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Fat Joe
What I'm trying to tell y' all is this. Whether y' all don't know it, anytime your music come on this is legendary.
Slim
Oh yeah.
Fat Joe
Every time every time Every time Every time your come on and they can't take that from you. Foreign. What up y'? All? It's Joe Crack, the biggest in the game.
Jadakiss
What's up, y'?
Fat Joe
All.
Jadakiss
It's your boy, Jadakiss. You know what it is. The Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we never let you down. Today's guest, plural, two dynamic groups. When you think of synergy, when you think of chemistry, when you think of camaraderie, when you think of hit makers, when you think of arena shakers, when you think of good individuals that been able to overcome diversity, deal with the ups, deal with the downs. Get rich, get richer. Go through hard times to get it again. Get even richer than richer. 30 plus years in the game. Good skin. I mean. Cause that's important. Ladies and gentlemen, let's make some noise for Mike, Slam, Keisha and Kim on 112 in total. Nobody got better intros than me. That's whack.
Slim
No, that was flop. That was the best flop you got down.
Jadakiss
I mean, yeah, this is what I do.
Keisha
That's weird.
Jadakiss
Thus far, my family, 30 plus years. You're going on tour, you're moving around, you're looking beautiful. Telling people what to expect.
Keisha
Ladies and gentlemen, you know, you can expect that energy, like he said, that synergy, that iconic representation of our hits. The tour is crazy. And listen, so happy for our brothers and just blessed to be a part of this movement for them. Giving them their flowers. 30 years of great music. This is their first headline tour on 12. We gonna get them their flowers, y'. All. And just so honored that our brothers would tap us on the shoulders and say, y' all gotta take this journey with us. And like you just said, Jada, to be able to come back and do this again and again. Thirty years and people still supporting our music and just showing up for us, you know what I mean? So we got those classic records.
Jadakiss
Bangers.
Fat Joe
Bangers even gotta explain. Yeah, they know what it is. Yeah.
Keisha
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Y' all got legendary music that's just feels no way to explain this. It's like, yo, that come on. This. It is what it is.
Keisha
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Then you had the big all over your music. The greatest ever.
Keisha
Yes.
Fat Joe
At the time, you just say, all right, we got Biggie now. You know, you got some historic shit on your hands. You know what I mean? Whenever that music come, what was it like working with Biggie in that day, man?
Slim
Well, you know, both of y', all, man. Yeah, Working with Biggie, that was our biggest. It's like our big brother, man, he would give you the shirt off his back. You know, when 112, we moved to New York City, you know, big shout out To Junior MAFIA and Faith Evans, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, time we got there, they embraced us as family. Even when Big was doing his promo for Ready to Die, man, he would bring us with him, you know what I'm saying, Faith, we was in one ride, Big was in the other, and we were following around and we. We learned a lot of jewels, man. So forever, baby, with them.
Jadakiss
I got different stories for like them that they don't know about.
Fat Joe
Can I hear these stories, man?
Jadakiss
Cause it's usually me I'm ever meeting. Big was that they video shoot in Central Park. It was one degree.
Keisha
Oh, my goodness, the coldest winter.
Jadakiss
It was one of these dam I ever experienced. He's trying to stay warm. These bringing us. We mean Big Puff, they shooting the video. They got that white shin on. Freezing, though. So I'm like, yo, this is like the greatest time in the worst time of my life. At the same time, our first time meeting Big was at their video shooting, Central Park. Then another one of their videos. Was it Kissing you Remix, Big Bad Boy, Picnic, Versace, silk shirts and all sweating. That's also the first time Big her hit him up. Somebody delivered them the thing. And you know what I'm saying? I heard. I listened to it. When he listened to it, he wasn't even mad. He was just really mad about whatever he said about Season Kim. But it wasn't. You would have thought he had smoke coming out of there. I mean, I ain't like that. You said that about.
Fat Joe
You know what's crazy is I was at Harlem, right? This Biggie's on top of the world. He's performing at the State Building. He got that blue polo shirt on.
Jadakiss
Came across the street, the sneaker store.
Fat Joe
So I'm. So I'm. I'm out there right in the crowd. And the dude walked by me in Harlem with a boombox this Big. First off, fuck your bitch in the kicks you came, you get. I was like, I'm looking at Biggie Smalls on stage the first time I heard that record. And the dude walked by with the boombox. And what was bugging me out because the beef was real territorial. It was like, either you from New York or you from la and this is a guy from Harlem. I felt like God did that to me. He just walked by and I knew this shit wasn't going right. The energy wasn't right. I said, damn.
Jadakiss
Didn't pound him out, Ledge?
Fat Joe
No, he was across the street. He was just walking. I just happened to be across the street. He was just playing his favorite rapper, but I was surprised that he was bumping that while this was going on. You know, of course, guys like to get they ass whipped, too. If they come too close, they getting they ass whipped. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I want to tell you, I was on Versus and I'm into it with Ja Rule, and I said something that came out misconstrued. Your sister had came out, and I didn't even know. Hold up. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. That's my girl. I didn't even know she was backstage. He could have brought JLo out and Mary J. I didn't know. I was just in the middle of the shit and they ran with it. But I salute your sister. I told her, sorry, 1,000 times. I tell you the same thing, you know what I'm saying?
Mike
Yo, I thought I was gonna have to pull these out real quick.
Fat Joe
Oh, you.
Keisha
Oh, yeah.
Mike
What the.
Fat Joe
You know, when you say something nice, you take the flag back. We gotta give you an extra side right now when you say something, you know, we take this shit back.
Slim
Take it back.
Fat Joe
But who thought of this? And this was a no brainer. This should have been happening.
Jadakiss
No brainer.
Fat Joe
Is it like timing where you just say, yo, let's come together, let's do this, or who thought of putting y' all together like that?
Mike
Yeah, it was definitely a timing thing. You know what I mean? It was like 30 years. They had 30 years. Case had 30. Big shout out to Case, too.
Fat Joe
Case on the tour, too.
Mike
Case on the tour. Yeah, Case opened that shit up. You know what I mean? So, yeah, so 30 years total.
Jadakiss
30 years I'm at the buy. I'm going there.
Fat Joe
Stop buying a ticket.
Mike
Tickets, bro. Come get out here.
Fat Joe
No, I just told him I'm sneaking in the Brandy and Monica on purpose. Like, I'm not buying a ticket. I'm sneaking in. Them guys be in the back. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, me plus three. I'm going n rushing the show.
Mike
N. We don't.
Fat Joe
I gotta go.
Mike
We don't buy tickets, bro.
Fat Joe
We don't. Yo, you got a problem if you ain't right? Stick close. I'm bum brushing.
Jadakiss
I say move.
Fat Joe
Let's. You're good, you're good, you're good, you're good. I don't even want to go through. Yo, who got the tickets? Who did? Nah, I'm going in now.
Mike
Y' all good.
Fat Joe
Stop.
Mike
Y' all good. But, yeah, that was you know, pretty much an idea that, like, Slim and I wanted to do something really special. And we wanted to bring back that. That 90s nostalgia, you know what I mean? So we're also managed by the same, you know, group, and we were like, yo, aside from that, I know Keith said earlier, you know, she wanted to give 112 their flowers. But we also wanted to give Total their flowers as well, because they have been so influential, not only in just music, but just in fashion and just how a woman is supposed to, you know, be, you know, like a queen is supposed to be in this industry and beyond, man. So they just epitomize what that means, man. So, you know, what better way for us to show that than to just have them out there and then give them their flowers as well? Like they sisters for real. Like, I'll give you a story. Like, I know Keema get tired of me telling the same story. So I used to smoke cigarettes and shit, right? So fucked up.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Mike
So this is when I was Flag at.
Fat Joe
They ain't giving no flag. Don't do that.
Mike
Nah.
Fat Joe
But see the God.
Mike
So sis, she would take the. So we had a show.
Jadakiss
Pow.
