← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now from the.
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Top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet.
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The soles of my feet.
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Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today for Jesus the healer. And we invite you get something to take notes on today because we're expecting and believing for God to give you answers. And you know, when God speaks something to us, it really stands up so large in our spirit and it's so pronounced and it's so clear to us. And we think, I will certainly remember that. But then we realize later, at the passing of time, we kind of have to search and go, what was that? Well, we don't want to miss something that God makes revelation to us and brings clarity to us about. So we invite you get something to take notes on. Follow along with us in your Bible. And we're going to be continuing teaching on the series that we've been in now for a while and it's called In Christ I Can. And our golden text has been Colossians chapter two and verse nine. And again, I'm going to read this out of the living Bible translation. It reads this way. For in Christ there is all of God in a human body. So you have everything when you have Christ and you are filled with, with God, look at this. Through your union with Christ. And he is the highest ruler with authority over every other power. Well, how many of you know this, that because the greater one is in us, every other power that would be against us is a lesser power. And so we have to remember that in the face of every opposition that we encounter, we always approach that opposition mindful of the truth that that is a defeated foe that the enemy has spoiled and defeated by the by Jesus. And people would say, well, Pastor Nancy, if Jesus spoiled principalities and powers, which of course he did, then they say, why am I still having to deal with the devil? Because he has not yet been imprisoned, but one day he will be imprisoned. And until then, our authority over him is more than enough to hold us in a place of unending victory in our life. Now, just know this. Just because we are filled with God, just because all that belongs to Christ belongs to us, does not mean that there won't be opposition. It doesn't mean that tests and trials will leave us alone. But it means that no matter what we face, we always have the greater one on the inside of us to put us over. And we are to allow any test that comes against us, that we write the ending by who we are in Christ. We don't let the enemy determine the outcome of any circumstances, circumstance, any situation, because we can't keep opposition from coming, but we can certainly determine the outcome of it. And so we have to stay in our position of in Christ. And know this. In Christ, as this says in Colossians, we have everything when we have Christ, so we already have everything that God desires for us. We already have been given as our present possession every supply that we're going to need to fulfill the plan of God for our lives. And it's not this, this life in Christ. And this, if I could say, the provision that comes as one in Christ, the supply that is ours because we are one with Christ, does not. It's not something that we achieve, it's something that we receive. And so that means we don't labor to become who we are, but we are to discover all that belongs to us in Christ so that we can put a demand on it, so we can have faith for it to receive all God has made our present possession. Listen, everything you're going to need to fulfill the will of God and to live godly in this life, you already have available to you. It's your present possession. But it's up to us, and it's a joyous work to become a partaker of what we possess in Christ. And so all of this that belongs to us in Christ, it has to become a revelation to us. What's that mean? It has to dawn on our Spirit. This is not just something we can mentally calculate, mentally measure, or mentally handle. Because what God has made ours is so far above the mentality of the human mind to be able to measure it and calculate it. But it's something that we receive by faith. We agree with it. And then we allow the Holy Spirit, who is the one who makes the word revelation to us, we allow him to unfold that to us. Because when it dawns on us all that Christ has made ours and all that he has made Us to be in him, then that means the end of struggle. You know, when there have been times that I have faced different situations and I would, if I could say this, I would do all I knew to stand my ground. And there were times that something would oppose me and I would answer it with the word of God. And I would notice sometimes that opposition would stand back. But it wouldn't, if I could say this, it wouldn't necessarily leave the room. It was just present, yet it would stand back. And I knew that if I was not laying hold of all that the Word declares is mine, then I'm missing something. And if, if I would recognize, wait a minute, I'm missing something here. And I would look to the Holy Spirit and he would maybe bring a scripture to me, an instruction to me. And what's that mean? He would reveal something to me. And every time I needed something further revealed to me once I had that revelation from him and I would employ what he said every time, it was the end of struggle. So if we're struggling, let's just recognize that there's more revelation available to us. Because when we're living and walking as he made us to be, that is the end of struggle. And we're not to live a life where we're harassed and something's dogging