Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Bill Bellamy tell HILARIOUS STORIES about Biggie, Michael Jackson & Eddie Murphy

Summary

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Joe and Jada Podcast

Episode: Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Bill Bellamy Tell HILARIOUS STORIES about Biggie, Michael Jackson & Eddie Murphy
Date: December 2, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode of Joe and Jada bursts with behind-the-scenes stories, laughter, and sharp cultural commentary as Fat Joe, Jadakiss (Jada), and special guest, comedian Bill Bellamy, trade memorable tales from their intertwined careers in music, comedy, and film. The trio reminisces about wild industry moments, legendary geniuses like Biggie, Michael Jackson, and Eddie Murphy, and break down the evolution of Black entertainment throughout the ‘90s and early 2000s.

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Main Themes and Discussion Points

1. Bill Bellamy’s Entry and Impact in Comedy (03:54–07:37)

• Bill’s Background:
  Bill discusses the origin of his last name and the working-class authenticity behind it, debunking any notion that he came from money.
  "It sounds like I already had money. I was broke as fuck." – Bill Bellamy (04:04)

• Golden Era of Comedy:
  Details his rise during the iconic early '90s comedy boom alongside Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence, Chris Tucker, Cedric the Entertainer, Bernie Mac, and others.
  "There'll never be another class better than us. We dream team." – Bill Bellamy (06:49)

• Relationship between Standup and Hip-Hop:
  Bill recalls how comedy and hip hop scenes were interconnected:
  "Standup was sort of like the brother and sister of hip hop. UCAS was coming to see us, we coming to see you." (05:47)

2. Martin Lawrence’s Genius and Underappreciation (08:26–10:46)

• Paying Respects to Martin Lawrence:
  The hosts and Bill agree Martin Lawrence was the best Def Comedy Jam host, yet often goes unrecognized for his influence.
  "There was nobody funnier than Martin Lawrence on Def Comedy Jam... He was so fat. Like, if you go back and watch the clips... iconic jokes that he set off." – Bill Bellamy (08:48–10:03)

• Improvisational Skills:
  Comparison to a freestyling rapper – Martin could riff off anything, relating stories straight from the hood, making them universal.

3. Social Media and Love in the Modern Age (12:00–13:38)

• Impact on Relationships:
  Fat Joe and Bill banter about how social media has complicated long-term relationships and privacy.
  "Social media killed love, man." – Fat Joe (12:00)
  "You could get it punished [by it]." – Bill Bellamy (12:05)

• Jokes About Phone Privacy:
  They riff on apps that could "blow up" or turn screens blue if anyone snoops—a metaphor for today’s digital trust issues.

4. Transitioning from Standup to Hollywood (13:38–18:06)

• Bill’s MTV Experience:
  Bill credits MTV for opening doors to film and stories about early roles in "Who's the Man" and the rise of hip-hop on TV.
  "That was huge… an explosion." – Bill Bellamy (13:47)

• Movie Roles and Typecasting:
  Fat Joe laments being typecast as a villain, never a chef or teacher, joking about always playing the killer.
  "Nobody wants me to be a chef, a school bus driver, nothing. It's always he's a mafia killer…" – Fat Joe (18:30)

5. Cultural Lexicon: Booty Call Origins (15:57–17:51)

• Creation of “Booty Call”:
  Bill shares how the iconic term came from a bit based on Mike Tyson’s infamous case, eventually becoming a cultural phenomenon, movie, and commercial ad fodder.
  "Booty Call came from a joke… I went on stage and I kept playing with it till I got it dialed in right. Boom. Took off life." – Bill Bellamy (15:57)

• Missed Opportunities:
  Bill reveals he turned down the Booty Call movie role to pursue dramatic acting in "Love Jones."

6. Hip-Hop Storytelling: One-Upmanship and Legendary Tales (19:20–23:10, 23:12–30:14)

• Fat Joe’s Storytelling Prowess:
  Joe expresses ambition to create a one-man show structured around true industry tales, inviting guests to try and top each other's stories.
  "I wanted to do... a one man show. It's all about stories in my life." – Fat Joe (19:41)

• Classic Industry Anecdotes:

  • Rick Ross “Fentanyl” story – Joe recounts Ross's dramatic monologue in the studio.
  • Bruno Mars story – Fat Joe’s comedic attempts to connect with Bruno due to their shared Puerto Rican heritage (21:43).

• Bill’s Notorious B.I.G. “Party & Bullshit” Story:
  Bill recalls emceeing one of Biggie's first concerts where a staged brawl onstage threw him into panic.
  "So 50 come on stage, and I'm thinking, it's a riot, but it's part of the song… I thought they start. They faked, have a fight…" – Bill Bellamy (23:57, 24:58)

7. Wild Encounters & Close Calls (25:13–29:02)

• Fat Joe Meets the Taliban in Lebanon:
  Comedic story about a show in Lebanon ending with an invitation to “shoot rockets” with the Taliban, and Joe’s ensuing panic.
  "The Taliban, they love you... The real Taliban shoot rockets with them. Came through, was like, yo, shoot rockets out of you, yo. I ran so fast to that airport." – Fat Joe (25:20–26:46)

• Biggie at Spring Break/Lake Havasu:
  Bill tells how Biggie, unable to swim, was terrified performing on a floating stage.
  "Nobody knows Big cannot swim… I don't know how they hypnotized him like the A Team to get big on that pod." – Bill Bellamy (27:28)

8. Legends’ Stories: Michael Jackson and Will Smith (29:03–39:13)

• Will Smith Meeting Michael Jackson:
  Fat Joe retells an Instagram story Will Smith told of hiding in a closet with Michael during a post-awards show riot.
  "He said it was Michael Jackson. They threw him in the same closet. He's like, hey, Will. Will turned around and was like, huh? He didn't even know what to say." – Fat Joe (29:03)

• Bill’s Experience Interviewing Michael Jackson:
  Bill shares high anxiety hosting MJ’s global video debut, describing intense security and the surreality of being the “guy in the middle of Times Square.”
  "Mike had to go to the bathroom… Security said, 'break it off, fam'. My man had to wipe his ass, get out." – Bill Bellamy (36:57–37:36)

• Fat Joe “Saving” Tommy Mottola:
  Fat Joe shares a hilarious, stressful moment of saving music mogul Tommy Mottola from choking during an upstate breakfast.
  "I was about to give him the hive… That motherfucker almost died in front of me." – Fat Joe (40:21–41:13)

  • The group's laughter at Joe’s detail, and Tommy’s reaction afterwards—encouraging Joe to tell the story—becomes a recurring joke.

