Podcast Summary: Joe and Jada – Fat Joe & Jadakiss Address Joe Talking Over Guests, French Montana's "All The Way Up" Story, & J. Cole

Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jadakiss

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In this episode, Fat Joe and Jadakiss respond openly to criticism that Joe talks over guests and dominates conversation. The duo dive into the realities of inflated numbers in entertainment, the J. Cole "Big Three" debate, selling music catalogs, NBA injuries, the story behind French Montana’s “All The Way Up,” and the importance of positivity in the hip-hop podcast game.

The conversation is candid, irreverent, and peppered with stories from their careers and personal lives, with both hosts embracing their signature chemistry and humor.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Addressing Criticism: Does Fat Joe Talk Too Much?

• Fat Joe admits he's heard fans and staff complain that he talks too much over guests or even Jadakiss.
  • "They say, Joe, you talk too much on the show." (00:00)
• Jadakiss confirms: Joe is known to cut people off, sometimes with the same stories.
  • "The problem is you cut me off and you cut me off while we trying to fix the problem." (21:53)
• Fat Joe defends his style:
  • He feels responsible for “driving” the podcast, especially because Jadakiss is less talkative by nature.
  • "I gotta drive this bitch... I felt like I gotta bring it out of you..." (23:24)
• They joke about making a Fat Joe “talks too much” highlight reel.
• Fat Joe sees storytelling and taking over as crucial to the show’s appeal, especially with reserved guests.
  • "Sometimes... I gotta tell a story to make them feel comfortable..." (25:08)
• He calls out podcast producers and external critics: "You get some white nigga from Seattle... want to tell a guy to stop talking... Who the fuck are you?" (27:47)
• Both hosts agree: their chemistry and unscripted style is why the show works.
  • "This shit is like a sitcom... People in tune. They're loving me." (25:40)

On Inflated Numbers and Industry Hype

• Fat Joe rails against the myth of exaggerated financial/streaming numbers in the industry.
  • "These inflated numbers. Why did I even think about that... is these numbers real?" (01:22)
  • Joe points out that he is visibly successful, yet hears industry rumors of others earning exponentially more, which often doesn't add up.
• Example: ASAP Rocky and a supposed million pre-saves.
  • Joe is skeptical: "For a motherfucker to move units like that, I gotta hear some shit on the radio all day." (03:23)
• Jadakiss acknowledges industry inflation: "But different, though. He different." (03:02)

The J. Cole "Big Three" Debate

• Jadakiss shouts out J. Cole’s upcoming mixtape and praises his bars.
  • "Shout out to J. Cole... He killed them shits." (03:44)
• Fat Joe challenges Cole's place among the "Big Three," given he didn’t respond to certain call-outs.
  • "They screwed his head off the Big Three. Is he in the Big Three?" (04:12)
• Joe compares Cole's "bowing out" to street codes and hip-hop credibility, using vivid analogies.
  • "If Fat Joe talking all that. Fat Joe the gangster. There's a video of me getting my face smacked off, you ain't going to hear Flo Joe the same." (09:14)
• Jadakiss disagrees, insists music is about quality over “coming outside” for beefs: "We come from all call outs... but I don't never mean he wasn't." (08:43)
• Recurring theme: authenticity, courage to respond, street vs. music reputations.

Selling Your Catalog – Music Industry Business

• Fat Joe brings up the wisdom (and necessity) of selling one's catalog for financial security.
  • "I want to secure that... If I die, I want to feel good... I left my family enough money." (05:20)
• Warns about industry vultures approaching families of deceased artists with lowball offers.
  • "It's gonna be an industry guy... I could get y'all 8 million... the shit really worth 30 million." (06:54)
• Jadakiss admits he contemplates selling every day, recognizes the logic.

NBA & Sports Chat

• Jalen Brunson's injury and its effect on the Knicks:
  Fat Joe gives an inside scoop from a Knicks doctor, suggesting it's not serious.
  • "He rolled his ankle with a few games." (10:23)
• Lighthearted debate over player backgrounds and NBA trends:
  • Discussion on African players in European squads, “imported” talent, Giannis’ loyalty to Milwaukee.

