← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now.
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From the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today for Jesus the healer. Come on in and get your Bible and get something to take notes on and follow along with us. Because we're believing God for answers and for your life. And how many of you know that really we're to be living days of heaven on earth? The Christian life is not to be one that is lived with crisis, to crisis and tragedy, to heartbreak and struggle and difficulty. If it is, we're doing it wrong. But the good news is we're invited to learn how to do it best. And so we've been in this series called In Christ I Can. And we're teaching who we are. Because to go further than where we're at, we have to gain greater revelation. And when we're struggling with something, when we're struggling to go past a certain point in our life, it's not that we necessarily need to try harder. It's that we just need further revelation of who we are, who Christ has made us to be, who he is in us and who we are in Him. Listen, God, the knowledge of who we are in Christ will bring us into the highest order of faith. Faith is no struggle when we recognize who we are in Christ. Because Colossians 2, 9, the Living Bible Translation says, for in Christ there is all of God in a human body. So you have everything when you have Christ. And you are filled with God through your union with Christ. And he is the highest ruler with authority over every other power. How many of you know the devil is always trying to present himself as the highest ruler? Well, he's not. And circumstances aren't, and symptoms aren't, and lack isn't. None of that is greater than Him. And he has authority over every other power. And therefore we're in him. And we have authority over every other power that would come against our life. Listen, who we are in Christ is the wisdom of God. For the new believer, the wisdom of God is who he has made us to be. And in Proverbs it talks about that wisdom is the principal thing. So I could say this. Who we are in Christ, who He's made us to be, is the principal thing. That's what we need to find out. And the believer's inheritance in Christ is the wisdom of God. And so who we are in Christ is the foundation of our redemption. Listen, if we don't lay that foundation in our life solidly, it's going to affect how our lives can be built. But we need this broad foundation under our. Under the structure of our life so that we know who we are in Christ. We're righteous. We have been made. We have been made to rule and reign in this life. And we're not to live under guilt, shame, condemnation, because that doesn't belong to the person that's in Christ. Why is that? Because the blood of Jesus cleansed it all. To see ourselves as God sees us, we must see ourselves in Him. The only way we're going to see ourselves in him is we have to find ourselves in the Word. When we see these scriptures that say in him, this is who we are, we have to build that in us. Because our true identity is in Him. It's not in outward distinctions, it's not in our job, it's not in our profession, it's not in a role we play, it's not in a family role. Our true identity is in him. And that is an unchanging identity. And it's always my, if I could say this, my interest is to teach people to mature, to grow up and not remain spiritual babies because babies get pushed around by the devil. And to stay safe, we grow up and we find out who we are in Christ, then the devil cannot work anything he wants to against us anytime he wants to. So what does that mean? To grow up? We need to grow up spiritually. And if we're not careful, people will just deal with Christians on the soulish arena. Well, you know, we are a spirit. We have a soul and we live in a body. We need to be skillful at all three of those. But I want you to know it's our spirit man that's to rule, not our soulish man. And I don't minister to people to keep them at the level of the soulish arena, at their mind, their will and the emotions is what comprises a soul. Because in the mind of man. There's not the stuff to lead your life in the emotions of man. There's not the stuff to lead your life in the will of man. We have to bring that into agreement with the will of God. And the will of God is made known to our spirits. But if we will live being led by our spirits, God is dealing with us through our spirit. It affects our soul and it is to be carried out through the body. But we are spirit beings and that is the feature of us that is like God. God said, let us make man in our image. And the word says that God is a spirit. So we are spirit beings. And in our spirit is everything needed that we can live out the life that in the plan that God planned for us. If people just talk out of their soulish arena, talking about the past, talking about bad experiences, and they say, well, I've got to talk it out, no, that's really letting it in. Because what you refer to, what you acknowledge is what is going to get entrenched in our lives. We need to be talking about who we are in Christ, who he made us to be, that the blood of Jesus put our lives as though we had never missed it. And so we need to talk about what he did for us. If we, if we talk, if we, if we talk about the soulish arena all the time trying to fix the soul, we're trying to fix the old man. And I want you to know that the old man is crucified. It is dead and buried with Christ. We are not trying to fix the old man. God didn't even try to fix the old man. He made us a new man, a new creature in Christ. And the old has passed away. That's what God did. It's passed away. And so if we just live on the soulish arena, never really finding out who we are in Christ, then the devil will beat the believer up badly. Because the mind, the soulish arena is Satan's arena. He's always launching attacks against the soul. Yes, we have to be skillful at disciplining the thought life, recognizing this thought, if it didn't come from God, I'm casting it down. I refuse to entertain it in my thought life. I refuse to turn it over in my thought life. But if a Christian will find out who they are in Christ, that fixes everything in life. Now listen to that statement that when we find out who we are in Christ, if we'll find out what belongs to us because we're in Christ, if