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Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And toasting to our sister, Cardi B. Big episode.
Jada
Congratulations.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You got that baby coming. That's right, baby number four.
Jada
That's right.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And so we gonna salute for her because she can't drink right now.
Jada
No doubt.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
We can't pass a spliff, you know, no way. So we just gonna keep it. Joe and Jada. This ain't that.
Jada
That ain't this.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Ms. Crack and Kiss. God damn it. Let's go. A.C. yo, what up, y'?
Cardi B
All?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
This is Joe Crack the Dawn, AKA El MBE.
Jada
This is your boy, Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic today is none other than that. Ladies and gentlemen, people of the live studio audience, those at home watching, please make some noise for our girl.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
The Bronx is on.
Jada
The Bronx is on.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Get that shit right.
Jada
The Bronx is on. Cardi B, AKA Party, AKA the Princess. Welcome to the couch.
Cardi B
Hello.
Jada
It's an honor.
Cardi B
Thank you.
Jada
It's a privilege.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
We just honored to have you here. You know, every time I talk about the Bronx, you know, they get mad at me over here because, you know, I'm just so proud of where we from.
Cardi B
We're so proud of where we from.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Ain't that some shit?
Cardi B
Cause it's so. I love the Bronx.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I mean, you. I know how hard it was for me or for any guy to get up out the Bronx, so I always make reference to you because I'm like, yo, it must have been some shit for Cardi, because we don't know how hard it is to get up out of that, stay up out of that. And it's almost impossible to come up out of the Bronx the way you have.
Jada
You know what I think with the difference at times, like, when you came up, you know what I mean? You're a little bit older than this. When you came up, it was like a. First of all, we didn't have no technology and none of that. And, like, hardships was some shit you didn't want to show. She was able to use coming out of the trenches to her advantage and bloom to a fucking megastar with her braveness of showing, going off for them, shopping, and that made the chicks, that made people gravitate to.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And what was it like growing up in the Bronx? Like, what was your experience?
Cardi B
It's. It's so many experiences. Like, what can I say? You know? Like, it's. It's. It's so many experiences. Like, the good is that I have fun. The good is that I have fun. The bad is seeing things. The bad is feeling broke. You know what I'm saying? The fat. The bad is cleaning your house all day. Taking out the. Taking out the garbage every night, you still gonna have some riches, still gonna have some ISIS and everything. Me and my sister, we see somebody get they had blown off. Like, it could be shit like that. You know what I'm saying?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Regular shit.
Cardi B
Regular shit. When you're a pretty girl, like, it's like, I was a Pretty girl. And I like to have my stomach out and I had all the piercings and shit like that. So it just like. It's like you get tried, you get violated.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You get every trip to the bodega.
Cardi B
Every trip to the bodega is like, I like, if I see this bitch is on, why the fuck I gotta be on? If I see this bitch, I'mma fight this bitch because I'm about to buy plantains for my mom type shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just the. That's what it is in the. In the Bronx and everything. And everybody just move a little faster. Like, bitches was 11 getting and sucking dick and niggas was just doing. And I 11 at 11. And I got little nieces now that be like, damn, you 11. And you so innocent playing Roblox.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Thank God.
Jada
Facts, right? Good Lord.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
God, thank God, thank God. And you could change it up. But, you know, you're the first artist that came on this couch with the dumbest biggest diamonds on your shit. That is some Bronx shit. Yo, yo, Mayor. This some fucking Bronx. Yo. This a fucking Bronx. This. What the fuck we do now?
Cardi B
Let me tell you something.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
We don't take it easy.
Cardi B
No, no, no. For the past couple of months, I've been, like, hiding. I've been putting big shit on. I mean, I've been like, wearing big dresses and shit. Today I was like, imma dress like a fucking rapper. Today. I'm gonna be a bad bitch Today I've been dressing like a fucking nun for like, four or five months. Hiding these motherfuckers. Hiding this motherfucker.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Now listen. Yo, Jada, you got. We got gifts for her. Yeah, come on. It's right behind you, brother. No bones, no patron. Come on, now.
Cardi B
What y' all got for me?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Stone bottle of Patron. Now we got a gift for you.
Jada
Hey, Joe and Jada. Onesies, man.
Cardi B
Let me tell you something. If y' all want to buy me gifts, just buy my album so I can buy Spam.
Jada
That's a fact.
Cardi B
Oh, it's so tiny. Oh, another one.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Oh, we love this.
Cardi B
Another one.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Another.
Cardi B
I was just here a couple of months ago.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know, the babies mess up the clothes faster than anybody.
Cardi B
Oh, shit. I'm doing it again.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You're doing it again. Now, what I did notice, right, is since Cardi B, as long as I've known you in your career, not personally, I feel like you always been in a relationship. Like, you don't like to be single, right?
Cardi B
I don't like to Be single. And I always been. I love a girl like, that's just what I am. I'm like the type of person that is like, if I fuck ya, I might fall in love with y'.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
All.
Cardi B
And you gotta be mine. Ain't no way around it. So I just always been a relationship girl. I always liked family. I always wanted the house, the fences, the everything. Like, that's always been my. One of my goals, so. But now I'm doing things.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
So you super in love right now.
Cardi B
Hell, you think I'll be.
Jada
You think I'd be having baby number four?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You gotta be here in love. Because you know why a lot of people ain't super in love, right?
Cardi B
I won't be like this if I ain't.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know, it's almost weird to me when I'm driving to something and I see a couple staring at each other, really in love, kissing like. I don't see that no more. Like that love. Like that happiness. That love. You know, most people get jealous of that shit when they see that.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And you.
Jada
You know why you don't see that a lot is a lack of privacy. We come from a time when love was love. Now, when somebody's across your. Somebody's at the next dinner table like this, watching you and just shooting it everywhere.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
So shout out Stephon Diggs, right? That's daddy. That's baby daddy. You know what I'm saying? I'm not getting better this.
Jada
I didn't say one.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
The woman came out with the. She's pregnant, man. We wait. Yo, I was what? We was two interviews behind Breaking the News. Gayle King got you, huh? God damn, man. You done came on and said goes to what? I was My mail, on my mail, on my mail, on my mail.