Hip-Hop Stories: Fetty Wap, French Montana, and More

• Fetty Wap's Return and Mistakes of Success:
  Fat Joe questions why a chart-topping artist would be in legal trouble for hustling when the music was “enough.”
  • "Who the fuck told Fetty Wap to even be in that type of situation with four number ones on earth?" (44:43)
• Fat Joe’s Own Loyalty Lessons:
  He describes how “friends” disappeared when he was broke and re-appeared in his VIP after his next hit.
  • "They all hanging out with me… Did I forgive them two times in a row when I went broke." (48:19–51:40)
• French Montana and “All The Way Up” Publishing:
  • French got publishing on the spot when Fat Joe realized he brought value to the record.
  • "I gotta give you your props and flowers for doing that type of business..." (52:18, Jadakiss)

The Podcast Game: Trying to Stay Positive

• Fat Joe and Jadakiss deliberately position their show as one of positivity and uplifting the culture, not chasing controversy like most hip-hop podcasts.
  • "Niggas want controversy... When you look at these podcasts, everybody's dissing your mother." (35:16)
  • "We are here to preserve the culture. We are here to give people flowers. We are here to do this positive..." (35:43)
• Fat Joe explains why it's difficult to avoid “the dirty section” (toxic online haters):
  • "They got me gay. They got me... I'm a thief. I'm a... You can't even begin... I've been called everything." (37:14)
  • They joke about not feeding into the negativity and "leaving the dirty section alone."
• Jadakiss' advice when Joe cuts off a guest:
  • "Just let them finish and then say the shit you think of. That's all we saying." (37:54)

Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Fat Joe on podcast critics:

  • "Who the fuck are you, nigga? We number one. You don't tell me what to do. It's impossible." (27:47)

• Fat Joe on storytelling:

  • "They call me one of the greatest storytellers of all time. My audience, my original audience, is my projects." (30:44)

• Fat Joe on loyalty and being let down:

  • "When you sitting on your couch dead broke... they staying away from you. We do Lean Back, I go for the same mistake. We number one. They all hanging out with me. They eating lobsters, they drinking champagne." (47:08)

• Jadakiss on music business etiquette:

  • "I did songs for mad people that blew out the water... They definitely not pulling out their phone, calling their lawyer right there, telling them, yo, give them 10%, 5%, 2%, whatever it is. So I gotta give you your props... for doing that type of business." (52:18)

• Fat Joe on mental health and grief:

  • "The safety you lose for losing loved ones is devastating... you have to find a way to look towards the light... Life moves on." (61:42)

Timestamps for Notable Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Fat Joe addresses "talking too much" criticism | | 01:22 | Discussion on inflated payout/streaming numbers in hip hop | | 03:44 | J. Cole shout-out & "Big Three" debate | | 05:16 | Catalog-selling and protecting your family | | 10:05 | Jalen Brunson injury, Knicks and NBA talk | | 19:21 | Teyana Taylor’s acting award win and her journey | | 21:48 | Does Fat Joe talk too much? Debate continues | | 25:36 | Podcast chemistry & why their energy matters | | 37:54 | Advice for letting guests finish before jumping in | | 44:43 | Fetty Wap: Why hustle with four #1 records? | | 52:18 | French Montana/"All The Way Up" business story | | 61:42 | Dealing with loss, depression, and staying positive | | 67:40 | Fat Joe & Jadakiss discuss ICE raids, America's political state| | 72:36 | Biggest breakups in hip-hop history |

Other Highlights

• NBA and sports banter (10:05–14:14, 42:33–44:37):
  Funny digressions about player injuries, where they're “really from,” family’s thermostat wars, and why Milwaukee is cold.
• Technology and Misinformation (59:23):
  Joking about AI-generated images and fake scandals, referencing Matt Barnes' rumored scam:
  • "Everything on there right now is AI. I don't know why niggas ain't winning Fed cases... Y'all fake my voice with AI."
• Politics (67:40):
  Extended uncensored take on current ICE operations and a divided America, referencing Joe Rogan’s influence on elections.

Tone and Language

The episode is true to the hosts’ personalities: loud, honest, street-savvy, braggadocios, and often hilarious. Both Joe and Jada bounce between topics organically, finish each other’s thoughts, trade jokes and flags, and never shy from speaking their minds.

Notable Playful Exchanges

• Fat Joe:
  “You blaming me for some shit you doing right now.” (23:24)
• Jadakiss (flagging Joe):
  “I’m cutting you off.” (23:36)
• Fat Joe (meta joke):
  “You want me to try one or two weeks not saying nothing. Fat Joe on the side like this.” (33:08)

Conclusion

This episode puts the Joe and Jada dynamic front and center—addressing criticism humorously but honestly, reflecting on the music and podcast industries’ highs and lows, and championing keeping it real. It’s a masterclass in hip-hop storytelling, authenticity, and camaraderie—and proof their “this ain’t your regular dinosaur podcast” formula has fans glued.

Final quote:
Fat Joe: "Biggest show in the game, man. Go yourselves if you don't like us." (75:52)