Mike
So we had a show with Total. And I was outside already hitting square, right? So, you know, I'm on the block, whatever. Hitting square.
Fat Joe
Boom, boom.
Mike
She comes out like, her motto is, she fight niggas. All right? So that's that. That's her model. Anyway, like, she fighting, nigga, she fighting N. You know, that's off the rip. That's her shit. You know what I mean? So I'm out stalking. So I'm hitting the square.
Fat Joe
Boom, boom.
Mike
She come out of the van. I was like, yo, sis, what's happening? Blow smack the shit right outta my hand. Like, no, off the real. Like, from that point on. From that point on, well, no more cigarettes and shit. So, yeah, that was it.
Fat Joe
So, yes, that's real love, tough love.
Jadakiss
So, yeah.
Fat Joe
Yeah, that's real love, tough love. That was the smartest shit ever happened to you.
Mike
Absolutely.
Fat Joe
You know, with cigarettes. You know, both my parents just passed away, and it was all a product of smoking cigarettes. And my mom's caught cancer early. One thing I could tell you is bullshit. That you can't quit. Come as soon as my mother smoked, found cancer. My father quit. Same damn right. They used to smoke four packs.
Keisha
Done.
Fat Joe
Right, Right. But the damage is done. The is a slow leaker. It's like you got a slow flat. Ten years later, 20 years later, they got that CPO D with, you know, your Lungs get water and all that. The cigarette shit. First of all, you a old nigga smoking a cigarette right now, right? If you in front of a building smoking a cigarette, they know your age, right? You done like, they know, yo, this guy smoking the cigarette, they were smoking the. But she did the right thing for you.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Mike
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Well, Keisha, we all felt like you got rich and just sailed off to the sunset. I felt like, yo, you ain't need this money no more. I felt like, yo, you know, I get jealous of people who could retire. I can't retire. So where you about to do a schloss, right?
Mike
Yo, give me one of those.
Keisha
I, if you will. Reconnected with my king. And being in the industry, it was a really crucial time when it was just my spirit. It wasn't working right with my spirit. And when Omar and I reconnected, he was in la. I had just shortly moved to Smyrna, Georgia. And our plan was we not gonna let this go.
Fat Joe
To where? Smyrna, Georgia.
Mike
Smyrna. Smyrna.
Fat Joe
I've never been there. I've been everywhere. Carl County.
Keisha
So he was living in la. And our plan was to never not realize the blessing of each other, the presence of each other. We wanted to start our family. And for him, he said, I want you to do what your heart desire is. And living in la, seeing kind of how people move, I didn't want our kids to grow up, like, empty. So that was my choice.
Fat Joe
Hollywood, part of la, like the Beverly Hills and all that.
Keisha
No, we in the cut.
Fat Joe
Yeah, but. But the school. That's what they're saying.
Keisha
My kids went to black.
Fat Joe
You want them to have culture.
Keisha
Yes.
Fat Joe
You know, Ciara came in. She lives here now. Cause her husband's the thing. She said she'd take them to the bodega here, let them hear the old man argue with the man behind the bodega. She wanted me.
Keisha
She's like, this is real life.
Fat Joe
She like, we trying to give these people some kind of culture. Because the plan is to have our kids live better than us. But they gotta know, like, my daughter better know not to feed a lion. Estate.
Keisha
That's right.
Fat Joe
Cause your ass is gone now.
Keisha
They gotta have the best of both girls, and they get that. Me from New Jersey, Omar from New.
Fat Joe
York, you know, Smyrna, Georgia, huh? I like like that. I always wanted to live somewhere like that. You know what I'm saying? Some Savannah, some like. Yeah. Never been able to, man. You know, I always been in the. Like, I always want to be like I'm even New York. Miami gotta be hectic. I really wanna chill.
Keisha
So try it. So.
Fat Joe
All right.
Keisha
But you can find a balance. You can find a balance.
Jadakiss
A lot of crazy things throughout this industry.
Fat Joe
I think they know fat joint for 30 years, man. They know the God. Go live somewhere where you can really chill. Who does that?
Slim
I mean, well, you be chilling.
Fat Joe
I'll be chilling.
Keisha
You have to.
Fat Joe
I don't know how to chill.
Keisha
That's where all the pieces. You know what I'm saying? But chilling is not. And then you chill.
Fat Joe
Well, you know what?
Slim
I saw you out there in Miami. I was staying in north Miami. I was in Bale harbor then. I thought, you know, you were. Nah, we had.
Fat Joe
You thought I was chilling.
Slim
I mean.
Fat Joe
I mean, I'm chilling. But let me tell you something.
Mike
Here we go.
Fat Joe
I paid taxes yesterday. I stood home and chilled, right? My ass was in that. My ass was in that Michael Jackson all the. The air machine. I'm in the hyd conical like. Like. I don't know what the. These people be doing, like, paying all the taxes. This is unbelievable. Y. I'm sitting up in there twitching this. My family try to keep me company, and they, like. My family try to keep me company, like, yo, Jo, you want some wings or something? This. That's the only time I ch. When I gotta pay that bill right there. That legendary. What?
Keisha
But it's a good problem to have.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Keisha
That means you're doing something right. You're doing something right.
Fat Joe
So this one you talking about a guy who used to eat free lunch and government cheese.
Mike
Same.
Fat Joe
They got me back, man. They got me. They got me for all the government cheese. These got me. I done bought shitloads of government cheese with my taxes. This crazy government lobster. Yeah. Oh, it's out of control what's happening to the people, you know?
Slim
That's true.
Fat Joe
The one thing they do got is the beautiful music. You guys got timeless music. Like, I sit in my pool, man, in the summer, man. I listen to y' all shit. Back to back to back to back to back.
Jadakiss
How often are performing back to back on y'?
Fat Joe
All?
Jadakiss
Because I know we. We held the statesman now, so I.
Fat Joe
Need a day in between.
Slim
Oh, man.
Mike
Yeah.
Slim
This is so for this year, because of what was going on in the. Just in the world and the country right now. You know, what we wanted to do is, like, we wanted to make sure that, you know, people weren't trying to decide on buying Christmas presents or Thanksgiving dinner and going to concerts, right? You know what I'm saying, so what we did was we scaled back for this year and we overloaded for next year. We want everybody to see exactly what you are getting, you know what I'm saying? We basically putting the sphere touching all six senses inside of theaters, you know what I'm saying? So you're getting. You're definitely getting your money's worth. And next year it'll be, you know, back to back to back for the rest of the 15 or 18 of the shows that we got.
Mike
How many back? How many back to backs?
Fat Joe
We got back to backs. Oh, no, my shit fucked up. I can't do it.
Keisha
That's when you got.
Fat Joe
I'm telling you the truth, I can't do it. Yeah, the man said, I did a three. The triple play. Ain't that some. I keep complaining, but I do three shows in one. I don't give a fuck. I'm going to get the bag. Poca raton here, Club 11, three in the morning.
Slim
You feel me?
Fat Joe
So I did a show. Club 11, man, I ain't gonna lie, was the third show. I didn't have the right energy. Fluidity was like two, three months ago. I ain't have the right energy. And the promoter who books me all the time, great. Club 11. You go to Miami, go to amazing. The man hit me up and was like, yo, man, you ain't had the right energy. I said, next time I'm gonna give you double the show. I'm gonna have that energy. Yeah. And I slept all day.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
When I went to Club 11, like last week, man, I'm bouncing around. I did the whole catalog for the month. Nah, you could, because we ain' they the guys buying. They the hell chopper. You let one of the tell you ain't doing right. You do about four or five. I do about four or five Club elevens a year, right?
Slim
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And when we round that off to the nearest 10, we don't want to that bag up. You don't want that off the table.
Mike
Big told us some man a long time ago, he was like, yo, I'm gonna do matinees from now. I'm gonna do matinees and I'm gonna do a show at night. We was like, bro, you bugging. He was like, nah, if I can get it in, you know, a matinee, like during the day and then one at night, I'm doing that shit for like. What did he. How much he say he was doing them shits for? But he was like, I'm gonna bring.
