← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now from the.
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Top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet.
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The soles of my feet.
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Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the Healer. And we are continuing on this series called In Christ I Can. Because listen, when we know who we are in Christ and that becomes deeply rooted in us and we begin to live our lives in line with that revelation that brings us into the highest order of faith. And you will no longer struggle with this flow of faith when you know who you are in Christ, who he is in you, how rich he has already made you. Listen, everything God planned for your life, he put in Christ. And then he put Christ in you. And he put you in Christ so that you have free access to everything that is in Him. So we're discovering what's in him. Because it doesn't matter that all of these things are our present possession if we're not partaking of it. And how do we partake of it? By faith. Who we are in Christ will not flow automatically. We have to join our faith to these truths so that we can receive. And they become a flow of our everyday life through that channel, that of faith. So this is why we're delighted that we're able to take this time to share with you on who we are in Christ. Because when we realize that, when we live in line with that, that's the end of struggle in our life. We invite you go back and watch the previous episode because we began teaching along a direction. I'm going to. I'm going to title just these episodes that still in Christ I can. But we're going to talk about devils are afraid of us instead of us being afraid of devils. And I'm not taught. I'm not teaching this to make us devil conscious. I'm teaching this to make us victory conscious that we have been raised to a seat of total victory and so many people are living their Lives, afraid of the devil, afraid of sickness, afraid of lack, afraid of the enemy, afraid of opposition, afraid of not getting this, afraid of not getting that, afraid of depression. And we have no business, because we're in Christ of being afraid of our enemy, because Jesus has, has completely defeated him and has made us master. And we are to live as one that is far above. So I want us to go back and read something that we were starting with on the previous episode. We were reading Ephesians chapter one in verse 20, and this is the King James translation. And I'm going to just start reading partway through verse 20 because if I go back too far, I'm going to end up preaching all of that. And I want to move along and streamline where we're headed today. But there In Ephesians chapter 1, verse 20, it says that God raised Jesus from the dead and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places far. Look at this far above. And then he starts listening. Demon powers, far above all principality, far above all power, far above all might, Far above all dominion, far above every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come. Notice, not barely above, far above. Jesus was raised above these. Amen. What's that mean? No opposition, no opponent is a close second. They are far less than this greater one that's on the inside of us. The power of the enemy is far less than God's power. Not just barely less. There is not a neck and neck operation of these things. They are not the enemy. The enemy's power is so far less. In fact, I believe it's in the book of Isaiah that says that when we see Satan narrowly as he is, that humanity will say, is this the one that deceived the nations? Because he boasts himself to be so much more than he is. But the greater one is in us. And I could say this, the far greater one is in us. But then I want you to also look at Ephesians chapter 2 in verse 4 again. This is the King James translation. It says, but God, who is rich in mercy for his great love, wherewith he loved us even when we were dead in sins, he has quickened us together with Christ. What's that mean? He's made us alive together with Christ. What's that mean? We too have been raised and seated far above all principality, far above all might, far above all dominion, far above every opposition in this world. When we, when Christ was raised, we were raised with Him. When Christ was seated in that seat of authority that Seat of dominion. We were seated with him. So we are not in a hand to hand combat with the enemy. We are, we are ruling and reigning from a position that Christ won for us. So notice this. Jesus has made us master over the enemy because Jesus defeated him in our behalf, then turned around and handed us the victory. Do not think of yourself as one who has to win out against the devil. That got to hold out against the devil, he's got to hold out against you. You have been put in a far above position. You have been put in the seat of authority, the seat of dominion over every opposition that comes. And people say, well, if I'm so far above, how come I'm struggling so much with him? Because many don't see themselves as far above. And the way you see yourself is the way you will function. It's the way you'll operate. It's the way you respond. And if you think that you have to get in a low level combat, then that's where you will operate. But if you'll realize, wait a minute, in the face of opposition, this is a defeated foe. He is, he has been completely stripped and defeated by Jesus, my master. And Jesus brought me into the same mastery over the devil. And so when you think that he's a, he's, if I could say this, a threat to you, then you're going to treat him like that. And that's