us, but there's revelation of how to, if I could say this, live as rich as we are and get on the other side of that opposition. What we need to understand is this, is that the Word reveals to us what Jesus did for us. And especially when we look in the book of Hebrews, we see, if we could say it this way, what happened from the cross to the throne. Because what was made ours in Christ happen before we ever arrived on this planet. So we have to go back to the Word and we find out, because God reveals to us what Christ did for us. And how many of you know, God authored the plan. And not only that, God sent His son to fulfill the plan. God. God authored the plan. Jesus fulfilled the plan. And the Spirit of God leads us into the plan. And so it's all of the Godhead at work to bring us into enjoying the rights and the privileges that belong to us in Christ. And we have to remember this, that Jesus didn't just die for us, but he died as us. He took our place in death, the death that belonged to us. He took our place. But not only that, we have to see something that is so, my goodness, it's staggering to the intellect of man. But Jesus took on God had him to be born into the earth. He took on the flesh of man. He was God in man's form. And he did not die on that cross as God. He died on that cross as a man, and he took the place. But the thing is, is that he was God, no sin. That his blood was holy blood. And so his blood was the perfect sacrifice for our sin. So Jesus didn't just die for us, he died as us. And we are to come into the understanding that when he died, we died. He died in our place. So it's as though his death was absolutely in the eyes of God and in the eyes of justice. His death was our death. And we need to see it that way. Because the cross wasn't just a place of shame. It wasn't just a place of suffering. And so much of the traditional thinking of man, they look upon the cross and they say it was just a place of suffering. But it was more than that. There were greater things happening, and that is that there was a deeper meaning. It wasn't a place where something ended. It was a place where God's plan was fulfilled and something greater began a new life in Christ for humanity. So the cross in them, if the traditional view of it, man would look at that and say the cross was an ending place. But it was really the beginning place for us to be raised and seated in a place of authority. So there's so much more that if we don't dive into the Word and see this event of Jesus paying our price as God shows it to us, we can misunderstand it. It wasn't just a place that something ended. It was a place when the new life began for us. And we must understand this because it's the foundation of who we are in Christ. It's the foundation of our redemption. I want us to look at Galatians chapter two in verse 20. Now, you think this is Paul writing and God had to reveal this to Paul. And this is not just something you can just study out. This is something that has to be revealed by the Spirit of God. And God revealed this to Paul. And this is what we see in Galatians chapter 2, verse 20. The King James translation says this. Paul was writing, he said, I am crucified with Christ. Now think of those words. You think, my mind can't fathom that in the sense of, I'm alive today, but how was I crucified with Christ in the plan of God? That when God, when Jesus hung on that cross, in the mind of God and in the mind of Justice. That was Jesus taking your place where you should have been. He ended up there in your behalf. So this is why Paul said, I am crucified with Christ. And then he said this. Nevertheless, I live. Yet not I, but Christ liveth in me. And the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me. When it says he gave himself for me, it means he took my place. The place of suffering that belonged to me. Jesus stepped up and he took that place. So when Jesus died on that cross, God counted it as though you were now crucified. And so then the penalty doesn't fall on us because it already fell on Jesus. And this is staggering to the mind of man. But it's a revelation of the Spirit of God. And we accept that. And we need to build that revelation in us. We need to speak that revelation, meditate on that, and say, jesus took my place in death, in the penalty of death that belonged to me. He took my place. Therefore I was crucified with him because God accounted it as though it was me. That justice allowed Jesus to be that substitute for me. And so the cross wasn't just what Jesus endured, but by our identification with him, by faith, it became our cross too. Now think of that. That was my cross because he took my place in that. And so that makes us to have such a deep love and deep respect and admiration for the price that Jesus paid. That when Jesus went to that cross and they were crucifying him, we are to see it as the Word tells us, tells it to us. The old man was hanging there. That who we used to be before we were born again. That's what went to that cross. The old man was crucified with Christ. That old sin nature, what I was without Christ was crucified on that cross. And so that old man that each and every one. What's the Bible mean by the old man? It means the man without Christ. That we were born into this earth with the nature of the enemy in us, not because we chose him, but because Adam chose. And so when Adam sinned against God, he opened the way for every man on the earth to be born with the wrong nature. Because Adam had the nature of God, he had the life of God. But when he chose to cooperate with the devil, he lost his divine nature. And now the nature of the enemy, the nature of the devil came into him. And it was. It was something that happened