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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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Top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet.
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Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today for Jesus the healer. Thank you for taking the time to sit and feed with us on the Word. And I want you to know it's one of the greatest joys and privileges that I have of bringing the Word to you. And we so enjoy our time. So thank you for your hunger for the Word of God. And I tell you, God's people are the best people. And I am so grateful that we are all just moving along in the plan of God in these last and final days. I mean, aren't they exciting days? And we're alive for it, and we're going to be right in the middle of what God is doing. And so we're learning together the things that belong to us in Christ. Because in this series, we've been well over. What is it now? Summer 120130130 episodes we're teaching on in Christ. I can. And when we started this series, we didn't realize that we would be going so long, but my goodness, it's so important because our identity in Christ is. Is the foundation of our redemption. And if we will understand that who he is in us, who we are in him, it redefines how we see ourselves, that we begin to see ourselves as God made us to be and how God sees us. And it really inoculates us against what the enemy would try to sow in us about our identity. Listen, our truest identity is who we are in Him. And we can never really know who God made us to be apart from knowing who he is in us and who we are in Him. It's not this natural realm that identifies us. It is who we are in Him. And I would say this. We are to live out of that place and that identity of who we are in Him. And that settles every self image problem. That settles every struggle with self. And know this, the devil is constantly trying to point us back to who we are apart from him. But our minds are renewed and we're not going to go to that place to try to live this life based on who we are apart from him. Because we'll never be apart from him again. He's in us. We are the temple of the Holy Ghost. Why? Because our spirit, the Holy Ghost indwells our spirit and our bodies house our spirit. And we are so grateful that we are the host of heaven and on the inside of us is the greater one. And we're finding out what that means for ourselves. You know, the Word tells us that in Ephesians chapter 1 and verse 20, verse 21 around in that passage it talks about that God raised Jesus from the dead and he seated him at his own right hand in heavenly places. Far above all principality, power, might and dominion. I want you to see this, that God raised Jesus from the dead and seated him at his own right hand in heavenly places. What do we know? The throne is occupied and the throne is occupied by the Father. And at his right hand the throne is occupied by Jesus. And he is the and we are the body. And we have been raised and seated with Christ. And so the same seat of authority that Jesus occupies we occupy when we see who Christ is in the earth, how he moved in the earth. Now we see how we are able to move in the earth because Jesus earthly life was an example and a picture of the man in Christ. This is how we are to live and this is the life that we are to produce. And I want you to know that Jesus moved through this earth in total communion and fellowship with the throne. And we move through this earth and we minister God's power and ability into this earth from our position at the throne. You say you mean you occupy a throne. We all occupy the same seat of authority that Jesus occupies because when he was raised from the dead, we were raised with Him. And when he was seated at the right hand of the Father, we were seated with Him. Why? Because where the head is, the body also is. And I want you to know we are to live our life from the throne. We are to move in this life from our position and our authority that the throne has given us. We are not just a mere man in the earth living like everyone else, but we are drawing our life, we're drawing our movement from that place that we have been raised and seated at. And what is that? That is far above all principality, power, might and dominion. We are love, children of a love father. And we are placed and raised and seated at the throne. Listen. We belong at the throne now. Think of that. We belong there not because of anything we've done, but because we were created in the image of God and we have been redeemed and born again. And what does it tell us in Hebrews, chapter 4, verse 16, come boldly to the throne of grace, that you may obtain grace to help in time. Mercy and grace to help in the time of need. Know this, that it says, come boldly to the throne. How can we come boldly to the throne? Because we're not coming to the throne based on our credentials, on our merits, but on who he made us to be. We are children of the throne. And every single one of God's children belong at the throne. That's where we need to be finding ourself at home. And I would say this, that number one, what that means for us is fellowship with the Father. Because we are in the presence of God. He abides in us. But we also belong in his presence at his location. When it says in Hebrews 4:16, come boldly to the throne of grace. Do you ever notice it never tells us