Amanda Serrano on Puerto Rico’s FIRST undisputed champ, Katie Taylor fights & future of women’s boxing

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Amanda Serrano on Puerto Rico’s FIRST Undisputed Champ, Katie Taylor Fights & Future of Women’s Boxing"

Joe and Jada (Fat Joe & Jadakiss), iHeartPodcasts and The Volume • April 2, 2026

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode welcomes Amanda "The Real Deal" Serrano – Puerto Rico’s first undisputed champion in boxing, multi-division world champ, and a driving force behind the rise of women’s boxing. Fat Joe and Jadakiss guide an engaging conversation about Serrano’s journey, her impact on Puerto Rican and women’s sports, the politics and business of boxing, paving the way for future generations, and her personal reflections on sacrifice, legacy, and empowerment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Serrano's Legacy and Impact as Puerto Rico’s Undisputed Champion

• Being Recognized by Puerto Rico and Legends ([02:46]–[04:53])
  • Serrano expresses deep pride at standing alongside names like Felix Trinidad and Miguel Cotto, and breaking new ground as Puerto Rico’s first undisputed champion.
  • "A little girl from Bushwick that grew up in Bushwick but born in Puerto Rico. But I stood true to my roots... I'm so glad that I'm able to give them something back." – Amanda ([04:37])
  • Fat Joe underscores the burdens and triumphs of being a woman in a male-dominated field.

2. Headlining at Madison Square Garden & Rivalry with Katie Taylor

• Historic Milestone ([05:00]–[06:36])

  • Amanda discusses being the first woman to headline a fight at MSG, selling it out twice, and going toe-to-toe with Olympic gold medalist Katie Taylor.
  • "It was just an amazing night to sell it out not once, but twice." – Amanda ([05:05])
  • She reflects on having few amateur fights compared to Taylor yet holding her own at the elite level, expressing pride even amid disputed decisions.

• Overcoming Boxing Politics & Judging ([06:36]–[07:49])

  • Frustration with controversial decisions and the politics of boxing judging:
  • "That hurts... You have three judges that determine if you win or lose. Depending on their opinion... they're gonna go towards that person." – Amanda ([07:22])
  • Joe shares parallels to their experiences in hip-hop, highlighting the emotional cost of subjective outcomes.

3. The Realities of Being a Female Fighter, Money & Recognition

• Breaking Pay Barriers for Women ([13:01], [42:01]–[47:59])

  • Serrano details the financial struggles women face in boxing – earning mere thousands for title fights while opening up about her historic $1M payday.
  • "I'm the first female to get a million dollars... We broke that barrier, we broke that ceiling." – Amanda ([45:24])
  • She insists on making pay equity public to motivate and inspire future female athletes.

• Sacrifice, Focus, and Personal Life ([43:00])

  • Amanda discusses the personal sacrifices—such as not starting a relationship—for the sake of focus and greatness, seeing retirement as a time to enjoy life outside the ring.

4. Crossovers: MMA, Women's Sports and Contract Disparities

• Exploring MMA for Opportunity and Respect ([15:45]–[17:13])

  • Frustrated with poor boxing contracts, Serrano explains her success and respect in MMA, where she was paid more for her pro debut than boxing championships.
  • "My MMA contract was bigger than my boxing contract... So it was silly. But then I guess boxing got a little jealous and they wanted me back. So then they up the money." – Amanda ([16:55])

• Spotlight & Opportunity for Female Athletes ([13:05], [17:13])

  • Emphasis on ESPN showcasing women’s boxing, validation of marketability, and the importance of role models and mentors.
  • "We just announced that we signed with espn... so the whole world can see." – Amanda ([13:11])

5. Style, Personality, and Approach to Fighting

• Entertainment Value & Warrior Mentality ([25:11]–[26:49])

  • Amanda commits to fighting for fans, never running or playing safe, and always trying to entertain even at personal risk.
  • "I'm an entertainer first... I want you guys to leave and say my God, that was a fight." – Amanda ([26:01])
  • Prefers test-of-heart battles, citing her war for the undisputed title as her favorite.

• On Weight Classes & Grit ([38:27]–[41:18])

  • Explains the challenge of moving up weight for fairer purses and legacy, noting the real difference even a few pounds can make against larger opponents.

6. Empowering the Next Generation

• Mentorship, Team-Building, and Opening Doors ([32:03]–[33:21])
  • Boasts a stable of over 40 female fighters, including standout mentees like Alycia Baumgardner and Elise Soto.
  • "Because of me, MVP... took a chance with a woman. I went out and I proved that women are marketable." – Amanda ([33:02])
  • Provides new fighters with better opportunities and pay than she ever received early on.

7. Diffusing Myths and Memorable Moments

• Can a Woman Beat Up a Man? ([08:21]–[09:21])

  • Discussion veers into physicality and street-fight myths, with Amanda joking she could handle herself against a disrespectful man.

• Sneakerhead Culture ([34:02]–[37:02])

  • The trio bond over sneakers, comparing collections and sneaker market value.
  • Tearful pride recounting first pair of Jordans in 2019, winning titles while wearing them.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Representing Puerto Rico:
  • Amanda: "I wanted to give back to Puerto Rico something that we never had, and that was becoming undisputed champion. And I did that... To this day... when my fight is on, the streets are empty." ([03:42])
• On Boxing vs. MMA Pay:
  • Amanda: "My MMA contract was bigger than my boxing contract, so I'm like, it just didn't make sense... it was silly for me." ([16:55])
• On Headlining MSG as a Woman:
  • Amanda: "To do that, it was just something. It was an amazing night to sell it out not once, but twice." ([05:00])
• On Braving the Politics of Judging:
  • Joe: "The sport of boxing... too many times where we thought somebody won and then they give it to somebody else. That gotta be like a no." ([06:36])
• On Being a Fighter First:
  • Amanda: "I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first, and then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to." ([01:00], [28:51])
• On Breaking Pay Ceilings:
  • Amanda: "I'm the first female to get a million dollars... we broke that barrier, we broke that ceiling." ([45:24])
• On Empowering Women:
  • Amanda: "Empowered women empower women, and that's what I'm going to continue to do." ([47:59])
• On Sacrificing for Greatness:
  • Amanda: "Dedication in her field of greatness requires sacrifice. I sacrificed my life to this." ([43:23])
• Fat Joe on Hip-Hop Parallels:
  • "You can't be a great storyteller if you don't tell the wins and losses." ([29:46])