to every man because of Adam's choice. But Jesus became the Rescue for every man. And so the old man was the man without Christ. Before we were in Christ, there was that old spirit that we possessed that was really dominated by the nature of the enemy. And so the old man without Christ went on that cross. And that was the feature of our being that died on the cross. So our old man was nailed there. But what was in that old man? The sin nature, the nature of weakness, the nature of bondage, that of failure. Everything associated to us without Christ went to that cross. So what's that mean? Because we are no longer under the dominion of that old man. We have a new man. We're a new man in Christ. He gave us a new life, a new spirit, a spirit that has the life and nature of God in it. What's that mean? There's no sin in this nature. There is no weakness in this nature. In Christ, there is no weakness. There's no bondage. There's no addictions. There's no habits that are to hold us down. Because that's. That depicts the old man. But the old man went to the cross with Christ. And this is what we have to understand if we are going to really live as rich as he has made us to be. So the old man was nailed to that cross with its weaknesses, its sins, its faults, its failures, its bondage. All of that was put to death on the cross. And you say, I just don't understand how that could happen. No, we believe that by faith, because God made record of how justice saw that transaction. And the courts of heaven say that the price of sin has been paid and it was the blood of Jesus that did it. So we are to see ourselves. Wait a minute. What I used to be no longer exists because the old man was crucified with Christ. So all the struggles that were part of my life without Christ, they have no place in me now because they went to the cross with Jesus and they were nailed there. This was the great transaction of Calvary. This is what happened, is that that which held us in bondage no more lives. It was crucified on that cross. Jesus didn't just die for us, he died in our place as us. And so we have to see that and say, this is what. This is the divine transaction that God authored and that Jesus fulfilled it. So because we were crucified with him, not only were we crucified with him, we rose with Him. But what rose? A new life arose. Not the old man, because the old man was crucified on that cross, but when Jesus rose from the dead we rose with Him. So as when Jesus died, we died. When he rose, we rose. And not only that, when Jesus was raised from the dead, what happened? He was. He went. He ascended up to His Father and took His Son right at the right hand of the throne. I want you to know when we were buried, when we were. When we were crucified with Christ, we were buried with Him. We were raised with him. But now we're seated with Him. Every. Every place he went, he took us. Every place he went to the beginning, at that cross. When he went there, he took humanity with Him. He took mankind with Him. When he was buried in, he took us with Him. When he was raised, he took us with Him. When he was seated at the right hand of the Father, he took us with Him. Now this is the great thing that we have to establish on the inside of us. And how do we do that? We say it, I was crucified with Him, I was buried with Him, I was raised with Him, I was seated with Him. What's that mean? That we are above every single opposition that would ever try to hold us in bondage. Any sin that would try to nip at our heels, so to speak, we say, no, we're above it. And so many only see the cross as a place of forgiveness of past sins and getting them into heaven. And that's true, but it was more than that. It was not only that. The cross wasn't just to get us into heaven, but it was to get us into a life of victory. All in victory over all the power of the enemy. It wasn't just being free from sin, it was that sin will no longer lord it over us. We have been raised and seated as the Master over sin. That we're not spending this life trying to outrun sin, trying to outmaneuver sin. We're to rule and reign over sin. It does. When Jesus paid the price, it didn't just get us a pardon, it got us a position. It got us a place in Christ at the right hand of the Father, a position of authority over all the power of the enemy. We're not just here, if I could say this, struggling, trying to overcome something of the enemy. We're here ruling and reigning. And if we don't see ourselves as having been crucified, if we don't see the old man as having been buried and raised and seated with Christ as new creatures in Christ, then we think we've got to cope with what comes against us. We're not to cope with lost its power over Us when we were crucified with Christ, when we were buried with him and we were raised as new creatures in Christ. And your born again experience is simply you accepting, I'm a new creature now. I'm done with the old man. I'm done with the old life. And because of our faith, of us agreeing with who he made us to be in Christ, now we enter into a new life and we leave the old life behind. The problem is that so many people hold in their mentality to what they were before Christ, the experiences they had before. They try to get past those by talking them out. I want you to know when you talk out the past, you're not. You're not letting it out, you're letting it in. And it begins to get your attention. It begins to start dictating the way you treat people, how you respond to people. And we're to say about those old experiences that were not from God, we're to say that was crucified with Christ. And I'm not talking about it anymore. Why? Because it was not only crucified, it was buried. And I'm going to