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Fat Joe
Where you see yourself in the future, 42, man.
42 Dugg
Hopefully selling the catalog for a billion. You hear me? No doubt, man. I'm trying to get there.
Fat Joe
Yo, what up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack.
Jada
You know it is your boy Jada. It's the Joe and Jada show, man. Every show legendary, every show iconic.
42 Dugg
That's right.
Jada
Every show we throw that on.
Fat Joe
That's right.
Jada
You know what it is? You know what I mean? When you think of today's guest, you think of unique. I mean, you think of a big heart. Think of a family, man, good father.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
Yeah, yeah.
Jada
Somebody that stand 10 toes down for all situations. Think of east side of Detroit. What up, though?
42 Dugg
What up, dog?
Jada
Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother.
Fat Joe
Folk do that.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
What up?
Jada
What's up, baby? Welcome to the couch. Welcome to the house. Welcome to the family. What's going on with you, man?
42 Dugg
Taking it easy, man. Getting ready to drop this tape, man.
Jada
You know, January 23rd.
42 Dugg
Yeah, yeah.
Jada
It's part three. What can we expect, man? You know you dropped them missiles, man.
42 Dugg
Bangers on there. I got some real street hood. I had to take some off, you know. Should be getting crazy.
Jada
You hit me to get on the joint, then you ain't hit me back, man.
42 Dugg
I gotta say, I gotta put you on the album, though.
Jada
Yeah, all right, all right.
42 Dugg
I gotta put you on the album right now. It's just, you know, chilling. I gotta get one of them bad for you.
Jada
No doubt. You know how we do.
42 Dugg
Really, you know. Hey, man, independent.
Fat Joe
You want to fly? And saucer, nigga, you come this way.
Jada
I never fly.
Fat Joe
Saucer. Number one on the charts. I be trying to tell, cuz, you too young, right? But you, I gotta say, at all, young hip hop, he happens to be the most respectful, the most solid one out of all of them. Right. In my opinion. So that's. So that's why I fuck with you. And I invited you on the show because I said, yo, even though he a young dude, he got something to say. He a real dude. I love him. So we're going to put you on there. But I was just explaining to the young guy that works here. I was like, yo, you know, I was the hottest dude on earth. Like, I really put out number because they young. They wasn't here for that kiss. Don't say so. I'm like, you know, I was putting out number one. Number one. Number one, number one, number one. Number one. Number one. Number one. Number one on the Billboard.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Against Britney Spears and shit like that.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
The big Boy, shit. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, you want to fly and sauce it, man, let me know.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? Cause levels to the shit. But 42, let me tell you something. You are a legend on the streets.
42 Dugg
I appreciate you.
Fat Joe
And the whole New York, they talk about your gambling game.
42 Dugg
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
You, yo.
Jada
Yo, you being in them gambling spots, airing shit they know everywhere.
Fat Joe
And my son, I don't gamble.
Jada
That fortune was a tobago, he was this and that.
Fat Joe
He dried up the whole New York. I don't gamble, but, you know, my head to the street.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
They say, yo, your little man, 42, wiping out the whole New Year. He wiped them out. Like, I'm talking about Washington High. Everywhere, they was telling me, they was like, yo. I never forget, they was like, yo, your man, your little man. I said, yo. But he in there. They be like, yo, he killing these dicks in the dice game. Like, destroying them, taking every dollar.
42 Dugg
We used to live down here, like, two months, swear to God. We used to catch the J to the dice game.
Jada
Straight to the dice game.
42 Dugg
They used to be like, dung gamble. Be like, all right, we on our way. We pull up 4,500,000 used to go down.
Fat Joe
I'm not lying. That's what the street's been saying. And you know what's crazy is it's crazy. You from Detroit and you float through the city.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Like you from the city.
42 Dugg
Yeah. No, for sure.
Fat Joe
No limitations, no.
Jada
Well connected. He's solid, and he's well connected. And that's all you gotta be. You know what I mean?
42 Dugg
I mean, you know, you don't really put out no bad energy. You don't really get no bad energy. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? Like, for a minute, like, since I've been out of jail, I really ain't been having no problems. You know what I'm saying? So even with the security, you know, you really don't need them. I'm like, no.
Fat Joe
I tell my security, shout out to.
Jada
Carlos, I haven't been seeing no country for Old Men. You told them, chill.
Fat Joe
Kill the whole block. I tell them all the time. I'm not bullshitting, man. Come at me, I'm gonna let these guys shoot you in the face. I have no problem with it. Yeah, no, do me a favor. Shoot him in the face. I don't give a. Yeah, y'. All, I think they know, too. So I told them, yo, y' all got the easiest job. They said, what you mean? I said, nobody really with me. I tell them nicely, get loud with me in any way. Anything, this. I said, you see these guys?
Jada
Shoot them in the face.
Fat Joe
They're gonna shoot you in your face. I told the box of that. Now I'm with my wife. I'm with my daughter. You know them boxes. I met the Edgar Belonga fight. The boxer come up to me, yo, what's up with your manez? I say, all right. Either he start talking crazy. I said, yo, shoot you in your face.
42 Dugg
Yeah, straight love.
Fat Joe
He had the hot. He had. He was like, did he buy it coming? The man arguing with me with the.
Jada
Like.
Fat Joe
He. He ready to give me a. Like, I. I felt the. My daughter here, my wife here. I said, oh, wait a minute. I shoot you in your face. Who you think you talk that means that?
42 Dugg
Huh?
Fat Joe
Cause not every day somebody tell you that. Yeah, look at me. What? Huh? Like you. Oh, no. You heard me. You ain't punching Fat Joe. You ain't beating Fat Joe up on no level. Man, that little ch. You got that little camera dude trying to catch you swing on me. That'd be the worst.
42 Dugg
Yeah. Shout out to security for the show.
Fat Joe
I tell. Let me tell you something. I tell all the young rappers. I tell everybody. You might as well have a legitimate security. I'm not talking about your man's in them. Because you can't shoot up the place.
42 Dugg
You need that behind us.
Fat Joe
Listen, your man keep that to yourself. Your man shoot up the place. Now you on the news. 42, dog.
Jada
Yeah. Yeah.
Fat Joe
I got arrested one time. I'm with my wife and her friends in A section. These dudes beat the. The Pope out of a dude, right? They beat the. Out of this dude, right? But I'm in this section with seven women and me having a time of my life dancing this shit, right? Come on, everybody. Would you do that? He didn't turn around. They over there dancing on him. Legend, right? Next thing I know, about a month later, somebody come up to me and like, yo, like, remember that kid that got beat up? What kid? Yo, he got beat up. I was like, yeah. I was on the other side. He was like, nah, that's not what he says. He says, you beat him up.
42 Dugg
Damn.
Fat Joe
50K in the bag to get this. I said, you tell that guy. Excuse my language, ladies. Suck my dick. I ain't giving that nigga shit. Next day, six in the morning, detectives knock on my door in Jersey. Mr. Cartagena. I go down to the precinct. They put me in the lineup. Five skinny black dudes and me yeah, yeah, that's him. Five skinny black dudes, dark skinned black dudes, and me. And I'm really Fat Joe at this time. Three Fat Joes. I'm about 4, 500, right? The guy slides his shit open and you hear him, oh, my God, it's him. And to think I was a fan. And they closed this shit. I said, this motherfucker. These guys here on the lineup, they said, sorry, Joe. I said, look at this shit. You think they wasn't picking Fat Joe out this motherfucker? Are you fucking. What's Love is number one right at the time. What's love? This is before Lean back, all that. They locked me up. This is when I learned that the police want to get famous too. They want to get clout. These guys came and picked me up in sweatsuits in my house. When we walked out the precinct where the news and all that was, these niggas had they hair done, tuxedos and shit showing. I was like, yo, these niggas want the clout. I was about to go to jail. So my lawyer at the time was telling me, yo, they want to give you a little one to three. You know, I lost.
