Joe and Jada Podcast: "Fat Joe & Jadakiss DROP GEMS on SUCCESS in hip hop industry + Joe's CRAZY weight loss"

Episode Date: November 4, 2025
Guests: Cocky Khan
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jadakiss

Episode Overview

In this episode of Joe and Jada, hip-hop legends Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome rising New York rapper Cocky Khan to share stories about navigating success—from personal struggles and authenticity in music to maintaining health and the importance of trustworthy circles. The trio dive deep into hip-hop culture, the evolution of the sound, surviving and thriving in the current scene, and Fat Joe opens up about his own journey of weight loss and transformation.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cocky Khan’s Background and Rise

• Cocky Khan talks about coming up in Brooklyn, surrounded by a supportive yet tough environment.
• He emphasizes the importance of channeling pain and real life into his music.
• Discusses the transition from classic "bar-heavy" rapping to infusing melody and vulnerability (04:56–10:04)
  • Quote:
    “We just having fun. We just, you know… New York, we fall on what's the wave. Drill was the wave... then we like, yo, like, get them what we really going through... Let’s think bigger than New York. Let's think worldwide.”
    — Cocky Khan [09:12]

2. Impact of Loss and Using Music as Therapy

• Cocky Khan opens up about losing his father suddenly and the effect it had on him personally and musically.

  • Quote:
    “Like, you wake up in the morning, you know them deaths, like, let's just be, like, sudden...You just wake up in the morning, just happen. He gone…I never lost nobody like, that close before…We just put that shit in the pain. If you don’t put that shit in the music…studio was kinda like therapy.”
    — Cocky Khan [07:00–08:13]

• Fat Joe and Jada highlight Cocky’s raw ability to be present and vulnerable in his lyrics, recognizing its importance in today’s hip-hop landscape.

  • Quote:
    “Your music is like, you're in the moment… and you talking that shit, especially the youth. They all dying. They all killing each other. They need to hear that.”
    — Fat Joe [08:18]

3. Navigating Fame & Staying Grounded

• Cocky reflects on the rapid shift of being recognized everywhere, pointing out how different “motion” feels when your face and story become known on a mass level (11:00).

• Discussion on keeping solid people around and gratitude for having a trustworthy, long-standing core team:

  • “Anybody around me, we got 20 plus years in…he was kind of like big bro. Major key for me.”
    — Cocky Khan [12:22]

• Jada and Fat Joe stress the value of humility and how it plays a role in longevity.

4. Ownership and Hard Work in Hip Hop

• Key emphasis on independence, taking ownership of music, and the grind required behind the scenes (13:32–13:54).

  • “Overnights in the studio... something gotta come out of there.”
    — Cocky Khan [13:38]

• Fat Joe draws a line between luck and sacrifice in the game:

  • “To be supremacy in this game, it’s a lot of sacrifice. Some people think maybe they got lucky… but I don’t think you could cheat the success.”
    — Fat Joe [15:29]

5. Studio Sessions & Creative Process

• Cocky explains that despite the party vibe, most sessions are small, focused, and vulnerable spaces.

  • “A regular studio session is just me and like probably three of my guys… that’s part of why I’m the most vulnerable, myself in there…”
    — Cocky Khan [16:32–17:16]

• The importance of authentic feedback is highlighted over “yes men” mentality (17:29–18:37).

6. Relationship Dynamics, Health & Temptation

• Playful but real discussions about women, relationships, and how to stay focused:

  • “Seek the kingdom... sometimes your vision of you, your team might not…they could fuck the whole shit up.”
    — Fat Joe [19:43, 22:24]

• Discussion of food, health, and cheat meals, intertwining humor, and serious talk about legacy and life choices (27:53–32:41):

  • Fat Joe goes into detail about his weight loss journey and the traps people fall into regarding quick fixes versus consistency and habit formation:

    • “I was 480, almost 500 pounds…The biggest mistake…is if your man work out and says okay, you big, and they throw the biggest weights on you—you never going back. You don’t need that... All you need is a week, right? If you go every day.”
      — Fat Joe [44:30–45:11]

  • On habit:
    “After 21 days, then it becomes a root… a lifestyle regime.”
    — Jada [45:16]

7. Advice and Gems for the Next Generation

• The importance of keeping visionaries and people who want the best around you, even if it means letting go of childhood friends.

  • “You got to really figure it out…please y’all want to see me do good…let me go…They almost gotta look at you like a kid that might be going to the league.”
    — Fat Joe [23:01–23:17]

• Fat Joe shares about the consequences of negative influences in a public figure's circle and the reality that, right or wrong, the famous one gets the blame [23:17–24:13].

8. Sharing Music & Legacy

• Cocky Khan performs live verses, including deeply personal pieces about his late father (“Proud of Me”).

• The hosts stress the gravity of sharing your story on a major stage and how every barbershop in America is watching (55:41–59:04).

  • “If you still got your parents, hold them tight. I know you proud of me…look at all… I prevailed…the youngest of your seeds making sure the family eat well…”
    — Cocky Khan, “Proud of Me” [58:25]

• Fat Joe: “This kid is the future. I know.” [52:13]

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Fat Joe:
  “We took a big boy, made him a sex symbol, right? I see what you doing out here… You got the 20 girls behind you. That’s a big pun right here.” [14:01]
• Cocky Khan:
  “Us as men... we don’t really talk to nobody… So studio was kind of like therapy, you think?” [08:13]
• Jada:
  “I like how humble you are… Every time I speak to you, you got the same good ear.” [13:03]
• Fat Joe (on health):
  “I was 480, almost 500 pounds… I lost it in phases… Cardio, walking, then the elliptical’s good on your knees… All you need is a week, right?” [44:30–45:11]
• Fat Joe (about music and honesty):
  “I’m real honest when it comes to the music… I’ll try my best way to let you down in the nicest way, but if it ain't it to me, I’m not gonna sit here and do that.” [17:36]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:20–08:13] Cocky Khan’s Upbringing, Loss & Using Pain for Art
• [11:00–12:22] Adjusting to Fame & The Importance of Core Team
• [12:22–13:54] Building a Trustworthy Team & Humility
• [15:29–16:23] No Shortcuts to Success
• [16:23–18:37] Creative Process, Studio Sessions, and Feedback
• [19:43–23:17] On Relationships, Team Dynamics, & Avoiding Pitfalls
• [27:53–32:13] Food, Health, and Cheat Meals
• [44:30–47:29] Fat Joe’s Weight Loss Journey, Advice on Fitness
• [55:05–58:25] Cocky Khan’s “Proud of Me” Performance

Memorable Moments

• Fat Joe’s classic tales about out-eating buffets and fast food chains, using humor to segue into discussions on self-control and healthy lifestyle changes.
• Live performances from Cocky Khan—the emotional power of “Proud of Me” resonates strongest, with honest bars about grief and ambition.
• Insights on staying humble and not getting caught up with “yes men” or fleeting hype.
• Jada and Fat Joe stressing legacy, discipline, and vision for the next generation of hip-hop artists.

Conclusion

Cocky Khan emerges as a new voice for resilience and vulnerability in New York rap, with Fat Joe and Jadakiss offering OG-level guidance and real-life gems. The episode is a showcase of bridging generations, staying grounded, and never losing sight of your purpose—even as you celebrate the wins. As Fat Joe puts it:

“This kid is the future. I know.” [52:13]