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Timestamps for Noteworthy Segments

• [02:00] Introduction & Amanda’s achievements
• [03:42] Serano’s impact on Puerto Rican boxing
• [05:00] Headlining MSG & Katie Taylor rivalry
• [07:22] Politics and frustrations in boxing judging
• [13:05] On securing ESPN coverage for women’s boxing
• [16:55] MMA, contract disparities, and negotiation
• [25:11] Entertainer-first mindset, fighting style
• [38:27] Cutting weight, changing divisions
• [42:01] Early-career financial struggles, $1500 for world title
• [45:24] Historic $1M payday milestone for women
• [47:59] On legacy, empowering women, and opening doors

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Young Fighters to Watch

• Alycia Baumgardner – Headlining ESPN card on April 17th ([44:51])
• Elise Soto – 20-year-old protégé, 9 KOs ([33:09])
• Crystal Rosado – Puerto Rican rising star ([47:59])

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Final Thoughts

Amanda Serrano’s appearance offers a powerful lens on the realities, glories, and challenges of modern women's boxing. Her humility, fighting spirit, commitment to empowerment, and business savvy shine throughout the conversation. The hosts highlight parallels between boxing and hip-hop–from hustling for respect to the struggles of recognition and legacy—and celebrate Serrano not only as a champion, but as a trailblazer for Puerto Rican and female athletes alike.

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Transcript

[A]

I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first, and then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to. Plus, these girls don't hit that hard. So maybe if they hit hard, I will. I'll be a little like, keep my hand up, but. But.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. What up, y'? All? This Joe Crack the Dawn, you know who it is.

[C]

Your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we ain't gonna stop.

[B]

Talk slow for him, we ain't gonna stop destroying. Y' all

[C]

come at the rapidest pace you ever seen in this space.

[B]

I ain't never seen no shit like that. Go ahead.

[C]

Before, ever.

[B]

In this. Now you talking my shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kiss.

[C]

When you think of today's guest, you think of the real deal. You think of dominant female. You hear me? You think of dominant female, Puerto Rican, South park. You think of 31 KOs. You think of multiple unified champions. You think of multi Division Championships, 5 time WBA, WBAN Fight of the year.

[B]

That can't be easy.

[C]

Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guests.

[B]

I like that, Amanda.

[C]

The Real Deal Serrano.

[A]

Thank you. That sounds amazing. You could keep going and going and

[B]

going coming out of your mouth.

[A]

Your voice, I loved it.

[C]

Intro just made for you to say that. That's why. That's how I know I did it. Good job.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Welcome to the show.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's truly an honor to be here with big bro Joe and Jada. Watch your show. Love it to death. Always cheering you on. I'm super proud of both of you guys.

[C]

You feel. Thank you, thank you. But it's like you like an extended cousin on this show. We talk about you. I know probably been mentioned in at least 25, 30 of our shows.

[A]

I know. Sometimes I see it, I'm like, wow, Joe still remembers me.

[B]

Come on. It ain't too many like you. You know, when we talk about Puerto Rico, we talk about so many championship boxes and then you being a female. Because I don't care. In whatever perspective, whatever game, whatever job, whatever everything, they always. It's always harder for a female, no matter what. I don't care what people say now. Women are becoming bosses and everything, but still. But when I see them talk about the legendary boxers, now, they giving it up to you. Puerto Rico, the homeland is saying no. You know, they gotta face Trinidad. You, Wifredo, all the legends of all. And you're on there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, how does that feel? That is so strong to be acknowledged like that.

[A]

So surreal, you know, being next to those big names, coming from our small island. But we have so many great champions, big champions. It's truly an honor. And, man, I wanted to give back to Puerto Rico something that we never had, and that was becoming undisputed champion. And I did that. I became the first undisputed champion for Puerto Rico because we needed something. We needed to have something over everybody else. And I'm glad I gave that to them. To this day, when I go back to that, well, I live in the island, but when I'm there, people are like, man, you giving us excitement the way Tito used to give us excitement. And I'm like, for real. When I fall on the big stage, they tell me that the streets are empty. When my fight is on, the streets are empty. And that's something. Like, I get goosebumps just thinking about it. I get emotional because, like, wow. A little girl from Bushwick that grew up in Bushwick but born in Puerto Rico. But I stood true to my roots, my Puerto Rican roots, and they love me, and I'm so glad that I'm able to give them something back.

[C]

How did it feel to be the first female to headline a fight at Madison Square Garden?

[A]

Man, that was something I never thought would happen. It wasn't in. It wasn't a picture. It wasn't something that us girls growing up in the sport or starting the sport, we had something to. We see men headlining. We saw, like, me as a Puerto Rican sotito Miguel Cotto. But it never was a female doing that, So I never pictured that that would happen for a female. But to do that, it was just something. It was an amazing night to sell it out not once, but twice.

[C]

Shout out.

[B]

Shout out. The girl. You fought the girl. Because she ain't no joke either.