Slim
No, he was talking about Making a million and fast.
Mike
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was something like. But he. But he gave. He dropping jewels, right? So he was just like, yo, y' all need to do matinees. And I was like, bro, you know, we sing, so we can't really do that shit, you know, like a matinee and a show at night. You know what I mean? You know, but we like, where you going with that shit? You know what I mean? But he was like, yo, I'm doing a mat.
Fat Joe
I saw right after.
Mike
Right after.
Fat Joe
First of all, I'm old, right? Like, like season.
Slim
We seasoned.
Fat Joe
No, no, no. If I got a late show, I'm taking the old man nap. Everything I'm in the car, I'm taking the. I got my shits is calculated. If we're driving to Jersey, I'm sleeping. I want to bring my own pillow. But what I'm saying to you is.
Mike
Yeah, that's some old man right there.
Jadakiss
Rich, how good do I know? Rich, how good do I know?
Fat Joe
Let me explain, Sonny. Because of COVID I don't know if they realized, but they started throwing, like, brunch parties. But I mean, 5,000, like, that was lit. Like, you looking on the ground that. I was like, yo, we could go. We could actually lie to our wife and say we went golfing and we at the brunch. Yo, let me tell you something. Joe can't get away with that. But somebody not famous was in them shits that's coming back. It ain't on me. I ain't go to none of them shits. I'm just telling you.
Jadakiss
Yeah, whatever it did, you finished them.
Fat Joe
Whoever wasn't famous, they were saying they going somewhere to work or whatever. And they was in that brunch. 12 noon was on you home at 4 o'.
Keisha
Clock.
Slim
How about this?
Jadakiss
I got booked at 9 in the morning. It looked like. It looked like.
Fat Joe
You see that? That's all, by the way. No, nine in the morning, dog.
Jadakiss
By the. I pulled up in the spinning. People was coming out, throwing up, getting walked out.
Fat Joe
I want to know they was up from the. Why did they go?
Jadakiss
No, I. That's what I thought. I'm thinking there's nobody in there and this is dead as hash brow, when it is.
Fat Joe
Looked like the million.
Jadakiss
It was crazy at 9. I went on about 10:30. That looked like.
Fat Joe
You hear that? Motive look tonight, I think that worked, right?
Jadakiss
That was the illest I ever been.
Fat Joe
Camilo try to get us to that.
Jadakiss
Not a dude.
Fat Joe
Oh, I be full energy at nine in the Morning. Oh, the char wasn't right, you know.
Jadakiss
The dad gotta be right.
Fat Joe
The job, that thing gotta be people.
Jadakiss
At 10:30 in the morning, which is crazy. I didn't think that could even happen.
Mike
No, no, no.
Jadakiss
They like.
Fat Joe
Yeah, but that's what I'm talking about. They were storing parties like that first thing in the morning, 5, 000 people popping champagne. This, this, those are seasoned folks that came out at that time. They don't want to do that. Three in the morning, two in the morning. You'll be dizzy by the time.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Yes, sir. A normal person, not a rapper who's used to that time. It's three in the morning. I ain't gonna. I'm early.
Jadakiss
I go to the studio in the.
Fat Joe
Morning after the gym.
Slim
See, that's what I'm talking about.
Jadakiss
Okay.
Slim
Hey, I thought it was.
Fat Joe
Are you guys still in the studio? Like, in the studio?
Slim
Yes. Yes.
Fat Joe
So what's that, like a, like the clubhouse?
Slim
Well, like our own studio. We have our own studio, but we're, we're. We love starting, like in the morning.
Mike
Yeah.
Slim
You know? Yeah, because, I mean, your voice is nice and refreshed. You just woke up, you know what I'm saying? We do our little regiment, man. Let's go.
Fat Joe
I think I gotta buy a studio. He in the studio every day. I'm not in the studio.
Mike
Yeah, why not?
Slim
Gotta. Gotta stay positive.
Fat Joe
Too much. Too much life going on, too much money. I go there when it's time. No, I ain't got too much money, no search. No, sir, I ain't got too much time to say. My thing is like, I, I. It sounds whack, but it's like I gotta, like, motivate myself to go to the studio. And before it was like, I'm in the studio every day. I don't care. Now I gotta be like. Like, now I'm in a fucked up position. I told one of my best friends on Earth, Belovey, I'm going to dinner with him tonight. And I've been excited for that all day. Now y' all tell me y' all in Brooklyn bring them this. He ain't going there.
Jadakiss
Six, seven in this show.
Fat Joe
Six, seven. Y' all got me six, seven, over.
Mike
Oh, yeah.
Fat Joe
I'm up. I'm like, damn, I'm going.
Keisha
Can you do early dinner?
Jadakiss
I'm there.
Fat Joe
Yeah, I think it might be an early dinner. What time y' all get on stage?
Keisha
They go on there, 8, 15 for mace. Right?
Mike
We go on at 10.
Keisha
Case.
Fat Joe
I said Mace for Case. Case was the man back in the day. How the ladies love Case. Back in the day. They still. He look like a whole.
Mike
Man.
Slim
If you would have seen.
Jadakiss
He was going crazy.
Slim
They were going crazy.
Fat Joe
I'm trying to say certain ladies. Here you go.
Mike
Let me see which one.
Jadakiss
Get ready, Mike.
Fat Joe
They always bring his name up when we talk about that era is like the Case. Case was outside. Yeah. Yes. Is what I'm trying to take. Certain 80 friends of mine, they'd be like, yo, problem. And like that, you know, you know, he was out there.
Slim
That's okay.
Fat Joe
Face is outside.
Slim
You know, they didn't have social media, so you know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
Thank God we came up in the time with no.
Mike
Amen.
Fat Joe
Social media ruined love. Social media ruined love. Yeah. Yes. My mom's in, Pops. They never had us. No, they ain't. Tampa. They ruined up.
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Right here.
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Let's get to it.
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Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.
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Keisha
But first.
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Fat Joe
My moms and pops didn't have a fucking dollar and they was together for 50 something years and no matter what fucked up she did or whatever the case may be, they worked this out.
Jadakiss
Positive. Pops was around before electricity.
Fat Joe
It was Billy about social media. What I'm saying is thank God we come up at a time where it wasn't social media because they force you to leave your partner now before you discuss with your partner now that yo, I think this ain't working out. They throw the line on the shade room. They like done Joe had an argument in public. It's over. And then now the pressure Coming. Yo, girl, you know, that's why I never did a reality show. Cause I was like, now everybody in your. It's something. You go through something with your wife or your husband, y' all could work that out. Now it's on tv and your friend is giving her advice and that. Yo, I don't know about this shit. He talking like this. I'd have definitely got thrown out of my house if I had a fat joke show. Or the Cartagenas done deal out Miles. Because I'm weird, I'm unorthodox. But my wife understand me. But if you watching on tv, you like him, get rid of him. Girl.
Mike
I feel you on that.
Fat Joe
Everybody accustomed to their partner. Certain people, certain way. You know what I'm saying? But you know that social media, it's hard for the youth. It is. It's a lot of pressure for the youth in every way, shape or form, you know?
Keisha
Same thing as dating, huh? No such thing as dating. Like asking a girl.
Fat Joe
They don't know how to talk to each other.
Keisha
My daughter speaks about that all the time. Like sliding in the dm.
Jadakiss
In and out of being cordial.
Fat Joe
Safe to say it's easier for guys now before you have to jump out the whip and be like, hey, what's up, girl? What's going on? You know, you got that. Had that Luther Van Jors, when you pull up on the whip. So once. Once you get in the whip, that come house, it's not on. They do that now. They take them on a date and they on the phone right next to him.
Jadakiss
Like, you ain't sold it?
Fat Joe
Sure. I think guys are bolder. Younger guys are bolder now through the text than they are on person.
