Fat Joe & Jadakiss on Tekashi 6ix9ine & hip hop's SNITCHING era, Shedeur Sanders, WILD jail stories

Summary

Joe and Jada Podcast – Episode Summary

Title: Fat Joe & Jadakiss on Tekashi 6ix9ine & Hip-Hop's SNITCHING Era, Shedeur Sanders, WILD Jail Stories
Release Date: August 19, 2025
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jadakiss

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Main Theme / Purpose

Fat Joe and Jadakiss use their twice-weekly show to explore the evolution–and erosion–of moral and cultural codes in hip-hop. This episode centers on the rise of “the snitching era,” focusing especially on Tekashi 6ix9ine and the current cultural climate where collaboration with law enforcement by rappers no longer destroys their careers. Other themes include family loyalty, the changing fabric of street credibility, Shedeur Sanders’ football journey, hilarious food talk, and wild stories from jail.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Loss of the “Code” in Hip-Hop and Rise of the “Snitching Era”

• Fat Joe opens with: “There just isn’t no code no more.” (02:03)
• Both hosts lament the shift in hip-hop where loyalty and silent integrity (not snitching) held more weight than now.
• They note modern hip-hop culture increasingly tolerates people who cooperate with law enforcement, provided they make hit records.
• Referencing podcasts and social media, Fat Joe critiques the way controversy, beef, and disrespect have become content, saying, “They lead with controversy, we lead with love. We here with the spirit of hip hop.” (03:07)

“Too Many Fredos, Not Enough Michaels”

• Fat Joe: “Too many Fredos, not enough Michaels, that’s a fact.” (02:39, 15:28)
  Reference to The Godfather: too many traitors, not enough loyal leaders.

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2. Family, Loyalty, and Social Media Drama

• Joe and Jada explore the importance of loyalty to your roots and family, warning against cutting off your parents/family for romantic partners.
  • Fat Joe: “I never respected men who get a wife and get so in love with them that they forget their mother and their family.” (05:25)
  • Jada: “That’s kind of cowardly. It should never be no reason for you to cut off your moms or your parents.” (06:00)
• They discuss the Finesse2tymes situation—his mother’s social media plea—and empathize with complex family drama (10:47–13:37). Fat Joe encourages reconciliation:
  • “If you can find it in the heart, if you can seek the Lord, work it out with your moms.” (13:34)
• Jada highlights misconceptions about their backgrounds:
  • “People think I grew up like the Huxtables... It’s a blessing to have both of your parents if you can have both.” (07:00)

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3. Who Broke the Code? Infamous “Rats” from Mafia to Hip-Hop

• Fat Joe and Jada trace how the “no snitching” principle collapsed, invoking mob informants (Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, Alpo) and eventually Tekashi 6ix9ine:
  • “Sammy the Bull is a superior rat... Sammy the Bull is the most famous rat on the earth.” (16:40, 17:45)
  • “Alpo was a killer. He’s a rat.” (17:13)
  • Fat Joe: “The day 6ix9ine sat on that stand...he put a lot of good people in jail, man. That told the youth, oh, it’s over. You can rata, whatever, come home, you still the shit.” (18:18, 20:08)

Cultural Shift

• The rise of Tekashi 6ix9ine marks a turning point, underscored by massive online attention:“He had 2 million people watching on live…to see a rat.” (20:10)
• Fat Joe reflects, “Now you got some guys that are the hottest guys in the game. Rats.” (23:54)

Notable Quotes

• “There’s no such thing as a credible rat.” – Jada (16:25)
• “You can’t rat and kill and be justified.” – Fat Joe (16:53)

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4. Separating Art from the Artist…or Not?

• Both hosts share discomfort with the idea of supporting snitches because they “make good music.”
• Fat Joe confesses to enjoying an album by a rumored “rat” (implied to be Gunna), but feels guilty:
  • “All I said was fire. It’s a million raps that you like his album. If you liked it, you just said…you enjoyed it and then said nah.” (24:52, 25:01, 25:04)

Fat Joe’s Personal Code

• Describes breaking off a lifelong friendship when someone co-operated with the feds:“I loved him…But because of the code, I can’t fuck with them” (27:08)

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5. The Shedeur Sanders Segment – Talent vs. Systemic Bias

• Fat Joe and Jada celebrate Shedeur Sanders’ football debut, highlighting how he surpassed doubters and showed NFL-level poise.
  • “He defined every [expectation]…They put him in there for failure and he blew everybody.” (28:59)
• Fat Joe rails against the NFL passing on Shedeur Sanders deep into the draft, connecting it to racial and institutional bias:
  • “How do you pass him a hundred something times? That’s disrespect.” (30:18)
  • “He’s better than Dak Prescott. I know it’s only one game, but there’s so many teams that could have used this guy.” (30:31)

The Art of Timing (in Sports and Music)

• They compare Sanders’ success to "timing" in hip-hop, comedy, and athletics.
  • “Timing was so precise…and that’s what you need in a Tom Brady and a Pat Mahomes and somebody who got…that chill.” (31:02)
• Jada notes: “It’s called a trick in the song. Hits like ‘Wish I Never Met Him’—there’s a trick that makes the whole hit.” (33:46)

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6. “Turkey Chop” Tangent & Food Culture

• A recurring comic sidebar about Fat Joe’s elusive quest for turkey chops in New York.
  • “Yo, everybody who told me, ‘yo, it’s turkey chops’—I sent them to get me turkey chops. Nobody bought back…Can we instacart him some turkey chops right now?” (34:53, 35:53)
• Playful banter about exclusive foods, rarity, and neighborhood legends.

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7. Wild Jail Stories & Survival

• Both hosts swap tales of their (relatively short) time incarcerated.
  • Fat Joe: “Never really brag about jail because I only did four months. I got friends that did 20, 30, 40 years.” (38:15)
  • Jada: “I only did four days…looking out the window, looking at the bus stop.” (38:18)
• Fat Joe describes jail’s brutal social codes:
  • “There’s four tables with four chairs…2,000 guys…Of course I got a table, right?” (40:43)
  • “I watch people get smacked, punched in the face and say, my bad, and keep walking.” (41:53)
• Hilarious stories of “stunting” in jail: outdoing other inmates with a record number of real eggs; the chaos caused by wearing exclusive Jordans; befriending an ostracized white inmate (“Hong Kong’s Mongolian”)—and more.
  • “They all looked and wanted to see my first reaction when I had his food. This was dog. This food, right? My dog was eating better than this.” (42:43)
  • On the Jordans, Fat Joe gets “ratted” out: “They all called on me about the Jordans. But, you know, jail was different. I don’t advise nobody to go there. To me, it’s like communism. It’s a third world country.” (56:33)

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8. Supporting Black Entrepreneurship & Tour Announcements

• Fat Joe and Jada stress the importance of supporting black businesses and fellow MCs
  • “Anytime one of us open a business, do anything like that, we got to pull up. Facts. That’s the American dream, being an entrepreneur.” (59:29)
• Fat Joe plugs an upcoming tour: “Havoc of Mobb Deep. Raekwon the Chef. Lox. Lox is on that tour.” (57:28)
• Discussion of cannabis brands and exclusive samples.

