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Fat Joe
Even if I'm making jokes about you, if I'm saying SNS with the mustard shirt, he getting bookings. He called me and said thank you Joe. My bookings are going up. We the hottest moving out here right now. Yeah, yeah. What up y'? All? This is Joe Crack.
Jadakiss
No, it is your boy Jada. You know what? This is the Joe and Jada Show.
Fat Joe
Just like that, we back. I had A rough weekend.
Jadakiss
Yeah, tell me about it. Before you even go into it, we was doing a lot of promoting for Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano. We was doing a lot of promoting for Edgar Balanga and my other guy from over the water, Sean Stevens. There be no fourth and fifth. Serrano and Taylor. There won't be another. The trilogy's over, my brother.
Fat Joe
Yeah, it is. It's sad because I can't make sense of it, because the first and second, they went toe to toe, three minutes a round for 12 rounds. They kept going blow for blow fights of the year. And I felt like it was air punching like I could not believe. And what's crazy is sometimes you gotta build your audience. And. Cause Serrano has been such a great champion over the years. And that Ireland and the Puerto Rico, that shit, that stadium, Madison Square Garden felt like. I haven't felt like that as a Puerto Rican since Trinidad. It was like it was on in there. It was. People were fighting each other. It was crazy in there. And, you know, she didn't come to fight the way she normally does, man. And I think that hurt her very much because it's so hard to get the people behind you that way. It was magical. I'm sitting there, Louis Guzman is there, the girl Gina from Disney the movies. It's Kevin Hart, by the way. Kevin Hart said the podcast is.
Jadakiss
He.
Fat Joe
Ain'T know we was funny. I said, I ain't know we was funny either. And. And he's like, yo, y' all, big funny. Shout out to Kevin Hart. Malanga hurt me bad. Cause we lost Amanda Serrano. Shout out to Katie Teller. But the next day, I'm thinking, redemption, you know, Puerto Ricans gonna win something. So I go out there, you know, I'm looking fly. I got that Sky Blue Louie shit on. See a sucker, you know, Diamonds is out. Got Remy with me, the family. And another thing, I'll go into his room before he fights, and his wife is like. Malanga's wife is like, who knew? I said, like what? She was like that. You guys are so funny. Give podcasts every. I don't know if have you been getting that experience?
Jadakiss
A lot of love. Airports, diners, malls, Louis store. A lot of love.
Fat Joe
It's crazy, man. The other day, a FedEx truck pulled up on me and was like, yo, I'm watching you now. Like, I don't know. Shout out to the truckers. My man. Rhino BX legend.
Jadakiss
They must listen.
Fat Joe
Yeah, they. They lit truckers.
Jadakiss
That audio check.
Fat Joe
That's how I go, James. They They. They look at the episode.
Jadakiss
Some people watching, some listen. Yeah, Crack. Some people watching, some people listening.
Fat Joe
Some people listening, just laughing and shit. Like, yo, these guys are crazy. Cause we all crazy. But Balanga, man. Man, he took that L, man, My little brother, you know, this ain't just. You know, I love him to death. He's family. So touched me in a different way to see him go down. Shout out to Hamza. Everybody who threw the event, they took care of us, the Turkish, you know what I mean? Turkey for Saudi Arabia. Salaam alaikum, my brothers. But, man, that was hard. That was hard. And they put him through concussion protocol because he was getting here hard. So he's in this room for an hour, and they checking him, and then they had forced him to the hospital. It was just wild for me. What I didn't like was how the crowd turned on him. He come out, he New York's own. I see a million Puerto Rican flags, people singing Lean Back. We walking them into the ring. And the next thing you know, what was it? The fourth or fifth round? Soon as he get dropped, I seen the same people cheering for him, screaming and laughing and clapping. And, you know, I'm old, so I've been through this before personally, but I know him. I don't know where he's at mentally, to see the fans that were acting like they were cheering from him. And now the difference is they got you on social media, twisted every way, you falling down. You know, the thing is to sell a fight, you know, even in verses with a Ja Rule, one of my best friends. But when I was doing the verses, I'm hyping it up, throwing videos just to get the crowd in there. So he's hyping that shit up, dissing De La Hoya with the wig, with the panties. You know, he's trying to hype up the fight. But, you know, that happened to me one time, you know, when we used to coach at the Rucker, when I used to coach, shout out Kareem Reed, Mousey and everybody. I had won, like, I think five chips in a row before Jay Z came. And the culture, the. The. The Rucker's a prestigious place, but the EBC at that time, it was crickets. So I'm coming in, I'm bringing AI, I'm bringing Steph on. I mean, one game, I had the whole Easton Conference All Stars out there. Like, I was dumbing out so much. They brought Kobe because I was dumb, and they brought. Right. So I bring this. I bring the tournament back Right to where you know, everybody want to play. Everybody is. Everybody bringing NBA players is off the chain. And then Jay Z throws the team in there. Hov he walking in with Beyonce and nah, it's a big movie. Whoever you name is walking in with him. But it's my park. I won five chips and I own this shit. You understand what I'm saying? And so I should be the favorite. And everybody was up in there uptown, they throw the X. When I walked into that game, the blackout, the whole crowd that goes X do this up. Five years of blood, sweat and tears making this tournament what it was again. Restoring the faith, the nostalgia in there. I walk in there, I don't know if only their fans got in. I like to think those was the same guys who used to throw the X up.
