Angie Martinez IRL - Nikki & Brie Bella on WWE, Divorce, Reinvention & Who They Are Now

Summary

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Episode: Angie Martinez IRL - Nikki & Brie Bella on WWE, Divorce, Reinvention & Who They Are Now
Original Airdate: April 9, 2026
Host: Daniel Cormier (guest-hosting for Angie Martinez)
Guests: Nikki & Brie Bella (The Garcia Twins, formerly The Bella Twins)

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Episode Overview

This dynamic episode brings WWE Hall-of-Famers and reality stars Nikki and Brie Bella (now wrestling as the Garcia twins) front and center, delving deep into their unique bond as twins, their wrestling careers, individual identities, reinvention after WWE, coping with divorce, motherhood, and embracing new chapters. The episode offers rare vulnerability and insight from the sisters about identity, transitions, and self-acceptance, all while keeping their signature humor and candor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Twin Experience: Bond, Comparison, and Identity

• Never Alone, Always Compared
  The sisters reflect on their lifelong twin bond and how it shaped their outlook and resilience.

  • “We never experienced the first day of school alone…having each other gave us confidence.” —Nikki (04:26)
  • Downside is frequent comparison: “Being compared physically, mentally, like, how we were in soccer…in the wrestling ring…Anything we do, we get compared. But we’re not clones, we’re twins.” —Nikki (05:17)

• Establishing Individuality
  They shared lessons for parents of twins:

  • “Put them in different classes…Recognize the individual parts of them. Dressing alike is cute, but let them express themselves.” —Brie & Nikki (10:42–11:23)
  • Having separate friend groups and interests is essential for healthy development and self-confidence.

2. Navigating Partnership: Business, Personal Boundaries, and Therapy

• Business Partners and Best Friends
  The twins acknowledge working through boundaries as both business partners and sisters:

  • “We’ve had to really learn each other’s strengths and weaknesses…and even though I’m your twin, that isn’t boundaries.” —Brie (05:43)
  • Therapy sessions helped, jokingly dubbing it “twin therapy.” (06:08)

• Humor in Their Bond
  On being mistaken for each other:

  • “If someone thinks she’s Brie…and has a conversation, she just will go with it. Where I, right in the beginning, am like, oh, I’m not Nikki.” —Nikki (07:05)

3. Pursuing Wrestling: Origins & The Final Run

• From Hooters to WWE—Unlikely Pathways

  • Early jobs and the unexpected road to wrestling, motivated by college costs:
    • “We needed a waitressing job. Hooters was the only place…you could be 18 or older to work there. We were like, should we go in? We’d never been in a Hooters before.” —Brie (16:54)
    • “We were like, OK, I’m Breezy Fsheezy, you’re Nicole Fascho. We’re the Garcia twins.” —Nikki (02:59, 18:31)

• First WWE Audition—Behind the Curtain

  • The sexism and objectification they encountered:
    • “They’re like, you need to get in bikinis and…telling me to get a boob job. I was like, excuse me?” —Brie (21:05)
    • A supportive woman at the audition encouraged them after seeing their confidence shaken, leading to a developmental tryout where they truly fell in love with wrestling. (21:31–22:36)

• Joy, Magic & Transition

  • “It’s the most magical place ever…It’s the Spice Girls and soccer world colliding.” —Nikki (22:36)
  • Facing the end of an era: “It’s not just because, like, oh, it’s a career…I’m like, no, it’s life. It’s age. It’s a new era.” —Brie (24:54)
  • Wrestling again in their 40s for the tag titles feels “bittersweet” yet empowering. (23:58–24:37)

4. Reinvention, Age & Self-Acceptance

• Body Image & Confidence

  • The sisters are candid about wrestling culture's focus on appearance:
    • “When you’re wrestling half-naked on TV…you can’t help it. And a birth child and…birth the child.” —Brie (25:42)
    • On how insecurities fade over time: “In ten years, you’ll look at photos of yourself today and regret not appreciating it more.” —Nikki (26:23)

• Letting Go of Comparison and Potential

  • “You can’t fix anyone. If you trust your gut…your instinct is always right.” —Brie (39:46)
  • “You can't fall in love with the potential.” —Brie (41:13)

5. Divorce, Growth, and Healing

• Support Through Hard Times

  • Brie’s approach after her divorce:
    • Allowed herself to fully process by abstaining from sugar, alcohol, and even curating music for mental health:
      • “I wanted to feel everything for three months and just heal it…take it straight on mentally and physically.” —Brie (41:45–42:20)
      • “Your support group is so important. We’re not going to be victims. We’re going to cleanse this pain out of us.” —Brie (43:23)

• Spiritual Resilience

  • Recounted a powerful sign from God in the form of a double rainbow the morning after her lowest night:
    • “The brightest double rainbow just facing my home. No rain, no nothing…When I googled it, the meaning double rainbow is always like a sign from God.” —Brie (46:04)

6. On Relationships, Boundaries & New Beginnings

• Dating After Divorce & Role of Boundaries

  • Brie enjoys her newfound space and peace as a single woman and mother:
    • “I love my routines…couldn't imagine someone in that space now.” —Brie (30:47)
    • Admits to the challenge of dating as a busy, single parent.

• Relationship Advice

  • Nikki stresses building friendship before romance:
    • “You need to have a friendship and really get deep with someone before you take it to the next level.” —Nikki (36:13)
  • On expectations: “Expectations, I mean…that’s setting yourself up for failure…if you have expectations, see that at the beginning.” —Brie (40:47–41:10)

• Navigating Twin Closeness in Relationships (Listener Q&A Segment) [50:23]

  • Advice for partners of people with extremely close sibling relationships:
    • “My husband…looks at it as, now we have a tribe…he doesn’t have to force himself to do things he doesn’t enjoy with me because I can do those with Nicole.” —Nikki (51:12)
    • Importance of honest conversations about boundaries and alone time. (52:14)

7. Courage, Injury & Resilience

• Physical Setbacks
  • Brie details pushing through ankle injuries and past neck breaks:
    • “It happened right at the beginning of the match, and I finished the match…worst pain I’ve ever felt, over a broken neck.” —Brie (13:09–14:33)
  • On fearlessness:
    • “We’re very fearless, always have been.” —Brie (48:05)
    • “When I broke my neck…nothing in me felt like my career was done. Everything was telling me, no, we’re going.” —Brie (48:14)

8. Reinvention & Future Ambitions

• Entrepreneurship & Creative Projects

  • Planning retirement from public-facing roles; focusing on their wine business and podcast after wrestling:
    • “Our goal is, at 50, to be retired from the social media world…just be in our entrepreneur era…” —Brie (28:03)
    • Love for the Nikki & Brie Show podcast: “It’s our bread and butter…been eight years now.” —Brie (28:26)