9. Health, Family, and Privacy (49:01–55:13)

• Diabetes & Health Mishaps:
  Joe and Jada share personal and family stories about health scares, emphasizing the importance of managing chronic diseases and medicine adherence.
  "You gotta take your medicine. That's one of the biggest killers, is when people need—you're diabetic, but you still want to act like you're not diabetic." – Fat Joe (49:01–49:26)

• Protecting Love & Marriage:
  Bill cautions about sharing relationship woes on social media; group jokes about how reality TV or “divorce talk” among friends can destabilize marriages.
  "Keep your house private, bro. Once you start putting people in your house, they in your house." – Bill Bellamy (53:19)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I wanted my shit immediately. I remember when I first came in the game, I was like, fuck the weight, let's get it today." – Bill Bellamy on early hunger (05:47)
• "Martin Lawrence was like a rapper that could freestyle better than everybody…" – Bill Bellamy (09:40)
• "Booty Call came from a joke… I could not believe this shit. This shit was so hilarious." – Bill Bellamy & Fat Joe (15:57)
• "I wanted to do a stand up... a one man show. It's all about stories in my life." – Fat Joe (19:41)
• "Will Smith said... they threw him in a closet. He was in there with Michael Jackson!" – Fat Joe retelling Will Smith’s story (29:03)
• "Mike had to go to the bathroom… Security said, 'break it off, fam'." – Bill Bellamy, about Michael Jackson’s security clearing the restroom (37:01)
• "I was about to give him the hive… That motherfucker almost died in front me." – Fat Joe on Tommy Mottola (40:21)
• "Keep your house private, bro. Once you start putting people in your house, they in your house." – Bill Bellamy (53:19)

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 03:54–07:37| Bill Bellamy’s comedy rise & NY comedy/hip-hop nexus | | 08:26–10:46| Martin Lawrence’s Def Comedy Jam impact | | 12:00–13:38| Social media & modern love relationships | | 13:38–18:06| Standup-to-Hollywood transitions; typecasting | | 15:57–17:51| "Booty Call" origin story | | 19:20–23:10| Fat Joe’s storytelling concept & music tales | | 23:12–24:58| Bill’s “Party & Bullshit” Biggie story | | 25:13–26:46| Fat Joe’s Lebanon/Taliban rocket tale | | 27:28–28:39| Biggie at Lake Havasu – can’t swim, floating stage | | 29:03–30:14| Will Smith’s MJ closet story (as retold by Fat Joe) | | 36:19–39:13| Bill Bellamy interviews Michael Jackson | | 40:21–41:13| Fat Joe saves Tommy Mottola from choking | | 49:01–51:15| The importance of health and managing diabetes | | 53:19–54:14| Social media’s negative effect on relationships | | 58:05–61:14| Eddie Murphy, "Raw" movie memories; closing energy |

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Closing Notes

The energy throughout this episode is wild, nostalgic, and deeply comedic, blending reverence for the past with irreverent, rapid-fire banter. Storytelling is king—whether it’s the legend of “booty call," Biggie’s chaotic stage shows, nearly dying on pancakes with Tommy Mottola, or never quite meeting Michael Jackson, each story accentuates the unique intersection of hip hop, comedy, and Black culture. Bill Bellamy emerges a true comedic craftsman, Fat Joe a master storyteller, and Jada the dry-witted anchor.
Perfect for fans of both old-school hip-hop and comedy’s golden generation.

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Transcript

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[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

This is funny, bro.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

What up, y'?

[Fat Joe]

All? This is Joe Crack the Dawn.

[Joe Budden]

You know who it is. Your boy Jada. This the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. When you think of today's guest, you think of funny. You think it's some of the best haircuts ever. You think of some of your best movies. Come. You think of the box office, you think of standup, you think of my early career. VJs. MTV was very inspirational and influential to your career if you can make it on there. Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, let's make some noise for Bill Bellamy.

[Bill Bellamy]

Thank you for having me. I'm in here, Joe.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, how you get a last name like Bellamy?

[Bill Bellamy]

It's just. It just worked out.

[Joe Budden]

You're already rich.

[Bill Bellamy]

It sounds like it. Sound like I already had money. I was broke as fuck.

[Fat Joe]

Bill Bellamy.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo. He's here?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, he's here in Newark, New Jersey?

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah. People used to say, is that your real name? I was like, yeah, cuz. I'm actually William. But William sound too formal, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, bill Bellamy.

[Joe Budden]

The two B's, it was good.

[Bill Bellamy]

It goes good.

[Fat Joe]

It's the same. So my man Billy, though, you switch.

[Joe Budden]

It to Will, like.

[Bill Bellamy]

Sir William.

[Fat Joe]

My man Billy Blanco, his name in Spanish is Guillermo.

[Commercial Announcer]

Willie.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah. Guo.

[Fat Joe]

Guillermo in Spanish is William. You know, I mean, that's not about it. You got boy Billy Blanco, man. That boy, you know, he was with the high school teacher. She be like, Guillermo. One day we had a house party, she popped up with him. I said, damn, he taking the teacher down. What? My man Billy Blanco, many years ago.

[Bill Bellamy]

He got some grown booty, huh?

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

With the teacher.

[Fat Joe]

With the teacher at the house party. We all up in the house party. He got the teacher with him. Nah.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, I ain't never had down early. He did his number.

[Joe Budden]

That's numbers.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Bill Bellamy. What's up, beloved?

[Bill Bellamy]

You look great. Thank you, man.

[Fat Joe]

I love to see. I love to see. You know, our OG's looking great.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, man, I work out, I take care of myself. I laugh all the time, you know what I'm saying? I'm always enjoying that part of my life. And I'm doing what I want to do, man. You know what I'm saying? We at that point, like you said, og, we got the experience and the talent, which means now we can move the way we want to move.

[Fat Joe]

It's sad. Cause we want everything early, but they Always tell you, as you get older, you figure it out.

[Bill Bellamy]

I wanted my shit immediately. I remember when I first came in the game, I was like, fuck the weight, let's get it today. I'll never Forget, it was 91, 92. I'm in New York, I live in Jersey. I'm coming over here doing stand up and shit, just trying to get on. This is when hip hop was popping. 91, 92 cats. We had record labels, people was like, you know, everybody was pushing their records. You know, you had your street teams. This is like vintage 90, hip hop era. And so standup was sort of like the brother and sister of hip hop. UCAS was coming to see us, we coming to see you. Everybody know everybody. And it was just one of those amazing times for me. And I just happened to get lucky to be in the right place and just get on, like, just, you know, be funny enough, having the right swag, had the right gear, you know what I mean? And then be on point. On Def Comedy, who would you say is your.

[Fat Joe]

Who are some other comedians that came out?

[Bill Bellamy]

I got the best class ever, Joe.

[Fat Joe]

I want to know ever.

[Bill Bellamy]

There'll never be another class better than us. We dream team. You got a figure like 90, 91, 92. Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence, Chris Tucker, Chris Rock. Listen, it don't stop. Cedric the Entertainer, Steve Harvey, Dave Chappelle, like, I mean, just Joe, Tory, like, it just DL. It's just like all of us came out. It was like so many funny. Bernie Mac, come on. That's the funniest people I ever seen in my life. Like Tommy Davidson, like, just think, I just had an interview a couple days ago and we was talking about there will never be a time where that many people were able to become stars. A lot of people became TV stars. We had all them sitcoms.

[Fat Joe]

Would you cross the paths with like Jim. Jim Carrey?

[Bill Bellamy]

See, I didn't, I didn't grow up. Jim Carrey was on fire though. But he was in. He was on the west. West coast. The only person I met back then was Damon. So I met Damon in the early part of my career.

[Fat Joe]

They was on the West Coast.

[Bill Bellamy]

They was on. But that's from New York.

[Fat Joe]

But they was.

[Bill Bellamy]

But yeah, they was already. Because I remember auditioning for In Living Color, like, yo, this is show they gonna about to do on Fox. It's gonna be nuts. It's gonna be the real Saturday Night Live. That's what the. That's what the word was at the time. And so I didn't get that Jamie Foxx was selected to do that, and Tommy Davison and Jim Carrey, and that show was phenomenal. That's all names. So you got Martin, you had Jamie, you had In Living Color. I know I'm forgetting some of the shows, but they were all on at one time.

[Fat Joe]

I heard you in the interview say that Martin Lawrence was the best Def Jam comedy host ever.

[Bill Bellamy]

Ever.

[Fat Joe]

Do we think he gets his props or is it that he's just so, like. Cause he feels like an introvert when it comes to interviews and all that? Like, do we feel like Martin gets his props like he deserves?

