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BEST OF OCTOBER | Allen Iverson & Common's Fat Joe stories, Mobb Deep taking Jada & Styles P's track, 50 Cent's debut & "I miss my Uncle George"
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That's like up there with Snoop. 50 is up there with. With Doggy Style. You ask me for the east coast, for the World Coast. It had the same kind of effect as Doggy Style. Man. That shit was everywhere when it came out. Some shit is semi everywhere. Both of them shits was everywhere. Everywhere. You could think of white people everywhere. Every commercial, every spring break, every. When you open your door, your window, you saw that shit. It Richard trying Doggy Style. Imagine you got beef with him shortly after that. And they playing that. We was beating up. Every DJ allegedly did not play this. Yeah, the beef wasn't the beef when had beef with 50. It was at the Get Riches out drive. It worked bad. No, no, it was really bad. It was still the residue. It was the other album. And Piggy bank. Yeah, it was down there. Cooled off a little. Not a lot, but a little. Enough to be high. Yeah, that was a different kind of force field. We don't play that. We don't hear out. That shit was crazy. And when you create music, 50 Cent was giving you like three songs in one song. Three different hit flows and hooks. This shit's crazy, bro. That album could have really been three albums, four Albums. The way he was doing all that shit. Oh, to unit. We don't play around. He was like, yo, it was too easy for him. I don't know what kind of zone he was in, but everything was too easy for him. He had the bars, he had the beats. He felt like my back right now was killing shit. It's a difference. There's a difference between street park bars at your leisure. You can have a nice pop. You come down. When we see him in the videos in the street bar, he can jump out, have a coconut. It's different when you're in jail doing bars in the bars. I did the. Because that's what they did to him. He was trying to like, compete with them. And then we ain't doing like, Kim don't do that two times. Two times felony. You ain't doing boss like Jada Kiss. Get out of here, babe. The doing where he going up like this. Doing all type of. You ain't doing all that. Don't, don't stop, please. Just cause you did jail time don't mean you know how to do the. They don't know how you pedal the bike. I'm not. Don't do that. Jay Z. Reasonable Doubt. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. He taught me, right? Cause I was a street dude. What he told you, man, I was a street dude. But I didn't really so much really get into like the business. Dawn drug dealer to like. My second album, the first album was I stick you up, I smack you up, you know, all that type of shit. But that Reasonable doubt showed me you could talk. Like I could real. My live my real life music. I'm listening to his shit and I felt like it was my life. I felt like, yo, you could rap about your life in music. So in videos, I'm wearing the army fatigues, but I'm going to my man's party with the sky blue suit on, with the gators, with the this, this, this. Now we could rap about it and put it in the video and do that. I felt like Reasonable Doubt did that for me. And I remember driving back and forth from New York to Miami, just playing that one album back to back to back to back. That's another one right after Illmatic. That kind of changed my life to where it was like, all right, if you gonna rap this way, you need to be. You need to talk more about your life. You need to talk that shit. You need to die. That pushed me more towards me being the Don Cartagena, like publicly. I was already the Don Cartagena behind the scenes. But publicly it said, you can do this. And I don't know what the fuck Onyx first album was with them, too. They changed Fat Joe's whole life, Slim. Cause I was like, pick him up dead. One shot. I was like, back the fuck up, Onyx. Unsung heroes. Some of the greatest music I ever heard was Onyx. Sticky just sent me something. Still not right now. 2025. He sent me something. I'm telling. Are you listening to me? Sticky just sent me a song that's crazy. Last week. Crazy how to pick beats, bro. The beat is crazy. They knew how to pick beats. They had some meat. One of them. Onyx. Think it's the second one. The beats on the second Onyx album is probably some of the best. I'd be trying to revisit those. Shit's great, yo. Huh? Fred Joe. Nobody write Fat Joe rhymes. I seen you, my brother. I love you. I see you on the video, on the. He said this? Yeah. He said, you know, Joe got ghost riders this and that. Yo, you're delusional. Nobody could write my life, write my rhymes, nothing like that. And I love you, phajo. Fred Joe's a good guy. I've just bigged you up on another level by seeing you the only person in history on the video talking about, yeah, Joe, we know. Joe got. Please, brother. You got me up. 30 something years of doing this. I do this in my sleep. But Fred Joe produced all that. Let me tell you something, he's a genius. Carolina Herrera, them guys was different, and they changed my life. So, Fred Joe, when you look at my interviews about you, they always say, you changed my life. Documentary the Game Crazy. Is that an album? Game is the first rapper that if you didn't tell me, but he says it a million times. But if you didn't tell me he's from Compton, I would think he's from New York. He was the first. You know, the west coast, they got their own sound heard. He said he was the first young rap. Compton with a yonkish flow out of Bronx. A yonkish flow. Look it up. Compton with a yonkish flow. I repeat, still New York. Yucky. And we agree. No, listen, I agree with him. Yo, what you want me to do? Yonkers Locks are some of the greatest rappers ever lived. I'm not disrespecting that. Who said that? No, he said that. He got a Yonker slow, okay? I'll give you that. What I'm trying to say is Martin Luther had A dream. Yeah, Dream Hated or love it Crazy. He had nuclear missiles on on both. All of the documentary to this day. First one debut though, is a smoker. Nobody can front the numbers. The numbers prove it. Four or five million, right? I'm gonna save it. Nobody. Ain't nobody saying ready to die. I think he is over here playing around like, ready to die. I was just floating all over. Ready, floating over. We stop floating for a minute. Ready to die. He came in and switched the old way. Was rapping back then. Who bi. Biggie Smalls changed the whole entire rap game. His flow was his debut albums. His flow, his cadence to this day don't make sense. He died when he was like 26, 27. He only did two years of damage and it's fucking phenomenal. There's not a day, not a day in my blessed life that God has given me that I do not hear Biggie Small song. What he was able to do to take rap underground music and commercialize it changed my life and every other rapper's life. He was 24 years old when he died. Fucking baby. 25 or 26 or 26? 24. 24. Pac was 26. Oh, it was Pac. Pac was young too. 26. But man, 25 and 24 is crazy, man. Rest in peace. Barely get in the club. Ain't that some bullshit? But Biggie Smalls to this day, his flows, his cadence, you know, I help get the song together with him and Bone Thugs in Harmony. That's another album. Look up the. The. The. The first Bone Thugs and Harmony. First album sold 30 million records. It's 1999. For the Love of money Gotta get that money, baby Money, baby Gotta get that money, baby Let me tell you something, boy. I miss my Uncle Georgia. Call him George. Miss my Uncle Georgia. His Uncle Charles. It's Uncle Charles. Uncle George. I miss my Uncle George. Yo, Uncle George, you know, yo, listen. You know how you go to the AA meeting and be like, hi, I'm Joe. I'm an alcoholic. He's like, hi, I'm Fat Joe. I'm a fuck up. I'm a bug out. I change all the words. That's why we gonna have a problem, Rich. Oh, he put it back, Rich. Do it back to Nah. It's just I can't even memorize my own rhymes. So imagine memorizing your rhyme to somebody else's rhyme. I fuck everybody's shit up, but I got that bone and Biggie done Biggie Hit me up, said Joe, I wanna rock with your mans. I know they your mans. We on the same label. I'm hanging out with them every day. They had a relationship with Pac. I had to really, really convince them. And I know to this day they're happy I convinced them. Steve Lobel brought him to the studio. The rest is history. But that bone in Biggie Biggie boning and nobody in New York was thinking about Armin Dangerous. Ain't too many can bang with us. Sing up we know Angel Dust, Notorious so called Beef with you know who this. Nobody was thinking about that flow at that time. When he did it, it was like, you know, big with somebody that is like you. I mean, damn, man, we gotta big this invite over. I actually salute the man. Biggie was like you in the very way of you never said a whack verse. So every time Biggie could rhyme on 112, he could rhyme on fucking a girl's TLC shit, whatever commercial. It ain't not anything that we would listen to him. We would listen to the new verse and be like, damn, Biggie did it again. He was super nice. He did this and this and that. It was crazy. You know what I'm saying? B I G that ready to die. That shit to this day is one of my favorite, you know what I mean? From the slave shits from the same Night and the two fault, yo, Biggie, Biggie, I had my homies total bust of shit every record. It wasn't just Total. I don't know if it was a fan, but as a rapper, every verse similar to you. Every verse Biggie ever spit, we would analyze it immediately and be like, yo, he did a song with Total, you know, everything. You'd be like, damn, bodied that shit again. It's not easy to body every single verse. You know, Jadakiss, you know, he's really good at that, you know what I'm saying? We listening for every verse. Like, oh, shit, Jada gonna spit that shit right now. Who else you put in that? In that category of every verse they ever spit, you would listen to it like, oh, he about to spit that shit, huh? Black thought is superiorly nice. We all agree recipes d' Angelo rest in peace. The man was Coc Diesel. I've been fat my whole life. I'm keeping it a buck. No, no, I'm just saying to you, it's like, yo, I gotta appreciate every day. I'm at the point where when I wake up in the morning, I peek to see the sun and be like, oh, God, Yo, I'm a fan of this show, Coc. Diesel is one of them. You can't say that no more. Cock. Diesel is. And you love to say it. Flagrant, yo. You love that. You love it so much. Pause. You too, huh? This show is like fucking Eddie Murphy, Beverly Hills Cop. It's one of them shits where my partner shits on me every day. It's unbelievable. Believable, you know? Now you got people said, jadakiss don't even believe him. That's why he throws the face. He throws it like you got a little going on out there. Were you giving the suckers some content? You know what I mean? Cause we got blood. Well, you could throw another one. We got blood suckers. He threw his own. They whole. They whole shit is based off what we talking about. And so that's how I know how we drive in the culture is when you got other guys like, okay, what Jadakiss say, have anything sound like Kiss to sign right here. It's the same way in the podcast. I watch guys wait till a new podcast come and they fake think they lit and they go on right about what we say, and they got a problem with it or they agree or they whatever. So we giving them. We feeding them content. You know what I'm saying? So it is what it is, brother. The flags. It's okay, you know, I know what I'm doing. I'm into getting money. Oh, we know. A whole lot of money. I'm not even gonna lie to you guys. And so we in this podcast game. Motherfucker came out of jail. Fabio Foreigner said, no, save the records Hitmaker. I'm a stream streaming podcast. No, no, I'm not saying that. But he said, they asked him. He came out of jail. I don't know if you've seen that little video clip. And they said, you go in the studio. No, I'm streaming. I'm streaming. It got to be a reason. That's where the bag's at. The podcast, the streaming. That's where the bag's at. So you see me in it. You may laugh. And I'm here to entertain you. I told you, we provide a service. But I laughs that Glizzy Talk is going to turn into so many M's. And I'm gonna say thank you for loving the Glizzy Talk. Thank you, Joe gonna be the spokesperson for Oscar Mayer. Like, I'm willing to check. Yo, J, get on the subrets, yo. But I'm true. I'm. Listen, bro, I'm true to what I say. You say, cap, I went to the Yankee game the other day. I mean, glizzies. The guy next to me is eating steak, lobster, crab, clam. You know, the Yankees, they got some shit. They got a. Like a. A club. You've been in there, right? Steak, lobster, this, this, this. I'm glizzy Mania. Little mustard. I don't give a fuck. Little mustard. Yo, yo, little mustard. We going to the awards later. My wife try to cook me all type of shit when we had a. Yes. It might just give me a couple of glizzies, man. I'd be. I. Then we'll go to awards show. Maybe we something over there. I don't give a fuck. Is it nostalgic? Like, what is it with the. I don't even want to say that word about I'm not phobia. Hold on. That is your. How about, I'm not phobic, you know, I'm cool with some gay guys. Just, like, really gay. Okay, okay. ATL's finest. And I'm in the Essence Fest. I don't know no better. I'm in the golf cart, I see my man, Ms. Lawrence. I'm like, yo, Lawrence, I jump. These guys are like, you know, they holding up the flag in another level. His friends are looking like, yo, Fat Joe, the gangster rapper jumping off the. I don't give a fuck if you my brother and I love you. I don't give a fuck for sure. So I'm jumping off the car. Yo, Lawrence, what's up? Yeah, yo, I don't give a fuck if I say, Glizzy. I know who I am as a man. I don't care about none of that shit. None of that shit bother me, man. Certain shit just don't sound right, though, Joe. Like, I feel you. Like I know you older. This nigga say, I'm done with the Pause gang, the Paul's Police and all that other shit. But, like, certain stuff don't sound right. Certain shit sound crazy, huh? Sounds unbelievable. You see the flags? They out. Yo, they out. We here, man. We here to talk about the new docu series. Tell us about it, man. Look, I said it last night at the premiere. The way I describe it, it's a confirmation to the world that the devil is a sucker. You know what I mean? And he can't fuck with me. Fucking right, bro. Talk that shit. He's a liar. He's a liar. He's a. He's a wimp. He's a shrimp. That's right. He's a peon. You know what I mean? He's a manipulator. He pray on the weak. He pray on the people that don't believe in God, you know what I mean? He's just a sucker. And my journey proves that. The ups and downs in my life, the turbulent times, the times where, you know, you fall down and then you believe in him so much, he enables you to get back up, brush yourself off, keep on going. My mom told me at 8 years old, I could be whatever I wanted to be in life. And I actually believed her, you know what I mean? All those times my friends in store garden, you know, used to tease me, Chuck, you know, saying he going to the NBA. No, nigga, don't nobody make it in the NBA from here, you know what I mean? Nigga hit this nigga took this line, you know what I mean? Come on, Chuck, you know what I mean? You ain't making it. Come back in the crib crying and all that. Marty said, I can't do it. Whatever. She said, you can do whatever you want to do. From that moment, at 8 years old, I knew that I would be here right now, today because of those words that came from her, you know what I mean? And then navigating through this life, all the things I've been through, all the turbulent shit, the ups and downs, you know what I mean? My grandma told me before I got sentenced, the day they sent me to jail, I was 17. Well, I was 8 years old. They waited till I turned 18 to try me as an adult. 