Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast Episode 888 | In Christ I Can, Part 128 Date: November 26, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode of "Jesus the Healer," Nancy Dufresne continues her teaching series "In Christ I Can," focusing on the believer's authority in Christ, how to maintain victory over opposition (especially spiritual opposition), and the importance of renewing the mind and submitting to God. Through practical examples and biblical teaching, Nancy urges listeners to recognize and enforce their victory in Christ—not by struggling for what has already been won, but by skillfully walking in their God-given authority.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power and Presence of God’s Healing (00:10–00:46)

• Nancy begins by affirming that God's power is present for healing in every place, including sick rooms and hospitals.
• Encourages listeners to personally receive God's healing power:

  “Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.” (00:34, Nancy Dufresne)

2. Our Authority in Christ—Ephesians 1 & 2 (00:52–05:10)

• Focus on Ephesians 1:20–21, where Jesus is seated "far above all principality, power, might and dominion."
• Emphasizes believers are also seated with Christ, sharing in this authority:

  "We are not afraid of demon powers. They are afraid of us. We're far above them." (03:45, Nancy Dufresne)

• Explains the difference between fighting for victory (unnecessary) and enforcing victory (required).

3. Maintaining Victory: Renewing the Mind and Exercising Authority (05:11–09:00)

• Discusses the importance of mind renewal, so we actively enjoy the victory Christ has secured.
• Believers are not fighting the devil directly but are to enforce the devil's defeat through their authority.
• Practical application: When opposition comes, declare, "No, you don’t!"—defend your victory, health, prosperity, peace, and joy.

4. Preventing the Devil’s Influence—Ephesians 4:27 (09:01–10:20)

• The devil only gains ground if given a place; this happens by ignorance, wrong thinking, lack of authority, or walking out of love.

  “If you gave him that place, you can take back that place you gave him.” (10:10, Nancy Dufresne)

• Encouragement that no defeat is permanent—believers can reclaim lost ground.

5. The Prerequisite of Submission—James 4:7 (10:21–16:15)

• Authority is exercised effectively only when submitted to God:

  “When I submit to His authority, then the devil submits to my authority.” (14:27)

• Rebellion to God hinders the believer’s capacity to resist the devil.
• Emphasizes that submission is not just a theological idea, but a practical route to safety and effectiveness.

Memorable Story (14:50–16:00)

• Nancy shares advice from Kenneth E. Hagin about regularly evaluating one’s life and ministry for obedience and accuracy with God’s instructions.

6. Spiritual Order and Its Effects—Lessons from Experience (16:16–19:55)

• Real-life illustrations:
  • Parental and spiritual authority—if a parent fails to exercise authority, children or others may rebel.
  • When believers sow rebellion (e.g., by leaving a spiritual mentor out of offense), they can reap rebellion in their own families.

  “You’ve broken something that God put in place...” (18:37)

• The spiritual principle: Being out of order affects the ability to enforce spiritual authority.

7. Submission, Resistance & Personal Inventory (19:56–24:05)

• Nancy underscores that if resisting the devil seems ineffective, check for alignment with God (submission).
• Differentiates between submission and resistance. Both are needed:

  “Submitting to God is not going to get rid of the devil. We have to stand up and resist.” (21:31)

• References several translations of James 4:7 to highlight the certainty that the devil will flee from a submitted believer.

8. Refusing Wrongdoing & Not Entertaining Sin (24:06–26:12)

• True resistance includes refusing even the beginnings of wrongdoing.
• Warns against "living on the edge" of sin, highlighting the danger of being pushed into full disobedience.

  “When you love God, you get as far away as you can from wrongdoing. You don’t get as close as you can to it.” (25:30)

• The necessity of choosing to hate what God calls wrong.

Memorable Quotes

• “If God says it’s wrong, I call it wrong. And if God calls it wrong, I hate it.” (25:57)

9. Freedom in Christ—Personal Discipline (26:13–26:58)

• Shares Kenneth Hagin’s story about quitting soda to avoid even the hint of a controlling habit, illustrating a lifestyle free from any form of bondage.

  “I won’t let my body be in bondage under anything but submissiveness to God.” (26:53, referencing Kenneth Hagin’s attitude)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Believers’ Authority:

  “We are not fighting the devil. We are occupying the victory that Jesus won for us.” (04:01)

• On Submission and Authority:

  “If I’m in rebellion to God and not doing what He says in His Word, then I am in no position to stop the Devil’s rebellion against me.” (14:39)

• On Taking Back Lost Ground:

  “If you gave him that place, you can take back that place you gave him. Because what you gave him, he doesn’t have to continually have. You can take it back because it’s still yours, no matter who’s holding it.” (10:10)

• On Walking in Line with the Word:

  “You have to choose to hate anything that’s in violation of God because you love God too much to entertain something that’s in violation of Him.” (26:01)

• On Cutting off Habits:

  “I won’t let my body be into bondage under anything but submissiveness to God.” (26:53)

Important Timestamps

• 00:10 – Opening declaration of healing power for listeners
• 00:52–05:10 – Explanation of authority in Christ (Ephesians 1–2)
• 09:01–10:20 – How the devil gains a foothold and how to reclaim lost ground
• 10:21–16:15 – Importance of submission to God (James 4:7) and personal stories
• 16:16–19:55 – Spiritual authority, consequences of stepping out of order (family/mentoring anecdotes)
• 21:31–22:35 – Clarification of submission and resistance as dual requirements
• 24:06–26:12 – How to radically refuse wrong and maintain spiritual freedom
• 26:13–26:58 – Personal discipline story (Kenneth Hagin—soda story)

Tone and Style

Nancy’s tone throughout is direct, warm, and encouraging—full of practical wisdom, biblical references, and personal stories. She doesn’t shy away from challenging listeners but always points to the grace and hope found in Christ and the ongoing process of walking in victory.

Summary Statement

This episode is a deep dive into the reality of the believer’s authority in Christ, the necessity of mind renewal, the spiritual principle of submission before resistance, and the practical steps toward living in freedom from anything that would bind. Nancy Dufresne calls listeners to a higher standard of accountability, obedience, and mastery—encouraging all to reclaim every area where the enemy may have gained ground, and to walk out daily the victory already secured through Jesus.