[A]

No. Katie Taylor, she's a gold medalist, Olympic gold medalist. She's pound for pound. It's me, her and Clarissa all pound for pound with three on the list. Always, always. Listen. People don't know. I only had nine amateur fights. I only bought. I started 2007. I was in Golden Gloves in 2008. That was my last fight as a. As an amateur. Only I never left New York. So to be in there with an amazing, talented woman. She had over 200 wins as an amateur. She started when she was five. I started when I was 18. So to be in the talks with someone like that, to be competitive with someone like that, you Know, some people say that I won. I believe I won two. At least two of them out of

[B]

the three fights I think you won.

[A]

But. But listen, just to even be competitive with her and just have my name next to her is truly an honor. And she was a great champion in and out the ring.

[B]

It would be hard for me to be like a professional boxer is when I know I won. And imagine you did the verses and they said, and the winner is. And you know, you said, you dick, you pussy, your neighbors, you did all that shit and they give it to somebody else. This, you know, boxers like Amanda, definitely the first fight. One billion percent. It was. Her fight was a lot clearer. The sport of boxing, right? We seen too many times where we thought somebody won and then they give it to somebody else. That gotta be like a no.

[A]

That hurts. That hurts.

[C]

Politics and everything.

[B]

Yes, we know that.

[A]

We know. I've noticed that too. Because you train so hard and to have have it. Obviously the whole saying is, don't leave it to the judges. Yes, you can leave it to the judges. Because no matter where you're going, you have three judges. You put it on your line, on the line. You're going out there, you're fighting, getting punched. And it's up to three judges that determine if you win or lose. And depending on their opinion, sometimes they like boxers, sometimes they like brawler. Depending on what they like, they're gonna go towards that. That person.

[B]

I used to see this one referee, you definitely know who he is. This black dude back in the day, every time he reft, I knew some bullshit was going on. Every fucking time he came up in that ring, it'd be like. And the referee, I be like, oh, shit, we got this dude. He was in on the fucking. He was betting hard rock bets a long time ago, bro. I'm fucking telling you. Before the shit invented, he was. Every time he was in the ring,

[C]

I knew somebody, he met it before it was invented, bro.

[B]

Every time I watched this guy in the ring, I said some bullshit about to happen. He even jerked somebody. Somebody stood on the floor too long, he took too long to count. This guy was in on bullshit. Like every fight. Like, I'd be like, yo, this guy right here, you know, I mean, it's human, it's, it's, it's whatever. But the point is the thing about you, right? Could you clear a myth that I always wondered about? Could a woman beat a man up? Listen, somebody with you right now, dude on the corner. Yo, Mamika, come here. Being very disrespectful could you beat the. Out of him?

[A]

If it's one of those guys, yes. If it's not a train. Yeah, not a train.

[C]

Like.

[A]

Oh, I think I actually like one on one.

[B]

You might put the pain on one of these guys in Bushwick in the corner. Definitely gonna be competitive because sometimes I see the girls fight, I'll be like, yo, by the way, they might fuck you up, like, in real life.

[C]

Definitely.

[A]

I love saying, like, I'm walking down the street and I'm like, only if these guys. Look at these guys. Only if they knew I just. One punch. I can just.

[C]

I was playing clock.

[B]

Listen, let me tell you something. I'm at the verses, watching him and the dipset, and I'm there with Balanga Zendayas. I'm with three championship boxes, and some dudes try to front and take their chair, and I'm like,

[A]

I'm actually.

[B]

They probably thought Fat Joe was shot. You was there, right? Phoebe, I met. They probably thought Joe Crack was on. I was, like, trying to protect them. Little did they know, if these guys pound them out and they. They did, the boxes happen to be the nicest guys in the world. They're like, no, excuse me. These are tickets. This, this, that dude. Nah, son, y' all gotta give up these seats. Right or wrong? I said, yo, you know what, man? Suppose they are your seats, man. Let's say they are. We keeping them shits anyway. Fuck you wanna do, man? Y' all talking shit. Yo, they got the up out of there, but I did them a favor, saved them. Yo, these guys were three champions, bro. If they would have let them fist fly, them dudes was underneath the seats.

[C]

I don't think they could do that, though. You can't just beat up. You can't.

[B]

Listen, Mike Tyson, everybody can't touch them.

[A]

Listen, I. I don't know about you.

[B]

What's the rules with that?

[A]

I never. I never had a street fight. I've only fought in the ring.

[C]

See, that's the grace of God, because the people know if you can't.

[B]

Been lucky and blessed or something, and you decide doing.

[A]

Hopefully I don't have to. I mean, they say. I mean, if they know who I am, then they obviously want to press

[B]

charges trying to get some money.

[A]

I'm a nice girl.

[B]

Your man Mike Tyson definitely picked up.

[C]

He beat a lot of people up.

[B]

$50 million in lawsuits. I swear to God, like, every time I turned around, I was like, mike Tyson beat somebody up in Brooklyn. The guy won 2 million. Mike Tyson beat Somebody like when we was growing up.

[C]

What about that guy beat up on an airplane.

[B]

He got away with that one. Cause the guy was saying the N word with the R and all that. Like, you know, I got on the plane with the pilot. He was like, oh, my God, you're my second celebrity. You know, I was the pilot when Mike Tyson beat up the guy. This. He said the guy deserved it.

[A]

Yeah, I was just gonna say that.

[B]

Everybody do. Oh, he fucking with Mike too much. And, you know, that's something that happens with anybody who's in entertainment or famous. The people think they could talk to you. Like, they feel like, I bought your cd. I could tell you what. Whatever the. I want to tell you.

[A]

Listen, I'm not big as you guys, but I'm getting that too. And I'm like, okay, thank God. I'm always with Jordan. He's my manager, my brother, so he's always. And he's pretty big, so he's always.

[B]

Happy birthday.