Jadakiss
We got to get OG Juan in here to, to talk about that.
Fat Joe
They all did that. Somebody here OG1 let them know we we talking some right now. But when they did that, that was like a. An invisible spear in my heart. I was like, yo, you know, try type of work I put in out here. I was taking summers off. What stops number one in the country. They trying to pay me 150, 000 a show. 200, 000. I'm taking the whole off just to coach these guys. I'm out there. That hurt. That was close. I'm sure the Balanga shit was on another level, but that's how I felt that day when I was like, damn, I thought these people were with me and they turned on me like that. And I guess that's part of sports, you know, I seen some of my friends, I get really mad. Rich gets really mad. So when we see our friends, you know, obviously, yo, Fat Joe loved that young kid Balanga. You know it though, right?
Jadakiss
No doubt.
Fat Joe
So I feel like all my friends know it. So if I'm looking at people trash talking to him on the, on the comments, and people that are family that's down with us are laughing and liking it, and my man's wives and them, I'm almost like, this is like, what Trump won. I almost ain't talked to half the people I knew that was going for Trump. So it was like, yo, I'm over here. When he loses, they clowning him. And people I know who know I love him are in the comments laughing. And so, yo, he had to learn this lesson. This. I mean, it's tough. It was tough for me. I'm sure it's tougher for him.
Jadakiss
Hope he's safe and healthy. And get back to training and get back on his a.
Fat Joe
And what you got to understand, right, um, it's easy to comment about people. It's easy to have an opinion about somebody. But you know what I see as a kid from the projects in Brooklyn in the Lower east side, who found a way to make over $20 million at a young age. If I was him, I go buy me 10 wingstops right now. You understand what I'm saying? And so when I see a kid come from nothing, this is why I big up like a cardi B. I know how hard it is for a guy to make it out the South Bronx. Remy Ma, you know. You know how hard it is for a woman to become successful coming out of this shit. And so this is why, you know, I always see that in everybody. I don't know if you know, but, you know, you know, the rap out of the UK Skeptic called out the whole United States. Did you see that? The man. No, no, no. Let me talk you.
Jadakiss
I thought he just said something about joining Lucas.
Fat Joe
No, he said the whole United States fell off. All the rappers are trash. And Jordan Looker, the only one who stuck his chin out, he the only one that said, yo, my man. Like, are you serious? Yo, y' all had it. You're whack. You're not bringing it no more. This, this, that. And Jordan Lucas said that, and he talked some shit about him and joined the. Lucas said, you know what? I'm going to just fall back. And then they really talk shit about Jonah Luca. Like, yo, he folded. You know. You know, they call you to the yard, you got to come out. And so Skepta did a diss record, and then Joyner just answered earlier today, which is pretty fire. But, you know, that's round one, not the whole United. Do you think the whole United States.
Jadakiss
Yeah, that's global.
Fat Joe
Yeah, but you think the United States fell off rap completely? Hell, no question. You know, Drake went up there and co signed a man that said the best lyricist is from the uk. That might have threw the extra energy.
Jadakiss
Sure it did. But that's cool. That's what you. This is a. This is a competitive blood sport. It always been just the new evolution of digital technology just makes it.
Fat Joe
I do agree that the UK started that Drill rap shit. I do agree.
Jadakiss
I don't know who started what.
Fat Joe
And they making great music, but the whole United States. Come on, kiss like, you know, you can't.
Jadakiss
I'm not even commenting on the whole United States. What is that?
Fat Joe
Yo, let me Tell you something, man. I came with this bar. It said, they sent me to the wolves and I came back with a fur.
Jadakiss
Sound like something out of the Bible, the New Bible.
Fat Joe
They sent me to the wolves and I came back with a fur. And that's what it's like being from any inner city, being from nothing. You know, I try to tell people, if you could look at your family's DNA, your ancestors, what they went through, how poor they was, how up they are. And you're the first in a generation of hundreds of DNA lines to become successful, take care of your family, send your kids to college. That means you're an exceptional guy, man. And so that's how I look at all the youth and everybody who overcame all the odds.
Jadakiss
Pretty much. Good way to look at it, you know what I mean? If you're not letting the devil occupy your time and you're doing something, something useful to bring change to your family. Finances is always a good thing, because it's hard.
Fat Joe
Like you said, Bad Bunny, the man started a residency in Puerto Rico. LeBron went out there. Draymond Green, he sold out, I think, 60 concerts in a row. Stadium, the Coliseum. And he's generating over $200 million for Puerto Rico. And everybody flying. I'm flying in, me and Nori, flying in with our families. And we gonna go party with Bad Bunny and all that. How ill is that that he took power into his own hands. He refused to tour. He not going to tour nowhere. United States, anywhere.
Jadakiss
He got all this shit.
