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- [00:00]
Fat Joe
Yo, it's D.J.
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Jada
Wells here.
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Fat Joe
The NBA on Prom is back tomorrow.
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Jada
With another great Emirates NBA cup doubleheader. First you got Pascal Siakam and the.
- [00:08]
Fat Joe
Pacers as they score off against Navy.
- [00:10]
Jada
Mitchell in the Cavs. There's Nikolai Jokic and the Nuggets taking care of Kevin Durant and the Rockets.
- [00:15]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
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- [00:16]
Jada
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- [00:23]
Fat Joe
Restrictions apply.
- [00:24]
Jada
See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details.
- [00:28]
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- [01:28]
Fat Joe
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- [01:31]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [01:33]
Fat Joe
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- [01:36]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [01:37]
Fat Joe
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- [01:56]
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- [02:31]
Jada
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- [03:22]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
You don't remember when I first met you and we had been hearing showbiz and ag like Andre the Giant, and we was at some video shoot and I thought you was Andre the Giant.
- [03:33]
Fat Joe
Cause, you know, like, n didn't have videos. They didn't have video. You know, n didn't know. So I was like, yo, makes sense. Yo, that's Andre the Giant. I went up to you say you was like, nah, pass. I'm Fat Joe. I was like, oh, What up, y'?
- [04:02]
Jada
All?
- [04:02]
Fat Joe
This is Joe Crack the Dawn.
- [04:04]
Jada
It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, Every show iconic. We haven't let you down yet. Today's guest. When you think of hip hop royalty, when you think of somebody left their phone on, when you think of bars, when you think of camaraderie, when you think of loyalty, when you think of standing 10 toes down as artists to fight for your rights. Even when it's not looking good, but just that, you just stay down. Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for De La Song.
- [04:45]
Fat Joe
What's up, nigga?
- [04:49]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Earth.
- [04:52]
Fat Joe
First of all, brothers. Wow.
- [04:54]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Peace.
- [04:55]
Fat Joe
Believe it or not, you know where we from, we pay.
- [04:59]
Jada
I lose my section 8. Lose my sex and Nate, I need something to fall back, you know what I mean?
- [05:14]
Fat Joe
That's a big deal.
- [05:15]
Jada
You guys out there don't know. Soon you'll know. And those are dead stock too, know? I mean, you ain't got to worry and ain't no old 80s. And then those came straight out the box.
- [05:26]
Fat Joe
There you go.
- [05:28]
Jada
DS now they like a rim brick now.
- [05:31]
Fat Joe
Them shits is legendary right now.
- [05:33]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Freeze.
- [05:34]
Jada
Brother loves go hang crank.
- [05:36]
Fat Joe
What I was gonna say is thank you. Believe it or not, we like to call this show the rookies of the year.
- [05:42]
Jada
Whatever.
- [05:42]
Fat Joe
We try to play him humble to everybody before us, but God damn it, we on fire and names Keep flying through. And I don't know. It's not enough time. It's whatever. All I know is, the second De La Soul was mentioned, the whole room was like, yes. Hell, yeah. It was not even a discussion. It was like, oh, no, we gotta have, like. And that's not really happening for everybody, you guys. I don't even know how to describe it to you. You know, you guys are probably not really older than me, but you came in the game before me, so I look up to you guys. Like, you guys paved the way for all of us. Like, y' all beyond royalty. You're actually the first nice guys I ever listened to. Everybody else was nwa, killer shit, Fuck your moms. This, this, that. I remember selling drugs, playing potholes in my lawn, and I'm a buddy, buddy, buddy. And so it's an honor for us to have you guys, because that's what this show is all about. You know the reason why we got involved with the podcast? Cause it was like, people ain't telling this shit, right? And then you got invalid people trying to make valid critique. No, no. Like, who are you, like, trying to critique anyway? I'm not gonna do that. Listen, De La Soul, bro, it's a honor and a half to have you guys on the show, man. We truly appreciate you. Truly. We love y'.
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Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
All.
- [07:10]
Fat Joe
I know. We love you, too, but I've just gotta. I gotta explain it to you on the. There's different explanations. You guys are on a different level of explanation. I'm gonna go somewhere. It's sad, but I'm gonna go. You know, our brother passed away. That's okay, right? So we all know. We all know that when we die, there should be an outpour of love, right? I tell my wife all the time, I said, yo, when Fat Joe died, get ready. Because anybody who ain't never big him up, they're finally going to be like, I'mma big him up. Like, let's say the truth about this guy, right? But your man died, and the outpouring was legendary. And did it surprise you that he got so much of an outpouring? Because even me, my shit was, like, teared up. My message, like, I watched people who don't big people up, big him and y' all up on another level. Was that surprising?
- [08:08]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
For me, I don't. I wouldn't say it was surprising. I mean, we've been blessed from the beginning to travel all over the world. So we know, and we're humble enough to see the effect we've had gracefully enough on people, it was just a blessing. And I feel like a lot of people, they were rooting for us. Like, they was like, yo, man, y' all was going through your situation with that, the label and all that. And now y' all got y'.
- [08:33]
Ryan Seacrest
All.
- [08:33]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Y' all masters and da, da, da, da. And right before the finish line, we lost them. So I just think, like, it was that everyone was already in with us from that context, and so it was.
- [08:43]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Like, damn, y' all know, for the underdog kind of. Yeah, it was definitely overwhelming to see the. Everyone we came up with, everyone that just in the industry come out, and it had that same effect. You know what I mean? It wasn't. It wasn't fake.
- [09:01]
Fat Joe
He had one of the most outpouring of sincere love that I had seen in the industry myself. You know, you guys are. Respect is that, you know, when you a man of respect, when you lived on this earth, traveled everywhere you went, and you guys are just men of respect. You are who you are. You trailblazers, you pioneers, you make whatever music you want to make. And then finally, there's a moment that, unfortunately, it's a sad moment, but it's a time where you go, yo, let's. Let's say what we think about these guys, let's let them know that's how I felt from the outside in. I know you was dealing with your brother. You know, that's blurry. You know what I'm saying? Sean C, here, big up. Sean C. He was big. Pun passed, and that whole was a blur. You know, no matter who's calling you or showing you love or whatever you like, this is crazy.
- [09:53]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah.
- [09:54]
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? But that was beautiful to see. Jada, you got your.
- [09:59]
Jada
I'm kicking it, man. Kevin Scott, new album, no Doubt, Brother. Executive produced by Pete Rock, coming out on Massive pill, part of the Legend series. Some incredible features on there. What was it like just making this album? Especially, you know, with Dave not being here? You know, how did it feel? What was the mistake? I wasn't. You know, for dudes that don't understand making the album, show them a little bit of the process and know the feelings of recording this project.
- [10:30]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Well, it's like some of the music we had, because originally we were supposed to do this album called Premium Sold on the Rocks with Pete and Preem.
- [10:39]
Fat Joe
Oh, wow.