Slim
Yeah, yeah, that could be. Yeah. But you know what's crazy about it is like, the standard is, like, pushed. Because I tell my sons, I'm like, look, do not pay attention. Understand what entertainment. Social media is entertainment. But you got some people who actually live that they'll look at certain people that they look up to and say, oh, she wears this. Oh, that's where they go to.
Fat Joe
Or whatever.
Slim
I require you to take me first time, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna spend about a thousand dollars on dinner. It's gotta be this first way before we even know each other. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
Yeah, that's true.
Mike
Remember the. What's that list that places you couldn't.
Fat Joe
Don't listen.
Mike
Every last one of my.
Fat Joe
Olive Garden. I think the women robbers. I think the women hold up channel biscuits.
Mike
Hey, man, listen. Taco freaking Bell, bro. If she loves you, if she loves you. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Keisha
We want to eat a little healthy.
Jadakiss
You gotta get Taco Bell for a dated.
Fat Joe
See, I never Taco Bell did cvs. I'm fat joke. So I'mma eat steak and lobster every night no matter what. You come along for the ride. I don't give a fuck. Right? But my thing is, I think the women won. Like, they, they won. Why? Because guys, they won? Yes, because the guys are like manipulators and you gonna get over on whoever you gonna get over. So sometimes a girl didn't know her worth back in the day, and before she figured that shit out, you done ran through. You out of here. Now at least now they know through Instagram, they like, yo, this is a Kelly. You want to take me out? This is a Kelly. Her mess. Go work, get your weight up. You know what I'm saying? And these guys, I don't know what the fuck they doing to get the shit. Because it seemed like Everybody got a $20,000 bag on Instagram.
Mike
See, that's the reason why, like, so I got daughters, right? I got two daughters, 18 and a 13 year old. So. So ever since they were little girls, I would always open doors for them. Yes, ma', am. No, ma'. Am. And you know, just so they know, this is the standard. So my 18 year old, like now she. Both my kids, like, they'll sit there and waited like, my nigga, you gonna get this door. Like, you know, it's the look, you know, so. But it's already in their head now. So they know that there's a standard to how I'm supposed to be treated. So that's how, you know, I did it, man, with mine, man. And I would advise and I would encourage any man or any woman that has daughters to like, treat them as if how you want them to be treated when they are in somebody else's. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's definitely Southern hospitality. But it's just I want whomever she ends up with to treat her the same way that I treat her.
Slim
You know what I mean?
Mike
So that's why I'm opening doors. And yes, ma', am, I'm listening. And I'm doing all these things because, you know, raising girls is a lot different, my boy. Like, them dudes like, you know, stop, you know, cut that out. But the girls, you have to, you know, you have to actually listen. And then they could have told you that. Yeah, it was red yesterday. It's blue today. You know, it's the same thing we're talking about. But it's red today. Tomorrow, that shit is blue, okay? And I'm like, babe, we just talked about the same. You know what? I'm a girl, you know, so talk that King talk.
Fat Joe
Saw that King talk. Everything you saw in this industry and life and everything how you deal with.
Keisha
Having a young daughter, I think it's just. It's kind of more like what Prince was saying, Mike. It's what you put what you instill in them is raising them that way to show her what she's deserving of and having real conversations. In our house, we have real conversations. It's always our little lounge room, living room. Comfy in there, you know, got the TV going. We eat together, and you sit down, you have real conversations. Our kids, we have. We've been blessed to have really great relationships with My son, who's 17, and my daughter Kamari, 21, we have real conversations. It's like, talk to your dad. There's some game I can't give you. I can give you what I have as a woman, but there's some game I can't give you that. Your father can give you that. It makes all the sense in the world. And maybe if it don't make sense right now, eventually it will.
Mike
That's right.
Keisha
But just take his word, because that's the first man that she trusts.
Fat Joe
That's right.
Slim
First teacher.
Keisha
But I also think a lot we gotta change what's in the music. Cause that's the driving force of how people show up. How the guy approaches the female, how the male approaches. You know what I mean? How the female approaches what she's expecting. We have real conversations like, nah, that's not fair that they going out. They're 21. They're going out. You expecting the guy to buy you this and buy. Where are you getting the money from? You know? So I think with the music, we still have good music, but we're not vulnerable in our music anymore. We don't talk about love. Like, it's this whole thing, like, with men and women and, you know, the stuff that men. Y' all gotta carry so much and saying y' all can't be a man. A real man is transparent with that partner. He can. He can talk about what his feelings are, you know?
Fat Joe
You know, I just had this conversation with nephew, his son, where he was like, you know, some artists of today, they just wanna get the. Whatever the bag is, if the bag is stupidy hoobity. Yobbity, yobbity. They gonna do that shit for the bag. Yeah, right? We come up a time where we pay homage. We had De La Soul. To me, they're gods. They're fucking legends of all legends. Gods of gods. So when we come, I want my followers or my fans to know, yo, this is fucking royalty, right? And they kind of, like, missing that with the youth, where they just like, it's not about the culture. It's not about the message. It's not about. It's more like. Like, stick them up wherever, you know? And that don't last long, right? And so that integrity is what's missing. And whenever we have the youth, because all the time we doing this, we teaching, right? So that's what this show is all about, teaching. There's people need to hear that, people dealing with that. It's people who need to hear everything we saying, you know, out there who really been following you for 30 years. Following us for 30 years. And they're like, all right, cool. Because everybody dealing. Everybody got teenage daughters, fucking guys coming up in the game.
Mike
It's great that you touched on that, though, bro. Cause that's one thing that we. One of the main reasons why we wanted to do this tour outside of, you know, getting at that bread. But real rap, there is something to be said about the way that we treat our culture and we treat our artists that is seasoned, if you will, versus, like, rock music. And talk slow to him, Mike.
Jadakiss
We don't age out over here.
Fat Joe
Clack don't crack.
Mike
We don't age out. Like, we get better over time. And it's like, if you're a certain age, in R B and in hip hop, you're considered old or antiquated or whatever. But, you know, in rock world right now, Aerosmith right now, if they was to like, yo, we're going on tour right now, that shit'll be sold out in, like, two minutes. Forget about it.
Fat Joe
You know what's okay? You know what I mean?
Mike
And so we got to give. Yeah, go ahead.
Slim
And, you know, just to add on to it, man. We definitely have to get out on our genres as far as support, too. Like, I went to a Pearl Jam concert one time, right?
Mike
Big shout out to Pearl Jam. Fucking love that. Get out of here.
Slim
The lead singer was young, but he sounded just like the lead singer.
Jadakiss
Right, right, right, right.
Mike
He was a new. He was a new.
Slim
He was a. Yeah, man. But the people there, they were, like, embraced in the music. So once. So I'm sitting there, I'M just soaking in all the energy, you know what I'm saying? My mind is a catalog. It's crazy. And all of a sudden, the people that was around start noticing who I was, and they were like, hey, man, well, we don't see y'. All. You don't. We don't see you. You know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
Whatever.
Jadakiss
Whatever.
Slim
And I was like, man, you know? Cause things. It wasn't the way it was the way it was at the time. And they were like, look, I don't care how we hear this music. We just want to hear this music. Hey, I can't name three people up in here, but when that record came on, that whole stadium lit up. And it's just unfortunate that, you know what I'm saying, people don't know what's going on behind the scenes. But to even get there, we're already, like, told what we can't do from the time we first started, you know what I'm saying? But so for us to get to this situation right here, like, we at our 30th year, and you're. You're seeing us and you're hearing us and you're feeling us at this level right here, we've already won at this point, you know what I'm saying? So I'm going to encourage everybody out there. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, support. Support our culture, you know what I'm saying? People build their music comes from us, right?
Mike
And we gotta walk that walk. We gotta walk that walk.