when to leave? It only tells us to come. So what's that mean for us? We can find our place, our home, our welcome place, there at the throne. We belong there. And because we belong there, we never have to be in a hurry to leave there. And we can live our life from that place. How do we do that? We're mindful of who we are in Christ because it was us in him. That enables us to occupy the same seat of authority that Jesus occupies. We are joint heirs with him, is what the Word says. So everything that belongs to Jesus belongs to us. How many of you know he is our victory. He won. Our victory in that victory is victory over the for the spirit of man, the mind of man, the body of man, and the material things pertaining to our life. Victory is ours altogether because of what he provided for us. But if I could say this, the greatest thing Jesus won for us is fellowship with the Father. We belong at the throne. We're children of the throne. And the devil is constantly trying to accuse us with who we, how we look outside of Christ. What we did that was outside of Christ, what we used to be. But we are renewing our minds. And we are not allowing ourselves to go back to the past. Know this. The devil is trying to always remind us of the past. Faults, failures, weaknesses, Mrs. Sin. Wrongdoing, wrong decisions, wrong steps that we've taken because he wants to push us down. Why? He wants us to not take our place at the throne. Why? Because in the presence of God, no need goes unmet at the throne. Every answer is secured because there is no question at the throne. There are no needs unmet at the throne. Because remember what it says in Hebrews 4, verse 16. Let's look at that together. The King James translation says, come boldly to the throne of grace that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in the time of need. So notice this. Where should we be found at a time of need? At the throne. Where? What should we be obtaining at a time of need, grace and mercy. Now notice this again. It says, therefore, let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace that we may obtain notice. I love this. That at the throne is our obtaining place. Nothing goes unmet at the throne. That when we go into the presence of God, when we recognize we belong there, that any, anything less than the throne. What does that mean? Being rooted in the circumstances of this life. That doesn't belong to us. It's below the throne. Being rooted in the opposition, in the flow of this world system. It doesn't belong to us because we have been raised and seated at the throne of God. You say, are you God? No. But we are one in Christ. And where the head is, the body also resides. Know this, you are always welcome at the throne. You are always welcome in the presence of God. And people say, well, Pastor Nancy, you don't know what I've done, but do you know what the blood did for you? It cleansed you. And know this. People will say, well, God loves me as I am. Yes, he loves us as we are. But he doesn't leave us as we are. He brings us into the likeness of his own Son. Why? Because in Christ is our life of holiness. In Christ, Christ is our sanctification. In Christ is our separation from the system of this world. And we are able to live as one in Christ because we belong in that place. And I will say this, no wonder people's lives are grieved. Or if I could say this, they sense a flow of disappointment with their life. Many times that is true about believers. Why is that? Because our spirits are dissatisfied when they're not in fellowship, ongoing, abiding fellowship with the place we've been raised to. If we settle for the flow of this world, our spirit is cheated and our spirit knows it. And so sometimes we find ourselves inwardly disappointed not Satisfied inwardly, what does that do to for us? Not knowing that we've been raised to operate and live from a higher place. And not just living from the low flow of the flow of this world. The circumstances of this world surround us, but they don't belong to us. We are to rule and reign over those. And we can do that as we take our place at the throne. And we're occupied with who he is in us and who we are in Him. And so we, as we walk throughout this life, all throughout the day, we need to build in ourselves the awareness he's in me. He's in Me to put me over today. And I belong in the presence of God. I belong at the place of ruling and reigning, which is the seat of authority that I've been raised to. Listen too many times. We can look back over our lives and we can see when we were pushed around. But we can also say that's not going to happen anymore. I'm done with my days of being pushed around by circumstances, by the adversary, by the accuser of the brethren. I'm not letting fear push me around. I'm not letting depression push me around. I'm not letting sickness and disease and lack push me around. Why? Because we're to rule and reign. We've been raised above, above all those. And the only way we can enjoy our place and our privileges in Christ is when we renew our minds to who we are in him. And we start setting that before us. And we are to live this day and every day by saying, today I'm in Him, he's in Me. And today I'm going to draw on the greater One in me because he puts me over and because I'm drawing on Him. There is no struggle in my daily life. Listen, when circumstances and opposition show up, they want us to enter into their struggle. But we've been raised above