- [10:40]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
So it just kind of, for whatever reason, just never really got off. This never, never happened. But we had stuff in the can. Some from Pete, a little bit from Preen, Peter from Mass Appeal and Nas, they came to us and it was like, yo, man, we want y' all to be a part of this Legend series. We would love for y' all to do this, but y' all gotta have this album ready by this year. So I was like, yo, let's, you know, let's do it. So we saw what we already had kind of in the can. The thing is that we had stuff from Dave, from other producers that we work with. Super Dave west, we have some from Jake. One, we did Rock Cocaine Flow on the Grind Date album, stuff like that. So we felt like, you know what? We can't just allow it to just be Pete and Pream. We need to add and so we don't have to now take Dave's verses off and add it to some other made up shit. We didn't want to do that.
- [11:29]
Fat Joe
It's the hard shit.
- [11:29]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah. Yeah, man. But Dave, he was with me, like, seriously when we was making this shit. He was right there with me, you know, and I heard him with me. Like, Dave would always be like, yo, Merce, man, what you wrote is dope. But you could put more of that bullshit on it. Like, he would say, like, you know, put that personality. And I kept him in my ear like that when I'm in the booth. And I was like, I can hit it harder. And Sean Cee would be there, and then he'd be like, nah, that was a good take. I'm like, nah, nah, I could do it better. Cause I just heard Dave telling me, nah, do it, do it again and stuff like that. And I mean, like, just picking choices for different styles and for the album. Like, I felt like Dave was right there while I was writing Fuck. You know what I'm saying? And I mean, usually when he was.
- [12:13]
Fat Joe
Physically here, we did a lot of.
- [12:15]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
That where me and Dave didn't have to be together. Like, we just so in sync. And Dave was just such an ill nigga where, like, I would come in and be saying my rhyme and he'll just put himself under the pressure listening to me in the booth, and he'll just bang his shit out right there and then connect shit. So the process was just like, believe it or not, for me, it wasn't hard. It was just like, I need. I just knew that I was on one. Like, I had to prove, like, we can do this shit. We're gonna do it for Dave, you know, and get it right, you know? So that's how it was for me. Like, I don't know if niggas seen that Outsiders movie back in the day where the Matt Dillon n like, yo, we gotta do this for Johnny. I was like that for Dave. Like, we undo this shit for Dave. So I was just on it like that.
- [12:55]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Nah, I concur, man.
- [12:56]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
For real.
- [12:57]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Like, it needed to have its presence, you know? I think the record is therapeutic for everybody. It's closure for a lot of us, and you can feel them throughout the record. The whole Cabin of the sky idea to me is, like, he working on the record from up there, you know?
- [13:16]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah.
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Fat Joe
Is there a name for, like, these albums when somebody passes.
- [13:21]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Well, how you say?
- [13:21]
Fat Joe
A pot posture. Right. I hate when they chop up. They get a freestyle from a. Yeah, you said to do somebody.
- [13:31]
Jada
I added to the ones he had instead of just that way, they'd be jigsaw puzzles and people like, I' ma.
- [13:36]
Fat Joe
Just keep it real. I'd never heard Biggie say a whack verse in my life. And they started playing with them. They had, like, Biggie Christmas Eve, then was just pulling out from victory verses, and they was just pimping that shit on another level where I was just like, yo, this shit ain't like, Big wouldn't have did this, wouldn't have did that.
- [13:55]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah.
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Fat Joe
You know, and it's hard because, you know, the fans, they want anything. They want to hear this. They want to hear what you got. Yeah, stash. I mean, somebody who did it. Great. Primo and Guru, their last album, they had dropped together. The gangstar, that shit. I felt like Guru was here. I don't know if it came out five years ago or something.
- [14:15]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah.
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David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Question.
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Fat Joe
We got clips. We got Cardi B. She definitely put some shit out the park.
- [14:30]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah.
- [14:31]
Fat Joe
And we got more deep. I listen more deep every day. Yeah, that Mob Deep album is.
- [14:35]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
And it was just like, really?
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Fat Joe
That shit.
- [14:37]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah. Yeah.
- [14:38]
Fat Joe
You know, it get me going. But yeah. Yeah, that's a good example of it's.
- [14:42]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Quality for us always over quantity, you.
- [14:44]
Fat Joe
Know, that's in y' all your whole life.
- [14:47]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
We tried our best, you know what I'm saying? We've always felt like, yo, we could marry ourselves to the right track. That's how me and Dave always approached music. Right circumstance. We could do it, like. I mean, crazy enough. We never even got to do one with Jaw, but we was always like, yo, we gotta do joints. We gotta do one with the Locks, like. Cause we would've, like, married the right shit, you know, not just to do it. And then you be like, yo, I got a song that locks. But the Shit is bullshit. That ain't us. Like, when you navigate in, like, you.
- [15:15]
Fat Joe
Guys don't work Chaka Khan. The thing I love most about y' all and something I tried to be throughout my whole career. First of all, y' all got a lot of hits.
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David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Thank you.
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Jada
Don't get catalog out of this world.
- [15:28]
Fat Joe
Catalog is out of this world. Number two is. None of them sound the same. I love that. You know, I don't like to duplicate or recycle. His Somebody Dead ass told me one time in the studio, like, I should do lean forward, lean back. Yo, I'm telling you, that's a flag. That is a flag, nigga. Whoa. I'm trying to tell you. This is what they do. They run with the same sauce. This is what they do. They run with the same thought. They run with the same energy trying to duplicate the last hit. That's you guys in your face now. That's stuck in your face. Why Part two, How you see when? When did it? Yeah. So leave it. Yes alone. When I go through your catalog, nothing sound the same. I love that as a creative. I love that because I'm like, all right. They not chasing the same shit. Same style. I gotta take it back to native tongue, right?
- [16:38]
Jada
Yeah.
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Fat Joe
How did that come about? Hell of an error. No, you ran the error. There's just no way around it. Y' all was the most fire shit smoking with all of y'. All. Who exactly was in native tongue? Who came up with. Yo, we should all rock with each other. That's crucial to hip hop. Yeah.
- [16:56]
Jada
One day missing right now.
- [16:58]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
It's missing. It is missing. One day I rolled up on at Africa's crib. Africa was staying out at. What was that? Bay Ridge?
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Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah.
- [17:07]
Jada
Shout out to the jungle, bro.
- [17:08]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, man. And Tip was already there.
- [17:11]
Fat Joe
I was selling a lot of crack to the Jungle brothers. But go ahead, go ahead. Come on. Nah, it's a family show, okay? Nah. Cause I remember me on the plot listening to all that shit, you know? Like, it was that time. So, yeah, I roll up to AB's.
- [17:30]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Crib, and tip was like, yo, AB, tell him what we was just talking about. I was like, what up? And he was like, yo, man, we got such a vibe together. You know, when we make music, why don't we put our name on the one name and call it Native Tongues? And I was like, I'm with it.
- [17:46]
Fat Joe
Like, that sounds crazy.