Fat Joe
You gotta go there, book tickets, book hotels, eat at the restaurants, feed the people. That's some pretty ill. What you think about that?
Jadakiss
You think that's awesome? You need more shit like that in the culture, in hip hop, you know what I mean? That was a good thing for him to do. A very honorable thing to do for pr. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico.
Fat Joe
It's crazy because I go to the fight Back to the Malanga, right? And you know, I was like this. I was a big boy. I was 480. So we sit in the front row. My wife, my daughter Remy. And we sitting next to my brother, Gorilla Mems Bing Bong, one of the best guys in the world. The man sitting. Damn, man. They was calling him Seat and A Half. Cause he was taking up a seat and a half. And so who called him Seat and A Half? Yo, yo, just call him Seat and A Half. I ain't gonna. You know, if this was the Mafia Chris, he'd be. He be them Seat and A Half. Cause he take up Seat and a half, right? So my daughter's sitting there. Yo, my daughter's sitting next to him. She's in the fucking pretzel. So she's squatting with the half a seat as he had the half a seat. So she's like, somehow we finessed the seat next to Remy. She sat there. And my wife turns around and tells them, rich player's coming to sit here next to you. He said, oh, no. Rich player. He too big to sit here. He can't come up in here. And I said, that's like the kettle calling the pot black or something. I said, this motherfucker. So I ain't going to lie. My wife has some jokes. So I was like, yo, bro, you fell in love with a big boy, man. Don't disrespect the God that the guy was over there. Shout out to Paul Eminem's manager and Rosenberg and fucking Rob Reef. Tulo was in the building. Yeah, Seat and a half. Yo, Nems is. He loves the show.
Jadakiss
Not after he called him seat and a half.
Fat Joe
I don't give a fuck. You gotta understand, the whole shit is. Even if I'm making jokes about you, if I'm saying SNS with the. With the mustard shirt, he getting bookings. He called me and said, thank you, Joe. My bookings are going up. We the hottest shit moving out here right now.
Jadakiss
Collab on them with the shirt with the mustard on it.
Fat Joe
No, that. That. No collab with him when I tell you SNF. Well, who's your favorite DJs of all time? No, no, I ain't doing that. I'm just saying, that mean, like, around, like, three DJs. I'll tell you, mine's twist of a finger. Yeah, My really quick.
Jadakiss
Let me hear it. I'll let you go first. It's not even a competition, you know.
Fat Joe
Pride comes before the fall. But let me say something, right? I'm Kid Capri still. What do you want me to do? SNS say for Master Flex, Just on.
Jadakiss
That radio, you're only doing three, right? You're only doing three. Three.
Fat Joe
Nah, I gotta throw Ted Smooth somewhere in there.
Jadakiss
All right, four.
Fat Joe
It's an honorable mention.
Jadakiss
Who else? No, no, you go only four. Three with an honorable mention, I would do. It's three with an honorable fight.
Fat Joe
He always changed the rules. Three with an honorable mention. So my honorable mention is Tess. Move. That's cool.
Jadakiss
I like those. That was very beautiful.
Fat Joe
Too rich to put him in the.
Jadakiss
DJ you just throwing.
Fat Joe
No, no, I'm just saying, he Too rich, Cala. Too rich.
Jadakiss
He's just gonna keep blowing up this.
Fat Joe
No, no, no. All right, be nice.
Jadakiss
Recipes, Clark Kent. I mean, I'm throwing my DJ tech in there, then I'm coming back. DJ Jazzy Jeff.
Fat Joe
Oh, my God. I only said four. I said three in the honorable.
Jadakiss
Yeah, I did three. I only did what I did.
Fat Joe
You went to Jazzy Jackson.
Jadakiss
All right, well, it may get that I ain't got.
Fat Joe
I ain't even gonna lie to you.
Jadakiss
I just named you four for right there.
Fat Joe
I love all the guys you said.
Jadakiss
I love all the guys you said.
Fat Joe
And there's so many DJs that we could have mentioned. You know what I'm saying?
Jadakiss
Biz Marky, rest in peace.
Fat Joe
Bismarck used to rock it.
Jadakiss
Vashti. See, I start naming shit to him.
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jadakiss
With that hat. What's that hat?
Fat Joe
Cassidy.
Jadakiss
Yeah, Cassidy.
Fat Joe
My man Cassidy's different.
Jadakiss
My man Cassidy with that.
Fat Joe
He's an eclectic chase, you know, I mean, he's one of the biggest ever, you know, One of the things the clip said on that album is we create content. We not content creators. And so the mind of somebody being creative, you know, thinking that we thought of Joe and Jada, who. Who thought of this combination. It'll work the way it is because it feels like yin and yang or the odd couples. You know what I'm saying? I say some crazy shit and you thinking like normal people think he's saying some crazy shit, right? But the magic of creating something, music, anything, you know, you. The Juice, who came up with the concept to have the Juice bars out.
Jadakiss
Of us is SP Styles. Styles is first to even, you know, make that a thing. Shout out to my brothers Nye and Leo. But Pete was the first one to get us on the health kick.
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Fat Joe
You know we got some shit we doing today.