Jada
It had been Artie, outta here. We still outta here. Cause this is technically one of the first. Speaking about Athen making the announcement.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know, this gets me more angry. To be confirmed that you think you're having a baby is the bullshit lawsuit they put you through in court. Like, I don't know if you know.
Jada
And do they?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Like, I was mad as fuck.
Jada
You was a kitty in that court.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I'm watching that shit, mad as fuck. I'm like, yo, how will you tell us? Did she was. Tell us for real what she did to you.
Jada
It's over, right? There's no stats. You can't get in.
Cardi B
It's over. No, for real. It was just a verbal argument. It wasn't nothing but a verbal argument.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
She put the camera in your Ceiling.
Jada
That she like an ATM. Bank of America.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yo, how the fuck in 2025 you sue somebody for a verbal? For harassing the person.
Cardi B
Yes.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And you taking the stand.
Cardi B
She.
Jada
How did it even. Was it even able to make it all the way to court like that?
Cardi B
They have to be. They need to start doing something about this because this is getting like ridiculous. Like frivolous celebrities for anything now. And not only that, but it's like, okay, like, my shit was small, but it's like there's certain people that get sued. Your shit was not small, and their career is ruined.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah, you worked. Go back to that, to what you were saying. But you worked. Imagine you lost 25 million for some shit you ain't doing. Imagine that you just mad, right? And you lose $25 million. So you gotta hire the right lawyers. When they. Somebody sue me, I'm getting number one.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know how much money that shit costing? I gotta get number one. You gotta Google my lawyer and be like, this, number one. But that's costing me.
Cardi B
It's costing money. Like it Costing money. And not only that, but it's like somebody could sue you and say the most absurd lied about you, and it will snatch deals off your table before you even go to court. And even. And even if you settle or even if the lawsuit is thrown away, they'd be like, yeah, still. I still don't want to give you that. Fuck with you because of that accusation. People could accuse you and you could lose everything of that one bullshit that they say about you. And it could be the most ridiculous things that never happened that there's not even evidence on. And it would just. It would just turn to.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
So if you ain't know I was punching the air watching that shit. Even if you was doing good and everything, I was just so mad. I was just like, yo, how this guy got this girl who worked so hard to come out of nothing and she got to sit in the stand. I know you paid them lawyers a whole bunch of money.
Cardi B
A whole bunch of money.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yo, that's a whole bunch.
Cardi B
Hundreds of thousands.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yes.
Cardi B
For.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
For. That's what they do. That's what they do. I remember I got in trouble with the taxes, and I love the lawyer. That's my brother. But the man said, yo, it's 600,000. And I said, and that's the 600,000. He said, oh, and you got to go to jail. No, give it to me now. Because they going to take your shit anyway. You might as well give it to me. That's the realest shit. I walked out of there. I felt like a dolphin with a hole in my head. I'm walking out that bitch like, jizzy, I'm telling my man, you heard this. And this is our guy. He's like, yo, give it to me. Because the boy about to take that shit. And I had to write that shit down right there. I'm glad you came up out of that and keep voicing your opinion about frivolous lawsuits, because America is so unfair. And, you know, I might have paid 20 lawsuits in my life for beating people up. And so every. I'm. Every time. Your mother's a lesbian. Fuck you, you pussy, you. This. Punch him in the face. Next thing you know, you in 161. They like, yo, you could drop the case. 50,000. This after the 20th time, I finally realized, yo, bro, I gotta stop punching dudes in the face. They know I got bread.
Jada
It's costing.
Cardi B
But I didn't even touch.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I know you didn't. That's what I'm saying.
Jada
That's crazy.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
That's what I'm saying. But you came right outside and threw the pen at the nigga like.
Cardi B
Cause, like, don't. Don't try to. Don't try to. Like, it's not even meant to join my business. Don't try to pull me out. Like, it's not even about a being in my business. It's like you trying to, like, call me a hoe or something. I'm like, be for real. Like, you. I know who this person. I know who the nutter than me. Don't even try me like that. And you got your information wrong. Like, you know what the you was doing. And he just didn't. He just did it to my lawyer. My lawyer. My lawyers represent little Nas X. Like, so you do that on purpose. But this is why you get lawsuits. Because it's like, you see a nigga like that get beat the up.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah. That's a fact.
Jada
This is a family show.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah, but, yo, you always with the family. The family.
Cardi B
The frost in the building is my cousin.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yo, that's it.
Cardi B
That's a movie. That's a movie.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
The crazy shit is, yo, you work so hard for your shit, and they trying to take your shit.
Jada
Ain't just off block, man. Let's talk about the new album. What finally made you want to let some music out. I follow you, so I watch the people always saying, when you gonna let out? What? Really? What made you say fog it? Let me just. Let me shoot. Let me let it Go.
Cardi B
Cause I feel like I touch everything. I feel like I got every type of record. I have rap records. I got pop radio records. I got records that's talking about my personal life. I got sexy records. I got all type of records. And it's like I finally feel like there's nothing missing. There's nothing missing. I know it took a long time, but I feel like right now in my life, it is the right time. I feel like I'm going through a whole reset in life.
Jada
The clips have one of the best rollouts we've seen in years. And I think you running neck and neck, but you doing it the other old school, traditional.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
1:20.
Jada
Going on the train. You going.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Are you out and up.
Jada
Daggers on top of that.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
That's some floss.
Jada
What made you take it back to the grassroots of promoting a new album?
Cardi B
That's how I used to promote myself.
Jada
Okay.
Cardi B
Like, when I used to go to a club, hosting and shit, I would do a video of, like, in my apartment smoking or anywhere, like, yo, come see me here. And it's like, shit, come. Come here. I don't know. It's just like, what's entertaining to me, what I like to see, what I like to see down my timeline. So I just put it there. I got my. The way that my label want me to do it, and then I got my own way to do it. I'm not that savvy in the whole TikTok world promotion and the dancing shit. I'm not that.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You're doing pretty good.