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David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Cause he was like, yeah, like, we too, dope. We talk kind of like our language is the same. We, like, we have this native Kinship. And I was like, I'm with it. I was like, yo, I'll go back and tell my niggas. Y' all go back to. And that's what it was like. T went to tribe.
- [18:00]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Best thing that never happened.
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David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah. Like, when I went to him, I was like. And Dave. And they was like, yo, we with it. So we all just connected from that standpoint on. LA was already coming around. Latifah was just already coming around, getting signed with the Tommy Boy. She would just come hang out with us in Long island. And, like, she was like our sister and became like her mother. Cause she was so maternal and she could throw joints. Like, she was just like. So, like, we was like, yo, Locke gotta be down with this. And so that was it right there. Like. And then people just started getting added on.
- [18:29]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Monique came in.
- [18:30]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah. Africa was like, Moni. And it was like, never a question. It was like, aph knows music. If Africa's saying, like, we gonna put Moni down, then she's down.
- [18:39]
Fat Joe
No Moni. That's dead nice. I think she should have been bigger than she it. And she got like, Moni was dead nice. She was killing shit.
- [18:47]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, she.
- [18:48]
Fat Joe
She definitely. I don't know what happened to where she should have come out with her own hits and projects and stuff like that, because we definitely, as fans, is waiting for Moni Love. You know the Jungle Brothers, man, that was. They even had the girl LA house.
- [19:07]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, man.
- [19:08]
Fat Joe
You in my hut, man.
- [19:09]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
That's why I always say that. That's when we was doing in New York, we was doing track dates. You just run up to Aladdin, you do one song. You didn't jet up to, like, somewhere in Jersey. Do another song. Go up to the Bronx.
- [19:20]
Fat Joe
You wasn't the only one doing that, brother. That was the chitlin circuit. That was New York City chicken chitlin circuit. There you go. I do Yonkers, I do White Plains, and I do the Fever in the Bronx. And I made 1200 that day. Wasn't paying, yo.
- [19:38]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
That's real, though.
- [19:39]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
What?
- [19:39]
Fat Joe
Flo Jo was number one. I was getting 500 this show. I was going to Fayetteville, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia one day. Yeah, well, won it even when the shit was crazy. Not. Yo, we made it through the Starvation hell, right?
- [19:55]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
No doubt.
- [19:55]
Fat Joe
Because that was. I don't give a how hot I seen. And I don't want him. I don't want to quote me, because I'm sure he's coming up here. But you know my idol, Cool J, I Heard him one time. I don't know if it's true. This might be. You gotta fact check. Don't do that. It might be a flag. But I heard him say he was doing like, arenas at his prom for like 15,000. But he was the headliner of the whole, like, Madison Square. The money just wasn't there.
- [20:23]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Nah, it wasn't big like that. I mean, ticket sales was like $10.
- [20:26]
Jada
$10?
- [20:27]
Fat Joe
Shit like that.
- [20:28]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [20:29]
Fat Joe
Right now you see the young boy NBA, he did a half a million fans. Them motherfuckers is paying. You got to pay.
- [20:36]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, because you.
- [20:37]
Fat Joe
I'm a sneak into Monica and Brandi. I told them already, I'm sneaking in this shit. I'm telling you. I'm sneaking in this shit. I told my wife, whoever's coming, I'm sneaking in. Yo, it's Fat Joe. Let me. Like, you see niggas in the back door. I'm sneaking in. I'm going in. I'm like, yo, supposed three of us. Like, I'm doing that. I don't even want to play with people with the tickets and shit like that. It's. It's must see. I gotta go to Brandi, Monica. I'm sneaking in. I told my whole family, yo, look, follow me close. Because I'm sneaking in. We don't actually have tickets. Nah, we're gonna sneak in.
- [21:12]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Nah, them tickets is real. I just got my. My wife, like, tickets to that show. And then she realized that she had double booked. Cause she gotta do something with my daughter and take us someplace. And I'm like, yo, you gotta figure that out. Cause tickets is real. Like, you gotta go.
- [21:28]
Fat Joe
That show don't sleep.
- [21:30]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Ticket price. And it's red line and 2. It's like the red line shirt. It's for certain people who can't go. That's why they make it a certain price.
- [21:38]
Fat Joe
That's life. You go to a restaurant, you'll see no black and Spanish people in there. It's just the prices. Ah, crazy.
- [21:44]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, man.
- [21:45]
Fat Joe
You look around, you be like this, you a fucking clam. It's $150. You like, yo, niggas ain't fucking with this shit, man. I'm going down the block like they ain't fucking with it. I'm telling you, that's always been a gimmick.
- [22:00]
Jada
Maryland.
- [22:01]
Fat Joe
Yeah, it's always Maryland. Yeah. No, but I'm telling you, that's how I get down. They. They out price you. So it'd be so much. It'd be so expensive. That you'd be like, yo, it. I'm going over here, you guys, man. Let me tell you something, man. I was so excited. I was like a kid on Christmas today coming over here because I got De La Soul here, man. I remember looking at video, music box, seeing y' all in the classrooms, seeing y', all, and I was just like, these guys are super legends. Q. Tips, one of my best friends. Qtip. I don't know if you know, right? Because, you know. No, no, I'm just saying because, you know, everybody got best friends that they don't know. No, everybody got best friends. You know, me and Tip, we got a serious relationship for all these years. People don't know. He might actually be my weirdest friend relationship. Cause Q, Tip don't fuck with nobody, bro. You fuck with Joe Crack. Yo, Joe, what's up? Yo, me and him, like, we really friends.
- [23:02]
Jada
Q.
- [23:02]
Fat Joe
Tip is like, you know, you get him when you get him.
- [23:05]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah.
- [23:06]
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? He come out when he want to come out, you know? What's that relationship with y' all and Fife? Rest in peace, Fife, dawg. What was that like, you know, coming up in the game? Cause I feel like that was the same time coming up with Tribe.
- [23:24]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
And we all was like minded brothers, man. We loved each other even up to the very day. Even Fife Patch. You know what I'm saying?
- [23:31]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah.
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Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Fife was coming out on the road with us. You know, he was our secret weapon when we was doing certain shows like Rock the Bells or whatever. We got Fife or we got biz. You know what I mean? So, you know, I mean, we was raised together in this shit, man.
- [23:47]
Fat Joe
Yeah.
- [23:47]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
You know, we stuck together, you know, good and bad.
- [23:51]
Fat Joe
That's our brother.
- [23:52]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Music. No music. We family, man.
- [23:54]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Me and this dude and Tip, like, we be in a chat every day, usually talking, like now, like, we would send records. We'll be having battles in the chat. Tip set it off. I'll throw something like, ah, nigga, you don't remember this one? And Mace be sitting on the sidelines also. He jump in like, we bug out all the time.
- [24:14]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
We still have a good time.
- [24:15]
Fat Joe
Q. Tip got a real studio in his house. Yes, Battery studio. Million dollar battery studio in his house. Not no disrespect, not D block. Not this. This has. No, no, I'm just saying. Listen. No, no, no. I'm not dissing your studio. What I'm saying is. Yo, Rich, listen. Yo, I'm not saying.
