Angie Martinez IRL - Tyrese On God's Vision For You, His Daughter Shayla & Playing Teddy Pendergrass

Summary

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Joe and Jada: Angie Martinez IRL – Tyrese On God’s Vision For You, His Daughter Shayla & Playing Teddy Pendergrass

Original Air Date: April 30, 2026
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts & The Volume
Special Guest: Tyrese Gibson
Host: Angie Martinez

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This deeply personal and inspiring conversation sees Angie Martinez hosting actor, singer, and author Tyrese Gibson on her IRL podcast. The episode centers around Tyrese’s vulnerability, his journey through blessings, fame, faith, parenthood, and creative vision—highlighted by candid stories, powerful reflections on God's plan, and his dreams of portraying Teddy Pendergrass. The dialogue dives into self-worth, handling success, relationships, the journey of self-forgiveness, and cultivating legacy. The tone is both heartfelt and humorous, packed with memorable lines and real-life revelations.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. On Vulnerability, Selfhood, and Being “Seen”

Timestamp: 02:41 – 06:43

• Tyrese discusses his emotional side and the effort he puts into masking vulnerability, only to have Angie immediately see through it.
  • “I wear my heart on my sleeve. I lead with my vulnerabilities. I trust easy. I deal with people taking their access for granted, often, while still feeling very misunderstood.” (Tyrese Gibson, 04:48)
• Angie notes his intense emotional energy, regardless of what he is feeling.
  • “If it’s love, it’s energy. If it’s sadness, it’s a lot of energy. You put that energy on whatever it is.” (Angie Martinez, 07:17)
• Tyrese opens up about the weight of public expectation, expressing that people often misinterpret his emotions as staged.
  • “This is not a movie. This is real life... The world believes that I'm the strongest, most alpha, outspoken, big... but I'm just this teddy bear, vulnerable, processing everything.” (Tyrese Gibson, 06:01-06:43)

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2. Reflecting on Blessings and Not Taking Success for Granted

Timestamp: 09:07 – 12:39

• Tyrese reflects on appreciating present blessings and avoiding “the curse of familiarity” with what you have.
  • “Have you allowed yourself to get too familiar with being blessed? You’re so focused on the next thing that you’ve lost sight of what you already have.” (Tyrese Gibson, 09:07)
• He attributes his long career (from a 30-second Coca-Cola commercial to 30 years of success) to grace.
  • “I had 30 seconds. That has turned into 30 years.” (Tyrese Gibson, 10:05)
• Angie shares a similar sense of divine affection:
  • “God loves me so much. That is my go-to phrase. Any time something happens… I just make the statement.” (Angie Martinez, 12:12)

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3. Humility, Self-Worth, and “Running Your Race”

Timestamp: 13:42 – 18:31

• The two explore themes of humility versus asserting self-worth, particularly in professional spaces.
  • “Don’t be too humble where you disappear in the deal terms... They milk the humility and gratitude you have for the opportunity.” (Tyrese Gibson, 14:22)
• Imposter syndrome is dissected—Angie admits she’s struggled with feeling “lucky just to be in the room,” while Tyrese asserts:
  • “If I’m in this room, I’m supposed to be in this room.” (Angie Martinez, 15:22)
• Tyrese encourages individuals not to compare their path to others:
  • “Run your race. Stop losing money over everybody else’s gifts. God will never give you something that belongs to somebody else.” (Tyrese Gibson, 17:41-18:14)

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4. Youth, Fame, and the “How Many More?” Conversation

Timestamp: 18:31 – 27:20

• Tyrese recalls his early goals at age 16: getting a girl's phone number and having $100 in his pocket.
• The psychological effect of sudden fame and the feeling that blessings are temporary—a “rental car” mentality.
  • “You need to go big because this shit is going to be over soon… You better live your best life to the fucking fullest.” (Tyrese Gibson, 22:47)
• A formative conversation with Rev Run shifted his approach to relationships and extravagance:
  • “Rev asked me… ‘How many more?’ And I didn’t have an answer.” (Tyrese Gibson, 21:19)
• Since then, Tyrese highlights fidelity and self-discipline, saying, “God removed that appetite.”

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5. Living with Urgency & The Power of Finite Time

Timestamp: 29:43 – 32:42

• Both discuss mortality as a motivator:
  • “It’s arrogant to believe the next seconds of life belong to you. So if you think you got next week to get to it, who's to say?” (Tyrese Gibson, 29:45)
• Angie reveals the show’s original title was “We’re All Gonna Die,” emphasizing the importance of recognizing the clock on life.
• Tyrese prefers to reframe it: “We’re all going to live,” emphasizing energy and intention in words.

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6. Creativity, Vision, and Big Dreams

Timestamp: 33:28 – 37:42

• Tyrese passionately describes his addiction to creativity:
  • “These ideas will stay in my brain if I don’t have money that can help me get them out… If God put that on you, he could have sent the idea to somebody else.” (Tyrese Gibson, 34:44)
• He jokes about needing a billionaire backer to fund his ambitions, including a Teddy Pendergrass biopic and other projects with Taraji P. Henson or Kelly Rowland.

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7. Money: Value vs. Spiritual Purpose

Timestamp: 37:42 – 39:11

• Angie admits she spent much of her career not valuing money, believing “not all money’s good money.”
• Tyrese agrees in part:
  • “I don’t respect money. These ideas will stay in my brain if I don’t have the money to get them out … I don’t have no ill will and bad intentions with any of this.” (Tyrese Gibson, 37:47-39:11)
• Both stress that while material things aren't the goal, resources are necessary to bring creative visions to the world.

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8. The Spirit of Teddy Pendergrass/Legacy & Assignments

Timestamp: 39:36 – 43:04; 56:02 – 58:26

• Tyrese performs an impromptu Teddy Pendergrass rendition and shares his deep spiritual and familial connection to the late singer.
  • “He gave me an assignment...He said, ‘Nobody could play me in this movie but you...You’re my son. That’s why you’re gonna play me in the movie.’” (Tyrese Gibson impersonating Teddy, 41:19)
• Tyrese describes his drive for big projects: movie studios, Caribbean resorts, generational wealth.

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9. On Relationships, Self-Sabotage, and Healing

Timestamp: 53:19 – 55:32

• Angie and Tyrese contemplate self-sabotage in men who think they don’t deserve the love they receive, often ruining relationships out of fear or low self-worth.
  • “There’s something that happens with men where if they're with a woman they don’t feel like they deserve, she's gonna leave me at some point anyway. They almost ruin their home.” (Angie Martinez, 53:17)
  • “It’s self-sabotage… a habit they've learned… who's going to love you enough to help you unpack it?” (Tyrese Gibson, 53:32-54:15)
• The need for transparency, therapy, and working through individual baggage together is emphasized.

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10. Faith and Divine Timing

Timestamp: 51:20 – 52:15; 59:54 – 62:17; 85:33 – 90:38

• Tyrese admits creative frustration but concedes to Angie the reality of God’s timing.
  • “God has a way of wanting to make sure you know he did it... Faith in the unseen.” (Tyrese Gibson, 51:28)
• On legacy and using every platform to affirm faith:
  • “If God were to text me right now, what would he say? I would hope that he would say, ‘Thank you for reminding people about me.’ ... I give all the credit to the Lord Jesus Christ who loves me so much.” (Tyrese Gibson, 85:33–87:39)
• Tyrese urges unapologetic pursuit of visions and dreams, warning that if you don’t act on them, “God will give it to somebody else.”