Cardi B
I'm an old bitch, so I'm gonna just do it my own way.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I almost thought you was mocking the record label. I thought you was like, oh, y' all ain't got the budget. Watch me to go on the fucking train. Watch me go on 1 25th. Y' all trying to act like, watch how I promote. That's how I took it.
Cardi B
No, no, no, no.
Jada
They gonna put on Jenny Fallon and all that shit she just doing.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
She.
Jada
She going for the trenches.
Cardi B
Yeah. I just like to do things my way. But they've been very supportive. They've been very supportive and. But you know what? It's not really mocking the haters too. But it's like people was just kept saying, like. It's like, oh, like, the label, I don't think they're gonna support her. It's been seven years, and they're like, be fucking for real. They make a lot of money off me, child. They gonna support me. They gonna give me somebody.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
He gets mad at Me, because I go to war with the comments. Like, I see dudes disagreeing.
Cardi B
I can't help it.
Jada
You know, the other day, some brothers.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Sometimes talking shit about you, right? I seen you comment on that shit, Jada. But, you know, I went up on that shit. I said, yo, let me tell you something, man. I said, first of all, man, your shit, fake number two is. I've been dying to ask you, meaning that you got my attention. Where you get that goofy ha?
Cardi B
Like, hit me up. I could argue all day.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
No, I could argue all day. You know, in the Bronx. I'm trying to tell you this. The difference is everywhere but project life. People don't understand. They be like, yo, Joe, you be mad funny on the show. You be talking bad shit. I said, bro, every day this summer, I had to stay up to six in the morning snapping on people.
Cardi B
Yes.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Every day, talking shit, popping shit. This, this, this. This whole life, this is like nothing. So when you disrespect me on a comment, just know I'm coming right back. I'm chopping your shit off.
Cardi B
But that's what I. That's what I'm saying, though. Like, people wouldn't really understand that. Like, it's like, yo, I will look at myself in the mirror and practice my jokes because the next day, I'm gonna flame niggas. You talking about I don't got no ass? I got you the next way. Look at your motherfucking hair that, you bum ass.
Jada
Yo, get him gaudy.
Cardi B
I could come up with jokes and shit so fucking fast. It's not even. I look at you up and down, and I could roast you. But I had to, because it's like niggas was roasting me.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah. Let me tell you something. You know, when I was growing up, the tough guys, they had. They. Everybody had a diddy bop. And I. I used to practice three hours a day. My diddy bop. My shit come like this. But I don't fuck with my legs, Jada. I used to come. That's why my shit probably permanently damaged.
Jada
I was about to say, he fucking with my legs. Probably bopping.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know, my s. Lloyd's in London, insured. London, London. Don't with these.
Jada
You know about his leg? That leg over there?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y' all kiss.
Cardi B
That's always your leg.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Keep it rap. Everything's perfect with my legs.
Jada
Nothing wrong with it. It's just like.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Don't listen.
Jada
It's a superior leg, like the Euro step.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
But let me tell you something, man. This album here, right you waited seven long seven years.
Jada
She said patience. I mean, a lot of money. A lot of money. A lot of leave me alone record label.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I'm saying, other people saying, yo, maybe she's scared. Maybe she's afraid because her first album was so successful. Super. And I'm just so glad that you finally coming out with your album and you happy with the product, seeing a lot of females on your album. And Cash Cobain. So you on some female shit. This whole.
Cardi B
Yeah, I'm the nigga in the album.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You the nigga in the album.
Cardi B
I'm the nigga in the album.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Talking big shit.
Cardi B
All types of shit. Because I'm on my. I am talking shit. And then I'm also on my soft shit. You know, I'm just a girl.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
No, that first album was a classic. Yeah, the first album was a classic. From head to toe to. There was not one miss on that album. This album right here, I know it's gonna be fire with whatever the fuck you do. I know. Especially if you took your time. So we expected big, big, big, big things, man. What do you wanna accomplish by the second album? Like, what you trying to prove now? What do you need to prove? You serious?
Jada
Well, she don't need to prove anything.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
That's what I'm saying. But what do you. You know, we always got our shit. He's top five, dead or alive. He thinks he's the best rapper in the world.
Cardi B
He. He is.
Jada
Oh, shit. Don't say that. Don't say that. Cardi.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Listen, Cardi, don't say that.
Cardi B
Get my nigga.
Jada
Don't say that.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
When you leave, he gonna mad. Hold up before you. You know what happens to this guy? You know what? You know what happens to this guy? You ever seen the Thanksgiving Day Parade? His head gets so big. He's floating right now. You.
Jada
You can't give him it.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Don't know when you out the window. Thanksgiving Day parade. This. Look.
Jada
That's some frog.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
He like this.
Cardi B
I do that too. Like, yeah, you, cute ass out of here.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
No, we got a. We got a little joke underneath our breath, though. We like wheelchair, like, yo, what's up, Fat Joe? What's up? Like. But they can't hear it. So somebody in the street. Somebody in the street. I'm in the car. Yo, Crack, what's up? Yeah, pussy, what's up, yo? And we all start laughing in the car. This shit foul. This shit is foul, man. I'mma be honest with you. This shit foul. But we do it, though. I'mma keep.
Jada
So when you gonna. You gonna keep promoting this shit?
Cardi B
Don't fucking stop. It's just the beginning.
Jada
That's why I love you.
Cardi B
That's why it's just the beginning.
Jada
That's why they. That's why we love.
Cardi B
Yeah. Like, I have a whole tour I gotta do in February after this whole album Run shit I'm getting now. This is the part that I hate, but I gotta fucking do it. I gotta go to the gym. I hate the gym. Gotta go to the gym. I gotta take dance classes.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You mean after the baby?
Cardi B
No, while I'm pregnant. While I'm pregnant.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You going on talk pregnant?
Cardi B
No, no, no, no. By the time I get married, her.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Shit is all scheduled out. Like, I know Cardi B mapped out.
Cardi B
Mapped out.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Cardi B will come back. Six packed up on Tuesday, you know, Monday.