[C]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday to Jordan. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Speaking of how with all of that stuff you just said, we gotta rewind that. She. You know, what kind of deal she got? She got a lifetime deal. Then she becomes the chair. Then she runs the front office after, when she retires. That's the incredible.

[A]

Y'.

[C]

All right.

[A]

You have to think about after you retire. Most likely. This is my last year. I'm going for the knockout goal. Kristi Martin has 32 knockouts, so she's had it over 20 years. So I'm 31. I'm like, one more to tie it to break it. So I'm like, it would be silly of me just to hang it up before I do it. So it's right there. And once.

[B]

I'm already going to Hard Rock bets.

[A]

Yeah. Yep.

[B]

Don't do it. I know you're going to do it.

[A]

If Bam.

[B]

Out of Bio could score 83.

[A]

But definitely. And then. And so you have to start thinking about when I retire. And that's 100%. I'm all about my women, women empowerment. And I want to see these women grow. I want to see the sport of boxing grow, continue to grow. We're doing amazing things. We just announced that we signed with espn, and that was something that's a big deal for us to have women showcased on such a great network so the whole world can see that. So many talented champions out there. And I'm excited. I'm excited to see the sport grow.

[B]

It's great that you've shining the light on it and Taking it to another level. Like we just came back from nascar. I guess that's where you get the racing shirt from and all that. You caught the.

[A]

It looks good. It looks good.

[B]

Yeah, but love it. You caught the same from nascar. Not that.

[C]

Well, it looks like.

[B]

Yeah, this, that they ain't got the. Yo. But I'm saying we learned about African American driver in like the six back in the day, but we never knew.

[C]

We try to smuggle our history. Yeah, that was crazy. His family came up, his son and his grandson. Yeah.

[B]

You know, from Virginia. So it was like, it was like, you know, sometimes. So there's. Who are great champions that came before you but didn't get the spotlight in women's boxing.

[A]

Well, I mean, everyone knows Layla Ali, Kristi Martin. I mean, they had their spotlight at the time, but it still wasn't as big as it's gotten now. But look, my sister, Cindy Serrano, not too many people know she's the one who inspired me to get into the sport. She was a champion as well. She's just retired. She became a Hall of Famer for New York and she's been working on the big one, which she definitely will be going on. But at the time she wasn't getting the pay or recognition. I'm super blessed that now that I got lots of money that I can take care of her and give everything back to her. Like, well, not everything, but give back to her because she opened the doors for me. But there's a lot of champions that there's. Couple of Puerto Rican champions. These girls like a Melissa Hernandez, they were great champions, great fighters, but they didn't get that spotlight. And I'm glad that now it's changing a little bit. Part of a great company, MVP that's helping the women grow beautiful.

[C]

With that being said, how do you feel about MMA and the money and the media shine and spotlight that they put on that?

[A]

Well, just in case you didn't know, I am on the feet in mma.

[C]

Well, I did put. I did say dominate.

[A]

I'm two zero and one in mma. Two by submission, not by knockout. So that's something I'm proud of.

[C]

Submission is. Even submission is incredible.

[A]

Yes, yes, I love it. But I actually went to MMA because at the time my boxing contract, I was already a five or six division world champion. And I was getting. My boxing contract was. Excuse my language, but was, oh, shit.

[C]

We know about. We know about shitty contracts.

[A]

It was peanuts. And I saw.

[B]

I spoke to the lady the other day that owns the Liberty. It's the Asian lady.

[C]

Oh, Josiah's wife. Yeah. Her husband owns the Net, and she owned the Liberty.

[B]

Oh, I ain't know. But where you. I was fighting for the girls, for the higher pay and all that. She's down with it, but, you know, they.

[C]

Everybody gotta be down with it, though.

[A]

Yeah. No.

[B]

Yeah. So she was telling me, and I was just like, yo, there's no way the sport could be so big, and these girls gotta struggle to get paid. Like, all that shit is unfair.

[A]

No, it is. And then I saw how MMA was treating the women with more respect, more spotlight, more money. And that's why I decided to go to mma. And actually, my MMA contract was bigger than my boxing contract, so I'm like, it just didn't make sense. And it was my pro debut. I was making more money than having a championship fight in boxing.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

So it was silly. Silly for me. But then I guess boxing got a little jealous and they wanted me back. So then they stay up the money. So that's what you need to do. You need to. Yeah, bargain. Negotiate yourself. Like, listen, you know, if you don't love me, I'm going to go somewhere else.

[C]

Bidding wars going on out here, man. You know, you got to respect the value.

[B]

You know what's crazy is sometimes the reverse happens, right? So I remember one time I told these guys, yo, you know, I don't want to be on this record label no more. It was like, all right, fine. Sign right here. Not a problem. I was like, damn. I thought they gave a. They were like, you can leave now, Joe. Not a problem. Like, see you later. I was like, oh, let the doorknob hit you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[A]

But I bet they regret it.

[B]

Oh, big job. Every time I see them, they tell me that it's been 30 years. They be like, yo, Joe, we should

[C]

have never let you go.

[B]

Should have been robbing you forever, huh? Ain't that some bullshit?

[A]

Yeah, but it falls money everywhere. You're getting robbed everywhere. So it's unfortunate.

[B]

You never stop getting robbed.

[A]

I know.

[B]

So you know, I've done got my heart broken. One thing about money, it'll turn honest people bad. Like, you know what I'm saying? When you give someone too much control of your money and so much trust, and me, believe it or not, I got fucked so many times in my life. Pause. That I still trust.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know that it's just in my nature to trust. I just let you what they say you give you enough Rope, you hang yourself. And then I'm just like, all right, that's it. Once I know you done for life. And let me tell you something, man. I noticed about. All right, we gonna keep focus. But one thing is this, guys. When you as a member of a

[A]

team

[B]

and you're no longer a member of the team, you did something. And I'm not just. I'm not talking about Fat Joe and Terror Squad. I'm talking about anybody. Because I see guys who used to be down with somebody. Now their new profession is going around YouTube doing these interviews, talking about who they used to be or who they was. And niggas is 55, 60 years old, talking about how they held it down to junior high.