- [24:39]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
I gotta admit, this show has been needed.
- [24:42]
Fat Joe
This show has been Needed. No, no.
- [24:45]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Have been needing.
- [24:45]
Fat Joe
Yo, listen to what I'm saying. Me and Lucha, I love y'. All. Worship y'. All. Don't do that. What I'm trying to say. So you're saying, yo. That he got the hit factory in his house, is what? Like, you might as well just sign in the schedule. Yeah, you go in that. You in the hair factory. He's not in the closet. Like, he don't go in his refrigerator and pull out a diet coat. When you go downstairs, you in a real studio.
- [25:18]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Indeed.
- [25:18]
Fat Joe
I couldn't believe that. I never seen nobody have that in their house. Nobody, right. Not even like a Scott Squad Bubble.
- [25:26]
Jada
Hill had a real studio.
- [25:28]
Fat Joe
He had the real shit.
- [25:30]
Jada
Yeah. That was just houses from. He got off Eddie Murphy, where they did party all the time. That was a real story.
- [25:36]
Fat Joe
I believe that. Anything with Swiss. He got the Batman house board. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Q Tip those on that LL Cool J song with Ross. He was like, yo, what you got for me, Joe?
- [25:47]
Jada
I'm not trying to get you on.
- [25:49]
Fat Joe
I did the song. Yeah, but he forced me to do it right there. Come on, Joe, talk that, man. Let's. I said, yo, first you asked me to come here, some records.
- [26:01]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Now.
- [26:01]
Fat Joe
Now I gotta be on. You know, it's with my idol. But, I mean, like, he put me on the spot, man. Shout out to now.
- [26:09]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
That's how.
- [26:09]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
That's our brother, man.
- [26:10]
Fat Joe
He's.
- [26:10]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
He's on the new album. He's on this joint we got called Day in the Sun. So.
- [26:13]
Jada
Yeah, like, I want to talk about that. The features.
- [26:16]
Fat Joe
Let me. Who's on the feeder?
- [26:18]
Jada
N. Black Thought Killer.
- [26:21]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Killer Mike.
- [26:21]
Fat Joe
So he's thinking Killer Mike.
- [26:23]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
What the.
- [26:24]
Fat Joe
Yeah, it's a crazy lineup.
- [26:27]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, dog, it's really talking about bars.
- [26:29]
Fat Joe
That came out with the Metra.
- [26:33]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah.
- [26:33]
Fat Joe
If y' all pull out the Metra. The Achilles of nice guys, every one of them came out black. Th.
- [26:41]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yep.
- [26:42]
Fat Joe
Common.
- [26:42]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Common.
- [26:43]
Fat Joe
Yeah. Nas. Nas been spitting lately. What? No, no, no, no, no. What. What do you want me to say? Yeah, I'm sorry, dog. You gotta. You gotta get that one. You gotta get that. No, no, guys, let me explain something to y'.
- [27:00]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
All.
- [27:01]
Fat Joe
Nobody's a bigger Nas fan than Fat Joe. Bill Matic, my favorite album ever. I've actually credit him with most of my success from me studying him. But in this Legend series, he found that flow where he just killing with the shit. With Big L, the shit. Everything he just killing. You know what I'm saying? Even them records that won the Grammy or whatever. It was still like a new Nas flow. It wasn't that. Yeah, he's just been, like, going crazy on these songs with this Legend series right here. So you got all these features. I mean, nobody gave you a hard time. Everybody just came through.
- [27:40]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Nah, nah. You know, we've never had a problem with asking we felt would be right for a certain track, you know, I mean. Cause we always had the mantra of, like, yo, all you could do is say is no. Like, say no. How could it be on to the next. You know what I'm saying? We've done that with certain people who are like, yo, all right, David Byrne from Talking Heads, let's ask. All I can do is say is no. And he said yes. It's like, all right, well, so that's how it's going.
- [28:03]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
I'm surprised. Would I say yes? You think would say no and vice versa.
- [28:09]
Fat Joe
Yeah, there's people.
- [28:11]
Jada
There's your people.
- [28:12]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, it'd be those. Those you ask and they freeze. Like, you'd be like, yo, can you get an album? Act like they turn stone, like if you can't see them and. And be like, all right.
- [28:23]
Fat Joe
I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I chased Maxwell for about 10 albums. I finally gave up. He told me, yeah, 10 times. We never showed up. Yeah, he's the one guy never showed up for Fat Joe. And I love him. I love Maxwell. But he's one of the guys who avoided me. But, you know, I used to have. Ever have to do that.
- [28:42]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Like, I mean, like, I wouldn't normally go to school.
- [28:45]
Fat Joe
I diss people all the time, though.
- [28:47]
Jada
I diss people all the time for not coming through.
- [28:50]
Fat Joe
Nah, it's just sometimes I don't want to do it. Like, sometimes, you know, I say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then turn around. I'm tired, man. This shit, 40 degrees. The heat ain't really working. I ain't coming out the crib. Fuck that.
- [29:05]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Hey, yo, Biz is crazy like that.
- [29:07]
Fat Joe
Biz would be like, yo, I'm right around the corner.
- [29:09]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
I'm right, and the nigga be in Maryland.
- [29:11]
Fat Joe
Yo, yo, Biz. Yo, yo, yo. Let me say biz. Mark E. Did my favorite hip hop song ever. My favorite hip hop song ever is the Vapors. And the story of my life, you know? I was a bum. Fucked up projects. They used to laugh at me. I used to tell them. Then I started coming around with the beam of the bends, playing the Vapor. I played. I'm surprised I'm not dead from being obnoxious. I played the Vapors so fucking loud one mile per hour through my projects like maybe 20 times a day. I just drive around the project we caught the Vapors, the Vapors one mile per hour. That's my favorite song song of all time. Oh biz man, what a beautiful club.
- [30:03]
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Right here.
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Let's get to it.
- [30:59]
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- [31:43]
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- [35:05]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
You don't remember when I first met you? And we have been here and show show biz and ag, like Andre the Giant, and we was at some video shoot, and I thought you was Andre the Giant.
- [35:17]
Fat Joe
Cause, you know, like, niggas didn't have video. They didn't have video, you know, N didn't know. So I was like, yo, makes sense. Yo, that's Andre the Giant. I went up to you and said you was like, nah, pas, I'm fat, yo. I was like, oh, hey, ag's one of my lyrical heroes. But, like, to see ag, he was so slim. I was like, you don't look like a giant. I used to stop ag. That's. That's hilarious. I used to stop AG all the time. And I used to force him to say this rhyme. He had this rhyme. Sally sold seashells down by the seashore. How much wood can the woodchuck? Every time we pull up to a show and there's 10,000 people ready to go, say, Yo, Ag, tell me the rhyme. Tell me. I was just so fascinated. I couldn't believe that he even said this shit. Like I used to. I used to harass yo, shout out to ag. Me and my brother. But you thought I was Andre the Jones. How about Fat Man Scoop, to this day, thought I was somebody. And I never told him I wasn't the guy. Fat Man Scoop said that he saw me battle some guys.