18 years old. And that morning I said, nah, nah. Why are they doing this to me if they know that I didn't do what they accused me of doing? Why is this happening to me, you know? Why is God letting this happen? And she said, son, don't you ever question God. And I never have, you know what I mean? From that point on, I never questioned God. Anything that happens going in my life, you know what I mean? I've been through a lot in my life, you know what I mean? I've been through, like, you talking about Rob Boogie, different friends of mine. True, you know what I mean? A lot of guys that I love, you know what I mean? A lot of people in my life, in my family that passed away, you know, different things happening in my career, you know, even getting to a point where my money was funny, you know, the lowest part of my life with getting divorced, you know what I mean? From a girl that I've been with my whole life, that man bless you at your lowest, you know what I mean? I know everything and it's like when you think it's over, you get a miracle check. What? Bam Bubba. Jump back like a motherfucker, yo. Never questioning them, though, what, you know what I mean? And it's a gift. It's a gift crack, you know what I mean? This documentary is a gift to that. And everybody, like, you know, they do the. It's so cliche when we always talk about, you know, us as entertainers, athletes or whatever, that we only supposed to be role models to kids, you know what I mean? We inspire everybody, all ages, you know what I mean? We, we inspire them, you know what I mean? We. We help them believe, you know what I mean? They live, you know, through us and believe through us, you know what I mean? People look at it, if Chuck can make it, I know I can. And that's the message, that's the gift to show you everything that I went through, you know, throughout my life and being an open book, you know what I mean? A lot of motherfuckers just be so embarrassed about things that they went through in their life. The ups and downs and. And the mistakes that they made. I ain't that. You know what I mean? My girl, tell me all the time, you always let motherfuckers stress you out and you care so much about people. Why do you do that? And that's not a gift that I have. I don't know how I try my hardest to not let it stress me out, whatever. I'm just like that. I'm a big hearted people person and I love who I love, you know what I mean? But my gift, a gift that I do have, is that I am an open book. I don't mind, you know, telling you the mistakes that I make. I tell my kids all the time, you know, why do you have to learn the hard way? You know what I mean? And I already did, you know what I mean? Why can't you listen to what I'm telling you? I love you. I want you to do what's right. I don't want you to go through the shit that I went through. And I made this big ass uproar like last night before last. When was it? Tuan? Night before last. We did Atlanta, the book tour. And Tip told me, he said he moderated my joint. And he was like, yo, man, your homeboys did a number on you, you know, but he was saying it, you know, he was saying it like, all you talk about is the pain and the hurt that you have from the dudes that you grew up with. Like these motherfuckers. Like, I was the one that took that ass whooping with bringing your entourage. And you remember, I was the first one that took everybody from my hood with me, you know what I mean? To show them the world. And ain't none of them here something controversial all the time. And ain't none of them here. I say you the closest thing to Tupac, because you're the only person I ever seen play basketball and have a fucking after party in every city where the realest guys, these guys ain't no fucking chumps. Got the AI, the Allen Iverson jerseys on the whole fucking party every night. Guys that won't give it up to somebody, guys that ain't in the business of being suckers. They was wearing the AI jerseys. And I was like, yo, I always tell everybody, I said, yo, that was the closest thing I seen. The Tupac Shakur, the love and the pure respect from every gangster in every hood that you have always had. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet. The NBA is finally back. Where's New York at? Right, big expectations this season. You could bet NBA games any night on the app. And if you think you know the future script for this season, lock in your future bets. Is this finally New York's year? Who's going to be mvp? Rookie of the Year? 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Yeah, I'm trying to. And you know, Ross started that. Oh, shit. Oh, so he starts, something happened. Rock you remember. All right, you admitting that something happened. Yeah. You say, I got you beat up. He got hit by in the chest with a Heineken bottle. Yo, but they threw a box. He said, I got him beat up. He got hit. Somebody threw a Hanigan bottle and hit him in the chest. Hit him in the chest. Yeah. I. I never said. I never said that didn't happen. But he said, he said, I got him beat up to the chest. Did nothing to you. He said, I got him beat up. Well, first of all, Rob snuffed the dude. Ra Ra jumped in the crowd after the dude, right? We are his birthday party. He the hottest shit going on out there, right? I don't understand this. One minute we over there, we like, yo, we were AI bad news. The next thing, they throwing so many. No, man, you was rapping, performing. You was performing. And it was a. It was a. In the stands that wanted to. He wanted the mic. And Rob was telling the dude, chill. And then after he started telling him chill, then the dude was, y' all then. And then Rogers What I do know is we had to dump. They threw, they threw so many glasses of Jack Daniels, you got hit by a. That was gonna spear him. Got hit by a Heineken bottle. See, whenever people talk about him capping on the joint. See, I know him personally, so I know. I've never known him as a liar. You know what I mean? And he. And, and what people gotta understand. Should take the flags back. Listen. Yeah, yeah, listen. But, but listen. I'm listening. Only, Only thing like the stories that you know where I wasn't there. You know what I mean? I can't confirm them. Yeah. You know what I mean? All I can, I can speak on the person that's telling the story. So I know he don't, he don't lie. He never lied to me. So when he telling my stories, that's what I go off. So he get him 99.9%, right? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? We got our ass beat, man. That didn't happen. I'm telling you the truth. Everything, everything is. So if you, if, if he called getting hit by the bottle, I ass whipped it. He got his ass whipped. We played 70 games of spade for sure. And we was in there for hours. And we were so hyped to go to this part. I don't know what the. I just told you what happened. Because when we pull up everybody chasing us. Like, he got the drop tops out there. So it's like Ali, boombaye, everybody. Oh, yo, they. Yeah, you know. Cause, yo, you remember what you told to me in front of my Uncle Stevie house? I wanna know that day we was in. Yeah, I ain't gonna throw no flag on him. Look, I'm telling you, look, if you think about all the shit that he's done in his life and the places he's been and the events he's been to, like, and all the shit that go on in a motherfucker like his life, man, you cannot be totally accurate on everything. That shit get blurry. And then we. Well, I know I drunk a lot, you know what I mean? But I remember being in front of my uncle's house, in front of uncle Stevie house. I had the blue Bentley Azur drop top joint. And we were sitting out in front of the joint and he was like, yo, Chuck, I'm gonna have one of these one day. You know what I mean? And the first, I don't know what was your first color? Was it the silver one? Sky blue. Sky blue joint. Sky blue joint. And I remember, I don't Know, I don't know. I know it wasn't the video. Cause you know, usually in the videos, you know. Cause I had. When I was in Atlanta, I had everybody using my car as a video. But I remember seeing you in it, it was something they was doing. And you was driving the joint. And man, I was watching it on TV and it fucked me up. You know what I mean? It felt so damn good. Cause I was like, yo, like I was a part of that. Like, he told me that he was gonna get him one of them joints. And you had the joint, man. You got the joint, you know, I got the picture with him. He was like Fat Joe, this guy, you remember, he was Big J, the kiss. He was a little chubby. Never like Fat Joe, he was a little plumpy. I got the fucking picture, J. A little bit better. I got the fucking pitch. You could do pull ups now with one finger and all that. But back then you was eating that fried chicken. Boy, that boy. Boy, some up. I got that picture. He get mad. I post that like every three months for no reason. Be like me and Jada. I don't get mad. Why you posting that, Joe? I love when you post, man. Let me. Yo, do you remember that night, though? I do. You took. No, I'm talking about when you took me. We couldn't find a hotel. You remember that? Remember that? When you told that story? Let me. Yo, but I told it the right way. Yes, you did, but let me. I don't know about. I don't think I had a game the next day, though. Yes, you did. We were smacked. Listen, first of all, the owner hate me. What's his name? Bob? Pat Croch. He thought I'm smoking and drinking with you and this and this and that. He told me one day we went to some Adam Sandler window. And he said, fat Joe, man, I'm so proud of you, man. How you. He said, I used to tell him all the time I didn't want you with Chuck. I thought you was a bad guy. I said, yo, I was the nicest guy there. What the fuck are you talking about? So he comes up, he got a game like Saturday. And he come to Jimmy's Cafe with us. He got the drop top. You said I was driving. I was not drunk. All right? You wasn't driving? So I was drunk. I never drove drunk. I never did. Okay, he never drove drunk, right? I used to be drunk as a motherfucker. Let me explain something, okay? Like, we was tore down. Bubba Chuck had the game the next day. But I mean, like, not regular. Like smack. Like walking sideways and shit. You said, my man said I threw up. And I ain't never throw up. I never threw up drinking. Yeah. Cause I remember you telling the story. I ain't never threw up drinking. We pull up in my man's house in the bummiest area of the Bronx. It's the only place to go. Do you remember him? Do you still rock with him? Yeah. Slept on clothes. Yes, we slept on clothes. House is so bummy that they got clothes all on the floo. You still cool with. Of course. He's family. What you want me to say? I'm telling you a true story. Yeah. We spend the night. He got a game against the Knicks. The next day, I wake up, he's gone already. So I wake up, say, 10 in the morning, Chuck is gone already. I don't know how he did it. So I go to the Knicks shooting round. Nick, you have to get. Man, if I'm. I'm keeping it a buck with you. We drank so much. I had diarrhea the next day. Like, I was fucked. And Jimmy's too. Jimmy, I was two. That shit was crazy. And I go to the. I'm fucked up. So I go to the game and I'm purposely. I'm not courtside. I'm like 10th row, like, hiding. And I'm looking at. He dropped like 41. He was in the yallows. In the Joe Button C. Stop. You gotta stop Instagram. You think about it, though. Think about it. How old was I? That recovery time was nothing. They gave us a sign. I don't know who's controlling your time, but. Hold up. So he only got five minutes. Mama, come over here. I want you to sit on the couch. Make this legendary. You know what I'm saying? Sit down. Mama, you know we love you. How proud are you to be Bubba Chuck's moms and his journey in life. You know, with Bubba Chuck and all the success and how you see him come around as a man, it's important. Cause you're the first mother athlete's mother that we all fell in love with. We love you. Braiding his hair in the middle of the court. And you. I gotta stop you with that. That's not me. That's not me. I braided his hair. He's supposed to know that I braided his hair from all the. When he first wanted his hair braided. Now I did braid his hair, but his hair was coming loose in the back and he was worried about his hair. You Know, he liked to be fly. He was worried about his hair coming to loose. So, you know, my sister called me, and she was like, ian, he keep on telling me and looking at me and I don't know how to braid here. And I was like, brandy, but all you gotta do is just braid his hair. You braid him just the back of it. And so when I got there, I saw my son. That cap rubbing off is rubbing off on it. If it is cap, it's rubbing off. Cause Mommy got. Yeah. Cause Mommy got over there. Mommy got his oh, flag. Mommy got the story wrong. It is what it is. I gotta be authentic. You taught me to be that way. You know what I mean? It didn't go down. It didn't go down. And then he over there calling, now, I'm Bubba Chuck. Why are you talking to Mommy now? Now I go to. At first, I was AI. Now I turned into Bubba Chuck when he talking to Mommy. But it didn't. It ain't. It ain't happened like that. Well, it happened. You. You. You. I got my version. You got your version? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So all of a sudden, you know. You know, my mom's ain't here, man. So we want to hear it, like, you know. You know, how proud are you of your son, man, and all his accomplishments and how he inspired generations of people. First of all, I was proud of him from the first day I saw him, you know, because back then. Yeah, back then. Back then, when you have a baby and I was so young, like he said, so, you know, I had to have him cesarean birth, and I was sleep. So when I came, when I woke up in recovery and they brought me to. Brought him to me, and I was like, he's so light, and you know what I'm saying? But when he opened his eyes and he looked at me and I saw my eyes looking back at me, I said, oh, yeah, that's my baby, you know? And I checked everything on him. I checked everything on him. But what really blew my mind is, first of all, I got kicked off the basketball team because I got pregnant with him. But what blew my mind was his hands and his arms. His arms was past his kneecap. When I laid them out like that, they went way past his kneecap. And I was like, I got a baller. And I was happy. I was happy. And so I told my family. I told my whole family. I was like, you know, I got a baller. So everybody was, like, looking at me like I was simple or whatever. But the thing is, from that point on, he came in my life and he was the perfect child. He was not hard headed. He would listen to everything I said and he loved the daylights out of me. And at that point I needed love because of the fact that my mom had died at 29 years old. Malpractice. But anyways, the Iverson says, senator to Virginia. And that's the best thing they could have done for me. And when I had him, when I was carrying him, I was pregnant, playing ball in Hartford, Connecticut. And I went from there to Bethel High School playing ball. And he had a favorite cheer. And his cheer don't do that, Ma. Okay, we gotta hear it. We gotta hear it. Mama, Mama, Mama. Don't listen to him. Yeah, tell us the chair. Yeah, it was your favorite cheer. And it used to be. No, no, it used to be everybody be on the court. And we had halftime and then they had everybody else sing go Bruins, go. And everybody will shut up and he'll say, shake that thing. So that's my story. But far as proud. I want to tell you something that he said to me this year. I said, bubba, I said, you know, I am so proud of you. I said, you just make me so proud. I'm proud of you. I just wanted it to express that to him so he'll know it from my heart. Yeah. And he said, I'm not finished. He said, I'm not finished making you proud. And that's what he been doing. With that being said, this ain't that. That ain't that. This cracking kiss makes some noise for our guests, AI and Mama. There's two moments in my life, in my career that I could cite you for and just want to say thank you, bro. It's like you don't know what it meant to me. One was you putting me in the video. And your video hustling is the key to sex, man. Like, you know, them pictures come out. Like once you see them pictures, like it's gonna be here forever. I love that, man. We was kids in the. But you pulled up to the Bronx. That missed something, though. That missed something because let him give me his flowers. Coming from Chicago, man, one of the things we wanted was just to be heard by New York. And for you to be like, yo, come on. Even though he's on the same label, if you thought I was on some weak shit, you'd have been like, you can slack back on that. Thank you, thank you. The beloved of all beloved. I'm gonna tell you some shit. Yeah, Let me hear the second One. Well, the second one we didn't. Talked about a lot where you. Man, you practically saved my life. Oh, get the other flag back. Yo. Yo, jj, he got his. Yo, that man really saved my life. Like, I was out on the west coast with my guy. One of my guys I knew through one of my close homies, but he was my guy. And he just wasn't happy with the whole situation. The whole ice cube Mac 10 beef that we had told him we had squashed it. We doing it. We sitting there doing a commercial. This was the most money I was getting paid ever for something at that point in time. So we at peace. We like, yo, things is good. Everybody was saying, my guy just be from Chicago. We just couldn't. He couldn't hold it. So he started ruffling shit. And, man, it just got a little heated. And I want to say that it's not. Cause Fat Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally beg for your life. I literally got in the middle, was like, please. He's my friend. He's my brother. You know, he. You know, some people take things personal. And they finally saw him, and he was on there. Saw you. And they was talking crazy. And I was like, no way. This guy. I said this literally, my brother. And I was begging them because it was the serious ones. I was like, please, this is my brother Joe. You know, we've been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't. I just couldn't do. I just. And basically, I stood in the middle, like. Like, please, guys. Like, I cannot do it. But they. They said it was over after that day, right? Correct. It was over after that day. But you settled that. Like. Like, I'm like, man, we are on. We in California. Don't start nothing. My homie already. Cause they already, like, you said, they already wanted a piece of me, no matter what. What? Cause so my guy out there, he just. He's just going off. And anyway, I knew Joe. I ain't even hit him, but I ain't know everything he did. But I. Oh, no. He did. I knew it was him that said, yo, this can't happen. And because he had a, you know, a relationship. Super relationship still, my brother. Shout out to that and. Yeah, shout out to. Shout out to Inglewood. Yeah. Inglewood. That's my family. Inglewood family. What's good. That's when Fat Joe the gangster, I was like, this. This nigga here is. Cause he straight up was like, you can't do that to my man. It was like a. Like, One of the movies we used something about Goodfellas. Goodfellas. Something you can't. Hey. Once again, I begged him. I was in their mercy. And I was just like, please, this is my brother. This is my family. I did that one time for Rich Player, my best friend. One time they was about to do it and not saying Rich and them ain't real deal, but he was getting into it with a seven headed monster guy who just kills. He's in jail for too many bodies. And I had to jump in the middle and be like, yo, yo, yo. I can't. It's like, yo, fat boy, get out the way. I was like, oh, no, I can't. This is my family. I can't. I knew what it meant. They real deal. And this other guy's, you know, a Jeffrey Dahmel. And I'm a monster. And I'm sitting there like, yo, listen, please let me get. I said no, shout out to knock him dead end. Knock him dead, y'. All. Eddie Yad up there. But they go, but they go. The man go. Because the first argument I ever had with him, right, he goes the next day to Rich, and they block on Cyprus and says, if Joe got in the middle, that means you're good guys, let's become friends. And they wound up being best friends. My man's still in jail 30 something years, but he went the next day, he took it on himself and said, if Fat Joe threw himself in the middle trying to squash it, these guys gotta be good guys. And it was all over, you know, staring at each other in the club and a couple of girls and you know, these guys, they kill each other over girls. These gangsters, man. A lot of gangsters in jail killing over girls. I'm telling you, I had a guy, this guy was a mania. He's still in jail too. 40 years, right? And he was really dirt. Is the scared straight. No, no, no, because. No, a lot of wars have come over. Women roasted. Yo, but listen, this guy, all I'm gonna say to you is this was a mass murderer. He's still in jail 40 years. He would come to the club and he'd go, he's Puerto Rican. He'd be like, I. And I'd be like, yo, what's up? I. The nandna he's talking about. His. His wife was bad as shit too, but she was fucking dudes. Yeah. Like, she was loose. So you come on. You know Jimbo from the barber shop? Yeah, he was with the net with everybody of his ten guys. Not Jimbo. He didn't know. Yes. With the net. Net. Jimbo won't be around in two more days. Like he would come all. One time I argued with the. Was like, I said, no, I don't want to hear that shit. You're a liar. She's the most decent girl in the world. She didn't do it. Yes, the Nana and everybody knew what that was. Somebody was disappearing over the ninna. Yeah, no, I know maniacs like that, man. But you know, common, man, you're the beloved of all beloved. Let's keep it peace. Hey, I said, you know, I said, what's that? Like spoken sage or something? It was supposed to protect us for that story. It's similar to say it's Palo Santo. It's Palo Santo. And you know, it come from the trees down in Chile. Bring in the good energy. Bring in the good energy. Move. Negative energy. We gotta go to. I used to love her. Okay, okay, right. You knew that was like a lean back. When you finished that bitch, you was like, oh, I knocked this shit out the park. Like, yeah, what was making. I used to love it. Where did that come from? What was the inception of that idea? Because to this day, I mean, we did it in so many big. L did. The Ebonics did this. Everybody did some version of it. But that was like the epitome, man. Whenever God dropped that idea into my spirit, bro, I was geek. I just know. No idea Made this dope beat. He was dope. He accepted him. George Vincent, shout out to no id, bro. He killed that. Yo, I was sitting at home, My homies had just left the crib and I was staying with my guy Rahsaan. We had. We had a crib together, like an apartment. And man, I was sitting up, it was 2 in the morning. I just had that beat playing. I was like, man, what if I made hip hop a woman? And then I just started writing it used. It used to take me. I don't know how for y' all are, but sometimes I'll be taking. I'll be taking a while to write it. Back in the days, it took a while. Yeah. Back in the day, it used to be like, back in the days you be busting your bubble brain. Like, what the brain to come up with some shit, yo. So that one started coming to me. And then I started, you know, just understanding the metaphor. Not understanding, but just getting into the metaphor of it and taking it through the whole ride. And I was like, I ain't gonna front. I was. I did feel like, damn, this is Something halfway through, you was like, yo, this is some shit, right? Like, as that shit start going, you like, yo, yo, man. I was like, yo. And then by the time I got to the third verse, it was like, like, summing it up. And got to who I'm talking about y' all is hip hop. I was like, man, I knew that it could have something, it could hit somebody. Cause when I was in that studio, landed my guy Rashan was. He was. He was like. I could see him through the booth. I was sitting there rapping. And, you know, we young, so he like, you gonna figure out what girl you. Yeah. He like, yo, he like, why you doing this love song? He wanna. You know, he like doing a love song like this. As soon as I said, well, I'm talking about y' all is hip hop. And grabbed his head like, oh, like, what? Like, you want to know what's crazy is when you came in here, I know how much you love Illmatic. And so we throwing some Illmatic and similar. I used to love her to Illmatic is. Over the years, every time I heard I used to love her, I picked up something new and I learned something new. And I was just like, yo, this shit gets better. And, you know, like, it don't matter. You can still, like, right now, we all could have rapped and didn't know the word. The right word, right? Caught a body halfway, Houston. What the fuck he meant with Caught a body halfway, Houston. Head for Houston. Head for Houston. Called a body head. Oh, call the body. Head for Houston. Yeah, Catch a body. You know, it's like, so you could keep. Like, that's how the lover was for me. Like, every time I heard it, I would hear something new and something new and be like, oh, shit, that shit crazy. Yo, what hit me, too, was like, man, that was the first time I really started. Like, I remember, you know, back in those days, you would have, like, people give you a quote for your album. Biggie gave me a quote. And, like, I was like, damn, I'm actually getting respect from, you know, more and more people. But then that movie Brown Sugar came out, and Brown Sugar was based on I used to love her. And, wow, I didn't do that. Yeah, it was based on I used to love her. That writer shout out to him, Michael Elliott, he had come to me to write