42 Dugg
What you like. I didn't even touch this.
Fat Joe
No, I also know who danced on him. So I'm just like, you know, so I'm minding my business. And then we hired a private investigator. Shout out to Dawn Florio, attorney at law, that we hired a private. And we didn't know this before now. Now it's cameras everywhere. At that time, B.B. king had the cameras. So when they went there, the owner was like, I was waiting for y' all to come here, like, we got the film. Fat Joe ain't had shit to do with this. Get the DA. The DA says, Can I beat you, Mr. Carter? They dropping the case. I didn't do nothing. I look in there, they got a bunch of Puerto Rican dudes beating this kid up. And she was like, you can see why we thought it's you. I said, lady, there's like 7 million Puerto Ricans in New York City. What the fuck? Because some Puerto Rican dudes beating the dude up as me. Oh, this, this, that. That's how we beat the fucking case. But I mean, these people out here, they'll get you locked up. They'll send you up.
42 Dugg
How he gets, pick you out the lineup and ain't no repercussions.
Fat Joe
That's the problem with lawsuits. That's the problem with people pressing charges. This is that they could accuse you of all wild and they don't get in trouble.
42 Dugg
What if you'd have lost some money like yesterday?
Fat Joe
Everybody loses money. Look, when you are artists, you promoting products, you promoting all type of shit. You a spokesman. I just seen Jason Derulo say some like this. When they put you on the hot block, you lose all your endorsements. All that for somebody's, you know, trying to get a little 50,000 or whatever the case may be. So, you know, that's the. That's the sad part about the whole game. When you are artists and throw dirt on your name, you gotta clean it up. It's up.
42 Dugg
It's up.
Fat Joe
42 dog.
Jada
Yeah. What you gonna do? You're gonna go on tour with this project when you drop it?
42 Dugg
Yeah, I was talking to a few people. I was probably gonna go my own stuff, but I was talking to my man. She finna go to. I don't want to spoil it. So I around go with him in February.
Jada
No doubt.
42 Dugg
We need all money.
Jada
All money.
42 Dugg
All money in.
Fat Joe
You can get all money in.
42 Dugg
Hell yeah.
Fat Joe
You know, these legs, man my shit up.
42 Dugg
You your leg up.
Fat Joe
Cause I've been getting the monies to my whole life.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You seen Fat Joe, Jada Kid start a podcast? You should have knew some shit was coming this way. Netflix. Shout out to Netflix. We on Netflix. Yeah, this a new.
Jada
You know, what can I say?
Fat Joe
You see me sniffing around, you know.
42 Dugg
The pa, the papers, everybody who really doing it, they know something.
Fat Joe
Yeah, you got. You can't stop different.
42 Dugg
You see them podcast, like, yeah, they sh. Doing good.
Jada
Eat it up.
42 Dugg
Y' all feel like this what we had. We ain't rapping no more. We just.
Jada
No, you gotta go to the studio right after this. I go to this studio every day.
42 Dugg
You got your own studio?
Jada
Yeah. I don't fucking play around with this.
Fat Joe
Shit at this point.
Jada
It's my life.
Fat Joe
We rap because we love it, even though we always loved it. But at this point, like, me personally, you know, I do my catalog, I get money off my hits. But the new raps, I do that for him to hear and everybody you to hear and everybody hear.
42 Dugg
Y' all be having, like, competitions and shit. Me and my man, we always, like, go back and forth on, like, who the best rapper. And I be like, you can't fuck with me. And that how he feel, though? So we just like, he be like in the studio, he be like, do you wanna. You wanna pull something up, right? You know what I'm saying? But that's. I feel like we get our best.
Jada
Music off yeah, Orcs wars. Huh?
42 Dugg
Who the best out of locks? Like y' all ain't had that going on.
Jada
We all feel like we do.
Fat Joe
Have y' all ever had that? Like, you ever had, like, a discussion of who's the nicest in the locks? Nah, it's an unspoken.
Jada
You know, we.
42 Dugg
Yeah, I know what it is.
Jada
We form Voltron.
Fat Joe
Nah, I don't know what it is. He chop five. But Styles B is dead nice. And Sheik Luch burned them on every collaboration. I don't know who the best.
42 Dugg
Yeah, yeah.
Jada
Now listen to this right here.
Fat Joe
I'm telling you, I'm a hip hop historian. I know what the I'm talking about. I'm a fan of the music.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
Yeah.
Jada
For one, the people. The people. It's like giving yourself a nickname. The people determine the people.
42 Dugg
The people determine who the one of.
Jada
You you want to be the best on every song you on. I don't care if my mother's on there. I'm trying to. I wouldn't have a better verse than Mama.
Fat Joe
And I done got whacked, everybody. You ever got a whack bag. Like, you ever got a bag to get on a wax on, and you knew it was trash, but you still spit your hardest.
42 Dugg
Hell, yeah.
Jada
Yeah, I got horrible.
Fat Joe
I done been on where they got the bag. I'm, like, hard as hell to write to this, but I'm trying to wrap my ass off on it. Like, I don't give a fuck. My first.
42 Dugg
I got paid to do four bars before.
Fat Joe
Four bars?
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
Yeah.
42 Dugg
Like 35,000.
Fat Joe
Well, nobody for four bars.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Jada
I would have went in there.
Fat Joe
Nobody.
Jada
Hibbet hibbit hop to the hibbit hop to the hop.
42 Dugg
That's all I knew. I'm like, boy, ain't no man like this money, boy. Four bar. I couldn't believe it.
Fat Joe
The most I ever got paid is from Ricky Martin.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Because initially I ain't want to do it.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And so he was living la vida loca. And we the street. We coming like you. Like me and Pun at the time. We get in the middle, like, we killing people to death on the songs, Right. We both Puerto Rican. He wanted us bad. So the number kept going up. And we kept saying, nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. He had a number where Pun was like, yo, wait a minute, Joe.
42 Dugg
Yeah, 750 probably.
Fat Joe
So.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
No, like that, right? It was big money. It even, you know, we can't say his name, but somebody used to be down with us called a free Ferrari. From this, we went to Ricky Barnes house. He live in Miami. I've been passing this house forever. I'm like, yo, you don't go to supermarket. You don't go to Clay. Like, nah, don't leave my house. But his crazy on the water. He got a Ferrari there. He never drive. Somebody used to be down. He was like, I don't drive that. You know what? Keep it. That boy Ricky Martin got bread, bro. Shout out to Ricky Martin.
42 Dugg
I. I'll be watching Spanish artist. It'd be seeming like they got way more money than the. Like.
Jada
He got a different bag.
Fat Joe
Yeah, what's that, like five private planes, like G5.
Jada
Five of them.
Fat Joe
Five.
42 Dugg
They be having silly ass bank rolls on there like annual. And I be watching. They pay crazy on that.
Fat Joe
It's more Spanish people in this world made streaming. So let me tell you what happens, right? What do you want me to do? You asking me? I'm the Spanish guy on here, right?