• Motherhood as Triumph

  • Most proud of the legacy for their children:
    • “I look at my home and my son and…think, wow, I did that—I’ve overcome so much.” —Brie (55:24)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Twinhood:
  “We’re not clones. We’re twins.” —Nikki (05:17)
• On Boundaries:
  “We've had to go to, like, twin therapy for that.” —Brie (06:08)
• On Wrestling Career Finale:
  “It’s not just because, like, oh, it's a career…I’m like, no, it's life. It's age. It's a new era.” —Brie (24:54)
• On Divorce Healing:
  “I wanted to feel everything for three months, just heal it and go through it…anything that changes a mood, I wanted to feel everything…just heal it and go through it.” —Brie (41:45–42:20)
• On Embracing Age:
  “Age doesn’t matter. As long as you put in the work, you can do it.” —Nikki (54:27)
• On Growth:
  “I’ve learned so much in life, and I think I’ve just accepted that…this is just me.” —Brie (41:37)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:26] Twin experience and confidence
• [05:43] Navigating boundaries & therapy as twins
• [10:42] Tips for parents raising twins (separate classes/identity)
• [13:09] Wrestling injuries; Brie's perseverance
• [21:05] Objectification in early WWE days
• [22:36] Falling in love with wrestling; the magic of WWE
• [24:54] Navigating the end of their wrestling era
• [28:26] Entrepreneurship, wine business, and podcasting
• [31:36] Brie on single motherhood and dating
• [41:45] Brie’s self-care post-divorce (radical detox and healing)
• [46:04] Spiritual resilience: double rainbow moment
• [50:23] Listener Q&A: Navigating boundaries in close sibling relationships
• [54:27] What they’re most proud of: reinvention, resilience, and motherhood

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Tone & Takeaways

The tone is candid, humorous, vulnerable, and empowering. Nikki and Brie Bella openly share both their triumphs and insecurities, showing listeners that even icons wrestle with identity, aging, reinvention, and healing after heartbreak. This episode is overflowing with sisterly banter (“We’re Lucy and Ethel!”), hard-earned wisdom, and encouragement—for twins, women in transition, and anyone facing a new era in life.

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Recommended For:

• Fans of WWE and reality TV
• Listeners interested in personal growth, navigating family dynamics, and authentic journeys of reinvention
• Anyone craving candid, inspiring advice from powerful women at a pivotal chapter

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Nikki Bella]

You actually had no idea what was gonna happen, but in our heads, we're like, okay, I'm Breezy Fsheezy. You're Nicole Fascho. We're the Garcia twins.

[Daniel Cormier]

You were just down for whatever.

[Brie Bella]

And then when they're like, you need to get in bikinis and this and that, I, like, looked at her and

[Nikki Bella]

I go, where did you bring.

[Daniel Cormier]

Thanks for watching, guys. Today's episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. Most people spend their whole lives looking for somebody who truly knows them, who truly gets them. These two were born with that. They came up together, trained together, became two of the most recognized women in the history of professional wrestling. Two time Divas champions, WWE hall of famers, reality TV stars, entrepreneurs, mothers. And now they are back in the ring for what they say is the final time. It is the final time.

[Brie Bella]

Final run. Welcome.

[Daniel Cormier]

Nikki and Brie Bella. Yay.

[Nikki Bella]

Thank you. Irl.

[Daniel Cormier]

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[Daniel Cormier]

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[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

Thank you.

[Daniel Cormier]

You know what? One of the reasons I'm so excited today, I've never had twins on the pod.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, really? You're about to get weirded out.

[Brie Bella]

No, I'm so excited.

[Daniel Cormier]

No, I'm excited about that because I have. I have questions because I think your life experience is so much different than somebody who can't, like. I don't know, just. I'm sure your experience is unique. Something that twins probably only know, right?

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, my goodness, yes. I mean, even something as simple that people don't realize is we never experienced the first day of school alone, so we always had someone to walk in. And those, like, scary moments as a child when you're going to walk into a birthday party and you're like, are my friends here? Or school or any of that? I always had her.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

So I feel like at a young age, having those awkward, insecure moments, we really didn't have them as much because having each other gave us confidence. So just like those things molding us at a young age, I think different. What we call singulars, they're non twins.

[Brie Bella]

She calls singulars. I don't.

[Nikki Bella]

I think it's actually a scientific word.

[Daniel Cormier]

We are the same.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. You're the singulars.

[Daniel Cormier]

Oh, got it.

[Nikki Bella]

I think so.

[Daniel Cormier]

But there has to be another side to that. There's complications that come with anything good. Right. There's always another side, for sure.

[Nikki Bella]

Always compared.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, Always being compared to and, like,

[Nikki Bella]

being compared physically, mentally, like, how we were in soccer. Like, being compared on the soccer field, even in the wrestling ring. Anything we do, it's like, we get compared. And it's interesting. Cause it's like, we're not clones. We're twins.

[Daniel Cormier]

I just wonder if it sometimes has ever in your lives been a problem or something you had to work out.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, my husband would probably say yes.

[Brie Bella]

I know he probably needs to work it out.

[Nikki Bella]

I'm.

[Brie Bella]

I think for Bri and I, not only are we identical twins, but we're best friends. Yeah, we also. Yeah, we are also great business partners. So, I mean, we definitely, especially in the past two decades, have had to really learn each other's strengths and weaknesses. And, like, hey, that crossed a line. And even though I'm your twin, that isn't boundaries. We've had to go to, like, twin therapy for that.

[Daniel Cormier]

Is there twin therapy?

[Brie Bella]

Well, no, but we made it twin therapy. We. With, like, a life coach. It's just regular therapy. Yes, Therapy with a life coach who will help us through business things. And we do our twin sessions. Cause we would just need help with that.

[Nikki Bella]

Cause we humble each other.

[Brie Bella]

We do. Very quickly. And then we'll go get coffee. I'll be like, since I just cut you below the belt, let's go grab a coffee.

[Daniel Cormier]

So I have this one set of friends that I have that are twins. I know one of them a little bit better than the other, but we have a very close mutual friend. So I spend time with them on trips and things like that. You have a very meaningful conversation at dinner. And then I don't see her for six months. And then I think I just ran into her in the airport.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

And it wasn't her. And so from my experience, from the outside, from the singer, I'm like, oh, God, that was awkward. I was talking to her as if it was her, and it wasn't. But then I think, what does that feel like from the inside as you're, like, navigating? Like, you have a meaningful moment with somebody.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

But she plays into it.

[Daniel Cormier]

What do you mean?

[Nikki Bella]

If someone thinks she's Bri and they'll have, like, a conversation with her, she just will go with it. Where I, right in the beginning, am like, oh, I'm Bri, not Nikki.

[Daniel Cormier]

But there's nothing internally that happens to you or makes you feel insecure.

[Brie Bella]

Well, for me, I Feel bad. The only reason sometimes I won't cry is if either I feel bad or I know, like, I need to get, like, out of there quick. So I don't want it to turn into, like, oh, my gosh, I thought you were Brie. And then that'd be a whole conversation.

[Daniel Cormier]

Oh, you just go with it.

[Nikki Bella]

One thing I do find interesting, and what I love is if she does have her own friends and has, like, meaningful relationships, because we have a couple of our own. Like, we have our core group of best friends, but we have a couple out of that that we're closer with. But I feel like we need that.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, totally.

[Nikki Bella]

And not always, like, we need to hear a different point of someone who isn't experiencing everything that we have. And especially since the womb, it's like we've gone through everything together.