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Mike
Cause I'm a Grammy voter, too, so, you know, I made it a responsible, like, I felt incumbent, right, to not only just talk about the fact that, yo, man, they always voting for the same people. Nah, bro. Now I'm a Grammy voter, so, like, I'm gonna do my part as well and just, you know, all the artists that I love and that I know that don't get that kind of support that, you know, that the majors we'll just put behind or whatever. So, like, it's more than just saying, you know, we should support whatever. It's actually doing the actions or whatever, man. But, you know, it is something to be said about how we treat our artists. It's like, if you're not popping, if you're not relevant at the time, then it's like your whole catalog went away, and it's like your whole body of work. We sacrifice everybody. Everybody here has 30 years or more of sacrifice. Like, people don't understand what it takes to be in the music industry. So how much shit you have to give up, how much that you miss, you miss out on graduations, birthdays, funerals, all this other stuff, man, just to. It's crazy. Like, we knew what it was, what the Bible say, To whom much is given, much is required, right? So we've been given a lot, but at the same time, we had to give a lot as well, man. So I don't think that part of the industry never gets talked about enough. Or if it does, it's like y' all complaining, y' all rich, you know, y' all millionaires and all this other stuff, man. So you know, y' all don't have a right to complain. You don't have a right to, you know. And no, we're human. As human as everybody else there. And like Keisha was saying earlier, we have vulnerabilities as well. And the great thing about it is, like, you guys, platform, we're able to speak on these kind of things or whatever, because for so many years, we were unable to speak about the fact that. Yo, man, like, I'm sick as a dog right now. Not sick and contagious like, anything like that, but, like, vocally, I don't know how I'm gonna do this show tonight, but I'm gonna push through. But people don't wanna hear that shit. They like, yo, I paid my money. I need you singing tonight. You know what I mean? So some kind of way I'm gonna push through it. But it's. It's that thing. It's those things that people don't understand, you know what I mean? And. And so I'm glad that we're able to. And I want to thank you guys as well on behalf of total and.
Fat Joe
112 or something over there.
Mike
Give me a medicine ball, son.
Fat Joe
I'm thinking like, this is psychiatrist. Throw some vodka in there now, right? Cause I'm sitting back here listening to y' all up, and I'm saying to myself a couple of things. The reason why I started this, saying what took so long for y' all to collaborate together and do this, because to me, if I was around y', all, this was a no brainer. Right? Right. With no disrespect. Let me. Let me give you. I like to tell a humbling story of mine before I tell somebody a humbling thing. Right? All right. So I remember I went through the taxes, you know, they took all my money. I was fucked up. I went to see Pitbull said, you know, Pitbull said, Yo, Joe, come see me, right? So I go see Pitbull. His house is on the water. Like, you know.
Slim
Yes.
Fat Joe
I took Pitbull's demo to TVT and got him his record deal. Me, Fat Joe, now, I come to him. I'm at the brokenness of my life. He's on the water. He's buying hospitals and schools. All types. Just take that. He was like, yo, Joe, I want to give you some money. What can I do to help you? I was like, yo, Pitt, you can't give me no money. I don't get down like that. But, Joe, let me give you some. Like, he really was probably the only person begging me to give me some money, right? And I was like, yo, Pitt, how you get this shit? He said, that's easy. I watched every mistake you made. He said, you should have signed Lil Wayne when he came to Miami. You should have signed Rick Ross. You could have signed Pitbull. You could have signed. He said, I watched everything you did. And I did the opposite. Now, I had to take that criticism at the time. I had to look at it and be like, damn. And just reevaluate mistakes and shit I did and how I had to move. And so what I'm telling you is because of this era, it was a time I was really pissed, right? Because they was taking guys like you, right? Say you lost your deal when you 26 years old. They were like the old school at noon and playing 112. And everybody I grew up with, and I'm like, yo, old school at new. These only 24, right? And then I feel like that era really let them do that to them. You know, we from an era. We say, fuck you. We doing whatever the fuck we gonna do. So with us, hip hop, I think, like, Jay Z took ownership. I mean, everybody started just taking ownership, saying, y', all, we gonna do what we want to do. And if you say, you know how many times I have friends tell me, yo, it's over, right? Like, I had one of my best friends tell me, yo, you should quit already. It's over. I'm like, what? I came out with lean back. Like, two months later. I was like, are you talking about. Yeah, every time when we did all the way up, I'll tell you this story. I was coming to studio, these kids already had yellow hair, green hair, looking at me like the old on the couch. Yo, what's up, og? What's up, Unk? Walking through, you know what I mean? Like, they thought I was wash. And then we come all the way up this go number one, right? So it's like I never let them dictate what we doing. Like right now, we jump up in the podcast space. We a little late, but we had to come do this because they gotta hear y' all and your side of the story and we gotta teach. It's all about teaching. You know, this is what we do. Whether we have the youth, we have the OGs, whatever the case may be, there's no question. So what I'm trying to tell y' all is this, whether y' all don't know it, anytime your music come on, this shit is legendary.
Slim
Oh yeah.
Fat Joe
Every fucking time. Every time.
Jadakiss
Every time.
Fat Joe
Every time your shit come on. And they can't take that from you. So you got something, God bless you with something that you could go 10 years from now, the total 112 talk. Who gives a fuck? They want to see it again.
Jadakiss
They want to hear.
Fat Joe
And then the more mature the fan, the more they got money in their pocket to spend too.
Slim
Say this. So let me just say this. We're definitely in line. Exactly what you're saying. So with 112hoes movement, you know what I'm saying? Big shout out to our management team, you know what I'm saying? Like years ago, you know what I'm saying? We got a chance to actually put the reins in our hands where, you know, when people were like shutting the door saying, no, we don't think you're up to this standard or whatever, we did. What we did was we shot our own polestar numbers up and we traveled around the world. We believed in ourselves, we brand ourselves and that's what we did. And then we learned the knowledge of the game and then we made made the actual agencies come to us. So with this tour, yet, you see, we earned it. We earned it by selling out whatever place that they put it. So whether it was, yes, arenas. And what we did was we sold it out for years. And those same agencies then had to retract what they we that what they said and now had to cut the check. So exactly what you see, you know, with 112 and you see in total and the whole case situation, yes, we are getting the flowers and thank you, thank everybody out there. But I just want everybody to understand that this is a business too. And you know what I'm saying, you have to earn it. It's less of that talk. We always come just like, thank you, you know what I'm saying, Whatever. But it's a reason. It's just like how you all created this podcast. You didn't say, oh, it's so many other podcasts or whatever. No, y' all took it and then. Yeah, that's why y' all number one. So you know what I'm saying? So thank God for our people. Thank God for our people that, you know what I'm saying, believed in us.
Fat Joe
Run this.
Slim
Yes, sir.
Fat Joe
Ownership.
Slim
Exactly.
Fat Joe
Boston. And so we got freedom. We talk to whoever we want to talk to. Facts. We do whatever the we want to do and we don't give a fuck. And that was the difference. No, it's the truth.
Slim
No, it's the truth.
Fat Joe
No, it's real difference between when we all came up to now. I hated, right, Being signed to a major level label. Fat Joe, the gangster motherfucker, scared they even talk to me. They lips are shaking in the street. I gotta talk to this bozo, John Wolfington, and be like, hey, could you really promote my record? You know how embarrassed I would have been in the streets that they would have seen videos of that shit? Yo, could you really? Are you gonna put the push the button this time, buddy? I bought you some sandwiches so you could, like, get the fuck outta here. I had to take power in my own hands and go independent. I wasn't scared. I was like, man, fuck these dudes. And I've been winning ever since. But it's about taking the power in your hands. I wanna ask you a question. Don't wanna answer. It may be a little something, but with the controversy, do you worry about. Not now. Obviously not. But was you at the time worrying about your catalog or how people will receive your music? I know it had nothing to do with you, but, you know, y' all fall in that whole thing. Anybody want to answer that?
Mike
So. So do we clip. We're talking about Diddy, right?
Fat Joe
You know what we talking about?