- [36:23]
Jada
He died thinking he was somebody else.
- [36:25]
Fat Joe
Yes.
- [36:28]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
I'm sorry.
- [36:28]
Fat Joe
I'm sorry, Scoop. I love you, Scoop. God. Yo, damn, Flack, what though? This Scoop we like, yo, Fat man, you know how you just said you thought I was Andre the Giant? Fat man, the Scoop had a story where he come up to me. Yeah, I seen you battle 10 guys. You had a bottle of Scope, and I be like, you like, that shit was dope. I mean, to the day he died, he told me this story. It was not me. I think I told you that one time, Shaw. See, he always thought I was this guy that he met battling like 10 guys with a bottle of. I guess his shit was like. Like Listerine, spit it out like some shit. And he would be like, yo, man, that was the illest shit ever. And I ain't know how to tell him, yo, Scoot, it ain't me. Like, I. Whoa. 30 years. For 30 years, I ain't know how to tell him it wasn't me. That's a story you tell everyone.
- [37:22]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Why you standing right next to him and you can't. You didn't.
- [37:25]
Fat Joe
You can't do nothing. Rest in peace, fat man.
- [37:28]
Jada
School.
- [37:28]
Fat Joe
We lost a lot of good ones.
- [37:29]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, man.
- [37:30]
Fat Joe
And. And that's another thing. We coming of age. Not that we gotta die. You know, they say China making shit make you live 150 years.
- [37:39]
Jada
I don't want that.
- [37:40]
Fat Joe
I do. You don't want that. You don't want to live 150.
- [37:43]
Jada
Everybody you know gonna be dead.
- [37:45]
Fat Joe
Not if they all get the shit. They can't get it.
- [37:48]
Jada
It's impossible for anybody, you know, to live to a 150. Must for everybody, you know, to even go to Jan. Yo.
- [37:59]
Fat Joe
Oh, I'm love y'.
- [38:01]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
All.
- [38:01]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
I'm watching my.
- [38:08]
Fat Joe
Yo, I love y'.
- [38:10]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
All.
- [38:11]
Fat Joe
You know, we try to do this different. You know, we crazy. We fly.
- [38:15]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
This is dope.
- [38:16]
Fat Joe
And then he got the. His jokes. It's like, yo, you get it on your way home. Yo, sometimes I go home. I watch. I said, yo, this thing could dissed me, man.
- [38:25]
Jada
I didn't.
- [38:26]
Fat Joe
I didn't even catch that. That's why he's top five, dead or alive. Witty as be saying, I don't catch.
- [38:33]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
It on the show.
- [38:34]
Ryan Seacrest
I watch.
- [38:35]
Fat Joe
I said, oh, I gotta get Jada. I gotta get him. This guy here, he's too witty. I can't pick up on the spot.
- [38:44]
Jada
Let's talk about this for a minute. Cause we all been through some shit with the label. I stayed down, formed that battle. I know it was discouraging at times. You was ready to say, fuck this shit. We can't win for y' all to just stay firm and roll it. How what was that like for the. Because people were outside. They don't know how to scale this tip force.
- [39:07]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah. I mean, yo, it's wild. I mean, it's almost like I really don't want to touch on it.
- [39:11]
Fat Joe
Yeah, but no, no, you got to. No, it's legal. We're not messing up, bringing anything. Science. This shows gems for the youth behind us to pick up on what we went through.
- [39:25]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
It'll be a level of like, you young. Someone gives you this opportunity. You never had anything, so you really don't know. Like, what they're giving you is like this little piece of bacon from a table that got fucking 7,000 pigs you can slaughter and have for your own. So when you start learning, all right, cool. You learn, and hopefully you negotiate and you have people in your corner, and then. But then you then realize that the nigga who was negotiating for you, he's down with that nigga, maybe that type of stuff, you start learning and understanding.
- [40:00]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
And it's on the job training.
- [40:01]
Fat Joe
Yeah. Like any other learning on a whim.
- [40:03]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah. So as we learn it, you know. You know, throughout the process, I start to learn like, everybody's cutting the deal. The deal is happening based on the value, not what we actually have. So everybody want this deal to close so they could get it to get. They cut.
- [40:20]
Fat Joe
Who the.
- [40:21]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
So you tell it, you get advised to do things that if you was advised a certain way, you might say, well, maybe I don't want to take the publishing deal. I may want to keep my publishing. And y' all keep that money.
- [40:35]
Jada
The way they describe it.
- [40:36]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah, the way they describe it to you, like, you almost got to take it, or you're not going to say no. You're just not aware of what's that. Long term, you know?
- [40:46]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah.
- [40:46]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
So once you start to grow and learn this whole. What this whole thing is all about, you have a lot more discernment. And then you. You start to catch these things. You read the contract, you learn more things. Here it is, Tommy boy. I mean, we was in an unprecedented situation where if a label folded, so did the bands, too. The group's gone, too.
- [41:06]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah.
- [41:06]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
We've been able to hold on and move on and do things and let alone do more partnerships. Why would I go back into an 89 deal? Why would he even present me a deal like that? How about it was already disrespectful even present a deal like that.
- [41:23]
Fat Joe
How about.
- [41:24]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
But I give him. I give him grace because that's what he knew. That's what he learned, and that's what they tried to continue, but you couldn't continue that with us.
- [41:34]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
And I'm sorry, man, I just want to say, like, yo, it's not even, like, so nefarious where it's like someone is trying to do wrong by you. Like, they actually think they're doing right by you.
- [41:47]
Jada
Right.
- [41:48]
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, man. Like, you know, that's my nigga.
- [41:51]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
I have a.
- [41:52]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
That's my nigga.
- [41:52]
Fat Joe
He didn't come to my back door. But that's. I have a mentor like that. I have a mentor. Many years later. His name was rest in peace, J.R. reidinger. He was a billionaire. He was a billionaire. He passed away. Well, he always told me that everybody has to make money in order for you to be successful. Everybody got to make money. Not work for you, not be beneath you, not be this. Everybody should be a business partner in A way. And since he taught me that, I've had no headaches. Everybody's happy. You pull up to my store, the nigga driving a Benz truck with Rolex on, everybody's happy. And that's how you eliminate that. The problem is these guys, they take advantage of you. No, what they do is, look, we can't bite the hand that feeds us. We should always salute the person who helped change our lives. Now, if they still fucking you 10 years later, 15 years later. So basically, the way the game is, they grab you young, you feel, and they feel like they doing you a favor if you're successful. As you're getting a little bit older, you're starting to learn the business.
- [43:01]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Right? But then don't get mad at me because I learned the business.
- [43:05]
Fat Joe
No, but that's going to happen to everybody.
- [43:06]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Don't get mad at me because I learned my value.
- [43:09]
Fat Joe
And so that's what's happening.