[Brie Bella]

Right.

[Nikki Bella]

And now, you know, like, even in life, like, with business and wrestling and motherhood. So I think it's really nice for us to kind of have separation like that.

[Brie Bella]

I also feel we have such different personalities, but we also love hanging out with each other, which makes us more like best friends. So we've been able to do this life together because it's funny, I look at Bri, I feel like, at times more of a bestie than a twin. A twin?

[Daniel Cormier]

Really?

[Brie Bella]

Well, I don't know how I think, because I like kicking it with her so much, just like my best friends. But I think this is. What. Don't you think this is why we've worked for so long? Because, like, for instance, we do have our own, like, best friends, where my personality meshes more with some and yours with others.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

But then we're all, like, get together, and we're all like, the crew, for sure.

[Nikki Bella]

Well, we've met twins who don't like each other, and I'm like, oh.

[Brie Bella]

Like, I don't get it. I don't understand that. That's some who are.

[Nikki Bella]

But they're insecure by the comparison, is what I feel like. And for us, we're each other's, like, biggest cheerleader.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

Like.

[Brie Bella]

Like, if I don't get something, I want her to get something.

[Nikki Bella]

Right.

[Brie Bella]

And.

[Nikki Bella]

And vice versa. And I also.

[Daniel Cormier]

That's really a big key to it. Right?

[Nikki Bella]

A huge, huge. And I was comfortable knowing that my weaknesses are her strengths. And I'm okay because I had things like she was. When it came to the soccer field, she stood out more and the skill set. But then I also had this other.

[Brie Bella]

Took you 30 years. Just kidding.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, I know. You're Kidding. Because I can care less. But, like, I also had this, like, artsy side to me and this expression that, like, that was your thing. Right. And my mom was good at, like, noticing that and kind of being like, how strong your sister is in these things. And, like, oh, my gosh, look at how artsy Brie is in this. So I think some twins. Can't they get so deep in that comparison that they kind of, you know, forget? Like, it's not competition with each other. It's like, you know.

[Brie Bella]

Right.

[Daniel Cormier]

Well.

[Brie Bella]

And I do feel like, though, that's why sports are so great for kids growing up, because you get used to whether it's teamwork or being a team and, like, doing things together. Or if you play individual sports, like, if you're a track runner, you learn competition, but you learn that respect of other people you're competing against if you're at a competitive level. And I feel like that helped us a lot too. Like, we went through a lot in sports, and I think that's helped us. That's helped. Helped us, for sure, succeed in this industry. We've had our runs as a tag team and individual, for sure. Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

Well, your parents did a great job. Yes. What do you, like if somebody just has young twins right now?

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

What do you tell them about how to navigate that world and so that they can have this type of connection

[Brie Bella]

and put them in different classes?

[Daniel Cormier]

Really?

[Nikki Bella]

I think you need that as much as just.

[Brie Bella]

I think it helps.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah. Recognizing the individual parts of them.

[Brie Bella]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

I think sometimes, you know, twins, it's. It's hard not to have fun with them dressing identical. Like, my mom didn't wear babies up until I went to her in kindergarten. I was like, I don't want to dress alike anymore. I don't want to be a twin.

[Daniel Cormier]

Wow.

[Nikki Bella]

My mom was like, oh, okay. And then instantly you saw it. When my sister and I got to decide what we wanted to wear. She was a straight up tomboy, and I was very girly. So I think you need to have twins express themselves, because they are gonna express themselves differently. And so parents need to, like, I know it's cute to have twins, but, like, let that, you know, happen.

[Brie Bella]

Right. And I also, though, think being in different classes starting third grade. Cause then you get used to doing things on your own.

[Nikki Bella]

That's true.

[Brie Bella]

Like, homework was different. Walking to a class by yourself without like, having your sister always there, your twin. I think that really helped us. Starting third grade, we were never in the same class, not even in. I don't Even think in college we took.

[Nikki Bella]

No. And then the one time we were in the same class in eighth grade,

[Brie Bella]

we got in trouble a lot. Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

Because we'd like.

[Brie Bella]

And then they had to separate, mess

[Nikki Bella]

around with each other.

[Brie Bella]

We would prank each other and the teacher goes, this is. Yeah, yeah, it's not gonna work. Get them.

[Daniel Cormier]

Split these.

[Nikki Bella]

I think we were so excited to be in a class together. So we just.

[Brie Bella]

Because that was like the first time ever every day. Yeah. We ruined it. It was for the best.

[Daniel Cormier]

So that's great advice though then.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

Is. Is to have. Let them have their own identity.

[Nikki Bella]

Yes, for sure. And I think as parents we get really caught up because we become like Uber drivers. That we're like, what's just easy. Like let's just put them all in one sport or one activity together. Because it's easy to do the drop off and the pickup.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

There's always going to be a child that's missing out on something that's actually their strengths. If you're just going to be following your twin or your sibling. And so I find that it's really important to see what each kid's into. Like my daughter, so artistic. She hates sports and she's a fashionista. And then my son's all about sports, but I'm not going to, you know, have him all same field. Yeah. Super busy. But it's kind of fun. The different conversations and the different activities I get to do with each child.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah, totally. I. I get that. What about when she's like. What about when one is hurt like your sister has. What is happening with your foot, by the way, right now? This is not an ideal time for you.

[Nikki Bella]

No, not at all.

[Brie Bella]

I've been super bummed out about it. So as of now, it's a sprained ankle. We don't know if it's a high sprain or something else. So I got an mri. I'm waiting for the results. What happened in our match on Friday? So we had. It was our second tag match back together. And it happened right in the beginning of the match. And I finished the match. I can't believe I finished the match. And I stressed out my poor sister. I mean, this is my second match back in eight years.

[Nikki Bella]

Like so much anxiety. And her first tag. So she tags me and as I'm about to come in, she goes, oh, I think I broke my ankle. And we're on live television. I was like, huh? I was like, do we need to call my back?

[Daniel Cormier]

Did you really think it was break broken?

[Brie Bella]

I thought it possibly could be because I've had a break before and the rush that was like going through my calf and I couldn't put weight on it. I was like, oh, I think I just broke my ankle. And just how it felt. I just knew something was wrong. But I knew this was like, bit starting the story to WrestleMania. So in my head, I knew there were girls in the back waiting to run in. I knew there was just a lot of women a part of this match. And I didn't want to let anyone down. But I still had like 10, 12 minutes to go. And I was like, my goodness.

[Nikki Bella]

So every time, my sister, by the way.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. I'm such a pleaser. So every time I would tag in, I was like, no, it's really broken. Breathe like it's broken. And the girl who were like, beating up is like, put me in a hold. Like, she's like, wait, is her ankle broken? And.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, and we're doing like a double suplex. Like, we're.

[Brie Bella]

I think it's something I spray the worst pain I've ever felt over a broken neck. Putting someone in a double suplex at

[Nikki Bella]

that point with your ankle. Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Because I had no choice but to put weight on it. Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

So you have a very high pain tolerance.

[Brie Bella]

Very high pain tolerance.

[Daniel Cormier]

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[Nikki Bella]

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[Brie Bella]

This now. Yes, but not then. Not then.