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You got a problem with me speaking on that? It was a life one, man. Get the out of you. Yo, listen, I'm gonna tell you. The streaming game, you too young Doug. But the way it used to work.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Is you put out an album and gotta wait in a snowstorm at a store to buy a CD or tape. Now, they either download your shit or the more they stream it, it counts as a sale. These Spanish people, they stream that death. Yeah. So if they work at a beauty salon, they work out of them. When they get a record that they like Ricky Martin. You got 40, 50 Latino countries. Panama, Chile, this shit, we never even seen that. Argentina, this, Spain, this, this. All them shits they streaming to death. Now when you streaming, you ain't even have to buy 10 streams album sell 10 streams album smell. So them dudes are like. It's scary to know what they're making.
42 Dugg
So who bigger, J Balvin or Bad Bunny?
Fat Joe
He can't with bad, but nobody could with. Nobody could with Bad Bunny. I mean, like, nobody black, white, Spanish.
42 Dugg
When I was in jail and somebody telling me they was breaking it down, they say bad Bunny rap all gangsta shit.
Fat Joe
Yeah. I wouldn't say gangsta shit, but I would say, yeah, he ain't no rated pg. He talking more about the girls. But he rap gangsta shit. He rap all that shit. He's dead nice if you didn't know. Like, he talking that shit and that Spanish shit. You listen to him. But they got some niggas, man. Watch them boys. The chimney in them, the Obleta and Chimi, they in jail now for like, for crazy years, right? They mean what they say.
42 Dugg
Yeah. Who the y' all up on? The one dude with the. I want to say he got green hair.
Fat Joe
They all got green hair.
42 Dugg
I think he be wearing a mask. Straight posted him or something like, he locked up. He took that out.
Fat Joe
They talking lock shit on steroids. These guys are locked on his page.
42 Dugg
They treat his ass like he.
Fat Joe
Oh, no, Jesus. No, listen. They talking. That gangster on another. They in jail forever right now. Him and his partner. They meant that. And disappear. Your face. They talking all this dumb is going crazy on them shits. I've never seen nobody rap like them in Spanish. I'mma keep it a buck with you.
42 Dugg
I'm like, these motherfuckers. I'm like, who is he? But he got out of jail. There's like 4,000 people out there. I'm like, oh, this motherfucker.
Fat Joe
Well, they know how with the cartel. Well, let me tell you something. Unfortunately for hip hop, reggae tones, Spanish trap, I could tell you the answer if Tupac Shakur came back alive. Right now, Tupac Shakur was in Cuba, and the man came back and said, I'm alive. First day a nigga dissed him. First day. Yeah, they'll get on Instagram, they'll make a diss recorded first day.
Jada
I beg the difference.
Fat Joe
No, no. First day somebody.
Jada
Who the fuck he was over there, man.
Fat Joe
We in the business of clout and all this shit. And niggas want to come up. You think everybody going to be like, well, we will. Tupac should call. Yo, this is that. There's somebody looking to score. There's a guy named Dempo. Who's my man? Dempo was one of the original reggaeton gangster. Got caught allegedly 2000 kilos. This guy had a thousand years in jail, am I correct? Never told did the 10, 15 years. They had a picture of Jesus Christ on the wall and a picture of fucking Temple. In every house in Puerto Rico, they had Jesus Christ, Temple. Every rapper we just talked about, Bad Bunny. This one, this one, they all had tributes. Oh, Temple come home free. Temple Tempo came home. He beat it on an appeal. Biggest miracle before he stepped on Puerto Rico. Sword. Fuck Temple. Your mother, you bitch ass nigga. I was there when he landed. This is my man. To go to him. I couldn't believe that this record was like, that's what it is. We living in a hate nation. But, yeah, they getting big money. You getting big money. You sitting up here with Big ass diamonds and shit dip fresh.
42 Dugg
And I ain't cleaning up money, man. Learn something, man.
Fat Joe
Now you gotta click up with one of them dudes, the main dudes. Like, I knew I was a real solid dude, you know what I'm saying? From what I. In my experience, I did a joint with him.
42 Dugg
What's the other one name?
Fat Joe
I got it.
42 Dugg
Alfonso.
Fat Joe
Alpha. He Dominican. He a good dude.
42 Dugg
Yeah, yeah. I be seeing him. He tripping out.
Fat Joe
It's gonna be hard for you to rap with him because he do the. That boat, his moving like you can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna have to give him the four bars on rewind. Yeah, give him the four bars. That. Yeah, he a fun time. He a good dude. You know, he live in Miami, so I bump into him all the time. He's a beautiful guy. Dominican. Some of the best. My godfather's Dominican. Some of the best people on earth, you know what I'm saying? They have a fun time. They're great people. Dominican, Dominican, Dominican, Dominican, Dominican. You know. You know what time it is with the Dominican.
42 Dugg
You catch fire in Spanish, you dare set for life 75 million.
Jada
Catch that Spanish.
Fat Joe
There's some black billionaires in this, trust me. You just got to know how to leverage your position and be ready. When Detroit turned around and they said they about to do the housing, 1000 cribs invest.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
How is it in Detroit out there? How is it in Detroit? Is it getting better? Like, when I grew up, Detroit was like, it looked like a war zone or some shit.
42 Dugg
I feel like they trying to downtown cool the areas that supposed to be cool, man. The hood is going to be the hood regardless, you know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
Yeah, but the hood could elevate too, you know, like, you go in the Bronx, the Bronx looked like a war zone. Like every building was burnt down. This now it looked nice. It's still the hood. They bust. They busting a gun.
42 Dugg
I feel like you got some blocks where there's just no houses on that beach. One house, then you got some blocks, you know, she's standing strong.
Fat Joe
I got a funny story about Detroit. They hired me to the Pistons, got me to do halftime, right? So we getting at the car service, right? Black dude picks me up, so I'm in the car. I tell a nigga, yo, I'm starving. I'm like, yo, see a McDonald's, pull over. He passed a McDonald's. Yo, you see a McDonald's, pull over. He passed the second McDonald's. I said, yo, my man how many times I gotta say? He turned around, he said, you wanna go to fucking murder? They killed three niggas there yesterday. Yeah, I'm trying to take you to the nice one. That was his real response, like, yo, they just killed three guys there yesterday. Fuck wrong with you? I'm taking you to the suburbs where you're safe. That Detroit shit different. And the what up, though? Let me ask you a question. I'm gonna sound stupid as shit, but.
Jada
Get your flag ready. Now.
Fat Joe
I ain't gonna say it. Now I ain't gonna say it. The what up though, right? I always thought Young Jeezy made that up.
42 Dugg
Right, right.
Fat Joe
No, no. I always thought they got a serious love for young Jeezy.
42 Dugg
Jeezy. They think he's from there in Detroit. Yeah, right.
Fat Joe
That was the bmf.
42 Dugg
Jeezy.
Fat Joe
They feel like he came up from Detroit, correct?
42 Dugg
Nah, for sure. He like a Detroit rapper. Half Detroit. Think that's the best rapper ever. I think it. I think it.
Fat Joe
No, no, I'm a huge Young Jeezy fan.
42 Dugg
Yeah. Nah, for sure. Like, you see, we all grew up off Jeezy, you know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
How Eminem move out there? You ever seen him in Human?
42 Dugg
Yeah, I seen him. I seen him a few times. You seen him passing, though?
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
Like.
Fat Joe
Passing like what?
42 Dugg
Like Eminem over there.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
You know what I mean?
Fat Joe
In the streets?
42 Dugg
No, hell no. Like, we'd be somewhere. We'd be at. For a field or some football game. Eminem over there.
Fat Joe
Or like in the football. You be. They show them on the screen, you hear Eminem over there. You ain't seeing Eminem?
42 Dugg
Nah, hell no.
Fat Joe
I mean, this guy is so dedicated to Detroit.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
Yeah.
Fat Joe
He won't move.
42 Dugg
Nah, for sure.