Jadakiss
I don't see nothing to the music.
Mike
I just wanna.
Jadakiss
It made him wanna hear it more.
Slim
Exactly.
Jadakiss
We thought about it, but it wasn't.
Fat Joe
But it wasn't.
Jadakiss
I crossed your mind?
Keisha
No, people still love you. And it has really nothing to do with you. Nothing to do with us at all.
Fat Joe
But at first you said, same music. At first you said, yo, this might be our up. Like, because you could catch it.
Keisha
It was not so much more something you just thought about, like, you know, it could possibly been a trickle effect, but it's not.
Slim
So I'm gonna tell you something like. And big shout out to Tony Neal out there for Cor.
Fat Joe
Legend.
Slim
So. So he called me that's my homie. He called me when the first. When it first popped off, and I was like, well, you got to look at on one side, you know what I'm saying? We saw our royalty shoot up like a thousand percent. Why? Because the younger people didn't even know who Diddy and stuff, you know what I'm saying? At first, what was the music? But they said, what is the music? So who are these people? That's whatever. And then it was like, somebody go to jail.
Fat Joe
That shit sparked for some reason.
Slim
That's what it is. So then I said, okay, well, now this is what we're going to do. Because what he was worried about was, oh, man, I wonder what I heart radio and what's going to do. So he put me on the phone with somebody that was an executive, and I was like, hey. Because I already know how it feels like when you end, when you go independent and now you're the CEO of your own stuff, your conversation goes different. It's not like you're sitting sheepishly as an artist. You're now the CEO. And I know because I dropped so Fly and it went double platinum. Independent, right?
Fat Joe
Talk that.
Slim
So you make a phone call, you say, hey, I'm gonna talk to the person who runs the southeastern side of. You know what I'm saying? Walmart. Hey, how come my stuff is not here or whatever, you know what I'm saying? Make it happen. Same thing. What Tony did, He put me on the phone with somebody from Iheart and it happened. And I know we understood it.
Fat Joe
Tony Neil's. Yo, Tony Gill, man, we love you, man. We thank you for all the years of supporting us as artists.
Slim
Yes, sir.
Fat Joe
You always been true to the game. Love you, brother. You know, here. We get them. We get them flowers, you know what I'm saying? You know?
Slim
Yeah, man.
Fat Joe
He just caught the blessing on the. On the humble, you know what I'm saying? On the walk through, somebody gonna tell him, yo, you seen the podcast? They was bigging you up. Tony, bro. He might be just about to close the deal. Somebody need to hear that. Like, hey, they big D. That's important.
Jadakiss
Yes, it is.
Fat Joe
I was worried about it, right? So, you know, I worry about everybody. Let me tell you something I thought about. I was gu. Yeah, all right. What you saying? I worry about everybody because the oppressors. The oppressors, the people who've been playing with us in this business, they always try to make us feel like we don't love each other.
Keisha
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
Well, we not really like in the class of whatever. Whatever the case. And that's. That's a lie. The minute I hear somebody sick, somebody passed, somebody this somebody this. I hurt.
Keisha
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Even though I don't see y' all every day, I just be like, damn, man. What the. Whatever. They have you thinking that it's all competition, that we don't love each other, but we really love each other.
Keisha
Right.
Slim
Our situation, I'm telling you, keep it real. That much shot up tremendously. That's if you're a person that you know. I'm saying you can control your puppet.
Fat Joe
Turn a negative to a positive.
Keisha
But we here.
Fat Joe
Here. Yeah, we here. Oh, no, no, no. You're more than here. You guys represent a time of music that cannot even be matched.
Slim
That's right.
Fat Joe
Or duplicate.
Slim
That's an era. You know what I'm saying?
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You're almost at the finish line.
Keisha
But first.
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Fat Joe
Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
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Fat Joe
What's your man? Stephen A. Smith. You know, you, too, bro. Stephen A. Smith came on here. He was like, yo, man, you know. You know my mic up at the Yankee World Series, it was an honor for me. I grew up five blocks away. So they put the delay on my shit. So he talking about, yo, Ice Cube did it flawlessly. I said, bro, I practice three times a day. The shit was perfect. When they turned it on, the shit had a delay. There's nothing I could do about it. But I almost felt like he was disvaluing my motherfucking monsters. My shit number one. Billboard. All them shits I played in Yankee stadium was number one. Billboard 100, number one. Not the fucking this chart of that chart. So my brother Steven, when I went home and I thought about it, I said, yo, Steve, you discrediting that? That ain't no regular coming on facts. Nothing can stop me. I'm all the way up. You can't discredit them missiles. Come on, man. We know Ice Cube, the God of gods, and we're going to salute the man unless you play in the big dream. All of us, huh?
Keisha
I said, all of us.
Fat Joe
Put us all in the movie, God damn it. But my thing is, they can't discredit your catalog. You know, I was listening to you the other day when what's the part of the song that you go like, Tony, Tony, Tony, Feels good. You couldn't wait to do that. You. Y', all. Y', all, J. You couldn't wait to go. Feels good.
Slim
Hey, man, who.
Fat Joe
Some of the guys influenced you because, you know, you guys are legends to everybody. Who influenced you.
Mike
Well, our sound originated from Take six and Commission. So those two gospel groups, they gave us that initial sound and then big shout out to Tim and Bob, who basically molded our sound into what it was. But our three, like we always say, we have a trifecta, right, of three groups that always were, like, the tier before 112, and that's new Edition, Jodeci and Boys I Men. It's like. So those three was like those pioneers, like, Untouched. You had the soulfulness from Jodeci. You had the harmonies and the songs and the beautiful songs. Well, Jodeci, beautiful songs as well from Boyz II Men. And then you had the overall entertainment aspect from New Edition. So that was a trifecta as far as 112 was concerned. And then we were that tier underneath, you know, some of those guys. So, like, that's how we looked at it. But we also had, like, major influences everywhere. Cause we toured with Whitney and the Isley Brothers and Janet and. And Puff Daddy and the Family. New Edition. So we all, like you said, taking it back and paying homage. We learned something from all of them. Like, you know, we learned how to be, you know, classy with the Isaac Brothers. We learned how to embrace an entire audience with Whitney, and we learned how to be entertainers with New Addition. And, you know, it was just. It was all those lessons, man. We learned from them. So we learned from everybody, man. We learned from Total. We learned from the Locks. This crazy shit is like, when we first met the Locks, we thought Mace was. Was in the group. We thought Mace was what, like the fourth member of the Locks. We first. That was crazy.
Fat Joe
Yeah, we thought.
Mike
We thought.
Fat Joe
I can't wait till I give this man this check, right? I can't wait till I give him the biggest check this man ever seen in his life. I can't wait, right? He ca he with me, but he know I got the master plan. Don't worry about. I know how to get to the yala, you know what I'm saying? Who are some of your influences, man?
Slim
You know? Well, for me, having an untraditional voice, man, like, I always looked at artists like, you know, Raphael, Sadiq, Stokely or something like that. Babyface, Elder Barge, Ron, Ice, Doc. Yeah, man. So it's just like the people who had different style voices where, you know, first, like, if they whisper, you know exactly who they are. So I had to understand my voice and find my place, you know what I'm saying? Thanks print mic for understanding, like, okay. He doesn't have the most traditional voice, but he'd be in the group, you know what I'm saying? And I just felt like my part of being in the group was, you know, of course, whatever the harmonies are, what we supposed to do. But when it's my turn to sing, then I need to understand my voice and understand, like, okay, when you sing Slim, you know what I'm saying? That's going to differentiate us from anyone else.
Fat Joe
You know what was crazy?