we'll find out what we can do because we're in Christ, that fixes everything. You fix life's, life's problems through who you are in Christ. You don't fix it through the soul trying to get past bad memories or hurts. All that stuff just needs to be put under the blood and just turned a page and go on. And you say, well, Pastor Nancy, a lot of bad things have happened to me. I'm not making light of that. But I'm saying that the blood of Jesus is so great and so much stronger that there's no reason to live thinking of and being pushed around by that which is lesser. Our past. The blood of Jesus put it back as though we never missed it. It put it back as though we had never been off course. And I want you to know it gives us a brand new start. Amen. Now, when Christians listen, we have the authority that when the enemy opposes us, remember what Jesus said. He said, behold, I give you power, or the word is authority, to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy. And nothing shall by any means hurt you. No means that the devil throws at you, no strategy, no decoy, no way of operating that he throws at you will hurt you if you will tread on that which is opposing you. Now notice you say, well, I've seen Christians and I've even seen them myself. I've seen Christians that look like their lives were hurt. Why is that? Because they didn't tread on serpents and scorpions. They stopped and they just. If I could say this, they lingered in a tragedy. They lingered over an opposition. They lingered in a place of difficulty instead of treading on it and keeping going. The words, when I looked up the definition, tread on it says this. Step over and keep going. So Jesus said, behold, I give you authority to tread over anything that comes up in your path and keep going past it. I love something that one preacher said that they were on the forefront of ministry years ago and they received much opposition and much, many people that thought that their ministry, you know, that they weren't right and that they, they had a healing ministry and people fought the healing ministry. And I love something that's meant that this minister said, said this train is moving too fast to stop it and throw rocks at barking dogs. Well, I want you to know anything that the devil throws at our life, any opposition, any test and trial is nothing but a barking dog. So just, just don't slow down. You're doing just to give attention to the dog that's barking at you. Have you ever noticed that if there's dogs barking by a train track and a train comes by, that train keeps moving, it leaves. It leaves those barking dogs in the past, it leaves them behind. I want you to know that God is authorizing you, that when tests and trials show up, just be a doer of the Word. Take your authority over those and just keep going. Don't stop and stop and spend any time with that barking dog. Just keep advancing. And that's what really treading on means. It means moving forward. So Jesus said, behold, I give you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy. And when you're treading on them, when you're moving past them, nothing shall by any means hurt you. But if you're gonna stop and linger, then they can affect you. And so we're not to put up with something, we're to resist it. Now, why is it that so many Christians put up with things they should be resisting? Because I know this. What we don't resist has permission to stay. And I know this, that God will allow us to have everything we're okay with. Why are some people okay with having things out of order in their life? Spiritually, mentally, physically, materially? They don't push back against that. Why is that? It's for one reason. They lack fullness. We have to be full of the Word so that we are stirred up to stand our ground against opposition. So people will say, well, you know, I know that I've let the devil do this in my life, and let the devil do that. Why did we do that? Listen, I've done that at times. Why is that the case? Why did we let the devil, if I could say this, get too much movement in our life. It's because we were less than full. If we'll be full of the Word, we will be stirred up to take our stand against the enemy. We have to stay full of the Word to live the life Christ authored for us. So that's why we're teaching you who we are in Christ. I want you to know you are in Christ. If you're born again, you are in him, and he's in you. And you don't have to try to become that. He's the One that delivered us from the kingdom of darkness. And God translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son. We are in Christ. So all of our inheritance is to be experienced. And it's experienced by thinking about it, believing it, speaking it, and acting as one in Christ. If we act as one outside of Christ, Talk as one outside of Christ. When we say, I don't know what I'm going to do, well, Christ in you knows what to do. You say, I don't know what to do about these children. I don't know what to do about that wayward child. I don't know what to do about my health. I don't know what to do about my finances. When we say that we're talking as one outside of Christ. What we are to say, no matter what shows up, Christ in me knows what to do and I will know what to do in the face of that situation. We are not to talk as one outside of Christ, we are to speak as one in Christ. Amen. Because that takes us out of a position of being a victim and we're taking our victory seat so we don't have to try to become in Christ. You are in Christ. If you're born again, you already have an inheritance. Now it's just spending that drawing on it. And I could say this, it's a voice activated inheritance that we have to declare some things. I like what one minister said. They said a silent Christian is a failing Christian because we have to exercise our authority. Can I say this? That if you have a house full of children and the parent is sitting there silent, there's a lot of things going on in that house that shouldn't be going on. When the child gets out of order, that parent better speak up and say something. That that parent better get up out of the chair and do something. And so if we just sit back and we're silent in the face of opposition, we're going to fail. And you say, well, Jesus is in me. I can't fail. Well, if we don't cooperate with the one who's on the inside of