why he's able to work the way he does against so many Christians is because of. They think him too great, they think him too strong, they think him too powerful. But I want you to know, far greater is the one that's on the inside of us. Amen. And we were reading this out of Colossians chapter 2 in verse 10, and it says the last phrase of Colossians 2, verse 10 says, God is the highest ruler. He is the highest authority, meaning every other one is a lesser. And we are to, we are to let that those roots go down deep into us of who we are in Christ. Who are we in Christ? We are seated far above all these things. That's who we are in Christ. That's our position in Christ. That's our place of dominion in Christ. And we are to pray the devil with our absolute authority and dominion over him. Amen. You know, in raising our two sons, my husband and I never struggled to be in authority. I mean we, we never got up and said, boy, I hope my, my parental authority works today. Oh no, we work in this every day. We're working this. And if the children tried to get out of line. We did not stop, struggle to take our place of authority. We were. We were seated as parental authority that gave us. We dealt with our children exactly the way we should have. We did not ask them for permission. We did not beg them to obey us. We operated in our authority and because of that, that our children are serving alongside with us in ministry. Because we were authorized to hold our family in the plan of God. And anytime something came, tried to challenge the plan of God against our family, as parents, as the. As the leading voices in that family of authority, we kept everything off of our family. We kept it out of our home. Because this home, as for me and my houses, Joshua said, as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. I didn't ask my children, do you want to go to church? I didn't ask them, do you want to go to school? Why would I ask them if they want to go to church? I didn't ask him, do you want to clean your room? Do you want to obey me? I didn't ask them, do you want to? So when it came to spiritual things, I didn't ask them, do you want to. We. As for me and my house, we made the decisions in line with the Word and we will serve the Lord well. See, we operated in our home without struggling to be parentally in charge. We knew we were in charge in the same way in Christ, he has put us in charge. We have authority. And I'm not struggling to function as one in Christ. I'm not struggling to rule and reign over the devil. That's my place. Far above. That's your place. Far above all opposition, far above sickness, far above lack, far above depression. The reason many people struggle with these things is because they see them, these oppositions, as equal. They're not equal. They're lesser. They're far lesser. And we're far above. You have to build that truth in you. Because when you plant the seed of the Word that tells you you're far above in you, it takes for you to plant it. You have to water it so it can grow and become a revelation that you're spending in your everyday life. Amen. To get a harvest on that, you have to plant it. You have to put the truth of the Word in you about who you are in Christ. And so we see this, that Jesus has made us master. And really, in all honesty, we are authorized to live as though we have no enemy because our enemy is already defeated. We are not trying to break through and get victory. Jesus is the Victor, he turned around and handed us the victory. We are not trying to get these things. We are not facing the Devil with the mindset. I'm trying to get past him. No, no, no. I'm already past him. I'm above him. I am far above him. You are seated far above him. And we have to start keeping him in his place. And by us taking our place, when we don't take our place, the Devil tries to dupe us with thinking that he is greater than he is now. We are to live completely unafraid. We are to live completely undaunted by anything, any threat, anything that we would see in this realm, because our position of authority stems from a higher realm, and that higher realm is superior to this realm. This realm is subject to the authority that belongs to us in Christ. We are to live completely unafraid. We're to live undaunted. We're to live unintimidated. We're to be unmoved, and we are to be unimpressed by opposition. But so many people get impressed with what they feel. They get impressed by what they see of the enemy. They get impressed by what he threatens them with. But we are to be completely unimpressed. And I know in pastoring over years, people would come and they would say, pastor Nancy, the Devil said this, or the devil showed me this, or I had this dream, or the devil's working this. And you could see that they would be intimidated by that, and they would come to me, pray with me. Maybe I don't need to pray with you about that. I just need. I need for you to understand. You're already far above that. But if we're impressed by something, even in a negative direction, we'll fear it. I'm not impressed by him. I mean, one of the absolute best demonstrations of that. One of my favorite stories is Smith Wigglesworth, an English preacher who was on the forefront in the first half of the 1900s. And he was in bed one night, asleep, and he sensed an evil presence in the room. You know, just because you can sense evil in the room doesn't mean you're evil. It doesn't mean that your faith isn't working. It doesn't mean the word isn't working just because you sense it. You know, sometimes when I lay in bed and I'll have the air conditioner going at night, and I hear that air conditioner come on, I don't think, well, I'm an air conditioner just because I feel, no, I'm not. The