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9. Clinton Anecdote & Closing Banter

• A tongue-in-cheek story about Bill Clinton wearing TS Air Force sneakers and his legendary “ladies’ man” reputation in the White House.
  • Fat Joe: “Bill Clinton pulled him in a room and was like, yo, where the hoes at, bro?” (62:42)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | 02:03 | “There just isn’t no code no more.” | Fat Joe | | 03:07 | “They lead with controversy, we lead with love. We here with the spirit of hip hop.” | Fat Joe | | 05:25 | “I never respected men who get a wife and get so in love with them that they forget their mother and their family.” | Fat Joe | | 06:00 | “That’s kind of cowardly. It should never be no reason for you to cut off your moms or your parents.” | Jada | | 13:34 | “If you can find it in the heart, if you can seek the Lord, work it out with your moms.” | Fat Joe | | 16:25 | “There’s no such thing as a credible rat.” | Jada | | 17:45 | “Sammy the Bull is the most famous rat on the earth.” | Fat Joe | | 20:10 | “He had 2 million people watching on live…to see a rat.” | Fat Joe | | 25:53 | “You said you like the album.” | Jada | | 27:08 | “…Because of the code, I can’t fuck with them.” | Fat Joe | | 31:02 | “His timing was so precise...that’s what you need in a Tom Brady and a Pat Mahomes.” | Fat Joe | | 33:46 | “It’s called a trick in the song…He said the same thing? No, he just—” | Jada | | 34:53 | “Order this guy some turkey chops, man. Send it to the crib.” | Jada | | 42:43 | “All of them looked and wanted to see my first reaction when you had his food. This was dog. This food, right? My dog was eating better than this.” | Fat Joe | | 56:33 | “It’s Miami’s the hub…do you know every floor I go to, whose name I hear the most? Fat Joe.”| Assistant Warden| | 57:28 | “That was…you know, they all called on me about the Jordans.” | Fat Joe | | 59:29 | “Anytime one of us open a business…we got to pull up facts. That’s the American dream.” | Fat Joe | | 62:42 | “Bill Clinton pulled him in a room and was like, yo, where the hoes at, bro?” | Fat Joe |

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Opening riffs/rants on losing the code, social media, and controversy: 02:03–08:14
• On family, loyalty, social media airing of grievances: 05:25–13:38
• The snitching trope, Sammy the Bull, Alpo, Tekashi: 14:27–21:03
• Modern rappers, art vs artist, Rats still winning: 23:54–28:34
• Shedeur Sanders NFL discourse + hip-hop timing: 28:35–34:16
• Food humor, turkey chop saga: 34:17–38:08
• Jail stories, survival, stunting with eggs/Jordans: 38:15–57:28
• Tour plug, black entrepreneurship: 57:28–60:55
• Presidential sneaker anecdote, Bill Clinton: 61:49–63:41

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Tone & Vibe

The episode blends Fat Joe’s animated storytelling with Jada’s dry wit. Both hosts move seamlessly between comedic riffs, street wisdom, and honest self-reflection. Their back-and-forth is candid, streetwise, and full of legendary New York perspective—a blend of nostalgia, unfiltered critique, and affection for hip-hop culture.

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Ideal for listeners interested in:

• Evolution of hip-hop’s street code and authenticity
• Juicy insider stories from rap, sports, and behind bars
• Honest, hilarious, and occasionally wild banter between two certified icons
• Black entrepreneurship, music critique, sports, and cultural commentary
• The line between entertainment, morality, and survival in modern celebrity culture

Transcript

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[Jada]

There's rats everywhere.

[Fat Joe]

Too many Fredos, not enough Michaels that's a fact. What's up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack the Dawn.

[Jada]

It's your boy Jada. You know what? It is, the Joe and Jada Show. Welcome to our world, where we get.

[Fat Joe]

Paid to be the flyest dudes in the game and talk shit. This is amazing. This world, right? 20, 25 is something special, right? We get to come up here, throw that shit on, and talk shit. It's so crazy, right? Because, yo, Jada, now I'm locked in, right? You locked in, too. You don't realize you locked in. You coming through like, all right, but you really locked in on this podcast shit. And I analyzed this podcast world, and most of them, if we go according to the list that they put out, most of them lead off controversy. Everything they do is controversy. Sit up in there, talk about girls, talk about dudes like this all they shit. If you look at that whole list, all these guys are just amplifying the hate. They actually have some podcasters. They made people kill each other on their podcast. Like, yo, this guy said, fuck your mother. Are you gonna kill him, yo? Or this, this, this. They went and killed each other, and they want reparations. They're like, yo, what. What's my man? Who was it, G Herbo or something? He said, yo, y' all gotta donate something back to the hood. Cause y'. All. The point is, they lead with controversy, we lead with love. We here with the spirit of hip hop. We here to preserve the culture. And we walk with God. We walk with God. I'm looking. You know what I'm saying? On ig, I see this guy randomly, and he's talking about his wife. He even talked about his wife almost like, more than God. Like, he was like, my wife is everything. I cut off my best friend. I diss and this and that. I dis for my wife, anything. This, my wife is number one. I don't care. This, this, this. What do you. What do you feel about that example?

[Jada]

He's in this space where his wife is larger than life form. Congrats to him. You know, I mean, he never been. He never caught his left hook or he never been. He didn't experience the real world yet. He be all right.

[Fat Joe]

You know, one thing I never liked is guys who, hey, we all love our wives, right? And our family. But I never respected men who get a wife and get so in love with them that they forget their mother.

[Jada]

They lose.

[Fat Joe]

They forget their mother and their family. They act like, this, my family. This is no longer my family. Like, I only have to care about my wife and my children and not my mom's or my pops or. You know, I never. Like that.

[Jada]

Yeah, that's kind of cowardly. It should never be no reason for you to cut off your moms or your. Your parents.

[Fat Joe]

You know what's crazy? I'm. I'm going to ask you something. You don't have to have a comment. I don't have to have a comment. But no, I'm just keeping it a buck, right? Because I don't really know enough of the brother to really elaborate. But I could tell you from our perspective, being in the hip hip hop game for so long, but I see the guy finesse two times.

[Jada]

Oh, shit. I seen his mom's on there. I don't. I don't.

[Fat Joe]

Let me talk and then maybe chime in.

[Jada]

I ain't chiming in. I'm just listening. Go ahead. Cause I seen this.

[Fat Joe]

So most of us in hip hop grew up poor, struggling to this day. I got family members that let the pride out of that.

[Jada]

But I gotta cut you off before that. Cause there's something like in the comments that think I grew up like the Huxtables. I'm saying, I don't know what the fuck is wrong with these people, but. And coming from where we come from, it's a beautiful thing to have both of your parents. Yes, I know. In route they see all these people. Yeah, we had both of our parents. Do that mean we wasn't in the street? No. Do that mean our household? We had gold spoons?