[A]

Who.

[B]

No, no. When you're not down, that's how you start the shit. That's how you start the shit. Then I get the beef with everybody in the dirty section. I'm not talking about me. I'm just saying, listen, guys, there's a rule to the streets. There's always been a rule. If you're not down no more, we will never mention you again. When we're sitting in the car, we don't even call you by your name. If you ever come up and call scrams or fams or you are nameless forever and it doesn't have nothing. I'm not talking about me. I watched an interview on YouTube this morning where the guy was like, yo, they don't mention me. How about you're not down and you're telling stories about 40 years ago when you was down. You're not even like, what are you. Did you have. Do you get that? Like, you from Bushwick, you in Puerto Rico? You definitely must have been up on Chinchero or something. Like, they had to, like, you had to get. Somebody was cool with you before. Ain't cool with you, ain't got that.

[A]

I mean, that never ends. But lucky I've been around, my family have been blessed, so they have always kept me in check. I'm not a Bochincera. I don't go out there and gossip. That's not what I do. Obviously, you see me on social media. You see me in my press conferences. I'm not the. The person. I'm not the loud person. I do everything I have to do. I handle my business in the ring or in the cage. And I go out there and I be the best version of myself, the best me. So I do my talking with my hands in the ring.

[B]

Yeah, you know, hip hop is different, though, bro. Like, I'm like, hip hop is fucking crazy. Like, I watch these people. You ain't hang out with the person in 30 years or 20 years. Like, yo, this shit is insanity to me. I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't.

[A]

But is that. Not everybody with my same last name. We're related with cousins.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not even if you're. If you're a celebrity, it's always. It's going to happen. People are going to talk, stop if you're doing good, if you're doing bad. And they always, yeah, but what I

[C]

keep seeing, damn if you do, damn if you don't.

[B]

What I keep seeing, these same guys say is why they don't mention me. They'll tell you. They won't say every dude, you want one? You don't want one. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[A]

Now I'm watching.

[B]

Listen.

[C]

Don't do that.

[B]

Huh? You don't want one. Listen, I want to hear one.

[C]

He wants one.

[A]

I want to hear one.

[B]

He wants one. Because these guys, they love that. They love that.

[A]

Yeah, you can't. You can't give it to them. No.

[B]

I'm just sitting there looking at some other guy who allegedly was down with some other guys, and he's like, yo, they don't mention me when I see them tell the story. How about, listen, breaking news, headline. You're not down anymore.

[A]

My n. But if you mention me,

[B]

I even see that with the rats in the mafia, like, they. The rats. Yeah. Once again, you told. Like, you got to go over there. There's another section that way. No, no, it's another section in jail. You can't be in the. In the. In the with the real guys. I don't give a fuck how many niggas you killed. You told you out of this other side. Yeah, you. You can't be here. You know, and so that's another thing. Right. So anyway, let's leave that.

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[C]

What kind of music do you listen to when you train and do you listen to different music when you train it for MMA and training for a fight?

[A]

No, my, my music is and, and and some rap. It depends on the. The person the rapper that that I. Yeah, big time. So that, that gets me going, especially my body boxing.

[B]

Right. You just stand there. I don't want to say like a man but damn, you tough man. You, you in there and I watch pause from the back. You just be like boom, boom. Like a fucking machine. Like bang, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. And you, the reason why you're so sex so successful is you give everybody a great show.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

That's one of the worst things when we watch a fight, we get hyped for a fight and they scared for 12 rounds. They running around wrestling and scared to throw. You go up in there and you sacrifice everything.

[A]

That's one thing. You're never going to see that from me. I'm an entertainer first and I want to go in there. You guys are spending your money to come see me or you your time is valuable as well. So you're spending your time watching me fight. I want you guys to leave and say my God, that was a fight. I don't look, I spent a lot of money on my outfits, but I don't Mind them getting dirty or bloody. It's funny because I am the complete opposite of what you see in that ring. I'm like, I'm a sucker. Outside of the ring, I'm a crybaby. I don't know. Once I go through those ropes, I'm a different person. I'm the real deal in those ropes. And that's what you're gonna see. And now with this record that I'm trying to break, you're gonna continue to see that. Because I have to get those knockouts because I need to break that record. So that's what I want to say. Don't.

[C]

Knockouts don't come.

[B]

I even see you sometimes in the crowd as a fan being frustrated. You be looking at fights and you see boxers, you know, and they ain't putting in that work. And I see you. Sometimes I watch on TV or I get the fight and I see Amanda in the crowd and I'm like, she's like, man, you better fuck this chick.

[A]

I'm kind of biased because I fight the way I like to watch fights. I love to go in there, you know, you're putting everything on the line. Yes. But you want to go out there and put a show. Like, I want to see that. I want to see one get knocked down, get up and knock the other one down. Like, actually that's, that's like a dream fight for me. Like, I get knocked down and I get back up and I knock the girl down. And we go back and forth. Obviously I win, but, you know, and when I became undisputed champion, I fought a Mexican, Erika Cruz. This girl, she's obviously a Mexican fighter, but I always said, I want to fight where we just going back and forth, back and forth. I saw Jordan there, my trainer, and, and he was like, you're nuts. I said, no, that's the fight I want. And for it to be undisputed, something, the first coming out of Puerto Rico, I want it to be that fight. I could have boxed that girl easily. Like, she just, she was just flat footed and come forward like I could have outboxed her easily. I said, no, I'm gonna go there toe to toe with that girl, and I'm gonna show Boricua. Puerto Rico and Mexican fighters, they bring the best out of each other. And I did. It was a ten round war. We was both bloody. And I became undisputed that night. And my, my outfit was all bloody down to my sneakers. But people remember. People remember that. Yeah.