Mike
When Slim first got in the group, he didn't sing in the leads. He was not. He didn't sing any leads whatsoever, right? Puff sat us all down and was like, yo, this y' all lead single. And at first we were like, yo, you bugging. You know what? I mean, because, like, we don't have a lead singer. Yeah, we didn't have any weak links or whatever, but he understood the business aspect of him. It was like, yo, this dude got one of the most distinctive voices on earth. Like, if you hear him, you immediately associate his voice with 112. So that didn't belittle the rest of us, you know what I'm saying? As far as what we were able to contribute. But you've heard my voice before. I'm one of them David Ruffin, Sam Cooke kind of dudes. You know what I mean? So that's. You heard that?
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Mike
Donny Hathaway. You heard that? Soulfulness. You heard that before. But with him, you've never heard a dude like that before. Even with all the people that he said he was influenced by, why you never really heard his voice before.
Keisha
Right?
Mike
Because we had, what, Drew Hill.
Slim
Who else was out next?
Mike
Next as yet.
Fat Joe
You see, when the man punished his little son, he made him do the Drew hill. Give me 10 more. Doing that.
Mike
We gonna make him do some 112 choreography. They could be sweating.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Slim
Take a look.
Fat Joe
Want to have a choreography?
Mike
Hey, yo, y. Y' all need to do one with. It's over now. Do the choreography on that. Them kids will never do anything bad.
Fat Joe
In their life again.
Mike
They'll never do nothing bad in their life again.
Fat Joe
Who influenced y'? All?
Keisha
Mary J. Blige.
Fat Joe
Total.
Keisha
Yes. Yes. As far as total. Growing up, for me, it was Whitney Houston, Stephanie Mills, Luther Vandross.
Fat Joe
Oh, come on. Those are my favorites by the even Sister Sledge.
Keisha
Shaka Khan. And then I remember, as far as, like, our presentation and our delivery in style, it was the Labelles. Yeah, that's what Puff saw.
Fat Joe
You know, you. That's crazy, because you got some of my top fives, too. That's nuts. Stephanie Mills, she the queen.
Keisha
You know, I'm so happy for her, this moment, that she's right now, right?
Fat Joe
I told her, yo, babe, I knew ahead of time, you know, Stephanie Mill, my girl, you know, we on a different level. You know what I'm saying? We got matching furs, you know, One year she came, she had a show. I can't pull up with the pink chinchilla down to her ankles. She didn't even know why I gave it to her. I said, here you go. Where it would help. Stephanie Mills, my girl. Don't do that. Why? I didn't do anything, dog.
Jadakiss
Understanding.
Keisha
The synergy is funny.
Fat Joe
Hold up, hold up, Baby face. My. You know, he come to My birthday parties. This is not a lie. You could Google this. He don't believe it when I tell him I'm cool with people.
Keisha
So you can call Baby Face. Because me and Kim are looking for a record.
Fat Joe
Super facts. I could call Baby Face. I tell them, get them. I don't know if I'm gonna get him the record. I can't tell you what the man. You want me to tell him I can get baby fat?
Keisha
I'm not.
Fat Joe
Man, I can't even believe I know.
Keisha
Because we can't say what should have been. Because it could have been. It should have been, right? It's going to be every time.
Fat Joe
You sound like dead in the middle of Little Italy over there. Could have been.
Keisha
I was doing. What did you do earlier?
Fat Joe
Oh, I didn't even know what the.
Keisha
Earlier.
Mike
It was stupid stuff, Keisha.
Fat Joe
I'm fried. I tell them, though. Some people don't know when they fry. I know I'm fried, right? I fry. I'm more. I did. I forget everything. I don't give a man. You know what I'm saying? Yo, I'm like a horse. You.
Keisha
You.
Fat Joe
You put the blinders on me and say the bags that way. And I'm going, I gotta go get that. That's what it's all about.
Mike
That's what's up, up.
Fat Joe
But yeah, Stephanie Mills, man, she's everything to me. You know, she went back to Stephanie. The moment she had on Tick Tock. Yeah, everybody, we did it. We went super viral, huh? You were scared to do that, man. You ain't want to sing like that.
Jadakiss
That ain't my style.
Fat Joe
Y' all hit him with the Euro step. You think they know I have moves?
Jadakiss
I was doing the singing, he was doing the dance.
Fat Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Slim
This is wild.
Fat Joe
He didn't want to do the dance. I said, y', all, I will wish. Let me tell you something. If I could throw my whole rap career in and be a R and B singer, I would have did it long time ago. I think Remy, too. Remy would have did the same. Like, we fake singers. We want to sing.
Mike
I love Remy. No, we love Remy.
Fat Joe
But she, you know, it's like, you see Kima want to rap, Kima want to rap. She smart.
Jadakiss
You see Kima rap.
Keisha
Slim did a the Stephanie Mills joint with us.
Fat Joe
Y' all did it, man.
Slim
But, see, they threatened me. They threatened me cuz they sp.
Fat Joe
You was doing the old school, man.
Slim
I was going. Going hard on the whole school.
Fat Joe
You gotta go hard on that gonna.
Slim
Be on the tour. So I mean, yo, man, kids.
Fat Joe
I seen so many mothers force their little kids 11 years old to do the old school. They jumping up and down. They doing the Drew Hill. The New Edition. The New Edition. Do me a favor. Yeah, you 45, 50 plus. I'm going to the new Edition show. I always do. Don't do the dance. Don't do the routine. Don't have it is enough. Don't do that. It's not allowed. That's like LeBron J doing the young. It can't do that. It's over.
Slim
No, I need new addition to do their steps, man.
Fat Joe
We need them to do their steps. If you a grown ass man.
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Keisha
Do the steps, let them do it.
Fat Joe
I got friends of mine that be.
Keisha
Trying to do it.
Fat Joe
Real guys, 20 in jail. If it is enough, I'll be like your mom.
Slim
But you know what though?
Fat Joe
We.
Slim
Hey, we got a whole bunch of, you know, man, hardcore cats be coming out there and just waiting to singing Cupid. It's like, yeah, ain't nothing we can do.
Fat Joe
I sing it like that too.
Slim
That's what I'm talking about.
Fat Joe
Nothing you could do with that one. That's your Cupid.
Keisha
That Cupid said last night was amazing. And player, y' all have to come see the show. I'm sorry, like, it took me back. I'm like, I just became a new fan of Yalls in rehearsal. Now we're new fans again and seeing this show. Y' all have to come see it.
Fat Joe
Cancel dinner tonight.
Keisha
Crazy. Y' all gotta come to the show.
Fat Joe
Cancel dinner tonight. I gotta come to the show.
Slim
You gotta come.
Mike
That was awesome.
Fat Joe
That was. I gotta come to the show. He pulled up on me. It was an all hip hop show. I think Sacramento or something.
Slim
Exactly.
Fat Joe
I don't know what the you was doing in Sacramento, but he pulled up.
Slim
Big shout out to E4.
Fat Joe
Join on, throw the song on. So he came and bodied the whole stadium.
Jadakiss
Exactly.
Fat Joe
I knew it.
Slim
Come on now.
Fat Joe
No, slim body. The whole stadium.
Slim
Yeah, man. Big shout out to all my family out there.
Fat Joe
All.
Slim
All the friends out there in Sacramento. Everybody know. I'm like, I'm an Oakland Raiders fan. So you know what I'm saying?
Jadakiss
Through and through.
Slim
So you know what I'm saying.
Fat Joe
You know who. I did that one time too. I was on a run. I caught you in Sacramento. And in here I had Elder Barge. He finally showed up. You know, I've been chasing Elder Barge the whole.
Slim
Come on, bro.
Keisha
Goodness.
Fat Joe
A man don't show up to shit. I booked him for my birthday. Elder bars don't show up to. Come on.
Mike
No.
Fat Joe
He ain't been paying attention to my birthday parties. Elder bars. We had them to the point of where I was technically brack. I had Swiss beats. Got this like, 3,4 million dollar cost of with two seats.
Slim
Holy.