[Bill Bellamy]

I don't think. I don't think people give Martin Lawrence his flowers the way they should. Because let me tell you something. There was nobody funnier than Martin Lawrence on Def Comedy Jam. Like, if two comics was in a car crash, you wouldn't be mad if Martin was hosting. Cause he gonna carry it. And the way he was hitting the audience and freestyling like it was vintage Martin Lawrence. Like, I mean, I enjoyed him immensely watching him just be natural. I didn't know Martin Lawrence was that funny. I was like, God damn.

[Fat Joe]

You know, Martin Lawrence was almost like your man. Like, you know, you got a boy that's mad funny. Yeah, he became a store a comedian or nothing like that, but he was just dumb funny. But the guy put it on tv, right? Like, everything he was saying was like, shit that we go through in the hood every day.

[Bill Bellamy]

But it looked like it was off the head. Like, to me, I felt like Martin Lawrence was like a rapper that could freestyle better than everybody. You know what I mean? Like, he could just go in the studio and be like, bam, bam. He don't need to write it down. You be like, damn, how you think of that? To me, that's how Martin was. He was so fat. Like, if you go back and watch the clips and Big Bird, like, he has iconic jokes that he set off.

[Fat Joe]

He a good liar.

[Bill Bellamy]

I mean, he tore up hidden play up. It's true.

[Fat Joe]

Because you, you know, when the cops stop you, sir, I was over there then. What are you talking about? You were like, damn, this could lie. Like on a impulse, like, you know, oh, your wife catch you doing some. You know, who's Burger King?

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, my God.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

You know what I'm saying? Who's Burger King calling you at three in the morning.

[Fat Joe]

What you looking at? Oh, I was looking at watches and graffiti. The new sneakers.

[Joe Budden]

Watches, they graffiti.

[Fat Joe]

Don't let them see the Explorer. God damn it. That algorithm out explore Pace or don't let them see that. You see that? My graffiti hip hop grandmaster flat like, you better be ready for that.

[Bill Bellamy]

You got to have a dummy. A dummy pants.

[Joe Budden]

Got to have a dummy Explorer.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, you got to have a dummy. So he's show his wife, he hit the phone. House paint, you know, nature's best.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

You know, roofing, you fix French.

[Fat Joe]

People are making these breads now, Ma. Like, this is a. Incredible. It's incredible. See this? Yeah, out there. You switch that up, that shit'll be like, they used to trap on Wednesday. You switch that bread up, bam. One time, that shit be like, booby trap Wednesday.

[Bill Bellamy]

They used to have that. Like when. When laptops first came out, like when you was working in a cubicle and you was doing something that you was supposed to do, you had that dummy screen to come down when your boss come over. We need that on our phone.

[Joe Budden]

The stock market comes.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, we need that. That's the new app, guys. Whoever fucking with the AI and all that, that's the shit you need to do.

[Bill Bellamy]

You just made me think of something funny. You know what they should do? Like, for. For chicks who go on dude's phone, the phone should blow up. You just have blue stuff all over your face.

[Joe Budden]

That's cool. Like the money for the bank.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like. Like, it's like if your girl go on your phone, they take a picture and blow up.

[Commercial Announcer]

Boom.

[Bill Bellamy]

So you come downstairs, she's sitting there with a whole blue face. Would you. In my phone? No.

[Fat Joe]

Social media killed love, man.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, social media is tough.

[Fat Joe]

Social media killed love.

[Bill Bellamy]

You could get it punished.

[Joe Budden]

It. It didn't kill it.

[Bill Bellamy]

What it did was.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, it killed love.

[Bill Bellamy]

You think twice.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, because every time you feel. I'm like, damn, Bill Bellamy, he been with his wife so long, then that shit come in the middle. Did the scribble in the middle, that comes out glass.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Breaking news, she'd be like, bro, ah.

[Bill Bellamy]

I've been married 24 years. It is no joke how many people broke up in 24 years?

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, that's crazy.

[Bill Bellamy]

I mean, I remember I got married in 2001, right? People who were going out dating, they've been together forever. They got married the same summer, and they was broke up in the fall. Like, that's how crazy I was. Like, yo, so when you in Hollywood and you living, you trying to do your career, you're trying to do everything, you don't have no, like, positive, like, you say you don't have any positive, like, oh, man, they could Go to the movies with us. No, they don't talk no more, you.

[Fat Joe]

Know, but people crazy little Hollywood, Everybody each other. Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

And then they only like each other.

[Fat Joe]

And the family tree is a cousin. Is. This shit is out of control.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, it's out. It's out of control.

[Joe Budden]

Family tree is cousin.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, you ever seen seen? You ever seen the family trees when they do that? Yo, God bless everybody, man. I don't wish that When I tell you, boy, the family tree, they'd be like, this one slept with this one and the kid is from this, this and everybody.

[Joe Budden]

A couple of shits that come down.

[Fat Joe]

Them shits is everybody's cousins.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Like everybody's a cousin. Yeah, that shit crazy.

[Joe Budden]

How hard is it making the transition from stand up and then, boom, you on the big screen, you doing lead roles.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, it was crazy, man, because, you know, things happened kind of fast for me. So I like. I got on. I got on mtv. That was huge. Cause at that time, you know, that helped that wave of hip hop. We started selling records like crazy cats going on tour. Me, you, you, Naughty Queen Latifah. All the cats that was coming up at that time, you know, it was an explosion. And I remember sitting there on my show going, man, I'm interview with all these movie stars. I wanna be a movie star. That looks so fly. Like, they got their movie premiere, they got this stuff going on. So I had aspirations. I was like, one day somebody gonna interview me. You know what I'm saying? And so next thing you know, I got a little small role in who's the Man? I was in who's the Man? Yeah, I know it was the most hip hop people would ever.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, you know, Joe got a nice.

[Bill Bellamy]

Little resume on the low.

[Fat Joe]

It was a half a cheekbone.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, they cut half of Joe head.

[Fat Joe]

On half of my cheekbone.

[Bill Bellamy]

You just see Joe here in the barbershop.

[Fat Joe]

Fat Joe, yo, what'? This was like. It was a big look. Yeah, I think of one of the.

[Joe Budden]

Funniest movies was a big look.

[Fat Joe]

That's a big look.

[Bill Bellamy]

When you.

[Fat Joe]

Nobody, you coming in the game and naughty by nature in there. This one and that one, that lover, Dr. Dre, Nick. Half a cheekbone. I was 136. I was shown here and I think another movie. I like it like that. I played like a prisoner. They had, like, my eyebrows and shit. I said, they gonna see it was what they should have showed my face because I became a big dog in the game. Yeah, you look. That's that value. It would have aged well. Fat Joe in that. Yo, let me tell you something. I don't get high, okay? But one of my most poor out of body experiences was that where I felt I was high was in the movie Booty Call. I could not believe this shit. This shit was so hilarious. I must have watched this shit 30,000 times, and every time got funnier and funnier and funnier. You knew that shit was gonna be crazy.

[Bill Bellamy]

No, no, no, no. Because here's the thing. Booty Call came from a joke. Like, I did not know that booty Call was gonna be something that's just gonna stick this 30 years ago, bro. Like, that's insane. Like, I did the first time I did the joke in Harlem. And the joke came from Mike Tyson. Cause if you remember, Mike Tyson got caught up in Indiana. So I read the article when Mike was like. I just asked her to come to the room for a second. We was talking, and I'm like, at 3 in the morning? And she missed Indiana. That's a booty call, right? I said it just like that. And I said, oh, shit, I'm onto something. I went on stage and I kept playing with it till I got it dialed in right. Boom. Took off life. Crazy movie, comedy, Taco Bell commercials, foodie call. I seen this on Friends. I seen people say it on. They jacked the. Out of me.

[Fat Joe]

They were. What about the.