Fat Joe
I moved out the Bronx long time ago. I heard birds chirping, little white boys playing hockey in the street. I'm good. That boy, he's still over there in that Detroit. That's fucking crazy.
42 Dugg
They love him and them to death. I feel like Eminem, he live in a deal.
Jada
He live in some part of Michigan.
42 Dugg
Some part of Michigan?
Fat Joe
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You can't take away.
Jada
No.
Fat Joe
Why wouldn't you take away the fat? Did the man represent like you represent the Bronx?
Jada
We don't live there.
Fat Joe
I live in Jersey. But the point is, he live in Jersey or Detroit.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
Yeah, yeah.
42 Dugg
The equivalent of Jersey.
Fat Joe
Yeah. He lived like that. That nigga could be in Puerto Vallarta. He could be in the south of France. He could be in fucking wherever he Want to be. Eminem could be wherever he want to be. And he out there by the big tire in the highway. That takes dedication.
42 Dugg
No, for sure.
Fat Joe
You ever been out there in Detroit in the fucking winter?
Jada
I got family in Detroit.
Fat Joe
Family in Detroit. Yo, I came out the strip club one night in a fucking fur, looking like a grizzly. And I walked out, I said, ah, this shit was like that cold in Detroit.
42 Dugg
Think about New York. You don't think this motherfucker cold.
Fat Joe
I like that.
42 Dugg
I think this worser than us.
Fat Joe
Coldest place, Hell, hell, no. Coldest place I ever been in my life is Detroit. Second coldest. Toronto.
42 Dugg
It's cold.
Fat Joe
I'm in that motherfucker. One day, the shit heat just wouldn't come on. I'm in the fucking W4 season, some shit. Best hotel. I call downstairs, they bring the portable heater that ain't doing nothing. I call again, they bring another portable heater. I end up sleeping in the fucking truck outside with the heat on that cold in Toronto. And I'm always. I wasn't in the La Quinta, bro. I was in the best they got out there. The heat can't match the cold.
Jada
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Fat Joe
Got it.
Jada
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Nav Green
This show contains information subject to but not limited to, personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's man, this your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoff. The Chiefs.
Fat Joe
What's a wrap?
Nav Green
It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now.
Fat Joe
Then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford.
42 Dugg
Where did Bo Nicks at?
Fat Joe
He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.
Nav Green
Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.
Fat Joe
Hey, he should be in that conversation.
42 Dugg
In what conversation?
Nav Green
He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or whatever, you get your podcast.
Podcast Narrator (Secret World of Roald Dahl)
You know Roald Dahl, the writer who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda and the bfg. But did you know he was also a spy?
Fat Joe
Was this before he wrote his stories? It must have been.
Podcast Narrator (Secret World of Roald Dahl)
Our new podcast series, the Secret World of Roald Dahl is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary, controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans.
Fat Joe
What?
Podcast Narrator (Secret World of Roald Dahl)
And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either.
42 Dugg
Okay, I don't think that's true.
Podcast Narrator (Secret World of Roald Dahl)
I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelts, played poker with Harry Truman, and had a long affair with a congresswoman. And then he took his talents to Hollywood, where he worked alongside Walt Disney and Alfred Hitchcock before writing a hit James Bond film. How did this secret agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever? And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
The moments that shape us often begin with a simple question. What do I want my life to look like? Now I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford, and on Therapy for Black Girls we create space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health and the choices that help us grow. As cybersecurity expert Camille Stewart Gloucester reminds.
Fat Joe
Us, we are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
Each week we explore the tools and insights that help you move with purpose, whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts.
Fat Joe
Like if we're on the air here and I literally have my contract here and I'm looking at, you know, as soon as I sign this, I'm going to get a seven figure check. I've told them I won't be working here in two weeks.
Podcast Narrator (Atlanta Is)
From the underground clubs that shape global music to the pastors and creatives who built a cultural empire, the Atlanta Is podcast uncovers the stories behind one of the most influential cities in the world.
Fat Joe
The thing I love about Atlanta, Atlanta is that it's a city of hustlers, man.
Podcast Narrator (Atlanta Is)
Each episode explores a different chapter of Atlanta's rise, featuring conversations with ludicrous Will Packer, Pastor Jamal Bryant, DJ Drama and more. The full series is available to listen to now.
Fat Joe
I really just had never experienced anything like what was going on in the city as far as like, you know, seeing so many young, black affluent creatives in all walks of life. The church, church had dwindled almost to nothing. And God said, this is your assignment. And that's like how you know, like, okay, oh, you from Atlanta for real. I ain't gotta say too much. I'm a granny, baby. Shut up.
Podcast Narrator (Atlanta Is)
Listen to Atlanta is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Fat Joe
Some of the artists you Looked up to. Could be from Detroit, it could be from wherever. But I. I would like some Detroit rappers, you know what I'm saying? On your list.
42 Dugg
Peezy.
Jada
No doubt.
Fat Joe
That's my guy.
42 Dugg
Yeah, that was. That probably was to me, the second of Jeezy, like, to me, you know what I'm saying? Because he was rapping. Shit we was going through. Like, we'd be hanging yesterday, next week when you hear pz, like, we was just in it. So you know what I'm saying? That's really how I learned how to rap.
Fat Joe
Super relatable.
42 Dugg
Yeah. Like, that's probably where I took my direction.
Fat Joe
This right here, this set is the only place you can wear fur coat, still be cold. This shit out of control. Y' all niggas, man. Y' all different. This is like J in this.
Jada
I feel it.
42 Dugg
Peasy, though.
Jada
Yeah, it usually don't reach.
Fat Joe
This shit worse than outside right now. So.
42 Dugg
Peezy, I don't know if y' all heard him. Blade, Icewood.
Jada
Blade, Icewood, definitely.
42 Dugg
Yeah. Blade, Icewood.
Fat Joe
I don't know. Blade, Icewood. I gotta get.
42 Dugg
He down there was. He should have. He got killed.
Jada
He killed him. Yeah, he got killed.
42 Dugg
He probably was gonna make it. Like, he was rapping mainstream back then. Like, you know what I'm saying? But on Detroit time, then. Let me see, who. Probably Ray. Oh, like, you know, I fucked with everybody.
Fat Joe
You know, they jacked the girl, man. The girl from out there, what was her name?
Jada
Dej.
Fat Joe
Dej Loaf. They stole a whole style, by the way. The whole end. The whole America stole her shit.
42 Dugg
Dej, for sure.
Fat Joe
She started a flow. Her style and the fucking world. Guys, girls, everybody ran with her shit. I'm gonna be honest with you.
42 Dugg
Oh, for sure.
Fat Joe
She. She.
42 Dugg
I feel like she was making song hard. Like you ever had somebody you like when they get on that and make the song better. She had a silly ass.
Fat Joe
Boy, he's the king of that.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Hell, yeah.
42 Dugg
For sure.
Jada
They definitely. They definitely took her style and multiplied.
Fat Joe
Oh, my God. The biggest in the game. I used to hear be like, yo, is this Dej Loaf? Yeah, like, because they all ran with her. That's almost like Bone Thugs created. They don't stop. We can start a debate, whatever you want.
42 Dugg
No, we like. No, no.
Fat Joe
But Bone Thugs, next thing you know, I hear Mariah Carey Cinnamon. And then. Yeah, running with they. So you forgot it was they like, they ran with Bone Thug to the more it became normal. Every R and B record had the flow. Like, they could have sued everybody.
42 Dugg
Like A melodic cadence to it.
Fat Joe
I don't know what to tell you. I'm listening to the shit I said. Yo, they jacking the fuck out of Bone Thugs right now. Who was first?