Fat Joe
Some European. So I see yo, Swiss, because to me, Elder Barge like, oh, my God, he's like a dog, right? So I said, swiss, I need you to pick up elder bars maybe a block away and just pull up in front of the. With the. Swiss was coming with the four. He came with the four million. You know, he got this out of this world. So Swiss was like, all right. So Elder boss never got on that plane. You know what I'm saying? I was hurt. What do you want me to do? He get on the. But one day he's in New York. He's like, yo, Joe, I'm here. I'm like, you hear here? He's like, yo, I'm here. I was like, all right, pull up with me. We did Madison Square Garden for Dave Chappelle, and I brought out Elder Barge and Body O. And I like it. This went crazy. That was a dream come true. You too, man. When you came, do we wish you much love and success? I know everything gonna be sold out, and it's gonna lead to the bigger bag. Cause then we're gonna start, like, making it even bigger. I'm saying, we got guys. We can make it even bigger after this run.
Slim
No, no, I mean, you know, I'm just, you know.
Fat Joe
Cause y' all running, y' all driving the car.
Slim
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Once this is totally successful, you bring two or three other people.
Jadakiss
People.
Fat Joe
Then it go from the theater to the arena.
Jadakiss
All right.
Slim
Yeah.
Fat Joe
That's what I'm telling you. So you gonna bring a little two clip legends that we love that's gonna come sing that. You know this guy Jodeci, man, he be this skinny. He sing his ass off, man. What's my man? No, no, Jodeci. Yeah, but kc right? That no shirt on. They carry him through the audio. Like, I'm just telling you. It's too many legends.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
That y' all could incorporate with this on the way out. I love it.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Let me tell you something. Y' all deserve all the blessings, you know, Y' all keep it classy. Y' all keep it great.
Jadakiss
Make sure y' all get your tickets, man.
Mike
Room 112.
Jadakiss
Tour room the.
Mike
Room 112.
Fat Joe
All right. It's too easy. We got. We got 112 total kids.
Jadakiss
Yes.
Fat Joe
Randy and Monica. I'm waiting for that shit.
Keisha
That's a fly show. You saw it already came back into rehearsal. Like what?
Fat Joe
He was scratching for real, right?
Mike
Yeah, exactly.
Keisha
He was like, yeah.
Mike
Renew energy.
Keisha
Some snapped in. Yeah.
Fat Joe
Monica's a friend.
Slim
Oh, yeah.
Fat Joe
Cause nobody believe me no more. Monica's a friend. Shout out aunt, my brother. They don't want to fucking believe. Fat Joe know nobody. He think he only know everybody. Right. She's a friend. They rehearsed. I don't have very hard.
Jadakiss
Any friend.
Keisha
Yeah.
Fat Joe
No, I got some friends. I don't. I do. And so they were hurt. I'm going to that.
Keisha
You have to.
Fat Joe
I told them I'm 1 billion percent. I'm also gonna go to the Boyz II Men. Tony Braxton.
Slim
Yeah, yeah. And New Edition.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Slim
That's about to be crazy.
Fat Joe
The only show I miss. Oh, you gotta go to that shit too. Yeah. We already got it in the word. Like you can't miss it.
Slim
Yeah. Ye.
Mike
Best history. Best history in the making.
Fat Joe
How could you miss that? You can't miss. Yeah, boy.
Slim
Oh, yeah.
Keisha
Yeah.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Keisha
Tony Braxton.
Fat Joe
Tony, I like the boys to men. That everything it is. Is incredible. But I like that when he say, you know, he moved on. He moved on.
Slim
Oh, yeah.
Fat Joe
What's that song?
Slim
Without you in my life. Yeah.
Mike
I'm doing just fine.
Slim
I'm doing just fine.
Fat Joe
Huh? I'm doing just fine. Like, don't worry about me. I'm doing.
Slim
Yeah. Now they. I ain't a front now.
Mike
Catalog.
Fat Joe
Yeah, man. Yeah.
Mike
Them boys got catalog.
Slim
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Now if we could.
Slim
We could take one of this song. Like Water Runs Dry for me.
Keisha
Yeah.
Slim
You know what I'm saying? Saying, good Lord.
Fat Joe
Which one? Water.
Mike
We don't even talk anymore. Yeah.
Fat Joe
I need a rose in my mouth. Fat Joe would have been on R and B. Sing Fat Joe. I didn't had the rose in my mouth.
Mike
Talk.
Fat Joe
We don't even talk.
Mike
You did the R B hand grab.
Fat Joe
Listen, remember Patti LaBelle used to kick her shoes off.
Keisha
Yes.
Fat Joe
Acting a fool. Like disgusting.
Keisha
Man.
Fat Joe
I number one, your man Luther, who's my favorite singer all the time. He had that with the mic go there. He walked by and go. I be up a deck. He this small. I'm like, yay. I'm up a deck with a three piece suit on, looking like a bus driver. I ain't even have money. I ain't had no money. Then. You know when you sky blue shirt. You look like you driving a bus. A different.
Slim
Yeah, that's true.
Fat Joe
Galaxy shout out to all you guys. Do us a service. You guys make us happy. Some people going through depression. Some people going through whatever. I was about to tell you, early. It was you even fat Joel. Give up the turkey dinner for tickets to total of 112, bro. So I. I got to see my people, man. When they come through, I got to be there. I'm a fan of the music. I don't want to miss. Miss it.
Keisha
Thank you.
Fat Joe
I don't want to miss it. Y' all better go.
Slim
Appreciate it.
Jadakiss
Thank you.
Fat Joe
Should I change up because they on their first. I might have to go bring out the grizzly, you know what I'm saying? You see what these ladies is doing? Oh, no. I pull this out, that should stand by itself. Hey, man, she got the lion breathing still on that. I'm not playing. I got premeditated murders. I promise you.
Keisha
You.
Fat Joe
I'm not threatening lightly. Don't with me. Cause I come up on there and be like, oh, stop, guys. Man, we might have to come floating.
Slim
Yeah.
Keisha
Instead, give him the mic.
Slim
We might have to give him the mic, man.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Keisha
You know what I'm saying?
Slim
We had to come out there.
Fat Joe
We'd be like, you know, I should did that to me. He made me perform the greatest hits, man. I'm scared to go to Usher. Show us to say, go, Joe, go. I said, God damn. I want song number pretend. Holy. But listen, we love y'. All. This ain't that.
Jadakiss
That ain't this.
Fat Joe
It's cracking.
Jadakiss
Kiss make some noise for 112 in total. Yeah. Make sure you get your tickets. Make sure you stay updated to the room 1:12 talk. Coming to a city near.
Fat Joe
What happened when you see these young kids wearing vanses and all that. And you wore that back then.
Slim
Come on, man.
Fat Joe
They come stunting on us like they got some. I be like, yo, my check, 1993. I had the on.
Keisha
All right.
Fat Joe
I don't know what the y' all talking about. My is, yo, bro, we wore that. They think it's. They.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Keisha
Been there, done that.
Slim
Yes, sir.
Keisha
Thank y' all for having me.
Slim
Thank you so much, man.
Keisha
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In this legendary episode, Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome iconic R&B groups 112 (Slim, Mike) and Total (Keisha, Kim) for an in-depth, vibrant conversation. They discuss their upcoming joint tour, their historic time with Biggie and Bad Boy, the realities and business of longevity in music, and candidly address the Diddy controversy and its impact on their catalogs. Spanning stories of love, struggle, evolution and R&B, this episode is equal parts celebration and real talk about what it means to last 30+ years in the game.
The episode brims with synergy, honest insight, legendary storytelling, humor, and blunt NYC wisdom. It’s a masterclass in surviving, thriving, and giving back in music. The guests and hosts reinforce the importance of honoring your roots, making bold moves, retaining creative and business ownership, and supporting each other in Black music—while never losing the joy and camaraderie that made R&B and Hip Hop timeless.
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(For essential segments, jump to 04:26 for tour discussion, 05:44 for Biggie memories, 41:02 for legacy and aging in hip-hop trivia, and 52:46 for the Diddy/career impact talk.)