the struggle of circumstances. You know, if we're just going to look at circumstances that surround us, they can look so complicated, they can look so tangled and involved. But from the throne everything is easy. If we are struggling, it's because we're looking at situations from a low place. But when we realize, wait a minute, I'm seated above this and all I have to do is follow the One I'm in fellowship with. All I have to do is hear what he says to me and move in the face of those circumstances as he would direct. And know this. We don't have to follow, figure out the solution for circumstances. All we have to do is hear what He Says to us, you know, all through Jesus earthly ministry, the gospels that record Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, that record Jesus earthly life, there are places and passages in it when it says that the multitudes came to hear and be healed. Look at this. They came to hear and receive their need, met that particular need that those passages refer to are healing. But I can I tell you this, if we can hear and be healed, can't we also hear and receive provision that hearing was, was preceding their healing? Well, I tell you, if hearing is preceding their healing, hearing also precedes every other victory we need to lay hold of in our daily life. So what's that mean? At the throne he is heard when. Because we're in his presence and we can live in the place of the presence of God to where we hear. Hearing is an ongoing flow of our daily life. You know, when just looking at, naturally, when you see a sheepfold and there's a shepherd over that, over that sheepfold, that is, that sheepfold is following them all throughout the day as the shepherd is leading that sheepfold, those sheep are hearing him all day long. Maybe not continually moment by moment by moment by moment, but every time there's a direction, they hear that. Every time there's a correction when that shepherd may reach out with his, his rod and protect one of them and draw them back in closer. What is that? That there's movement of the shepherd in the life of the sheep all day long. All day long. It's not just once a week do those sheep get to be in proximity to that shepherd that keeps them safe every day, all day long. And they are in a place that they can easily hear. I would say this to us as we take our place in Christ. That means we take our place at the throne and we can easily, easily hear God's directive for our life. We can hear what Jesus, the great shepherd is saying to us by his spirit. Because we are not to live this life by figuring out our help. We're to hear our answer and then make a move. And as I said in the Gospels, it was, it was, it was recorded that they came to hear and be healed. Their healing was in their hearing. The more, the more accurately they heard, the more fully they received of the healing flow. But what we're seeing is that is the order of God, that before God moves, he says something. God never makes a movement until he says something. Because the words of God direct the movement of God. The words of God direct the power of God. So before God's going to move in your Life. You're going to hear him say something. So to know how we're to cooperate with his movement. Let's hear what he's saying to us. If their healing was in their hearing and the Word says it was, they came to hear and be healed. Do you know that that's. That's God's policy and that's God's pattern of leading us. That we hear and we're healed. But not only that, we're here. We hear and we're provided for. We hear and we receive answers. We hear and we move into the plan of God. Everything that we receive from God is based on our hearing. And if I could say this, God did not want us to ever miss hearing what he would say to us. So number one, he filled us with Himself. And number two, we are raised and seated right in his presence. There's hearing from God all around us. But we have to recognize how he's leading us, how he's speaking to us, how he's directing us. And if I could say this, one of the most important truths and one of the most important flows of the life of the believer is to how to recognize what God's saying to us. You know, God is going to lead us every time hearing belongs to us. But we have to recognize how he's leading. And in recognizing how he's leading, know this. How is he going to primarily lead us through the inward witness. Romans chapter 8 in verse 14 says that the sons of God are led by the Spirit of God. Let's look at that again. That's a King James translation. Romans 8, 14. That the sons of God are led by the Spirit of God. What's that mean? God has. He has committed himself to lead us. And how he's going to lead us. Verse 16 tells us so. If I could have them put verse 16, Romans 8, verse 16. Look at how it reads the Spirit itself. Or we could say this. The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. What's that mean? When you were born again, the assurance that you were born again came because the Spirit of God bore witness. I'm a child of God now. That's how we knew for certain that we were born again. Before we even go to heaven, without even seeing God, without even seeing Jesus, we're assured and we're certain that we're born again because the Spirit of God bears witness with our Spirit. Well, if that's the way that God leads His children, by the Spirit of God bearing witness even at the new Birth, which is the most important thing we need to know