← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now from the.
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Top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet.
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The soles of my feet.
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Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the Healer. And we're in a most wonderful series called In Christ I Can. And I'm so thankful that as we take time to spend time in the Word, that the Holy Ghost is helping unveil some of these things to us because it's so important. This is so foundational to who we are in Christ. And it's really foundational to living the kind of life that God authored for us. We don't try to achieve this life in Christ, we just receive it. And as we. We can't receive it if we don't have it unveiled to us. So we thank God for the opportunity to spend this time in the wor and we discover some things together and we start seeing ourselves as the Word shows us to ourselves. Because to really see the real you, you have to go to the Word to find you. Don't go to your ancestry to find you. Don't go to your education to find you. Don't go to your upbringing or your social status and your social standing to find you. Because all of that is changeable. And that's not really. That's not really your homeland. Our homeland is in heaven. Are representatives on this earth of heaven. We're ambassadors for God. And so our home, our identity comes from the place of our homeland and who we are in that place. And so to be as one in Christ, we have to see ourselves as the Word shows us to ourself. And when we see it in the Word, we need to agree with it. We need to build the truth of who we are in Him. You know, first of all, when I was born in this earth, I was a daughter. I became a student, I became an employee, I became a wife, a mother, a minister. But some of those titles have changed. My parents are now in heaven. And so I'm a daughter to parents who are no longer here. Then just roles change in life. But what if I would have attached my identity to one of those roles? When those roles change, then I lose footing of my true identity. And I want you to know God does not want us to attach our true identity to anything that's changeable because our identity is in Christ and that is unchanging for us. Whenever we receive him as our Savior now, our life is seen in him. You know, when we go back and I'm thinking of the passage In Luke chapter 4 and verse 16, I'm going to ask the control room if they'll pick Put that up. Luke chapter 4:16. And Jesus had been in the wilderness of temptation before this passage. And he came out of that wilderness of temptation full of the Holy Ghost. And the first place he went to after that, he went back to his own hometown. And it says in Luke 4:16 and Jesus came to Nazareth where he had been brought up. And as his custom was, look at this. Where is he? He's in Nazareth.
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And as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day. Well, what's that say? Jesus habit was. He was in church. So if we want to be like Jesus, we got to go where he went. And if Jesus needed to go to church, we need to go to church. And so it says, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and he stood up for to read. So he had a role there in that. In that synagogue. And part of it was he would read out of the Scriptures. Let's go to the next verse in verse 17 and see what that says. It says, and there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he had opened the book, look at this. This is what I want to show. He found the place where it was written. So notice Jesus was going to read a passage to him, but he found the place. And then go ahead with the next verse, if you would. It says he found the place where it was written. And this is what he read. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me. So where did he find this phrase, the Spirit of the Lord is upon me? He found it in the Word. He found himself in the Word. And he got up and declared at the beginning of his ministry who the Word said he was. He went to the Word to find his true identity. And he said this, the Spirit of the Lord's upon me, because he has anointed me. And then he tells the Job Description of that anointing. If Jesus had to go to the Word to find himself, we all have to go to the Word to. To find ourselves. We don't find ourselves in society by what how society shows us. We don't really care what the world defines as us. We go to who the. To the Word to say what the Word says we look like. Amen. Well, what do we look like? We look like we're in Him. Why? Because we are in him. And something that God said to me years ago, I was, I had been going, you know, anytime, anytime you're going to advance spiritually, anytime you're going to go into the next thing God has for you, something has to come up in your thinking to go further. The thinking has to go further the lid. The limitations have to come off. Wrong ways of thinking that would hold us back have to be addressed. And so anytime that we are as we're pressing forward, just know this. The Devil's going to bring all kinds of opposition to try to keep us from advancing. And what he will do many times is he'll push on a particular area of your life that you're familiar with, maybe a place that you have struggled to step past that or just something that, if I could say this throws you real carnal real quick. You know what I mean by that? And the devil, he's acquainted with what we respond. Listen, the devil is not all knowing like God, but he has to learn us through observation. And so the Devil will watch us to see what causes us to regress, what causes us to step back, what causes us to respond naturally instead of spiritually. Let's just say, for example, if there's a particular person, let's say if someone is easily offended, all the devil has to do is, is put situations and opportunities to be offended all around you. And he can certainly strategically