42 Dugg
Twister, Bone Thug.
Fat Joe
That's the problem.
Jada
Twisted, right?
Fat Joe
We don't know. Nah, I don't know. That's the beat. Number four.
Jada
Bone Thug, Twisted came up before both.
Fat Joe
Aaron hall was before R. Kelly.
42 Dugg
Who that?
Fat Joe
Who's that?
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You ever heard Jam or Jam? Teddy, jam for me. Yo, listen, Aaron hall, yeah, Was the king. I mean, King guy. It was the most popular.
Jada
And then what happened?
Fat Joe
Kelly came out.
42 Dugg
Do y' all think Arcade is the greatest of all time?
Fat Joe
He definitely there. One of these.
Jada
One of them.
Fat Joe
Really? One of them. He'll come out here, they let him get a furlough. He'll come out here on anybody in the verses.
Jada
Now listen to this.
Fat Joe
If they let him get furloughs on all of them.
42 Dugg
Look, look, look.
Jada
Feds don't give out furloughs.
42 Dugg
This little question here, right? We be having this debate. If R. Kelly get out tomorrow, do you think he will sell out concert?
Jada
Hell, yeah.
Fat Joe
Second.
Jada
Yeah, but what about the shit he just said about Nemo or Emo? They ain't gonna do that to R. Kelly.
Fat Joe
Do what?
Jada
The district, they see how every. The shit you.
Fat Joe
This scenario we talking about rappers where I said they would do that to Tupac. They ain't doing that to R. Kelly. R. Kelly, like he said, when you cool, it is what it is. That's R and B.
42 Dugg
All right.
Jada
Just asking.
Fat Joe
R. Kelly, I think he'll sell out.
Jada
As soon as he get out. If they said R. Kelly getting out tomorrow and he announced the concert when he got out, that shit sold out.
42 Dugg
R. Kelly ain't sold his catalog.
Fat Joe
I don't think he owned it. So what happens is R. Kelly. R. Kelly wasn't so smart, business wise. Yeah, so R. Kelly was a genius. Not even with the pen. He couldn't write.
Jada
Dyslexic. He was right back.
Fat Joe
So he write on the recorder. I've done songs.
Jada
Yeah, he do the melody, then he put the words to it.
Fat Joe
He sits there with the mic with him. He sit there with the recorder, do the melody, put the words to it. I've done hits with R. Kelly, so.
42 Dugg
I know I do the melody like he humming.
Jada
He can't write.
Fat Joe
He just forced.
Jada
He just make noise like you want me to do. Then he put the words with it.
Fat Joe
Man can't write, but he a genius. So he go on the recorder. He Hum the melody. Then he put the words, like Best of Both Worlds.
42 Dugg
That was all right.
Fat Joe
That Best of Both Words. That's probably my second favorite album of all time. It's Illmatic. Nas.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And it's better stuff. Old worlds.
42 Dugg
Nah, for real, though. I was like, this right here. Sweet. Right here, bro. I was young.
Fat Joe
This was like.
Jada
I go.
Fat Joe
Past the.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Four worlds.
42 Dugg
Did they tour for that?
Fat Joe
Let me see a little body.
42 Dugg
They did one out of that.
Jada
Mother was crazy.
42 Dugg
Crazy.
Fat Joe
Somebody girl is at this.
Jada
Shoulder's crazy.
Fat Joe
She coming home with me. Somebody girl is at this. Yo, bro, sitting in this vip. I really, you know. Yo, he doesn't own any of his stuff either. They're very little.
Jada
Apparently, he got sold it early.
Fat Joe
It's all tied up with the labels. And then other stuff is tied up because of court shit and whatnot, too. I don't even think that, you know, I know the real. If you want the real, you don't want the fake.
Jada
It was the real.
Fat Joe
Everybody ain't willing to say this. That's why you never heard it before.
42 Dugg
You know what I think?
Fat Joe
What?
42 Dugg
I think he got in trouble, was like, this Your name. This all night. You got there. You got this.
Fat Joe
No. So they can't take what happened was.
Jada
That would have been.
Fat Joe
They called him and they stepped to him and said, gonna put you in jail. Cause you did this. Not speculation, not nothing. You did this to her. How about you sign over your catalog and you're publishing to us and we won't put you in jail? And he signed it. He fought a court case. And, you know, when it came time, he couldn't even pay for his lawyer. Also be clear that if he would have went to jail for other crimes, I'm sure everybody would have chipped in and got him the best lawyer in the world. But once you play with that crime.
42 Dugg
Sexual assault, you cannot control what he in jail for.
Fat Joe
Sexual assault, pedophiles, shit like that. Each his own. Bottle 18.
Jada
I can't really tell you.
42 Dugg
I don't understand. Is he in a federal penitentiary?
Fat Joe
No, no, he done. We never seen off any fence.
42 Dugg
No, no, I think he don't get.
Fat Joe
No, he never ever seen R. Kelly.
Jada
Because he just lied from us. But he getting out.
42 Dugg
I think Trump gonna get him.
Fat Joe
Hell no. Trump, though, let me explain something to you, Fat Joe.
Jada
He can't. He got nothing to offer him.
42 Dugg
Man, When Trump you gonna see him get so many motherfucking dots.
Fat Joe
I'm the last true R. Kelly fan. I'm not that trial.
42 Dugg
No, I'm a fan.
Jada
The fuck is you talking about?
42 Dugg
Crack.
Fat Joe
I watched every day of his trial. I prayed every day for R. Kelly that he beat it because he was my friend. Yeah. And I was hoping he wasn't guilty of this. And I prayed and prayed and prayed and hoped he was innocent. I'm telling you, I don't know if everybody else went to that trial. No.
42 Dugg
No.
Fat Joe
To that length.
Jada
What about now?
Fat Joe
Of death? I can't.
Jada
What do you have with him now?
Fat Joe
I just can't do it. I just can't do it.
42 Dugg
Hey, you know what?
Fat Joe
I want to. He done went to jail for murder. I didn't pay for every lawyer in the world.
42 Dugg
He did currently. Huh.
Jada
That's what.
42 Dugg
I don't know. He did back then. Like.
Fat Joe
Look, look, hold on, hold on.
Jada
Let me say something. Because you his.
Fat Joe
But listen, you gotta say. Look, I don't gotta say he's guilty. What you want me to say?
Jada
He did some illmatic shit because he did some bullshit and they've stashed it for mad years. He did some shit to little girls and then trouting happened till she was a grown lady.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Jada
So they threw that one out, but then they came with some other shit.
Fat Joe
The point is, he started. Fuck.
Jada
Yeah.
Fat Joe
The point is, if you allegedly kill two people and get away with it, OJ Simpson, you move to South Africa.
42 Dugg
Or you move to Vegas.
Fat Joe
You do not Diddy bop around the white people at Morton Steakhouse thinking you're. You slip on a banana pill, my Nigga. You getting 10,000 years.
Jada
Yeah.
Fat Joe
It is what it is. So the guy was hot and I guess he kept playing with fire. And then it was like, hello. And he has life, guys.
42 Dugg
Dang.
Fat Joe
They have an extra case waiting for him in Chicago. That has nothing to do with this. That they said if by chance.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
Chill.
Fat Joe
He got enough. If he ever attempts to come out, we got this one on him. He's done. God bless.
Jada
I gotta get the out.
Fat Joe
You don't want to listen? I don't.
Jada
I can't understand.
Fat Joe
There's a guy who, you know, there's a. I'm. I'm telling you what I'm.
Jada
He's got a layaway case.
