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Fat Joe
That'S odoo.com are you want to sit down? Have a see how white people is. They help themselves to the cop. They nobody told these to sit down. They're like, yo, can we sit down? Yes, maybe so yo, give them the handheld mic. These come take over this. Yeah, yeah. What up y'? All? This is Joe Crack the dog.
Jadakiss
You know who it is. Your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show, right? Every show legendary, every show iconic.
Fat Joe
Stepping on niggas necks. So you know we got mad requests. Everybody like they I've never seen people get mad cause we getting the best guests in the world. Every day somebody legendary just pull up to the show. They've been begging us like yo, when we gonna get a Joe and Jada just I'm like, yo, this shit, yo, it must be horrible to be the competition be cause like niggas is pulling up on this shit so crazy. It's like, yo, every day we can't stop. I gotta tell people I can't do it. I actually have to tell certain artists. They hit me up and be like, yo, we just can't do it. You know, Jada's on a cruise, I'm over here like we. I'm sorry big people. I mean this shit got motherfucker dizzy. You know what I'm saying? I know it, I know it. And we ain't stopped throwing that shit on them. Niggas is flabby and sick right now. You know what I'm saying? Hip hop is here, Hip hop is here. The buck stops here. Nowhere else. I Know, I've been calling us the rookies of the year. Is starting to look like rookie of the year MVPs. Biggest show on Earth. S. I'm being honest with you. I'm as humble as I can keep it. This. This is the biggest show in the game. Oh, y' all think I ain't being humble? I'm being very humble. I could be disrespectful.
Jadakiss
I think you are. Nah, I think that was very disrespectful.
Fat Joe
You know, hip hop is competition. I could always make a meme out of you at the verses. Where you like, Yo, I'm from here. Like, that's how I came in the game, thinking it's competition. Even though we got love for people, we got love for everybody. We want everybody to win. We want everybody to get the bag. But ain't nobody bigger than us.
Jadakiss
That's what we do, baby.
Fat Joe
Man, look at Jay the boy. That boy can smell that money, right? You know it smell as it. Jada be like his wife looking at him while he sleep. He like, yo, la la. He ooh, yo, la la. That boy Jada up in that looking like, la la la la la la. It's crazy. That shit crazy, let me tell you. Hey, hey, shout out our sponsors. Hard Rock, Ace of Spade, everybody. And so hip hop, it's been 35 years. This is the first time they ain't the top 10 record or top 40 in the hip hop in Billboard. What's that? Okay, break it down, Break down. Why you think it's sad?
Jadakiss
I mean, whenever something is running for so long, it is dramatically just not there.
Fat Joe
That's.
Jadakiss
That.
Fat Joe
That's. We gotta look at that.
Jadakiss
I mean, is. We're losing. We're losing control, losing the grip of the culture. You're supposed to stay on there forever. They use hip hop for everything. Every commercial, every marketing tool they sell, everything.
Fat Joe
Let me tell you something. The other day, I was telling y', all, like, when I listen to country, I listen to other forms of music. There's always hip hop influence. The other day, I just realized the number one producer of K pop is a dude from fucking Compton. Hip hop dude from Compton, it's always our source that goes to every other genre or whatever the case may be. Country music, same shit. They using our pen. The flip side is, is the art more important? You know what I'm saying? So I feel like we've been getting great hip hop lately. Whether it's the Mobb Deep album or the Clips or just cause they ain't Charting Cardi B's album was crazy. So just cause they ain't charting on the top 40, Billboard doesn't mean the art, you know, people ain't creating it don't mean I've been happy with hip hop this year.
Jadakiss
Shout out to clips, man. Five Grammy nominations, you know what I mean? That means something. So somewhere, somebody, something ain't maffin.
Fat Joe
It's the art. Everybody just said, fuck, fuck the Billboard, fuck the hits, fuck that. Let's make dope music. And the people are saying, I love it. You know what I'm saying? That the critics, whatever saying I love it. And so, you know, when they eliminated Drake off the charts, you know, they went on that full court crisis, eliminate him.
Jadakiss
I think he just chilled. I think he chilled.
Fat Joe
Yeah, but he's going to come back.
Jadakiss
And Massive destructive takeover.
Fat Joe
No, I agree 1 billion percent. But what I'm saying for right now, you know, you, you realize that Drake was probably keeping us in that top 40 for fucking five, 10 years. Like every record he made was going number one. So it's like any records he made was going number one. He, I think he battling Michael Jackson for the most number ones. So he was on that. He, he was on that chart. You know, they making a Michael Jackson movie. You heard about that. The guy who made Training Day Fruit Con. What's his name? Antoine Fuqua. Man, you know, I'm fried. Like, yo, come on, yo, Kiss. You know, I don't get shit right, but you know my heart's in the right place. Yo, yo, you know. Oh, shit. What you think Netflix gonna be like?