Jada
Baby, come on.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Come on. What the fuck you want me to do? I mean, you want me to lie to you? Tell us the story, Cardi B. The baby's on January 1st 2nd. Six packed up. What's up, bitch? This is a fact.
Jada
This is the schedule. Crack.
Cardi B
This is the schedule. The schedule is all right. Next week. That's when I finished the whole Album Run. Album Run was doing magazine covers, doing interviews, doing music videos, doing all of that. That's done. Now I'm going to the gym. I'm taking dance classes so my body could be nice and loose when I give birth. Now it's straight rehearsal. Straight rehearsal with the dancers. Then in February, I'm ready to fucking bust a move in my. And my thing, ain't no stopping. Like, my label was like, hey, so we don't want to interfere your business. Do you think you want to move the album and move the tour? Live Nation was like, you want to move the tour? Move that one. No, I'm going on tour in February. I'm dropping the album on stage.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Like, I want that motherfucking.
Cardi B
We gonna do this shit. You gonna see it. And they seen it and they feel like, yeah, fuck yeah. Yeah, we're part of this. Fuck yeah. I'm motivated, and they motivated. So I can't even let them down if they're excited. I. I gotta wake my ass up. And ain't no excuse, bitch. Wobble your ass up.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know, I seen you the other day, and I really can relate. You give us your version of it, right?
Jada
O said you could relate to other twerking.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I can relate. I'm not twerking. Your kiss. What the wrong with you, man?
Jada
Before you said, can you relate? I had to make sure it was no flag word.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Ooh. Seeing you back in the hood, you're in front of the store, Bodega, cardi. And everybody came out there and went crazy. And I ain't talking about the twerking. I'm just saying the community. Yeah, right. So I understood when you was like, yo, I used to walk up and down this block. They didn't know who I was. Now I come back, what was that like?
Cardi B
I mean, I always get in trouble around there. Like, those are. I lived in 157 in Broadway for a minute, and then like, I have family in Amsterdam. So it's like, all right, cool. Like, this could have been somewhere like Manhattan or like Harlem or Soho, but it does. It. It feels different when it's like, damn, these are the blocks that used to be like, all right, all right.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
We all sign up a night like Washington ain't nothing. Like Washington night ain't nothing.
Cardi B
You had a store there?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I do 158 from Broadway.
Cardi B
Yeah. You had a. You have. You. Okay. You still had your store.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And I got Dyckman 207.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
So, you know, that's that. You know, my uncle used to own all the number spots out there many, many years ago. So I started out there. The reason why I opened my store there was my father, rest in peace. He got fired from his job. It was like Christmas time. And we went down to 23rd Street. He bought a bunch of toys, like $2,000 worth of toys. Little cop, motorcycles, baseball bats. And for some reason, we went right to 158in Broadway, and we started selling that shit for double. That's where I learned how to hustle.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
So when I figured out I wanted a store, I said, let me not go to where. Let me go to the spot where I learned how to be an entrepreneur. So. And my father, my godfather's also a Dominicano, Jose de Nosa. So I was up and down Washington Ice too much. What I hate is the beet salad.
Cardi B
I hate. I don't like putting. Yo, they used to fucking like.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I damn near got beat up to eat that shit.
Cardi B
I don't like that shit. But I love Washington Heights. And it's like a hood that people don't really. They will talk about. Dyke may know Harlem. They don't really talk about Wash Heights, but it's lit to me.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
It's the city that doesn't sleep.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
They say New York is the city. You get a fucking haircut at 4.
Cardi B
Yeah, the Heights don't sleep.
Jada
You can get an outfit on New Year's after the ball dropped in Washington night.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You get yourself a poppy poodle fit, right? A motherfuckers, how you with some shit right quick? It'd be shiny like a motherfucker.
Cardi B
My dad loved them. Fits to this day, honey.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
He still rocked them.
Cardi B
He still rocked that money, you know.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I said, you know, we gonna do a. A series about my life, you know what I'm saying, growing up. And I said, yo, we cannot have this series without the. Whenever I go see papi, that shit gotta be in the background. I mean, I've been to so many.
Cardi B
Y' all think you want to be Dominican?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
No, I love my godfather's Dominican. I love Dominicans. Anthony Santos. I go back with El Cuco. Tonio Rosario Omega was my man. Yeah, he's still my man.
Cardi B
I love him.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
He'd be like, yo, Golden Door. He always hits me up. But this dude, he would come to my studio every night in Miami. Lamborghini. He was the first. He was the first biggest. I don't want to say definitely Dominican. Almost the biggest reggaeton. I don't know how to explain it to you. He was the first. Selling out Madison Square Garden, all that shit. So he was living in Miami. He would pull up everyday studio for no reason. Lamborghini, Ferrari. Then he showed me a video, and it was a Michael Jackson. I told you that shit. Michael Jackson was flying in the air over a stadium. They got a video. Michael Jackson had a backpack. Throw it up. Throw the flags. See if I'm fucking around. See if I'm fucking around. Just think I'll be capping y'. All. Don't listen to him. Listen. He showed me that. He said, yo, good though. I'm about to fly into the stadium. That's my word.
Jada
He was looking at it, so he could.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
He was looking at Michael Jackson. He said he gonna go to Santo Domingo, fly into the fucking stadium. I was like, yo, this. He's bugged out. But then, you know, they deported him back to Santo Domingo. You ever see that video with him in jail? Like, they put him in jail. That nigga, him walking through the jail. Omega. Oh, my God. It was like the Warriors. This dude was in there. He's the biggest rapper. He's just the biggest Dominican rapper of all time. Walking through the jail. Jewels on. And it is. They got flash. This guy's in jail, buying sneakers.
Jada
Too much in jail over there.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
They had one girl over there, allegedly. You heard that story, right? There was one girl that was still supposed to Be locked up. But she's in the beach every weekend and they got pictures of her in the fucking beach when she's locked up. So think you in Rikers island, they let you out Friday, Saturday, Sunday, she in the beach. The fly shit. Going back. You ever heard of that story?