Jadakiss
Hit the link right there below and you can call the number up and ask Joe and Jada anything you want. I think we have some. Let's get into this.
Fat Joe
Yo, what's good?
Jadakiss
This BG from Virginia, man, representing that.
Fat Joe
Hip hop in the job preserving the culture. I just want to salute y' all.
Jadakiss
For doing just that, man.
Fat Joe
Salute to Jada and Joe for preserving the culture.
Jadakiss
Man, this hip hop thing, 50 years.
Fat Joe
And going and that's it, man. That's all.
Jadakiss
Salute to y'.
Fat Joe
All.
Jadakiss
Keep it going.
Fat Joe
Keep up the great work. Peace and love from va. Hip hop in the jar. Preserving the culture.
Jadakiss
Peace hip hop in the jaw. Preserving the culture. Big shout out and love the va.
Fat Joe
You know, I mean, love my brother.
Jadakiss
We ain't gonna get a lot of them kind of calls, so that was. We appreciate that.
Fat Joe
Yo, Jada in the one Take Cipher Red Bull freestyle. What's that hoodie you're wearing? That pink one? The dude's on it. That shit's flies. I need to know where to cop that.
Jadakiss
Oh, I Got that from downtown, from this shout out to Millie's. Millie's plugged me with his man Danny, and it's a new store downtown that I get all the info. I'll get it to you, my brother. You can actually have the hoodie that I had on. I can't wear it again, too. You can actually get that actual one I wore. Just DM me or do something, you know what I mean? Hit us up somehow on the show and I'll give you the actual hoodie. I only got one of the hoodies, so it's only one.
Fat Joe
Forget about it.
Jadakiss
We got his name and all that. Yeah, we got his name. I got you. He gonna get that.
Fat Joe
Next question. Joe and Jada. Hey, Joe and Jada.
Jadakiss
What's good, man?
Fat Joe
This is David, originally from Queens, New York, but I live in Houston now.
Jadakiss
Been listening to you guys since I was about 13, 14 years old. So it's amazing to see you guys together. That's so entertaining.
Fat Joe
The one question I ask is, has.
Jadakiss
There ever been an artist or artists that you guys ever want to collaborate with, but just never had the opportunity to? And if, you know, if you couldn't, like, what was the reason? Or is it just because, you know, they might have passed away or whatever like that? What's the one dream collaboration you guys ever wanted to do? Andre Three Stacks and Stevie Wonder for.
Fat Joe
Me, I said Dr. Dre. But, you know, he took it a little different because he said, people ain't here no more. If I could ever get just some Luto, some MJ ad libs, get some he. You know, that's that. That's the ultimate collab for me. Next question. Yo, Jada, Joe, good looking on the podcast. Y' all doing great. Real quick question, though. Top five beats y' all ever hopped on with? Top ten beats y' all ever hopped on or top ten beats of all time. I'd rather hear y' all top 10. I might get exposed to some nut, some new. But yeah, good looking and keep it up, guys. One good looking.
Jadakiss
Whoever that was, we're gonna save that one and talk about it on a. We gotta think about it, and then we gonna use it for one of your damn things you like to do. But we're not gonna do 10, we're gonna do five.
Fat Joe
Okay?
Jadakiss
That you rapped on or that that you rapped on and that I rapped on.
Fat Joe
And now. Aha. My shit. Bring it on. I think the alchemist did that. Boom, bam, bam. Then my lifestyle buck. Wow. Right? And definition of a don that's the Alchemist again, Primo. Thank God for that White. And it's always for me, you know, My favorite song I ever did in my life is the collaboration with Pun. Deep Cover. You know what I'm saying? So those are my favorite five beats I ever rapped to.
Jadakiss
I thought he was gonna keep going like he usually do. No. Oh, shit. See, this ain't really bad. This ain't really hard because I don't gotta think I could just say anything I want. All for the Love, which is Swiss.
Fat Joe
Wow.
Jadakiss
All for the Love, Swizz's first placement. And before Stop Drop. People don't know that first Locks album, my solo song, all for the Love that Swizz beats. First beat in the world that got placed on the album. First placement. Bam. We gonna make it Alchemist. I mean, Alchemist did. We gonna make it Benjamin's D dot. Derek Angeletti. I mean, why shout out to my man Havoc for Mobb Deep. I mean, Havoc did.
Fat Joe
Why?
Jadakiss
Yeah. Recognize Primo alike. Next question, please. MLP style.
Fat Joe
Hey.
Jadakiss
Hey.
Caller
Joe and Jada. Legends. Legends. My question is. My name is Joe, by the way, from Fitchburg, Massachusetts.
Jadakiss
I didn't even know that.
Caller
Question is, how did you guys develop such longevity in the game to where you guys came out in the 90s and still now everybody wants to hear what you guys have to say. Every. Everybody wants to dress how you guys dress. Everybody wants to, like, live the lifestyle of you guys. Everybody still wants to hear the music you guys drop. Like, how did you guys just have that kind of longevity in this culture that's so different right now? Like, you see how. How the music and how. How everybody, you know, what they. What they. What they want out of life is just so different than we had. What kind of words can you give the guys that are in their 30s and their 40s right now just to keep that level of cool with the culture right now?
