Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast

Episode 920 | In Christ I Can, Part 160
Date: January 9, 2026
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Overview

This episode is part of Nancy Dufresne’s long-running "In Christ I Can" series, focusing on the spiritual realities and practical implications of being "in Christ." The centerpiece is Galatians 2:20, exploring the believer's new identity, authority over past bondages, and the practical enforcement of Christ's victory in everyday life. The teaching aims to renew the listener’s mind, strengthen faith, foster expectation, and instruct in handling spiritual opposition by standing firm in the finished work of Jesus.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Power and Presence of God for Healing

(00:10 - 00:52)

• Nancy begins with an assurance that God's healing power is always present, even in sickrooms and hospitals.
• Participation involves actively receiving: “Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now. From the top of my head to the soles of my feet.” (~00:36)

2. New Identity in Christ

(00:52 - 06:00)

• Nancy revisits Galatians 2:20: “I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless, I live…”
• Believers’ old lives—marked by weakness, bondage, addiction—have ended; everything negative is outside of Christ, but in Christ: no sickness, pain, or lack.
• Mind renewal: “When pain comes, we say, no, you don’t. Because in Christ, pain cannot be.” (03:09)
• Expectation shapes experience: expect to live symptom-free, debt-free, and full of wisdom.

3. Enforcing Redemption: Not Passivity, But Authority

(06:00 - 14:00)

• Story of a minister instructing someone: “Get up tomorrow and expect no symptoms.” (~05:20)
• Change what you expect; act and respond as one in Christ.
• "Just because you can still see the Egyptians doesn’t mean you’re back in Egypt." (~06:30) — illustration of the Israelites: even if trouble appears, you’ve been delivered.

4. Dealing With Persistent Symptoms and Old Bondages

(08:30 - 14:15)

• Symptoms and negative experiences try to “violate your place in Christ,” but do not define your standing.
• Analogy of the Hebrews at the Red Sea: “What was a delivering place for God’s people became a burial place for the enemy.” (10:30)
• The importance of declaring and enforcing your freedom: “The things that troubled you in the past cannot live with you in your new life.” (11:15)

5. Living from a Position of Victory (Not for Victory)

(14:15 - 18:40)

• Christ’s victory is finished; Christians are called not to fight for victory, but from it: “We are not part of a warring army. We’re part of an occupying army. Jesus won the victory.”
• The distinction between enforcing and striving: “We move from pleading to reigning.” (~17:10)
• Christian battle is "the good fight of faith," not a fight with sin, sickness, or poverty.

6. Practical Enforcement of Spiritual Law and Authority

(18:40 - 22:46)

• Law enforcement analogy: laws exist, but must be enforced, just like spiritual truth in a believer’s life.
• “You’re the law enforcement officer in your own life.” (20:52)
• Regular use and consistency in exercising authority is vital; consistency keeps things in order, as with parenting.

7. Resisting Spiritual Lawlessness by Authority

(22:46 - 26:00)

• If believers don’t enforce their God-given rights, “lawlessness” (demonic interference, disorder) arises.
• Faith and authority must be exercised daily as custodians of our own lives.
• Resting in victory: “We exercise our authority not from a place of warring against the devil…but from a place of rest.” (24:48)

8. Clarifying Spiritual Warfare: Wrestling vs. Fighting

(25:05 - 26:50)

• The term "wrestle" (Ephesians 6) means to be unmovable: to refuse to be pushed off the ground of victory.
• Jesus gives authority to “step over” opposition — “step over and keep going,” don’t stop to address every attack. (26:01)
• Quote from Kathryn Kuhlman: “This train’s moving too fast to just stop and throw rocks at barking dogs.” (~26:16)

9. Every Believer’s Authority

(26:50 - 28:45)

• All believers have the same authority in Christ—not just pastors.
• Testimony: pastor delivered from addiction, oppression tried to reappear but was dismissed by affirming his new identity.

10. Maintaining Victory: Mind Renewal and Speaking the Truth

(28:45 - 30:30)

• Key to standing: renew your mind daily, speak the truth ("I've been raised over that...I'm dead to it.").
• Final encouragement: Sin doesn’t have the power to take out the believer—unless deceived or authority is neglected.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “What we expect is what our faith is on. So we need to recognize this — I’m in Christ and I expect no pain. I’m in Christ and I expect no unpaid bills.”
  – Nancy Dufresne (04:10)

• “Just because you can still see the Egyptians doesn’t mean you’re back in Egypt.”
  – Holy Spirit to Nancy Dufresne (06:30)

• “We are not part of a warring army. We’re part of an occupying army. Jesus won the victory.”
  – Nancy Dufresne (15:40)

• “You’re the law enforcement officer of your life. It’s up to you to enforce the victory that Jesus made yours.”
  – Nancy Dufresne (20:52)

• “We exercise our authority not from a place of warring against the devil...but from a place of rest.”
  – Nancy Dufresne (24:48)

• “This train’s moving too fast to just stop and throw rocks at barking dogs.”
  – Kathryn Kuhlman (quoted by Nancy, 26:16)*

• “Sin never took out any of my children... what took them out is they did not start their day with me. They did not renew their mind to who they were in Christ.”
  – God to Nancy Dufresne (29:54)

Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:10 – Receiving and declaring God’s healing power
• 00:52 – Introduction of main teaching: New creation in Christ
• 05:20 – Testimony and principle of not expecting symptoms
• 06:30 – “Egyptians in sight” analogy (freedom vs. former bondage)
• 10:30 – Red Sea delivers God’s people, destroys their enemies
• 14:15 – Shifting from striving to reigning in victory
• 17:10 – Defining the Christian’s only battle: “the good fight of faith”
• 20:52 – Law enforcement analogy for spiritual life
• 24:48 – Exercising authority from a place of rest
• 26:01 – Authority to “step over” and keep going
• 26:16 – Kathryn Kuhlman’s quote about focus and opposition
• 29:54 – God’s insight on mind renewal and overcoming sin

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne’s message in this episode is a faith-filled, practical guide for Christians on living out their union with Christ. She stresses the necessity of mind renewal, faith, expectation, and consistently using spiritual authority—not to win a victory, but to enforce the one already won. Through vivid analogies, scripture, and testimonies, listeners are urged to stop fighting battles already won and instead reign, rest, and rule as those in Christ.

For further resources and teachings, visit dufresneministries.org.