[Fat Joe]

No.

[Jada]

My mom did she bust her ass. My pop cops was on drugs. He was able to shake back. I was outside doing. I was smart in school. I was athletic and I was outside. Just ask the people. Just ask the cops. Just ask any body you want to ask. And some reason these people got. You can't be. You can't be standing up to your word. If you have both of your parents. Are you some type of an asshole? It's a blessing to have both of your parents if you can have both of your parents.

[Fat Joe]

Illiteracy.

[Jada]

Illusion.

[Fat Joe]

It's like, yo, he's illusional records, yo, listen, if you were bum, don't comment on made niggas, all right?

[Jada]

Tell them again. Crack.

[Fat Joe]

If you a bum, don't comment on made niggas, man. Just, just, just. And what's wrong with Elevate. What's wrong with.

[Jada]

He came from somewhere, then get the fuck out of there.

[Fat Joe]

Super superior. That's how I'm looking at that thing. I don't understand when people are stuck in time. These people are stuck in time and they. And they look at it as their shortcomings. They look at you like you gotta be on. Yo, listen, check this out. Well, I'm telling you, I still got family members in the projects.

[Jada]

Yeah, we just got a large percentage of my family can't take care of.

[Fat Joe]

Of everybody. Remy, she got family in the projects. One day, I ran over there to Queens, almost beat up. Like, I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Like, you got to go. Like, they calling me like your grandma here, like it's a picnic. I said, no, no, no, no. You can't do this. Like, you get that? But we love our family, and we don't feel better than nobody. And we help everybody if we can. We just don't let them take advantage of us.

[Jada]

Say it again.

[Fat Joe]

We help every one of my family members, whether it was directly or indirectly my Uncle Willie, you know, you beat me for three frank for the trucks. Pause. The Glizzy Mania.

[Jada]

That almost. That's what.

[Fat Joe]

So he beat me for three.

[Jada]

Tomorrow, my nick, three Glizzy frankfurter.

[Fat Joe]

He was telling me he's going to have a frankfurter truck outside the hospital. I. I give him the money. Never seen the truck. Year later, yo, Joe, I'm trying to get a frank for the truck. I play it off like I ain't give him the money. I gave him the money again, never got the truck. The third time I give him the money, he beat me out of three franc for the trucks. Right?

[Jada]

He let him keep catching them with Mitch. He wasn't there.

[Fat Joe]

My point is, everybody in my family has found a way. Not because they know I'm not the one, but they leaned on maybe some funerals, maybe some this. Somebody catch cancer, they. They sick. And I come through a silent check. I keep moving. I. I've done that off of my family and my moms and pops. I paid their bills for 20 years, bought them a house, bought them everything. Just took care of them forever, right? Till they died, right? With that saying, right? I look at this video of two time finesse's mother, right? And I don't know you.

[Jada]

Finesse. Two times he switched. He called the two times finesse.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know you, brother. I don't know your background. I don't really know the story. What I do know is that I have crazy family. I have scandalous family. I have some family that have taken advantage of me or has tried to take advantage of me, where I say, yo, this Ain't flying. The advice I have is, I don't know what your mom's did for you to fall back from her if she's not lying, right? But the moms, you know, that's a threat, right? So your family, I don't know if it's happened to you, it's happened to me. I've had somebody in my family say, yo, help me in this and this. And if you don't help me, this is how scandalous Month. The month? No, no, I'm going, go fund me, Fat Joe, Such and such on, go fund me. That broke my heart when a family member told me, y' all go on, go fund me and make a movie saying, this is real shit.

[Jada]

Go ahead. I'm telling them, go ahead on go get.

[Fat Joe]

But what else?

[Jada]

Go fund yourself.

[Fat Joe]

You just bought your mother and father a condo, right? I'm sure you have differences in some way or another. The man's moms look just like him.

[Jada]

And.

[Fat Joe]

If I'm judging her comments, it didn't sound ratchet, scandalous or nothing to me.

[Jada]

She sounds very sincere. She sound like she was talking from the heart.

[Fat Joe]

She wasn't on no bullshit. So when I see it, I'm like, listen, my brother, if you think Fat Joe is something to you or anything of hip hop, you know, I would advise you to contact your moms to try to fix that. I just felt like. I'm not lying to you, Jada. We don't do scandalous. We don't call. But God told me to say that today. When I seen that this morning, I was like, yo, if I could just throw it in the air. The last resort is to have your moms on social media. That's not it. You get one. I don't know what she did. I don't know what anybody did. I know they got family. Just, I got a scandalous family, bro. And so I know sometimes it could overwhelm you, but if you can find it in the heart, if you can seek the Lord, work it out with your moms. I mean, you know, George Floyd was the final straw with police getting away with killing motherfuckers. That was it, right? What was the event?

[Jada]

I'll show you that.

[Fat Joe]

Well, I mean, guys finally went to jail. The first cops ever went to jail. Down south up there. Homeboy still in jail. David Chiffon, they finally went to jail. They was killing dudes on camera.

[Jada]

Not going to jail where they shot somebody. I'm not. Is it Rihanna's? Is it the lady?

[Fat Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jada]

They Got one day. The cops got one day for one.

[Fat Joe]

Of these shits they did and they. They killed.

[Jada]

Kind of slapping the faces that they.

[Fat Joe]

Get one day in jail. I agree, you know, with me, you know, all love and everything, but it's always, fuck the police. You talking to the wrong kid. You know, you just always fuck the police. But my thing is, what was the event? All right, y', all, peace, police listen.

[Jada]

And then he tried to fix it.

[Fat Joe]

Hey, y', all, what's the event? Yo, what's the event in hip hop that broke the camel's back pause to make it to where you could snitch? And if you make good music or something, you could still live out here in hip hop. Like what was the. What was the destroyer that broke the camel's back in hip hop where we had a code and there is no code no more. There just isn't no code no more. And what do you think is the event that. You know, I remember growing up, even if you was fronting, you wasn't a real gangster, but you were spitting gangster rap shit. You wasn't with the rats like that right now. This shit, too many of them sold out concerts.

[Jada]

I think you can't escape them. They all around. They like New York City. Rats, humans. It's rats everywhere and every. Everywhere is every.

[Fat Joe]

You know, too many Fredos, not enough Michaels.

[Jada]

That's a fact.

[Fat Joe]

You know, some of these guys gotta take a boat ride, never come back. And so what happens is.

[Jada]

Snickers getting on these gangsters. Yeah, after police boat ride, one way. Boat rides, keep it going.

[Fat Joe]

Ain't no sponsorship, right?

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Who you think we getting sponsored by the pal League or some? We selling liquor, coffee.

[Jada]

We getting sponsored from gangs.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yo, you folks. No, no. I'm just saying we gotta talk about it because it's not a code no more. And I say the guy who. The whole up.

