← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work. Believe in what's present. Trying to get something. But notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today for Jesus the healer. And we're going to keep diving in the direction we've been going. We've been in this series 10 teaching on in Christ. I can. And it's. We just have to trust the Holy Ghost to help us articulate all that belongs to us in Christ. And really, we haven't. We've just scratched the surface, but we're really talking to us about the importance of seeing ourselves in Christ, answering based on in Christ and what that means. And it has been such a blessing to spend this time in this series. And I say go back and watch any previous episodes and not just watch them, rewatch them if you need to, because these things are dawning on our spirits, not just on our mind, but on our spirits. And when these things get established in our spirit, then we can spend them with great results. It's not just a mental comprehension, but it's our spirits laying hold of and these truths being established in our spirits. That's when we get results. And, you know, if someone says, pastor Nancy, you know, I'm endeavoring to stand on the Word, I'm doing the Word, and it just doesn't seem like it's working for me. Well, we have to take time to make the Word ours. We have to, if I could say this, build it into our spirits. Because we can't spend what we don't own. And we own it as it's established in us and becomes part of our spiritual foundation. You know, you need to have a foundation in your spirit of the truths of God. And as you build these truths into your spiritual foundation, they're spendable. They're right there. If I could say this at the tip of your tongue, because you've made yourself not just acquainted with them, but you become Skillful with these truths. So that's why we're on, what, episode 85, I think, on In Christ. I can. Because we're endeavoring to not just articulate these truths, but become. Become skillful with these, that they become the way we think automatically. You know, whenever. When I was 10 years old, I started taking piano lessons. And it was such a struggle early on to get the technique and the scales and the fingering and all that was such a labor. But once I stuck with it enough to get past the beginnings of it, it became a flow. It became second nature that I could do those. Those things of technique without much thought because they became ingrained in my muscle motion. You know, they became an automatic flow. It's the same thing with spiritual truths. Once we build these things into our spirit, it might be a really having to give particular attention at first, to be mindful of it, to respond based on these things. But if we'll practice doing that and give our attention to that, it will become part of our. Our spiritual foundation and it will become an automatic flow. Look at someone who plays sports, I mean, or someone with any kind of other skill that has to be developed at first. You have to really concentrate to make sure you're doing it the right way. Your form is right, and your handling of the ball, whether it's a football, a baseball, a soccer ball, a tennis ball, whatever it is, there's a right way to handle it. There's a right way to hold, a right way to. If I could, say, throw it, send it, kick it, there's a right way to it. And once you get those mechanics in place, you automatically have a muscle memory that goes to that, and it becomes a flow. Even so, we have to so establish in our thinking that it becomes a flow, that we automatically speak in Christ. I can do this. And we think in Christ. I already have this. And we respond based on in Christ instead of based on the old man, based on who we used to be. But now we're responding based on in Christ. Amen. And so I want us to look at this. We've been using Colossians chapter 2. This passage has been foundational scriptures that we've gone to in this series. And I want us to go back to it. Colossians chapter two and verse six. And I want to read out of the living Bible translation. You say you've read that again that before. Yes, I have, and I'm going to keep reading it because it's through repetition that we build things in us and, you know, can I tell you this, it's not what we're doing right that holds us back. It's not what we're doing right that trips us up. It's what we're doing wrong. And I would say this, most all of what we do wrong comes from wrong thinking. We've got to correct the way we think because that's going to govern the way we believe, the way we speak, and the way we respond. So I'm. I'm going back to these verses over and over again because I'm building into our thought life, but building into our spirits, the truths of these verses. So Colossians chapter 2 and verse 6. This is the living Bible translation. It says. And Paul is writing, he said, and now, just as you trusted Christ to save you, trust him too. For each day's problems, know this. For everyday problems, daily problems, we. We're to go to who we are in Christ. We don't just wait for emergencies. We don't wait for crisis. We don't wait for something to fall apart in our life before we start drawing on who we are in Christ. We are to draw on him every single day. Because then when the emergencies of life showed up, we already have skill of drawing on in Christ. And so he says, trust him too, for each day's problems. And then he tells us how we're going to do that. The next phrase. Live in vital union with Him. What's that mean? It's all about your fellowship with Him. Fellowship with him based on who you are in Him. Don't fellowship with him based on who you used to be, where you missed it, what you've done wrong. What's