[Bill Bellamy]

I did not. Jada.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, we never fattened. But what about the yesterday's pricing, today's price? I watched bank conversions, Dudes dancing and all that. And then I was like, yo, could we sue? We got sue, everybody. It was like, no, you don't have it. You know, you don't have that pattern. But the scene with the. The Reynolds rap or the plastic. What the.

[Bill Bellamy]

That was. That was. That was with Jamie. That was with Jamie and Tommy Davidson, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

So I didn't do. I didn't do the movie. They did the movie. You came up with the term booty? I came with the term. And then what happened? I was supposed to do that movie. I chose to do Love Jones. I had just did a comedy special called Booty Call. Then the movie came out, Booty Call. And I said, I want to be a dramatic actor. So I said, I'm a jump off in this movie with these real actors to kind of flip it. And that's why I wasn't in that movie. But I was offered that movie.

[Fat Joe]

That's almost like being a Disney star.

[Joe Budden]

But how to Be a Player was still that Was my shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

But how to be a Player, that was good. So I went zigzag. So I went dramatic. Hollywood came back then came back with, with how to be a Player. So that was like 95ish. That was dope.

[Fat Joe]

They ain't stereotype you and just make you like. Like Fat Joe. Always been a killer in every movie. Even if what's the chase? You saw me in night school, I'm beating a guy up, stabbing them. And with comedians, it's like they always want me to kill somebody.

[Bill Bellamy]

Your voice. But I can see you as a good chef. I was a conductor, I could see you as a chef.

[Fat Joe]

Nobody wants me to be a chef, a school bus driver, nothing. It's always, he's a mafia killer, something. He's a criminal, he's a dis. I can't shake this.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, if you was a school teacher, you'd still be a killer.

[Joe Budden]

You got to be willing to wear the different haircuts like Samuel.

[Bill Bellamy]

You gotta throw a Mexican dude that.

[Fat Joe]

Every role, he's victor, he kills somebody. You said I you, man. What, what's the, what's his training dream? I, you what? What's the training day? The Mexican guys, they. You ever heard your pushed in on me? I'm like the New York. You ever had your pushed in more, homie? Always. Guess what, Joe, we got a role for you. What's that? You're a drug dealer killer. Oh, really? An assassin as well. Thank you.

[Bill Bellamy]

Thank you very much.

[Fat Joe]

10 toes down. 10 toes down. That crazy. You know, he called me the greatest storyteller in here.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yes, sir. Hold up. You got some stories, Joe, man, I'll.

[Fat Joe]

Tell you who could take me out. See, so I wanted to do and still want to do.

[Joe Budden]

I'll tell you, you could take you out Barber Walt.

[Fat Joe]

No, I want to do a stand up. Not a stand up, a one man show. Oh yeah, it's all about stories in my life. I had a segment of it which somebody's gonna steal now when they hear this, where I would take. If Bill Bellamy was in attendance, I'd be like, yo, Bill, come up here, tell your Ella's story. And after you finish, I gotta come with a better one. So I had like Nori on the list. I had Irv Gotti rest in peace on the list. All the greatest storytellers. And I was gonna go like, they tell a story like Rick Ross. Yo, Rick Ross came to the studio one time, he had just had that heart scare. He had something with his heart, right? And for Some reason he called us. And the first place he wanted to come was cool and Dre. I don't know why. So he shows up and we're chilling, and we just.

[Joe Budden]

There.

[Fat Joe]

And he just goes, fentanyl. You touch it. I don't understand. From the jungles of Mexico. Maybe Sentinel plastic ain't enough. You smell through the plastic. You hide. I'm trying to. The minute that man stop, I said, sample, sample, sample. He looked at me like, oh, shit. I said, sample. I said, yo, it's like 88. We used to walk down the block and tell the dolphin, sample, sample, sample. They come and I throw it in the air, and they'll dive like pigeons, y'. All. I don't know why I try to one up everybody in every story ever.

[Bill Bellamy]

Criminal Joe, I don't know. I think you are one of the greatest storytellers. Cause you just been in this shit so long and you got good stuff. You got.

[Joe Budden]

Isn't it about timing?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, it is.

[Bill Bellamy]

But you gotta think, Joe. For hip hop, Joe been around every single person.

[Joe Budden]

You need a cabin with a fireplace, with a flannel, with snow outside. Yo, just telling hip hop and gangster stories.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, yo, yo, the one that had me in tears when you said you wanted to meet Bruno Mars because you heard he was Puerto Rican.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, that had me producing this last night at the Harbor View. He ain't want the ball fee. Like, he didn't want it. He knew it. He ain't want that. But that Bruno Mars crazy, huh?

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, Bruno Mars is so funny because I didn't see the punchline coming. I'm thinking, Bruno Mars, Filipino. Like, I'm in la. I thought Bruno Mars is Filipino. I did not know he was 1000% Puerto Rican.

[Fat Joe]

He was both.

[Bill Bellamy]

He both. Okay.

[Fat Joe]

But I didn't know he was more.

[Joe Budden]

The other one because he didn't give you no love. But ain't quad.

[Fat Joe]

Fuck. I think we did something. I think we did something to his dad or somebody in a relative who were very bad guys.

[Commercial Announcer]

Talk to him.

[Joe Budden]

They beat up his father.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know the lies. I would go to. I would go to White Castle, somebody say something. I said, smack his cheek off. Like in the Two in the Morning, everybody waiting for White Castle. I turn around and finish the onion rings trying to hit me with the yellow he flag. But my point is the way he reacted. I said, we must have somebody. Did terrorist cross a pig? But you know. But yeah, that's one of them.

[Bill Bellamy]

I got it.

[Joe Budden]

So you said.

[Fat Joe]

You said you want me to Tell.

[Bill Bellamy]

You a crazy story.

[Fat Joe]

I need a straw.

[Bill Bellamy]

I need a straw. I got one for you. I don't know. I don't think I ever told this one. So I'm brand new. I'm coming up in a game. I'm on mtb. So I'm hosting this, like, showcase. Puff is there. I don't know Big yet. Big is brand new. I want to say it's Webster hall, but I'm not sure where it's at. So Puff comes up to me, and I'm hosting a joint. He's like, yo, man, this is when they was calling them Notorious B. I G. He wasn't Biggie yet. He was just Notorious BIG and something legally came. He couldn't say that name. He had to become Biggie. Whatever. Case in point, he switched Biggie to Notorious, right?

[Fat Joe]

He was Biggie first.

[Bill Bellamy]

He was Biggie first.

[Fat Joe]

Any Swiss and Notorious B. I G, you with me?

[Bill Bellamy]

All right. That's where we at. So, you know, when you host and they come up with you with a little bit of, you know, information, they write it down and say, this is my man. New artist right here. You know, make sure the shit gonna get crazy, but don't bug out. Gonna get crazy, but don't bug out. So I don't know that Big got this song called partying bullshit. And so 50 come on stage, and I'm thinking, it's a riot, but it's a part of the song. And so I'm hosting, and I'm about to give it up.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he thought it went. He thought it popped.

[Bill Bellamy]

Did you run out the back door?

[Fat Joe]

Did you run out the back door?

[Bill Bellamy]

No, but I. It was so crazy because I was like, yo, what the. I'm hosting it. It's a Rio. And they was, like, throwing each other around and pushing this shit party and bullshit. And I'm like, yo, this is bullshit. Cause I'm about to die like a motherfucker, right? And then after the song was on, everybody left. But in that moment, it was like a mosh pit. Did you ever see that live? I thought they start.

[Joe Budden]

They faked, have a fight, and then the song comes back. Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

And they had it in the movie. But the guy that was in the movie, to me, it was actually me. That was me doing that scene. That was. That. That scene in the movie came from that moment.