[Jada]

You gonna say it?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna say Sammy the Bull the whole up. I remember when I was a kid.

[Jada]

Nah, listen. There's no such thing as a credible rat but Sammy the Bull to shoot the out of.

[Fat Joe]

He told every. He told On6.

[Jada]

They set him up, though. They altered the tapes. Yeah, you know that.

[Fat Joe]

No, he took the stand. Sammy the Bull. Sammy the Bull is a superior rat. Yeah. That don't mean shit. You can't rat and kill and be justified.

[Jada]

No, no, no, no, you can't.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, he killed, but he rat.

[Jada]

Listen, he was justified enough to tell him, Let me out of the witness Protection. I'm good. I don't need.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but you gotta understand this. Sammy the Bull ratted on his friends. I never forget the one story.

[Jada]

There's no. We ain't giving him a pass. I'm just saying he was a killer.

[Fat Joe]

We know he's a killer. Alpo was a killer. He's a rat.

[Jada]

He also told him, let me out of witness protection too, Zarat.

[Fat Joe]

And then he came out of witness protection. Enough till we get kill in Harlem.

[Jada]

No, but he was moving around and dudes was smiling and they wasn't saying nothing to him. You know that.

[Fat Joe]

I know that for a fact.

[Jada]

That's what I'm saying. That's why there's no.

[Fat Joe]

Well, that's. We. That's too far. What I'm saying. Sammy the Bull.

[Jada]

The part is Sammy the Bull lasted on the yard for 15 years.

[Fat Joe]

Sammy the Bull is the most famous rat on the earth. Sammy the Bull. Then you came. Alpo, guy everybody looked up to. Charismatic Harlem fly, Louis Vuitton shit. This, that told. He did that right.

[Jada]

Shout out to Wayne Perry and Wayne.

[Fat Joe]

Perry Jr. Then in hip hop, the day six nine sat on that stand. No, you remember if you watching the story, they taking him to court and bulletproof vests, they acted like he was telling on El Chapo. He put a lot of good people in jail, man. Facts another.

[Jada]

No, no, no. We gotta put them away till it's time again. Yo, my feeling is gonna get close.

[Fat Joe]

You feel it?

[Jada]

I feel this time has come. I feel his time is going to be soon, though.

[Fat Joe]

No, look, I'm not trying to. This, bro, this is something that. Is something that I'm thinking. Last night, I'm sitting on the couch trying to come up with what today's show would be about. And it dwells on me that, guys, we lost the code in hip hop. Now is it played out. I watch other podcasts like, yo, that don't matter no more. This, this, that. Does it not matter no more? And I believe six nine when he. He told. He gave guys 20 years in jail. All the guys he was. Oh, but he fucked my wife. Oh, but he did. That means nothing. There's a man that works in the bodega that never been a criminal in his life, see some shit and he won't tell. It's in your character whether you're going to tell or you're not going to tell. So Six Nine was telling. He was hanging out with these cops before they even went. Like, he's. He was telling. The driver's telling on him. Everybody's telling on each other, right? So he's sitting there. You know, that's the biggest excuse. That's what Nicky Bonds back in the day, he was on the COVID of Times. He told because his man was with his wife. He was saying it was. He was with my wife. But then again, he told on 100 Guys. What I'm saying to you is six, nine. Really? Guys, youth, whoever's watching, it's not until dog. No, no, no. He put guys in jail for 20 years. Nice guys who co signed him.

[Jada]

Now I want to hear her.

[Fat Joe]

This is he comes out of jail. This is how he comes out of jail and he goes on his life. I'm not even going to lie. I watched it from a dummy account too. He had 2 million. You remember that, nephew? You remember that? He had 2 million people watching on live. You remember that, right? True or false. 2 million to see a rat. Even I was under a dummy Pepe Le Pew account looking at what he gonna say when he did that. It told the youth, oh, it's over. You could rap whatever the case may be. Come home, you still a shit. You lit 2 million. This he in Europe and all that touring. He's still. I don't know what his finances is. I hope he's broke. But the man now I'm keep. No, that ain't even a flag. This guy's a rat.

[Jada]

No, that ain't a flag.

[Fat Joe]

So my thing is this guy running around buying Birkins for girls and this he made people think it was cool to rap.

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[Fat Joe]

Now we kar but that's all now you almost could throw the flag but my thing is now you got some guys that are the hottest guys in the game. Rats. Like I get a phone call from somebody, he says yo man, you gotta check this album out. Ever since there's listen, ever since I assumed you were rat, your people ain't with you no more. You know I'm not listen, I'm off you no matter what you do. And I get on the plane and they fuck me. I listened to this album. This album was so good. I was so guilty of this. I listened to this album.

[Jada]

I say he knew he talking about gunning.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not saying throw the flag. Throw the flag. Now you got a flag. You have a flag. Because we said we wasn't mentioning names like that.

[Jada]

Just said all of that.

[Fat Joe]

All I said was fire. It's a million raps that you like his album. Nah. If you liked it, you just said.

[Jada]

You enjoyed it and then said nah.

[Fat Joe]

No I'm not saying that. What I am saying is you just said it. So where is we don't care no more in hip hop you could Rap? No, I'm asking.

[Jada]

You can't rap.

[Fat Joe]

But what if you do? You got the number one album. You got 2 million people on your live. You're this and that. What the fuck is going on on Earth? Gunn ain't right. He just said the gun in the car wasn't his. There's only one other person in the car with him. What? You get that on the way home? This is crazy out here. Michael tells him, you broke my heart. You broke my heart. Let me try to lighten this shit up a little, you know?

[Jada]

Please do, because you over here going too gangster.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something.

[Jada]

You said you like the album.

[Fat Joe]

It's a good album.

[Jada]

Good album.

[Fat Joe]

The album. The album is good.

[Jada]

But you feel bad listening to it.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I'm. I'm a different. You know, once I'm. I had a friend, one of my best friends, one of the funniest guys in the world, like you would laugh all day. He would make you laugh all day. One of my best friends, and he kept hustling, and I'm Fat Joe the rapper. And I said, yo, bro, let me buy you a. But like I said, I don't let people take advantage of me. But I begged him, let me buy you a bodega. Let me get you a fucking laundromat. Let me buy you something so you could get. He did the rich border the street, snubbed me. I'm dissident. He's talking all this shit. He gets snatched up by the feds, right? Like, damn. One night, I'm in Washington Heights, we have a dinner after the club. You know how you go to the spot after the club and eat? And Dominican dude jumps up and goes, yo, yo, your friend. Your friend telling the Dominicans, Your friend in the middle of a restaurant, Washington nights. And I'm sitting there, and I look at him. I knew exactly what he was talking about. I look, he told me the name. I said. I said, papi, I don't sell drugs. You've never seen me around. This don't do this ever again to me. You talking to the wrong guy. I don't sell drugs. I rap. This is that. And I'll punch you in your face next time you do some shit. Like, straight up, right? Calmed him down. His crew grabbed him. But he had a point. Valid point. You hanging out with niggas, talking about, you ain't with the Rats. This, that. The Rat, he comes home from jail, and they sending me messages like, yo, this ain't even got a jacket. It's Cold. It's this. That. I never went to see this guy one time in my life after he ratted because he violated the code. And this is a guy. I can still tell you to this day, I loved him. Like a best friend, I loved him. But because of the cold, I can't fuck with them, right? And so I've been through this in my life. And so to see it so acceptable, how everybody's acting like, yo, it's okay. It's no problem. It's good music. It's. Let's separate the art form from. From what it is. That's it. We move it on.