Fat Joe
I don't think so. He's got. Listen, he's got a 30 year federal sentence from New York for racketeering and trafficking with an appeals court and it was held up and they hit him with a lot of bullshit. He also has a 20 year federal sentence from Chicago.
Jada
Look, he got New York and Chicago.
Fat Joe
But with 19 years concurrent. One consecutive. Okay, so 19 of that would be time served, right. In New York. And then he has to do a one. So it's a 31 year sentence technically. If you want to Google, Google the case they got sitting there for him for whenever he thinks he's coming. Manuel Nor. Manuel Nor lay away all. Nor used to own Panama. The United States got rid of him, put him in jail. The minute after 30 years that thought he was coming home, France hit him with a case for 34 years. That's what they're going to do. Then you compare Manuel Nor Kelly is Matt R. Kelly is Manuel Norte. Biggest guy of our time besides Michael Jackson, bro. God bless the man. That's all I could say. You know, and the victims and everything. We. We not. You know, I. I wrote it out to the last. Trust me. I wrote it out to the last. People were telling me I'm crazy. I'm like, yo, I'm praying. I'm going this once you. Once you. There's nothing I could do. You know, it is what it is. All right, let's move on.
Jada
Top of the year, man. New project. Hey, nice game. What's up with the Pistons? They in first. They are in first place.
42 Dugg
Yeah, man. I'm trying to get like you, bab. They show you Corsair. You got a new coat on, a new watch.
Fat Joe
Can't play with these people.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
As I give them the pain.
42 Dugg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, me and my homie, we be showing me and baby. We was just looking at your baby. He like, yeah, can't nobody with big boy.
Fat Joe
He like.
42 Dugg
He like, damn. He fresh is out here.
Fat Joe
I'm going Christmas day. I invited him.
42 Dugg
Yeah, yeah. He got Y' all gotta go, man.
Fat Joe
My outfit premeditated. I'm telling you right now. I should just walk in there with yellow tape on me because this bad for the people.
42 Dugg
Yeah, man.
Fat Joe
Got to give me the hat. Your man Tmar, he been stalling the hat for a month. I've been telling him my outfit. Premeditated.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Standing by self there, just waiting to give him the business. Just. You know, I had you not listen to me. The Bronx ain't much different than Detroit. I ain't have they used to make fun of me. Kiss. You're not chop living yourself. You dip fresh all the time, too. Why do you throw that on?
42 Dugg
You gotta represent for D Block.
Fat Joe
Hold up. But he got it. What's the answer? You don't have an answer to? Why you think so much?
Jada
I like good clothes.
Fat Joe
Make you feel good.
Jada
You look good. You feel good, man? I mean, that's just sometimes. Sometimes I wear the same shit for a month.
Fat Joe
Oh, I can't do that grinding.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
Yeah.
Jada
Sometimes when they get back, I want.
Fat Joe
To remind myself, I did that in jail. I ain't doing that shit. That. Yeah, same shit. You wear the same shit for a month on 42?
42 Dugg
Nah, hell no. But I buy the same shit for a week. I might wear a different Nike tape for a week straight. It kind of feel like.
Fat Joe
What's the thing with the Nike tech that the kids always love it. I mean.
42 Dugg
I mean, it's like damn near it.
Jada
It's comfortable. Yeah.
42 Dugg
It's chill. Yeah.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
Yeah.
42 Dugg
It's chill like anything people is in.
Fat Joe
A Nike tech and black Air Force ones.
Podcast Narrator (Atlanta Is)
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Some reason they'd be like, I'm shooting someone today. Bring out the black Nike tag.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And the Air Force One.
Jada
That's the shooters.
Fat Joe
That's. This come to you with that. That black on. Just know that about to fly.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I'm telling you. Where you see yourself in the future, 42, man.
42 Dugg
Hopefully selling the catalog for a billion. You hear me? No doubt, man. I'm trying to get there. You know, I really want to put, like, the next person behind me in this position, and then I just want to fall back. You know what I'm saying? Just give me. Give me a bankroll that, you know.
Fat Joe
We'Re putting people on sometimes. Not all the times, but sometimes it becomes heartbreaking. Yeah, right. Because you go and you say you started, right? Your dream come true. You rapping. Did you know? We can't confirm that. You knew when you grew up in Detroit and you woke up that you was going to be iced out sitting on the Joe and Jada. We ain't know that. Right? So now you take whatever clout, leverage you got. You put the next man on. You use your juice. You get the right people to produce. You put rappers on they shit. You show them everywhere. Yo, 42. What's up, 42? Yo, this rapper, Jimmy Cricket. This is rapper Such and such. You blow them up.
42 Dugg
You know, I read somewhere, I seen somewhere where you was like, I ain't signing nobody up.
Fat Joe
Never.
42 Dugg
You like, somebody got out. Like, fuck Fast Johan. You like, I ain't stabbing nobody else that's on them.
Fat Joe
They can say whatever they want. I changed. Fat Joe has changed about 10 people's lives and made a millionaires.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And I come from shit. I just told you. I come from free Cheese. Welfare fucked up the Bronx.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And I took 10 guys and girls that didn't have nothing that said, all right, I'm gonna help you. And they over, bro. You know I discovered DJ Khaled. Do you know that? You never knew that?
42 Dugg
I suspected that.
Fat Joe
I discovered. No, no. You could do whatever you want. You want. You say whatever you want. I'm talking. You can say, okay, who gives?
42 Dugg
Do you get money from discovering Kelly?
Fat Joe
Let me tell you what happened. So anyway, I discovered Kav put him on his first seven albums, is on Terror Squad. All I do is win everything. All his success is his. I just gave him the boost. And the nigga ran and made nothing but number ones and didn't stop. But let me tell you about. There's an interview that Khaled just did with Joe La Puma. I don't know what that complex, bro.
42 Dugg
I watched that. He was crazy that beat.
Fat Joe
81 watches. 650 a watch, 800 a watch, 450 a watch, 300 a watch. This. This 81 of them.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Then he go outside the cars is a half a million. Million and a half. Half a million. This a nigga I discovered.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I'm sitting there looking at the screen. I'm like, this is amazing. Like, this is fucking out of control. I'm with him all the time, every day.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
One of my best friends on Earth, or Jesus Christ. He didn't even pull out the plane.
42 Dugg
Yeah, plane.
Fat Joe
70 million. He pull out the plane. And I'm looking at. He throw the on every day, too. He got a $10,000 outfit on. He no front, no gather.
Nav Green
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I go to his house, shout out Chef Melissa. Them bring out caviar for. But you win. You been there. They'll give you eggs with caviar on it. Lobster. These niggas ain't playing in there. There is no. I don't know what to tell you. I pulled them. Maybe I don't do it no more, but maybe around Covid and all that, I pull them to the side. I say, you sure you got the bag like this? Like you like. I've never seen Unconsciousness of blowing the bag. I've never seen it in my life. This my guy buy another watch. He said, joe, I'm good. I told you on his show I made a million dollars. I ran over there so fast to tell him, and he was like, yo, what you want to tell me? We sit down in this backyard. I said, nah. He said, hold up. You know, I just did a Colgate commercial. Five million in my bathroom ain't leave my house. What you was telling me? I Was like. I felt like a crackhead. I couldn't even tell him I made a million dollars on shit. I turned around, shut the fuck up. But look at the blessings. Look at all the people he helps, all the people he employs. So all the people he helped get on that came from here. This is the family tree. And we could go along the line, man. Scott Storch made 85 million 11 year. I just met Scott Storch, Fat Joe. Yeah. Scott Storch was doing all that music. Nobody with him himself. You know, he did Steel Dream, all them. He did all that?