[Fat Joe]

I was in Lebanon.

[Bill Bellamy]

Just Lebanon.

[Fat Joe]

I was in Lebanon, right? I had a show. That's when they call me Ali Kashani. Salam alaikum. All my people. I do a show In Lebanon. It's so incredible. I come back to this hotel, right? When I come back, three guys stand up like synchronized swimming. Fajo, My brother Salaka. How you doing? The guys. The guys are waiting for you. Oh, the guys, they want to shoot rockets with you. I said, huh? The Taliban, they love you. They wait. I said, my got this tight, okay, okay. I met the Taliban, right? The Taliban.

[Bill Bellamy]

You bullshit.

[Fat Joe]

No. So I told him, hey, hey, my plane's already leaving this. I get upstairs, I grab them bags so fast. I went to the airport like 1 in the morning. This ain't take off to 10 in the morning. Like, I ran to the airport.

[Bill Bellamy]

You was that. You was real pre check.

[Fat Joe]

The real Taliban shoot rockets with them. Came through, was like, yo, shoot rockets out of you, yo. I ran so fast to that airport. I was like, let's go, let's go. And everybody knew. They heard that shit. They was like, yo, we out of here. That. Let's go.

[Bill Bellamy]

Right?

[Fat Joe]

We stood in the airport overnight, just shook to death.

[Joe Budden]

It was down with you.

[Fat Joe]

Why you fuck that Linda pull. Look anyway, that's one. Yo got one.

[Bill Bellamy]

Hey, I got another one for you. So this is another one. This is a big story.

[Fat Joe]

We on the stoop.

[Bill Bellamy]

Can I give you this one?

[Fat Joe]

I want to hear it.

[Bill Bellamy]

I don't think I ever told this one. So we in. We in Lake Havasu. We're doing. Remember Lake Havasu? Didn't you do it? Remember when we did the spring break?

[Joe Budden]

Spring break? I think you was there.

[Bill Bellamy]

You was there. It was like 92. I'm thinking roughly 90. No, 4.

[Joe Budden]

4.

[Bill Bellamy]

4. 94.

[Fat Joe]

Motherfucker ain't even have the bounty around.

[Bill Bellamy]

This head now yet.

[Fat Joe]

He ain't had no bounty.

[Bill Bellamy]

So get this. So Big is. Big is on now. Nobody knows Big cannot swim. So I don't know if you remember this shit. We had the pods on the water, right? So in Lake Havasu, this is my first time going to Arizona. I get there, they tie off the boats and they partied from boat to boat to boat. Bunch of white kids, they having a good time. They drink as hot than a motherfucker, right? And so Big had to be on the pod. So I'm standing there, and Big's like.

[Joe Budden]

Man, how the fuck up a good.

[Bill Bellamy]

Old that pod, nigga? I said, what's the problem?

[Joe Budden]

It was like, nigga, I can't swim.

[Bill Bellamy]

Nigga, with my fat ass falling that water, nigga. I was, swear to God. And I was like, yo, Big, they not gonna let you fall in the water, it was like, nah, man, I gotta do my shit online. But they had them floating. I don't know you. I think you was there. There was some big go back and look, I cannot make this up. I don't know how they hypnotized him like the A team to get big on that pod. Cause he was terrified of falling in the water that just popped.

[Fat Joe]

You want to know who's crazy, right? So I was going to tell you.

[Bill Bellamy]

He got one.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, I actually don't have one, but I'm going to tell you about one. Okay, listen. Somebody can put Fat Joe out of business in the storytelling game. I'm watching one day on Instagram and Will Smith decided to tell a story.

[Joe Budden]

Okay?

[Fat Joe]

He said, man, I'm hosting the BET Awards. Everything beautiful. This one and that one's there. He said Michael Jackson was in the audience. He said all of a sudden it turned into a riot. He said his whole life he wanted to meet Michael Jackson. Will Smith, he wanted to beat Michael. So he said they rushed him out on his security and he said they threw him in a closet. He said he was in a closet. It was pitch black. He was in there like, you know, the whole place was wild. And he heard a voice. He said it was Michael Jackson. They threw him in the same closet. He's like, hey, Will. Will turned around and was like, huh? He didn't even know what to say. He said, yo, I met everybody in the world I could. He didn't even know what to say. He said, oh, Mike. Mike said that guy shit 90s messing it up again. How many know? He got so much fun. When I saw that shit, oh my God. It was like I knew Fat Joe. Storytelling days is over. When I seen Will Smith tell us story, he's like, all right, well, it's time to go. I was like, yo, don't let this man start telling stories.

[Joe Budden]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

Let's get to it.

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[Bill Bellamy]

Well, we have all been through stuff that this is the beauty of hip hop to me that, you know, is so amazing. We have had the pleasure of being in the circle of so many talented people, right? The era is never coming back. Thank God we're alive to tell the stories. Because the young people can't go back and meet Michael Jackson. They can't go back and meet Big. Can't go back and meet Tupac. You know what I'm saying? Like I've had, you've had. I mean, golly, we can go on for days. Because they're like little movies in our mind. Like you make me think of stuff that I wouldn't think of. Cause I'm just sitting here talking to you and you're like, oh, that reminds me of Boom Boom Boom.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, that's crazy. But you know, I've never met mj. What was it like meeting Michael Jackson?

[Joe Budden]

I never met him.

[Fat Joe]

That's the one, right, Mommy?

[Joe Budden]

In The Wynn Hotel number. No way.

[Fat Joe]

You saw him?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, like this.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, when I interviewed Michael Jackson, right? And I'm going to tell you right now, I was so nervous because Michael Jackson was the only artist to ever debut his video on every network simultaneously. I don't know if you remember that. You remember that? It was. And I was the guy in the middle of Times Square. Get ready for the history. Blah, blah, blah, blah. That was me. I was right in the middle of Times Square.

[Joe Budden]

Remember the time, though?

[Bill Bellamy]

No, it was. It was Scream. Remember history. Scream with him and Janet.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

Which blew up. So check this out. So I'm at Sony Music, and they like, yo, Mike coming in. Be ready. It's gonna be open.

[Fat Joe]

Well, that's about the worst thing they could do to people like, yo, Mike's coming.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, Mike. Yo, like, you see how this is. It's a bunch of people in here. Just imagine this times two for Michael Jackson. Security publicist, his team, the record label, Team Mike was rolling heavy. I will never forget. This is how I realized Michael Jackson's the biggest star in the world, right? Mike had to go to the bathroom. Yo, they went in the bathroom. It was a dude on the toilet. My man was like, break it off, fam. My man was like, I'm not done. He said, I'm not done. He said, you done? Boom, boom, the door. My man had to wipe his ass. Get out.

[Fat Joe]

I told you that story about got 5,001. He said his daughter called him and said, now, Pop is Joe Capping. My man got 5,001. The designer, they took.

[Commercial Announcer]

They.

[Fat Joe]

Rodney Jerk is telling, yo, come down.

[Bill Bellamy]

To Hit Factory, right?

[Fat Joe]

You're gonna do some shit for Michael. Michael Jackson, right? So he gets Poppy. Shout out to Poppy. Me Dominicano. He gets Poppy, who's with him. He says, yo, Papi, we're going downtown. We're going to meet somebody really, really, really, really famous. He said. He said, r. Kelly. He said, no, it's not Kelly. He says, more famous. So guys in the studio, and nobody's there yet. So guys said, yo, I'm gonna use the baffle. He said. He went to use the bathroom, and that shit happened. They started looking. They was like, you come in now. He was taking a piss. MJ walked in. He said he pissed on himself, got 5001 and ran out. He didn't even take the order. And then he was like, yo, Papi, let's go. Papi was like, yo, but what's the matter? This. This. He was telling him, be careful. He pissed on himself and Ran out the bit, but he was rolling with Michael G. He fucking missed the order. He ran. He was embarrassed. He pissed on himself, bro.