[Jada]

So be it. So be it.

[Fat Joe]

So be it. Shador Sanders.

[Jada]

Shador.

[Fat Joe]

My God, tell me about it. You saw the game?

[Jada]

Did I? Every play, every snap, what he looked like to you? Like the truth. The truth. Sacked twice, two or three touchdowns. Worked the offense like a professional. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

He.

[Jada]

He defined every. I think they put him in there for failure and he blew everybody. Cause he. He was like third or fourth on the depth chart. Then everybody got hurt and they told him he was starting the season open. So it was like, there's some bullshit starting to see.

[Fat Joe]

You mean.

[Jada]

No, the preseason opener, they just sprung that on him. He got right in there, held like a champ.

[Fat Joe]

First of all. J'. Adore. Shout out. Nephew.

[Jada]

That's my nigga. Base. 138 yards, two touchdowns, 49 snaps sacked twice. What about that? You ain't say that. Look.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but he was moving.

[Jada]

You see that up there?

[Fat Joe]

He was moving.

[Jada]

Look, I just looked at the computer. I got looking at me with the googly eyes.

[Fat Joe]

What? The clip said Pat Mahomes on the Clips album. Pat Mahomes. Look up that quote right there. James. No, no, he's.

[Jada]

He was.

[Fat Joe]

He's moving and change.

[Jada]

Ain't that cool.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, he's that quick. Let me tell you, you're gonna get.

[Jada]

It by the end of the show.

[Fat Joe]

Shador Sanders, once again, this is a show for everybody. If you hip hop and you true to the. To the code, white, Asian, Latino, black, whatever, we fuck with you. But it was some racist shit. I. I haven't figured that out.

[Jada]

Here he goes again.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, the man went, what, 100 and something. What, sixth round? What round? This guy? Fifth fucking round. He's the best guy. How do you pass him a hundred something times? That's disrespect. How many teams? We could have used them in Dallas? Cause you know I'm a fake Dallas fan. After my Chiefs or whatever. Cause I gotta ride with him. He's better than Dak Prescott. I know it's only one game, but there's so many teams that could have used this guy. They stuck to the code called Jada don't gay the corporate. Nobody pick them. Nobody.

[Jada]

They did that just like it was a private entity. You know, this private.

[Fat Joe]

Well, they all fucked up. 143 teams up because the 144th got the number one selling jersey, got the number one prospect. And I seen it. His timing, yo, his timing is impeccable, right? And that's what makes anybody good. So I see them coming to him. He waits till they almost catch him to throw it over him lightly. The guy runs, he runs this way, runs back, runs this. Make him fall on the stake this. His timing was so precise. And that's what you need in a Tom Brady and a Pat Mahomes and somebody who got. They chill. You know, you see them quarterbacks, when you know you got a killer is when they. They down with 60 seconds and they sitting on the sideline, they look like, okay. And they go in there and they gun that ball. He got that in him, Horse. He got that in him. And so I was so excited. We watched on the plane and we, we watched every play too. Now him taught me about timing. Like a great comedian. It's all about timing. A great rapper is all about timing, right? So I even thought back to Flo Joe, right? So I'm going, you gotta flow, Joe. You gotta flow, Joe. You gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta let them know, Joe, I gave you a chance to breathe and sing it like it was a hit. It was perfect timing. I didn't know, but it really was perfect timing. You go to Daz Effects and they go Weep and Willow. Or they go, what's the shit? The one, two. Dude, that but it. Dude, that's all timing. When a guy got. I got a light skinned girl look like Michael Jackson got a dark skinned girl looking like this is all timing and you rapping. And then they all. They knew great rappers know how somewhere in there to put a bar in there. Like, what's wrong with a little Minaj? That's great timing. And so that's what makes no, I'm.

[Jada]

Telling you, you ain't right, you ain't wrong.

[Fat Joe]

It's timing. It's whole timing. What are some songs like that that you. Some bars that stand out from you or any other artist. That's like. When you hear it, you like, yo, this guy know what you want.

[Jada]

It's called a Trick in the song. Steve Stout put me up on it.

[Fat Joe]

It's called what? It's a trick.

[Jada]

It's songs that have a trick in them. His hits like and I Wish I Never Met Him. So he said the same thing? No, he just.

[Fat Joe]

I didn't know it was an actual.

[Jada]

That's what it's called. If you think you saying this is a certain bar, but it is a bar. And there's also a trick in the song that makes the whole hit songs have them in there.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah. It's wish and that. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

[Jada]

I'm running out of my patience. That's one. Knock yourself out.

[Fat Joe]

There is no turkey jobs.

[Jada]

Yo, yo, yo, yo. It is turkey. As a matter of fact, that's why I bought top here. Order this guy some turkey chops, man. Send it to the crib.

[Fat Joe]

He talking about his chops. My mama sauced up and shout out.

[Jada]

I told them Shady Brooke got him. Shady Brooke. Yo, Shane Brook. Where sin fat pack of turkey chops.

[Fat Joe]

I went to stop and shop 20 of them. They ain't got no turkey chop.

[Jada]

Went to the wrong ones.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody who told me, yo, it's turkey chops. I sent them to get me turkey chops. Nobody bought back, huh? Y' all need them bad. I've been looking.

[Jada]

Yeah, I need them bad.

[Fat Joe]

You know, I used to be with Von Zip, man, the living legend of Harlem. He'll take me down there to the village. They had a fancy.

[Jada]

Somebody get them a turkey chop, please.

[Fat Joe]

They had a fancy restaurant. Not restaurant, Supermarket. Citadella or some who has it.

[Jada]

Yeah, man, Order them shits right now, man.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Rich, can you order this to turkey shop? Well, you got to get it from the company, right? I mean, the supermarket.

[Jada]

That might have been a flat. It's a turkey chops.

[Fat Joe]

He got the. Yeah, yo, he got it. I've been looking for.

[Jada]

Yo, somebody insta car.

[Fat Joe]

You got to get like 10 packs.

[Jada]

Can we instacart him some turkey chops right now so we can.

[Fat Joe]

They can see them. Everybody who told me, yo, I got turkey chop. None of them was able to buy me a turkey chop.

[Jada]

They couldn't produce. They couldn't produce.

[Fat Joe]

It ain't in season right now. I guess because I couldn't see. I went to 20 hood stoppage shops. Nobody had turkey chops. No, no, I need turkey chops.