this mean? Don't live sin conscious. Live righteousness conscious because you're in Christ. Fellowship with God, meaning this. Don't go back to God. I'm sorry, I used to do this or I did this. I missed it here, I failed here. God doesn't want to fellowship on that basis. He doesn't want to fellowship on who you were outside of Christ. He wants to fellowship with you based on who he made you to be. So what's this mean? Don't go to him with words in your mouth that are apart from who you are in Christ. He doesn't want to fellowship with us based on a human level, based on a level, a level of condemnation of what the accuser the brethren fed us. God does not want us to take words to him in fellowship repeating what the accuser of the brethren told us. Does that make sense to you? The accuser of the brethren is going to remind you of where you missed it, what you've done wrong, where you failed, where you sinned, all your weaknesses, all your shortcomings. And then he stalks our. He wants to stock our thinking with that, wants to our words with that. And then when people go to fellowship with God, they talk out of that. God's not wanting to fellowship with that. Why? He cleansed that. He made us in Christ, he made us righteous. Let's not talk to him based on the old man. Let's fellowship with him based on who we are in Christ. And it pleases God when we say to him what we know he did in us and for us and is doing through us. Amen. Have you ever sat at dinner with somebody or just had conversations and they keep bringing up something that happened years ago and it's like, well, I call it riding the old dead horse. Get off that thing. That thing's not carrying you anywhere. And we're tired of hearing about that over and over and over. And I'm not saying that as a flow of unkindness, but there comes a point where you as a human get tired of hearing somebody else hash and rehash something that is old and of the past and is not pertinent anymore to someone who's a child of God. Well, if we get tired of it in our humanity, don't you think God would get tired of hearing us talk to him based on outside of Christ? He put us in Christ so our conversation could equal Him. He put us in Christ so we could talk to him on his level and not talk to him based on who we used to be. So when we talk about shame, when we talk about embarrassment, when we talk about a poor self image, we're not talking as one in Christ, we're talking as outside of Christ. And God invites us to a higher fellowship with Him. So he made us in Christ, he put us in Christ, and Christ is in us. So the way we are going to bring him into each day's problems is we are going to fellowship with him based on who we are in Christ. And then it's so easy to. To apply him, draw on him, acknowledge him when we're faced with daily situations and we sail past those situations. Can I tell you this? If we're struggling in life, we're doing it wrong. Now get that. If we're struggling in our daily life, we're doing it wrong. People think, well, the devil's problem. Devil's causing me problems. No, no, I will say this. He does try to cause problems. But he's not our problem. Jesus defeated him, spoiled principalities and powers and gave us dominion over Him. It's not the Devil leaving us alone that removes struggle. It's us taking our place in Christ that causes us to leave the flow of struggle. Why? Because in Christ there's no struggle. He's not struggling. And when I'm in Him, I'm not struggling. If I'm speaking, thinking, believing and acting as one in Christ, I just left the flow of struggle. Life is not to be a hardship. Will there come opposition? Yes. But to someone who knows who they are in Christ and goes to that place first, when they're faced with opposition, they sail over struggle easily. Now, let me put it to you this way. If someone has, let's say they. They live in a place where the terrain is very rough. They or they like going off roading, off roading, Going off the road, off the beaten path. And it's not smooth, it's rocky. There's great inclines, there's great obstacles in the road, deep dips. If you take a regular vehicle meant for a paved road, that vehicle is going to struggle if you take it off road. Why? It's not built to be off road. It's built to be on a paved road or just a dirt road that doesn't have all the obstacles. Outside of Christ, there is not the stuff to get past opposition. But in Christ there's more than enough victory, there's more than enough power, there's more than enough divine ability to take you past any opposition. Now, if someone lives in a place, like I said, where the terrain is rough, or maybe they just enjoy going to terrain where it's rough. They don't take a daily vehicle to do that. They don't take the family car. They like getting a truck that is built for off roading. It's built to climb. It's built to get over things. And somebody who enjoys doing that, they love going out and demonstrating what their powerful vehicle can conquer in that terrain. They look for obstacles to go over. They look for steep inclines to go up. They're looking for it. Why? Because it is an enjoyment to them to watch what their vehicle can perform. Right? Am I right? I'm right. Do I do that? No, I don't do that because that's not my niche. But I've seen people do that. And their vehicles are obviously different from my vehicle. When they pull up down the road by me and their truck is lifted and they got these big tires and they got this big engine. I know that thing has greater ability than my vehicle has. And I know that they can go places I can't. In Christ, you can go places others can't. In Christ, you can sail over obstacles that others would bump into and that would be their