Cardi B
I. I never heard. I don't know, because I know people that got locked up in Dr. And they're very like, get me the fuck out of here. And it's like, I try to help somebody get out of jail.
Jada
Well, you actually go there and say, let them out. And they gonna let them out.
Cardi B
If you go there, they might make it hard. The person was like, don't even say.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You just try to make some moves.
Cardi B
Just make some moves. And it was kind of damn, you.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Know, jail ain't cool. You know, jail ain't cool, no way. But I. I've seen the Dominican jail. They got flat screens.
Jada
They took my. They buy sneakers, food in an iPad. To the jail.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah, yeah, what's that?
Jada
You can't go to Rikers right now. See, you can bring somebody a plate in the iPad.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know, Crazy.
Cardi B
I've seen people now in Rikers have phones. It wasn't like that, like eight years ago.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
They got phones.
Cardi B
Not they not it's so easy.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
No, no, no. They got. They got phones. Like, everybody got a phone.
Cardi B
It wasn't like that, though.
Jada
I got a boy 4,000 or something.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yo, it wasn't like that boy in the feds.
Jada
How much is it?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You definitely know, you know, 2500. This be watching the fights with lobster. Some rock bottles. All, yo, FaceTime. Yo, I'm with you. He called on my birthday, right? We throw the party every year. He's like, yo, I'm with you, yo. Yo, let me see Mary J. Yo, yo, Y, like, yo, ain't this any. In jail? Yes, yes. Like, I mean, like, it's so.
Jada
Things living in there.
Cardi B
Shit has changed.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Well, you ain't getting no girls in there. That's the biggest problem.
Cardi B
Yeah, that's the biggest problem.
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Cardi B
It drops on Friday.
Jada
This Friday for the people at home. September 19th September 19th.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
A lot of girls make sure she.
Jada
Put in that pain for y' all to cop the album. That pain album will be out already. Album is in stores right now. By the time you see this, the album is out. Make sure you get this.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Who's on your who's on your Mount Rushmore Female MCs.
Cardi B
I grew up listening to people. Don't really people be on the Esme writing Remy. I grew up listening to Remy a lot. I like Trina a lot. I always say that. I listen to Trina a lot. I used to listen to Kai a lot. Lil Kim a lot. I used to listen to all of them.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Who's Kai? Kai Kazee.
Cardi B
That's Kaia.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Neck in my back, my neck, my back.
Cardi B
Yeah, she got some cool records though.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
She did me dirty one. She did us all dirty one time. Like how the fuck the girls. My neck, my back. We hanging out in the hotel hell. And she called the cops on us. Like, yo, the making too much noise. They like, yo, the girl there, my.
Jada
Neck in my back.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
My neck in my back. Like, how the. My neck and my back, you know. She coming at you.
Jada
She in the comments, alleged she could.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Do whatever she want. Allegedly she called the cops on us. Well, we was in Phoenix, Arizona, B Fab. All of us talking shit in the hallway, and they was like, yo, the girl right there, allegedly, you know, she called a cop, said the. My neck, my back. She throw pots on us.
Cardi B
I say that because that be roasting. She could roast. That could roast.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
So you just rose like a.
Cardi B
Like a. Yeah, I'm not fighting.
Jada
I love you. Next.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I want no smoke.
Cardi B
The other you. You love her because she could roast.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Love you, K. I don't want no smoke. I'm definitely not arguing no smoke. I'm not arguing with no female on Instagram and like that. Just not. You know how many times I got beat up by girls? Like, really beat up by girls. All the knocking, like, punching me in my face and up. Not the girls. I'm not hitting the girls, God.
Jada
At all. Never.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah, I had girls punch me out and was running around the projects talking about, yo, Joe, I punched him in his face. This you want me to do. All I could do is run away, you know? So, K, I don't want no smoke with you.
Cardi B
Did you deserve it?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Of course.
Cardi B
I was terrible because you look like you used to roast.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Gross. I did everything bad you could do in the history of mankind. Like, we. You know, we used to play spades, right? You played spades. We used to play spades. And if you lost, you almost took orders. Like, they. They. They want Chef Boyardee and ice cream. You gotta go to the bodega and steal that shit. Like the. The L was. Whoever lost gotta go get the lunch. Chef Boyardee fucking ice cream. So. And niggas is real specific with what they want. Potato chip, salt and vinegar. This. You gotta go in there and you gotta steal that shit. Now, you know, Poppy catch you stealing in the store, you coming out there with some fucking speed dots up that bitch. But, yeah, we did every type of ghetto shit you could ever think of in the history. I'm through with ghetto shit. Like, I'm, Like, I'm done. I did everything. You know, I had the girlfriends argue in front of the building for 10 hours. Every type of ghetto shit you could think of in the history of mankind.
Jada
Ghetto shit.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
That ain't ghetto. That's Cool. It's cool. But every kind of stereotype, that was me, you know what I mean? I worked hard on myself, you know what I'm saying? To be respectful and do things right and. And try to be a good example for our community and like that. But every type of ghetto you ever thought of, I did it.
Jada
How important is it? I see you always. You try to help up and coming artists.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You.
Jada
You do a lot of stuff for people wanting to come. How important is that? To give back? Not too much because, you know, they take advantage from where we from. But how important is it to try to help those that need help?
Cardi B
I mean, I don't. I don't really see it like that, but sometimes, like, when I feel like people are getting, like, picked on and shit like that, or like you getting that hate train, I like to throw you a little advice from here on here and then. But that's just how I am. I don't know. Maybe I'm motherly, maybe. Maybe that's why God blessed me so much. Because sometimes I have a good heart, but sometimes as I have a good heart. But if, like, if I don't like.
Jada
You heart could get ugly.
Cardi B
I want you to die, die, die.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You want to beat the brace off him? Like.
Cardi B
Like, if I can. I'll probably be in jail right now, but I got sacrifice. I got kids.
Jada
Yeah, we need you here for the babies.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Baby, you did me a favor when we did the song together.
Cardi B
Oh, yeah, that was fun.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Me, you, and Nanuelle. This shit my last gold plat, and.