us, then the enemy will work his plan against us. When people pour in them the revelation of who they are in Christ, that will wash out wrong thinking and it will wash out wrong speaking. And I could say this, it will wash out wrong behavior. Many times people are just trying to behave better when they just need to find out who they are in Christ. When you find out, wait a minute. In Christ, nothing shall lord it over me. Sin shall not lord it over me. Bondages can't lord it over me. Addictions can't lord it over me. Anything that troubles my life, my family, my body, my finances, that they are not authorized to push me around because I am in Christ. And when you resist that because you are in Christ and you stand on the Word, then that will Change and how you respond to things in life. You know, Jesus didn't just come to give us better behavior. He came to give us a new nature. We have the nature of God. We have the life of God. And our behavior is reflected by now that God nature that's on the inside of us. Many times people are trying to do better when they really need further revelation. And I want to read to you John 15 in verse 3. This was Jesus speaking. And he said, now you are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. So know this, that every time we speak the Word that is a. It is a cleansing agent that you don't have to try to clean up your behavior. Speak the Word and just do the Word. I was listening to one minister friend of mine and they. They were so precious in the story they were telling. They were talking about how with their spouse that they were so touchy, that they were so touchy toward their spouse. They were, you know, if the spouse didn't acknowledge their birthday or their anniversary, that they would just get so touchy and they'd just sit in their room and act depressed all day. But yet then they began to feed on First Corinthians 13, which talks about the love of God, that love is not touchy. Well, whenever that feeling of being touchy would try to rear up, they just didn't try to do better. They spoke better. What they did is they went and they spoke the Word and said, love. Love is not touchy. Love is kind. Love is patient. What did they do? They laid the word on that situation. Many times. People are trying to get past bad experiences. They're trying to get past shame of the past. They're trying to get past, you know, the guilt of making wrong decisions. There's no sense in doing that. You're clean through the Word. What's that mean? Speak the Word in the face of those things. Don't just try to do better. Speak better and the Word will produce in your life. Can I say this? There are people who. They don't get struggles, past struggles of flesh. They're just trying to do better. But they can't seem to get past the struggles. Well, you have to lay the Word on it. You only get past these things that will be hindrances to your life by speaking the Word, holding to the Word and being a doer of the Word. Can I say this? The Bible calls that the Word of God is a seed. When God sows his Word in our spirits, it's in seed form. So what's that Mean we have to water that seed, we have to take care of that seed, that we have to nurture that seed so that it will grow up and produce a harvest. Many times people are saying, well, you know, I'm just trying to get rid of symptoms. You don't need to get rid of symptoms. All you have to do is sow the healing word in you and the healing word will grow up and produce a. A harvest of healing in your life. So what am I saying? We can't get past anything that tries to hinder us or hold us back apart from doing the Word, being a doer of the word, speak the word. Because that's what Jesus said in John 15:3. Now you are clean through the Word. Look at this which I have spoken unto you. It's the spoken word that puts things in order in our life. It's the spoken word that shuts out the wrong thing, and it's a spoken word that receives the right thing. So if I could say this, the truth is what God is, that God has already put us on the other side of opposition. People are trying to get on the on the other side of opposition when really the truth is that we have been raised and seated with Christ. What's that mean? We're already on the other side of opposition. We need to speak the Word and not speak the flesh. We need to speak the Word and not speak our feelings. We need to speak the Word and not speak the past and experiences and talk about shame and talk about things of the old man. But we're to talk about the new man, because the new man is raised and seated with Christ in heavenly places. The new man is in Christ and Christ is in us. I would say this to you. When people are facing difficulties and they're saying, pastor Nancy, I'm just trying to get past this problem. Can I tell you? The promise of God's Word has to be greater to you than the problem you're facing. You have to be more mindful of the promise than you are of the problem. And that's when the problem will lose its sway over you. So we continually hold the promise before our flesh, before our mind, and before any circumstance that would oppose us. Trying does not put an end to struggle. It only makes us more aware of the struggle. Now listen to that. Trying does not put an end to struggle. It only makes us more aware of the struggle. It's revelation and acting on the Word of God, the revealed Word, acting on that, that puts an end to struggle. I remember years ago, my goodness, I would have been in my mid-20s. And I woke up one night in the middle of the night and every flu symptom was on my body. Now when I went to bed, there were absolutely no, there were no, I didn't have any symptoms of flu at all. But I woke up about 11 o' clock at night and every flu symptom was on my body. And so I was laying there and anybody ever done this, you half heartedly resist. You just lay in bed and you comfortably resist, but your heart's not really engaged, you're just going through the motions. Devil, I resist. You take your hands off me. But you're not really, if I could say this, engaging your spirit. You're not stirring yourself up. And so I was laying there and doing this half hearted resisting. And the spirit of God spoke to me and he said this to me, he said, now would be a good time to do what you preach. And I go, oh yeah, I guess it would. So I had to get up out of that