something, like, write some movie stuff with him. But I was like, a little bit, you know, I ain't know how to do that. So I was just. We just moving, you know, I'm just so he Ended up writing Brown Sugar. Boom. Then me and Erykah. Me and Erykah Badu did a song for Brown Sugar, which was Love of My Life, based on I Used to love her, Love of My love, My friend. So I was like. It was. It was one of those things that kept. Kept evolving in a way, like that song. And it was a seed that. Yeah, seed. The seed so. Keeps growing. And you know what's crazy is being that you're saying that I'm just. You know, I was supposed to be in the movie Shaft. I was supposed to be peoples. What. You know, that act is a big, big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yo, rest in peace. John Singleton. He was coming to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe every Friday trying to convince me to be in Shaft. But we was too much on that party. Like a rock star. We was like, we ain't give a fuck. We young, rich rap niggas, Big pun, double platinum. We don't give a fuck. He's. John Singleton was in the trenches. He was with me in Washington Heights in fucking bummy apartment house. He had no business being there. Like, yo, Joe, I got this role. You could be people's. Cause you know what's my man? Famous actor. He played people that he. You see how he was speaking with a Spanish. Yeah, he ain't Spanish. No, no, no, no. He from that. Joe was supposed to be people, bro. You turn that road down. Dumb like a dumb. Every time I watch that movie, I was supposed to be in Glory. All right, all right. What's something that happened to you that you had an opportunity and you was like that. I'mma stay in D block with y'. All. This. I ain't doing that. But. But now when you look back, you like, damn, I should have did that. Yeah. Have you had one of them? You got some of those episodes? What you gotta give us? Power. The last episode of Power. The last season of Raising Canaan. I had to take my wife to the Usher show. I saw you at that back. I couldn't get a private. It wasn't meant to be. It was one of them be sad or be happy. You know how big that Raising Kalin was. Shout out to another one. I saw you at the Usher show that time. Yeah? Yeah. Oh, you was there, too? Yeah, yeah. In Vegas. Yeah. You know, you go to Usher, man, He forced you to do the greatest hits. Yeah, like, I'm over there trying to go. All I want is two free tickets, right? That's it. It turned into. It turned into. Cost you more. I know. Man, my brother fat show the light. Come like this. You on stage shaking. You got another word. Then they throw another one, another one, another. I'm like, shit, is this the fat Mars? Mars is making you do a little concert. DJ Moss. My God, it's an honor. Fast forward. How does it feel to win every goddamn award? And I feel good whenever I see win. Thank you. Because I know what you stand for, what you represent, where you come from. When they. When they let one of us in and you just dominate the way you've been doing makes me feel good, man. I love that because for us, right? So wimp. Like, let me tell you, when I'm up there, I feel like I'm representing us because we all. We all the tribe, man. Like, we know where we've come from. We know what we. We do. We've been through it together. We ain't got to see each other all the time to know. We just. We from. We just the tribe, bro. We love each other. So when I'm out there, man, I ain't gonna front. When I was on that Oscar stage, I felt like I was representing. I was representing God, Black men, brown men, black people, like, hip hop Chicago. It was a lot that. That I felt like, yo, this is. This is what I'm. This is why I'm up here. And my ancestors, I felt all of that. And I'm like, I'm so grateful that you feel that way. Because I'm like, man, when I see y' all do. I came in and said, man, I'm proud of y', all, man. It's like, what y' all doing, man? This is like. It's. It offers so much to people. People who, like, need it. We need it. We need the. We need the fun, we need the joy, we need the wisdom. We need to come in, like, in an authentic way. So to see us. Us like, just, man, that was 93, 92, bro. 93, 93, 92, bro. So to see us, like, finding ways and real ways to actually impact life and culture and be doing great things and taking care of our loved ones and families. And, you know, y'. All. You know, the same way I feel like we all want. No, I'm gonna tell you crazy thing. I wrote my first ever positive song right now. You don't remember this. You know, I'm gangsta Fat Joe. I smack your baby at the Christian. And I'm doing. You know, I'm. I talking all this crazy shit. And I made one positive song and I went to you. I seek The Kingdom Never forget. And I played it for you. I felt like, yo Kama's gonna love this shit. It's a positive song. And I played it for you. He was like, that's dope, Joe. What the rest of the album sound like? Like you wanted that war shit from fast. So I came with the Beast Died, Farrakhan, formed A Million Man. And he was like, yo, Joe, what's up with the rest of the album? I was like, yeah, yeah, the album is hard. But I came to you with the positive joint. Like, I thought Comet was gonna be like, yes. No, he ain't want that. Nah, he want that, Joe. Crack fat gangster. No, no. And it. But nah, but you know, it was. At the end of the day, you was showing the evolution. But sometimes it's like, you know, we all climb and go our way. We grow in our own ways when it's time. I mean, for me, it's like positivity ain't gotta be like out preachy. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that in movies. I don't like it in music. I don't like it in church. I don't like me either. I don't like the judgment. I don't like it self righteous. I don't like. Man, I'm conscious now, you know, like you was doing the goodness out there. To be honest, even, you know, like, you know what I'm saying? Like bringing, bringing people on. That in itself. But I feel like, you know, I kind of remember when you played that joy. But I want to hear that joke. But you know what happens? You know somebody like KRS1 who had the machine gun in the COVID Yeah. And we think it's coming. He's airplane overseas, people dying. Politics is lying. I'm trying not to escape. That shit was like a fucking. A rose blooming. I remember I hopped the train, I had the walkman and I played that shit. And then he was like, airplanes flying overseas, people dying, politicians lying. I'm trying. And I was like. It was like a rose. I was like, yo, what the fuck is this? Yo, man, KRS. KRS1. And hip hop in itself at that time too, man. Taught me so much about who I am as a person. It's stuff I ain't know. Like, I ain't know like what even what. What he was just talking about. Or just certain things about Africa that I thought. Benjamin Banneke. Why isn't that slurring, y'? All? Why is that? Why is that? He was going. He was going in there even to be able to break down the. The books of the Bible. He was. Abraham was the father of Isaac. Isaac was the father of Jacob. Jacob had 12 sons, for real. And these were the children of Israel. I'm like, man, to get us to be singing that and rapping that, like, man, that dude just elevated us all, man. Hip hop did at that time. The teacher, teacher, man, the teacher. And he made it sound good, but that's what I'm talking about. Like, he made that joint sound good. Like, I had to get to that. I had. It was a point where in my music and career where I felt like I was getting stuff and I wanted to spread the word, but. But it was too self righteous. It was too like, you know, you gotta find a balance. Life is a balance. So it's like, you know, me growing up, he was my hero, my idol. He still is. But KRS1 was God in the Bronx, right? And then Fat Joe, yes. Became the new, like, you know, the Dom. We going double platinum. We on fire. I used to walk the streets with KRS1 and Everybody Teach, teacher look at me like, you know, we had attitudes. And I asked him one day, I said, yo. I said, yo, Chris, how come everybody comes up to you smiling with the teacher teacher and then look at you? He said, that's easy. I rap about positivity and unity. You rap around gangster shit. They gonna make you prove you a gangster. Every time out here, me, they just smile. I pose no threat. I was like, wow, that shit was so deep for me at the time, where it was like, yo, he's like, yo, they look at me like, this is the unified. They look at you like, yo, you still Fat Joe the gangsta out here. So, dude, that's why I went right back to the studio and killed some more people. That's a fact. More babies hit than Christian. But that's when for me, I knew, like, okay, man, I wasn't selling a lot of records, Joe. You know, I remember walking into Relativity Records and it was. I tell people this story. It was Bone Thugs at Harmony. 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My show Dodger Blue Dream captures all the drama, tension and ecstasy of the the best World Series win of all time in our new episode, Game seven, no way out. Now listen to Dodger Blue dream on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You goto man getting a lot of pushback, you know what I mean? Why? Thought it was a beautiful thing being that he just coming off the biggest world tour bringing almost damn near a billion dollars to the island of Puerto Rico. And now HOV is giving you a chance to check him out at the super bowl. And now he's getting now a bunch of hoopla. I don't understand it. I don't. It's damned if you do you, damned if you don't. What's your take on that, my brother? You know, bad boy. Let's be clear about this. He's the number one streaming star in the world. Somebody's listening to this man. Number one streaming star in the world. You could google that shit if you want, fellas. Google it. Fell it. Two time fella. Yeah, he. At least he got a job, man. It's the most streamed album of all time. He's number one in the world. He made me, the whole world go to Puerto Rico to watch him perform. He deserves the spot. The problem with America is so racist that if we're celebrating art, we're celebrating culture. We're doing a halftime performance Somebody gotta perform, whether they black, white, Asian, K pop, whatever you want to name. So at the end of the day, Kendrick Lamar did it last year. Is he big enough? Is he this. The ratings were. Student wolf. Was he big enough? Is he disentrated? Now you got a guy who's Puerto Rican, by the way, ICE cannot arrest Puerto Ricans. We're Americans, duh. So I don't know what the fuck you on your truck with your Confederate flag thinking, yo, we gonna lock up some Latinos. Yeah, they all Puerto Rican. They American citizens. What the fuck are you talking about? And my problem is, why does race have to always, always come into everything that's going. I mean, everything if you perform it. I didn't even see that right when they picked him, I said, all right, Bad Bunny, he the biggest. He gonna rock, right? I'm Latino and I don't know all the words to his song, but I know he's the shit and he's fire. So my thing is, once they throw in the race shit, I'm like, yo, what is this? Who's. I hate people. Black, Latino, white people, whoever, who always gotta bring race into every single thing. I just don't know why. They've been bringing every. Every single thing since I've been born. So everything. Oh, no, no. But they. But now with social media is at an all time high. I don't know how they break this shit down into. It's everything. Everything turns into some racial shit. Bad bunnies coming to entertain you if you're. If. If you're white and you don't know Spanish, throwing your dancer shoes and have a hell of a time because all your friends are going to jump up and dance. He gonna rock that shit like you never seen it. It's going to translate it for you. What, the Apples? Yeah, talk about that. So Apple got this. So Apple presents the halftime. Got the ipods that translate it. Can translate it to English right at time, live time. So why you. I need that. They're making us buy the new phone for this, right? Everybody got an iPhone 15. I don't know if it's me. I'm. I'm. Look, I'm played out. You down. Let me stay. Son, you not speaking when it comes to technology. You under the 15. It comes to technology. I'm played out. Every time they want a new phone, it take me a month to figure out how to take a picture or something like that. Like. Like, stop making these shits, man. Cause every time they make it, it's like a real like the new. You got the 17? Hell, no. I'm gonna be the last one to get it. Because every time they bring up something new, I get it, and I don't know what the fuck going on. How to do Instagram, how to do this, how to do that. I'm confused. You know, my phone, I just got used to it, and my shit. Oh, it's not the 15? No, it's not. I used to have the 15. The little. Everybody had the 15. Yeah, but I really don't want no more upgrades. Nah, man. That shit whack. And when they like a computer, you must upgrade. So Bad Bunny at the super bowl, he earned it. I hate when they try to make a narrative like, oh, they did this on purpose to fight ice. That. That's not true. He earned it. He's the number one streamer. What do you want me to do if next year they bring the K Pop guys? The guys. I don't know how much I would feel about that. But the K Pop guys, because they broke records and all that, you would have to understand that, you know, they the biggest in the game. The problem is that the NFL have always had, like, you know, don't go messing with Cotton Eye Joe. Cotton I. Joe Cotton Eye Joel. Don't go. We say we must have seen Pat Benatar 10 times. Cotton Eye Joe. Cotton Eye Joe. That. You know, I used to think halftime was only for the rolling stones and U2, and I thought it was. They had a lifetime residency with the Super Bowl. I thought I'd never see a black guy at the super bowl halftime. Besides sweeping. Guess what? Ever since they put the black