[Daniel Cormier]

Of course, this is. Well, now you've changed the game, but I mean, then totally.

[Nikki Bella]

And this is. Is before social media, when we got into it. So the only time you could watch wrestling was on television.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

But you were fans. Yes. Well, and Nikki and I. It's funny because it goes back to. Yes, we were soccer players, but one thing we loved doing is we love dressing up as the Spice Girls. And when my parents would have boxing parties, we were like, when it's intermission, we are going to lip sync for all your friends.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

But we loved performing. And, like, when it'd be the holidays and we knew family was coming, we'd spend all day performing, doing a perform, practicing, and we always perform. So we were Hooter girls right out of high school. And we'd always watch the wrestling, like, the pay per views.

[Brie Bella]

Well, even how we got drawn to Hooters was crazy. We knew we had to pay for a lot of things, like college books is ridiculous. We're like, this is like a month of rent. So we needed a waitressing job. And the state of California, if a restaurant has hard alcohol, you have to be 21 or older to be a bartender or server. So Hooters was the only place that didn't have hard alcohol. Just beer and wine. So you could be 18 or older to work there. So we were like. When we heard that, we were like, do we do it? Should we go in? Because we had never been in a Hooters before.

[Nikki Bella]

Well, and so you didn't even know

[Daniel Cormier]

what you were walking into?

[Brie Bella]

Not at all?

[Nikki Bella]

No. We got, like, big padded bras because we were like, oh, you need Hooters to work at Hooters? Yeah. It was like, why? I look back and I'm like, we're crazy.

[Brie Bella]

So this is where we made our bestest friends in the whole wide world. And we're all still close. And when people ask us that now, we're proud. Like, well, I mean, we say Hooters and we say college. Bri and I are always like, no,

[Nikki Bella]

we always go Hooters University. Yeah, Friends get mad, but we all

[Brie Bella]

came from the same story of like, shoot, we need to pay for books. But I don't know about this. So.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, but then we'd see wrestling. Well, then we saw a couple years, you know, into that, we saw there were, they were on a search for divas, so female wrestlers. And for a lot of people who maybe watch Glow on Netflix, you kind of can have an idea what it looked like. You showed up up and you, you actually had no idea what was going to happen. But in our heads, we're like, okay, I'm Breezy Fushizi, you're Nicole for show. We're the Garcia twins. And like, we're like came tough. We had bandanas on. But are you like, physically? Well, we thought we were gonna get physical.

[Brie Bella]

So, you know, we're gonna show up, we're gonna be fighting today. And I'm like, all right, let's do this. But it was so bad before, like

[Nikki Bella]

wrestled each other or wives.

[Brie Bella]

We just thought we'd just go scrap it up. We just thought, like, I don't know what we were thinking when we were standing in line. Like, I just thought they were going to call us out to fight someone. Like, I literally was just prepared, I guess, to do it.

[Daniel Cormier]

You were just down for whatever.

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[Brie Bella]

and then when they're like, you need to get in bikinis and this and

[Nikki Bella]

that, I like looked at, where did you bring me?

[Brie Bella]

No, no. And then it was more about like, let's see the bodies. They're like telling me to get a boob job. And I was like, excuse me. And like, then they're like, cut a promo on your sister.

[Nikki Bella]

I'm like, what? It was way different.

[Brie Bella]

Way different. I like, was Brie and I, oh, I just remember leaving. They're like, what was that? It was just crazy. But they.

[Nikki Bella]

But there was someone who. There was this woman there who actually, and I give her a lot of credit because she saw Nicole and I kind of walk out of there demoralized. We were just like, okay, that was weird. But she like, saw a lot of potential, but she also didn't like how. She saw us go in with so much confidence and walk out with like, none. So she pulled aside and she was like, listen, they can get like that, like for television and whatever. And she's like, but I see something really special in you too. She's like, you guys really want to wrestle? Like, fight? And we're like, yeah. She's like, well, let me talk. And yeah, you know, she's like, we can fly out to one of the developmental programs and give you an actual like week long tryout. And so we went to McDonough, Georgia, which is outside Atlanta. And we were there for a week and we. It was called the Deep south. And it was so fun. We were watching everyone train. They were kind of training us. There was this guy who's like a big vampire. And we're like, oh my gosh, you guys are gonna do a little indie show. Can we like under your cape and come out? And we just Realized, like, we were having playtime. It was between the athletics and the character work, we're like, this is our calling. Like, we felt we fell in love

[Daniel Cormier]

at the same time.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, my gosh.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, yeah. It's. You know, we saw from day one not only, like, the magic of pro wrestling, but also the athleticism and being athletes. Like, we were like, this is all. This is the Spice Girls in the soccer worlds collide. Everything we ever wanted growing up as kids, we're like, it's here, and it's crazy. We've been hooked ever since. And it's so wild to me when people aren't familiar with WWE and, you know, wrestling storylines or they'll talk to me about things, and I'm like, no, it's. It's the most magical place ever. There's nothing like it in the world. And even when I'm having my caviar and Dom Perry on at the Ritz, I'm like, you guys know, pro wrestling. Is it, like, this is the greatest thing ever. And I just. We were hooked. Like, that was it.

[Daniel Cormier]

And you still love it.

[Brie Bella]

I still love it.

[Nikki Bella]

I still love it.

[Daniel Cormier]

You still love it.

[Nikki Bella]

I mean, even last night, watching at Madison Square Garden, which is, like, the

[Brie Bella]

most iconic place for wrestling.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

And some of the segments I was watching, I was, like, laughing out loud. And I'm just like, gosh, this is such a great business.

[Brie Bella]

And I just love going backstage and seeing that, you know, especially when we have, like, very colorful characters and they're just walking around. I'm like, see, this is what I love. This is what I miss. It's like a circus. I love it. It's.

[Daniel Cormier]

So what does this moment feel like that you're. That it's coming to an end? It's like a. It's a big pivot for you. It's a big life change.

[Nikki Bella]

It is huge life change. Bittersweet. It's one of those. We knew we had one more run in us, and we really wanted our kids to see us, too. But, you know, at 42, it feels different. And you're, you know, getting in the ring with women in their 20s and their 30s and some in their 40s as well. But, you know, it just. Her and I are like, wow, okay. Like, travel and, you know, taking those bumps. It definitely feels different. But for her and I, we've always wanted to go for the tag titles because they weren't around when we were actually competing. They came after we retired.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

And so that's always been on our bucket list and the fact that we actually get to do it now, it's incredible.

[Brie Bella]

Well, and it hits. Like, for me, I was actually telling Bree this, where it hits me hard. Before we did our walkout last night, our, you know, power walk, stretch your strut. I looked her, and I go, bri, we are only going to have so many more of these moments left. I go, is it not crazy how fast life has gone by?

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

When I think of us starting 23, like, it just seems like I never would have thought 20 years would have gone by this fast. Yeah. And I just. It kind of hits me different to think that when this is done, it's not just because, like, oh, it's just a career. I'm like, no, it's life. It's age. It's a new era. It's just that time.