bed. And the reason I got out of the bed because my body wanted to be in that bed so bad, because I felt so, I felt so bad. So I got up and I walked down the stairs and I started walking around my coffee table in the family room and I started saying, I am of the household of faith. And in the household of faith there's no symptoms in the household of faith, there's no sickness in the household of faith, there is no defeat in the household of faith, there is no one that feels bad. So I refuse to eat out of a different household. Symptoms come from a different household than the household of faith. And I will not be found with something that belongs to a different household. This does not belong to my father's household and I'm not taking it. So I resisted it with my words. And then after that I just said, father, I thank you. And I started worshiping and praising and worshiping and praising, not to try to get something, but to make myself mindful that I am already on the other side of this. Because the victory has already been made mine. So just for about 20 minutes or so, I'm just walking around that table praising God and worshiping God that I am already the healed, that there are no symptoms in the household of faith, therefore there's no symptoms in me. And all of a sudden it landed in my spirit. I knew in my spirit I have this, I just knew it in my spirit. Now my body still felt bad. My body still felt every symptom. And so I thought, well, because I have laid hold of this. Now it's about. It was around midnight, about that time. And so I thought, well, I ought to be back in bed. So I go to walk up the steps to get back into bed. And the moment my foot hits the first step, this thought came to me. Well, if I were you, I would stay up and I would resist it till every symptom is gone. But I thought, wait a minute. On the inside of me, I know I have it. I don't have to. I don't wait for my body or symptoms leaving to tell me that I'm healed. The Word tells me I'm healed. And I received that into my spirit. And I said, no, devil, that's you. You're wanting me to try to. You're wanting me to try to do more, to get something that I know I've already got. So I just ignored that voice and I went back up to bed and I got in bed and I laid down with every flu symptom on me. And at one o' clock in the morning, about an hour later, I was awakened because I felt someone touch my shoulder. And when I woke up, felt someone touch my shoulder. At that instant, every single symptom left my body. Whether that was Jesus that touched me or an angel that touched me, I don't know. But I just know this. When I acted on the revelation, I got up out of that bed and I resisted. And when I did, that had to fall off of me and I became a partaker of my inheritance. Listen, the inheritance that is yours in Christ, you possess it, but you have to be a partaker of it. How do you become a partaker of it? You say it, you act on it. You act as though it's true. Can I tell you, somebody asked a man, a general in the. In the body of Christ, years ago. He said, what is faith? This man who was sitting, who was laying on a sick bed, asked this general, this preacher man of God said, what is faith? And that preacher said this. He said, faith is acting like the word of God is true. And I want you to know that's really such a simple, clear, truthful definition of what is faith. I want you to know if we are in him and we need to act like we're in him, we need to think like we're in him, we need to respond as one in Him. And because we're in him, that everything that's good, that's in him, we. That's our inheritance. And if it's not our inheritance from Christ, we refuse to take it. And so I would say this. Don't be silent about your inheritance. You don't have to earn it, but you do become a partaker by talking about it and declaring that this is mine in Christ. This is what belongs to me because I'm in Him. Amen. Well, I want you to know that the life lived in Christ gives us the best life and we are to live as rich as we are. So every day of your life say, today he's in me, I'm in Him, and I'm going to allow the Greater One that's on the inside of me to move and manifest through me. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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To watch or listen to today's message and other messages by Nancy Dufresne, visit Dufresne Ministry. In Nancy Dufresne's book Faith in the Power of God, she teaches how God wants us to know his power that is in our direction. It belongs to us. He has made his power ours. Whether or not power flows depends on us, not God. God intends that every need we face be met with his power. We cannot live the life God authored for us without his power. Order this book now@DefrainMinistries.org make plans to join us at World Harvest church in Marietta, California for our Holy Ghost Meetings 2026 from January 11th through the 15th. Services will be Sunday through Thursday at 10am and 7pm for more information and to register for in person attendance, please visit our website@dufresneministries.org. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible. Nancy Dufresne is the President of World Harvest Bible Training center in Murrieta, California. This is a Word and Spirit Bible school where you will receive impartations and revelations. So whether you're called to the five fold ministry or want to bring a greater supply to your local church, this could be the school for you. We're now accepting. Absolutely. Go to whbtc.org for more information.
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We're excited to announce a new worship album called in youn Glory by Grant Dufresne. For more ways to listen to in youn Glory, scan the QR code on your screen. Jesus.
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Thank you Lord.
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I want you to know that every single person in this world needs a Savior and the greatest thing of all is that we have one. But this Savior must be welcomed. This Savior must be received. And it's so easy to receive Jesus as the Savior. The Word says that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now, do that with me. Say, jesus, I receive you as my sacrifice. Savior, Come into my heart and be the Lord of my life. And I'll live for you all the days of my life. God bless you.