from the Spirit. That's how he's going to lead us on. Everything that we need to know from God, whenever we need to know the leading of God, whenever we know, need to know what he's saying to us. The Spirit of God will bear witness with our Spirit. Do you know? This is a leading that we can. We are assured of. And that God has said in his word that the sons of God are led by the Spirit of God. And as verse 16 says, the way he's going to lead us is the inward witness. And I want you to know that when I'm talking to you about being at the throne and hearing from the throne and the throne, directing our lives as one in Christ, how does that happen? God bears witness with our spirit. We don't always hear a voice. We don't always have a dramatic leading. We just. It bears witness. What's that mean? It seems right. If we're to do something and the Spirit of God is leading us to do it. Sometimes we can't even articulate in natural words how we know that. It just seems right inwardly. That's the spirit of God bearing witness. And I will say this, that I have made decisions that deal with millions of dollars based on nothing else but the Spirit bearing witness with my own spirit. And I've learned this, that the bigger the decision, the more important the decision, the quieter the leading. Because so much of the time God is not training us to need a loud leading. He wants us to recognize when this. When he's bearing witness with our spirit and leading us to do something. That's the way that even as we belong at the throne, what I'm talking about, that he meets our needs at the throne. How are we going to hear what he's saying to us? It's by the inward witness. It's not by some dramatic voice. It's not by some. Some spectacular dealing. Because the Word never promises us a spectacular leading of the Lord. But he does promise us the inward witness or the Spirit of God bearing witness with our Spirit. Can I tell you this? That's the safest way to be led. Why? Because the devil can never replicate or imitate that leading. Why? Because the devil is not in your spirit. The Holy Spirit is in your spirit. The devil talks against the mind, bringing things against the mind, but God is not. The dealings of God don't begin with the mind. They begin with the inward witness. And can I tell you this? Learn to have confidence that when I sense something in my spirit that it bears witness that I need to go this direction or not go this direction. You're hearing from the throne. It's not something spectacular because God does not promise us a spectacular leading. And can I tell you this? We don't always need a spectacular leading. Why? Because we're ever safe in the presence of God at the throne. And we can just. We can just perceive in our spirit how he's leading us and directing us because we're in such close proximity to God. And the Word tells us that he is so close to us. And how close is He? He's in us. Why? Because he never wanted us to be without his leading, without his presence, without knowing that his presence belongs to us as one in Christ. The greatest thing that Jesus ever brought us into was fellowship with the Father. Now, it's a great thing to be brought into healing, to have the body healed. It's a great thing to be brought into prosperity and have provision for our needs to be met. But the greatest thing that our redemption ever won for us was the fellowship of the Father to live in the presence of God. And I want you to know that every need goes fully met at the throne. If you're faced with a need, take your place. And I would say this. You don't have to earn it. You do have to acknowledge it. Acknowledge I've been raised and seated with Christ. And because I'm raised and seated with Christ, I belong in the presence of the Father. I come boldly to the throne of grace. Notice this. The devil is always trying to condemn us. He's always trying to accuse us because he does not want us to be bold in the presence of God. Because what happens if we're not bold? We draw back from the presence of God instead of taking our place in the presence of God. And so I want to pray with those of you who you say, Pastor Nancy, I'm facing a need. I want to take you into the presence of God and let's go there together, because that's where we belong. And that's the place where every need is met and fully supplied is in the presence of God. Because in Christ, every need is met. Amen. So no matter what you're facing, why don't you just reach your hands toward the device that you're listening to or the screen that you're watching, and, Father, I lift up my brothers and sisters in Christ. I don't know the needs that are represented today, but you do. And I know this, that you have told us that we are so welcome at the throne. In fact, you tell us, come boldly to the throne of grace that we may obtain. So Father, I bring my precious brothers and sisters in Christ before you. I bring them with me to that place of your presence. And I say that in your presence every single thing they need is fully obtained. So Father, I thank you for bodies healed, I thank you for needs supplied, I thank you for resources to come, I thank you for peace, I thank you for joy. And I thank you that we belong at the throne, for we are children of the throne. And we thank you for our complete provision, our complete help, because it all belongs to us in Christ. Well, you don't want to miss next time. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.