42 Dugg
I ain't know he did. I just thought that was a routine.
Fat Joe
He do. Oh, yeah.
Jada
Nah, he made some shits.
Fat Joe
Oh, yeah. That's what you thought.
Jada
Anything you heard about that?
Fat Joe
Crimea river, all that.
42 Dugg
Yeah. You watch through the whole lie.
Fat Joe
Listen to me. He did all that.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Nobody gave him credit.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
As far as it went. There's a guy who did all the Tupac, we never. I don't know his name. There's a guy who produced all that. All our Zombies, all that shit, huh? Johnny J Money. Johnny J. We never heard him. I don't even know the girl's name. On doing it and doing it well, that's his shit. Yeah. What's the girl's name? Tell me you heard it how many times? There's a way for people not to get their props. There's a way for people not to get discovered. Yeah. I did Lean Back with Scott Storch. I said, Scott Storch. Next day, he had a hundred rappers at his door. After I mentioned his name. He already did. Still, Dre. This one, that one. This one, this one. The day I said, Scott Storch. He had a cheese line down the block. Your favorite rapper on there. He was like, yo, you got something? Got something that was walking out of there like this. I did that.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
85 million he made in that one year.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
After that, lean back. And he earned it. You know what I'm saying? He deserves it. But I mean, like, you know that, you know. But that's one guy who made all that money and used to tell. He used to have a boat behind his house, Scott Storage. Got the yacht, 100 foot yacht this, that. He told the captain, I don't care what time this man walk in this house. You take him wherever the he want to go. And boy, we used to abuse at 42. I was still young back then. We come after the club, nigga. Five in the morning, Yo, Captain, nigga wake up with shit in his eyes, we like, yo, we're going out sunset. We want to see shit come up. He get in that boat, we out there. You know, he was one guy. He's a very generous guy, Scott Storch. He really was. But, you know, that's what you do it for. You know, My favorite line was Jay Z's line. And I never know nothing, so I ain't gonna get it right. Y' all probably know it where he says, if we born, we be each other's crutches. If we fall, we be each other's crutches. So the concept is, you can't be the only rich guy you fall off. Your friends can't help you. Yeah, big mistake. We make the more of your friends that win. We hope they come through and they help you when you need them. Yeah, your team gotta be winning whatever they do. So whenever you need help, they'll come and help you.
42 Dugg
What about when they can't get it right, though? What you do? Substitute these niggas, what you call them? Like, clip. When you trying to help some motherfucker, but they can't get it right. They can't beat crutches if they don't get it right.
Fat Joe
On my team, they really want to work. They got a job.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Now this niggas don't want to work. Yeah. You wake up, you calling me five in the afternoon, yo, I got two bitches over here. I'm this and that. He don't want to work. I've had friends that never had a job in their life and was like, yo, take me to Jay Z. I'm like, for what? If anybody really want to work in the crew, they got a job. But we can't carry dudes that don't want to work or want to fuck shit up or fuck up the vibe up. You can't do it.
42 Dugg
Never.
Jada
I agree.
Fat Joe
Is the line you were speaking of. If your click is rich, your click is rugged. Nobody will fall because everyone will beat each other's crutches. Your click is rich.
Jada
Your click is rugged.
Fat Joe
Click. Your clique is rugged.
Jada
No one will fall.
Fat Joe
No one will fall because we'll be each other's crutches. That's how it's supposed to work. Now, I could tell you I went to jail for taxes. Nobody was my crutch. Nobody came and said, yo, my here's a dollar.
Jada
Nobody.
42 Dugg
Why?
Nav Green
This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy Nab Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nab Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. The Chiefs.
Fat Joe
What's a wrap?
Nav Green
It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now.
Fat Joe
Then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford, he ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.
Nav Green
Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better way Caleb Williams.
Fat Joe
Hey, he should be in that conversation.
42 Dugg
In what conversation?
Nav Green
He should be in it. Listen to broken play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Podcast Narrator (Secret World of Roald Dahl)
You know Roald Dahl, the writer who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda, and the bfg. But did you know he was also a spy?
Fat Joe
Was this before he wrote his stories? It must have been.
Podcast Narrator (Secret World of Roald Dahl)
Our new podcast series, the Secret World of Roald Dahlia is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary, controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans.
Fat Joe
What?
Podcast Narrator (Secret World of Roald Dahl)
And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either.
42 Dugg
Okay, I don't think that's true.
Podcast Narrator (Secret World of Roald Dahl)
I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelts, played poker with Harry Truman, and had a long affair with a congresswoman? And then he took his talents to Hollywood, where he worked alongside Walt Disney, Disney and Alfred Hitchcock before writing a hit James Bond film. How did this secret agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever? And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Fat Joe
Us, we are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
Lot of black women.
Fat Joe
Women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
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Fat Joe
Like, if we're on the air here and I literally have my contract here and I'm looking at, you know, as soon as I sign this, I'm going to get a seven figure check. I've told them I won't be working here in two weeks.
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Fat Joe
The thing I love about Atlanta is.
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Fat Joe
I really just had never experienced anything like what was going on in the city as far as, like, you know, seeing so many young, black, affluent creatives in all walks of life. The church had dwindled almost to nothing. And God said, this is your assignment. And that's like, how, you know, like, okay, oh, you from Atlanta for real. I ain't got to say too much. I'm Grady, baby. Shut up.
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42 Dugg
At what point do you go to jail for tax?
Fat Joe
Wow. You gotta pay taxes. Yeah. So America says, land of the first free. It ain't free if you do not pay your taxes. Yeah. Sooner or later they won't come and say, let's go. They got somebody in jail. Six months. Somebody in jail right now, huh? Or you just ain't pay well, you ain't paid. So you make a million dollars. I don't know what it is in Detroit. Here in New York, half a million goes to them. Gotta pay the taxes. That will put you out of business. Me personally, I paid my taxes. I had an accountant. And every month I was sending them wires like I was paying my taxes. The nigga was robbing me.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
So when they came to me and said, yo, you ain't pay your taxes, we went to the wires and was like, no, no. We sent this guy the wire every month. They said, you, as the leader of your household are responsible for who you hire to pay your taxes. And they fucked me. He stole my money. I wound up paying the shit again before I even went to court. And they gave me time. Guess what? When I came out of jail four months later, you got eight months. That eight months I worked my ass off to pay the money that I had just paid them. So say you owe them. I owe them 1.2 million without a penalty. They gave me a bigger penalty. 1.4 million penalty, right. So I paid them the 1.2. How about when I got out of jail, I had to work for eight months to pay them half of the 1.2 I gave them because they said, man, you had a good year. You just paid us. This shit ain't to play with the taxes. Do me a favor, take that serious, because they'll come. And then your whole life, they'll haunt you. Can't get a passport to leave the country. You can't get a license. You can't. Nah. They'll fuck you, Legend.
Jada
They don't play.
Fat Joe
Nah. They want their money. Or you can move to Dubai, where there ain't no taxes, there ain't no crime, the streets are nice, made out.
42 Dugg
Of marbles, and there's no deportation.
Fat Joe
Yeah, Dubai is deportation. That's little Dirk. In them is no weed. Damn, man. So you're really bothered if you had to go move somewhere? Yeah, but. So you went with no weed? Okay, what was that like? It was cool. Okay, let me ask you something. The second that plane landed, you left the bags, right? You wear it straight outside?
Jada
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
They brought it to the airport. But you ran past the bags. No, you did not stop for your bags. So you stop for your bag. You ran right outside and lit it up. That's me. With a Diet Pepsi, a Diet Coke. The doctor told me, stop the Diet Pepsi. Stop the Diet Cokes. I said, well, this is where we got a problem.