move and change situations around you so that offense is offered you at every turn. But if you, if you step over that and say, I refuse to be offended, then no matter what offense he sends your way, it doesn't work. It doesn't have its intended effect on you. So what's that? Give the Devil an insight into you by showing weakness? Show strength. Anything that has been a weakness, deal with it, with the word. Because then you'll close the door to the devil to be able to use that against you. And so we see this, that the Devil is always looking for something to poke on us so that we can. So that we. He's hoping to hold us in a carnal flow. So that we don't advance spiritually. And in all honesty, for me, I've never really had much of a problem forgiving people just simply because I don't take it personally when somebody doesn't agree with me or, you know, they don't see it the way I see it, because I know this. Not everyone has heard what God has said to me. And so I'm just going to move in line with what God said to me. And if somebody else doesn't agree with that, that's okay, because I know this. They didn't hear what God said to me. So I don't struggle with them not agreeing with me on something. I don't have really a problem necessarily overlooking things that somebody has done to me because if they knew me, they would like me. And if people really knew your heart, they would like you, right? But they see things on the outside and they start, you know, maybe they start pushing on those things. But what I've had to deal with, particularly for me, is being disappointed in myself. And then, of course, then the devil will, if I could say that, energize that he'll show you something about yourself and help you push on that a little bit more. And so there was this one particular season that I was really paying attention at getting past some certain things, I guess some things that I just get disappointed with myself about. I need to get past this. Not necessarily a lifestyle of sin, but just a weakness. Something that I don't want to keep having in my in place in my life. I want it to lose sway over me. So I remember I had gone to God one day and I said, God, I'm so sorry. I keep. I keep failing. At this one point, I'm trying to do better, you know, in this one situation, I'm trying to do better at this aspect of my makeup. And I was just repenting to him again. And I said, you know, I confess that I know that I'm struggling at this point point. And I'm just trusting you to help me. And so I had gotten up to just after I'd talked to God a little bit about that. And I just picked up a book to sit down and study. And just a few moments later, the Holy Spirit said on the inside of me, get down on your knees. And when I did, as soon as my knees hit the floor, Jesus stood in front of me and he said this to me. He said, you have failed many, many times. And I was at that moment so grateful that I was the first one who brought that up. That I didn't ever want God to bring up something and I'm oblivious to it because I have not been sober about myself. So I was so grateful that I thought, I'm so glad I brought this up. And he's not the first one bringing it up. He said, you have failed many, many times. But then he didn't leave me there. He said, but I never have. So I share my success with you now. This is what it means in Christ that we are living this life not based on our own ability to succeed, but based on the one who has already succeeded. And this is what it means to be righteous. This is what it means to be right with God. That we are not depending on ourselves to put us over and to fulfill what we're born for, but we're depending on the greater One in us, that we have access to the Father. We have access to the throne. Not because we've done everything right, but because he did everything right. And this is your true identity. Your true identity is what you are in Him. Your true identity is not what you are as a human or who you are or what you've accomplished. Listen, Paul was one of the most highly educated men of his day. He was a man who was zealous as a Pharisee. He was zealous toward the law, but he wasn't right hearted about things. And he thought he was doing God a favor by persecuting Christians. But one day he had an encounter with God and over the rest of his life he began to see by the Holy Ghost his true identity. And he said all the things that were basically achieved by Him. He said, I count those as loss because anything he had won for himself, it would not make him what God wanted him to be and what God had for him. So I want you to know, don't rest back on anything you've accomplished for yourself and say, wow, this is my identity. No, it's who we are in him and who he made us to be. And I would say this, we are. He is the same to all of us and we are all the same in Him. What's this mean? It gives us an even playing ground that we all are the same in Him. He loves us all the same. He's made all that, all that he is is available to all of us the same. But you say, well, if he's the same to us, how come others lives look more blessed than mine? Well, because we have to move into what he's made us to be by faith. And so however much we're Walking in faith. However much we're using our faith, the more we exercise our faith, the more we'll partake of who we are in Christ. The less we use our faith, the less we'll partake of who we are in Christ. But all of Christ belongs to everyone the same. Every believer in Christ has the exact amount of privilege, the exact same privilege, same, same benefits as anyone else. No other preacher, no, no anybody else has ever received more of Christ than you have. He's the same to all of us. But it's up to us to employ our faith to lay hold of and see ourselves as he made us to be. And so that's what I wanted. For us to understand it's not who we are in us, but how does God see us? What does God say about us? Who have we been made to be in Him? And we need to, if I could say, build that up in our understanding. We need to build that up in our