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11. Parenting, “My Shayla,” and Turning Pain to Positivity

Timestamp: 78:05 – 83:11

• Tyrese discusses fatherhood as his daughter Shayla grows up, moves to Atlanta, and launches a clothing line.
  • “At this point, as a father, I’m more concerned about what my daughter don’t know… People will take advantage of what you don’t know.” (Tyrese Gibson, 78:15)
• Talks about internet memes stemming from deeply emotional moments about his daughter.
  • “It is literally like God has a sense of humor to flip that one.” (Tyrese Gibson, 82:31)

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12. Rapid-Fire “IRL” Questions

Timestamp: 73:10 – 75:18

• Most proud of: “That God has used me to represent what’s possible.” (Tyrese Gibson, 73:23)
• No longer apologizing for: “Being late… something caused a delay, it wasn’t me.” (73:38)
• At my best when: “I’m alone. These thoughts are expensive… when I’m able to reach them all, everyone is going to be on the receiving end.” (74:00)
• Forgiven myself for: “Things I didn’t know or understand… I give myself grace. If I was raised by Gladys Knight, a whole lot of things would’ve been different… I had to give myself grace and stop beating myself up.” (74:31–76:28)

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13. Legacy, Purpose, and Parting Words

Timestamp: 71:30 – 73:10; 85:33 – 90:38

• Tyrese on legacy: “If it ended tomorrow, what have we actually done to leave something for our children? … The new high is that I own the studio and that we have a film slate and a budget… Now it’s coming, praise God.” (Tyrese Gibson, 71:30–73:10)
• On being remembered:
  • “When I walk in a room, I want people to feel… they've met a really nice person… and to say Tyrese has got a lot of visions and ideas. I'm gonna give him my money.” (84:28)
• On faith’s central role:
  • “Keep saying his name… If you ain’t got God on you, you should assume that when you walk in the room, God wasn’t there before you showed up.” (Tyrese Gibson, 90:04)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES

• “I’m actually on this mission every day to meet and be introduced to a better version of myself.” (Tyrese Gibson, 29:59)
• “Be unapologetic about getting these visions and dreams out; loyalty has an expiration date.” (Tyrese Gibson, 67:47)
• “It’s arrogant to believe the next seconds of life belong to you. Get to it.” (Tyrese Gibson, 32:25)
• “If God put that idea in my head, he could have sent the idea to somebody else.” (Tyrese Gibson, 34:44)
• “God is the slingshot… you’re the pebble… and he’s going to thrust you into a whole nother level.” (Tyrese Gibson, 87:21)

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TIMESTAMPS FOR KEY SEGMENTS

• Vulnerability & Being Seen: 02:41–06:43
• Fame, Blessings & Self-Worth: 09:07–18:31
• Rev Run’s “How Many More?” Conversation: 21:19–27:20
• Embracing Urgency in Life: 29:43–32:42
• Creativity & Calling on Investors: 33:28–39:11
• Teddy Pendergrass Legacy & Impersonation: 39:36–43:04, 56:02–58:26
• Parenting & “My Shayla” Meme: 78:05–83:11
• Rapid Fire Questions (“IRL”): 73:10–76:28
• God’s Vision & Faith in Action: 85:33–90:38

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FINAL TAKEAWAY

This isn’t just an artist interview—it's a masterclass in faith-driven perseverance, humility, creative ambition, and self-forgiveness. Tyrese and Angie Martinez open up about triumphs, traumas, and trusting in God’s vision, offering motivation for anyone sitting on their own “expensive thoughts.” The session is a powerful reminder to appreciate your blessings, run your own race, invest in your dreams, and—above all—keep God in the conversation.

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Transcript

[Angie Martinez]

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[Angie Martinez]

What are you gonna do when she's in a relationship?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Well, that's a different. My Shayla. I'm gonna tell him. She will always be my Shayla. But y' all married, and I got a shotgun

[Angie Martinez]

in case this gets crazy.

[Tyrese Gibson]

There's some boundaries in place.

[Angie Martinez]

Hey, guys. This episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. You know, you and Busta have similar spirit. Has anybody ever told you that? No. Yeah, it's very. It's like you're very big on the outside, but very emotional and loving in the inside.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Vulnerable.

[Angie Martinez]

And you just love aggressively because your energy is that.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Love aggressively. That sounds so grown.

[Angie Martinez]

Has nobody ever said that to you?

[Tyrese Gibson]

No. If a woman said that to me over our first lunch, I'd be like, this is it. This is it. It just happened.

[Angie Martinez]

So you do feel that? You feel that?

[Tyrese Gibson]

This is. That was so grown. That was so grown. It felt like a pickup line. I wasn't sure. No, no, no, not at all. I'm just letting it just. It just. It just happened. I was just like, oh, shit, Angie. The possibilities are endless. You. You know me.

[Angie Martinez]

You feel seen. You feel seen right through my soul.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I've been working so hard to cover this all up, and she just broke my shit down in two seconds.

[Angie Martinez]

And ladies and gentlemen, that is Tyrese Real Life. Tyrese is our guest today. I love that you are here. Your first time on the pod?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

I was just explaining to you the pod is a little different than some of our. We've had meaningful interviews in the past.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

But this is just a little more. You know, I value the experiences of our real life because I think people really can learn from them, and so they go a little deeper. And you said, oh, no.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I mean, this is. This is where. This is the place I live every day. This is where I function from. This is where I would rather be. You know? You know, I got. I got managers and folks pulling me to the side all the time. Like, you know, just bring the energy up. You know, everything doesn't have to be so deep, and there's so many details and. But that, you know, the Capricorn in me. I'm. I'm. I'm. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I lead with my vulnerabilities. I trust easy. You know, I. I deal with people taking their access for granted, often, all while still feeling very misunderstood, you know, like, really. Oh, God. Like this. I feel like I understand me.

[Angie Martinez]

Well, what is the thing you think that people don't understand?

[Tyrese Gibson]

I mean, no 2 scenario is ever the same, you know, like, it'll be like, you know, did that really happen or were you just doing interviews? Or.

[Angie Martinez]

Is that real?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah. Is that real? Or, you know, because.

[Angie Martinez]

Well, because you're emotional.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Very. Yeah, right. But it's not. I don't think anybody would schedule a tear, you know, oh, at 3:30, drop them. This is not a movie. This is real life. So you wake up and want to be married for the rest of your life and get blindsided by a divorce, and then you're pulling out your human calculator, trying to process like, well, what did I say? What did I do? And what am I on the receiving end of? And how am I supposed to process what's happening? All while the world believes that I'm the strongest, most alpha, outspoken, big, huge.

[Angie Martinez]

Capricorn.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Capricorn. Energy, you know, loud vocal take over the energy of every room I walk into. But I'm just this teddy bear, vulnerable, processing everything.

[Angie Martinez]

You know what's so funny? Because I've known you for so long now, we've had so many great conversations on air and off air. I run into you. I haven't seen you in two years. I run into you in the street in LA, and we're standing in the street for 30 minutes having a conversation. You're so engaged with whatever you're doing in the moment. And to me, that's you. You just, like you said, you're just a. Like, you have energy.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

And so if it's love, it's energy. If it's sadness, it's a lot of energy. A lot of you, just that energy, you put that energy on whatever it is, whatever's happening in the moment. I get. I get that about you.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It's a movie.

[Angie Martinez]

But when we were telling you, we were talking about you coming today, I was telling Britney because Britney is. Well, she's younger than us. I was like, you know how Tyrese came? Like, how we got introduced to Tyrese and she got quiet for a second. She probably thinks of you as Tyrese from, you know, Fast and Furious and whatever music or whatever. But I said, no, you don't remember the Coca Cola commercial? And she hadn't seen it. So we all bust out. The Coca Cola commercial.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Wow.

[Angie Martinez]

It's the first time. Yeah, it's pretty great. No, I mean, there's a whole generation of people that know you from different eras.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

And there might be some of the younger generation that don't remember being introduced to you. Yes, I remember being introduced to you. And so even in your highs and your lows and your emotional things and all of that. I still see how I was introduced to you, which was this, like, this entity who got on this bus in this commercial with this crazy smile and voice, and everybody was like, who is that? Who is that kid? There was such a. Like, a joy and a. You know what I mean? You just, like, you came in that way. You came in that way.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Big happiness.

[Angie Martinez]

That was joy, right? It was real.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It was very real. This is what's interesting.