guys, they've been winning Emmys every year. Guess what? The rating's been up. So, you know, you say what you want. You know what I'm saying? And. And it's become a thing. Every time somebody does super bowl the next week, we talking about it. Was it good, was rated, it was, you know, shout out the whole. Shout out Desiree Perez. Shout out to the whole rock nation getting together, pulling this one off. Because Shout out to the rock. I love that Bad Bunny even did it because Bad Bunny said he wasn't going to tour in the United States. So I love the fact that he said, okay, I'm doing it, man. My sister Mary, her bag went up after she killed that halftime. She was headlining Essence Fest the next day. This. This. I watched the bag. I know what the super bowl could do for you, Mary J. Yesterday's price is not today's price. Mary's Shit went dumb after that. Tore this, this, that shit. Her shit went crazy. Wow. You heard that? That's hip hop. Shout out to hip hop. Man, Kendrick is the most viewed. He beat out Michael Jackson and Mike had that spot for 32 years. Shout out to Kendrick for that. Shout out to hip hop. Shout out to Kendrick. Let me tell you what's crazy, right? You know, I always complain about the planes, even though I go across the world. But for a long time, I was the John Madden. The hip hop a. A good. That they ain't a highway. I'm telling you, he never flew. John Madden switched. He never flew, right? Huh? He switched to the train. He had his own train. Well, I took buses, you know, we got their own train. Nigga, let me explain something to you. I never salute the man for that. I didn't know he did all that. I did the bus. I go to New York and Miami so much, I come out on the gas station or the Cracker Barrel and like, hey, Joe. Like, I live down the block. Fayetteville, North Carolina. Like, I done did every highway in America. And somebody was asking me and I thought about it. I said, you know, we took. We did spring break. That changed my life. Recipes. Irv Gotti, Me and Ashanti did spring break after that show where they seen the crack of my ass. The album went up 25,000 a week. Like America couldn't get enough. That's when they discovered Joey Crack. They be on Soap Talk, Saturday Night Live. Yo, you believe this guy? Joey Crack, the crack of his ass shows? Nah. Incredible. But the sales, that's how bargaining. No, it just went platinum after America love a fat guy. I don't know why they love a fat guy. But the point I'm trying to make, man, is we took the bus to Mexico. This is before we knew about Choppo. And I was thinking about. I drove through the whole Mexico to get to Cancun. You gotta drive through the whole Mexico. I drove through. Drove to Cancun. I drove through forests that had elephant crossing. I didn't think it could. Just an elephant. The sign ain't deer, it's elephant, right? I drove through the whole thing, right? Well, on the tour bus, it reminded me. We got stuck up seven times. Stuck up. Do you know who robbed us? Every time the police, the fucking policia pull us over. Middle of Mexico City. You gotta drive through the whole Chihuahua. You drive through Jimenez, Juarez, the whole Mexico, right? So they stopped me seven times. I got stuck up by the police the last time. I just want you to Know I'm not pussy. I don't get stuck up. No, I'm just letting you know, this is very foreign to my DNA, to my spirit, B. They keep pulling us over, yo, $100. They sticking us up like, you know, and then you got to sit there like, you pussy. And just be like, all right, it's the police. Whatever. This last time, we in the middle of nowhere. Some little Mexican dude walks out in the middle of the road. He got, like, the army suit on. Boom. His gun is taller than him. The man got a girl with him. Now. This girl, she looks like a working girl. That's the nicest way to put it. She got the cheap shoes, the shirt. She's a whore, right? She's with him in the middle of nowhere, right? Fuck it. In the middle of a jungle. She got the little guy like this, stops the bus. Yo, they stopping us. We in the middle of the forest. The whore stop you? No, the. But the. The. The cop, whatever. He stops us in the middle. He got this. Guns bigger than him. He's a little. He comes on the bus. While he's coming on the bus, he's telling us, a hundred dollars, right? To pet. We only got stuck up by cops. The girl's sitting there laughing at us in our face, like. Cause he's like, we're pussy. Like, he's really robbing us. 400. She's. Oh, these guys are this and this. My man, after he got off the bus, I ran so fast. Slid on my knees. Slid on my knees. I grabbed that Bible so fast, started praying. God, please, yes. And Job was. And God was. I couldn't take it no more. Like, getting robbed by a little dude like this. With the girl laughing in my face. Yo, I couldn't take that. I had to. There was nowhere else to go but to the Bible, the good book of God. I went up in there, I started reading that, like, every single word, trying to God. Is this the page you want me to read? Is this 234? Yo, that was some of the most craziest shit. And I'm. I'm. Yo, that. That was a tough time. I got one for y', all, okay? I got. I got one. Here, take these. No, no, you gotta take these. These. You gonna need them. You drove to Cancun. Listen. No, we drove to Cancun. That's easy. I'm gonna tell you this one. You're gonna die. There's too many flags, right? So I remember I used to go to Battery Studio. You went to Battery Studio, right? Manhattan had to 20 something street, man. Them inmates, your back up. For real, man. You keep stretching, say that. That back, man. Yeah. You go nowhere. Next. Yo, listen, I love massages. I love massages, right? I love massages. I get massages on the regular. Yeah. Yo, listen. Yo, listen. What? Yo, when I did my little four months, they told me, yo, the guy in cell 24, he's a real masseuse when he's home, and I steal my man, you talking to. Get the out of here with that. The In J. You can't. I don't give a fuck who you is. Bernie Madoff, can't explain that one. He got a nigga massaging him in the jail. That shit over. But let me tell you something, man. I thought about Battery Studios the other day, and that's where I met Irv Gotti. One time. We both booked the same studio because he was on the other side than me. You know what I mean? They kept telling him, don't be cool with Fat Joe. Don't talk to him. But when we met each other, we realized we like brothers, right? But Battery Studio, I had that shit rented seven days a week. If I wasn't working there. Remy was working there, she wasn't working there. Plum was working there. He wasn't. We just had that shit on lock. And I loved it. One day, I'm in the studio, right? And Tony Sunshine. Don't kill me, bro. I'm in the studio, and Tony Sunshine walks in with Big Pun, right? They walk in the studio. Yo, Krills, what's up? This, this, that, and talk. And Pun keeps selling tone. Your tone, your tone. Yo, yo, yo, show him the apple. Show him the apple. This, this, this. You know, these guys were like, crazy, right? So the engineer is a little white boy, right? He's sitting there. They go and they tell him to sit straight. So I don't know what. I'm not in on this, right? So they told me, yo, sit up. Don't worry about it. Pun got this. You're going to be great. This. So the guy sweating bullets. He's sitting there, he's scared to death. Tone puts an apple on his head. Head. Sit straight, bro. Don't move. If you sit straight, you good. This, this. This hump pulls out a gun. True story. Pump pulls out the hammer, right? Yo, sit there. This, this. The kid is sweating bullets. Like this. I'm sweating, but I'm like, yo, Pun, chill. Like, I'm telling dudes like, yo, yo, yo, yo, stop playing this. This. That. Pun shoots the Gun. So, Pun shoot the app? No, the apple falls down. The guy dives under the fucking thing. I start screaming. Cause you gotta understand, they call me the Funk Killer. Yo, Pun, what the fuck? Fuck you, nigga. This, this. I'm losing my mind because of the kit. It was like a prop gun that they use for the movies, but it shoot the shit. Sound like he's shooting the block. The apple fall down. Yo, you know, they never let us in Battery Studio again. I never was able to. I tried. Two years, three years, four years later, they was like, yo, your money not good here. These guys, we lucky. If it was today, that little white boy would have sued us for a billion dollars. Know what I'm saying? But, yo, these shit. These guys were too much, man. Big problem with his. He shot the apple with a blank. Yeah, but he never shot it. It just sounded like a real gun. There's no bullet come out of that. That. You know what I'm saying? Yo, man, this poor kid dove under that dashboard. That. That. He dove under that. I looked at him, I said, you know, some guys, I say it all the time. Some guys, you can't. Like, you guys are lucky. This guy's a leader and he's calm. He thinks he wants y' all to not go to jail. He this, if Tony Sunshine was the leader, we all be in jail for 30,000 years. Like, Tony, you get full with that baby, facing that R B. I'm sitting in the Mandarin Oriental one day, and the food coming, it's cold. He smacks the cheek off the guy, the delivery man. They threw me out of the Mandarin Oriental because, yo, the food is cold, the nuggets is cold. This is. I'm like, your tone. Smack the out of here. They never let me get back in there for, like 10 years. I went back two years, five years. Yo, they was like, Nah, Mr. Carter. J and I used to live in there. Now, Mr. Carter, ten years later, Miami. The low one in Miami. Oh, I love that spot. I come up in there like, yeah, they threw me out of there for like 10 years. They kept like, nah, you can't come back finally. They must have changed the manager. They got me off the list. Now I could go back, but, yo, this Tone Sunshine got me in a bunch of trouble, man. And then Mark Sanchez, he caught something. Mark Chance. Yeah, he caught that catch up legend, Mark Sanchez. What he caught. He caught that ketchup legend. See, young boys don't be sleeping on them old dudes. His vice versa. I learned my lesson one time. I fronted on these young boys. They was about 60 pounds. And they pulled out a gun so big we got the running. They was blaming the whole like. I mean like you should have known. You just all right, this kid 60 pound flat. He talking mad shit. Big diesel dudes here, they gave him the beats. He pulled out the yalla and let that thing ring. So legend. So he's starting with you. Because it's same thing. I'm talking about legend, God forbid. Like I'm telling you. Legend, right? What I'm saying is we should have known the kid is 60 pounds. How you gonna start with a bunch of cock diesel guys coming in? You should have knew what he wanted to do. This old man. 69, Mark Sanchez, Cock diesel football player. Kept fucking with the man. He fucked with the man. Did he put hands? Yes. The man said he feared for his life. That was deserved. Ketchup. So the man gave him all pepper straights. First try to calm him down. And Mark, I don't know. Mark Sanchez was just drunk, high out of his mind. He want to start with this old man. The old man tried to pepper spray and back him up. He kept coming. He said, at that point, I thought this guy was hot, man. He did something. It's a man, 70 years old. He fucked that old man up. He's 70. So how he got Hulk look either? Not an old man. The old man had that Joey cupcake. He. He gave him that. Yeah, he in it. He in the tube to Mike quick. He in the tube. The micro. The old man said. Ha ha. You know how you got that thing? Yeah. I think you are honorary Puerto Rican. You got that? I don't bring the ketchup out because I know I give him the ketchup. So. No, sometimes it's it. Sometimes if you know, you might get. There's situations we might could get out with without the ketchup. If you got the ketchup on you and I tell anybody, anybody who could look, he got that. He got Mark Sanchez the fuck up off him. 69 year old man gave him that ketchup. Legend like that ketchup will save your life. It don't look like that from the picture. Ten guys beat you up. This guy's got. This guy's 70. Damn. And he got arrested. No, no. Mark Sanchez got him. No, bro, you 30 years old beating up a 70 year old. I don't know how to explain that. Get hawked and arrested though, that ain't. That don't go with each other. Yeah, he in there, he handcuffed the thing, he. He bleeding out. I saw some strong 60 year olds. I ain't never see a strong 70 year old. Like 70 year old, the man that got every right to give you ketchup, you know, and I like Mark Sanchez, he's a good dude. He had a bad night. He probably fought with the wife. He probably went around the world two, three weeks in a row, came home and still got cursed out. When he sat in the couch, no food, done, then went and got. He went outside and tried to with the old man. The old man gave him ketchup. Legendary. Tell him. Tell your story walking. Anybody could pull that trigger. Anybody could pull that ketchup out of getting, give you the inner tube and release that air quick. Well, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking. Kiss, baby. Don't get ketchup from a man that's 76. Don't get. Yo, listen, I mean, I've been seeing a lot of old dudes talking like this. Social media, I've been seeing Atlanta old dudes, hood dudes talking wow on there like. Like they don't realize they 60, 70 or something. Like, I be seeing them twice. Crazy. At what point like, like me. I'll tell you the truth, Fat Joe. I tell you all the gangster stories. When I was younger, I fought everybody. This is that right now, my crew gonna dance on you. On my security gonna shoot your face. I'm being honest with you. There's no fair ones. There's no one on ones in the face. No, no. Shoot your face, Scarface. He shoot your face. He shoots your face. What you think the guy look like? Born supremacy, Father for more the man gonna take. I'm telling y', all, I don't have a problem with it. It's