Jadakiss
Good luck. Yeah, a lot.
Fat Joe
Got a lot to say, huh?
Jadakiss
I say the longevity thing is embracing the. Embracing the new stuff that comes out without compromising what you stand for and what you represent. Being able to be talked to, being approachable, being able to reach the people and all that other shit is him.
Fat Joe
Well, you just gotta believe in yourself, you know what I'm saying? At all times, as an artist, as a man or a female, as a person.
Jadakiss
Self confidence.
Fat Joe
You gotta have that self confidence and believe in yourself. You know how many times they counted me out and, you know, I got stories like, I got jerked from my publishing for like 12 to 15 years of my career. And so I was hearing about everybody getting these publishing deals, and then for millions of dollars, Ludacris came. He was like, yo, I got this publishing deal for millions. I was hearing all the rappers. So when I finally got my publishing back, I go around to all the Warner Brothers, everywhere that was. And Warner Chapel and this. And they were, like, looking at me like, you know, listening to me, and they were like, yeah, all right. And they was offering me shit, like, $200,000 and all that. And I went. And I remember I went in my car, and my lawyer at the time, he came to the car, was like, yo, I thought they was giving people millions. He was like, yo, Joe, you're not hot right now. I was like, you know, I mean, I guess that's part of the narcissism or the delusion when he said that. The next day, I had drove down to Miami to meet with Scott Storch, and we made Lean Back. I came back to New York maybe a month later with Lean Back fully done and went back to the same people. They wasn't trying to leave me. Let me go out the office. They was offering me EMS like crazy, because they knew it. And I was showing them the dance. Lean Back. They were like, oh, no, don't leave. Hold up. We got some M's for you. We got some this and this and that. So at the end of the day, the only way to be to make you believe in us is we gotta believe in ourselves.
Jadakiss
Next question, please.
Caller
Yo, kiss. Yo, Joe. What's going on? Dre from Mas. Joe, I had a quick question. What was it like to see Jada on stage with Dipset versus the Locks when he put on that freestyle and he said, this is what I do. What was going through your brain? And what did you think of Jada after that? I love the show. Y' all keep going, Massachusetts. Stand up. We love y'. All. Peace.
Fat Joe
And thanks for the question.
Jadakiss
Is that before COVID or after? Did you know you caught Covid in there?
Fat Joe
No, I did catch COVID in there. Yeah, for the first time.
Jadakiss
That's ill.
Fat Joe
But the craziest shit is he sacrificed his life.
Jadakiss
He came to check me out.
Fat Joe
Nah, I was torn right between both of y'. All. I thought y' all were gonna win. But Dip said, ain't nothing to smile at. You know what I mean? So I. I think they could have did a lot better if they would have sequenced it right.
Jadakiss
Facts.
Fat Joe
But I was in there, and I didn't want to see you see me cheering for them. I didn't want them to see me cheering for you. I was in a. I was in a fucked up position, right? So I'm. I'm sitting there like that. I'm like, what you said. Jada should have wore a wig. Should have wore a wig. I should have came in the sky. I'm up. I had the little thing. And then they do on the welcome to New York City. They do all the home of 9 11. And I'm not going to lie to you, that fucked me up. I forgot all about New York. I was like, oh, my God, they doing this. And then when y' all dropped that boom, boom, boom, boom. I couldn't even hide my, My, my colors. Like, I was like, yo, you see that video when you talking all that shit that they. The camera goes to me and I'm like, oh. Like I did at that point. If it wasn't Dipset, I definitely would have jumped up on that, on that ring and. And try to do New York with you right there at that. Versus the shit was crazy because I'm not going diss my guys too. But that's one of the most epic 20th century hip hop moments. You know, we heard A, back in the day, like Kumo D Busy B, we heard of, you know, KRS1 throwing p.m. dawn off the stage. We heard of these legendary times. But in our generation, that right there was. It was just incredible. It was like the Beatles coming to America. Some wild shit like that. It was like. Cause, you know, you see the Beatles come to America, you see them girls at the fucking airport by the millions, like, they. They couldn't believe they was coming. That's how it felt that night. It felt like it was some shit we had never witnessed before. You know, Michael Buffer came out in this corner from Harlem, New York. That was crazy. Yo, that whole night was just perfection. It was just perfection.
Jadakiss
It was a win for hip hop. Next question, please.
Fat Joe
Hey, this is Nate, Joe and Jada. You guys are legends in hip hop. I have individual playlists of both of you guys, and I really appreciate your contribution to hip hop. With that stated, is there a feature on an artist song that was supremely impactful in your lives? Also, is there a feature from an artist that you wanted to get but never had the chance to get? A feature that impacted my life a lot was AZ on Nas's Illmatic. I never heard nobody flow like that. So smoothly changed our life.
Jadakiss
And.
Fat Joe
I've always wanted, you know, he's happy with his career and Everything. But I always wanted, I really thought AZ was gonna be like a Nas or Jay Z, you know, on that super level. But if we talking features, that's the one that stands out the most to me. If I could pick two. All right, I'm not gonna pick two.