[Angie Martinez]

I feel like I want to insert the video right there for people to see, for anybody who is not of the generation, just to take you back to that moment or you haven't seen it in a long time. I just want to remind you how we were introduced. Tyrese. Boom, boom. Can you make sure I get cleared for that?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Of course. Done, done, done, done. Say no more. Okay, good. But I want y' all to know that I try my best to never get too familiar with being blessed like you're blessed. But do you see it? Do you see that there's actually food in the fridge and that you're driving what you want to drive? And that this is the house that you really wanted, that you could and that you got it? It's furnished the way you want it to be furnished. The kids is happy. The pool is warm. Do you see how blessed you are? Or have you allowed yourself to get too familiar with being blessed? You're so focused on the next thing that you've lost sight of what you already have. Other folks have had. Other folks have had five minutes of fame. Like, this is. We've been hearing this for years. Oh, he got his five minutes of fame.

[Angie Martinez]

He had a moment.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah, I had 30 seconds. Five minutes of fame would have been incredible. I had 30 seconds. That has turned into 30 years. So if you don't think my life feels like Christmas every day, like, every day. Like, I'm sitting there with Angie Martinez, bro. Like, I know you, but I'll never get too familiar with your magic ever. Oh, no, no, no. She been at it for. I've been knowing of her. No, no, no. It's Angie Martinez. Let's be clear.

[Angie Martinez]

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[Tyrese Gibson]

So yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's allowing myself to be that little kid that got on the bus and it has. I have been on this bus for 30 years and cannot believe. And I literally say this every day. God, why do you love me so much?

[Angie Martinez]

That's crazy. What do I say all the time? He loves me. Me. So whenever something I go, God loves me so much. I don't ask why. I just make the statement. I say this. This is like the past couple years, this has been like my thing. I say it all the time. Literally. I could be like, God, I'm in such in the mood for refresher.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, boom.

[Angie Martinez]

Oh, my gosh. God loves me so much. Like anytime something happens, I, I, that is my go to phrase, God loves me so much.

[Tyrese Gibson]

The reason that I put why in front of it, it's not questioning him. Mm. It's me understanding that God's grace is when he gives you what you don't deserve. Right. So someone who is entitled to it will never see God's hand in it. Yeah, this is mine. Yeah, I drive that. Yeah, I got another show. Yeah, like, it's me. But when you understand that that did not have to happen. And then it happened, and then it happened on such a real level with real numbers attached and you got real guests that you're securing and all of this stuff. Why does God love me so much? God loves you so much because your heart is right. And I don't really know of anybody who could ever say a bad thing about Andy Martinez. Now they might not like you when it's time to negotiate a deal. Right? Because a woman who.

[Angie Martinez]

Or if I say no to something.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah, you say no to something. I can't pull up. You know, they, they, they, they, they have some entitlement issues and if you, if you say no, then they like, oh, you know what I'm saying? I thought we was boom or no one wants to negotiate with Angie. Right? Because when a woman functions from a place of knowing her self worth and her self value, that gets very uncomfortable when somebody trying to throw you $2 for like you some fucking chicken. Chicken nugget in the game.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah, those days have passed. Me, I used to take chicken nugget money just cause I was humble and I thought I was supposed to, you know, but now, you know, I'm in my know my value era.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Okay. And, and sometimes. And again, going back to that why question, right? Sometimes the humility will make you disappear in the room. Don't be too humble where you disappear in the deal terms, you know, just because you're functioning from a yo, I'm just so grateful for the opportunity. You know what I'm saying? You could have given anybody this opportunity. So now you out here super humble and it's genuine. But then they milk the humility and the gratitude and the appreciation that you have for the opportunity, and they say, well, nigga, you, you so grateful. Take this $2.

[Angie Martinez]

But also, it's like, it's almost like. Almost a little bit of an imposter syndrome. I always felt like I'm just so lucky to be in the room. But then, but. No but, but if you think about it in a way, like, well, God put me in this room, so y' all should see me the way he sees me.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

So if I'm in this room, then I'm supposed to be in this room.

[Tyrese Gibson]

And I see you. Yeah, I see you. Even without me physically being here, I see you. Even when I'm not with you, when I'm not around you, it's always good. God is good. To Angie Martinez, you are always engaging, you are always creating safe environments, always warm and personable. And I often say this. I got a lot of different sayings, but one of the sayings is who you are is who you are. Literally, you can go get 20 million next week and you'd be like, yo, I just got 20 mil. But it's not gonna change who I am. I'm not gonna start treating people differently.

[Angie Martinez]

I'm not going to that.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Well, I could say from experience, it's not about money, but from like making more money than I never Thought I would ever see ever in my life as a regular black kid from South, I was like, it's not the money that changes people, right? There's a book called As a Man thinketh, so is he. And As a Man Thinketh speaks to the specifics of who you are is already there. And whatever you end up doing, whatever your intentions are, you're a monster waiting on an opportunity to be a monster. You know, you're a really bad person. And now that you got money and now that we can see the extensions of your evil, you're a bigger monster. And you are now like an evil genius. And then there's the purity of when you put the money or the opportunities in this good person's hands, everything about your intentions will reflect that. You can't put $10 million in a bad person's hands and not expect him to do bad things.

[Angie Martinez]

I feel like those bad people get it faster and easier for some reason they do, right?

[Tyrese Gibson]

And then they end up in jail and we're all sitting back going like, damn, well, you made this all look so great. And so I often say, run your race word. Run your race. Stop losing people. Stop losing money over everybody else's gifts. What opportunities happen for them first before you? What seems to be bigger and better? What's a bigger check? Run your race.

[Angie Martinez]

Run your race word.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Go to sleep at night and just know that God really does love you and he's doing everything for you that he has in mind for you. God will never give you something that belongs to somebody else.

[Angie Martinez]

So good. Take me back to that kid, though.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

How old is he? How old is he on the bus?

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'm 47 now, but I was 16 then.

[Angie Martinez]

You were 16 on the bus?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

Did you understand that then? Did you understand that you were being blessed? That that moment was a blessing? Were you connected to God in that way?

[Tyrese Gibson]

No, no, no. I'd be lying. Only thing I wanted was I wanted two things. There was this girl at the end of my block.

[Angie Martinez]

That's what you wanted.

[Tyrese Gibson]

That I was flirting with. And her dad name was Steve, and he was mean as hell. And I just was trying my best to get her phone number. Now, I was too young and she was too young for me to be calling her house, but I just wanted her daughter's. His daughter's phone number. And I also wanted to know what it would be like to have over $100 in my pocket at one time. The only two goals I had.

[Angie Martinez]

Did you ever get her number?

[Tyrese Gibson]

I did, but it was Too late at that point. Cause I had other numbers.

[Angie Martinez]

Cause you was popping. Cause when that commercial hit, everybody cold.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Kid was out here in these streets, man. He was outside, man. Yeah. So, yeah, I got a little busy. I was unavailable for. I was like, yo, man, when I was just sitting around doing nothing, you ain't gonna give me your phone number?

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah. Now look at all these phone numbers at 16.

[Tyrese Gibson]

16, it was cracking.

[Angie Martinez]

With a little money in your pocket.

[Tyrese Gibson]

A little money way more than low.

[Angie Martinez]

Did you think you had made it? Like I've arrived.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. But. But this is what's crazy. And this might make some dudes uncomfortable, but I have to put this out here. We often have this conversation about men versus women. Men, overly promiscuous sex and everything, and everybody, all day, every day. And women are active too. So I can't say just for men, but women will attack women for being overly promiscuous. Men, we get love and props from going big, partying all day, every day. So I'll never forget I had a conversation with Rev Rev Run. And he didn't come down on me. He wasn't being condescending. He wasn't like cracking the whip. He just said. He said, ty, let me ask you a question. I said, what? How many more?

[Angie Martinez]

Mm

[Tyrese Gibson]

hmm. No, I'm just asking, how many more?

[Angie Martinez]

Like, what's it gonna take?

[Tyrese Gibson]

What's it, what's it gonna take? What. You know, what is your. What's the goal here? You've been at it for years. And first of all, I didn't have an answer. That was the start of a problem.

[Angie Martinez]

Was that right away at 16 or you were older? This is years.

