Joe and Jada Podcast

Episode: Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Bill Bellamy Tell HILARIOUS STORIES about Biggie, Michael Jackson & Eddie Murphy
Date: December 2, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Episode Overview

This episode of Joe and Jada bursts with behind-the-scenes stories, laughter, and sharp cultural commentary as Fat Joe, Jadakiss (Jada), and special guest, comedian Bill Bellamy, trade memorable tales from their intertwined careers in music, comedy, and film. The trio reminisces about wild industry moments, legendary geniuses like Biggie, Michael Jackson, and Eddie Murphy, and break down the evolution of Black entertainment throughout the ‘90s and early 2000s.

Main Themes and Discussion Points

1. Bill Bellamy’s Entry and Impact in Comedy (03:54–07:37)

• Bill’s Background:
  Bill discusses the origin of his last name and the working-class authenticity behind it, debunking any notion that he came from money.
  "It sounds like I already had money. I was broke as fuck." – Bill Bellamy (04:04)

• Golden Era of Comedy:
  Details his rise during the iconic early '90s comedy boom alongside Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence, Chris Tucker, Cedric the Entertainer, Bernie Mac, and others.
  "There'll never be another class better than us. We dream team." – Bill Bellamy (06:49)

• Relationship between Standup and Hip-Hop:
  Bill recalls how comedy and hip hop scenes were interconnected:
  "Standup was sort of like the brother and sister of hip hop. UCAS was coming to see us, we coming to see you." (05:47)

2. Martin Lawrence’s Genius and Underappreciation (08:26–10:46)

• Paying Respects to Martin Lawrence:
  The hosts and Bill agree Martin Lawrence was the best Def Comedy Jam host, yet often goes unrecognized for his influence.
  "There was nobody funnier than Martin Lawrence on Def Comedy Jam... He was so fat. Like, if you go back and watch the clips... iconic jokes that he set off." – Bill Bellamy (08:48–10:03)

• Improvisational Skills:
  Comparison to a freestyling rapper – Martin could riff off anything, relating stories straight from the hood, making them universal.

3. Social Media and Love in the Modern Age (12:00–13:38)

• Impact on Relationships:
  Fat Joe and Bill banter about how social media has complicated long-term relationships and privacy.
  "Social media killed love, man." – Fat Joe (12:00)
  "You could get it punished [by it]." – Bill Bellamy (12:05)

• Jokes About Phone Privacy:
  They riff on apps that could "blow up" or turn screens blue if anyone snoops—a metaphor for today’s digital trust issues.

4. Transitioning from Standup to Hollywood (13:38–18:06)

• Bill’s MTV Experience:
  Bill credits MTV for opening doors to film and stories about early roles in "Who's the Man" and the rise of hip-hop on TV.
  "That was huge… an explosion." – Bill Bellamy (13:47)

• Movie Roles and Typecasting:
  Fat Joe laments being typecast as a villain, never a chef or teacher, joking about always playing the killer.
  "Nobody wants me to be a chef, a school bus driver, nothing. It's always he's a mafia killer…" – Fat Joe (18:30)

5. Cultural Lexicon: Booty Call Origins (15:57–17:51)

• Creation of “Booty Call”:
  Bill shares how the iconic term came from a bit based on Mike Tyson’s infamous case, eventually becoming a cultural phenomenon, movie, and commercial ad fodder.
  "Booty Call came from a joke… I went on stage and I kept playing with it till I got it dialed in right. Boom. Took off life." – Bill Bellamy (15:57)

• Missed Opportunities:
  Bill reveals he turned down the Booty Call movie role to pursue dramatic acting in "Love Jones."

6. Hip-Hop Storytelling: One-Upmanship and Legendary Tales (19:20–23:10, 23:12–30:14)

• Fat Joe’s Storytelling Prowess:
  Joe expresses ambition to create a one-man show structured around true industry tales, inviting guests to try and top each other's stories.
  "I wanted to do... a one man show. It's all about stories in my life." – Fat Joe (19:41)

• Classic Industry Anecdotes:

  • Rick Ross “Fentanyl” story – Joe recounts Ross's dramatic monologue in the studio.
  • Bruno Mars story – Fat Joe’s comedic attempts to connect with Bruno due to their shared Puerto Rican heritage (21:43).