[B]

You know, one of my favorite boxes of all Time was Diego Corral, rest in peace.

[C]

He was on that type of.

[B]

Oh, Gotti.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

These are guys that. They hit the floor, they get back up and knock you out. Then you knock them out again, and they knock you out. And then.

[A]

That's the real shit now is everything's a business now. These people, they want. They babysit their undefeated records. They don't want to take a chance. Listen, I have. I have four losses now on my record. But listen, I'm still number one, One of the pound for pound, best female fighters. People love to see me fight because I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first, and then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to. Plus, these girls don't hit that hard. So maybe if they hit hard, I will. I'll be a little like, keep my hand up, but. But no.

[B]

Shout out to Edgar. Edgar told me you and him sparred when y' all was kids. And you. Yeah, you hit that. He said, you want. Yeah, he said you woke him up. He said, bong. He was like, oh, my God, I better watch it with this girl. This girl. You lit him up.

[A]

Yeah, he knows. He knows, but I can't F him now. You crazy.

[B]

He was always to myself. I said to myself, because I don't sleep on nobody, you know. Almost got beat up by Roy Jones one time. You can't be a great storyteller if you don't tell the wins and losses. Of course, you gotta say the truth. When Roy Jones came to me, he was gonna knock me out. I was grabbing his wrist like this, like, champ, don't knock me out. Champ, chill. I knew what he was gonna do, and it wasn't even gonna. He ain't had to go like this. He just bounced real quick. He done put me out. I gotta. You know, so I always watched and I said, damn, man, you know what? A female could knock a dude out. I don't care. Like, is there like. Like. Let me leave that one alone. You think a female boxer ever knocked her husband out? Like, caught him cheating or some wild shit?

[A]

I'm pretty sure.

[B]

Put him out, right? Ain't nobody bragging about that shit, right?

[C]

Gotta say, the losses with the.

[B]

What you gotta say the lost is with the way. I don't think nobody. I. I think, like, yo, she was Layla Ali, though. She put me out the bus. She smoked, yo, but you gotta. You gotta be careful. You know, in hip hop, we almost like boxers. We gotta have a undefeated record. The minute you on camera, getting your ass whooped. You don't like that rapper no more, it's over.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

You ever knew that?

[C]

Yeah, I never got my ass all right.

[B]

No, no. My thing is, I had beef for 50 cent for six years. And I knew wherever I seen him, we was gonna fight or worse. Every day. I knew I could be on World Star. He might be on World Star. That's a different type of waking up in the morning, right? That's a different kind of Christmas. It's like. And I'm Fat Joe, he, Coc, Diesel, 50 Cent. I'm like, yo, man, wherever I see him, this shit gotta get. What do you wanna do? Yo, James, we putting you on the fucking couch. Next show, James Cock Diesel.

[C]

They don't like that.

[B]

They don't like that. That's the flag. These people crazy out here, man.

[C]

What's the one thing you want new fans to understand about female boxing?

[A]

Listen, we're here, we put in the work just like the men do. We sacrificing our lives, our brain, our bodies. And we want to entertain you guys. We want to go out there and we want to be able to make some money like the men. We want to be able to showcase our skills like the men. But now, little by little, I'm so glad that I opened a lot of doors for these women, you know, because of me, mvp. They took a chance with a woman. They weren't sure what women can do. I went out and I proved that women are marketable. We can fight, we're champions, we're talented. So now I have a whole. My whole roster is over 40 women. And I'm grateful.

[B]

I love that girl. Bum Gardner.

[A]

Yeah. Alicia's.

[B]

She gets busy, huh?

[A]

She's part of the team. She's a beautiful girl, in and out the ring, you know, she does her thing and, you know, the future is bright for her and all the girls on the team.

[C]

Yeah, who's some of the other young up and coming female boxers? You think?

[B]

Who's the girl you mentoring? You mentor?

[A]

Yeah, I managed to. Elise Soto. She's 20 years old, she's 100 with nine knockouts. She reminds me of that before.

[B]

You said it before. She was probably never even had a fight. You was on. You was saying, yo, she gonna be a champ.

[A]

Yeah, I spar with her. I'll be putting a beats on. She's still coming back. I'm like, girl, I think it's the age. I think it's the age.

[B]

Yo, man, I wish you could live Forever, man, I wish you could be 60 beating.

[A]

Oh, my go. I wish.

[B]

Amanda, boy, let me tell you, boy, she don't play that, man. And, yo, you know she loves sneakers. She took it easy today on us with this.

[A]

Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm trying to be like big bro here, you know, I had to show them

[B]

it. Saw the collection and all that, you know, I put Jordan and them on to you. Like I've been told them. I was like, yo, Reggie, this the girl? She fights Jordan?

[A]

Yeah, but you need to give him another call.

[C]

Yeah, you got a broken ass, man.

[B]

We was with him last. I swear to God, I try to make it happen, Reg.

[C]

Make it happen, Reg.

[A]

Tell me about it.

[B]

Yo, Reg, y' all gotta give her that shit. Like, do a fucking pe with or something. Like, she deserves it. You be. You be fighting since 2008. Was that legal or.

[A]

Well, it is now. If it wasn't. I made it. I made it.

[B]

But since she go in the ring with Jordan.

[A]

2019, I started my first time wearing. You know what's so funny? It was that how's the beautiful thing. As a kid, I was never poor. I was never. I had a beautiful family. My dad always worked to make sure we had food on the table and a roof over our head. So my first pair of Jordans was in 2019, the Concourse 11. And that was the first time that I fought with them. Was that same sneaker that I fought. I made his three. Became a seven division world champion in 35 seconds with those sneakers on. So it's, like, cool. Like, my first pair of Jordans, I wore them in a fight.