[Bill Bellamy]

Michael Jackson's security was heavy, bro. And here's the thing. So I'm the host. I got all these questions and shit, right? I got, like, 20 questions that I think every fan would want to ask Michael Jackson. They looked at that list, they was like, he gonna answer this? This? Yeah, they killed my whole list. I was sitting there like, won't, won't, won't. That's when Sony Music. That's when Tommy Mottola, you know that era of. Yeah, they was the mob at that point. My bad.

[Fat Joe]

Why you pointing that feet? That's my guy, Tommy Mottola, man. Listen. That's your guy. Everybody come up here and call it the Mob. Yo, Motola's killing people, everything. He's my friend, man.

[Bill Bellamy]

He's your buddy. I was. I never.

[Fat Joe]

You know, I saved Tommy Mottola.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, right.

[Fat Joe]

Tommy, you told me I could say this story when it happened.

[Bill Bellamy]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Fat Joe]

Tommy Mottola invites me to breakfast upstate, right? So we drive up there. He don't. Probably the only that could get me up there like that. So he says, yo, let's go eat breakfast and be it up. Rich, go up there. He lives over there. Where did Remy do the time at? What's that jail, Beacon? Nah, she did it upstate.

[Joe Budden]

No, she was in Girls. No, it was only one.

[Fat Joe]

She was in Bethel Hills, right? By the way, besides that jail, it is fucking beautiful up there, right? Drop dead, gorgeous trees. Bastards. The point is, I go in this place, Tommy orders this big pancake we eating, and he starts choking.

[Joe Budden]

He starts choking like you gave him the hymen.

[Fat Joe]

I was about to give him the hive. Listen, I'm like, tommy, are you okay? Tommy, are you okay? I'm like, yo, Rich. Tommy, are you okay? He's like, the was choking to death. I was, we gotta give him the Heimlich. Then the finally went down. He said, hold up, Joe. I said, tommy, you almost died on us. I was about to give you the Heimlich. He said, yeah, you could tell a story if you want, Joe, you saved Tommy Bentola. It. This.

[Joe Budden]

This.

[Fat Joe]

That motherfucker almost died in front me of me. Oh, the man was choking.

[Bill Bellamy]

No, if you don't put enough.

[Fat Joe]

Not the regular choking.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, that. That get caught in your throat, I swear to God.

[Fat Joe]

That man was like. I was like. But Tommy, he was like, you know.

[Joe Budden]

When that happens, what was he doing?

[Fat Joe]

You never really. I was like, yo, Tommy, he Was like. He was like, yo. I was like, yo, Tommy, are you sure? Are you okay? You're rich. I'm looking at Rich. I think the Heimlich. You know how to do that? He was going. He was up. And I'm like, no way. Tommy Motola is gonna die. Tommy Mato.

[Joe Budden]

That's the song.

[Fat Joe]

No, not with Fat Joe. I'm like, yo, the craziest we have. I was like, God, this is the real deal. I got scared to death. I catch an anxiety explaining it to you. It was the real.

[Bill Bellamy]

It was the real deal.

[Fat Joe]

I swear to God, it was the real deal. But I'm gonna tell you the craziest. Yeah, the craziest is we leave Tommy. Tommy's going in his car. I don't know what it was a Bayback. Something incredible. And the man turned around, he said, hey, I know you like to tell stories. Yeah, tell a story. You saved Tommy Bentola.

[Bill Bellamy]

It killed me.

[Fat Joe]

Jumped in the car. Oh, my.

[Bill Bellamy]

Jada crying. God damn.

[Fat Joe]

He hit me with the cap of the cap. He was like, I know you like telling stories. Go ahead, tell him. By your same time I've been telling.

[Joe Budden]

Get out of here.

[Fat Joe]

Gets in the car, breaks out. I'm like, you hurt me, huh? Yo, that really do. Look, I'm not. We can't. The man, what was he doing? Yo, I'm trying to tell people this really happened. Like, his ear was eating up there. He said, I'm like. I said, yo. I said, tommy, are you okay? Now I'm scared to death.

[Joe Budden]

Tommy, I love you.

[Fat Joe]

I don't want Tommy to, but I don't need Tommy. I don't want Tommy Mottola to die on you, on the Fat Joe. So I'm like.

[Joe Budden]

I was terrified. What was Rich gonna do?

[Fat Joe]

Rich was standing there. He might know the Heimlich. Rich was sitting there. I said, yo, Rich, do you know the Heimlich? And you know, Tommy's. Tommy's like a real.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, he's a real dude.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

The last thing he wants is the Heimlich.

[Bill Bellamy]

And he definitely don't want mouth to mouth.

[Fat Joe]

You don't want the Heimlich? Tommy don't want the Heimlich. So he's dealing with it on his own time.

[Joe Budden]

Let me get something.

[Fat Joe]

He's coordinating it.

[Joe Budden]

That hurt me.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Bill.

[Bill Bellamy]

Jada weak over here.

[Joe Budden]

Kill me, Bill.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, he's coordinating this. Like, he's trying to figure out how I'm gonna get. Tommy's a real deal. Yo, Jada, you crying? God.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, he said it's funny, bro.

[Fat Joe]

I love you, Tommy. Tommy, I want to be like you when I go up.

[Joe Budden]

What was he doing? One more time.

[Fat Joe]

No, you gotta.

[Bill Bellamy]

No, no, no.

[Fat Joe]

It's not a laughing matter. What I'm trying to tell you is I was scared to death.

[Joe Budden]

Show me what he was doing.

[Fat Joe]

You thought it was funny?

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Fat Joe]

More if you thought that was the. You thought that was one of the funniest shits I ever said. Eddie Murphy never threw the red leather suit on, though.

[Joe Budden]

What was he doing?

[Fat Joe]

He was. Yo, I was scared. I was terrified. I'm telling y' all about a real story in life. Y' all missing the funniest point in the whole.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, nothing funny.

[Fat Joe]

You missing the whole.

[Joe Budden]

All right, go ahead down off that.

[Fat Joe]

The man is all the way stable. He's good. I walk him to the car. You know, Tommy Matola's the don.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I walk up to the car, brand new Maybach. I never got money with him even. He's just my guy. But he went into some fly ass car, he turned around, he said, all right, dang, I know you like to tell stories. Tell him how you fucking saved Tommy Bitolo. Go ahead, Joe, tell your story. All right, Tom, I see pulled off, man. I saw this one. I'm saving this for Bill Bella. Yo, bro, that was a great one, man.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I would have killed me if I was there.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

You just reenacted and killed.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, but you not listening. I was really scared. Like, I'm not trying to tell you. I was terrified. I don't want nobody to die in.

[Bill Bellamy]

Front of me, let alone Tommy Mato.

[Fat Joe]

Tommy. You know what kind?

[Bill Bellamy]

I had one of them.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't with Tommy Mottola.

[Fat Joe]

Who was it with?

[Joe Budden]

One of my man from my block.

[Fat Joe]

He caught the Heimlich.

[Joe Budden]

You can't catch the Hindi.

[Fat Joe]

With.

[Bill Bellamy]

He had some. He had a seizure. Some.

[Joe Budden]

It was somewhere that mixed with something like he went. I lost him. He was driving. No, no, no. I lost him for a minute. Like, he.

[Fat Joe]

He left for me driving.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, he come. He used to drive me home. I used to give him bread to drive me to the crib. So he come pick me up one day. He go get the apple juice. He come out, he like, yo, you ready, man? I'm ready now we going over the hill. We're going to get on the sawmill. We're going to get on the spraying, I think. And we go wild. Got a lot of ills like San Fran, right? He'd go over, come down. Now, out of.