air conditioner Just because I'm in the room where it came on. Well, even so. Just because when fear comes in the room, Satan comes in the room. I'm not fearful just because fear came in the room. That's his, that's not mine. And listen, you're going to sense the presence of the devil. You're going to sense opposition. So what I mean In Psalm chapter 23, verse 5 says, Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of my enemies. The enemy's present. So what? The table is also present. We stay at the table of our redemption, the table of our provision. And we just partake of what's on the table because anything else in the room doesn't belong to us. God has already set something in the room so that we won't be. So that we won't be impressed by the evil that's in the room. The devil has permission to be in this earth for. For a time period. His time. His time slot is running out. But even so, we can feel him. So what? That we feel him. We only feel him because he's present. We don't feel him because he's greater. And just because we feel him doesn't make him great. Amen. Greater is he that's in us. Whether we sense the greater one or not, he's still in us. And so we believe what God's word says, even in the face of what we feel. So Smith Wigglesworth was asleep. He sensed an evil presence in the room. Because the devil can't come in without you feeling fear. Because he's a tormented being. Don't you. Don't you doubt it. The devil is tormented by his own fear. He is tormented by the choices he has made. And he, when he comes in, you will sense his torment. That's his fear. That's his torment. Leave it with him. I don't care that your body can sense it. It's not yours. My body. Right now we're in the studio, I can feel the air conditioner that's going in this studio right now. But I don't think that I became the air. I don't think I became the air conditioning just because I can feel it. I don't think I'm fearful just because I feel fear in the room. It's not mine. You have to know. Anything that Jesus did not purchase for you, it's not yours. Anything that belongs to the devil, it's not yours. Anything that God purchased for you, that's yours. But if it came from the devil, it's not Yours. When you feel symptoms, say, that's not mine. I don't care that my body feels it. That's not mine. You have to know what's yours and what isn't. And just feeling it doesn't make it yours. Just hearing it doesn't make it yours. Yours. Just because you can see circumstances doesn't make them yours. You have to resist what did not come out of the household of faith. We are of the household of faith. The Bible tells us that we have been delivered from the kingdom of darkness, translated into the kingdom of his dear son. Now let me tell you what that resistance looks like. Years ago, there was a woman. She was born blind, and she went in her 50s. She attended the healing crusade of an evangelist during the 1950s, the healing revival that was on in America. She was in one of those services and the evangelist ministered to her. And her eyesight came back. She had never even seen her entire life. So over 50 years of blindness, and now she can see for the first time. After a short time, her eyes started losing keenness and that blindness started trying to come back. And every day she said, no, you don't. That blindness is not mine. And I'm telling you, her eyes went not just from being foggy, they went back to complete blindness. And for the next three weeks, she went back to totally blind. But every day she said, that blindness isn't mine. Jesus redeemed me. That's not mine. See, just because she could. Just because she could feel it, just because it became something tangible to her, she didn't believe it was hers. So for the next three weeks, although that blindness tried to come back, because know this, the way the Devil gets people back into bondages is he launches a counter attack. The counter attack does not mean you lost your healing. It means he's still trying to steal your healing or something, steal your provision, steal your peace, whatever it is he's attacking you in. So for the next three weeks, every day, she said, thank God I still see. Thank God I have perfect vision. Thank God I have perfect. I have perfect sight. That blindness is not mine. It does not belong to me. And after three weeks, her eyesight came back and she never lost it again. The devil was challenging her. Just because the devil is challenging any victory that you have received from Jesus does not mean that that challenge means that the word isn't working, that your faith isn't working, or that that that opposition belongs to you now. No, it doesn't. You just stand your ground and say, that's not mine. I Don't care how long it persists. You say that's not mine. Listen. The Word tells us faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. We could say it this way. Faith comes by hearing and hearing. What's that mean? Repetition. The more we hear it. Because as I've said in the past, my dad was a cotton and wheat farmer. He would sow the seed, but every day he would see to it that that seed was tended to. Whether it was watered, whether it was fertilized, whether he was getting pesticides, pest off of it, whether he was spraying pesticides, whether he was getting the weeds out of that crop. He tended to that seed every day. We have to tend to the seed of the Word every single day so that something doesn't rob it from us. So the devil. Anytime you receive something from God, the devil is busy trying to get it from you. But he can't get it from you. If you'll recognize those symptoms aren't mine, that lack isn't mine, that depression isn't mine. I don't care how long it tries to come and stay. I don't care.