[Jada]

The same thing gotta feel like a pork chop.

[Fat Joe]

But it's a. You know, I'm the guy. I find yellow watermelon. Like, I get the yellow Watermelon.

[Jada]

We got yellow watermelons.

[Fat Joe]

I get the pink pineapples. Like I'm good at finding shit. I can't find a turkey job, I'm keeping it real. I find the yellow watermelon, the pink pineapple. Why I can't find a turkey chop.

[Jada]

You don't know where to look.

[Fat Joe]

I've been looking. I've been looking.

[Jada]

Turkey cutlet.

[Fat Joe]

Mr. Sid shout out. My man Von Zip. Rest in peace, right? Von Zip was like the last no snitch American gangster from Harlem. That's it. And this man would be in Cullinans in Harlem and this and this and that. And I remember one time, just to show off with me, he picked me up, he said, yo, Joe, come with me. I'm buying a Benz. So we go out to Jersey. He pays in cash for the bends with the small face, 20s just showing me he had like 1970s money. And he counted all this shit there. You could smell like it was in the wall, just the front for me. He must have went in the wall, pulled out some old school money and bought the shit with old school. You know how everybody be rapping like, you know, I got money for the. You know, I got money. I ain't spend since 92 this. He really took me to buy Benz, maybe a hundred something thousand. And it was all in that old school where you smell of shit. Your father left you some money like that, right now. He did though, Tom Pete left you some money that. Remember, you smell old like it was back in the day. Shit, money always worked. Let me tell you something, speaking of time. I never really brag about jail because I only did four months. I got friends that did 20, 30, 40 years. But last night I get.

[Jada]

I only did four days, huh? I only did four days, man, that's.

[Fat Joe]

A lot looking out the window for.

[Jada]

Four days, looking at the bus stop.

[Fat Joe]

What I know you was at county. So you had black coffee, bologna sandwich, shit like that. Grand cup of Kool Aid.

[Jada]

Tell you something, I did two vitamins.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta explain this to you. I did time in the feds donuts. And there's two. You know, I'm a thinking, right?

[Jada]

Orange juice.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you, I'm just thinking, right? I grew up in the projects, right? And there's this grass in the middle of all the project buildings. We got big project buildings. Every building's 14th floor, 145 of them apartments. I counted all the doors, right? Everybody was.

[Jada]

145 apartments, counting all the doors.

[Fat Joe]

Counted all the doors now. And everybody Got nine kids. So this shit is like, you up one guy, you got to fight the other brother. You got to fight Jamie Jonathan Crayford. So you get up till one of them found you out. You got to go up the line. Then the diesel brother come out. Good luck.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

At least you stood tall. You fought him. You got. You got your ass whipped. That's where I come from. Projects is like gladiator. The point I'm trying to make is there's a big grass in my projects. Everybody has shootouts there. They have fights. You know, one day, I go up to the roof of my building, and I look at the grass and I say to myself, was this like an experiment? Because, like, if you go up on my roof and you see the gun battles and the fights and everything that happened in the middle of the grass, you sit up there, it's almost like the Coliseum. And so where I'm getting to is when you go to the Feds, where I went, you got 2,000 dudes, Jamaicans, Arya Nations, Spanish dudes, black dudes, these white American dudes. And there's only four tables. I'm just trying to. There's four tables with four chairs. That's 16 seats. And there's 2,000 guys, and it's right in front of the three TVs. You got the Spanish TV. The blackest guy don't know English. You looking at the mommies in the Spanish TV like, that's like Telemundo. No, no, that shit is like. You might as well call that shit soft porn, motherfucker. Looking at that, they don't gotta know what they talking about. They up in there like this every day, right? So you got four tables? Of course I got a table, right?

[Jada]

Oh, I got a table.

[Fat Joe]

No, no. Walking in 10 minutes. 10 minutes. I said, yo, who sits in them tables? Homeboy looked at me shook because a lot of guys are pussy. They're not really real. Just because you in jail, you act tough, dancing, you get in jail. I watch people get smacked, punched in the face, and said, my bag, and keep walking. These guys, these are playing basketball. Nephew, you don't got to go in there for me to tell you the guys you think is tough on your block. I watch guys get punched in their face and say, my bag, I'm sorry, and walk away. I never seen no shit like that. You got to murder me. Like, you just can't do it, right? So I'm up in there. He does that. I go down to the table. Guy's sitting there. I'm like, you my man. Get the fuck up. He don't want to get up. I say, you're my man. You got to get the fuck up. He got up and he left. So I took the table. Ten minutes in there, right? Sit down. Half the jail hated me. A thousand niggas hated me because they was like, oh, he's not going to kick freestyles. This nigga is in here on this bullshit, right?

[Jada]

I wanted you to rhyme.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody rhyme in jail, J. Everybody want to ride for you. I ain't let one dude ride for me. So I'm sitting down in the chair. They looking. Some of them hate me, some of them don't. Whatever. Who gives a fuck, right? Only got four months anyway, so I'm willing to be in the box for the four months. The point is, soon as I figured it out, like, I just needed, like a week in there, right? Because the. The first. The feds don't give you commissary. I don't give a fuck if you Donald Trump. It takes you two weeks. I walked in there. Listen, you got him.

[Jada]

Getting him, getting it.

[Fat Joe]

No, I got him. He breaks the rules, let me tell you. I walked in with $5,000 cash in my pocket to put in commissary. Still took two.

[Jada]

Two weeks.

[Fat Joe]

The point is, the first meal, I had to wait online. And they were very generous. Everybody, they kept throwing, like, the plate. They kept throwing. They threw like six or eight of them on my table, right? When I tell you this shit tastes like dope, when. Listen, even the guys that mind their business. There's some guys in jail, mind their business, don't bother nobody. They over there, they don't talk to nobody. You know, they good people. When I tell you, all of them looked over and wanted to see my first reaction when you had his food. This was dog. This food, right? My dog was eating better than this. They all look and they was like, okay, he know what it is in here now, right? So I go like. But very quick. I got me Italian chef. They had a chef down in the. In the thing. Chef junior. He wasn't pussy, so don't think. He was just a tech, but he was my chef. He make me homemade ice cream, mozzarella. They would steal the clams, and he would make me linguine and clam sauce, all type of shit. We was dumbing out.

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[Fat Joe]

I got the guy I got pick up a guy I told you about Hong Kong's Mongolia. So in jail in jail how you.

[Jada]

Think the Hong Kong's Mongolian because he.

[Fat Joe]

Was the guy nobody wanted and so in jail if you white you with the white guys, you black you with the black guy, you with the Spanish, he was a white guy that the White guys ain't one, but I saw him. Yeah, but he was, man, he had that boot strength. So, like, he played basketball. Nobody wanted DM because he hit you with an elbow, a shit. He was strong. So I said, my man, come with us, man. You eat with us. You with us. I gave him a name, Hong Kong's Mongolian. And one day he comes up to me because the guys. Yeah, partially slow. I mean, but he's just. No, no, he's not slow. He's just slow.