[Bill Bellamy]

No way.

[Joe Budden]

He Buses a U and goes back up. I'm like, is GPS telling me with traffic over. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Now he starts, like, talking about the 86 bets. He starts blacking out. He's not dead now. I'm like, oh, Lord. Please, Lord. Oh, look, he's on. He's in the driver's side, though. Cry. I'm in the passenger. Now I'm praying. 75 Our Fathers Bish me. Alas. I'm doing everything. I'm scared.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, like you.

[Joe Budden]

This is worse than Tommy because he's on the wheel. You over pancakes. He's on a wheel, right? Me look. And he start going like he's talking gibberish.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying, please, Lord. I'm looking at him. I'm looking at the thing to put it in park. I'm saying, me eye contact, Dave apart. I call his name one times loud. Yo, now he's came back. Yo, kids, what's up? Boom. As soon as he did that, me pop. Soon as I threw it in park, he stepped on the gas. He would have. He would have went into the building.

[Bill Bellamy]

Are you kidding me?

[Joe Budden]

Now people honking and they seeing it's me. Yo, kids, you hide me. I'm trying to convince. Yeah, good. I'm really not, though.

[Bill Bellamy]

Boom.

[Joe Budden]

I get out. I go around. I get him out. Unbuckle his seat belt, put him. Get him out the car. Put him in the passenger. Get in now. I'm trying to. Like, he going in and out. Hey, yo, what's your wife's number?

[Fat Joe]

The hospital miss you.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, what's your wife. What's your wife. Keep asking him his wife's number. Then he finally got it. I took him to his wife. I struggled, wiped his sweater. I was half. I was discombobulated. But he didn't know at the.

[Fat Joe]

He was probably having a short wife. He didn't know nothing.

[Joe Budden]

He didn't know what you said.

[Fat Joe]

The apple juice. I thought maybe it would be like, a diabetic.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe now you got some other. You know, a lot of people. Even with my mom. Oh, shout out to St. John's the nurses on the fifth floor and the eighth floor girl. Yeah. A lot of times when you go, when you don't take your medicine, it could cause, like a.

[Fat Joe]

Some take your medicine.

[Joe Budden]

You got to take your medicine.

[Fat Joe]

That's one of the biggest killers, is when. When people need. You're diabetic, but you still want to act like you're not diabetic.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, you're not taking.

[Fat Joe]

That's what my brother up. He walking around like he ain't diabetic. I'm like, yo, June, did you take your medicine? You're diabetic. That ain't over here. You won't type of cakes. And I went to what we did the 50th anniversary of hip hop in Yankee Stadium. I went to. We had a suite.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

So my brother's diabetic. The guy who takes care of him is diabetic. I walk up in that. They having cakes and regular. So I'm like. I'm looking down like, yo, these. These dudes want to die.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out to Thor. They trying to kill himself. I sat next to my brother. I say, I was so happy that day. But I sat next to him. I was like, I see yo, Joe. He was like, yo, what's up, Joe? I was like, what the you doing drinking Pepsis and cake and cake? No, he was on it. On it, on it, on it, on it, on it. And did you know that's the worst thing you could do is, like, lie to yourself? Like, you take your medicine, man. It's a lot of people like that. There's people like that are bipolar. Yeah, right. That they don't like how the medicine feels, and then they don't take the medicine.

[Bill Bellamy]

And they.

[Fat Joe]

And they bogged the out.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You know, you was shook, boy. I would have been shook.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, but you knew something was wrong.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he went out on me, started talking about the.

[Fat Joe]

He started talking JD9 Mets and like that.

[Joe Budden]

It was crazy.

[Fat Joe]

He started going to the hip.

[Joe Budden]

And.

[Fat Joe]

He hit the boy. Kiss was trying to. Yo, this is a art. He had to figure out where to throw that shit on Park.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, he was. He was looking.

[Fat Joe]

He was looking.

[Bill Bellamy]

But you need that moment.

[Fat Joe]

Okay, at what time am I gonna do the.

[Bill Bellamy]

Save my life. You saved your life on this.

[Fat Joe]

And dive over, put the on park.

[Joe Budden]

As soon as I threw it in park.

[Fat Joe]

His wife knew he was bugged out.

[Joe Budden]

Floored when you brought him Bugged out. He was at a thing. He ain't bugged.

[Fat Joe]

But she knew he had the thing.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, she took it.

[Bill Bellamy]

Well, if he was doing the apple juice, I'm gonna say he was diabetic. So he's probably going in the shot low. There's low blood sugar, so he. So he was. His coherency was probably off because he's doing the apple juice properly to bring the sugar level up.

[Fat Joe]

I'm diabetic. One time that shit happened to me. Because when you take Your medicine. You gotta eat, yo. Diabetes is a trick, man. The fucking insulin. If you don't eat, then you go into a coma. So you gotta eat. So it's almost like it keeps you fat. But that's not the point. The point is I take the medicine. I'm going to the. Thank you, sir. Yeah, I'm on my way to a restaurant, and then at that point my sugar drops, right? And sometimes you don't even know how to tell people. So I had to run in the store or get an orange juice, but that shit was feeling. That's probably one of the worst feelings I ever.

[Bill Bellamy]

Cause it's too much sugar.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no. This shit was low. Once I drank the orange juice, I was okay. But when it dropped.

[Bill Bellamy]

That's one of them feelings.

[Fat Joe]

If you're not diabetic, nobody.

[Joe Budden]

They can't. You do not want to drop it.

[Fat Joe]

Or, you know, I mean, you do not want that. That shit is some real shit, you know what I'm saying? Tell us about the Christmas joint you got going on.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, okay. It's called Worst Christmas Ever. It's a comedy. It's family, you know what I'm saying? It's a clean cut movie, but it's about love, you know, it's about a guy who, you know, was going through a divorce during the holidays, and he's trying to decide if, you know, can you get the family together for the sake of the holiday and, you know, we gotta make the right choice. Family over everything, you know what I'm saying? Kids are coming in and the feelings is weird because the wife is moving on and he ain't moving on yet, you know, so that. I think it's a really fun vibe. And then also there's a lot of comedy. And then obviously, you know, I do that. I do that very well.

[Fat Joe]

Man, let me tell you something. How do you feel about. You've been with your wife 24 years. How do you feel about your wife, all her friends getting divorce and they sitting down together talking that divorce, that misery, love. Keep that over there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

You know, to me, I think what you just.

[Fat Joe]

She come back like she fully charged with that arrows type of rockets. She ain't shit.

[Joe Budden]

They all ain't shit. They.

[Fat Joe]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

This getting divorced, it's epidemic.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, it's. It's tough, man. Like, to me, I think stay away from. The thing is, is just keep your. Keep your. Your house private, bro. You know what I'm saying? You can.

[Joe Budden]

Like.

[Bill Bellamy]

I'm very select about what I'm putting on Social media, what I'm letting access get to. Because once you start putting people in your house, they in your house.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

And they start affecting. Yeah. They get to change the attitude of your house or the altitude of your house. Right? And so to me, I think private should be private. Like, I hate how people put so much personal stuff on social media. Like, if me and Jada got a beef, I'm gonna talk to Jada. I'm not gonna go on social media and then say something, and then Jada gotta go on, then come back. I'm old school. I'm like, yo, we on some man shit. Like, yo, man, I thought. And it might not even be an issue. It might be some misunderstanding he ain't even seen. Now, it turned into something. Cause Jada cousin called yo Bill talking reckless. You see what I'm saying? It just keep building.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something. They offered me all types of money to have, like, a reality show, but I knew I wouldn't have a wife after one seat.