[Daniel Cormier]

It's interesting when I'm hearing you tell the story, because I think a lot of women, like, you know, age is a thing for a lot of women, especially when you're in a pivot.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

It could be scary. Like, what do I do next? Am I going to be okay in this next phase? Are all the things I'm planning going to work out? What is the next phase of my life look like? Or just even struggling with getting, you know, getting older.

[Nikki Bella]

Right.

[Daniel Cormier]

And not being 23 anymore.

[Brie Bella]

Like, I try not to fall into certain insecurities, but when you're, like, wrestling half naked on tv, it's like, you can't help it. And a birth child and actually birth the child.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

It's like, you know, well, it's even

[Nikki Bella]

like, last night, I'm like, like, are my wrinkles showing? I'm like, do I? Am I dressed like a mom before? We're, like, going out, we're always like,

[Brie Bella]

no, we look hot for 42. We need to stop this. But you can't help. You know, that's where age can be, like, a little difficult. But also what's great is what I've realized having you is we get to be so present, which is so important, especially for us women when we're hitting these different eras and it's about age. It's so important to stay, like, present, because then we're going to look at photos of us now in 10 years

[Nikki Bella]

and be like, why do I appreciate that more?

[Daniel Cormier]

For sure?

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah. Oh, why didn't I? I look at so many photos from my 20s, and I remember being in my 20s, looking at those photos, not happy with them.

[Daniel Cormier]

Why do we do that?

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, my gosh. And I'M like, mad at myself.

[Brie Bella]

A size smaller in jeans. Who cares?

[Daniel Cormier]

Everybody does that. I think every woman does that. And then you see it later and you go, God, I was.

[Nikki Bella]

I looked good. I was perfect.

[Brie Bella]

My skin was tight. I miss. I miss having, like, no circles under my eyes. I'm like, wow. Oh, my gosh.

[Nikki Bella]

Yes.

[Daniel Cormier]

Does it feel like the end of an for you guys? Like, how does. I mean, is that. Is there sadness in that, too? Is.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, big time. Because, I mean, the Bella twins raised us. Like, that's. We became them, which is crazy. But we grew up in this industry, and when that door closes, it's. That's going to be crazy because all the. Especially the past eight years, it's always been like, when are you making the comeback? And when are the Bella twins getting back in the ring? And when this door shuts, that will no longer be a question anymore.

[Daniel Cormier]

Right. It'll be behind you.

[Brie Bella]

It'll be behind us.

[Nikki Bella]

Right.

[Brie Bella]

That's kind of wild. Yeah. And I.

[Nikki Bella]

And I think, too, it just shows you, you know, that life, like, we're just. We're getting to that point of getting older, but in a different way, like, where it's like, you can really let go of something and be like, okay, on to the next chapter. And you start to realize your book is having a lot of chapters.

[Brie Bella]

Be having happy hour talking about pre menopause.

[Daniel Cormier]

Is that the plan?

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, we'll try to prevent it.

[Daniel Cormier]

I mean, you're gonna retirees. I'm sure there's a lot still on your list of things to do.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my God.

[Nikki Bella]

That's the one thing with us.

[Brie Bella]

Our goal is, at 50, to be retired from, like, social media world. That is our goal. We are, like, by then, we want to be off everything and strictly be in our entrepreneur era, where it doesn't matter about the face of it. We just feel like it's a great place to disconnect. But, I mean, the Nikki and Bri show, our podcast, like, we've been eight years now.

[Daniel Cormier]

Wow. Has it been eight years already?

[Brie Bella]

Eight years. And it's like our bread and butter, and we love it, and we love the people we get to have conversations with and all the things we get to learn and where we get to take it. We've been taking it to events that will continue on, and that's become really our thing. And we're winemakers, and we love winemaking. Like, we really, really do and love wine, too.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yes. We. It was funny because just being on the road, I was like, our wine Brand's thriving and really busy right now. But yesterday I'm like, in makeup and I'm like, oh, gosh. My lawyer's like, can you sign this? We need this license for this state. And I just started to realize I'm like, my emails, like, keeping up on everything. I was just like, oh, it's a real thing.

[Brie Bella]

You should probably apologize to me for the past year. Of all the times you gave me hardship on, like, oh, my gosh, you don't get back to this quick enough and you don't do this.

[Nikki Bella]

So something. You were gone, like, so.

[Brie Bella]

No, no, no.

[Nikki Bella]

It was not as wild we've been doing.

[Brie Bella]

You heard her.

[Daniel Cormier]

Do you guys really, finally, this is your thing?

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, no, we really.

[Brie Bella]

We're Lucy and Ethel.

[Daniel Cormier]

No, but do you like. But is there moments where we physically

[Brie Bella]

fought when we were younger, but then we stopped?

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, we don't.

[Daniel Cormier]

Well, not physically, but I mean.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, like, do, like, really, like, is

[Daniel Cormier]

your banter, like, always light like that? Oh, like, if she gets on your nerves, is it a light banter? Or do you ever have.

[Nikki Bella]

I mean, we've had a few moments,

[Brie Bella]

which I feel like now it's like text exchange. And then we. We become bigger people.

[Daniel Cormier]

Because I can't imagine you guys really

[Nikki Bella]

like, telling each other, like, if you got.

[Daniel Cormier]

I don't know if there's ever a separation, if there's ever a distance in between you or do you not let that happen?

[Nikki Bella]

No, we do, because I feel like sometimes I. We both need the break, but sometimes I can get overwhelmed really easy. Her break, second day. Well, I know, but still. And like, she can. The chaos are going, going and going, and I'm like, I need to go to my garden. I get. And I'm just like, I need a timeout.

[Daniel Cormier]

But, like, from each other or just from something going on?

[Nikki Bella]

Because I feel like we are so busy all the time and you work together too.

[Brie Bella]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

So I really do need our space.

[Brie Bella]

How do you good at that, though? Yeah, you're laughing at me. Because I'm not. Because I'm single.

[Daniel Cormier]

Only because you're single. Yes.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, I'm single.

[Daniel Cormier]

How's that going? How's that going?

[Nikki Bella]

Well, I mean, not great.

[Brie Bella]

Well, the good thing is I love being single.

[Daniel Cormier]

You do?

[Brie Bella]

That's. I love, like, tell me why. I. I just love my space. I love how I do my routines. I love my aesthetic of my home now of just like, it's me and my son. I just love all the things. And I couldn't imagine someone in that Space now. And I love, like, the peacefulness of it. Dating. Just at times, you know, I. I think it's because I'm busy and my son's 5, so I'm, like, in it as. It just seems like it's so much. Like it's added to the list. It's, like, not a fun thing. It's just like, oh, this is, like, another thing. But it's also probably because I haven't met the person who's made me, like, want to make space for that.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

That's what that.

[Brie Bella]

On the other hand, it just seems like it's slim pickings out there. If you want, like, a man man. Like, have you tried.

[Daniel Cormier]

Have you put any effort into it? It's not a priority for you? I guess not right now.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah. You haven't really put effort into it. I haven't, but I keep my eyes open.

[Brie Bella]

Well, this is the best thing.

[Daniel Cormier]

Would you pick for her?

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, I. Yeah, I want to.