[C]

You're getting the Jordan deal, man. Jordan family reach out to her. People just doing the right thing.

[B]

I told him already. He knows. I've been showing him footage of her. Like, I'm like, look, she walks in the ring with the Jordans. Just the one. Just the one.

[A]

And then it's Jordans that you buy in the store.

[B]

We buy Jordans.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He was just. Let me tell you something. Me and this guy, we have a serious problem with sneakers. Like, the first thing we did, we seen each other, he was like, yo, I caught these. I caught those. You heard these are coming out. These are over here. We did. We went to LA and lost our mind. All Star Weekend. He's in one store. I'm in one store. He's in one store. I'm in one store. He's in one store. And we just getting sneakers. We buying sneakers and drops.

[A]

I love watching you guys Do. Listen, I'm not. Definitely not a sneaker head. I have lots. I just love sneakers. And I've been by ever since that. Ever since 2019. I just been into them, into Jordans, and now I'm going over to Adidas, New Balance. But your collection is amazing. Like, it's like pound for pound. Number one. Number one. And I'm, like, even going to the elevator to go see sneakers.

[B]

Purple Rain. Purple Rain.

[A]

I think one sneaker is probably not even close to my whole collection that I have.

[B]

Yeah. But you want to know why? It's the love. And let me tell you something about collecting sneakers. Just buying sneakers. You never know, in the future, that sneaker might turn into something worth 10, $20,000. There's plenty of sneakers I've bought that. We bought them when they first came out, and four years later, they worth 7,000, 10,000. Like, it just be like a jewel that everybody want to get their hands on.

[A]

You need to take me shopping one day. I need to get. I need to get a couple of jewels for retirement.

[B]

I got you. That's. That's.

[A]

That's. You. Definitely. You definitely inspire me.

[B]

You need them pink Air Max. They just came out for the girls. The pink Air Max. You need them Air Max 95. The pink joints came out for the girls. They ain't come out for the. Well, I got them.

[A]

Oh, bragging. Okay.

[C]

I got them yesterday.

[B]

You got them in girl size.

[C]

They only come out in girls.

[B]

Damn. How I get them? I got them.

[C]

They got girls with feet. That's your stuff.

[B]

That's great. But I get so upset. They did these I thought were gonna be girls, and they came out for guys, and I get so upset. Cause y' all get the fly colors. The women get the flyest colors. I go and they be like, nah, it's for girls. I'm like, yo, my man. Like, why I can't get them? Guys with smaller feet, they lucky. Like Mayor. What he. What's Mayor? Eight and a half, nine?

[C]

No, he used to be eight, nine, and nine and a half.

[B]

Now you lost weight. You know your feet lose weight.

[C]

Not from a nine and a half to an eight and a half.

[B]

What kind of feet lose weight?

[C]

What kind of feet did he have?

[B]

How hard is that? When I see fighters getting ready to get weighed in and all that, and they gotta lose an extra two, three pounds.

[A]

Yeah, lucky. I never had to. I never lost anything on the scale. I never lost any of my titles. I've always come in professional. I always make sure I do what I have to do.

[B]

How hard is that?

[A]

But it's very hard. And funny, me going up in division is a lot harder than me losing weight. I'm a small girl. I went down to, I won a title at 115, but going up to like 135, 140, that's a little rough for me because I walk around at 135 and once I start training, training, the weight just comes off so easy and I have to go after the gym, stuff my face and eat and it's just.

[B]

Or you got to do the reversal.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You got to work out, you got to work out that.

[A]

And to me that's hard because when you feel so stuff and sluggish, you don't perform the same way and you feel heavy. Like, I feel my best at featherweight 126. And that's where I am the champion, unified champion. So to me, I'm undefeated at featherweight in 120, at 126. But when I go up, I'm taking chances. Those girls are going up as well. They'll drop down and they'll make the weight, but then they shooting back up after the weight.

[B]

Something I never understood, right? And you could let me know because this is your life, right? Obviously you can't take a 350 pound guy to fight a 150 pound fight. But does it really make a difference? Four pounds and five pounds. When they like, yo, I gotta go up five pounds to come down five eight.

[A]

It does, because listen, from one hundred and twenty six to one hundred and

[B]

thirty five, I don't know, I'm not a boxer kiss.

[A]

But what they do, they, they're straining themselves, they're making that weight the day of the weigh in. They make whatever weight they have to make. But then after that you start eating, you start bulking up, you start, you gain all that weight back. So, okay, when I fought Katie Taylor, the, the fight was at, the first time was at 135. I weighed in what, 133? 133. She weighed in 134. But I'm a natural featherweight. So the night that we checked in, like we did the mock weigh In, I was 132. I lost a pound from the weigh in to. She went on the scale, she was about 140 something, right? 155.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

So she goes up. So the night of the fight, and that's like, that's like three. That's like three. And then she eats three or four more meals. So the night of the fight, I'm going in there fighting a girl 155 pounds, while I'm 133 pounds. So it does make a difference.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah. So that's why I always say I'm the best. I'm the queen at featherweight. It's hard. That's where I feel my best at. Every time I go up, I'm taking a chance. And not too many people, not too many girls or men are taking those chances or making those sacrifices to be great. You know, I'm the first and only seven division world champion. And to me, that's a bigger accomplishment than any other thing because it's not easy going up and down in weight and especially winning in higher weights, where I feel like, well, it definitely says

[B]

you never duck nobody because, you know, somebody going seven divisions and winning, that's another thing. You know what I'm saying about boxers, where boxers, you know, duck other people. You know, maybe I don't know the game, but.