legal. You want to with me. You got a hammer, you got whatever you got. He's shooting your face off. My guys, they're gonna dance on you, Fat Joe. The days of one on one somewhere, it's over. Okay? So I don't know what these old dudes are doing. Podcast might want to scrap with you, though. So you ain't gonna come back out now? They gonna get pounded out every time. They're gonna get. Not by me. This is not. It's a level. You know who taught me that One time, I think I want to say J Prince told me that one time. I seen him somewhere in la, we was chilling Beverly Hills. And I was like, yeah, yo, Jay, you look young. This, this, that. And I was like, you know me. I. I Was telling him about Sue. He was like, like, you're not supposed to be in that no more. You what you think you got the guys for? You're older now, Joe. You're not supposed to be. No, the guys is supposed to like, you know what I'm saying? So if you want to invite me to a one on one, you very confused. I don't have a problem with sending. Like, I don't have a problem. Yeah, I mean, what you supposed to do? My days is over, man. And even when I did have one on ones, it was actually guys I liked that I had no choice. And I was like, you know what? The privilege giving them the one on one. Yeah. Because the guy's a killer. We the infamous. So I'm like, yo, all right, we could fight one on one and get it over with and keep it moving. If I actually liked him or he was somehow a member, right? But. But a stranger. One on one. Never in my life, man. We beat up this guy. I told you that story about the boxer that we. I hit him with the bottle on his head. I told you that story. I'm not playing. Let me tell you something. My brother was dead nice with his hands. My brother, money man, Angel Cartagena for everybody in forest project. Dead nice. Every time he fought the whole project to come out, he fight. One day, I heard a rumor he was off the dust. Dude knocked him out. So they telling me, yo, Joe, such and such, knock your brother out. This and this and that. Now my brother is my biggest idol. Month later, I see the guy they talking about. I go wake my brother up. That's why I don't. I don't wake nobody up out of their sleep. If you got beef, don't wake nobody up out of their sleep. Because they chilling. You waking them up for a problem. They sleeping, chilling in the house. They safe around. You make it home, you safe. I wake up my brother, yo, bro, that guy, man, he outside. They say he beat you up. This is that my poor brother, man. Such a decent guy. He came out of work, he was sleeping. He didn't want to let his brother down. He throws his sneakers on a sweatsuit. He come out there with me. Yo, I already know, yo. I already filled out it. Yo, Jada. Yo, Jada, I go over there. So now, according to my brother, the guy we talking about snuffed him. He didn't give him the fair one, right? He snuffed my brother. That's how it happened. And my brother was high on angel dust. But my brother Catch him coming out the window, duff him, Boom. The dude fall on the floor. I'm a kid. I'm like 10 years old. My brother help him up and tell him, now, let's shoot the fair one. The guy he's fighting is the Golden Gloves champion. You. Everybody know he dead nice. Now, me, I'd have hit him with a bottle, gave him some ketchup, stomped him out with the crew. That have been the end of the conversation, right? So they get the fighting one on one. He knocked my brother down. This. He. He gave my brother the beats, one on one. But the whole time, I walking with my brother. I'm a little kid, and I'm like, yo, why you give him the fair one? Why you ain't stomp him out while he was on the floor? Jones, why you ain't hit him with a bottle? He was like, nah, that's not. It's not me. That's how I get. No, I'm so. Lisa, I'm hitting you with a rewind. It just. We hitting you with a rewinded 10 over your head. I'm not playing with you, boy. You went to Temple? Tu Went to Temple University. Yeah. What was that? Temple was dope. That was a good. That was a good time, too, because it was. I was. I was at temple right when, like. Like, the roots were taken off. Erica, Jazzy, Fat, Nasties, Common black star. Everybody was there. Everybody was there. I was there for all that. Soulquarians, d', Angelo, like, there was just like, this renaissance. Free shows everywhere, every night. Jazzy, Fat, Nasties, five spot. Like, you know, you would just see real music, place to be ill hip hop all the time, you know, shout out to, like, you know, the Electric Factory somewhere. Joe Scott fell in love with. Just got there, like. Like. And we had. Our basketball team was nice, too. That's when we had, like, Pepe Sanchez, Quincy, Wadley. We played Lamar Odom at uri. We played them like, we made, like, the elite eight, okay? Live on tv. Coaching. It's our motto is Tu. So that didn't really work well for espn. It was like, live on espn. They didn't. They never came back. But we had Coach Cheney. No doubt. We had coach training. Yeah, that was a good year. And I taught high school in Philly for a few years. What was that like? That was dope. That was. That was the best job I ever had. You know, I taught high school in the hood. Explain. Explain that to us. Just for the love of the kids. Yeah, for the love of the kids. For how important it was like, badass kids. There was some being Harlem, yo. There was some badass kids there too, but. Metal detector in the. From first to sixth grade, we had that too. I had. I had two kids with a loaded gun in my class. Like, I. That's a high school. High school. That's how I look. Like I was in high school. I was in my early 20s. They had guns. We had a daycare center. They had babies. Like, you know, kids in the school had babies. Oh, yeah, we had a daycare center. Like, it was. Yeah, a lot of girls were pregnant. It was real shit. It's where we came from. So it was like we were. I was that badass kid. Like, it was. I've been definitely had my life turned in the right direction by great teachers before. And I was trying to do that. Like, it was. It was beautiful work. It was important. I had really great students. I taught like, you know, I turned every class. I was a sub, long term sub at first. And I would have turned everything into African history. And it was beautiful. It just changed. But it's such a lack of that. Right. Because right now I just saw they have a museum right now. One they trying to like erase African American history. Yeah. Basically making it illegal. They just got the gun that killed Emmett Till. The person who found it is also the guy who wrote the book about Emmett Till. And he says there is no mention of Emmett Till in no history book in the whole school system throughout the civil rights era. Nothing like that. So it's so important to teach African American history to the youth. Because we don't know. Like, you know, I argue with these foundationally. Like, you know, sometimes I'm in the car and somebody says something, I'm saying, do you know the traffic stop was created by a person? Yeah. Do you know the plasma was Charles Richard. Do you know none of this shit works if they know that what we created, like the whole hustle of this society and white supremacy. The con doesn't work. If you actually understand the role, the contributions that black folks. And this don't start with slavery. If you learn where Greece actually studied, where Rome actually studied, where they. What they learned in Africa, where institutions and mathematics and all these things came from. It's not just like to feel good. It's the actual history is foundational of all this. Empires rise and fall, you know, I mean, like, we're in one that's gonna fall and I hope we don't. Not while I'm here. Yeah. Yeah. But my kids. I don't fall being able to. Well, every empire falls. Yep. Like, so you know how we feel. Like this is America and can nobody come blow us up? We safe this. That's bullshit. It happened to every empire in the past. Yeah. You know, and. And what's crazy is I just came back on a flight from Dubai with a couple that went to Egypt. There's one place I've never been to that I always want to go to. Yeah, me too. And I was talking to them and they were like, yo, you know King Tut, I find this confusing. They was like, king Tut is still in the tomb right there. You could see him. And I'm like, how could you see King Tut? Didn't he die like 10,000 years ago? Don't. He like disintegrated and all that. But the main thing about it was they were explaining that the pyramids were made so that if there's an earthquake, it sways with the earthquake. You can't blow them buildings. Them buildings won't fall. They've survived everything. And I've seen. They had ac. You know how hot it is in Egypt. The pharaohs and all them. They had ac. They figured out how to make AC all these years ago with a water system and all that. Yeah. These guys were brilliant anomalies. I'm not lying. Google. Oh, my God. He threw a flag on the plane. My house still. My AC don't work sometimes. I only had ac. Always. Air shafts. You know what I'm talking about. Talk to him. Educator. Keeping it shaded, keeping it shaded. I mean, these things are temples connected to the Stark, the constellation. Explained it the right way. Yeah. You made it seem like they got sent you in like we got. They just plugged that in. Jada. 140 degrees outside. Yeah. There's a way for you to make it cool. They got that adapter you guys was. The point is there's been extra extraordinary intelligence with. With Africans, African Americans that they don't teach him. So. Because the story wouldn't work and you teaching the kids that absolutely evidence every chance you get. I mean, I'm teaching. I'm showing them, you know, figures in African history, including Kemet, Black as they are with corn roads that are the leading irrigators. Astronomers, architects, city planners, physicians, surgeons, all these things well before Europe came out of the Dark Ages. And you just watch your students, just like I did when my dad was teaching this to me. Posture change, lifting up, like, asking questions now involved like it includes me. It's the only element of School that includes you. And it's telling you that you already been here. You already had. You didn't come from the mud. You ain't come from slavery. That is the beginning of nothing. That's the end of something. And our confidence. And it's not just for us. We. You think, you know, if. If white kids and everybody else also had to learn that we invented. You can't walk through this country without touching 10 things that are African. Invented, invent. That affects you. Why don't we mention something that come to mind? Just so for the kids that's watching right now. Elevator refrigeration, early cell phone technology. What'd you say? You said traffic lighter. Traffic lights. Lewis Latimer. And the light bulb. The actual work with Edison. When in Lynn with hired to go light all of London. They don't know that. That's right. That's right. Charles Drew did a Life of Medicine cruise on Edison. What I'm saying to you is, and I was thinking the other day, I said, man, you know, Tupac and Biggie were young kids. Yeah, right. And 26 and whatever. 25. Yeah. But whatever came to their mind. Like, Tupac was talking about real shit that happens right now and Big too. And so back in that day. Right. Cause I was trying to think, like, other than his family being Black Panthers and stuff like that, I was like, trying to think of him and Biggie. They was talking about issues that was happening at the time. And then I thought about. I said, well, you know, we was coming right off of KRS1, Public Enemy, Queen Latifah, that whole poor righteousness, all that conscious movement. So they were more like the lyricists, but they were including consciousness in the music. I see a lack of that. Unless, I don't know, with the youth today. Like, I see a lack of that. You know, at least we caught that in our era. Talking about, like, when he made a song, like why, but why comes from. You know, he learned of that era from people in front of them. And so it's very important that we teach our history. Why do you think. Why do you think that? Do you think we can get that. That level of musicality back? That level of songwriting where it's about just love and real shit in our community from that. That entire era, I would say we have to go the way you went about teaching your class. Like when. When we're amongst each other and you make it sound interesting. Interesting. And they want to learn. Then the posture change. Yeah. Then the music would change. Right. So lead them by example. Maybe a couple OGs need to do something. Yeah. Just to see that it is cool. That there is something. I also believe that's in. In our culture. That's how you start to. Yeah. Spread somebody who's got a lean. Yeah. Yeah. What I believe is cool is I don't want. You can't be about money. Okay. Because the world, the way hip hop is up is. It just. It went from an art form that was created by poor people in the Bronx. Don't, don't. Hey, I'm from the Bronx, baby. We invented this shit. We wanna have these couches in this motherfucker without the Bronx. It wasn't for the Bronx. This rap shit never don't do that. But he know I try to pluck it every time. But the truth is it came from an art form where these people, unfortunately, our pioneers who started this, they never got their money or their just due. No. Because they did it out of love. And if they would do it 10 times again, 100 times again, they would go in there and party for free again. And so this conscious movement of this time right now can't be currency based. Because now people is all thinking about, let me get one hit and I'm gonna make my money. It's a bag, it's a lick. They're not preserving the culture. They're not so much about teaching the youth or whatever. So it gotta be a group of people. A group of people. A collective decision. And you can make money making good music. Music makes good money. But you got to be inventive in creating the national ball. Yeah. To fund that. It might be our job. Or find it and have a job. We're going to donate platform. We make a lot of money. Yeah. Let's donate some money towards those guys who's trying to give the positive message and ain't making no money. It's not even about the money. Like you said, you have to show them firsthand that is cool. And then it starts. Well, I think. What about it? Also we have to remember and make it un. Anti blackness has got to be uncool. This. Like there's how many niggas you can destroy us just killing each other and eviscerating each other. And I think it was a young, brilliant brother. You know, Vince Staples, he said in an interview it was good to hear from a young. A young artist's mouth. Like the MCs used to rap about having a sling crack. Right. Having to be alchemist and create something out of nothing and having a push dope. And now it's the drug users. Now it's the drug addicts making music about being addicted to drugs and using drugs. And that's the shift because we're all listening, we're absorbing it. Those high school kids are rapping it. We memorize it. You can't memorize your times tables or the history, but you know, but you know the song. They had a kid out of Philly. Brilliant. Yeah, that's what it was. All he rapped about was positive. Really positive. Beautiful brother. Yeah, just gave him two blocks in Philly. Yeah, Two street blocks. Yeah, yeah. You know, but that would, that, that right there touched me because this kid, he was doing that. Yeah, he was one of the few doing the conscious movement. It wasn't enough though. It wasn't enough behind him. He was alone. He was the under. You know, it's more of the negativity than him. He was the outcast men in it. Time for a sofa upgrade. 