[Jada]

He's. Yeah, he's a little bit.

[Fat Joe]

He ain't go past second grade. But this guy was, you know, he was.

[Jada]

Damn second graders.

[Fat Joe]

No, but you give him at least.

[Jada]

Give him at least sixth grade.

[Fat Joe]

No, this guy take out 10.

[Jada]

Give him six. Give him six.

[Fat Joe]

This guy would take out 10, 20 guys like it was all out war. He's gonna take out 10, 20. He's Hong Kong's Mongol.

[Jada]

Yo, look at.

[Fat Joe]

He used to stand there like this. The white guys was looking like, oh, it gotta be something to this. Fat Joseph snatched up this guy. And I'm calling him in. The whole job. Yo, listen. Ain't no different than this show. Hong Kong's Mongolian. He's walking through. What's up, boss? What's up? They looking like, we made a mistake. We didn't recruit this.

[Jada]

He was like Shador. They let him go.

[Fat Joe]

They let him go. He went past all the drafts, and I seen the sparkle in him. I said, yo, this is Hong Kong's money. He come up to me one day, he said, boss, boss. I said, what's up? He said, I just realized Hong Kong and Mongolia is two different places. I said, my man, shut the fuck up. Be happy I gave you a day. Get the fuck out of here. Okay, boss. Okay, boss. He goes on. But I got this story where I thought about it last night. And I don't really brag about jail. Because These guys did 10,000 years in jail. But in the feds, less now than ever. But they always said, you go to the Feds and God's got money in there. So next to me in the table, don't ask me how they got. The table was four Latinos with a. They could be. I'm in Miami. So they could be, like, Cuban, but I don't think they Cuban. But you could tell they got money. Like in the streets. If I pulled up in the Cullinan, they pulling up in the Cudley, they pulling up. These guys got money. They're not bothering nobody. They got money. I don't really Talk to them, because they really ain't my type of guys. I'm sorry if y' all watching. They wasn't my style of guy, you know what I'm saying? And so one day, we sitting there, we watching tv, and the guy goes and orders a pizza pie. Now, at least jail I was in, a pizza pie is like caviar, right? Everybody ain't have a pizza pie. Any normal person, they have got a.

[Jada]

Real pizza pie or something.

[Fat Joe]

Jail pizza. Still a big deal in jail. I watch throwing bananas down they shit or apple. Like, do the most derelict for anything in there. Like, I mean, grown men, yo, watching your back while you stealing a banana. That's how bad it is in jail, bro. This is really a third world country in America. It's bad in there. But anyway, pizza. They up to like 20 pizzas for no reason. They couldn't even eat it. Yo, another pizza. Every time a pizza came, they kept looking at me. My table was right next to them. It was like, I go in my cell, okay? In the feds, at least the jail I'm at, the eggs they give you in the morning is powdered eggs. They had never seen a real egg in the jail. A fucking egg. Think about where you go to store. Buy a dozen. They had never seen a real egg in the jail I was in. I go in my cell, I come out, microwaves right there, the whole fucking shit. You see cracker egg, bam. One. That was it. Yo, they had never seen an egg. Bam. One, bam. Two, bam. I'm up to 40, 50 eggs. Just yo, yo, bam, bam, bam. Like, I'm the whole child's watching the arm sit through the. Yo, yo, yo, I'm trying to. That's 48. How about I keep going. Oh, to like 6 to 7. 67. 8. 6 to 7, 6, 7. Like this. The. Look at me, dizzy. They learn, the pizza dudes, bro, they'd never seen an egg. I bust open so many eggs. The scrambled eggs was so big. And I just kept going like this, like, letting them know, like, yo, bro, I got shit you ain't even see in this fucking jail. Y' all trying to play with me with some pizzas. Y' all got me fucked up. I get up to the six, seven. I give in a Chef junior, Let him go. You know what's crazy is we had at this. This, this. No offense, but this slight racist. What I'm about to say right now, we had. No, no, no. I'm telling you. We had one Asian guy in the whole jail. One Asian and I would bar him every day, like, yo, you make Chinese rice? You know how to cook? You know how to cook? You make. I'm a fat dude. Like, I preferred. Like, listen to me, man. I want the Chinese rice. The man telling me, yo, I don't cook. I keep bothering him, yo. He's. I don't cook. I don't cook. I'm like, yo, you got Chinese? You know? Huh? They know how to make it. He would. I gotta give him it. He wouldn't let me punk him into making Chinese rice. I kept bothering him, like, yo, you make Chinese? You got Chinese food? You got Chinese. You know how to. He was like, no, I don't know. All right. So one day is my man's birthday, and I give the dude the white towel like a Mr. Child. And I have him. I have him serve my man for his birthday like his man. I said, Yo, Mr. Chow, baby. Mr. Child with the white. With the white towel over his head. I'm like, yo, Mr. Chow, man. In the feds, man, you got Mr. Chow. I mean, yo, we was clowns, man.

[Jada]

This thing is crazy.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, yo, listen. Clowns, I said. So I go on a visit and somebody slips me some Jordans. Now in the Feds, you either wearing a gray sweatsuit or a beige. I don't give a fuck who you are. They are not. No one has Jordans. I got it by default. Tell me, yo, slip your shit off. I slipped it off in the Visit. Then I put them on as Jordans. Biggest mistake of my life. I go up at the elevator. The whole elevator's like, you know, because you in this building, they got these elevators. You could put a tractor trailer in there. So they got 300 guys on the building. And the whole visit is looking at my feet like I walk in the fucking tier. Puerto Rican dude, barber. I would love to see him use a barber with a little tail. From Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. He was a real one. So he runs up and goes, like, I tell you, it's real ratio in there. He runs up and goes, may Bach. May Bach. He starts screaming. If I wanted to be on the low, it's no low. He's screaming, maybach, may bot. Basically, he's saying, yo, the Puerto Ric, the Latino guy, the Maybach, like the cullinan on his feet. You ain't never see this. He telling everybody, yo, them Jordans is a Maybach in here, man. It's a Maybach. And he's screaming at everybody. Start looking up from all corners. So I get the spaghetti feet Damn near. You know, my looking like Jerry Lewis. I'm walking too. I want they get. I know for sure I'm in trouble, right? For sure. I'm not scared of somebody stealing the sneaker. I'm in trouble, right? So I felt like homeboy, what's his name? Huggy Bear, with the fish tank pumps. Remember when he came out the jail, he had the fish in the shoes. Years later, and they was playing Public Enemy. This, that. I'm gonna get you, sucker, bro. I felt like Huggy Bear walking out there in them shits. Sure enough, the next day, they rushed my cell. They got these people like Internal affairs or whatever they call sis. They rush the cell. Boom. I'm working out. They pull out the Jordans. I go on the thing. The assistant warden is there. Now this woman. Shout out to the woman. She's like, tough, real tough. So I said, hey, man, I was always nice to this lady. I don't know why I was always nice to her. Anytime I passed her, anytime I did something, I was like, hey, more than I. I had that report. So she says, none of these people are your friends, Joe. We got like 40 phone calls from the hotline talking about, you got the Jordans. So I'm like, you know, I know they're not my friends. She said, do you know who we got in here? I said, no. She said, such and such. The leader of the shower pots. Such and such. The leader of the guerrilla falk army in Colombia. Such and such. The kingpin of all. Because it's Miami's the hub.