Jadakiss
Me. It had to be Nas. Live at the barbecue that us up. When we heard that, it was like, it was, it was incredibly incredible. For some young. The whole song was incredible, but Nas's verse was just crazy, you know what I mean?
Fat Joe
For me, at the age of 12, I went to hell for Snuff of Jesus. We never even heard shit.
Jadakiss
Nobody say nothing even remotely closer.
Fat Joe
That shit was like, hello. You know, that was like, somebody's coming. There you go. We got Nas in both those. It's crazy. Next question, please.
Caller
I got a two parted question for both.
Fat Joe
Two parted questions.
Caller
So I was listening to 40 Bars of Terror where Jada rapped over the yeah yeah yeah beat on, on the Lean Back on the. On the Terror Squad album. So I wanted to know, Jada, how you get into that mindset to hit those balls with such surgical precision? And then the second question is, what was Joe's reaction when he heard those bars? Did you ever think about making it an official remix? Or was that dad, did you hear the bars? Like, nah, I'm not putting him on my record because he buy he body my shit. So yeah, that's, that's what I would like to know.
Jadakiss
For me, for them me, that song was in song. Anytime I do a freestyle is paying homage to this original song because you like it that much. But that 40 bars of terror, yeah, the beat, I couldn't wait to use that beat. I was doing the Champions here part one. So I was doing the whole mixtape. And that was definitely after they dropped that song. I'm like, I need that. That's definitely going to be one of the instrumentals I use. So yeah, that was. For me, it's always homage. Anytime you hear me doing any bars on somebody beat, it's because you like the original beat. Especially when you do 40 bars or more, you really love the beat. You know what I mean?
Fat Joe
40 bars. I don't know, man. I just, you know, I love Jadakiss. Every time he raps, I think he's one of the few. I ain't trying to gas this dude. He don't need it right now. But you know, every time he raps, I, I feel like he's one of the. Man, he's one of the very, very, very, very, very few MCs that. I think he kill every verse you ever did. So it's like, you know, I give that to Big, too. Somebody like Jay Z, you know. You know, it's very rare that a rapper kill every verse I ever heard, so gotta always salute Jada for that.
Jadakiss
Appreciate that. Next question, please.
Caller
Joe and Jada, what's up? This is Riverside Slim.
Jadakiss
Crazy.
Caller
Hey, yo, but this one for Jada. Jada, is there any rap song or R and B song, whatever, that you wanted to write a verse to or, you know, wish it was your track? Out of all tracks, which one? You was like, man, I could have did a ill verse on that.
Jadakiss
John. I think every song that's a hit, you feel like you could. You wish you could have been featured on it.
Fat Joe
But how many features have you been on, J.D. do you ever did the numbers?
Jadakiss
They ain't going to do the analytics on me till I'm dead.
Fat Joe
Cracks.
Jadakiss
Then they going to start finding all kind of incredible new shit that I did that they could have told me when I was alive. But what do you say? Something you wish you was on that you saw? I go from in the club, lean back all the way up, I actually did a remix or that Me and Fab. Any song that's a hit you wish you was a part of, any song that make you want to be on it, that's how you know it's a hit. For me, it's everything that everything. Bunch of Drake songs, bunch of Rick Ross shits, Kanye, all of them shits that come out, you're like, damn, why did it. Fuck did they call me for this?
Fat Joe
You know the one song I hear all the time that I be like, damn, I could have been on, I bought. You know, I. I should have been on. That was. Was the French song pop that.
Jadakiss
Oh, yeah. Damn, you didn't. You missed it.
Fat Joe
You missed it. That song right there, Every time I hear it, I'm like, man, I wish I was on that song. You know, it's just that energy that comes on whenever I work out in the gym I work out.
Jadakiss
That's a good song, that. Matter of fact, I gotta try working out there. That's a good song.
Fat Joe
Oh, no, no, that's Hype Mania. That right there, that should get you hyped.
Jadakiss
Balling, balling, like in the New England.
Fat Joe
Like a play for new whiskey. Sheesh. You know, something that came across my desk, somebody was talking, it was like, you know, that young kids, you know, we have a real weird space in hip hop because, like, young Kids, they ain't trying to spit. You know, when we was out there starting, we was busting our bubble to come up with some shit. Nowadays, these kids sound effects and it's over before it starts because these guys find a way to either get killed or kill somebody before they even really, really blow up like that. And so you see kids nowadays saying they don't even want to rap. They rather be streamers, because they watching guys like Kasa, not Aiden, and them dudes going to the bank. So kids, now, it's almost like we have a lack of talent. No offense to anybody doing their thing, but we have a lack of talent because kids want to go another way for the first time, instead of just saying, I want to be a rapper, they say, I want to be a streamer, and it's less dangerous. They're getting up there, they joking, they're making money, they're having fun, they dancing, and they're not dying. What do you think about that?