Jada
Yeah, you told them?
Fat Joe
No, I told him, you know, I'mma change the fluidity. You see, the water is more water than Diet Coke. But I got. It's like a drug for me. I gotta have it. So now we. Let's cue up the music. Look at the power of 42. Doug the man hit me up and said, oh, gee, I'm ready to come and throw that shit on. He came and sat on that couch. You know how many niggas told me they coming and can't come? I don't know if you understand. You know how many guys told me, yo, next week I'm in New York.
Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford
Too.
Fat Joe
I gotta Figure out who put you on the couch. Cause you just can't come on the couch. Yeah, 42 said, I'm coming with that on. I said, no problem. Come sit on the couch, baby.
42 Dugg
No, for sure. Appreciate you, baby.
Fat Joe
Yeah, 42 different, man, you know what I'm saying? He might be short, but he a giant, big heart. What's these songs, right? Let's go to this song right here.
Jada
Exclusive, but we lit what we got.
42 Dugg
Yeah, there's two songs coming from my upcoming project, Part three. I really, like, left it up to the fans to determine what the pick. No doubt what the part three is too, like, because I did part two one, one, two for home way burn. I did young and turned two. So instead of naming the young and turned three, where 1, 1, 2, 4, 1. Wayburn. Part three, I just named it part three. Yeah. And I'm like, y' all tell me, what was it more Part three of Young and Turn or Wayburn, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like it's a mixture of both this song that me and Skilla, me and Stella. He from two different sides, you know what I'm saying? So at first, me and his side ain't really rock like that. Rock like that, you know what I'm saying? So I got out and shit. I'm like, you know what? I ain't really got no problem, homie. You know what I'm saying? Plus, if it's gonna do better for Detroit, I'm all for it, you know what I'm saying? So me and him kicked it, and I'm like, send me something. He pulled up to the studio, he played me this song, and I'm like, yeah. I'm like, I need this one. I did some shit for him, and I'm like, let me take this one, though. He more like talk the. For the girls and all this. I'm more like in the streets with it, you know what I'm saying? So I, like, went over to his lane and, you know, I feel like we made a bad. This hard right here.
Fat Joe
What's it called?
42 Dugg
Thick one.
Jada
Let's get it.
Fat Joe
Let's get it.
Jada
Cranky Crockett.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. So many, so many. It's hard just to pick one. It's hard just to pick one. But if I got two. But if I got two. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the Thick one, I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one.
42 Dugg
She want the rich one, pick one. It's a gang of us in here. We trying to spend something rich over 200. I got three of these. Once I pay you for the baby, you can leave. My little CC she from DC Used.
Fat Joe
To suck dick for free till she.
42 Dugg
Met a pen I know I said five, but I got three bands. Hey, bro, want the thick one? I want the sister came from the kitchen, we do the cooking I know the bookies, I know the plug she selling, I'm selling drugs, you see me with cuz D in the A he running through the P, I'm running through the A's I'm catch you a play, make you a 10. How y wear lashes? You a kid grow her leggings my special, all that punishment, we back to stepping. Call up the stuffers, bring back the extra she got. I got a B cars on lock wheel, I'm paying cash that on?
Fat Joe
Bring that back, boy.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
No, I want the thick one.
Jada
Want the thick, thick one.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
Man, I want the thick one. I want the thick one. It's hard just to pick one. It's hard just to pick one.
Fat Joe
The officer crate, this ain't it.
42 Dugg
Rich one, pick one. It's a gang of us in here. We trying to spend something rich over 200. I got three of these. Once I pay for the baby, you can leave. My CC she from DC Used to.
Fat Joe
Suck dick for free till she met.
42 Dugg
A pan I said five, but I got three bands. Hey, bro, want the thick one, I want the sister came from the kitchen, we do the cooking I know the boogies like I know the plugs she selling, I'm selling drug you see me with cuz D in the A He running through the P, I'm running through the H Come get you a play, make you a 10 how you don't wear lashes, you a kid chrome, hard leggings, my pressure, all that punching, we back to stepping call up the stuffers, bring back the extra she got ass and I got a bag cars on lock wheel, I'm paying cash so many.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
So many it's hard just to piss Thick one, it's hard just to pick one but if I got two, but if I got two I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I.
42 Dugg
Want the thick one.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I don't care if you dark skinned or you red, long as you eat your cabbage and cornbread. You can hop on that table, it don't matter. Oh, you been in the gym, girl. That ass fatter, baby. Get it over, do your sheet, make it ass wobble. You so thick. Shake that ass, move your hips. You gonna make a come pay your rent, baby, you pressure. You so impressive.
42 Dugg
Singing like jelly.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
You're so damn sexy. You so damn sexy. It's so many, so many. It's hard just to pick one.
42 Dugg
But if I got too.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. So many, so many. It's hard just to pick one. It's hard just to pick one. But if I got two. But if I got two. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one.
42 Dugg
One.
Singer/Performer (possibly a featured artist on the song 'Thick One')
I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one.
Fat Joe
I want the dick crazy. It's a hit.
42 Dugg
I appreciate it.
Jada
January this week.
Fat Joe
You can't fool me.
42 Dugg
23Rd, man, this week, man, this week.
Jada
Make sure you get it all. Platforms, part three, part three, Every night, part three.
42 Dugg
Joe and Jada for having us on here, man. Real street. We respect y'.
Fat Joe
All.
42 Dugg
We with y' all the long way.
Jada
East side of Detroit.
42 Dugg
I like n y.
Fat Joe
I want the thick one.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Thick one.
42 Dugg
Yeah.
Jada
That. That shit's gonna rock. That is gonna rock.
Fat Joe
Yo, but how thick is thick? I seen this on Instagram. Hold on. Oh, hey, y'.
42 Dugg
All.
Fat Joe
I see some on. You gotta understand. Hey, I'm saying I seen some too thick. I don't know if you've seen it. It's a little dude on a racetrack with this girl. She's like an Amazon. Her. Like, what could he do with that? Like, she's. She the thicker than thick one. Yeah, she, too.
Jada
Thicker than thick one.
Fat Joe
Thicker than thick one. That's the remix. That's the remix. But, yo, this ain't that.
Jada
That ain't this.
Fat Joe
It's cracking. God damn it.
Jada
Make some noise for my folk, too, Duck.
Fat Joe
Yeah, appreciate y'. All.
42 Dugg
Appreciate y'. All. On me.
Jada
Look.
Episode Title: 42 Dugg on NEW PROJECT ‘Part 3,’ Eminem & Detroit rap, Bad Bunny’s bank account
Hosts: Fat Joe, Jadakiss
Guest: 42 Dugg
Airdate: January 22, 2026
This episode features Detroit’s own 42 Dugg joining legends Fat Joe and Jadakiss for a lively, unfiltered conversation about Dugg’s upcoming project “Part 3,” Detroit’s musical legacy, the reality of artist money moves, the evolving economics of hip-hop, and the cultural waves of superstar artists from Eminem to Bad Bunny. The trio swap industry stories, debate rap history, bring humor, and premiere exclusive new music.
The conversation is candid, humorous, and unfiltered. The trio trade war stories, joke about their own beefs and successes, and address sensitive, sometimes controversial subjects with honesty and street wisdom. There’s a continuous interplay of respect between generational artists, with both hard-earned lessons and celebration of hip-hop’s progress.
The episode closes with a listening session for 42 Dugg’s “Thick One,” energetic reactions from the hosts, and a celebratory, supportive sendoff for Dugg’s upcoming release. The recurring themes: stay real, uplift your circle, and keep hustling with purpose.
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