[C]

But when babysitting the belts, you heard it.

[B]

Muhammad Ali was fighting everybody. You know, the boxers was fighting people back in the day.

[A]

No, I'm telling you now, it's a business. Like, even for me now at this part of my career, like, I'm towards the end, Joe, you know, I fought in the beginning of my career for peanuts. Like, there was championship fights. Like I tied with Miguel Cotto becoming a four division world champion for what?

[B]

Four thousand bag? Four thousand dollars?

[A]

That's not the lowest. Oh, 1500. Fifteen hundred dollars for a world title. Fifteen hundred for. And you have to remember that these sanctioning fees, they take a percentage, the, the trainer fees, the cut man, all that. So by the time I'm looking at my account, I got like 250.

[B]

You remember Wu Tang? I used to do shows with Wu Tang. We used to get 500 a show. They had 13 dudes breaking off 500. I'm over here with 500. Like, this shit was crazy. I was like, yo, how are these guys gonna make it like this? It ain't nothing but McDonald's after that.

[A]

Yeah, but. But now lucky I can. I can eat at expensive restaurants. Before I couldn't exactly before I had to go to the dollar menu. But it's. It's amazing how it became, like, full circle. So now that I'm in this part of my career, will we ever see

[B]

you in a relationship in, like. Cause we ain't never see you booed up or nothing like that. You ain't never doing that.

[A]

When I retire, Joe, Yeah, but when

[B]

you retire, you might get booed up, hit a little red carpet, little something.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

I mean, wait, I say raw, dude.

[C]

I didn't say anything.

[B]

No, because she's been so dedicated that

[A]

that's the one thing takes. Dedication in her field of greatness requires sacrifice. I sacrificed my life to this part.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

And obviously I think it's worked. Look where I'm at right now. I'm on the Joe Slow. I'm not.

[C]

No, it's the real deal talking to y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Set your pace. If you never want to be in it, that's on you. But I'm.

[A]

I've seen. But I've seen it. I've been around it. And even as a younger teenager, being in the gym, watching these men and they having girlfriends and they being stressed out. Even my sister and Jordan, her husband. Her husband is her trainer, was our trainer. Ava is our trainer. And sometimes they will have arguments and my sister would be upset or, you know, one.

[B]

I had a friend that was a boxer. He had a girlfriend and just.

[A]

I've seen it. It drives him nuts.

[B]

The fucking training camp to come back in town.

[A]

Boxing brings me all the same emotions. Unless I'm happy. I'm sad, I'm crying, I'm. I'm excited. So I think when I retire, then I'll have time for myself. I'll be able to fight along in the sunset, maybe with a boo thing.

[B]

Maybe. Maybe you'll be eating the coconut on the beach. Eating the coconut on the beach. It ain't nothing like that.

[C]

Mvp. Your mvp. Women boxing is coming on ESPN when it starts.

[A]

So excited. It starts. Well, the debut starts April 5th or 6th. I'm not sure in the UK, but that's on Sky Sports. But it's going to be on the ESPN app. But the first official on ESPN, ESPN is April 17th at the Garden. And that's where Alicia Baumgartner headlining, defending her titles. So super excited for her.

[B]

And another question I just thought about, right, Aren't you like the highest paid wimp female boxer ever for a fight?

[A]

I am. I am. I'm the first.

[B]

Yeah, she's the fucking highest paid ever. Yeah,

[A]

it's truly an honor. Listen, I was the first female to get a million dollars, and I say the first because it was a Katie Taylor fight. So my team came back to me and said, we're going to give you a million dollars. We were so excited, so happy, so proud of that accomplishment that my manager, Jordan, said, we have to announce this because we have to show women that we can do it. We broke that barrier. We broke that ceiling. Let's do it. So when Jordyn did that, Katie Taylor was like, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. How much you getting? Because she wasn't getting that much. No, she wasn't getting that much. So her team had to go, yeah, she was the champion. I was the contender. But so then her team was like, okay, we'll give you the meal. So we both end up getting a meal. That fight that night, that was April. I mean, some people claim that they're the first, but in my calculations, in my calendar, April comes before October.

[B]

It don't even matter. It don't even matter. Everybody know it's real.

[A]

So proud of that moment. And look, we're getting not. That wasn't my only fight where I made a million, I made millions. I'm a multimillionaire. And I'm so proud to say that,

[B]

You know, what's crazy is or what's not crazy, but you know, what's the biggest blessing? And I think me and Feeb was talking about this. What Allah says, Feev, Allah says feeding somebody is the biggest thing you could do while you on earth. So not only. You didn't just say, this is for me. I want all the money. I want all of this. You opened up the lane for other females to come after you to eat and not get taken it so they don't have to get paid 1500 for their championship. And that is big. And so I believe that that's the type of stuff you get judged with, because when you die, they're not going to say, damn, Fat Joe was looking fly as hell on this. They gonna say, yo, he fed some people, man. He opened the doors for some people. He took care of his people, his community. That's where it's at, man. And. And so that's beautiful that you just didn't want to say, yo, I want to be the only. You know, there's people like that. I want to be the only one to eat. I don't want nobody to eat. I want to be that. And so that's commendable that you opening the doors for the women.

[A]

That's something I can do. I love. I'm a ladies lady. I love empowering women. They always say empowered women empower women, and that's what I'm going to continue to do. And I love it, and I love seeing these girls grow. Like, I have another girl, Crystal Rosado, Puerto Rican girl. For her pro debut, she made more money than I did at my championship level. So just to see that and, like, man, look. What. Look how far we've come. Look what I'm able to give to these young ladies.

[B]

That's a beautiful thing. Yo, this ain't that.

[C]

That ain't this. It's cracking. Kiss. Make some noise for the Real Deal, Amanda Serrano.