[Brie Bella]

Well, we were at the bar, and I. I saw someone, and then she went to the restroom so she can make, like, a walk back to, like, look at him. And she goes, oh, yeah, he's cute. I'm like, right. So we made eye contact, and then he came over, and he starts talking. And then the. One of the first things he says, he's like, yeah, I moved from this place. There was all these divorcees with their own baggage of kids or made it like kids.

[Nikki Bella]

It's like, with their kids. Like, I'm gonna take on that baggage.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

I was like, I literally kicked her on the table.

[Brie Bella]

I'm like, like, yeah, we're, like, kicking each other. I'm like, why would he. What a weird thing to say.

[Nikki Bella]

But I was like, thank you for not wasting our time.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. Honestly, like, bye. And I loved it because as we were walking out, his friend who was with him goes, oh, my gosh. The Bella twins. Hey. And we're like, hey. And I'm like, I can't wait for his friend to fill him in about the divorcee with.

[Nikki Bella]

I felt bad. And I'm like, you're in here dissing divorcees. You're talking about the minors. Like, I'm like, nicole, no. Oh, no.

[Brie Bella]

I knew.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

100. That's what I mean.

[Daniel Cormier]

Do you get involved, though, in each other's relationships?

[Nikki Bella]

It's hard because she's my husband.

[Brie Bella]

She's trying to push me out more just so she could live through me.

[Nikki Bella]

Well, yeah. I want to be your wing woman. Of course. Yeah. But my husband's really Great with her. Like, she's our third wheel.

[Brie Bella]

He's amazing.

[Nikki Bella]

And we're about to go. We're April 11th. We'll be celebrating our 12. 12 years of marriage, which is awesome. Yeah. And so I've been really blessed with.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, he's incredible. She's lucky. She is a man. Man. But he has empathy and he can be sensitive, but not too sensitive. Well, sometimes you guys can be a little sensitive.

[Nikki Bella]

Really?

[Brie Bella]

But. Well, then you work animals in the planet. Well. Because you get so tough. And then the poor guy can get super sensitive.

[Nikki Bella]

But, wow, are you learning stuff.

[Brie Bella]

But I always tell her, I go, girl, you're so lucky. Because what I'm seeing, that's out there, which I know there's great men out there.

[Nikki Bella]

I just don't think it's the right time for you.

[Brie Bella]

I just want a cow. He doesn't have to look like a cowboy, but I need, like, a man. Like a cowboy. You know what I mean?

[Daniel Cormier]

Well, you're arrested, counselor.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

So you need a guy.

[Brie Bella]

Make me feel feminine.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yes.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. So you need to have rugged hands. Not a better manicure than me. You need to just. I don't know. Yeah, you know, I know.

[Daniel Cormier]

She knows everything.

[Brie Bella]

She knows everything.

[Daniel Cormier]

What is that? Like when she's going through a hard time or even through, like, divorce. Watching your sister go through that, what is that like?

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, that was hard. That was very hard on me. And it's because I become the protector and I can be.

[Daniel Cormier]

It's funny you say it was hard on me.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, did I See.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

Because.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, because it was.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Nikki Bella]

And I felt like I could. And that we go back to that twin thing where I felt like I could feel a lot of what she was going through. The anxieties, the sadness, all this stuff. So I felt like I. It lays on me as well, because I can feel that.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

And then I can be, like, a huge. So like, then I become that protector bitch. And then that takes a lot of energy. Energy to, you know, have to fight all the fights.

[Brie Bella]

I know she was, like, in hard. Like, I feel like I didn't want her therapy because of.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, I know I did. I doubled up on my. Well, and also we're in business together, so it's like I wanted her to step away, to concentrate on her. Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

She let me disconnect from everything, just focus on my son and myself. Right.

[Nikki Bella]

But, you know, then I took on a lot, and I'm still, you know, a mom and a wife and, like. So, yeah, it Was a. It was hard. It was a lot, but it was fine. You know, it was good. We both grew from it.

[Brie Bella]

We did. Thank God.

[Daniel Cormier]

That's interesting that you probably both grow from what the other. Oh, like every experience that you have, for sure. You grow from.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yeah. Someone yesterday and vice versa.

[Daniel Cormier]

Right?

[Brie Bella]

For sure.

[Nikki Bella]

Someone yesterday's like, Bri, you seem like the oldest. And I go, yeah, because I got so much wisdom from all her mistakes.

[Brie Bella]

Honestly, she's so lucky.

[Nikki Bella]

I learned from all of them.

[Daniel Cormier]

Do you ever look at her, her marriage, and try to figure out what she's doing right or what she did right? Or maybe with the choice, I picked right. That's what I didn't say.

[Brie Bella]

If she picked right, I shouldn't have picked for passion and sexiness.

[Nikki Bella]

I have passion.

[Brie Bella]

I mean, not saying that Brian's not passionate or sexy.

[Nikki Bella]

That was great for me.

[Brie Bella]

I am meaning you guys connected off of. Of museums and earthly things at first.

[Nikki Bella]

Like, you know what it was is we built a friendship first.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

And.

[Brie Bella]

Exactly. Good way to put it.

[Daniel Cormier]

That's a better way to put it.

[Brie Bella]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

And I think too, I mean, I'll say I went through a bad breakup before meeting him. And in that breakup, what I realized were all the things I didn't want in a man. And so I became super picky. And I didn't apologize for being super picky. And. And I just. I think, you know, having boundaries and sticking to what I knew, I also looked too. It was like when I was dating and getting serious, I also was looking at men of like, would they be a good father, too? Like, it was more than just like, oh, this fun dating thing. I was looking beyond it all. And so. But I. I do. I feel like you need to have a friendship and really get deep with someone before you take it to the next level.

[Brie Bella]

Well, I thought I had that.

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[Daniel Cormier]

have you learned about yourself or what? Like if you were to do it

[Brie Bella]

again, what would you oh I the one thing I've learned is I can

[Nikki Bella]

take your time, slow down.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah and just really dissect the red flag. Like when if you trust your gut. I think I've learned that more than anything. Like your instinct is always right. You can't fix anyone. I think we go into things and right.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

And we just want to fix them and we hear him or he. Or him or her, whatever it is. But, like, we want to fix them, and it's like, we can't fix them. They have to want to fix themselves. And if you're already like that from the beginning, it's just not going to work. And those are the things I think I've learned the most. Took me a few times, but now I've realized, like, whatever it is in the beginning, that is what it is and that's what it's going to be. And so if you like it, go with it, but don't.

[Nikki Bella]

Not everyone's perfect in relationship. Like, there's no perfect relationship. So I think, too, looking at people's weaknesses in a relationship and being able to be like, can I marry that? Like, Right. Because it's not like it ever fully goes away. Right.

[Brie Bella]

And having no expectations. Expectations, I mean, that's just setting yourself up for failure. And that's whether, like, it's in your dreams and goals or in a relationship. But I just feel expectations really set yourself up for failure.

[Daniel Cormier]

But we should have some expectations. No, Like.

[Brie Bella]

Right.

[Daniel Cormier]

We should expect what we need. And I don't know.

[Nikki Bella]

I agree.

[Daniel Cormier]

Right.