• Bill’s Notorious B.I.G. “Party & Bullshit” Story:
  Bill recalls emceeing one of Biggie's first concerts where a staged brawl onstage threw him into panic.
  "So 50 come on stage, and I'm thinking, it's a riot, but it's part of the song… I thought they start. They faked, have a fight…" – Bill Bellamy (23:57, 24:58)

7. Wild Encounters & Close Calls (25:13–29:02)

• Fat Joe Meets the Taliban in Lebanon:
  Comedic story about a show in Lebanon ending with an invitation to “shoot rockets” with the Taliban, and Joe’s ensuing panic.
  "The Taliban, they love you... The real Taliban shoot rockets with them. Came through, was like, yo, shoot rockets out of you, yo. I ran so fast to that airport." – Fat Joe (25:20–26:46)

• Biggie at Spring Break/Lake Havasu:
  Bill tells how Biggie, unable to swim, was terrified performing on a floating stage.
  "Nobody knows Big cannot swim… I don't know how they hypnotized him like the A Team to get big on that pod." – Bill Bellamy (27:28)

8. Legends’ Stories: Michael Jackson and Will Smith (29:03–39:13)

• Will Smith Meeting Michael Jackson:
  Fat Joe retells an Instagram story Will Smith told of hiding in a closet with Michael during a post-awards show riot.
  "He said it was Michael Jackson. They threw him in the same closet. He's like, hey, Will. Will turned around and was like, huh? He didn't even know what to say." – Fat Joe (29:03)

• Bill’s Experience Interviewing Michael Jackson:
  Bill shares high anxiety hosting MJ’s global video debut, describing intense security and the surreality of being the “guy in the middle of Times Square.”
  "Mike had to go to the bathroom… Security said, 'break it off, fam'. My man had to wipe his ass, get out." – Bill Bellamy (36:57–37:36)

• Fat Joe “Saving” Tommy Mottola:
  Fat Joe shares a hilarious, stressful moment of saving music mogul Tommy Mottola from choking during an upstate breakfast.
  "I was about to give him the hive… That motherfucker almost died in front of me." – Fat Joe (40:21–41:13)

  • The group's laughter at Joe’s detail, and Tommy’s reaction afterwards—encouraging Joe to tell the story—becomes a recurring joke.

9. Health, Family, and Privacy (49:01–55:13)

• Diabetes & Health Mishaps:
  Joe and Jada share personal and family stories about health scares, emphasizing the importance of managing chronic diseases and medicine adherence.
  "You gotta take your medicine. That's one of the biggest killers, is when people need—you're diabetic, but you still want to act like you're not diabetic." – Fat Joe (49:01–49:26)

• Protecting Love & Marriage:
  Bill cautions about sharing relationship woes on social media; group jokes about how reality TV or “divorce talk” among friends can destabilize marriages.
  "Keep your house private, bro. Once you start putting people in your house, they in your house." – Bill Bellamy (53:19)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I wanted my shit immediately. I remember when I first came in the game, I was like, fuck the weight, let's get it today." – Bill Bellamy on early hunger (05:47)
• "Martin Lawrence was like a rapper that could freestyle better than everybody…" – Bill Bellamy (09:40)
• "Booty Call came from a joke… I could not believe this shit. This shit was so hilarious." – Bill Bellamy & Fat Joe (15:57)
• "I wanted to do a stand up... a one man show. It's all about stories in my life." – Fat Joe (19:41)
• "Will Smith said... they threw him in a closet. He was in there with Michael Jackson!" – Fat Joe retelling Will Smith’s story (29:03)
• "Mike had to go to the bathroom… Security said, 'break it off, fam'." – Bill Bellamy, about Michael Jackson’s security clearing the restroom (37:01)
• "I was about to give him the hive… That motherfucker almost died in front me." – Fat Joe on Tommy Mottola (40:21)
• "Keep your house private, bro. Once you start putting people in your house, they in your house." – Bill Bellamy (53:19)

Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 03:54–07:37| Bill Bellamy’s comedy rise & NY comedy/hip-hop nexus | | 08:26–10:46| Martin Lawrence’s Def Comedy Jam impact | | 12:00–13:38| Social media & modern love relationships | | 13:38–18:06| Standup-to-Hollywood transitions; typecasting | | 15:57–17:51| "Booty Call" origin story | | 19:20–23:10| Fat Joe’s storytelling concept & music tales | | 23:12–24:58| Bill’s “Party & Bullshit” Biggie story | | 25:13–26:46| Fat Joe’s Lebanon/Taliban rocket tale | | 27:28–28:39| Biggie at Lake Havasu – can’t swim, floating stage | | 29:03–30:14| Will Smith’s MJ closet story (as retold by Fat Joe) | | 36:19–39:13| Bill Bellamy interviews Michael Jackson | | 40:21–41:13| Fat Joe saves Tommy Mottola from choking | | 49:01–51:15| The importance of health and managing diabetes | | 53:19–54:14| Social media’s negative effect on relationships | | 58:05–61:14| Eddie Murphy, "Raw" movie memories; closing energy |

Closing Notes

The energy throughout this episode is wild, nostalgic, and deeply comedic, blending reverence for the past with irreverent, rapid-fire banter. Storytelling is king—whether it’s the legend of “booty call," Biggie’s chaotic stage shows, nearly dying on pancakes with Tommy Mottola, or never quite meeting Michael Jackson, each story accentuates the unique intersection of hip hop, comedy, and Black culture. Bill Bellamy emerges a true comedic craftsman, Fat Joe a master storyteller, and Jada the dry-witted anchor.
Perfect for fans of both old-school hip-hop and comedy’s golden generation.