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And even back in those days, he made sure I got my bread, even if it was a little bit, because they didn't have to do that shit. He was one of those guys, like, I don't know, hats off to, you know, to Reef man. Straight up, let me explain. I, I, I don't even want to go there because I don't want to turn this interview into a Cap interview, right? But thank you. What I can say go. Let me tell you something, Rob Reef Tulo changed my life. You know what I'm saying? He, he heard, you know what I'm saying? I was working with Biggie on a project, and he came and divide and conquer. He said, yo, you doing this work with Biggie? I said, yeah, I only had two albums before that. I had no money, no nothing. Flo Jo, none of that shit. Made money, sold records, this, this and that. He was like, yo, I want to give you your own label. He took me to Atlantic. And because I was gonna put out a project with Biggie, it's the only reason I never sold. I didn't deserve my own record label. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You had records with Biggie? Yes. Where you at? Under a rock. I'm trying to tell you, they never came. That's the inception. That's the exception of Cap Joe, okay? Because I told people I was doing a. Man, I don't. Where are these records? Listen, I don't have it. No, no, no, no. How come? This know I'm too real. He know I ain't gonna lie. Never me and Biggie was cutting records. He want to be the Black Dawn. I'm the Spanish Dawn. Some people call it Cap. Whatever. This is crazy. But Rob Tulo, as the A R of Atlantic, heard that I was doing this project and stepped to me and was like, yo, you doing? And I'm like, yeah. And he was like, yo, yo, I want to give you your own record label. I didn't even deserve the record label at the time. All the million dollars. I might have had two grand in my fucking bank account. You had Pun already, right? No, not yet. This was tss. This is Terror Squad Records, right? Yeah, but this is the beginning. This is before, okay? Or nothing like that. It was just me. I only had two albums out. Hustling is the key to success of Flo Joe. So Rob came and gave me millions. My own record label. And that's why they gave me my record Label because he was like, if Biggie with this guy, Fat Joe's on the ass shot you with Lo and all them, that was out already. Let's grab him, right? Yeah, that was out. So he was like, no, the momentum, the projection was there. It just wasn't there. You know how we all say, if Big l wouldn't have died, he would have been the biggest? So I was, like, projected to win, but I wasn't there yet. And Rob took the chance with me and did that same thing with Scott Storch. When he introduced me to Scott Storch. And he was just so talented. And I was just like, yo. And I'm the first to go, yo, Scott Storch on a hit record. I just used that tag on the song. He just played some keys on the song I just dropped with Az Chike and Baby Tron and I, homie Spang nitty. Yeah, you heard the Yo, Scott Storch, what's up? I put that on. After that, he had cheese lines outside his thing. But let me tell you who was crazy about you. Producers, man. Yo, Jada, it's the truth. Scott's too good. After I shouted out, Scott Storch, I'm going to the studio. It's Method Man, Red man. This one, that was cheese lines of rappers. Whoever's your number one rapper is up. Jada, was you on the line? Yes, he was. He was. Yours was over Scotty's. Yo, what up, nephew? I see you over here. Yo, let me tell you something. Give Fat Joe credit. But I said. I said a lot of trends in this game. I've seen Scott's story. You know we have it, boy. And now good miss here. Scott Storch is a whole nother human. But let me tell you something, something. It's a lot of Scott Storch stories. Listen. So I go to Scott Storch. Come on. See, yo, that man is Leonardo DiCaprio of the Music game. When he tells his story, he got stories. Oh, my God. He lives a life. He lived a life. Did you guys have No. A super life. We know. Do you guys ever, like, make a pack? So you come see Jada and it's like, all right, I hear this for Jada, but you keep the other pack for Jay Z. I used to hate these producers. They come in the studio to bring us beats. They be playing some shit. They be like, oh, this is for hov h to this. Oh, I'm over there trying to make a fucking hit. I got a fucking wrench around my brain trying to crack open to something. We went through a lot of that on Bad Boy with Big. You know, to play the beat, to say, nah, that's for Big. Why the. Did you play it for me? If you remember Wild, all the that were coming the with, they'd be like, oh, I can't really give you that. That's the red man. And he'll be like, yo, my man. Like, what the. What you giving me? I'm chopped liver. We used to come to the studio. You remember those days, like in Battery, when y' all would have, like, album mode, and we used to come and line up. It would be Buck, Wild, Rockweiler, whoever come with the dash and have to play beats. Yeah, but y' all used to have the shenanig. Like, I remember one time it was you and Pun at the studio, and I came in the studio to play beats, and it was. It was. It was a hammer on the table, allegedly. You know what I'm saying? All right, so I walked in, and Plum was sitting all the way on the back on the couch against the wall, right? That's what he used to say. And he put a. He went and grabbed the apple. He put an apple on his head. Let's see if you lie. He put an apple on his head. Holy. Put an apple on his face. Hold on. Take the. He put out. Listen, I ain't spoke to Joe in a minute. It. He put an apple on his head. He said, yo, Joe. Joe. Joe said right now, right here. He said, joe, go, go. Go ahead. Go ahead. Joe said, nah, we can't do that, right? He said, go, go, go. Joe took the hammer, bang, and put. Went like this. They made the. Made the fucking. It was. It was an air gun, like, with. So, yeah, he made it. He made the apple move. I tell that story recently about. He did that with Tony Sunshine today. You know, they never put us in Battery Studios again, Tone. Sunshine put the apple on some young. This little white engine. That Pun did the same, shot it then never let me ramp at studio again in my life. It was my favorite studio. Those sessions were crazy. Those sessions were crazy, man. Cap that one. He gets one taken back. He gets one from the Cap. Story checks out. He gets his time out, and he gets another challenge. Those were crazy days, man. But. Yeah, I mean, you know, but they were the fun days, for sure. See, I thought you was a member of mob Dick be. I mean, shitty. You can say that. Well, the way I looked at it. Yeah, right, because you got havoc, you know, calling that the number one album of all time produced straight up. I see. I see lists all the time where Infamous. Yes, Infamous is. And so you come afterwards and team up with Prodigy. So you putting in work with Cameron. Murder. Murder. Music is when I got down. Who come in when he already has a doctor driver. Great. So I thought you was the third member of Mark Deep. I swear to God. Listen, I tell hav all the time. I thank him, and that's a real testament to confidence. He's havoc. He made a whole sound, son. So when I got to. To New York, I was around, soaking up all that, figuring out how to make the drums a certain way. Like have is a mastermind genius. We know this. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, the connection was through Cyprus. So it's funny how it worked out. You know, Muggs was working with the Mob. I came to New York, he linked me with them, and they just saw me in New York, like, just out here dolo still repping Soul Assassins. But they were like, come with us. You know, and then I just. I was out here kind of by myself. So them putting me into the mix, you know how that made me feel? Like, think of that Mob Deep, Murder Music is. They already did Hell on earth. Infamous. That's what I'm trying. I was a fan when I met him. You know what I'm saying? So the fact they let. And you know how it is. It was gradual, too, because they're not the type to just be like, come on and you with us. It took a while until I was like, rick Kwan's wedding. And you know how you go to a wedding? They give you them shuttle bus sitting next to RZA and his wife. RZA turns around is like, no, I used to let you, you know, work with Ray, yo. I'm like, you know, some crews, they wouldn't even let you work with each other. They be like, yo. He's like, like, yo, you know, I'm glad we at the wedding, because, you know, how you feel about that? I mean, that's. That, you know, R was a boss. That's like, you call my outfit a little outfit? He kind of like, little. I used to let you wear Binky in the brain. That looking fly right there. But, you know, your brother compliments your outfits, man. You could say something about my outfit, man. It's outfit. See, boy, he won't give you a compliment for nothing. Gosh damn it. Like, compliments all the time. Yo, listen, but where we was at with Cruz, like, even me, right? And not. Please, I don't want to start no type of beef. I worship you guys. I love you guys to death. But I'm a member of Digging in the Crates from the beginning. And I remember when they asked me to do. I shot you, LL's. I shot you with keeping. Of course, some of the members was like, yo, we don't rock with. No, they was the underground. They was underground. They didn't believe it was forbidden for you to do a shingle that was about to blow. They didn't want you. Yeah. With my idol, LL Cool J, I was like, yo, this is my idol. This guy's four time player, James. They was like, strictly underground. There's seven members in Digging in the crate. Let's get to it. Who was it? No, I can't. But what I'm saying to you, what I'm saying is two to three members. I think I know who it was. Was two to three members. No, it wasn't show. I knew it was like, it's two or three members. That was like, yo, we rock with us. It was. And I was just like. I said, look, that was the one time I said, man, I don't. Wasn't. It wasn't Andre the Giant, leave it alone. No, it wasn't. We can narrow it down, but that record was hard. I was born yesterday. No, it was a stepping stone, you know what I'm saying? It was almost like a pop that at French Montana. Like it was a time like, put me on another. Was that a Chris Lighty? Chris Lighty and Chris Lighty and track masters. Yeah, be. Yeah, but Chris, they with me. They with me hard. So they came, they heard my second album. I was working that battery. It was like, yo, you want to jump on this? Ll, but I know about, you know, you working with Prodigy. You know, I know they must have had some internal talks. Like, yo, ah, man, we ain't talking about that either. Made it in. He made this. It was always love. Ab, Always showed me love. But we kind of, you know, steel sharp and still like, shout out, Al. We gotta shout out my man Keg, AKA Rockstar, AKA Tyroli, cuz he put us together. That's right. And yo, you know what's crazy? He doing his thing now. Shout to God. You might have gave him their best record ever. And you know what's crazy? Do you remember? No, no, that's a form. No, it's definitely time. This all right. He had a fan. I don't know if you like one. He gave me still feel you feel me. This is another Connection. That's crazy. Look at this. You kidding me? Remember the beat for Bring It On? Remember to be for Bring It On. Huh? Don't know. Remember the Bring it on beat, right? Bring it on. So there was a Stretch. It was a stretch arm. Threw that beat in the cobra clutch. You talking about. And then. And then Stretch came and told me. Y' all was asking who did the beat beat. Cause I didn't know y' all yet. Shout out to Stretch. If I went up on Stretch. We balled up there. Now what's the real story? This the last time we ever gonna talk about this. Because. Shout out to my brother Rascat. Shout out. I ain't gonna say. Shout out to his son. Rascat's the legend. Adrian Moses. Chill out. I'm talking for me. Can I have my mouth? I didn't want to take my moment. No, no. Let me get my mom cafe. Of course you could try. Now, what I'm saying. So whatever happened? Because all I know you came