leave it buried. Amen. I'm not going to let that rise up and live with me. Colossians, chapter 2. In verse 15, it says this, and speaking of Jesus and what happened when Jesus paid the price for us, it says, and having spoiled principalities and powers, Jesus made a show of them openly triumphing over them in it. In what? In the cross. And so the place that looked like defeat when Jesus went to the cross was really the place of triumph. Triumph for us, triumph for humanity. Listen, can I tell you the best salvation message that you could tell anyone is when you see someone that's not born again, say, every man needs a savior. And the good news is you've got one. Whether they ever receive him as Savior, if they ever, whether or not they ever receive Jesus as the Lord of their life, they speak, still have a Savior. And I want you to know you have a Savior. And all you have to do to come into the flow of what that Savior made ours is just say, I receive you as my Savior. And that's our great news. And our good news to tell the world is you need a Savior and you have one. And all he asks for is for you to agree that he's your Savior. Because he can only come in and be that Savior at our invitation. He will not force himself into the life of anyone. So although that the place of Calvary looked like defeat, it was a place of triumph for Every human that was born because it gave them a savior. Calvary was God's divine way to enter hell and for darkness to fail, for the plan of the enemy to fail. I want us to look at something. Let's go to First Corinthians, chapter two, in verse six. I want you to know this. The. The place of Calvary. It wasn't when Jesus died, Satan thought he won a victory. But what Satan thought was his victory really became his humiliation. It became his place of utter defeat. And there is so much that belongs to us in Christ and so much that we need to see ourselves as one with Him. This is why people struggle unnecessarily. They are trying to. They are trying to do better so that they can feel better. They don't know that they've already been made better, that they have been crucified with Christ and they're not struggling to get rid of the old. The old has been buried. Leave it buried. Every time we talk about what. What the enemy has done against us, the difficulty, the hardship that's come to us in life is we're resurfacing, we're bringing it back up. We're digging up what is only worthy of one thing, and that's being buried and left. And what was raised up was new. God did not raise up the old. He raised up the new. And so he brought us into a new life. Listening I was. We're not even going to be able to go to that one scripture because we're going to in the next. In the next episode, we'll pick this up because I don't want to cheat where we're going, but I will say this to us. We have to. We have to begin to see ourselves as the Word speaks of us. And if we're not careful, we try to. We try to move into a better life by our behavior. We try to move into a better life by thinking better thoughts. Well, I want you to know the only better thoughts are found in the Word when we agree with what the Word says about us. So what does that mean for us? We need to see ourselves as God shows us in the Word. We identify with who we are in Christ. In Christ. We were crucified with him, the old man. In Christ. That old man died and was buried. And God left the old man buried. He did not raise up that old sin nature that was in us, but we were raised from the dead with Jesus. We were seated at the right hand of the Father with Him. And we are now living and conducting life based on our raised position and not based on what we were before Him. Now we have to build this on the inside of us, establish this truth, speaking about it, meditating on it, saying this is who I am in Christ. And as I said, if people try to mentally process it, they they'll falter at it because it's something we believe by faith. It's what the Word says and we agree with what the Word says about us. And this is what Paul said. I am crucified with Christ, yet I live. But not it's not just me, it's Christ in me now. This new life is lived with him as the life, the source, the strength, the wisdom of how I'm to live now. And we don't just have us that we're drawing on anymore, but now we have him on the inside. Amen. Well, as I said, we're going to be teaching along this line in the upcoming episodes and you don't want to miss it. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you you.
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To watch or listen to today's message and other messages by Nancy dufresne, visit dufresneministries.org.
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I want you to know that every single person in this world needs a Savior. And the greatest thing of all is that we have one. But this Savior must be welcomed. This Savior must be received. And it's so easy to receive Jesus as the Savior. The Word says that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now do that with me. Say Jesus, I receive you as my Savior. Come into my heart and be the Lord of my life. And I'll live for you all the days of my life. God bless you.
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I want you to know that every single person in this world needs a Savior. And the greatest thing of all is that we have one. But this Savior must be welcomed. This Savior must be received. And it's so easy to receive Jesus as the Savior. The Word says that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now, do that with me. Say, Jesus, I receive you as my Savior. Come into my heart and be the Lord of my life, and I'll live for you all the days of my life. God bless you.