Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer with Nancy Dufresne

Episode 895 | In Christ I Can, Part 135
Date: December 5, 2025

Main Theme

This episode continues Nancy Dufresne’s longstanding “In Christ I Can” series, focusing on what believers have access to because they are in Christ. Through testimonies, scripture, and practical application, Nancy encourages listeners to think, speak, and live from the revelation of their identity and provision in Christ, emphasizing faith, healing, provision, and the importance of receiving and resting in God’s love.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Power and Provision Available In Christ

(00:10 – 03:55)

• Nancy begins with a declaration:
  “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one – that may be describing you... Power is present. That power is there to do a work. Believe in what’s not–try to get something, but notice that He’s already made it yours. It’s present right where you’re at. Say, I receive that power.” (00:10)
• Listeners are encouraged to receive God’s healing and provision by faith, acknowledging that it is already given in Christ.

2. Testimony: Kenneth Copeland’s Response to God’s Challenge

(03:55 – 07:40)

• Nancy shares a defining testimony from Kenneth Copeland’s early ministry:
  • In the 1970s, God tells him to sow $50,000—a near-impossible amount for him at the time.
  • Instead of reasoning or doubting, Copeland responds, “In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.”
  • Despite not having the amount in his own resources, through consistent sowing, God multiplies his seed, and he ends up giving what was required (and more).
• “Our job is just to sow the seed, and it’s God’s job to multiply it... God multiplied the seed sown.” (06:45)
• Insight: Living from “in Christ” reality changes how we view and respond to needs and instructions from God.

3. The Contrast: In Christ vs. Outside of Christ

(07:40 – 12:10)

• Nancy elaborates:
  • “In Christ, there’s only health... victory... provision and peace and joy… But outside of Christ is where symptoms are, where pain is, where unpaid bills are, where depression is…” (08:38)
  • Listeners are reminded daily to “choose to live as one in Christ.”
• Corrects misconception: experiencing pain or symptoms doesn’t mean one is “outside of Christ”; rather, believers are authorized to reject what’s not in Christ.
• “Faith talks about who we are in Christ, what we possess already in Christ.” (10:53)
• Speaking and thinking as “one in Christ” becomes a spiritual habit and the end of a poor self-image.

4. Identity and True Wealth in Christ

(10:53 – 12:20)

• “It’s not money that makes us rich. It’s who’s in us. It’s us being one with Him. That’s our wealth. That’s our abundance.”
• Our identity in Christ is the foundation of redemption and the highest order of faith.

5. The Greatest Blessing: Fellowship With God

(12:20 – 14:45)

• Nancy emphasizes the ultimate provision:
  • “The greatest thing that belongs to us in Christ is the fellowship of God Himself. It’s knowing that we are loved by God.” (12:20)
• Listeners are warned against giving in to accusations from “the accuser of the brethren” who tries to undermine confidence in God’s love and authority.
• Even if we have not used what’s ours, it is still available—simply “pick it back up.”

6. Letting God Love You—Receiving His Flows

(14:45 – 18:10)

• Reads John 15:9 in several translations, emphasizing:
  • “Live within my love… let me love you always.”
• Explores practical aspects:
  • Healing, provision, and peace are “flows” of God’s love.
  • Correction is also a flow of God’s love because it helps close doors to the enemy.
• “If we don’t receive what He’s provided for us, we’re not letting Him love us, because love is a giver.” (13:39)

7. Correction as a Reward of Love

(15:37 – 18:10)

• Correction is described as protection and a blessing, not something to avoid.
• “When Jesus said, ‘Let me love you,’ could we not say this: ‘Let me correct you. Let me show you what is harming your life… that is a flow of the love of God.’” (17:24)

8. God is Not Mad at You—Challenging Misconceptions

(18:10 – 21:05)

• Nancy recounts a story about a pastor who advertised, “God is not mad at you,” and the backlash even from Christians.
• “The devil has so twisted how God is seen, even by his own children... Satan, who is the accuser of the brethren, is also the accuser of God. He will accuse God of things that are not true about Him—to distort your view of God.” (19:50)

9. Receiving From God—The Role of Love and Faith

(21:05 – 24:33)

• Story of the missionary:
  • Brother Hagin prays for a dying missionary; Jesus appears and is ready to heal, but the man—believing, “I can’t receive my healing”—refuses to receive.
  • Jesus says with sadness, “See, I came to heal him, and he won’t let me.”
  • Insight:
    • Even when power is present and faith is released, one must personally receive.
    • Not understanding God’s love will “affect your ability to receive from Him.” (23:12)

10. Love Refuses to Leave Us Where We Are

(24:33 – 27:10)

• The story of the woman caught in adultery showcases Jesus’s love: He does not condone sin but offers correction out of love.
• “Love doesn’t mean you agree… I don’t have to agree with you to love you.” (25:45)
• “Love will love us when we are doing it wrong, to help deliver us from doing it wrong.” (26:00)
• God loves us too much to leave us where He found us.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.” (Kenneth Copeland via Nancy, 04:35)
• “Outside of Christ is where symptoms are… But you are authorized to say what’s in Christ when something that isn’t Christ tries to attach itself to your life.” (09:32)
• “When we think of ourselves and speak of ourselves in Christ, that’s the end of a poor self-image.” (11:22)
• “The greatest thing that belongs to us in Christ is the fellowship of God Himself.” (12:30)
• “If we don’t receive what He’s provided for us, we’re not letting Him love us, because love is a giver.” (13:45)
• “If you falter in your understanding of how God loves you, it will affect your ability to receive from Him.” (23:12)
• “Love doesn’t mean you agree… I don’t have to agree with you to love you.” (25:45)
• “God loves us too much to leave us like He found us.” (27:09)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:10: Power present in every sick room—call to receive.
• 03:55: Kenneth Copeland’s testimony—living from “in Christ.”
• 07:40: Contrasting in Christ vs. outside of Christ.
• 12:20: Fellowship with God—the supreme blessing.
• 14:45: John 15:9—living in God’s love; letting Him love us.
• 17:24: Correction as a flow of God’s love.
• 18:10: Misconceptions about God’s anger—“God is not mad at you.”
• 21:05: Missionary healing story—importance of receiving.
• 24:33: Jesus and the woman caught in adultery—love with correction.
• 27:09: “God loves us too much to leave us like He found us.”

Final Thoughts

Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode centers on living with the consciousness of who we are “in Christ,” receiving all that Christ has provided, and allowing God’s love—not our own reasonings or limitations—to define our actions and expectations. Correction, provision, and healing are all “love flows” from God, and the primary barrier to receiving is not God's willingness but our own self-perception and openness to His love.

This summary presents the heart of Nancy Dufresne’s teaching and will be valuable for those seeking biblical encouragement to walk out their identity, inheritance, and relationship with Christ.