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Because see, the devil can't create anything. He can only imitate how God operates. There's nothing creative in the devil. There's only destruction in him. Not. Not something creative. So what does he do? He tries to imitate how God works. How does God work? Faith comes by hearing and hearing. Faith works by repetition. Well, also the devil opposes by repetition. So he will send symptoms and then if you will resist them, the devil will try to send them again and send them again and send them again. But we just operate by faith and we stand our ground. And know this repetition of the enemy's attack does not make it true. You have to remember that, because the devil will say something to you. He'll suggest something to your mind. Let's say, for example, he tells you you're going to lose your home. You're going to lose your home. And he'll say it to you over and over or your business is going to fail. He'll say it to you over and over. Repetition doesn't make it true. And I don't care how many times you hear it. I don't care how many times he suggests something. Repetition doesn't make it true. So I don't care what he's saying to you, don't believe it just because he said it. You be repetitious in the. In the flow of God's word, in the face of the repetition of attack. Because you are dealing with something that's life giving. You're dealing with something that's far above what the enemy is trying to repeat against your life. So this woman who was blind, what did she do? She employed repetition. When the devil employed repetition, she employed the repetition of her victory. She would state it, she would use her faith every day. She was repeating her faith, she was repeating the words of God and she was holding repetition. That's of the flow of God in the face of the flow of the devil. And the devil could not outlast it. I want you to know you are far above your healing is far above those symptoms. Your provision and your prosperity is far above that lack of your peace is far above that troubling of the mind, that depression. Everything that belongs to you in Christ is so far above what the devil would try to launch against you. And you don't have to try to get the victory. It's already yours. Just speak it. I don't care how many times you say it. Jesus said this. He shall have whatsoever he saith. Know this. The more you say it, the more you have it. The less you say it, the less you have it. So the more we say that we are Satan's master, the more we say that this, this opposition cannot work against us. It'll. It'll float and operate just to the measure of our saying. So we are to always say in the face of opposition, I'm your master. I am, I'm seated far above you. You cannot stay. You cannot live in my home. You cannot live in my body. You cannot live in my finances. You have to say it because the repetition is how you sow that seed in your heart. It's how you water it and it's how you arrive at a full harvest of what that word will produce in you. Amen. So we know this, that we are to be unafraid. So Smith Wigglesworth, when he was laying in that bed that night and he was awakened because he could sense fear in the room. You know, just because you can feel it doesn't make it yours. So he could sense the fear in the room. He rolled over on his bed and when he did, he saw Satan sitting in manifested form on the edge of his bed. And he did not enter into a fight, he did not enter into a combat with him. He did not get into fear. You know what he did? He said, oh, it's just you. What's that mean? He took him back down to his size. He was trying to appear large, feel large by that sense. Of fear. And because Smith Wigglesworth was completely unintimidated, completely unimpressed, that then the devil had absolutely no access, he had no entrance to work against him in that setting. So what was it? How we approach the devil is the place we're giving him in our life. If we talk about him, oh, the devil's doing this and the devil's doing that, and we treat him large, then we're giving him a large place. But if we will keep him in his defeated position, if we will think of him as a completely and utterly defeated foe, that's exactly where we're holding him in. Because in Christ, the Devil is no match for Christ. Because when he touches us, he just touched Christ. Now, if we're going to think of ourselves as outside of Christ, if we're going to try to win something on our own, if we're going to try to go back to the reasoning arena, the mental arena, we just stepped outside of Christ in the sense of how we're thinking. So we don't. We want to say in Christ, the devil can't whip me. Why? Because I'm far above in Christ. I'm far above sickness, I'm far above lack. I'm far above depression, I'm far above any opposition. I'm far above the threats and the suggestions of the enemy. I am inaccessible to him because I am so far above him. But if people think I've got to get past him, I've got to break through. Jesus already broke through. He already gave you the breakthrough. That's why we don't need to get the breakthrough. Jesus already broke us through. But we, as we stand our ground, we're enforcing the breakthrough Jesus already won for us. We're enforcing the victory that he already made ours. People are. I know people mean. I'm trying to get on the other side of this test. Listen, Jesus already put you on the other side. He put you far above. It's us thinking wrong and giving credibility to our enemy. Giving credit, giving, if I could say this, giving sway to him. Meaning we kind of. We kind of go with what he suggests. No, I'm against everything he suggests. If he suggests, I'm failing. I know this. I've already got the victory. We cannot leave our victory territory to come down to a low flow because the devil is far lesser and the greater one in us is far greater. And we've been raised and seated with him. Amen. Well, there's so much more that we're going to teach on this. And until next time, you don't want to miss it. But until next time, remember this Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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To watch or listen to today's message and other messages by Nancy Dufresne, visit dufresneministries.org In Nancy Dufresne's book Faith in the Power of God, she teaches how God wants us to know his power that is in our direction. It belongs to us. He has made his power ours. Whether or not power flows depends on us, not God. God intends that every need we face be met with his power. We cannot live the life God authored for us without his power. Order this book now@DefrainMinistries.org make plans to join us at World Harvest church in Marietta, California for our Holy Ghost Meetings 2026. From January 11th through the 15th, services will be Sunday through Thursday at 10am and 7pm for more information and to register for in person attendance, please visit our website@DefrainMinistries.org. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at Defense to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible. Nancy Dufresne is the President of World Harvest Bible Training center in Murrieta, California. This is a Word and Spirit Bible school where you will receive impartations and revelation. So whether you're called to the five fold ministry or want to bring a greater supply to your local church, this could be the school for you. We're now accepting applications. Go to whbtc.org for more information.
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We're excited to announce a new worship album called in youn Glory by Grant Dufresne. For more ways to listen to in youn Glory, scan the QR code on your screen.
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Your presence is my reward. Your glory is your power.
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I want you to know that every single person in this world needs a Savior. And the greatest thing of all is that we have one. But this Savior must be welcomed. This Savior must be received. And it's so easy to receive Jesus as the Savior. The Word says that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now do that with me. Say Jesus, I receive you as my Savior. Come into my heart and be the Lord of my life and I'll live for you all the days of my life. God bless you.