[Tyrese Gibson]

No, this is like, you know, when I got. Because the place that I was functioning from, I was broke, I was ugly, I was struggling, I was in the ghetto. Now all of a sudden it's full on record deal, traveling first class, limousines, picking me up from high school. Like, literally, I would get out of school and a limo was there waiting on me. Sweet lady was on my first album lately was on my first album. Like, everything just went crazy. And so the place that I knew, without even being aware of it, the place that I was functioning from was, you need to go big because this shit is going to be over soon. Like the Cinderella slipper. You've been broke your whole life. Food stamps, Social Security check, WIC vouchers, county checks, government cheese, living in the hood, every level of dysfunction imaginable. My house, mother, alcohol, father, crackhead. If you think for one second that this is going to last for longer than 30 seconds. You better go live your best life to the fucking fullest because you have been broke and messed up and struggling for way longer than this lightning in the bottle situation you're experiencing right now.

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[Angie Martinez]

So good.

[Tyrese Gibson]

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[Angie Martinez]

I got it. No, I got it. Seriously, I insist.

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[Angie Martinez]

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[Tyrese Gibson]

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[Angie Martinez]

Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it. Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.

[Tyrese Gibson]

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[Angie Martinez]

So me trying to gather it all.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, yeah. So the place that most of us as men function from is when. When you see a 50 year old in the club, he thinks it's going to be over for him soon. So when Rev asked me that question and I didn't have an answer to it, that was the start of my journey. I got married. First woman I ever been with that I didn't cheat on. And I'm in a relationship now. Five years. We just celebrated. Never cheated on her. I want to believe I have more access to women than most dudes right now, to this day. But God removed that appetite from the realization. How many more? So sometime it just takes you to have those very specific conversation. And no men, and no women want anybody to ever come down on them. They don't want to feel like they're being like, beat down. But when somebody could just pose a question and you leave and you just like, damn.

[Angie Martinez]

It shifts like you're wiring, right?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes. Yeah. Because now you can't justify it. You can't justify it. Like I could say to a woman, how many more shoes with the matching handbag? Like, how many more? And are you doing this because you love the shoes and the handbags? Or are you out here still in competition with other women because you already. You. Like I always say, a tall person don't have to play tall. You're already tall. You already Great.

[Angie Martinez]

A tree is a tree. A tree is a tree. A tree. Don't be trying to be a tree. It's just a tree.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I mean, you out here treeing. Use a tree in, motherfucker. Yeah. So it's like every single day, literally. And we all have our own individual process. These thoughts are expensive, and I want to reach them all. I'm not losing sleep over nobody else's gifts, nobody else's talents. I function from a place of. I'm so happy. Happy for you. And people ain't happy for you, but I'm so. I'm like the king of cheerleading for everybody that I love. I show up. I'm not a fair weather. I'm not going to run. When things get crazy and heavy, I'm there 3, 4am in the morning. I'll take six months of my life, if needed, to put you and your marriage and your situation in a better place if I can. But I'm actually on this mission every single day to meet and be introduced to a better version of myself. Like, that's all I want. I just want to bend the corner and be like, yo, I never met you. Everything about my life from this point on has to include you, because this version of me is way better than the person that I showed up as. And it's. It's every day, and I take conversations, and I have my moments, and I'm in my bag, in my zone. And then if we think, Angie, for a second of how many people we've lost.

[Angie Martinez]

I know, right?

[Tyrese Gibson]

So now there's a saying. It's arrogant to believe the next seconds of life belongs to you. So if you think you got next

[Angie Martinez]

week to get to it, who's to say?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Okay.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

So there is a clock in my head, and there's a sense of urgency on my life. Not that I think anything's gonna happen to me. God forbid. I'm here. I'm for the full run.

[Angie Martinez]

Well, the truth is, something is going to happen to all of us.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah. At some point. Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

There is a clock on every human being walking around. That's literally how this podcast was formed. You know, this podcast, before I called it in real life, the original name of this podcast was called We're All Gonna Die.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh.

[Angie Martinez]

And we changed because. For a lot of reasons, it was a little heavy.

[Tyrese Gibson]

There's some shock value in that.

[Angie Martinez]

It's tough to. No. But when we think, listen, if we wake up every day and remind ourself that we are on the clock, it changes how you operate through the world. It changes what kind of conversations you want to have. It changes how you show up, how you present, like, what really matters to you. And I wanted to have those conversations. So if the name was We're All Going to Die, it's like, okay, we're all going to die now. What?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah, I'M glad you changed that title.

[Angie Martinez]

You don't want to be reminded of that every day.

[Tyrese Gibson]

No, no. It's. It's because there's life and death and the power and the tongue. This is about. This is not God's opinion. It is his.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah, but life is power of the tongue. It's a fact. It's. We are all gonna die.

[Tyrese Gibson]

But if you speak to death every day and it's coming off of your tongue in any capacity, it's a bad thing. It's an energy that you're putting in the universe. We're all gonna live.

[Angie Martinez]

I don't think that's.

[Tyrese Gibson]

We're all going to live.

[Angie Martinez]

I think if you say I'm going to die tragic or I'm going to die, this is something else. If you say negative things. But the fact that we are all going to die is an actual fact.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It is an actual fact. But we're all going to die as energy that will contribute to a sooner expirational date.

[Angie Martinez]

Fair enough.

[Tyrese Gibson]

No, we're all going to live.

[Angie Martinez]

And you see how you're responding to it. There were a lot of people that responded that way. And that is the reason I changed the name.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

It's not so much what I feel because I know the spirit of it. The spirit of it is so I have today. What do I want to do with it? You know, so the spirit of how I release it and feel it is in a positive way. But I realize it doesn't land that way.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I didn't want that for you.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah. So I changed it. I changed it.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I changed it. Nothing about. That's why we're Angie Martinez. And death or trauma or something dark that's going to happen.

[Angie Martinez]

I didn't think of it as dark.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Well, death is dark. It ain't light.

[Angie Martinez]

Maybe.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Maybe light happens when you supposedly go to heaven.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah, for sure.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah. But dark is death. And it's sad, but the whole thing is, you know, get to it. You know, like, get to it. Get to it. Like it's arrogant to believe the next seconds of life belong to you. Get to it.

[Angie Martinez]

What are you getting to right now?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, my. What am I not. These thoughts are expensive. I'm trying to. I'm trying to unload all of them. Like I got. It's too much my brain. The visions, the dreams, the appetite. It's crazy. Like. Like crazy.

[Angie Martinez]

You want to change the world.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, that's just, you know. Yeah. It's crazy. Like, I don't ever question anybody's success because they get to money, how they get to it. But I was like, it must be a miserable life to be worth 30 billion and you have no visions and ideas or joy or love or joy or love. You just, like, that's what's in your account.

[Angie Martinez]

What do you value most in life?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Creativity. I'm addicted to creativity. I'm addicted to creativity. Like.

[Angie Martinez]

Oh, I get that. I understand that.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah. Like, I. I really feel like whatever this building is, if somebody did not get the ideas around this building out, we'd be sitting on the floor right now. If somebody decided that the clothes you're wearing, the clothes that I'm wearing, the glasses she's wearing, anything that they came up with, we are the consumer. Unless y' all made these clothes yourself. We love this outfit. Let me buy this outfit. But if they had kept the vision and idea in their head, we'd be sitting there with no clothes on. So everything is about implementing the vision and getting it out and stop letting the shit bounce around in your head like you got next week to get to it. Because if God put that on you, he could have sent the idea to somebody else. So the pressure that I put myself under to get ideas out is crazy. I just wish I had more money. I just need. Listen to anybody out here watching you

[Angie Martinez]

about to campaign for some cash.

[Tyrese Gibson]

The Angie Martinez show.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

If you're watching this show and you just so happen to be a multi. Multi billionaire.

[Angie Martinez]

Yes.

[Tyrese Gibson]

And you may have gotten to your money from tech, real estate, whatever the case may be, and you just like, oh, man, all I'm doing is running around buying the latest Maybach, the latest Bugatti, Richard Mille, Patique Philippe, and I'm just. I'm just spending money on random things. Call your boy. Your life will never be the same.