Cardi B
Now I understand more. I'll talk to you later about that. But now I understand more of the meaning of the music video. The beginning.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Oh, you get.
Cardi B
I'm around. I'm. I'm there now.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Chango, that's crazy.
Cardi B
That's you.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You ain't understand that.
Cardi B
At the beginning, I wasn't really there. Now I'm there.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah, they say that's me, but that's not me. What? I just did that as a tribute because the sample we used was. They shit. That's like, they holy. Yeah, that's like if you took a. We wish you a merry Christmas. We wish you a merry Christmas. Like, that sample we took is. They shit.
Cardi B
They shit.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
So they be like, yo, no way you taking our shit and you ain't paying homage. But yeah, it was. Thank you for that, man. You know, that was a great time. I like that song, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jada
That.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Jada, what's up?
Jada
That Was a nice one. Lord, I like that song too.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Nah, we did it big. So you got the store going. Will we ever see you? Like, we seen Bad Bunny. We seen them in a lot of movies. Have you ever touched the movies or thought about the movies?
Cardi B
Yes, but I really gotta. I really gotta, like, not be doing nothing. Like, I really can't be in that ain't happening. That shit takes a lot of your time and it's really fucking.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And you're a worker. You're a worker.
Jada
You said it's boring acting.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Oh, yeah.
Cardi B
Yes. Waking up at a certain time and then it's like you, you. It's like a clocking job. And then it's like, oh, this, this angle, that angle, this angle blocking the light.
Jada
Stand over there.
Cardi B
Yes.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yo, bro, I did 30 days night school. 30 days with Kevin Hart, Tiffany Addish. They would wake us up every day at six in the morning, right? Make up my scene. Eight to ten at night.
Cardi B
Yes, I'm ready.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know how many beef, turkey, beef jerkies I done ate already in now, ladies? And yeah, I'm trying to stay up. 10 o', clock, I finally do my scene. They take me to the hotel. One o', clock, six in the morning, they do it again. And they be laughing at me too. Like, yo, bro, this ain't the studio. Yeah, this ain't. Yo, wake up. This ain't the studio. This, this, that. They got joints. It's really hard work. Then they try that shit me and you was talking about in that meeting. Pay your dude.
Jada
Shit.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
They try to. Yo, you bro, you know what kind of money we getting out here? You go in there, they try to pay you minimum wage. Yo, you pay your dues. Meanwhile, they promote the whole movie. Fat Joe come see Fat Joe, come see Jadakiss. But they trying to minimum wage us talking about, yo, pay your dues. I'm like, pay my dues. Get the fuck out of here.
Cardi B
Acting is. I give it to them. That shit is a real clock in job.
Jada
Acting is crazy.
Cardi B
And I'm just a little bit fast. Maybe I got adhd, but it's like.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I. I gotta now, you like, control. You like to run your own show. You come in, you got the people combing your hair and shit. They looking at all. Yeah, that's not normal shit, by the way.
Cardi B
No, but seriously, you'll be up there all day and you're seeing this. Oh, God.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You up in there, they like, yo, you gotta pay your dude. This. I'm overpaying Fat Joe, who been rapping for 30 years is completely over. Paying his dues.
Jada
I was on the TV show Queen. They made me jump in the mud and made me jump in the rain.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
He was trying to get out of Yonkers bag.
Jada
That shit hurt me. I wanted to quit. I went to him, said, I don't think this is for me, lady. You got it? Had to have a rest, a fight in the mud and rain. And I ain't Bruce Willis or nothing. I want to say a few lines and go home. They made me tussle with the mud and rain.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Well, you know, through the movie, that's where I picked up my beard at. Remember I had a gold teeth forever. And then the movie, they made me wear a beard like people ain't gonna know who Fat Joe is. And. And then I was like, oh, I like it. Nah, the beard is legendary right now. That's not.
Jada
Did they gave you a fake one in the movie?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Huh?
Jada
In the movie?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah, they gave me a fake one. They glued my shit every day. They glued your face and then they put.
Jada
Did you ever go out after with the beard?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
No. They go, I'm not.
Jada
Should have went to the club.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I seen jaily character.
Jada
You character actor.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yo, I seen a very famous male singer. One time I ran into him and in Manhattan. And I'm looking at him like this, wearing makeup. I say, is he walking around, man with makeup on? This is a big time singer. And I look at him, I said, yo, this. You got some makeup on. He was like, oh, I was from a shoot. This like he tried to cheat.
Cardi B
They do that though for guys for like, if you're gonna do something for tv, TV bags look a little different on their cameras.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
No, no, they look like duffel tv. I'll do it. I ain't got no problem. I sit in the chair, I get it done. They say, let me take some of the shine off diddy bopping down 6th Avenue with the fucking glow up. And you were all the way a dude little. You know what I'm saying? It's just. I wouldn't do that shit.
Jada
Those that will we.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Oh, no, this ain't got nothing to do with what. With that. You know what I'm saying? I'm just joined by the regular guy.
Jada
Make sure family show.
Cardi B
Gotta be careful. You can't. You can't say too much now. No, there's a new generation.
Jada
Do you like football? Do you understand it?
Cardi B
I learned to understand it. I learned to understand it. I have to. I have to.
Jada
I love that. I love that.
Cardi B
I have to. You Know I'm a baseball player.
Jada
No doubt.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yeah, But I knew it was real when I seen you walking on the football field and all that and the practices and all that. All his mans had to be like, damn, boy, she up in the spot like, yo, this might be real. Like, you know what it is to be a star football player. Take your girl up on the field and practice. No, it mean this is serious. It mean, take this shit serious. And Cardi B said, oh, no, I got this. He ain't going nowhere.
Cardi B
Dating a ball player is very serious, too. It changed you around. They got some real. Yo, you know us rappers, we gotta be very grateful. We get our shit real easy. We can't. We practically could do whatever the fuck we want to do. They are military militant. Time. Wake up at a certain time. Be in the bed at a certain time. Get everything.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Three beans and asparagus.
Cardi B
That's the easy part.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Some don't want nothing. I'm telling you.