Jadakiss
What was the casting? We gotta see what's going on in the casting. Who they gonna care? Who gonna be Mike?
Fat Joe
His nephew's gonna be the star. Michael, Michael Jackson's nephew. Is he gonna be a Crip or no? Or after the surgery? Because I met a kid named. He said he was Michael Jackson somebody. He looked like Michael Jackson after the surgery. Yo, yo, yo, yo. I met a dude. There's a dude running around New York, I swear to God, he looked like Michael Jackson. They say Michael Jackson got no cousins in New York. But he. Look, I'm telling you, I met the guy. He looked like Michael Jackson after the surgeries. He don't look like original Michael, know what I'm saying? So his nephew, he looked like what? He's in the family. They got him like you know, anything Michael Jackson. I'm pulling up to the movie theater, I don't give a fuck. But I also think that this is going to be A lot of truth telling in this Michael Jackson biopic. You know, we see what's going on now. So what's going on now in life? We finally caught up to it. We finally like, oh, shit. That's what they doing, like smear campaigns and having been, you know, starting rumors about certain people. Yeah, but AI, now what, what I'm saying is a lot of this shit they did to Mike, a lot of the shit they did to Michael Jackson was ahead of the time. And we couldn't see because the media was way more controlled. It wasn't no phones, so they were saying whatever they want on the tabloid. Who was the leader? Whoever, whoever had that tabloid on lock was controlling the narrative. If you had beef with somebody strong enough that had the plug to the Rupert Murdochs in them, you're fried. They can say anything they want about you in them tabloids that have people looking at you crazy. You go to supermarket, you buy the magazine. That's how you know. So if MJ had beef with anybody because he was very, very powerful, they was controlling that narrative in the fucking.
Jadakiss
Magazines, those Inquirers and all of them shits is bullshit.
Fat Joe
But at the time, people took it serious. What I'm trying to tell you, at the time people took it serious. Like right now I feel like social media fucked up love. Like I definitely. If you, if you younger, if you ain't been with your wife a long time and she gotta stay outta ig. Cause ig we all addicted to this shit. When fucking Michael Jordan started crying, Michael Jordan is the. Listen, I know Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, the last guy you would think is on ig, when he was at the Kobe funeral and he was crying, he said, yeah, they're going to make a meme out of me. Don't tell me he don't know what IG is. He knew the time quick. When he was crying at Kobe funeral, he said himself, oh, they gonna make a meme out of this. Jerry west laughed when he said that. Like, the people we think ain't on Instagram is on Instagram, right? So everybody's watching social media, social media. How are you in love? You take one wrong pick, the pressure will force your relationship to break up off the wrong pit. You ain't even got an opportunity to fix it, especially these young kids. It's like social media fucked up love. What happened to love? Know what I'm saying? And then relationship's supposed to go up and down. You supposed to deal with it. It ain't always perfect. But with all that Pressure to me, you be on that shade room with the shit between the line like this. Yeah. With the line shit over, you can't even make the choice. They'll make it for you. They be like, hey, it's time to go shit crazy. So what I'm trying to tell you is that right now the phone is different. We get to see more aspects. That's why people can't sweep shit under the rug. But back in the day, in the MJ era, they could control the media. I promise you this movie's. I don't know. My prediction is it's going to deal with, you know, behind the scenes of like shit they was doing to him to make people look sideways at mj. I'm sure if homeboy from the Training Day does that, it's going to be a lot of exposing the clips. Let's go back to the clips in the Grammys. What do we do now? We just talking. We shooting this shit.
Jadakiss
It was just the movie jumpers.
Fat Joe
But let me ask you something. You want to say something? Be half of that. The mj.
Jadakiss
I hope it's a great film. I know it will be with Antoine at the helm of it. Hopefully it'd be a great film and we get to see some stuff we never knew about in depth.