[Nikki Bella]

Like, but then I feel like you

[Brie Bella]

have to see that in the beginning. You have to see it at the beginning.

[Daniel Cormier]

You can't fall in love with the potential.

[Brie Bella]

Exactly.

[Daniel Cormier]

That's what you said.

[Brie Bella]

And that's the thing. I'd always fall in love with the potential. And I mean, one was one of my loves was just timing in life. Wasn't right.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

The other ones. Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

The potential just wasn't right. Yeah. Just wasn't right.

[Brie Bella]

It wasn't gonna happen.

[Daniel Cormier]

Wasn't right. But you seem okay. You don't seem okay.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, no, I'm good.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

You know, I'm. I've learned so much in life, and I think I've just accepted that, you know, this is just me. I'm. I've been on this roller coaster for so long.

[Daniel Cormier]

But you bounce back.

[Brie Bella]

Well, I bet I bounce back well. And I have to give my sister so much credit that her letting me disconnect for three months and me just taking it straight on mentally and physically. And like, when I went through it mentally and I had a great team behind me, too, that was really protecting me, too. And with me every day talking to me, my life coach stepped in even more. So it's like your support group is so important. But I took sugar and alcohol out of my diet. Anything that. That changes a mood. I wanted to feel everything for three Months and just heal it and go through it.

[Daniel Cormier]

When? What do you mean?

[Brie Bella]

Like, like after, when my divorce was going on, I just wanted to take it all in.

[Daniel Cormier]

You cut out sugar?

[Brie Bella]

I cut out sugar. Alcohol. I, I was mainly drinking bone broth. I have the nutrients in my.

[Daniel Cormier]

Wow.

[Nikki Bella]

Because even like she was picky about the music she was listening.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

So you were, you were in like self care mode.

[Brie Bella]

Oh yeah. Like fully like full gospel. Like if I wasn't hearing the word of God, I don't want to hear anything.

[Daniel Cormier]

Wow.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. I went deep in. Honestly, I had hard, hard nights and just like this is my life. I mean I loved all the way. I lost it looked really good. Never will get back there ever again. I'm like, how does that happen? Yeah, but, but it was.

[Daniel Cormier]

You didn't sit in that.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

You're not somebody that sits in it and.

[Brie Bella]

No, like just really.

[Daniel Cormier]

Even from what you're telling me, I could hear that you like did. You were working through it.

[Brie Bella]

Working through it. Yeah, it's, you know, life is a constant work and I've been working on myself very strong for what, the past. I want to say maybe eight years.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Where really. And I realized that this is why we always have to do the work on ourselves. Because we get into moments like this and we know how to handle that. Them doesn't mean they're not going to be hard, but we're going to know how to get through them. We're not going to be victims. We're going to get there and we're going to cleanse this pain out of us. We're going to get through it and we're going to grow stronger and survive.

[Daniel Cormier]

That's interesting though because I'd never really heard somebody talk about getting through whether it's divorce or loss or any type of grief period in their life by actually like detoxing.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

Right.

[Brie Bella]

Like gotta detox it.

[Daniel Cormier]

And it. And it does what to you? What is.

[Brie Bella]

You're just, you know, our soul holds on to things. Right. And you're just so clean and pure.

[Daniel Cormier]

Pure.

[Brie Bella]

And you're just taking it in so purely.

[Nikki Bella]

Well, I think it helps with the energy too.

[Brie Bella]

And the energy and you know, you sit, you sit there and, and you, you process things. Different things become so clear and feeling

[Daniel Cormier]

just like giving up sugar and.

[Nikki Bella]

Well, just think too, if you consume too much sugar, too much alcohol, how you feel. And then if you're going through a hard moment in your life, it's just the downward spiral. And I think that's how People hit rock bottom. It's like there. It's. You know, it's too many bad things going on physically, mentally. And I think, you know, and I think the way Nikki handled the situation and did was it was actually really inspiring to watch. And I was like, wow. To think, like, oh, cleansing your body physically, mentally is gonna what's help you heal faster. And also her clarity on just the whole situation. And I think that's, you know, sometimes we don't see the real clarity. Like, you know, she's like, this happened for a reason, and let's get to the bottom of it.

[Brie Bella]

And she wasn't in my own accountability too.

[Nikki Bella]

Right.

[Brie Bella]

It's better to be in high frequency when you go the other path. People just get in a darker place. I wasn't gonna let myself get in a dark hole.

[Daniel Cormier]

Wow.

[Nikki Bella]

And.

[Brie Bella]

And. And I'm a mom, and my son, he was first. And because how I was raised and the things I saw, I was like, my son could see what he saw that one day, but never again will he ever see anything like that. And I will never let him even be in a situation like.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

And so. And I didn't want that these the moments of divorce to affect the rest of his life. And we co parent beautifully. And I get so many compliments on how happy and loving my son is. You would never think he came from a divorce family at all. And. And I have to say, I was so happy. And it was crazy, the things that I saw. Like, there was this moment where I had my hardest night ever, because you know, what divorce you have to do

[Nikki Bella]

publicly, which is hard. Like,

[Brie Bella]

people just write headlines and there's no fact checking.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

So it's. You know, you can't, like, fall into that stuff. But it was like, probably, like the heaviest time through it all. And I just remember, like, falling to my knees and just, like, praying so hard, like, God, I just need to know that you're here with me, that no matter what happens, I'll be okay. And the next morning, I woke up, I do the same routine, open up the same drapes every day, make my coffee. And the brightest double rainbow just facing my home. No rain, no nothing. And it was the most breathtaking double rainbow I've ever seen in my life. And even the sunrise was the brightest we've ever had in Napa Valley. Like, you have to see the video of it. It's incredible. When I googled it, like, the meaning double rainbow is always like a sign from God. And it was just crazy that it was Literally that next early morning, you

[Daniel Cormier]

asked for it, you prayed for that.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah. And if you do think about nature, they tell us, like, when there's a storm, a rainbow, like just. You gotta push through.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah, that's so true. You know, you push through everything. Even. Even hearing that because I had had a bad car accident maybe like six years ago, and it took me so long just to drive again.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

To think that you broke your neck.

[Brie Bella]

I know.

[Daniel Cormier]

Crazy. And got back in the ring after

[Brie Bella]

that seven months later. I think they said I set a record.

[Nikki Bella]

I mean, crazy does that.

[Daniel Cormier]

And it probably changed both of you. That moment does. You do not have, like, does that.

[Brie Bella]

She went on a solo run. She was like, it's my time. I'm joking.

[Nikki Bella]

No. I mean, no, but does it change

[Daniel Cormier]

how you look at, like, the potential for injury or danger or, you know, ptsd, any of that?

[Nikki Bella]

Saw her taking this double team move from Nia, Jax and Lash legend. I was like, like, looking. I was freaking out. Cause I was like. When I saw done and her, all I could think about is her name, neck. And I was like, oh, no. Like, is her neck hurt again? So, yeah, definitely you do. I feel like we. You're more cautious when you're going through the injuries. But we're also built different. Like her and I. I don't know.

[Brie Bella]

Very fearless. Very Always have been.

[Daniel Cormier]

You just get back on the horse.