Cardi B
That's the easy part.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
That shit is military. Your body is your weapon, your everything. So like, even, like, you can't cheat. No, I mean, if you a boxer, if you cheat, we know, we know. You don't got the breath. You ain't got the. This you can get. You cheated your tryout. If you're a football player and you don't this and this and that, you cheating. You can't cheat. You gotta be dedicated to that. That's they shit.
Cardi B
Yeah, you can't miss.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Obviously, football players ain't like boxers that they can't have sex before a game.
Cardi B
Oh, no, I'm clearly. I'm dead as fuck. Like, they. Like, clearly.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
It's all good. You ain't taking away the energy. You know how they say boxing can't handle. Obviously, the football guys is supposed to be hip hop.
Jada
He's making an adult swim.
Cardi B
He. He's the responsible one. He act like we on Twitch and we can't curse. They know what the going on.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
You know, I gotta thank him because whenever I. I did this podcast without him yesterday, and I went crazy and I was like, damn, where is my man when I need him to say, chill, relax. Cause he's the calm. He.
Cardi B
We'll get canceled, honey.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yes. He's like. He's like, chill, relax. Yesterday, I'm up in the years. So what? It was like, yo, you know, they came with, you know, this. I'm like. I walk out of there my own. The crazy guy, the Faithos, we call him the Hug.
Jada
Miss me.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
They walk out with me like, yo.
Jada
God, I should have told me. I would have came. This should be referee for you, what.
Cardi B
You was doing yesterday.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
We did. We did a show yesterday.
Jada
Yesterday.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And Neil, it was great.
Cardi B
He's living his life, honey. He got three hoes.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Four.
Cardi B
Four.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Four. Guess what? There's a such thing. I asked him. There's a Alaskan king bed, right?
Jada
What's the called Alaskan king, man?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
It's Alaskan. He got up, he got a couple of. He sleep with four talking to us.
Jada
He got it.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Listen, that man gotta fit five people. Him, four chicks in the. In. In the. In. In the bed. That's a different kind of bag.
Cardi B
But what makes you go from being married to. What makes you go from being married to having, like, four girlfriends?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Well, I'm tell you the answer since.
Cardi B
Yeah, guys.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
No, no, no, no. Not we. Not guys. We don't got four wives. I'm gonna tell you.
Jada
I can't answer.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I'm gonna tell you what the man told me.
Jada
Okay. That's a good answer.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And it was a good answer. He said, I was tired of hurting women. I was tired of hurting.
Jada
Did he get a lot of hurt?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
He said, cheating on them and stuff like that to where I was like, it. I'm gonna let y' all know I need four.
Jada
Y' all with it selling in the party. Said I'm just gonna keep everything. A hundred if the dress looks horrible. Yeah, everything.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Clean slate. He said. He's not lying no more. Yeah, and he needs four. You know. You know, got put in a lot of work, boy.
Cardi B
I don't think it's that easy. I don't care what he say. They ain't that easy.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Four women?
Jada
Yeah. How could it, bro?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I got a daughter and a wife and I'm dizzy, bro.
Cardi B
What are you talking about?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Four women?
Cardi B
You make it sound like it's easy. That is not easy.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Single my brother Fritz, player, be like, yo, I pray for you. That's the. He said, you're. You're going to heaven.
Cardi B
How many can you. You bust in a day? Imagine if I don't want to get that day.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
He gotta put it. Could you. Could you.
Cardi B
Ow.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Are we going back?
Cardi B
And so then it's like technically putting.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
That work on a fork.
Jada
What about the album? I' ma feel the dance class.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Oh, so you're gonna feel away? No.
Cardi B
Cause he making it sound easy. And I know it's not easy. I know it's not easy. If you got four bitches, right? You could buzz like twice a day, probably.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Oh, God.
Cardi B
If. If it's four, and it's that hard. I want to get. But you this bitch and now you care enough for me. Not. Not one. Not one of the bitches is tight. So you ain't telling me it's not easy. You not telling me it's easy. That is not easy. For real, dead ass.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Yo, but listen what I feel a.
Cardi B
Certain type of way. You just fuck this bitch in the morning now. You cannot put me in the afternoon. And I need Bigg now. But you can't fuck me because you fucked me bitch, earlier. That shit makes you want to argue. That will get me tight.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
And so you as a female saying, don't go for that. It's got to be turbulence.
Cardi B
Then they have to.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
What you want me to do? Man, that fucking Cardi B. She's saying some real shit. We want to know what the women think. The women want to know what we think. We want to know what they think.
Jada
We're here with Neil. Would have been a good one.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
It would have been. She got. You got this guy crying, but that's real shit. I didn't get into that right like that.
Cardi B
I know they be arguing. I want to know now. I want to know.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Can we hear a snippet of a song?
Cardi B
Y' all want to hear a song?
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Your song?
Jada
You ain't got to hear hear no.
Cardi B
What wave y' all want me to do.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
We want the wave.
Cardi B
We gonna keep it fun. My better day. Now he messed up.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Or they got baddie.
Jada
Make sure y' all get the album. All platforms. You every way you could get the goddamn holy. Get it.
Cardi B
You got the first bodega. I mean, you got the first La Caldi. That's my Spanish version. And I first said it in your record. And everybody knows when I go Spanish, they call me la, so.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Well, let me tell you know that fact. Let me tell you something, Manuel. When we. When I played him, your. He was like, yo, she trying to go crazy. She said like crazy. It meant too much to him when.
Cardi B
He heard he became a personality like a. That's when I go Spanish, yo.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Let me tell you something. This right here, this ain't safe. This like, we got to bring Marina back. I got to have a mor. Some mango, yo, with some queso. You know what I'm saying? This too Dominican right here. This crazy, though. Karl Anthony Towns was here the other day. Dominicano? Yes, from the Knicks.
Cardi B
I was going hard for his ass. I was rooting hard.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
We made him dance, too, right? We played the mamelo maneo Mateo. He Got up and started doing Dominico. Him too. He started dancing. Listen, the thing about Dominican people is that they love to have a good time. They love to feed you. They love. I love Santo Domingo, bro. There's no question about it. And so we looking excited to this album. This album is coming out before we drop this, right? So we able to play the music.