- [43:11]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
I'm getting mad at.
- [43:11]
Fat Joe
Still what I'm trying to explain on your side, you're learning the business, and they keep renegotiating after they making tons of money for you to get back to where it originally should have been.
- [43:23]
Jada
Fair.
- [43:24]
Fat Joe
So you always behind. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And then these guys, they live in extravagant lifestyles. They are fucking malleable. They are noble on the water. They this and this and that. And they eating off of our pain because our music is pain. So we, we out here telling our story, shit we went through, and they over here having a sweet life, you understand, and refuse to see that. Yo, maybe this my number one guy. Maybe I should make it fair. And even, like, I've never been like that. Fat Joe has never been like that. So, Fat Joe, if I have an artist recently, I had an artist maybe two, three years ago. Last artist I dealt with, right. Young lady, I might have spent a million and a half out my pocket. Cause I still think she should be a star, right? But when she told me, yo, Joe, you know, you too busy with podcasts and this and this and that, you know, I gave her papers in one second. I'm not the oppressor. I never understood the guy who was like, yo, you can't go nowhere. You can't this and this and that. It never been my style. So it's pretty, you know, disgusting that you guys had to fight like that. You know what I'm saying? So to say you have to throw a mountain on your back. Yeah.
- [44:40]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
I mean, they at one point was trying to do what they need to do in terms of, look I got this label back. I guess the intention all along was to have it acquired. So we were putting a wrench in it, being acquired without mess because we were arguing. But we was only trying to get what was fair. That's all.
- [44:59]
Fat Joe
We should have figured it out. No, no, not your fault. They should have figured it out. And to your. Your thing, I just did a deal, right? Don't want to brag about deals or whatever. And I'm gonna tell you a story, right? I don't owe nobody no money. Nobody. I don't owe nobody no money. And if I owe you money, you've been paid. If not, I don't know about it, but I did this deal, and they all made me sign like Fat Joe 2025 is a crackhead, that when I do the deal, they automatically get their money. They can't even let Fat Joe write the check to them or do the wire to him personally. They want that. Let it.
- [45:38]
Jada
Dick.
- [45:38]
Fat Joe
First off, Rip. They didn't connect. But I signed that. I don't have a problem. Oh, you want to get paid? No problem. You want to get paid? You want to get paid. You want to get paid. You deserve it. You deserve it. You put in work for the deal. But tell you the truth, in the back, you know more. My morals clause is Fat Joe. I felt a little crackhead ish, that, you know me, I ain't no bum. I've been around 30 years. I do business with everybody. But you want your money off Rip, like, direct to consumer. I was like, you know, I felt the little ways, you know what I'm saying? But it ain't nothing. But at the end of the day, they knew we want to sell this shit. It's worth hundred million dollars, 200 million. I give De La Soul, they shit and move on.
- [46:23]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Well, needless to say, Tommy Boyd sold the company to Reservoir Media, which they all bought. Tommy Boyd's problem and the problem that was with us, they worked out fairly.
- [46:36]
Fat Joe
Salute to them.
- [46:37]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, word up.
- [46:43]
Fat Joe
I got jerked for my publishing. The man gave me $50,000, told me, yo, you Latino like me. I'm gonna take care of you. Jelly Bean Benitez. Oh, man, the man never gave me a dollar on shit, motherfucker. Yeah. Yo, this guy, this the.
- [47:00]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
This nigga name come up crazy.
- [47:02]
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever the jerking story. I got a brother right now dealing with Jelly Bean. But he said, whoa, this motherfucker here. All right, go ahead. I did a deal where I had to find every nickel I had under the table stuck with gum Every. Every nickel. Am I lying, Rich? We spent a year and a half brain busting every. Yo, is Les straight? Is Young Lord straight? Is it, like, to do a deal? But this guy sells his shit for 100 million. This with no accounting, no nothing. I'm like. I'm like, how this man been jerking me for so long, and then he could say, sell the catalog, do all type of that. Just they won't allow us to do you. You understand what I'm saying? How do these people get. This is a delay. I'mma tell you something.
- [47:56]
Jada
For so long, which is sound.
- [47:58]
Fat Joe
It's a great.
- [47:59]
Jada
What the.
- [48:01]
Fat Joe
Holy moly. Sound effects, mate.
- [48:09]
Jada
What did he do?
- [48:11]
Fat Joe
Oh, can you give me a better description? Can you give me a better. You know. You want to know what's crazy is. Oh, yo, yo. I'm laughing like this at my house, for real. I can't even lie.
- [48:24]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
I'm watching these niggas at the crib. I'm laughing just like this.
- [48:27]
Fat Joe
Yo, yo, what is this? Yo, yo, yo. You all think it's on grip, Jada, I don't give a fuck, man. I love you fucking grip. I'm trying to protect us.
- [48:43]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
This is honest.
- [48:44]
Fat Joe
That is real. You giving. One time I get into a lawsuit with this guy. The people sued me had the nerve to think I'm cool with him. This guy jerked me for at least 12 to 15 million or something. He's a number one, but he's nowhere to be. He's nowhere right. I go online to the federal court. This is a lawsuit. And the man said he bought this toy. Standing behind me, he says, hey, Joe, I looked at this dude. I said, you said hi to me. Some of these guys are spineless where they don't even care.
- [49:25]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Nah, they don't.
- [49:25]
Fat Joe
They robbing you. They don't care. They'll look at you like, yo, this shit crazy. But the moral to the story is, you know, one day, this, this. Anyway, I can't even say that finally I got my shit back. Fifteen years later, whatever. But, you know, one day I'm in a restaurant and they tell me, that's jelly beans kids.
- [49:50]
Jada
Oh, not the kids.
- [49:51]
Fat Joe
Not the kids.
- [49:52]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Back.
- [49:53]
Jada
Don't hurt the kids. Not the kids.
- [49:56]
Fat Joe
Don't hurt at that. The devil in me was sitting there eating, looking like, I'm knowing that my kids sacrificed for those kids. Looking like Bippy Longstock. And they up here in some billion dollar restaurant. This, this, that. And they like, yeah, those is kids. I'm like, I had to really find God and seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom in that spot. Seek the kingdom back. I seek the kingdom on that one. And no, I'm not threatening nobody. I had nothing to do with that. But I'm just like, you gotta be very careful out here in these streets.
- [50:33]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah, you do, you do.
- [50:35]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
And it'll come back to you at some point.
- [50:36]
Fat Joe
Yeah, it come back sooner or later. You think a motherfucker. I think rob you. I'm watching this series on Murdoch, the lawyer from. He killed his family. You don't know about Murdoch? Murdoch, Murdoch and fucking. You better watch it on Hulu. Yo, this guy was a scumbag, Sean. I mean, like, he was a lawyer, yo, but listen, the man was representing a man in a wheelchair. Never walk again. He win this shit for 800,000, never pay him. He representing ladies that died and their families blind now. And this and all them lawsuits. He kept the bread. Eight hundred millions. Million. @ the end of the day when they come to him, guys fried this guy tried to kill his family for the insurance, like. And I do think he's walking around the prison now like, mm, like you, some people just as cold blooded, they don't give a fuck.