[Bill Bellamy]

Nah, nah.

[Fat Joe]

Cause you know, I'm the type, I go, yeah, you know, this, this, that. And I walk away, be like, bitch, like that shit on camera.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, yeah, you done.

[Joe Budden]

You. You done.

[Fat Joe]

You cooked like. You cooked like. You do that shit to yourself. You know, you walk away. Yo, yo, what happened? You know, the. I'm done.

[Bill Bellamy]

You done cooked, right?

[Fat Joe]

And that's when the cousins get involved.

[Bill Bellamy]

And everyone starts having, you know, opinions is about your personal life, right?

[Fat Joe]

And to me, kill love.

[Bill Bellamy]

It kills love. But also, too, It's. You know, I think as men, you know, I think we have to protect the crib. You feel me? And then you, You. You get a chance to create your home. How you want your home. You do your job, you go out, you be the best Joe, you be the best Janet. Then you come home, and then you be the best at home, right? But they can't be blended.

[Joe Budden]

It's no different than. Than Schwarzenegger or. I mean, it's your job.

[Bill Bellamy]

You go home.

[Joe Budden]

When I go home, I'm Jason.

[Bill Bellamy]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but Swanson, you don't got.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, but he was knocking the bait off, I thought that's what I mean.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. I mean, he was Milagros.

[Joe Budden]

He told you, I'll be back.

[Fat Joe]

Let me use the rest.

[Bill Bellamy]

Okay. Yeah, Yeah. I think after. Hey, Joe, you left your money, man.

[Fat Joe]

You going to the strip club.

[Joe Budden]

You know, he good. I got. Oh, he dropped the. He dropped the malls on.

[Fat Joe]

I thought it was this.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't see when he Dropped Bottega Tony over there. Holy.

[Bill Bellamy]

What is.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, look, I see.

[Fat Joe]

I put everything like this.

[Joe Budden]

I thought he dropped something light. I'm about to hold it for. He dropped a Mickey Rudy. Oh, I thought I was the only one who came outside with those. He got the Mickey Rudy.

[Bill Bellamy]

He paying for everything. Cash.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, drop the Mickey Root.

[Bill Bellamy]

All your money right there.

[Joe Budden]

She just dropped your wallet. I looked over there. You dropped the whole bow. 10. I thought you just dropped that. You dropped it.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Joe Budden]

You going to the moniker and. No, he cheating.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, I ain't going like this. I'm going on some Monica.

[Joe Budden]

I know. You told me, Andy.

[Fat Joe]

I look like I'm in the Swiss watch. I'm looking like a. That's tonight. I've been waiting a whole year for that. Then I was trying to figure out how I'm going to bum rush or sneak in. See, if you would have with my.

[Joe Budden]

Wife, I would have did it with me and you could have did it perform together. It made it much more easy, bro.

[Fat Joe]

So the point is, I've been dying to go. I was going no matter what, but I didn't have no seats. And then they called me and said, yo, we want you to perform. And I said, that's even. Now I can sneak in my wife or best friends and like that Fat Joe performing live, but I'm coming in there looking like a mother. A movie up in that.

[Bill Bellamy]

You gonna go get it?

[Fat Joe]

Cause the story is 20 years from now, they're gonna be like one. One time during the holidays, Granny and Monica was on tour and they went to Brooklyn and they brought out Fat.

[Bill Bellamy]

Joe and boy, yeah, you got to do it.

[Fat Joe]

Did he come out in that white cocaine Fendi fur, laser looking, like he's floating in that. You know what I'm saying?

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, you got to do it.

[Fat Joe]

You don't. It got to be like that.

[Bill Bellamy]

That's an everlasting moment.

[Fat Joe]

Dude with the goggles on. Him coming with the goggles and.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, that's how you're doing it now.

[Fat Joe]

I'm acting up. That's why, you know, I brought out the, you know, artillery. You know what I'm saying? We gotta shine.

[Bill Bellamy]

You're a fly dude, though, Joe, I give you your flowers, man. You always had a. A crazy swag about yourself.

[Joe Budden]

Two minutes.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, Eddie Murphy, have you seen the documentary?

[Bill Bellamy]

No, I have not. I'll have to. Everybody says phenomenal. Everybody says phenomenal again.

[Fat Joe]

Anything with Eddie Murphy, Any stories with Eddie Murphy? Because I'm like. Like I'm on the Eddie Murphy Man, I did not realize how much I loved him till I seen this doctor. You know, I'm the guy they threw out of the movie theater when war came out.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I was about to say. I thought he was about to say they wanted him for 48 hours.

[Bill Bellamy]

I thought he was about to say that shit too.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something. Eddie Murphy, raw the whole project, it was a hundred of us. And I'm talking about derelict bums. We all. We at that adolescent bum, right? Guys sneaking in the movie theater with 40 ounces and all that. All of that, we 40 like is the most ghetto pissed smelling movie theater you ever seen in your life.

[Bill Bellamy]

I got a quick hitting all the.

[Fat Joe]

100 of them, right? I'm the only guy got thrown out the movie. I was laughing. I'm a.

[Joe Budden]

No, no.

[Fat Joe]

They see before you laugh too.

[Joe Budden]

Glasses smoking. Me and Styles, they kick this up.

[Commercial Announcer]

What?

[Joe Budden]

Me, Styles and Cage, they kicked us out. We woke up cracked. The whole Bay Plaza was empty. The movie theaters, the parking lot, every.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all was hot.

[Joe Budden]

Open the door. That means people had to see us sleeping on the staircase. All of that. We opened the door and y' all.

[Fat Joe]

Was already the lobbyist. Y' all was already the last.

[Joe Budden]

It was. We didn't have an album out yet.

[Fat Joe]

No.

[Joe Budden]

We was about to be popped. And then we. Our dudes came around one last time. But they was about to go home. The whole was empty.

[Bill Bellamy]

It was.

[Joe Budden]

No more workers, no more people there.

[Bill Bellamy]

God damn.

[Fat Joe]

That's not Poppy Buddha. You smoke that? Let me tell you something. I'm in the house with smoking and they smoking so much. And that secondhand smoke is real. Because I'm watching BET and they got my man, what was my man? Lavelle Crawford. Lavelle Crawford. The man looked like a human M m. Yeah, he had some suit on. He was so fat. His head looked like. I thought the Eminem was talking to me. Like Eminem and Peanut. Yeah, I thought this was the Eminem and Peanut talking to me. He was like, you know, crack is a hell of a drug. You talk. I was like, that wasn't we.

[Joe Budden]

That's not me.

[Fat Joe]

I never smoked. But I'm telling you, it was like you in the studio and 20 guys are smoking. I'm looking at him, he looked like a human Eminem. He had a suit on, his head was smooth. He was like, crack, you know, I'm tired of smoking crack. I did. Yo, this was the funniest shit I've ever seen in my life. Yo, Bill Bellamy. Thank you, man. This Ain't that.

[Joe Budden]

That ain't this. It's cracking. Kiss, make some noise for our guest Bill. Thank y' all man.

[Bill Bellamy]

I love y' all man.

[Fat Joe]

Appreciate you legendary brother.

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[Fat Joe]

Milano mint chocolate, so rich. Jessamine butter cookies, so buttery.

[Joe Budden]

And Linza Raspberry.

[Bill Bellamy]

A holiday classic.

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[Fat Joe]

Fancy Santa, Fancy Santa.

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[Joe Budden]

Classy oak lock, gold chain. Hmm. With diamonds.

[Fat Joe]

Now that's fancy.

[Joe Budden]

Pepperidge Farm Cookies. Fancy a taste.

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