[Angie Martinez]

What is the first matter of business if that check is written to you?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Teddy Pendergrass movie.

[Angie Martinez]

I would love to see that movie. I've always wanted to see that movie. The second that you started talking about that, you know, certain things just. They fucking make sense, and they're supposed to be in the universe.

[Tyrese Gibson]

How about this?

[Angie Martinez]

It's like Kelly Rowland playing Donna Summer. That's supposed to happen. I don't know if it's on Broadway. I don't know if it's a show. I don't know if it's a. That's supposed to happen. Yes. Or Tyrese is supposed to play Teddy Pendergrass.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Or how about this?

[Angie Martinez]

What?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Me and Taraji doing our own version of Love Jones.

[Angie Martinez]

Yes.

[Tyrese Gibson]

The alpha male with A strong woman, funny, like a romantic comedy, but romance and like.

[Angie Martinez]

And you can't get these things funded.

[Tyrese Gibson]

No, but after this show, it's gonna happen.

[Angie Martinez]

It's gonna happen.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah. They're gonna call Mona Scott Young is her name.

[Angie Martinez]

Yes, Mona Scott Young. Also, if you happen to be here, I also have a few ideas. Let's look it down. Since we talking about.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Since we talking about, we ain't got till next week to get to it.

[Angie Martinez]

I have a few ideas.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Fall in. Come and meet us at the yellow table.

[Angie Martinez]

And you know what? You know what's so interesting about this theme? You know what's so interesting about this theme is I'm turning a corner in my kind of understanding about money. We just had Emma Greed on, and she was giving me shit. Because I was saying for a long time in my career, I didn't put money at the center because I was always taught, you know, not all money's good money, or you do what you love and the money will come. You know, I just had a lot of false ideas about money, and I didn't value it in a way that I should have because I. I'm not moved by it. Yeah. Personally. Right. I don't need it. I don't need the bag. I don't need the shoes. I'm not even like a material girl. I like nice shit. But I'm not pressed about material things

[Tyrese Gibson]

like, but such a Capricorn.

[Angie Martinez]

But the power in it, the power to tell people's stories, the power of our gifts as creatives to be able to get them out into the world. That requires money.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes, it does.

[Angie Martinez]

And. And I. And I now understand that. And I now understand the importance of those gifts that we have.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah.

[Angie Martinez]

And so. Yeah. So I'm going to ask for more money for everything that I do now for those reasons.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Well, here's my saying.

[Angie Martinez]

But it's just so funny to hear you, like, I don't know, you just write a name.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'm right there. I'm right there with you. You. My saying, which sounds very similar to yours, maybe it's a Capricorn thing, but I don't respect money. Right. I don't respect money. I know that it takes a lot of time and energy and grind and hustle and work. I know that most of what we do every day, we can't get done without money. And I also understand the value and some of the most beautiful and precious moments in life that don't cost a thing. Right. Sitting on a bench with a loaf of bread, with Your girlfriend, They're feeding swans or ducks or pigeons and smiling and laughing. Sitting at the lake is the high of all highs. And how much did that beautiful moment cost you? Not much. But when I say I don't respect money, it's from the capacity of these ideas. And I mean this literally, Angie. These ideas will stay in my brain if I don't have money that can help me to get them out. This would be a very different place if I was sitting on that type of capital. And I don't have no ill will and bad intentions with any of this that I'm doing. Yeah.

[Angie Martinez]

And you're gonna give it thousand percent.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I don't know. There is no other version of me that knows how to do it. Other ice life.

[Angie Martinez]

This might be a selfish thing right now.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah.

[Angie Martinez]

But take me through what you as Teddy Pendergrass. Sounds like, feels like, looks like. And I only say this because I am obsessed with Teddy Pendergrass.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I don't feel like being lonely tonight. You see? You see? I want some company. And you look like you're just my type. You're the kind. You're the kind of spirit to running free? Let's take a sip of some cocoa wine? Dance to the music nice and slow? And you won't feel any kind of pressure?

[Angie Martinez]

Cause we'll just let? We'll just let the evening flow?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Come on and go with me. Would you like that, V? Come on over to my place. Mm. Lee Daniels has to direct him.

[Angie Martinez]

Oh, my God. You know, when thi. When I was saying there's certain things that are just supposed to be in the world. My God, Tyrese,

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'm not gonna stop until it's done.

[Angie Martinez]

Let's take it all the way, though. That's what it sounds like. But what is this? What is. Because I'm a fan of his and his story. What is the spirit of it? Like, what is he. What is he telling the world in this project?

[Tyrese Gibson]

He gave me an assignment. I was one of the pallbearers of his funeral, carrying his casket. I know and love his wife, Joan Pendergrass. We spent about at least seven years prior to him passing. And he said, you know, nobody is sitting in his chair. I'm not mimicking, but I just want to show y' all this was the dynamic of our conversation. He's got a very raspy voice, kind of like shine when he talks, like, you know, nobody could play me in this movie but you. You know why? Cuz? Everybody's running around here trying to sound like me. Sing like me, you're the only one who really can act, really could sing. And you haven't been trying to mimic me and my sound. That's why you're the one. You're my son. Although I have a son, I consider you a son. That's why you're gonna play me in the movie. You hear that, Joan? To his wife I hear you. Honey, can you give me some water?

[Angie Martinez]

Are we all going to the movies?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah. But it was like wow. Just seeing his neck and. And just kind of how he could. It's only so much movement and just everything that I was able to study. I can't wait.

[Angie Martinez]

You know what else is too as interesting is that he had his own vices and demons and issues with women. And how you were Talking about the 16 year old version of yourself.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

And rev telling you how many, how many more he, you know, he lived

[Tyrese Gibson]

his best life to the fuck. But see, that's what I'm saying. It's that appetite. I do not, I can't speak for everybody, but I don't believe most people body count would be what it is if they actually knew that the money or what makes them suddenly attractive or this and that it ain't going nowhere. Like what excuse do I have now? After 30 years, they still scream for me. I'm still selling out arenas, I'm still doing the biggest movies in the world. I still live in a 20,000 square foot mansion with Rolls Royces. My kids are still happy. It's still here. So functioning from a place that it's all going to go away soon. Had to get off of me. So now. Okay, let me be more specific here because I really want people to get this. Sometime when you unexpectedly get blessed, your life feels like a rental car. And if it's a rental car and you in the limo for the prom or you in a rental car and

[Angie Martinez]

it's nice, you're running that shit ragged.

[Tyrese Gibson]

You're treating it like shit because you know it's gonna go away or just in general, this high that I'm feeling from this really nice car doesn't belong to me. And at some point I gotta give it back. So you're gonna go maximum extreme level of whatever it is you doing in that moment because you know at some point you're gonna give the Cinderella slipper back. At some point you're gonna be a frog again. At some point the swan is gonna become a pigeon again and just go back to being regular. So while I have it, I'm going to go big. But what excuse can you come up with now for steel clubbing? Still partying? Still spending on the level that you're spending on? Still seeking validation? Like when is the last time you hold on, it's a big one. Here's a big one. When is the last time you are alone? And why did that make you so uncomfortable? Because you need people around you all day, every day. Stroking your ego, complimenting you, validating you. Oh, so it so basically you got people around you that feel like if you don't give at least 10 compliments a day, you might be out of a job.

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[Angie Martinez]

So good.

[Tyrese Gibson]

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[Angie Martinez]

I got it. No, I got it. Seriously, isis.

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[Angie Martinez]

Oh, don't be silly. You don't be silly.

[Tyrese Gibson]

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[Angie Martinez]

Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it. Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.

[Tyrese Gibson]

No, the Wells Fargo ActiveCash credit card. Visit Wells Fargo.comActiveCash terms apply. I spend so much time alone, and at this point, it's something I prefer because people are distractions. These thoughts are expensive and I want to reach them all. Which is why you should call me at 1-800-Teddy Tyrese as Teddy 1-800-TRESE as Teddy the romantic comedy Opening up my own movie studio, which is on the scale of a Universal Studios. Hotels, restaurants, retail, tourism, developing whole islands in the Caribbean Island. I love that, you know, like, I'm going big. Like this ain't got nothing to do with me announcing that I'm releasing a hoodie. Who gives a fuck about a hoodie? We done seen too many of them. Okay, you have a hoodie on now.