stopping place. Know this. Greater is he that's in you. Every obstacle that shows up, every opposition that shows up, every circumstance that shows up is completely beatable in Christ. It's completely easy to overcome. You will never put a strain on in Christ. You will never cause the engine of in Christ to struggle when it's going over a certain circumstance, an opposition. In fact, someone in Christ delights to demonstrate what Christ can do through them. Now, when my husband unexpectedly went home to be with the Lord in 2013, he had eight different projects that he had started that were unfinished. We had to complete those after his homegoing. He had been trying for five years to get those done because God had told him, get all of those completed. And he was working toward that. He was using his faith and he had gotten much of those advanced, but they weren't completed yet. And so I was handed these projects that I had to take the lead on and get these finished. Well, I knew this. I did not have the experience that my husband had in these business dealings. And I'm talking. They were big projects. They weren't small projects. Two of them were the completions of buildings. There were just a lot of things connected to these. Each project was connected to the other in the sense if I faltered on one, it would have a domino effect on all the others. And so God enabled us that within a year, every single one of those were completed and paid for. And I saw God because I knew this. I can't do this. I did not even try to go to my own human ability, my own human knowledge, my own human skill, because it wasn't there to be able to accomplish these projects. So I so threw myself wholeheartedly on the provision of God, what he could do through me. The ability of God. What does that mean? I relied on the Holy Ghost. Holy Ghost, I don't know how to do this, but you do. So I'm going to not listen to me. I'm going to listen to you. I'm not going to lean on me, I'm going to lean on you. And within a year, every one of them done, every one of them paid for, and I'm talking about several millions was paid for through that. It got me into such a flow that I saw God work miracle after miracle after Miracle. You know what happened? I became addicted to the miracle flow. I felt cheated if I did not have the drama of the supernatural manifesting that. I actually got a little bit disappointed when all eight of them were done because that meant that there was not the same demand on the miracle flow. But now God's given us more projects of our own and we are kick starting more miracle flows of our own, apart from the ones that finishing my husband's. But I will say this. There comes such a spiritual appetite for what only God can do when you start tapping into what he can do. And it creates such a momentum of faith in you and such a hunger that only he can satisfy with his movement, his doing, his miracle working power, that you're done living a common life. You're done just living like an average man in Christ breaks us out of the average in Christ gives us an elevated flow. It gives us, it brings us into the miracle flow. Because everything he does is above the natural. It brings us into the supernatural. Everything of him is supernatural. Everything of him is spiritual. And when you start speaking and responding and thinking and believing in line with who you are in him and what he can accomplish through you, because that's what in him means, what he can accomplish through you, all you are is the glove that he's the hand in the glove giving all the movement. And my goodness, when that hand is so skillful working through you, him in you is so skillful, so endowed with ability and strength and might and power. It makes the glove look so good. And the glove did nothing but allow the hand within it to have movement. That's what we are. We are simply allowing him in us to do all the work. We just agree and we don't kick against and move against him, but we cooperate with him and he does the work through us. Now going back to this off road vehicle, someone who has an off road vehicle, they get addicted to going to those places to demonstrate what their vehicle can perform. They just, they look for opportunities to go off road. They are no longer content to ride down a paved straight road. To them, there's an adrenaline rush that only happens off road. I want you to know there is a faith rush that only happens in Christ. There is a faith flow that only happens in him. And it will not leave you to live the old man life. There's no miracles in the old man. There is no. There's nothing but struggle in the old man. There's nothing but harassment, fear, doubt in the old man. There's nothing but lack and symptoms and Sickness in the old man. But in Christ is no pain, no disease, no sickness, complete provision, miracles. And there is overcoming momentum to where opposition and struggles are hardly even noticed because the thrust of in Christ gives you such power that you go, was that a bump? I don't know because I'm moving on past it so quick. I love what. I love what Kathryn Kuhlman used to make this statement. She was a woman that had a healing anointing on her life. And in the 60s and 70s, her ministry was on the forefront. And there was great opposition that came for different reasons that came against the healing ministry, came against different aspects of her ministry. But I love what she said. She said, this train is moving too fast to stop it, to throw rocks at barking dogs. What's that mean? That opposition, circumstances. The devil sends your way, tries to bark and tries to get you to stop. Boy, you do just go past it. That's what in Christ does. It puts you past it. So the opposition