- [51:32]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
They don't.
- [51:33]
Fat Joe
That. That's nuts. Are we gonna get a Cabin in the sky tour?
- [51:38]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
I don't. I mean, we would love to.
- [51:40]
Jada
I mean, you know, one big show or something.
- [51:43]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely.
- [51:44]
Fat Joe
Because we just.
- [51:45]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
I think we could pull it off without question.
- [51:47]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
I mean, we're blessed to always have shows like this. Shows usually booked months and months ahead of time.
- [51:52]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
They had a release. The actual day of the release. We got a show in Vegas.
- [51:56]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, yeah, we're festival out there, but yeah, man, that can definitely happen.
- [52:01]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
You know, we should do a tour with groups.
- [52:04]
Jada
You know, we always talk with groups.
- [52:07]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
It's always been so, no, sorry, Joe. It's always been solo acts going out on the way.
- [52:12]
Fat Joe
You say sorry, Joe, because you ain't. He's not a gym. Now I got love for everybody.
- [52:15]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Well, as you bringing out drtc, we could do the group thing. You know what I'm saying? I set you up for that.
- [52:23]
Fat Joe
No, no, I'm with that. No, no, no, I'm with that. Okay. I have never said no to ditc. They say we making the album. I'm the first one in there working and following suit. You know, North Finesse is the captain of the shit. We run behind him. Whatever he say, yo, Joe, I need a hook here. You. This, this, this. We do what we do when it comes to digging in the crates, you know, it would be no Fat Joe. It wasn't for them. I don't give a fuck where I'm at, how big I am, how, whatever. Tell you the truth is the only thing that I ever been involved with in hip hop. There never been no. Our crew, we always loved each other, we always supported each other. But no, no, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, so that's like, you know what I mean? I would be down with that 1 million percent. That, that's a billion percent, you know, with all groups.
- [53:16]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
That'd be crazy.
- [53:16]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
You've seen that? Yeah, I've not seen that in a while.
- [53:19]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
I just love the seeing dudes who can, you know, regardless of the age or whatever, man, who know how to command a stage and do what they need to do. And all niggas sitting here know how to do that.
- [53:29]
Fat Joe
Like, I think, like, let me ask you something, right? Because I thought about this the other day. Other than Jay Z shout out to Roc Nation, we in the building.
- [53:39]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah.
- [53:40]
Fat Joe
Other than Jay Z, I even see Nas work, right? Could we ever just say, yo, we don't, we don't, we don't want to tour? Like, it's been a long time since I know what comes on at 7 o' clock on ABC, what comes on at 8 o' clock on ABC, 9 o' clock on ABC or something. Like, is there ever a time? Cause Smokey Robinson and them is 85. Patti LaBelle's 81.
- [54:03]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
We did a show.
- [54:05]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yeah, we did a joint recently.
- [54:07]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah, it was recently, yeah.
- [54:10]
Fat Joe
Yo, Rich, why you get up? What's your answer?
- [54:12]
Jada
Chicago.
- [54:12]
Fat Joe
We can never retire. No, no, no, no.
- [54:16]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Where Nelly's from St. Louis.
- [54:17]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
St. Louis? Yeah. With St. Louis? Yeah. We did a show with Patti LaBelle in St. Louis over somewhere.
- [54:22]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
I'm like, on that Free Spirit shit. George Clinton, like, I can rock until it's over. Like Rolling Stones in autumn. Like, I love just going to show age out. We got generations there.
- [54:33]
Jada
Like black don't crack.
- [54:34]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Cause when we rocked, when we first started, we were like 18 and they were like 30 years old. 30 year old people into like our music, you know what I'm saying? And 10 years old, you know what I'm saying?
- [54:46]
Fat Joe
10 years old.
- [54:46]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Now when we be at our shows, there's be generations there, you know what I'm saying?
- [54:51]
Fat Joe
I'm gonna tell you what's crazy. The other day I went to Katz Deli and I met a brother. He was like 70 years old. He was like, yo, I watch you grow up for some Reason I ain't know him. And I'm good with it, right? And the man starts showing me pictures of my Uncle Phao that passed away, my Aunt Barbara. So I knew he know the fam. So he was like, yo, I was there. You know, I'm from Washington, I'm from this, this, this. It's crazy because I'm 55 now. He was like, ain't too many going to come up to you and tell you how they watch you grow up. I watch you grow up. And I said, all right, man, thank you. This. I called my aunt immediately, you know what I'm saying? I called DD Barber. I was like, yo, I met this guy. This. He was like, he'll come up to me. Don't worry about it. This. Cause I didn't get his name. But it's crazy because I'm at the age now where people either gone on or they. The last thing they thinking about is Fat Joe, you know, somebody 75 or something who watched me grow up.
- [55:46]
Jada
If they hit, man, you lit, baby.
- [55:49]
Fat Joe
We not even talking. I'm not talking about that. What I'm saying is it's hard to find somebody watching. Grow up.
- [55:56]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Yeah.
- [55:58]
Fat Joe
Right now it's kind of bugged out.
- [56:01]
Jada
Bugging, man, huh? I want to hear some music. We got a chance.
- [56:05]
Fat Joe
I'm ready. It's De La Soul in this, man.
- [56:08]
Jada
Can we plug in and hear some exclusive.
- [56:10]
Fat Joe
You gotta play it loud.
- [56:12]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
James.
- [56:13]
Fat Joe
Yo, James. I brought your favorite guys to the show. You see, I ain't seen it. No, that won. His poster signed of 89. He won everything. Oh, that's good. Let's go. I'm with that. I thought about getting drunk recently.
- [56:31]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Word.
- [56:31]
Jada
Thought about it. Yeah.
- [56:32]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
You stop. You don't.
- [56:33]
Fat Joe
I just don't drink, man. But don't start. I don't drink, but I. I thought about getting drunk recently. I said, yo, maybe I should get.
- [56:41]
Jada
Let James open it.
- [56:43]
Fat Joe
James, love a good time. It's been a while since I've been high on the street. You know what I'm saying? Let me go touch that. You know when I. I used to get drunk and end up in people's cribs and like that. I don't give a. When I'm drunk, you could gas me into anything. They'd be like, yo, I be in house parties like, yo, Fat Joe, it's dangerous sitting up there on like, no, I'm telling you, it's not good for me.
- [57:08]
Jada
It's not safe to end up in the stranger's house drunk with a Pharaoh.
- [57:11]
Fat Joe
This is why I'm trying to tell you. Yo, that's just on that note. Ace of Spades. We're doing this for the great some friends.
- [57:20]
Jada
We doing this for the Cabin in the sky project. Make sure you get in all platforms. Don't stream it, buy it, you know what I mean?
- [57:29]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
We're gonna check out this joint. Run it back. It's featuring our brother, Nas. Nas did his thing on this. Produced my brother, Super Dave West.