Jadakiss
I'm always put the music first. But you. You write about that. It's becoming a very dangerous game in a dangerous space. And they drilling and spinning and sliding and doing all of them shits and decreasing the population. So probably make some of the younger kids don't want to do it. It's also making some of the younger kids want to do it. So you got to keep an eye on.
Fat Joe
On.
Jadakiss
On that part of it. But, you know, streaming is dope. But I love streaming. I love. I put music first because I'm an artist and I want to see more music. I want to see more artists. I want to see. Hear more rapping, you know, I mean, more substance. But as long as they can stay out of trouble, make money, do whatever they do, that's always a beautiful thing.
Fat Joe
Why it seems like all the time, my friends who are my age or a little bit younger get back in the gym and start working out crazy. And they lifting up the whole gym and they tear their shoulder. They always get hurt.
Jadakiss
These guys lifting too heavy.
Fat Joe
There was a guy, yo, but I mean, like, everybody starts working out, they hurt themselves. They always. Yo, how's the gym? Oh, tore my. Did this now. What the are y' all doing in there? Me, I'd rather just take Ozempic and take a walk.
Jadakiss
And with that being said, ladies and.
Fat Joe
Gentlemen, this is the Joe 53.
Jadakiss
Where you can look 35. I look 35, where you can look 13.
Fat Joe
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Jadakiss
Yeah. I mean, Joe and Jill and Jada, we like POW.
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Podcast Summary: Joe and Jada – Episode on Drake's UK Rap Take, "Lean Back" History, Taylor-Serrano III & Top Hip Hop DJs
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with Fat Joe and Jadakiss diving straight into the heart of the discussion, bypassing the standard advertisements and introductions. The hosts establish a casual yet insightful atmosphere, setting the tone for a deep dive into contemporary and classic hip hop topics.
Discussion Highlights: Fat Joe and Jadakiss recount their experiences attending Amanda Serrano III’s fight, highlighting the emotional and cultural significance of the event.
Support and Promotion: Both hosts discuss their role in promoting Serrano's fights alongside other figures like Katie Taylor and Sean Stevens.
Fat Joe [02:49]: "We was doing a lot of promoting for Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano... There be no fourth and fifth. Serrano and Taylor. There won't be another."
Fight Atmosphere: They reflect on the electrifying atmosphere at Madison Square Garden, reminiscent of significant cultural events.
Fat Joe [03:16]: "That stadium, Madison Square Garden felt like... People were fighting each other. It was crazy in there."
Emotional Toll: Fat Joe expresses personal heartbreak over Serrano's loss, emphasizing the community's emotional investment.
Fat Joe [05:25]: "Balanga hurt me bad. Cause we lost Amanda Serrano."
Audience Reaction: The hosts critique the audience's fickle support, especially in the digital age where social media can distort public perception.
Fat Joe [09:06]: "He had to learn this lesson. This was tough for him."
Discussion Highlights: A significant portion of the episode focuses on the current state of the US rap scene compared to the burgeoning UK rap movement, with specific mentions of influential artists.
UK Rap's Rise: They discuss Skepta's critique of US rap and the broader implications of UK rappers like Jordan Lucas making bold statements about the US scene.
Fat Joe [11:48]: "He said the whole United States fell off. All the rappers are trash."
Drake’s Influence: The duo touches upon Drake's role in bridging US and UK rap, co-signing UK artists, and how this has injected new energy into the genre.
Fat Joe [12:43]: "Drake went up there and co-signed a man that said the best lyricist is from the UK."
Competitive Nature of Hip Hop: Both hosts acknowledge hip hop as a competitive "blood sport," evolving with digital advancements.
Jadakiss [13:36]: "This is a competitive blood sport. It always been just the new evolution of digital technology."
Fat Joe's Perspective on US Rap: He opines that while UK rap is innovating, the US still holds its ground with legendary contributions.
Fat Joe [13:36]: "But the whole United States. Come on, kiss like, you know, you can't."
Discussion Highlights: Fat Joe and Jadakiss share their favorite DJs, reflecting on their influence and legacy within hip hop.
Fat Joe’s Picks:
Kid Capri: Praised for his longevity and impact.
Fat Joe [18:34]: "I'm Kid Capri still."
Master Flex and Ted Smooth: Recognized for their contributions to the culture.
Fat Joe [18:48]: "He always changed the rules. Three with an honorable mention."
Jadakiss’s Choices:
DJ Jazzy Jeff: Celebrated for his timeless influence and legendary status.
Jadakiss [19:36]: "DJ Jazzy Jeff."
Additional Mentions: Shout-outs to Biz Markie and DJ Cassidy, highlighting their unique styles and contributions.
Jadakiss [20:02]: "Vashti. See, I start naming shit to him."
Mutual Respect: Both hosts express deep respect for the DJs, acknowledging their role in shaping hip hop's soundscape.
Fat Joe [19:54]: "I love all the guys you said."
Discussion Highlights: A central theme of the episode is the hosts' commitment to preserving the essence of hip hop amidst its evolving landscape.
Creating Content vs. Content Creators: Fat Joe emphasizes the collaborative spirit needed to maintain hip hop’s authenticity.
Fat Joe [20:18]: "We create content. We not content creators."