is not your stopping place. You don't stop and get impressed with what is trying to oppose you. You hardly even notice because this in Christ flow is moving so fast and moving so power and moving so full of divine ability and miracle power that you do not. You have no interest in the old man anymore. You have no interest in what circumstances are trying to throw at you. What opposition is threatening you with. I'm not even interested in it. I love something that one preacher said. And he is a man who. His ministry is really one of the largest churches in the world. And he has a Bible school, he has a university. He has so many astronauts of his ministry. And one of his Bible school students said to him, he said, pastor, he said, because you're on the forefront of what God is doing through you. He said, you must have had. You must have a lot of opposition that comes against you. Now. Listen to the skill of this man's answer. He said, yeah, I guess I have. I just haven't noticed. What's this mean? When you're in Christ, you choose. When you're in Christ, you're authorized to have your attention on something that will not deliver you to a place of struggle. What's this mean? In Christ, you're authorized to never notice the devil again. In Christ, you're authorized to never be occupied with what the devil's doing in Christ. You are authorized to never repeat what the devil said to you. Get that one? In Christ, you are authorized to never repeat what the devil said to you. Why? Because you are so far above it. We are Raised and seated with Christ, far above all principality and power. What's that mean? We're not talking low talk. What's low talk? What the devil said. What's low talk? The thoughts of fear, the threats of fear. What symptoms tell you, what pain tells you. All that's low talk. We are authorized to never articulate it again because we are in Christ and our speech is in Christ. In Christ I'm whole. In Christ, I have no symptoms. In Christ, I have no pain. In Christ, I have no lack. In Christ, I have no depression. In Christ, I have no fear, I have no doubts. Why? Because none of that abides in him and I abide in Him. And so we have to draw a line and say what's in Christ is the only thing I partake of. Everything that is past that line, that's behind that line, I'm not going to put. I'm not going to give any attention to that which is not in the territory or in the realm of in Christ. I have no business participating with anything except what Christ made mine. And this is where we have to automatically go to that in our thinking. Will the devil oppose? Sure he will, but who cares? You are far superior in Christ to any opposition that you don't even notice when the devil's opposing. Now, can I tell you this? Somebody asked me several years ago in an interview. They said, pastor Nancy, what was your darkest day? And I knew that they were expecting my answer to be when my husband went home to be with the Lord. I said, well, the greatest tragedy of my life is when my husband died unexpectedly. But that was not my darkest day. And let me explain it to you this way. My darkest day was when I didn't know who I was in Christ because everything was hard then. But even when my husband went home to be with the Lord, I knew who I was in Christ. And so it could not be dark for my life. I did not go into depression. I did not go into grief and sorrow because I knew too much to know that's not my flow. Christ has offered me a higher flow. And I dismissed and refused and declined to go into the lower flow. Not because I'm something special, but because he made me available to something greater than what that circumstance offered me. I want you to know no day ever has to be dark for you again, no matter what happens in that day. Because the light of who you are in Christ sets you above it all. And know this, there will be people who will enter your life. There will be people who exit your life. But in Christ is your life. And you never have to go to a dark place, a dark day again in your life. Amen. Well, I want you to know, the reason we're able to come and talk to you, minister the word to you and bring these truths to you is for one reason. Kenneth and Gloria Copeland have had the faith to say, we're going to sow this airtime into the programmers that are on the Victory channel. It's such a large gift that Brother Copeland has offered to the programmers. We don't pay for any of the airtime. And what a gift that is. And because of that, Brother Copeland is sowing into every single viewer because he sowed this time to us, this time we spent with you. That's his. His seed into your life. Not mine. His seed into your life. So I'm going to ask you something. I'm going to ask you, if you're not already a partner with Kenneth Copeland Ministries, become a partner. And I'm not even going to say pray about it, because if you're fed by it, there's no prayer that's needed. If you are receiving we, it's an. It's a flow of honor to honor what we've received by funding what we've received. So I invite you become a partner with Kenneth Copeland Ministries. And you say, well, why don't you receive partnership for yourself? Because that won't help me stay on this channel. Being on this channel is by Kenneth Copeland. I want him funded. I want his partnership to increase and be blessed because I'm interested in his vision and helping him fulfill that, and that's by feeding you. And so I say become a partner with KCM. You can go to Brother Copeland's website@kcm.org and you can sign up to become a partner today. That's right. That's appropriate. And until next time, remember this. Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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