[Jada]

Yeah, that's.

[Fat Joe]

So if you doing work out there, Jamaica, Santo Domingo, Puerto Rico, the killers are all killers. They throw them over. It's Miami's the hub, right? And she said, and do you know every floor I go to, whose name I hear the most? She said, fat Joe. I said, yo, what you want me to do, dude? Like, I've been humble. I don't get into arguments with nobody. She's like, jody, not your friend. They called up and she gave me a chance, thank God. But that was. That was. You know, they all called on me. All you guys. You know who you are. They all called on me about the Jordans. But, you know, jail was different. I don't advise nobody to go there. To me, it's like communism. It's a third world country. If your family don't send you no money, then you have no resort but to do crazy things, man. But I was just thinking about that today because I don't try to think about that. You know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

But sometimes it can't escape your mind. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Last night. I don't know. It's the simple things, man. I was just thinking about it because, you know, my whole life I've been chasing the stunt. My whole life I've been flexing. My whole life, since I'm a kid, I've been trying to make a movie. And I just got. I started laughing when I thought about the eggs and the fucking. The pizza pie. Like, I really stunted on him with the eggs. That shit was crazy, man. But hip hop, we got a tour coming. Havoc of Mobb Deep. Raekwon is Chef. Locks Locks is on that tour. Are you? Yeah, supposed to be. You guys are killing the market, man. I gotta go to Yugoslavia to get a check. Yo, come on, you guys.

[Jada]

I'm trying to get some of them bags you getting over there. South Dakota, North Dakota. I'm saying, Rich, don't be in Miami.

[Fat Joe]

We in Miami. So, you know, I mean, it is what it is, but that would be crazy. The locks, Mobb Deep Ray Corn, the Chef. That would be like, I love what y' all doing with the cash money.

[Jada]

Because it should be a nice show.

[Fat Joe]

You could be a very nice Dynasty Commodity. I mean, do you guys have samples? Because I don't get high, but if I got high. Did you have a sample?

[Jada]

You can have a pre roll for you to test it for you.

[Fat Joe]

So Dynasty Commodity does have samples. Okay, thank you very much. Shout out. Trigger Tone. Jamal, did you got a sample from Dynasty Commodity? This is the number that he got. I gave you a sample.

[Jada]

Yeah, they gave me a nice. They gave me. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Rich.

[Jada]

They took care.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Rich, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought you didn't give out samples.

[Jada]

He gave me a nice package when.

[Fat Joe]

I went for the Styles P, opened up a joint.

[Jada]

Yeah, strange for life. 145th and Broadway.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, that's gonna be fun.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I mean, I might pull up today on that, just to pull up. I don't get high, but I gotta go show support. Anytime one of us open a business, do anything like that, we got to pull up facts. That's like, you know, that's the American dream, being an entrepreneur, you know what I'm saying? I've been an entrepreneur since I'm 12 years old. I don't want to work for nobody. I just don't want to. You remember when Nori was up here? He was like, yeah, you know, I wanted y' all show I was like, yo, Nori, I worship you. I don't just worship you. I love you to death. I'm not working for you. I just don't.

[Jada]

It's hard.

[Fat Joe]

I can't work for nobody. Every business I ever did, somebody done sat down with me, yo, I want to invest money. I'm like, I'm good. Do the rewind attend. You know how many guys we know with serious money sat down with me. I love it. It's disruptive. Can I give you 10 million of this? I'm like, nah, bro, I don't. I'm cool. I'm the boss. Why would I want. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, whenever one of us get a business, you know, I pulled up on Raekwon, got one, New Jersey. I went out there.

[Jada]

Astoria. We gotta definitely get an award because we throwing that shit on up here. And then.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you want us to do.

[Jada]

Overlooking us? Nah, they overlooking us. They overlooking this. Man.

[Fat Joe]

These guys are dizzy. And the colder it gets. This is summer. We've been doing this summer. When it gets cold, we can come in here.

[Jada]

Electrical on how cold it isn't it?

[Fat Joe]

Yo, by the way, the AC snaps the back of the neck. Guys. I'm not complaining. This place is incredible. For some reason, the AC is like.

[Jada]

Now you got to be right under. Because when we have a guest and I gotta sit over there, I said.

[Fat Joe]

I know what crack, yo, I got like a purse. A professional cold. This don't leave. I have a cold for life. This is legend.

[Jada]

You under there.

[Fat Joe]

Yesterday, for some reason, it was really working. Bam. Just on my neck. And yo, Harlem, you got something. Look at my man Harlem. Harlem made for me, man. He said he got a gift for me. I told him, man, you might as well come on. Harlem everywhere, man. He's a great guy, man.

[Jada]

I know you. I know you looked at. Let me.

[Fat Joe]

You know this happened. There you go, my brother. Bill Clinton wearing the TS Air Force.

[Jada]

That's fire.

[Fat Joe]

This ain't Photoshopped, my brother.

[Jada]

No, that's fine.

[Fat Joe]

Ain't no cap in this. You see that? I got that presidential Bill Clinton rocking these sneakers. I've been trying to put up a poster I got of this in my house. They won't allow me.

[Jada]

Hold it up.

[Fat Joe]

It's Bill Clinton, bro. Thank you, my brother. This is beautiful.

[Jada]

I don't see why he wouldn't wear your Air Force ones.

[Fat Joe]

You like getting Ed throw the flag. Yo, you got two. That's a flag.

[Jada]

He gonna hit me with it my own self.

[Fat Joe]

Throw the flag, man.

[Jada]

Yo probably has some airs on when.

[Fat Joe]

He got right man.

[Jada]

I mean my man Bill probably an air joining in the whole office that day.

[Fat Joe]

I know somebody who's I can't say but who is I'm talking about top five dead or alive singer. I can't even in every genre just in case the man goes to perform for Christmas at the White House and he says Bill Clinton pulled him in a room and was like, yo, where the hose at bro? I thought you were the it seems Bill ain't learned his lesson. Yo, Bill Clay tells him, I'll tell you who, after college you'll die. The man tells me, yo, I'll go to sing at the White House. Bill Clinton pulls me in the room like, yo, I thought you had all the man, where's the at this, this, that. He was like, yo, this is the in the White House. The President. You know Bill, he liked the ladies, man. And with that this is crack, this.

[Jada]

Is kiss, this ain't that and that ain't this.

[Fat Joe]

It's crack and it's Kiss and boy, enjoy this evergreen baby.

[Jada]

You heard one.

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