[Angie Martinez]

By the way, though.

[Tyrese Gibson]

What happened?

[Angie Martinez]

You have a hoodie on right now.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I know. Cause it's just what I prefer to wear under this jacket. But it ain't my hoodie. Right, right, right.

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[Angie Martinez]

You try to do big things. I get it.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It's super big. And I'm. It's. I get frustrated with God sometimes because I'm like, God, why do you keep. Because, Angie, these ideas are so big and they're so detailed and they're so specific and I'm like, God, since you're such a specific God, when are you going to specifically let me do these things that are bouncing around in my

[Angie Martinez]

head that you fed me?

[Tyrese Gibson]

It's so clear.

[Angie Martinez]

You know why? Because it's God's timing. It's not your timing.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It is.

[Angie Martinez]

You just gotta keep submitting. But you're doing the right thing.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I just think God has a way of. I think God has a way. And this is my experience. I think God has a way of just wanting to make sure that you know that he did it. Because if it was about your handsome, your talent, your calls, your hustle, your follow up lunches and dinners and courting and nurturing the relationships to make you still like, well, damn, when is something going to happen? It all feels right. It all went right. The stars align and everything feels good. I like all these people. The money is there. When is it? Faith in the unseen.

[Angie Martinez]

I have to go back to something real quick.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Okay.

[Angie Martinez]

You're so good, Tyrese. We can have a four. This is going to be a four hour episode. Because something you said I thought was interesting and I thought you were going one way and you went somewhere else, but when you were talking about a rental car, because you had also talked about women and vices and all that stuff, I think that translates beyond money, beyond your situation and lifestyle. When you think about men, you were referring to men being in different with different women trying to. There's something that happens with men where if they're with a woman that they don't feel like they deserve, she's gonna leave me at some point anyway. I feel like they go out and almost ruin their home. I've seen this with people that I know that are married and I think maybe women do it too. It's almost like an imposter syndrome. Like how you were saying you feel like your life is rental, is rented, so you start ruining it.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Self sabotage.

[Angie Martinez]

It's self sabotage. I think you don't value yourself in that way or you don't think you're worthy of whatever the blessings is, whatever the gifts are that you just kind of it up.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah.

[Angie Martinez]

And I don't even think people realize they're doing It.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah, they don't, but it's also a habit that they've learned. They've seen their mom and dad up everything.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah, right.

[Tyrese Gibson]

So it's a go to.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah, for sure.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It's a pattern, It's a habit, It's a learned behavior. We all have baggage, but who's going to love you enough to stand you, to help you unpack it? Right. If you pulled up with 10 bags, physical bags, and I pulled up with 10 bags, we both got bags. But when you start unzipping them and you show me what's in each bag, your story has nothing to do with mine's. But who's going to love you enough

[Angie Martinez]

to say to go to those bags with you?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Because you get over the external, you could have some of the best sexual chemistry ever. And that'll be a reason to hold on for a little while. You can love the conversation. You can get deep. Oh, we could talk about deep stuff. It could be a lot of different reasons that you think that this is the one. But at the end of the day, you still are in a relationship with somebody that have a lot of things that are attached to them. So can we talk about it? Can we be transparent about it? And for those things that I can help you through, I'm gonna love you through it all. And then there's some things that's way beyond my pay grade where I, in this case, I'm like, babe, I love you, but I got alligator arms. And I ain't gonna be able to reach into these topics and reach into these issues or reach into these areas of your life and to help you to figure out what's going on there. So now I got to put you in front of a therapist, a real professional that could really unpack that because rather you're with me or not. It's still there. You can run from here to Australia. You're taking your problems with you. You got to unpack it.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

And so, yeah, it's, it's. Some of us, some of us could really function relationship wise on the surface.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

And do just fine.

[Angie Martinez]

Really. I think eventually.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Well, no, some people, some people can literally function on the surface.

[Angie Martinez]

You can do anything on the surface. I feel like everything.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I can't.

[Angie Martinez]

I feel like everything you do, from your, from relationships to your career to these big ideas, the frustration of not being able to bring them to fruition. It's like you feel everything so intensely.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It's so real.

[Angie Martinez]

But how do you manage that? Because that could also make you crazy.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Well, I Am crazy. You have to be crazy to even believe that it's going to happen, right? So, so. So imagine this.

[Angie Martinez]

We shouldn't say crazy. I feel like.

[Tyrese Gibson]

No, no, no. Crazy is a good thing, right? Crazy is only bad in the wrong hands. Money is a good thing. It's only bad when money ends up in the wrong hands. Money is the root of all evil. I disagree. Money ain't never been evil in my hands. I've never used my money to harm or hurt anybody. You put money in my hands, everybody's life is better. Everything is better. The experience is better. I tell niggas all the time, I love your yacht, but your yacht would be better if I was invited on it. Like, this is. This must be so fucking bored. Y' all must be so bored on this fucking yacht if you want to have fun on this big ass, 180 million dollar whatever this is.

[Angie Martinez]

I'm your guy.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'm your guy. Yeah, that's it. It's almost like how we feel about Kenny Burns or just people that just naturally got good energy. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like Kenny Burns. Yeah. Love kb, right? Like, it's like there's certain people that just. That they make every room they walk into better. So prior to Kenny Burns showing up to your boat, y' all was on this motherfucker just sweepies. Everybody sleep just like y' all ma, just handing out Tylenol pm. This is the most boringest fucking. We already out here on the ocean, and the ocean is supposed to put us asleep, but can we have some fun?

[Angie Martinez]

So, yeah, I just think you do value joy, right?

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'm the life of the party. We gonna have fun, but nobody gets hurt at the end of my parties, you know, there's no ill will and no bad intentions, you know? So I just think, who else but me to become the multi. Multibillionaire that's going to get these developments and these projects and these things off the ground?

[Angie Martinez]

I think you should go on a promo tour, like a fundraising promo tour.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I like it.

[Angie Martinez]

Do you see where I'm going with this?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes.

[Angie Martinez]

Because I think what you just. The gift that you just gave us of this little glimpse into Teddi's story. If you just keep lighting that spark, like, wherever you go, how could anybody stop that? I'm not saying to give away everything for free. Maybe it's little pieces of things or just it just keep. To keep sharing the gift that you keep referencing in whatever way it shows up for you on that day. But Intentionally. It's bound to. You don't think. Yes, yes, yes. But being intentional about that.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yes, very. And never letting up.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

And never questioning God. Just getting mad, get irritated. We're human. God. What are we doing?

[Angie Martinez]

What are we doing here? What did Tiana say? Tiana was on the show. She said sometimes I'd be like, God, like, for real. I have to have a real one with God. Like, why do you. I mean, she just had this glory moment, this glory year. But there was times where she, like, you. Big creative ideas. Creative all the time. She wants this. She was that. And she's like, why didn't any of these things work? You know, she. Record deals or whatever. So she's had those. She's like, I had to have a real one with God. And then I have to, like, pull myself down.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Well, you know what it comes down to for me. And if Teanna sees this message, that's my sister. I love her. I was just with her at the Black Women in Hollywood event in la. We had such a great, beautiful exchange of conversation. Listen, people that win Oscars, it's like the kiss of death. They disappear after they win. When you're nominated, you book way more movies than you do when you win.

[Angie Martinez]

Wow.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I don't know what the fuck it is. It's YouTube videos all over the Internet of what happens when you win an Oscar versus nominated versus nominated. And so if I could say to Tiana, the nomination, you're on fire. Something about. Something about what? People start overthinking and overvaluing the talent when they win the Oscar. You know, there's not a project that's good enough for an Oscar award winner. It's just all this stuff that happens. Nominated is a different level.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

And what she was able to do was all about her. People have never heard of her until they heard of her.

[Angie Martinez]

That's crazy. By the way.