Jada
Album is out right now, ladies and gentlemen.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
Is out right now. Yo, the album is crazy. The album is out. Talk about Cardi broke a record. Cardi broke a record. This shit is crazy. Everybody, everybody out there see the hard.
Jada
Work she put in on the promo.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
It's too real. She couldn't tell you something. You, as an example.
Jada
She went home.
Joe Crack (Fat Joe)
I use you as an example, right? Because before you made great music, before you ever dropped a song, people loved you. They loved your personality. They love your outspokenness, your realness. And then you dropped the hit, which is like, we fucking love her already. And now we support your music. There's some people that's talented as shit that just. That people don't gravitate to you, don't have that problem. You're a phenomenon where people just love you and they just sit there with every last word you say and they gonna support you 10 million percent because you the real deal. And so I have no doubts on you. I never had doubts ever, ever, ever. You're a perfectionist. That's why it took so long to drop this album. She threw some shit out there, bro. That shit crazy, man. So we proud of you.
Jada
This ain't that. That ain't this crap.
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Release Date: September 23, 2025
Podcast: Joe and Jada (iHeartPodcasts & The Volume)
Guests: Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Cardi B
In this vibrant episode, legendary Bronx MCs Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome Cardi B to the couch for a candid, wide-ranging conversation. Topics include her fourth pregnancy, relationship with Stefon Diggs, a viral lawsuit, and her long-awaited album 'Am I The Drama?' The trio dive into Cardi’s climb from the Bronx, music industry challenges, viral moments, motherhood, and why Cardi always keeps it real—both online and off. Bronx pride, hustle, resilience, and humor drive the discussion, making it a must-listen for fans of hip-hop and culture.
Pride and Hardship:
Fat Joe and Jada open with Bronx pride and reflect on how hard it is to rise from their neighborhood. Cardi talks about her gritty upbringing:
"It's so many experiences. The bad is seeing things. The bad is feeling broke...Me and my sister, we see somebody get they had blown off... that's just the...that's what it is in the Bronx."
— Cardi B (05:15)
Resilience and Realness:
Cardi shares how her openness—and showing her struggles—inspired and drew people in.
Jada observes,
“She was able to use coming out of the trenches to her advantage and bloom to a f***ing megastar.”
— Jada (04:34)
Style and Confidence:
Discussion on Cardi’s bold fashion and jewelry as a Bronx trait, as Cardi jokes:
“Today I was like, imma dress like a f*ing rapper. Today. I’m gonna be a bad b**.”
— Cardi B (06:54)
Cardi admits she’s always been a relationship person and values family:
“If I f*** ya, I might fall in love with ya. And you gotta be mine. Ain't no way around it.”
— Cardi B (08:13)
Fat Joe laments public cynicism toward real love and how social media exposure kills privacy.
"Shout out Stephon Diggs, right? That's baby daddy."
— Fat Joe (09:32)
Cardi opens up about being sued over a verbal spat, venting about costly, frivolous celebrity lawsuits:
“It’s costing money...It will snatch deals off your table before you even go to court.”
— Cardi B (11:50)
Fat Joe empathizes, sharing his own legal woes:
“I might have paid 20 lawsuits in my life for beating people up...After the 20th time, I finally realized, yo, bro, I gotta stop punching dudes in the face. They know I got bread.”
— Fat Joe (12:46)
Cardi asserts how even an accusation can ruin careers and income, even if no evidence exists.
Cardi discusses the journey to her sophomore album and why now feels right:
“I feel like I got every type of record...there’s nothing missing. I know it took a long time, but right now is the right time. I feel like I’m going through a whole reset in life.”
— Cardi B (15:22)
The rollout is grassroots, from club promos to viral videos:
“I just like to do things my way...my label want me to do it, but then I got my own way to do it. I’m not that savvy in the TikTok world...I’m an old b****, so I'm gonna just do it my own way.”
— Cardi B (16:53)
Fat Joe and Jada praise Cardi for embracing haters, keeping things authentic, and championing Bronx project wit.
“I look at you up and down, and I could roast you. But I had to, because it’s like n****s was roasting me.”
— Cardi B (18:53)
“I gotta go to the gym. I hate the gym. Gotta go to the gym. I gotta take dance classes...now it’s straight rehearsal...in February, I’m ready to f***ing bust a move.”
— Cardi B (23:36)
“Maybe that’s why God blessed me so much. Because sometimes I have a good heart...but if I don’t like you, heart could get ugly.”
— Cardi B (41:16)
“You make it sound like it's easy. That is not easy...if you got four bes...not one of the bes is tight? You ain't telling me it’s easy. Dead ass.”
— Cardi B (53:02)
“Before you made great music, people loved you...your personality, your outspokenness, your realness...there’s some people that’s talented as sh*t that...people don’t gravitate to. You don’t have that problem. You’re a phenomenon. People just love you and support you 10 million percent because you the real deal.” — Fat Joe (57:59)
On growing up in the Bronx:
“Every trip to the bodega is like, if I see this b****, it’s on...that’s just what it is.”
— Cardi B (06:01)
On lawsuits as a celebrity:
“People could accuse you and you could lose everything off that one bullshit they say...and it could be the most ridiculous things that never happened.”
— Cardi B (11:50)
On keeping it authentic:
“I could argue all day. In the Bronx, I had to stay up to six in the morning snapping on people...so when you disrespect me on a comment, just know I’m coming right back.”
— Fat Joe (18:08)
On why people love Cardi:
“Before you made great music, people loved you...your personality, your outspokenness, your realness...You’re a phenomenon.”
— Fat Joe (57:59)
Bold, irreverent, Bronx raw and highly personal—as always for Joe, Jada, and Cardi. Humor and hard truths combine, with authenticity at the center.
If you want to understand how Cardi B stays on top while keeping it real—and what it means to rise from the BX, battle the industry, and still love your community—this episode delivers both wisdom and laughter, straight from the heart of hip-hop.