[Brie Bella]

You just get back on the horse.

[Nikki Bella]

We know, you know what it is. We know what recovery is like, so we're like, okay, like, you get hurt,

[Brie Bella]

like, you'll recover, but it's also weird. Your body like. Like your intuition tells you. Like, when I broke my neck and they were trying to tell me my career was done, nothing in me felt like my career was done. So I was like, no, it's not. And they're like, no. Yeah, you're never wrestling again. I was like, no. Yes, I will. It just. Nothing in my mind told me, like, no. Everything was telling me like, no, we're going like, this is. Yes. So I pushed through and then I had this run. I was doing like the craziest things. And then I did get re injured, which wasn't great. And I had to step back and then step back for quite, you know, a few years. But then I got pregnant. And now, I mean, I'll think of things, but I feel like that's mom mode that kicks in. I start to think about my son. But other than that, I listen to my intuition so much. So I know moments like, if it's Yelling, no at me. I'm not gonna do it. But.

[Daniel Cormier]

But no fear.

[Brie Bella]

No fear.

[Daniel Cormier]

No fear.

[Nikki Bella]

No fear.

[Brie Bella]

I mean, when I jumped off a few weeks ago to do a crossbody off the top of the turnbuckle, and they're like. The girls are like, I don't know. And I'm like, no, I'm fine. I'm good. I'll be fine.

[Nikki Bella]

Crazy war warriors. Yes.

[Daniel Cormier]

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[Brie Bella]

Love it.

[Daniel Cormier]

So let's see what we got.

[Brie Bella]

Hi, this is Julie, and this is

[Nikki Bella]

a question for the both of you.

[Brie Bella]

I've been dating someone for two years, and I always feel like I'm competing with his brother. They're not twins, but they're incredibly close. And I always feel like, number two,

[Nikki Bella]

how do you love someone fully when they already have a person who knows them better than you ever could? Oh, that gave me goosebumps.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, that gave me goosebumps.

[Nikki Bella]

Because this is so what we deal with. And this, Brian, would be great.

[Brie Bella]

He would have to answer, yes.

[Nikki Bella]

My husband said. What he realized is that he'll always make a joke saying if he and my sister were drowning, I'd go save my sister first. Which I'm like, no, I wouldn't. I just probably let us all drown. But I feel. I know. Yeah. She's like, excuse me.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, we are. We'll find a way for all of us. Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

Like, come on now, Brian. Yeah, but what My husband said is great, and how he looks at it is one. We become a family. And it's so nice to have your tribe.

[Brie Bella]

And.

[Nikki Bella]

And also, he's like, the things that Nicole gives you. My husband doesn't drink, so he's like, I see how much you love to go wine tasting or go get a fun lunch with an aperol spritz. And he's like, those aren't fun to me. He's like, but you get to enjoy that with your sister, and it's in good company, and it's with family. So he's really looked at a relationship and actually has seen that my sister's such a positive because he doesn't have to force himself to go do these things. It's like, you go. You go do that with Nicole. And he knows how much I love it. I'm gonna have fun. And I don't know, maybe that's what's made our marriage so. Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

And I know where I need to have boundaries, too, and I respect that. I know when they say they're gonna get tacos, I know it consists of a lot of other things I make sure not to go over because the

[Nikki Bella]

kids are in school.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. I go, we're gonna get tacos today for lunch. And breeze, look at me. I'm like, all right, see y' all tomorrow.

[Nikki Bella]

Because she'll just drop by. Yeah. But I do think it's important, too, to have the conversation. Like, I've definitely had a conversation with my husband. Like, does it bother you how close Nicole and I are? Or like, that sometimes she just stops by or. And so I do think it's important. Of course, I have to respect him. So for, you know, the listener who called in, I would say, like, you ha. You should talk to them.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

And just say, listen, Like, I would like our time here, and I respect your time there, but it's important to have boundaries and just to have an open conversation about it.

[Brie Bella]

And I rarely do it when Brian's there on drop him.

[Nikki Bella]

He doesn't care, though.

[Brie Bella]

No, I know he doesn't. Unless we drive. Yeah. But I respect it.

[Daniel Cormier]

Is that your cold taco night?

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Because they like walking these tacos, But I know when they want to walk and go get tacos, I know what they're doing before.

[Nikki Bella]

No. Well, it's sex and tacos. Yeah. Like having sex and getting tacos.

[Brie Bella]

It's like, you have. Guys are so weird, but I guess you have two kids that just walk into your room all.

[Nikki Bella]

Well, we've had to. He And I finally were like, because the kids are both in school, we're like, day sex, and it's actually the best. And so because we're always so tired at night and sometimes felt like we were forcing it, so now it's sex.

[Daniel Cormier]

You figured it out in tacos.

[Nikki Bella]

And I don't complain and I know

[Brie Bella]

Taco Tuesday I stay in my town and I don't come over you stand down.

[Daniel Cormier]

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[Nikki Bella]

You know, I'm really proud that. And I hate saying my age, but I'm going to say that I've challenged myself to kind of go back into a career that I did, you know, when I was in my 20s, really throughout my 20s and early 30s. And I've challenged myself to get back into the shape, to get back there mentally, and to go prove myself. Like, I can do this. Like, age doesn't matter. Like, as long as you put in the work, you can do it. I'm proud of myself because I really did challenge myself. Like, get to that top turnbuckle, do your missile drop kick, but do it crisp and try new moves. Yeah. And so it's been, like, really fun to challenge myself and actually do it. And so I'm proud of myself. I challenge myself, and I've been. I was in the Gardens for the last couple years where I didn't feel the butterflies. I wasn't nervous. But every time you step behind that curtain before you walk out, I'm like, I want to vomit.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. But it's good to have that feeling, you know?

[Nikki Bella]

I'm like, okay. Like, we're alive.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. For me, I'm proud of my achievements. But most of all, I'm so proud of the life that I've made and all the things I've overcome. I look at my home and I look at my son and I get it. I see the things I get to do for my son, which I'm like, hey, this isn't normal for a kid. You get like, you never wait line. Like you need to know that times you're gonna have to wait in line. But I look at my life and I'm just like, wow, I did that. And I've overcome so much and I just, just. I think that's why I'm in such a great place. And I'm just so happy. Like, my son was just with me here for the past few days and even getting like a VIP tour, the Statue of Liberty. I was like, whoa, it's cuz your mom. Hey, she took some bumps for 20 years. And look at like the VIP treatment we're getting. I just. Those are the moments where I'm like, most proud of.

[Daniel Cormier]

Well, you guys should be proud.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, thank you.

[Daniel Cormier]

Congratulations.

[Brie Bella]

Thank you.

[Daniel Cormier]

Twins in real life.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, baby.

[Nikki Bella]

Hey, everyone.

[Brie Bella]

And I'm Bri. I'm Nikki.

[Nikki Bella]

And we're the Bella twins, right?

[Brie Bella]

In real life.

[Daniel Cormier]

Hey, guys. Thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like, comment and check out all of the other episodes we have on Angel Martinez IRL podcast.

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[Brie Bella]

I tell myself it's not about comparing.

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[Nikki Bella]

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[Brie Bella]

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