[Tyrese Gibson]

And all this, she's 15 years old.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

She'd been at it. But here's the thing. We gotta think, right? We all live in our own matrix. Who doesn't know Teyana Taylor? Everybody. There's a whole lot of people never heard of her a day in their life, ever. Nothing about anything she's ever did, said song she sung has ever fell on their radar until now. And when they met her, she's now a seasoned veteran, legend. Beautiful. Showing up with outfits, killing every red car. And so you like, who the fuck? God? Who the fuck is this? You know what I mean? And so now, meanwhile, we've seen it but not everybody has all of it.

[Angie Martinez]

They're showing up as a. She's showing up as a new person to them.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah, there's a wow factor that's attached to a brand new thing that we never seen or heard of ever until now. And that is the moment.

[Angie Martinez]

That's the magic.

[Tyrese Gibson]

That is the magic of what God is about to do. Everything else was what you were supposed to see, feel, experience, and go through prior to your moment. You thought those were moments? No, those were moments leading up to the moment. Now, if you. You want to make God laugh, tell him your plans. Oh, yeah. Wait, wait. I cannot wait to see all that Tiana's about to do. Can't wait. Can't wait.

[Angie Martinez]

I'm sure you got a few projects you could probably attach her to.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I mean, you know, ready with the proper funding. Proper funding, yeah. I want to also share so proudly that of all of the radio shows, I've been approached about podcasts, reality TV shows, because my life is interesting. It's some funny shit. It's a lot. All cameras is rolling, a lot going on. So I came up with this random idea. Angie. Random. I have tyresepatreon.com and instead of me doing a podcast or doing anything that you're supposed to do, I guess because these are these usual things I decided. I'm sitting on 30 years of videos that's been on my hard drives with projects, ideas that have never gotten off the ground. Ran around pitching visions and ideas. Fully shot music videos has never been released. Cause the edit just didn't turn out right. And we winced the window behind the scenes of Sweet lady lately My song shame with Jennifer Hudson and Denzel Washington produced. I got so much terabytes and terabytes full of things that nobody has ever seen. And I think I'm uncomfortable because I've already uploaded too much shit.

[Angie Martinez]

And this is all gonna live on the Patreon.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It's all on my Patreon.

[Angie Martinez]

So what is it gonna cost us? Give me the cost for you for free. No, no, I wanna be a patron.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'll give you a code.

[Angie Martinez]

I wanna be a patron.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Okay.

[Angie Martinez]

I wanna be a patron. What is the fee?

[Tyrese Gibson]

There's four different categories.

[Angie Martinez]

I'm watch how this goes for you, Tyrese. Cause I too have 30 years of. I have 30 years of content. Some of that's never been heard of before. And I've often thought about this route that you're taking. So I'm gonna watch how it plays out for you and maybe I'll follow Your lead.

[Tyrese Gibson]

If this goes wrong, you should.

[Angie Martinez]

Okay.

[Tyrese Gibson]

You should.

[Angie Martinez]

Okay, good.

[Tyrese Gibson]

And tyresepatreon.com and what we just uploaded was about an hour and 20 minutes long. Is all of the fuckery and all the craziness that went down for this versus thing lead with me and Tank, and I had the cameras rolling. I was like, okay, I'm not the competitive dude. He is. We both Capricorn, but he's the other version of Capricorn. I'm like, bro, Kenny, you know, can we all just get along? Kumbaye, White flags. Who you got coming out? Oh, yeah, this is who I got coming.

[Angie Martinez]

Slice your throat.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, he wanted to come out and kill me. He had 17 people come out on stage during the verses. I had one. He tried to steal my background singer. You know, he. He had the sound man to mess up my sound on purpose. It was shady. So on Saturday at the UBS arena, and because of you, I might throw a Teddy Pendergrass song in on that stage.

[Angie Martinez]

There's so many good ones. What's that? Which one's that?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Come on. Go. Me?

[Angie Martinez]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Come on over to my place.

[Angie Martinez]

Yo, I could listen to this all day. I would literally just pay to see you in concert performing Teddy Pendergrass songs.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Wow.

[Angie Martinez]

See, I would pay for that.

[Tyrese Gibson]

The woman that's always bearing gifts, that's what she just did. Did y' all hear that?

[Angie Martinez]

I'm just saying.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Did y' all hear that? The Teddy Pendergrass residency.

[Angie Martinez]

I'm just saying, there's many ways to get to the goal. End.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Goal. Yes. Keep planting seeds, keep chipping away at it, and it's going to.

[Angie Martinez]

It's going to happen.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I believe it.

[Angie Martinez]

I believe it for you.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Tyresepatreon.com would love for y' all to join us and in success. And Angie's gonna join us, and she's gonna do a data dump on her hard drive.

[Angie Martinez]

Yes. I'm gonna wait, though, and watch. I'm gon Plays out for you.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Either gonna be the best ever, or

[Angie Martinez]

it's gonna be a.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Like, oh, oh, this, that, that, that, didn't l. Well, I love that we

[Angie Martinez]

had this conversation today. I see your passion and your vision, and I think. I hope it inspires people not for their own lives and for their own. Because we all have. Same way you have all of that. We all have. I have stuff bottled up that I. You know, all these things always stop us, but I always think there's a way if you really lock in, there's always a way. So I still hope people are inspired by that today and and will support you on your journey.

[Tyrese Gibson]

You got to be unapologetic about getting these visions and dreams out. Unapologetic loyalty has an expiration date. When God gives you visions and ideas and you don't move on them in any capacity, he's going to give it to somebody else. How many times, how many more times you want to sit at the house and go, yo, I can't decide. You remember I was just telling you about this idea?

[Angie Martinez]

Like what was that two years ago?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah. You ain't do nothing with it.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

So God said this idea has to reach the world. You playing games coming up with all of these reasons. You know, my brand and my image and the timing and all the goofy shit. Okay.

[Angie Martinez]

Or self doubt or whoever.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Self doubt, Insecurities, fear of the unknown. I've never done it before, you know. Listen man, here's the problem.

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[Angie Martinez]

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[Tyrese Gibson]

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[Angie Martinez]

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[Angie Martinez]

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[Tyrese Gibson]

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[Angie Martinez]

Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it. Rock, paper, scissors, Shoot.

[Tyrese Gibson]

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[Angie Martinez]

I have a couple of real quick speed round in real life questions and then I have a voice note. Okay. In real life, what are you most proud of about yourself?

[Tyrese Gibson]

I am proud that God has used me to represent what's possible

[Angie Martinez]

in real life. What are you no longer apologizing for?

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'm not apologizing for being late. Shit, man, I'm tired. It's traffic. Something caused a delay. It wasn't me.

[Angie Martinez]

In real life, I'm at my best

[Tyrese Gibson]

when in real life I'm at my best when I'm alone.

[Angie Martinez]

Really

[Tyrese Gibson]

everything that I'm thinking of and creating in my mind when I'm alone. These thoughts are expensive. And when I'm able to reach them all, everyone is going to be on the receiving end of this stuff that I was able to think about from spending time alone.

[Angie Martinez]

Mm mm. What is something that you have forgiven yourself for?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Have?

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah,

[Tyrese Gibson]

I have forgiven myself for the things that I didn't know or understand. I used to beat myself up when I would say things, do things, make a mistake, piss people off, drop the ball and I've just learned to forgive myself, give myself grace. Because if I was raised by Gladys Knight, if Anita Baker was my mother, a whole lot of decisions about what I was doing in the business would have been different. If an NBA player raises a young NBA soon to be player, he's got the whole blueprint of what to do and what not to do because he was raised by a champion.

[Angie Martinez]

You were figuring it out.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'm an alien. I'm one of one. I'm by myself. I've been winging it out here my whole life. And when I would make mistakes because the whole world is watching me grow up from the little kid right before their eyes, I would always beat myself up like, oh, why did I say that? Oh, why did I do that? I'll tell you why you said it and did it because your mama wasn't glad as night you didn't have a Mona Scott Young in your life that can sit you down and say, this is what's around the corner before they get there. So I had to give myself grace and stop beating myself up. The things that I've said and done that was embarrassing or that went viral and this and that, it's like you're looking at a duck. I'm sorry, a swan. And all of the stuff that I've either said and Done and mistakes that I've made and embarrassing myself is like water rolling off a duck back. It doesn't penetrate me no more. It just rolls off. And that's. That's a place that you had to get to stop going to sleep with your mistakes.