Yin and Yang Dynamic: The interplay between Fat Joe’s humor and Jadakiss’s seriousness is highlighted as a unique blend that resonates with audiences.
Fat Joe [20:18]: "It feels like yin and yang or the odd couples."
Influence on Youth: They discuss the importance of role models who have risen from challenging backgrounds to succeed, inspiring the next generation.
Fat Joe [13:49]: "You're the first in a generation of hundreds of DNA lines to become successful."
Discussion Highlights: Listeners engage with Fat Joe and Jadakiss by posing questions about their favorite collaborations, the secret to their enduring presence in the industry, and their perspectives on new trends.
Dream Collaborations:
Fat Joe: Expresses a desire to collaborate with legends like Dr. Dre and incorporate iconic figures like Tupac’s ad-libs.
Fat Joe [26:16]: "I said Dr. Dre. But... I could have some Tupac ad libs, get some he."
Jadakiss: Mentions Nas’s verses as incredibly impactful and a highlight of his own career.
Jadakiss [36:25]: "When we heard that, it was like, it was incredible... Nas's verse was just crazy."
Top Beats:
Fat Joe: Lists influential beats like "Lean Back" and praises producers like The Alchemist.
Fat Joe [27:35]: "Boom, bam, bam. Then my Lifestyle buck... The Alchemist again, Primo."
Jadakiss: Highlights Swizz Beatz’s “All for the Love” and credits foundational producers like Havoc for Mobb Deep.
Jadakiss [28:24]: "Swizz's first placement... Shout out to my man Havoc for Mobb Deep."
Maintaining Longevity:
Jadakiss: Attributes their enduring success to embracing new trends without compromising their core values, staying approachable, and being relevant.
Jadakiss [30:13]: "Embracing the new stuff that comes out without compromising what you stand for."
Fat Joe: Emphasizes self-confidence and belief in oneself as crucial for sustained success.
Fat Joe [30:35]: "The only way to make you believe in us is we gotta believe in ourselves."
Discussion Highlights: The hosts reminisce about memorable moments in their careers, sharing personal stories that underline their deep-rooted connection to hip hop culture.
Jadakiss narrates the electrifying experience of seeing Jada perform with Dipset, comparing it to historic cultural phenomena like The Beatles’ arrival in America.
Jadakiss [32:52]: "It was like the Beatles coming to America. Some wild shit like that."
Fat Joe discusses the internal conflict of supporting both sides and the overwhelming emotions during the event.
Fat Joe [33:07]: "I was torn right between both of y'. All I thought y' all were gonna win."
Discussion Highlights: Fat Joe and Jadakiss delve into the evolving preferences of younger generations, touching upon the shift from rap aspirations to streaming careers.
Changing Aspirations:
Fat Joe: Observes that many young artists today prefer being streamers over rappers due to the safer and more stable nature of the profession.
Fat Joe [41:47]: "Kids nowadays say they don't even want to rap. They rather be streamers."
Jadakiss: Notes the double-edged sword of modern hip hop, where some are deterred by the dangers while others are attracted to the trends.
Jadakiss [43:07]: "It's becoming a very dangerous game... So probably make some of the younger kids don't want to do it."
Preserving Musical Substance:
Both hosts advocate for maintaining musical quality and substance, encouraging new artists to focus on meaningful contributions.
Jadakiss [43:32]: "I put music first because I'm an artist and I want to see more music."
The episode wraps up with heartfelt messages to their listeners, emphasizing the importance of community and cultural preservation.
Acknowledging Listeners:
Fat Joe [24:14]: "Salute to y'."
Encouraging Engagement:
The hosts invite listeners to reach out for exclusive merchandise and continue supporting hip hop culture.
Jadakiss [25:27]: "We got his name and all that. I got you. He gonna get that."
Final Affirmations:
They conclude by reiterating their commitment to preserving hip hop and inspiring the next generation.
Fat Joe [44:32]: "And if you need energy, get that Kiss Cafe, baby."
[03:16] Fat Joe: "That stadium, Madison Square Garden felt like... People were fighting each other. It was crazy in there."
[11:48] Fat Joe: "He said the whole United States fell off. All the rappers are trash."
[18:34] Fat Joe: "I'm Kid Capri still."
[30:35] Fat Joe: "The only way to make you believe in us is we gotta believe in ourselves."
[32:52] Jadakiss: "It was like the Beatles coming to America. Some wild shit like that."
[43:07] Jadakiss: "It's becoming a very dangerous game... So probably make some of the younger kids don't want to do it."
[44:32] Jadakiss: "Where you can look 35. I look 35, where you can look 13."
In this engaging episode, Fat Joe and Jadakiss provide an in-depth analysis of the current state of hip hop, blending personal anecdotes with industry insights. From dissecting the dynamics between US and UK rap to celebrating the legends who shaped the sound, the hosts offer a comprehensive look at the culture's past, present, and future. Their unwavering commitment to preserving hip hop’s integrity and mentoring the next generation underscores the episode’s profound impact, making it a must-listen for both longtime fans and newcomers eager to understand the genre’s evolving landscape.