Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne

Episode 840 | In Christ I Can, Part 80

Date: September 19, 2025
Host/Teacher: Nancy Dufresne

Overview

This episode of Jesus the Healer continues Nancy Dufresne's extensive teaching series, "In Christ I Can," focusing on the believer's identity in Christ and the spiritual resources available to every Christian. Drawing from Scripture and practical examples, Nancy explores the importance of relying on the divine forces—the fruit of the Spirit—rather than human effort. She emphasizes how faith, love, peace, and God's presence empower believers to overcome obstacles, live victoriously, and walk in God’s highest plan.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. God’s Power is Immediately Present

• Opening Encouragement (00:10):
  Nancy assures listeners that “Enough power is present in every sick room and hospital room to raise up that sick one,” highlighting the immediacy and completeness of God’s healing power.
  • Quote: "Say I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now." (00:36)

2. The Word of God and the Highest Flow of Faith

• Nancy emphasizes giving the Word its "proper place" (00:52), noting that miracles come by aligning our thoughts and words with what God says.
• Highest faith focuses on our identity and inheritance in Christ, not on trying to obtain what is already given to us.

3. Anecdote: Maintaining Peace Amidst Crisis

• Nancy recounts a story of a minister facing massive financial pressure, who refused to lose peace over potential loss.
  • Quote: “Fine with me. I didn’t want it to begin with. And if God’s not big enough to put it over, let’s find out now.” (02:48)
• This demonstrates “operating in divine peace,” trusting God regardless of circumstances.

4. The Divine Forces: The Fruit of the Spirit

• Referencing Galatians 5:22, Nancy explains that the fruit of the Spirit—love, joy, peace, patience, etc.—are not just qualities, but “divine forces” deposited in every believer (06:10).
• Quote: “We have been redeemed from human forces of love, joy, and peace. Now we have the divine love of God, divine peace, divine joy…” (07:35)
• Human versions of these traits are inadequate; only the divine versions, accessed by the Spirit within, empower us to walk like Christ.

5. Walking in the Spirit

• “Walk” means daily living yielded to the Divine, not human, aspects of these fruits (08:50).
• Example: The minister who stayed in divine peace amid crisis succeeded because he didn’t revert to human anxiety.
• The enemy tries to draw us out of our position in Christ by stirring up circumstances, aiming to disrupt our faith by luring us into the "low level" of natural responses (11:40).

6. Faith Needs Divine Love, Peace, and Joy

• Divine faith "won’t work right" unless joined to divine love and other fruits, not mere human versions (13:10).
  • Quote: “There is a faith of God that’s on the inside of you that can only be fueled by the love of God.” (13:55)
• The fruit of the Spirit enables effective “business with heaven”—prayer, healing, and fulfilling God’s purpose on earth.

7. Expectations on Believers

• God expects more from believers because they have access to these divine forces; they are not meant to live as the world does (15:05).
• Walking in Christ means the old, “flesh” patterns are “off-limits”; we’re called to a higher standard (17:05).

8. Freedom from Habits and Addictions

• The “fruit of temperance” (self-control) is divine restraint, far stronger than human discipline (18:00).
  • Quote: “On the inside of you is all the forces you need to walk free of any addiction… it’s called the fruit of temperance.” (18:44)
• Nancy encourages speaking and yielding to these divine forces: “On the inside of me is the patience of God. On the inside of me is the peace of God. And I draw on that. I yield to that.” (20:25)

9. God’s Presence: Our Ultimate Resource

• Isaiah 40:31 is presented as a foundational promise:
  • “They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength…” (21:01)
• “Waiting on the Lord” means enjoying the ever-present fellowship and presence of God (21:38).
  • Quote: “There’s never a time God’s not present in you. He will never leave you or forsake you, even when you miss it, even when you go a wrong direction.” (22:19)
• Divine strength, revelation, and impartation come simply by “spending time with Him” (22:43).
• Nancy notes that, in Christ, God’s presence is not something external to be sought, but an internal reality.

10. Living on Divine, Not Human, Strength

• There is an “exchange” from human strength to divine strength through time in God’s presence—believers walk and run without becoming weary (24:03).
• Nancy calls listeners to "live as rich as we are" in Christ, drawing continually from this wealth of spiritual resources.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Immediate Access to Healing Power:
  • “Power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what’s not. Try to get something, but notice that he’s already made it yours.” (00:15)
• On Divine Peace During Crisis:
  • “Fine with me. I didn’t want it to begin with. And if God's not big enough to put it over, let's find it out now.” (02:48)
• On the Fruit of the Spirit:
  • “These are divine forces... they will help us finish our race.” (06:40)
  • “We have been redeemed from human forces of love, joy and peace. Now we have the divine love of God, divine peace, divine joy…” (07:35)
• On Divine Self-Restraint:
  • “The fruit of temperance, that you have God’s own self restraint, self discipline.” (18:40)
• On God’s Presence:
  • “There’s never a time God’s not present in you.” (22:19)
  • “A divine exchange from the human to the divine. We’re no longer trying to conduct life on the level of the human, but we’re living at the level of the divine.” (23:30)
• On Strength from His Presence:
  • “They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength… They shall run and not be weary… walk and not faint.” (24:03)

Important Timestamps

• 00:10: Power present for healing; claiming divine power
• 02:48: Story of the minister’s peace in a financial crisis
• 06:10: Explanation of the fruit of the Spirit as divine forces
• 07:35: Difference between human and divine love, peace, joy
• 11:40: Enemy’s tactics to draw believers out of the divine flow
• 13:10: Importance of walking in divine, not human, qualities for faith to work
• 15:05: God’s higher expectations for believers
• 18:44: Overcoming habits/addictions by drawing on divine temperance
• 20:25: How to actively yield to the fruit of the Spirit
• 21:01–22:43: Teaching on Isaiah 40:31—renewing strength in God’s presence
• 23:30: Living by divine rather than human strength

Summary Takeaway

Nancy Dufresne’s teaching emphasizes that believers possess everything needed for victorious living—faith, love, peace, self-control, and most importantly, God’s presence—through their union with Christ. She calls listeners not to settle for human effort, but to draw on the rich, divine resources within, trusting God in every circumstance and letting His presence continually renew and empower their daily walk.

Closing Encouragement:
“Let us live as rich as we are. Jesus is the healer.”