Podcast Summary

Podcast: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode: 838 | In Christ I Can, Part 78
Date: September 17, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Overview of the Episode

This episode of Jesus the Healer features Nancy Dufresne’s continuing series “In Christ I Can,” focusing on the transformative power of renewing the mind, the importance of agreeing with God’s Word, and learning to speak and live as those who are “in Christ.” Using biblical examples and practical teachings, Nancy emphasizes how aligning thoughts and words with God’s promises allows believers to tap into the blessings and power that are already theirs in Christ.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Presence and Power of God for Healing (00:10–01:00)

• Nancy opens by affirming the ever-present power of God available for healing, no matter the circumstance.
  • “There’s enough power in every sick room and every hospital room to raise up that sick one… Power is present.” (00:10)

The Principle of Honoring the Word (01:00–03:30)

• Honoring God’s Word is essential for experiencing its benefits—being a doer, not just a hearer.
  • Jesus proclaimed, “Blessed are those who hear my words and do them,” underscoring that true blessing comes from acting on God’s Word, not just hearing it (01:45).
• Nancy reflects on her upbringing in a church that loved God but lacked teaching on healing, provision, and victory, highlighting how ignorance limited their experience of God’s power.

The Importance of Agreement and a Renewed Mind (03:30–07:30)

• Only the part of God’s Word we honor and agree with works for us.
• Nancy draws contrasts between a renewed and unrenewed mind:
  • “A renewed mind is a mind that agrees with the Word of God. An unrenewed mind is one that argues with the Word.” (04:40)
• Illustration: When the Israelites left Egypt, their bodies and needs were met, but their continued complaining (unrenewed thinking) hindered their inheritance.

Dangers of Complaining and the Language of Faith (07:30–12:30)

• Complaint reflects doubt and unbelief; gratitude is faith’s language.
  • “Complaint is the language of doubt and unbelief, but gratitude is the language of faith.” (09:45)
• The Israelites’ ingrained habit of complaining as slaves lingered after deliverance, preventing them from living in their promised blessings.
• Application: As believers, we must retrain ourselves to speak as those redeemed and blessed in Christ.

The Power of Speaking “In Christ” (12:30–16:30)

• Our words set the course of our experience in Christ—speaking fear, lack, or complaint aligns us with life outside of Christ.
• Nancy references Joshua and Caleb, who inherited God’s promises because their words agreed with Him.

Notable Story: Kenneth Copeland’s Testimony (16:00)

• Quote:
  • “In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.” (Kenneth Copeland, as recalled by Nancy; 16:20)
• God commanded Copeland to sow $50,000—a sum he didn’t possess in the natural, but Copeland agreed with God’s Word, responding by faith.

Agreement, Thoughts, and Words Open or Close Spiritual Doors (16:30–21:00)

• Our thinking and speaking are doors:
  • “Words we speak either open the door to God or close the door to God. Our words either open the door to the devil or close the door to the devil.” (18:40)
  • Right thinking grants God access; wrong thinking does the opposite.
• Hosea 4:6—People are destroyed for lack of knowledge; not partaking in Christ’s benefits stems from ignorance or unbelief.

Practical Examples and Biblical Illustrations (21:00–24:30)

• Story of Jesus feeding the 5,000: Jesus’ expectation was based on the Father’s power, not human resources.
  • Disciples initially acknowledged the available food but let doubt override faith.
• Lesson: What God asks often exceeds our resources, requiring trust in His sufficiency.

God as Provider, Not Merely Money or Human Resource (24:30–26:30)

• Israelites left Egypt with Egypt’s wealth but were led to a place (the wilderness) where money was useless, teaching dependence on God.
  • Quote:
    • “Never trust in anything that’s not big enough to deliver you. Money is never great enough to deliver you. In Christ, you have every resource fully provided for, and it’s just waiting for your faith to collect it.” (25:55)

Living and Speaking in Christ—Colossians 2 Emphasis (26:30–28:00)

• Nancy reads from Colossians 2:6–10 (Amplified Classic and Living Bible), focusing on the “in Him” reality:
  • Let your life overflow with joy and thanksgiving, not complaint.
• “No complaint in our mouths, only gratitude, because that’s the language of someone of faith.” (27:00)
• Trust God daily, and “let your roots grow down into Him and draw up nourishment from Him.” (from Colossians 2, paraphrased)

Cooperating with God’s Plan Through Agreement and Obedience (28:00–29:10)

• God’s plan is always great and requires His involvement.
  • “He gave you a plan that’s impossible for you to fulfill apart from Him.” (28:17)
• Agreeing with and responding to God—by thinking, speaking, and obeying—activates His power and fulfillment of His plan in your life.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... Power is present.” (00:10, Nancy Dufresne)
• “A renewed mind is a mind that agrees with the Word of God. An unrenewed mind is one that argues with the Word of God.” (04:40, Nancy Dufresne)
• “Complaint is the language of doubt and unbelief, but gratitude is the language of faith.” (09:45, Nancy Dufresne)
• “In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.” (Recounting Kenneth Copeland’s faith response, 16:20)
• “Words we speak either open the door to God or close the door to God. Our words either open the door to the devil or close the door to the devil.” (18:40, Nancy Dufresne)
• “Never trust in anything that’s not big enough to deliver you. Money is never great enough to deliver you.” (25:55, Nancy Dufresne)
• “No complaint in our mouths, only gratitude, because that’s the language of someone of faith.” (27:00, Nancy Dufresne)
• “He gave you a plan that’s impossible for you to fulfill apart from Him.” (28:17, Nancy Dufresne)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:10 — The power of God is present for healing
• 01:45 — Blessing of being doers, not hearers, of the Word
• 04:40 — Renewed vs. unrenewed mind
• 09:45 — Complaint vs. gratitude: faith language
• 16:20 — Kenneth Copeland’s “In Christ I have it” story
• 18:40 — Words as doors to God or the enemy
• 25:55 — God as provider, not money
• 27:00–28:00 — Colossians 2: fullness in Christ and gratitude
• 28:17 — God’s plan requires His involvement

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne’s message centers on the believer’s need to renew their mind, agree with the Word, and live and speak as someone who is truly “in Christ.” Through biblical examples, testimonies, and practical exhortation, she underscores that God’s power and provision are always available—but experiencing them requires faith, agreement, and gratitude, not complaint or doubt. Each listener is encouraged to regard God’s plan for their life as great, to depend on His sufficiency, and to let their words and thoughts continually reflect their new identity in Christ.