[Angie Martinez]

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[Tyrese Gibson]

Daddy's girl with a bald head. Your daddy's bald.

[Angie Martinez]

Is that a real thing?

[Tyrese Gibson]

I might as well answer my question with my hat off.

[Angie Martinez]

Are you one of them? Are you one of those?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, yeah.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Let me answer this question with my hat off. Well, at this point, as a father, I'm more concerned about what my daughter don't know. Men, boys, business life. People will take advantage of what you don't know. So she's 18 now. She's turning 19 July 11th. She's decided to go to college in Atlanta. I've been living there now for nine years. Even though I was born and raised in la. So now I have the fullness of my firstborn with me and the most significant black city you could ever live in, politically, business, wise, entrepreneurs, just all of it. And so I am so proud of the level of self discovery that my daughter is about to experience in Atlanta.

[Angie Martinez]

Are you guys super close?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm her go to. Ready to shoot, stab and kill. I just purchased my first ever shotgun. Like an actual shotgun. Like, for real shotgun. So whoever you are, whatever, the lip gloss is cracking and you see my daughter. Oh, man. I will use the shotgun. Such a different answer, man. That's my Shayla. She went viral from that.

[Angie Martinez]

My Shayla.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah. She's got a clothing line coming out called My Shayla.

[Angie Martinez]

Does she really?

[Tyrese Gibson]

She does.

[Angie Martinez]

That's sweet.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Yeah.

[Angie Martinez]

How is that? I have that. And then I have one loaded question. We're gonna do a bowl and wrap. How does that. I don't know. How do you manage that when something real is happening to you? Emotional, heartbreaking, or just. And you're in the most vulnerable state and it becomes something that people. It's a meme.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, it's. It's the. It's the swan and the water rolling off the back thing.

[Angie Martinez]

The swan goes off. Yeah.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I was on psych meds when I uploaded that video. It was on the Internet for six months before the psych meds were completely out of my system. So, yeah, people had fun. They never seen me like that. I'd never seen me like that. When I was. When I finally got in my regular head space, I looked at the video and I was like, oh, shit. Wow. And then fast forward. Because God loves me. Why does God love me so much? He takes the most vulnerable moment of my life about my daughter, and he flips myshayla into something endearing. So people don't say, what's good? My name. They go, my Shayla. And it's the way girls are hugging each other. It's the way people are greeting each other. Nobody in the world could have told me that something that was so vulnerable, fast forward would flip into something. So now when my daughter goes places and I be like, yeah, this is my daughter Shayla. Wait, wait, are you the Shayla? My Shayla. Me and my friend do it every we like my Shayla. You're the real Shayla. It's the craziest thing ever. It is literally like God has a sense of humor to flip that one.

[Angie Martinez]

Has anybody ever sent you that meme?

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, yeah, I see it all online.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah, all the time.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'VE been living with the. What more do you want from me and my shade? I've been living with that. Now, that was that video. 1012 years old now. So, yeah, for it to flip into something all over TikTok and be this positive, it just goes to show you, like, God loves me so much.

[Angie Martinez]

He does love you so much.

[Tyrese Gibson]

It's like, this is now my daughter's running around as a standalone Shayla, and it's like the most beautiful thing ever

[Angie Martinez]

versus what are you gonna do when she's in a relationship or later in life, she gets married and her husband or her boyfriend calls her my Shayla.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Well, that's a different Myshayla. I'm gonna tell him. She will always be Myshayla. But y' all married, and I got a shotgun

[Angie Martinez]

in case this gets crazy.

[Tyrese Gibson]

There's some boundaries in place that we all understand. Y' all have a good time. That's it.

[Angie Martinez]

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[Tyrese Gibson]

Okay. Okay.

[Angie Martinez]

I think God may give it to you.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Let's see.

[Angie Martinez]

I'm going to look for the one that I want to ask you for the closeout of the interview. Unless that's it. What is it?

[Tyrese Gibson]

When I walk in a room, I want people to feel. They've met a really nice person. I want them to feel like I created who I thought he would be in my mind. And I'm just so shocked that he was kind of like nothing that I imagined that he would be. And then I want someone who did not plan on spending 10 billion that week to say, tyrese has got a lot of visions and ideas.

[Angie Martinez]

I'm gonna give him my money.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I'm gonna give him my money because we was about to spend a lot of money on a whole lot of bullshit that didn't matter. Did not matter at all.

[Angie Martinez]

Great answer.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Thank you.

[Angie Martinez]

Killed the bull. You killed the bull. You killed the bull. There's. There's one. There's one question out of the bowl that you must have before you go.

[Tyrese Gibson]

I would love it.

[Angie Martinez]

Okay. This is my one for you.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Okay, here we go. If God were to text me right now, what would he say? I would hope that he would say, thank you for reminding people about me. Everywhere you go, every Bible verse that I post, when I say to people, don't ever give me credit for what I've survived and what I've been through. I give all the credit to the Lord Jesus Christ who loves me so much. Because when you can't explain it, when you tried everything to do it or get through it and pull through it, and you know that only God did that, he just don't ever want you to take credit for what he is there orchestrating the entire time. God is the alpha and the omega. He is the beginning, the middle, the end. He is all of it. And I've almost prided myself on making sure that I don't do anything without bringing Jesus into the conversation. And there are people that found themselves saying, I love Tyrese. I look up to him. I respect him so much. Man, I don't know if I would ever got through that. Well, I got through it, and God is the reason that I got through it, because while I was getting through it, I couldn't even believe I was getting through it myself. I thought it was over. I thought it was a rap. I thought that was a career killer. I thought it was a good run. And God said no, that was a setback for a setup. God is. God is the slingshot stick in the hand, the rubber band at the top. And you're the pebble, Angie. You. And before. Now, if he were to. If he. If he didn't love you, he would do this. Let the rubber band go, and then you would fall right on the table. When God really loves you, he's going to deplete you, stretch you, create levels of discomfort. He's going to pull you all the way back, and you're the rock. And then you, like, the rubber band is stretching all the way back. He's pulling you all the way back, because the moment he let that rubber band go, he's going to thrust you into a whole nother. Level so far, you're not even going. People ain't going to be able to see the rock. Where did it go? That's the type of love you want. So, God, whatever your process is, whatever public shaming, embarrassment, whatever mistakes I've made, first of all, I didn't know I was gonna make it this far in my life and my career. I had no idea I would still matter in any capacity after a 30 second commercial. Who do you think you are? You think you're sitting around with some type of crystal ball or something? That ain't enough handsome, ain't enough talent, ain't enough singing, ain't enough movie roles that can get you on and keep you on this long. God loves you and he has all of this in mind for you. So just love yourself enough to show up every day and do the best you can with all of the things that God has in mind for you. That's what my text would say.

[Angie Martinez]

That is a long text.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Oh, yeah, my texts are normally pretty long. So God knows me. He's like, you be sending them long and I'm gonna send you one too. God. Really? Really? Yeah. That's. What's it. That's. That's it.

[Angie Martinez]

But the moral of his text is keep saying his name.

[Tyrese Gibson]

Keep everywhere you go. I need. I need to listen. If you ain't got God on you, you should assume that when you walk in the room, God wasn't there before you showed up. Speak on it. Talk about it. Sit there. You know, I went through something like that before. Talk about it. Talk about it. Transition into what God got you through. Talk about it. Because the Word is not his opinion. It's the word of God. So if it's the Word, it's not up for discussion.

[Angie Martinez]

Yeah, he got you.

[Tyrese Gibson]

He got you.

[Angie Martinez]

He loves you.

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He loves you. He loves us.

[Angie Martinez]

He loves us. Tyrese in real life.

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[Angie Martinez]

Hey, guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like, comment and check out all of the other episodes we have on Andrew Martinez, IRL podcast.

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