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I want you to know that every single person in this world needs a Savior. And the greatest thing of all is that we have one. But this Savior must be welcomed. This Savior must be received. And it's so easy to receive Jesus as the Savior. The Word says that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now, do that with me. Say, jesus, I receive you as my Savior. Come into my heart and be the Lord of my life, and I'll live for you all the days of my life. God bless you.
Date: December 1, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne
In this episode of Jesus the Healer, Nancy Dufresne continues her long-running series, "In Christ I Can," focusing on the believer’s identity and authority in Christ. The central theme centers around understanding and living from our position "in Christ"—specifically, that believers have been raised and seated with Jesus at the right hand of the Father, and thus partake in His fellowship, authority, and provision. Nancy provides teaching on renewing the mind, resisting condemnation, and recognizing how the Holy Spirit leads through the inward witness. The episode emphasizes boldness at the "throne of grace" and the practical outworking of victory in daily life.
Every sick room is filled with God’s power, available for healing.
Listeners are encouraged to actively receive and declare this power over their bodies.
The series aims to build understanding of our identity in Christ as the foundation of redemption.
The enemy tries to pull believers back to identify with their old selves, but in Christ, this identity is settled.
Reference to Ephesians 1:20–21: God raised Jesus from the dead, seated Him at His right hand—believers are also raised and seated with Him.
As the body of Christ, believers are not just “mere man” but draw life from a higher spiritual place.
Hebrews 4:16—“Come boldly to the throne of grace.”
Believers should see fellowship with the Father as both a right and privilege secured by Jesus.
The enemy tries to remind believers of past sins to keep them from boldness at the throne.
Solution: Renewing the mind to what the blood of Jesus has accomplished and refusing to let past identities dominate.
Dissatisfaction in the believer’s life often comes from not fellowshipping with the place they've been raised to in Christ.
Believers are to "rule and reign over" circumstances, not be dominated by them.
Drawing from the life of Jesus and the gospels: before miracles, people came to “hear and be healed.”
God leads primarily through the inward witness (Romans 8:14-16).
Practical Tip: The enemy can only create confusion in the mind, not in the spirit; the inward witness is safe and reliable.
Encourage listeners to approach God with boldness because of Jesus’ finished work.
The devil’s goal is to undermine confidence and keep believers from their place at the throne.
On identity in Christ:
“Our truest identity is who we are in Him.” — Nancy Dufresne ([02:43])
On living from victory:
“I’m done with my days of being pushed around by circumstances, by the adversary, by the accuser of the brethren. I’m not letting fear push me around…” — Nancy Dufresne ([19:42])
On positional truth:
“We are to live our life from the throne. … We've been raised and seated at the throne of God.” — Nancy Dufresne ([06:45])
On hearing God’s voice:
“Before God moves, he says something. God never makes a movement until he says something. … The words of God direct the movement of God.” — Nancy Dufresne ([22:05])
On condemnation:
“You don’t know what the blood did for you. It cleansed you. … He brings us into the likeness of his own Son.” — Nancy Dufresne ([16:04])
Nancy closes by inviting listeners to pray and receive from the presence of God, emphasizing that in Christ, every need is met at the throne and that believers are “children of the throne.” She prays for healing, provision, peace, and joy, reiterating the believer’s right and privilege to access everything God has provided in Christ.
Memorable Closing:
"We belong at the throne, for we are children of the throne. … Remember this: Jesus is the Healer. God bless you." ([27:00])
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