and played me some beats. I picked that in that. Yeah. And then I gotta. You know what I mean? So when. Because it's really you. But I took the. I took the heat for it, but it was really Al. He didn't tell me what was going on with it. We took the heat. This is the last time we ever gonna talk about this. Because it's all love. So let's. It was just a mix up, man. It was a misunderstanding. I had love for both of y'. All. I still do, you know. Shout out to Rat. I actually just saw Rash last week. His, you know, living legend. His kids are killing it post contra. It was. It was a mix up. It was early in my career, you know what I'm saying? And it was like. It was a. It was a lot of little moving parts and shit that happened. But in the end, I. You know, I wish it didn't go that way. You know what I'm saying? But in the end, the record we made definitely really became something that lasted forever. And shout out to Raz, too. You know what I mean? It was. It was just a mix up back in that time. But, you know, I wish the best for everybody. Boy, everybody's doing great now. Well, you know what? That happened to me. Yo, don't tell me we are ahead of time. What beat did he have first? Damn this. Fuji live with Star Spangled Banner in my face by Salaam Remember me? Right after Flo Jo. And I'm telling you, I wouldn't have did a better job than Fuji. La. But I was in his house in Manhattan. He made Fuji lie in my face for Fat Joe. We used to be number one. He said Lauryn Hill came like two hours later and was like, oh, no, not Fat Joe. This is my shit. And they snatched up that Fuji lie. It was made for me. If you listen to Fuji live, it's the same type of drum, just Flo Jo, same pace, saying everything. She came and threw that shit in the cope clutch and was like, yo, I need this. Let me get that batch. Okay. I just heard recently you said Win or Lose was originally for me and Pete. I never told you, Knob. See, this is what happened, you know, when we were doing Mob albums. Yo, could you play Win or Lose right now, James, man, Think about. Imagine that, too. Imagine this. We were finishing the Mob album. And, like, when we were doing the album, we would go to the studio and work. But sometimes they would come to my crib. Crib. And you record joints. So that was a joint I had in my crib in the computer. So album was done, and I was like. I went secretly. I hadn't told you, but I was, like, hoping they would forget because I wanted to put SP&KISS on it. And then P came to my crib, like, a week before they were finishing the album. Was like, yo, remember that was that one joint we had in the computer? And I was like, oh, yeah. But, you know. You know, I'm saying, I always thought, what would that have been like, man? Because all they wanted do to imagine, you know what I'm saying? You know, here in George J. We don't let nobody finish their answers. I'm glad he said. I'm glad. That was one of the best things you ever said. Y. Thank you, brother. They need a clarity on that, man. Yeah, I need to do a clip of, like. You know, what happens is, I just be like. The ideas come up while I'm hearing them. Like, oh, I got a benefit. I feel it. I got to work on that. Put it up. Cranky cracker, man. Oh, you would have went crazy, right? Imagine that, yo. You would have went crazy. I had the right idea. Whoa. Yes. Yes. Another day, another dollar it's about getting money Give me a holler My nose running I've been out in the cold hustle for so long My hands numb but bet I feel that paper hit my palm it's like, oh, he song Time to go shopping for cars not fashion I wish be the ball My clothes be the same that we had on looking cute say that for the bro it's the ajbo, see? Dump and reload. Knock knock. Instead I'm crashing through the peephole so charges paid, lawyers. So we beat those, get locked in them slutting ladies we the only you know that they pos. They push our fouls to the top. You still on parole. We got money to roll. No time for paying attention. He was different. If I was you, I wouldn't want to hear that. That's. Well, anyway, that's a legendary song. But that. That definitely got the locks written on it would have been crazy. We got music to play. Let's hear something. You do ya play low and nice and sweet, my man. I got the leg right here. You show us the low. Challenge and then you gotta throw. We can make one up though, because it's you and I. We can just go low how we want to go. You gotta take it easy. Or natural. We can't. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We can lean back and go low. Joe, Joe. We can lean back and go low. Give us a low and give us. That would be the matrix. Give us a lean. You know what I'm saying? If you do that, we out of here. We pass the moon. We going. If you show us the love, I'm going show you. When the track comes on, we're going to get up and try together. But I got see it first. You guys. You New Yorkers. So aggressive. Got to show us and then we got to try it, guys. You New Yorkers are so aggressive. Come on, York. Joe said. Joe said to me. Show us the low, New Yorkers. Yes. Show us. Show us the low. Show us the. We've been bamboozled and hoodwinked over here. We can't agree to anything till we see it. Oh, crack. He's right. Let's do a toast. Your new song. Okay. Salut. Salut. Shout out to life, man. Just living life, being good people. Yes, sir. You took a sip, took a pill. Oh, you could get low now. You know he definitely get low. He don't take sips. It's a wrap. One more sip. You low. Let me get another. Let me get. Let me get one more. Let me tell you something. I'm like the scarecrow. I need a little oil in my joints, you know what I'm saying? I can't get low. All right, I'm gonna play this record. So this is. So this is me and diamond platinums. This is my song. Low. The video is out. It's been amazing. All the love everybody's been showing. It's been incredible. And like I say, my boy Diamond's from Tanzania. So I'm gonna get into this record right now. It's turn. Tanzania is the furthest place I've been on Earth. That's a flight. I actually haven't been there yet. Oh, no. It's a flight. I've been there. Crank that shit. Yeah, put it on. Get low, Craig. Hey, yo. Hey. You did it again. Talking your body's calling Telling me to show you how I can make you proud I put it down the right way yet he seems makeup boy won't try make pretty face get behind me, behind me we'll change positions, you'll take a hold on me I'm having visions of you getting down with me and I know and I know you've been watching me all night if you moving right I'mma let you take control Holy. No, right here. Song is fire. I'm. Let's go, let's go. You go. You can go. I can't wait to see that love 5. Let's go. Can't wait to say that on now. We tried though, Cece. We. That was good. That was good. That's fire. That song is fire. No, that song is crazy. Like, so much. Song is fire. That sound like a hit to me. I don't know why. And. And then, you know, with the Joe and Jada effect, it's going up even more with magnifies. Whatever. I need those videos. I need those iPhone videos. I need him. We stopped. Get that footage, man. Let her get up. The footage of y' all going back and me going low. That's crazy. It's too good. Let me tell you something, man. I got one more for you, by the way. Okay, so this next record, Freak of Nature, you went low to the point of where your neck almost hit the floor. Like, I'm like, what the. Come on, man. My fat ass is like, low, low, low, low, low. Like, no, no, no, no. Jo, stop. You did good. You did good. Okay, so this next record right here is. This is me, Molly, and Oxlade. Again. Molly is from Ghana, and Oxlade is from Nigeria. So, again, I'm just in my bag with my people. So this is called Nice and Sweet, and we gonna sauce it up. November 14th is our big day, so I'm about to give it to y' all nice and sweet. Let's go. For me, I definitely feel incredibly empowered to be doing it my way, because literally, the day, you know, I had one of the worst. I call it one of the worst beings in my Career, I would say in one day and the next day, explain that. So I was. I went in with Level up, right? And so trying to make this story short, but basically I was in this. The recording system, the major system, right. I don't like saying the name, but I was in the. Signed to the label. And then there was a rotation of CEOs coming in and out, out. So you all know, like, I know when you have a new system coming in, you have to resell all over again. And that's exhausting. Not only that, they come in with a new mindset, how they want to run favorite people. So you got to convince them. I understood that. Yeah. So you got to do it all over again, right? So that was my second round of having to do that again. I'm like, man, this is crazy because you already start the process, you already know where you want to go, but now I got to sell the next person all over again. So I had the meeting with the. With the gentleman and with a guy, and then, you know, I played him the visual for Level up, played him the record. I'm like, you know, I think this is going to be crazy. Woo, woo, woo. You know, I'm feeling real confident. And he basically was just kind of looking at me like, like, oh, like he didn't see the vision of what I saw. And so I walked out, kind of like depleted because I'm like, I was so hyped up for this meeting and now I'm about to get this record out. And he, yeah, but it's crazy because the power manifestation is real. Literally, a few weeks before this, Russ and I were sitting up late night because I was so frustrated with the system in general. I'm like, man, I can't wait to run my own label one day. I can't wait to do it my way. And we start researching people that own their own labels, women that have their own labels. We just start going this whole rabbit hole. So then fast forward to literally, it's crazy what you say is so important. There's life and death in the tongue. So I always say, when you speak, speak, you have a chance to tell your life story, say great things. So I'm like talking, like, subconsciously speaking life into what I wanted to do. Literally have that meeting, worst meeting in one day, the next day, one of the best days. Because I started Beauty Marks Entertainment, my own label. And my idea was that all the scars you get from the obstacles you face in life are your beauty marks. So I was able to look at life's journey and be like, you know, all that I've gone through that hasn't been so beautiful and felt so ugly and so, like, uncomfortable when I went through it was, they're my beauty marks, right? So me kind of just like encapsulate my journey. But anyways, you know, I asked for my masters back, gave them to me for free. Didn't believe. Like that. Like that, right? Like that. Yeah. So ass. I know who to call. I didn't talk for me. I'm a call Joe, Joe. Let him know, let the hammer out, get on him. No, but I asked for it, gave it to me for free. And then, you know, I'll never look back. And now fast forward to levels. Level up is almost four times platinum to date. Yeah, it's a blessing. And it's a song. It just keeps on leveling up. Right. You know, just recently, it's the song for the Starbucks, you know, commercial for the protein drink they have. And there's just been so many opportunities. It started retrenning all over again on TikTok not too long ago. And. And then, you know, God works. Yeah. God is so. As I say, he's a boss of all bosses. So, like, whatever he said is going to be you. The CeCe album. I seen you cooking up with Tyga. Yeah, I seen some footage of him. All our guests I usually have a song with. I just want to know why you never called. Oh, listen, you say less when I walk out of here, I'm gonna have a record. Ain't no more. No, you don't understand. You don't understand. You know Grammys for him. Gas, listen, because I flagged you down. Wait, I flagged you down at the Knicks game. Knicks game? Yeah, we gotta work. I said, babe, I got. Jada's gonna go. I gotta watch it. Cause, you know, sometimes you go back to the back, but you don't understand. Like, you are like, the best, you know, like, you and Tiger cooking. That shit was dope. I'm like, damn. By the foul. Would have been perfect on this song. Also gotta. Hey, it's too late for a remix. And then to the second part. We're both late for a remix. Nah, nah. Cool. I'm here, baby. Done. Done. Then the second part. I feel there's one thing I don't like, being signed to the majors, that all of the hard work, everything. You show them what you can do. Yeah. How the hell. Every time you want to release a project, it's like a. You got to keep selling it. And Keep doing the audition. Yeah. Who the. Do you not know who we are? Why the fuck they would turn back to Star Search? Why don't you make your own independent it and hire me? I'm scared. Go independent. Hire me for free. You're scared. As your CEO and I'll show you how to do it. Them, man, I'm telling you. Yo, we show them. I know how to do it. No, that's not. I've been green. I've been winning. That's winning. Like I never lose. I've been winning independent non stop. That's why the power of believing in yourself is so important, right? Because especially, especially when you're in those moments because you know, you got. Those are not flags. This is good stuff. Those is good flags. For once a good flag word about me. Yeah know, flags of delusion. You gotta gain on. You gotta gain on the flag. Gain on the play. Yeah, I gotta gain the first all that football. You see. Hold on, we gonna get into that. You know that big bargain detergent jug is 80% water, right? It doesn't clean as well. 80% water. I thought I was getting a better deal because it's so big. If you want a better clean, Tide pods are only 12% water. The rest is pure, concentrated cleaning ingredients. Oh, let me make an announcement at the if you want a real deal, try tide pods. Stop paying for watered down detergents. Pay for clean. 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