spirit, establish that more firmly in our spirits. Because we have to understand this. Who we are in Christ is the foundation of our redemption. That we, we experience more fully all that God provided for us when we know who we are in Christ. Now, in the previous episode, we looked at Galatians, chapter 2 in verse 20, when Paul wrote, and he said, I am crucified with Christ. Now think of that. What's he talking about? He's talking about the man without Christ. The old man, who he was before he met Christ. He said, that man's crucified with Christ. So what's that mean? Anything that the old man did is not to follow us in the new life. All of that has been crucified, left behind. And we're not trying to feel better about who we were before we met Christ. Because even if a person were completely successful in their life before Christ, it's still not enough to get them to heaven. It's still not enough to make them part of the family of God. So we cannot rest on anything we were. And that if we can't, if we can't credit ourselves for the good things we've done, then we can't discredit ourselves by the wrong things we did before we were Christ. Because all of it's worthy of one thing being crucified. Any, any man outside of Christ, the best thing that can happen to him is he's crucified with Christ. And what happened when Christ was crucified? He died on that cross. What's that mean? Everything you were before Christ, God counted as dead. And what happens to Dead things. You bury them. Jesus was buried. So what? We were crucified. All that old man died with Christ was buried with Christ. Why? So that we could have a new life. So that when we. He was raised, we were raised. But the old man wasn't raised. The new man is raised. The Word tells us that we were crucified with Christ. Old things are passed away. All things have become new. When did the old things pass away? When they were crucified with Christ. And so we have to see ourselves as the Word shows us. This is so important to one that lives in Christ. I am crucified with Christ. The old man. All the components of failure. Listen. In the old man was every ingredient to ensure your failure, and that was crucified with Christ. But every ingredient to ensure your success as a new man that's in you now. And so in the flesh is everything that can cause failure. But in the new, in the. In the spirit. Spirit of man, in the new life in Christ is everything to ensure our success because he's the author of it all. Amen. So again. Galatians 2, verse 20. Paul said, I am crucified with Christ. Do you know? You can say, Pastor Nancy. I know that's there. I've heard it preached. I've seen it. I've read it. But it doesn't seem real to me. How do we make it real? Say it. Say the old man. What I used to be is crucified with Christ. That means anything of the past can't trouble me anymore today in the present. Anything that the devil, the accuser, the brethren, would try to bring up about my past to accuse me with. Or what about this? What about old habits, bondages and addictions that we might have allowed in our life before we were born again, that they're not empowered to travel with us into the new life? So what's that mean? We're free from anything that the old man committed? And you say, well, Pastor Nancy, I don't know. You know, I still deal with certain addictions and bondages. You know why you deal with them? Because you haven't yet discovered that those died when you were crucified with Christ. So you can. You can begin to see those as dead to you. You can talk to them as though they're dead. And so this is why it was so important Paul made this confession. I am crucified with Christ. And that's what you need to say. The old man and everything that tripped up the old man. The sin, nature, the weaknesses, the faults, the failures, the Bondages. They were crucified with Christ, and I refused to let them live with this, with me as a new man in Christ. So you are to build that truth in you. I am crucified with Christ. Look at this. He says, nevertheless, I live. What's he talking about now? The new man is living. The old man's dead. The new man is living. And he said, yet not I, but Christ lives in me. So the life of Christ is the life of the new man, that everything that makes up Christ, that's who he is. That's who he is in us. And so we're living now based on who he is, not based on who we used to be, because who we used to be is crucified with Christ already. So now we see ourselves as, I'm one with him. He's in me. And the life I now live, it's the Christ life because he is the ability, he is the strength. He is the he is. What is the expression of this new life? So Paul says, yet not I, but Christ liveth in me and the life which I now live in the flesh or while I'm on this earth, I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me. So Paul is saying this. I have faith in what Jesus did for me. I was crucified with him. And that is true by faith in my life. So we see this, that the great transaction of Calvary was not just a place of shame, but it was a place of victory. And when Jesus cried, it is finished. He was not crying that in defeat, he was crying that in triumph, that that was our triumph when he said, it is finished. And so we need to recognize in Christ I'm a new creature in Christ. And anything that of the old man has been triumphed over by the new man in Christ. And when. When Jesus rose from the grave, he did not just. He didn't just come up for him, he came up, brought us with him into this new life. So I want us to see something. Let's go. Well, let me state this. The place of Calvary that looked like defeat, as I said, was really the place of triumph. And the traditional church world so much of the time just sees it as a place of shame and suffering, but they don't see really the deeper meaning of it. It's what Calvary meant for us, not just for Jesus, but what it meant for us. Calvary was God's divine way to get his Son into hell and defeat the devil on his own territory. That's the genius of God, the devil thought, when Jesus died on that cross, we have won. But what he didn't realize, he just entered into his undoing. Because Calvary was God's divine way of Jesus entering hell. And darkness fell on his own territory. It wasn't Satan's victory when Jesus died at the cross. It was his humiliation. And Jesus went to hell and defeated Satan on his own territory. So stripped him. I want us to see something. Let's go to First Corinthians, chapter two. First Corinthians, chapter two and verse six. And this is the King James translation. First Corinthians, chapter two, verse six. It says this. Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect. What's this word perfect mean? It means mature. Those who are spiritually mature were able to say some richer further things to people who are more mature in spiritual things. Yet not the wisdom of this world. Look at this. The world has a wisdom. We're not talking about that because that's faulty wisdom. It is not enduring wisdom. But it says this. He says, howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect, yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world that come to naught, or another word, another translation says come to nothing. Look at verse seven. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the world unto our glory, which none of the princes of the world knew. For had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. What's this mean? Is that Satan did not understand what was going to happen to him when Jesus died. If he knew, he never would have. He would have never enraged the people to cry for Jesus crucifixion. But he thought he was winning something. When they cried out crucify and they crucified him, he thought he won. But that place became his undoing. And I want you to know that when Jesus went to the cross, it was the undoing of the old man for you. It was the undoing of the price that really you were to pay. Jesus paid it. Now, when we recognize that Jesus went to hell to defeat Satan in our behalf, that that makes us to understand we're no longer troubled by fear. We're no longer harassed because Jesus defeated all of that for us. Now, Jesus didn't just get us out of the prison of hell. He broke off every shackle, every bondage, everything that would ever hold us back. It wasn't just getting out of and getting free from hell. It was getting free from anything that hell would try to hinder or hold us back with. You know, whenever if someone were in prison and they were pardoned, you know, if a governor put out some kind of pardon toward a prisoner, they don't go to that prisoner and say, you can get out, but you have to keep the rules of the prison. But you have to keep the certain things of the prison with you in your new life. No, when you're pardoned, none of it is attached to you anymore. So when Jesus, when we were crucified with Christ, none of what bound us, none of what tripped us up, none of what held us back, none of what defeated us came with us in this new life. And you have to understand that, well, my goodness, we're just scratching the surface. But we will invite you to to join us next time because we're going to keep finding out what it means to be one with Christ and to have his life on the inside of us and living the life he authored for us. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.
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To watch or listen to today's message and other messages by Nancy Dufresne, visit dufresneministries.org In Nancy Dufresne's book Faith in the Power of God, she teaches how God wants us to know his power that is in our direction. It belongs to us. We cannot live the life God authored for us without his power. Order this book now@DefrainMinistries.org. Make plans to join us at World Harvest church in Marietta, California for our Holy Ghost Meetings 2026 from January 11th through the 15th, services will be Sunday through Thursday at 10am and 7pm for more information and to register for in person attendance, please visit our website@DefrainMinistries.org.
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I want you to know that every single person in this world needs a Savior. And the greatest thing of all is that we have one. But this Savior must be welcomed. This Savior must be received. And it's so easy to receive Jesus as the Savior. The Word says that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now do that with me. Say Jesus, I receive you as my Savior. Come into my heart and be the Lord of my life, and I'll live for you all the days of my life. God bless you.
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On this cd, Confessions of Healing, Nancy Dufresne begins by briefly teaching on how to speak God's Word to release the faith that's in your heart. Then she begins to lead in Confessions for Healing from the Scriptures, allowing time for the listener to repeat them after her. If you or someone you know is in need of healing, this CD will be a blessing to you. Order today at defrainministries.org if you need.
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Shop, Nancy Dufresne's books and other products, as well as Jesus the Healer merchandise on our website@jesusthehealer.org or call us at 951-696-9258 to place your order today. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request, or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of dufresne Ministries for making this production possible. We invite you to join us at World Harvest church, home of Dufresne Ministries in Murrieta, California, located at 23109 Palomar Street, Murrieta, California. This is a word and spirit at Church. Join us in person or online Sunday mornings at 10am and Tuesday nights at 7pm Pacific Time. For more information go to defrainministries.org.
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We'Re excited to announce a new worship album called in youn glory by Grant DeFresne. For more ways to listen to in youn Glory, scan the QR code on your screen, but I believe you died.
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So that you could.