- [57:39]
Fat Joe
Yeah.
- [57:39]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Nice. This is an ill one right here. Yeah, man.
- [57:43]
Fat Joe
Shout out to everybody who produced on the album.
- [57:48]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
- [57:50]
Fat Joe
Report, report everyone.
- [57:51]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Report poured in. That's right. It's magic. It's magic like the three, but yo, don't ever get a misconstrued when you see us coming through with them D colors Lyrically we run it all day.
- [58:02]
Fat Joe
So if you throw it to.
- [58:06]
Jada
D.
- [58:10]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Long Island, Long Island, Long Island, Long Island.
- [58:15]
Fat Joe
It's the verb of a team here to clean up the turf and the word for the dream is to change the regime and the lean that we lay with the words that we spray Be the way that we teach y' all to act Run it back with.
- [58:26]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
The palms with the dice and the.
- [58:28]
Fat Joe
Songs that we slice with the plate Earn the weight and the height and the qualms with the price with the men never mice when we own the device of the mic Never that couple.
- [58:37]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Rap when the line and the math are the signs that we make Be.
- [58:40]
Fat Joe
The cake that we stack on my.
- [58:42]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Ground I'm a one of a kind and the one from the vine of.
- [58:45]
Fat Joe
The grape where you heard I'm the cap man it's the thing that we.
- [58:49]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Hang around our neck like a chain it's the piece of the pain at the least it's the lane at my flow shuffle dying in the sound we.
- [58:55]
Fat Joe
The rock cocaine to the brain on the track overdue with the new when you beg for the brew that was stirred and we heard that you don't.
- [59:03]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Have a clue how it's made it's the boom to the bat like the full and the pay that barrage yo.
- [59:08]
Fat Joe
My run it back we the sons.
- [59:10]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Of the beat and we stay on.
- [59:11]
Fat Joe
Our toes of our feet Exposed to the car to the creek Cause our.
- [59:15]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Ears in the street and our minds.
- [59:17]
Fat Joe
In the stars Man, y' all know who we are Tux Attack, guess what I'm talking about county, we up in.
- [59:23]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Here, but we going to take it.
- [59:25]
Fat Joe
On over to Queens to my brothers.
- [59:27]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
In the bridge who's about to run.
- [59:29]
Fat Joe
It back right there.
- [59:34]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Hey, yo, yo, they go jumbo right there.
- [59:36]
Fat Joe
Hey yo, everybody get back everybody look out. Let go the God, let the God do. Let my brother do. Unspackable half of you laughable you won't be photographable if I have to run through half of your crew I'm only trying to get smarter like 5 percenters in Parliament hall and rep the bottom Running back, not the bottom like the bottle of snake wine with a snake still in it we sip and see if it takes time to feel it I'm speaking the building Ghetto 10 and Mr. Militant no suburban privileges Running back from a rap it's no wonder there three's the magic number Add me to that number that's four the fourth beats the fourth ZZ Top member the fourth Fuji who me? I fantasize musically when it's suitin me as wows as the 80s, 90s and thousands how it was sick, how did it slip? Now it's just doji dot and scissor with most powerful hits. Leon Thomas Shabuzzi with the country rap Only black artists on top of the chart. Something's whack. Running back not only loving on. Don't start with that. The problem hatched probably with Napster back in 99, in fact, was NAS deprived from getting diamondbacks? He cries inside about a never. He just runs it back. Yep.
- [60:34]
Jada
Ray.
- [60:36]
Fat Joe
Okay, everyone, I know your heartbeat is running fast after running it back, so let's slow it down. Ray, take a deep breath in. Now take a deep breath out.
- [60:53]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Is that.
- [60:54]
Fat Joe
What is that weed smoke I'm smelling?
- [60:57]
Jada
Yeah.
- [61:00]
Fat Joe
Anyway, let's prepare to take our mind to the next song. Salute, salutery and salutations. And don't forget the vocalization.
- [61:14]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
All right?
- [61:15]
Fat Joe
That's right.
- [61:16]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
That's.
- [61:17]
Fat Joe
Hey, matter of fact, that's.
- [61:20]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
That's Giancarlo Esposito on. On that.
- [61:23]
Fat Joe
Like he's.
- [61:23]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
He's talking throughout the top of the album. So it's dope that we got him on on the album.
- [61:27]
Fat Joe
Guys especially, man. You got, you know, comic game here. He was smoking some. You know. You guys got John Esposito on his. Be awesome, right?
- [61:48]
Jada
This ain't that, man.
- [61:49]
Fat Joe
This is the biggest in the game. Why would you even go to some Chicken McNugget spot? These ain't with us. You wasting your time. You gotta go to the next podcast. They're gonna be like, hey, what's your zodiac sign in 1952 get the out of here roof day. The out of here. You waste a year time with them guys. They ain't Got no motion, no tracks. Can I get my.
- [62:18]
Jada
Off my brother?
- [62:20]
Fat Joe
Oh, we love you. Laugh when I watch the show. I'll be talking that. But listen. Love you. Yo, Sean, you know you come. Hey, 93, you collaborate. Yo, shut the up, bro. Who are you? Are you valid? Are you lame? Let me go through your. If I go through De La Soul's track list, I'm not even gonna lie to you. I wouldn't have an argument with y' all if y' all came with the De La Soul podcast. What can I say? I watched you me coming in the game. But some of these guys, we don't even know who the fuck they is, and they criticizing top tier up. Well, I think Jay should have said this. Like, who are you? Like, get the fuck out of here. But in any way, this ain't that.
- [63:11]
Jada
Nah, that ain't this.
- [63:14]
Fat Joe
It's cracking. Kiss. God damn it.
- [63:16]
Jada
Make some noise for De La Soul.
- [63:20]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Love y', all, B. Thank you for having us.
- [63:24]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Yo, love y' all brothers, man.
- [63:25]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Love y' all dog.
- [63:26]
Fat Joe
Love y' all brothers back.
- [63:29]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
Peace.
- [63:29]
David Jude Jolicoeur (Dave)
Love you.
- [63:30]
Fat Joe
It's an honor. You guys are beyond legends. Your icon. There's legends, there's. You guys are like you gods, bro.
- [63:39]
Ryan Seacrest
You.
- [63:39]
Fat Joe
You guys are untouchable. Y' all look at y' all the same way. I know you guys. You guys are different. You guys, let us tell you what you are. You legend, you gods, you lords. We them legends with the legs. I hear you. They lost soul. Short by. Huh? You got two more times. Peace, y'.
- [64:05]
Vincent Mason (Posdnuos)
All.
- [64:06]
Fat Joe
De La.
- [64:18]
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- [64:47]
Fat Joe
When you own your own business, you own every decision. Catch the red eye or take the.
- [64:52]
Annabe Sofa Advertiser
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- [64:55]
Fat Joe
Celebrate a win with the toast at the gate or unwind at the lounge.
- [65:00]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [65:01]
Fat Joe
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Fat Joe
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Fat Joe
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