Fat Joe
Yeah, I want to see some stuff because some. Every time I see like a fake little Michael Jackson movie, it always be like the same shit. It don't be. You know the guy. You seen the last one, they had like a real cheap one. The security, a cheap one. Now they had like a low budget Michael Jackson movie on one of these shits where not to be, not to be, but a little above that where the security was telling his side of the story. He was saying that Michael Jackson never paid them. Like he was broke when we thought he was the richest, but he always had that shit he ain't want to sell. So they would always come to him and be like, anytime. Yo, this guy, yo, MJ was rich. MJ was rich for so long. That nigga was walking in stores buying $10 million worth of shit like it was a pack of bubble gum. And one day they told him, yo, you ain't got it like that. But they kept telling him, yo, mj, oh, you gotta do everybody, his family, security, everybody kept saying, yo, get rid of the catalog and you'll have a billion dollars right now. So even though he was going through hard times, nothing like what we think, but it was hard times. He always knew he had a billion dollars. He always Knew, like, at any point, he could just sell the key to a billion dollars. And everybody. That was everybody's conversation around MJ was like, yo, you could just sell it for a billion dollars. They say he went to some other shit he wanted to make, like Never Neverland Part 2. And when he went to get the money, they was like, yo, you ain't got it. And even the realtor was selling them, yo, just sell a catalog, buy this shit. Like nothing. Everybody knew he had that shit. They all knew, like, yeah, he fucked up, but he ain't really fucked up.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
You know?
Fat Joe
It's almost like when Kanye west went on that tantrum, and he was like, he a billionaire. Well, even if they fuck all this shit up, he's still worth 200, 300 million. That's a cool spot to be at, you know? So let's go back to the Grammys, right? Because the Grammys are full of shit. But remember that year HOV had nine nominations, that they ain't give him a award. You don't remember that shit. I was there. Yeah, they'll fuck you, man. They'll fuck you. I think the Clips win, too. It's the best album of the year as far as I know. But they'll fuck you. You know, the Grammys, they do everything you can't believe somebody could do like me. I want to shout out, Chance the Rapper, he's been taking a bad rap from me. I've been killing him in all my interviews and shit because I didn't think he deserved to be all the way up. I really still don't, but I'm going just say to him, I saw you on your little interview on the podcast, and you addressed it the right way. You're correct. I should have won many Grammys. I was nominated for, like, six Grammys at least. All the way up and lean back. For sure. I think I should have won Lean back. I lost to, like, I don't know who was it ever. Essence. Come on, Come on. Let's lean back, man. You know what I'm saying? We lost the Evanescence. You know what I'm saying? You see this? The Grammys, they'll do it to you. They'll be like, all right, everybody think he's supposed to win. Give it to the guy. We don't know it. That's what keeps everybody intrigued in the Grammys. Why? Why? I was supposed to win the Grammy. There you go.
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Fat Joe
Yo. Oh, no. DMX beat you.
Jadakiss
You did.
Fat Joe
Yeah, that was that. Yeah, we looked that shit up. It Was. It was DMX beat Y, right?
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Fat Joe
I should have won that still in the family.
Jadakiss
I still should have won that one. He had other shits that he should have gave.
Fat Joe
Obviously. When it's human, people, they got, People got feelings, and they get all in their feelings and they do whatever they got to do politically. That's why with this, this podcast, I've been watching the numbers in the empirical data. We smoking everybody.
Jadakiss
I don't know none of that. I don't know where the data.
Fat Joe
I do. I don't know where I do that.
Jadakiss
That's him, y'. All.
Fat Joe
I do. When you talk about the amount of guests, how many people tell you how many. How many. You went to Atlanta, to the ludicrous state? How many artists. How many artists told you they want to come?
Jadakiss
Every artist in the world.
Fat Joe
Let me tell you something analytically with the numbers. We smoking everybody now. If we don't.
Jadakiss
I don't know that.
Fat Joe
Okay, let me explain.
Jadakiss
I hope so.
Fat Joe
I'm just preparing you now. So when the end of the year come and we know we beating everybody, we smoking everybody's boots and they fucking rob us and give it to Josh and Raleigh and Arthur Willingston. Like, we know what the fuck going on here. He niggas, ain't nobody. Everywhere we walk, we walk through the airport, they're like, joe and J, did we go anywhere? Joe and Jada, this, this, this. Know what I'm saying? Come at the end of the year, you watch what funny niggas they're going to come and say, we lost to. But that's political. That's no different than the Grammys. They got a team working.
Jadakiss
They already know that's what's going on here.
Fat Joe
All right, so that's what I'm shocked in the Grammys. That's why we don't get too caught up in these awards, because it is what it is. People be having their own people in play to make sure they win. Like, you know, I can't look at. I'm sorry, right? I can't look at a chart or podcast and never heard of these guys. And they, they're going to be higher than us. Know what I'm saying? Now? I know. Call me Daddy, the girl. I know Joe Rogan. I know Amy Schumer. I know Joe Button. I know. I mean, you know, I know those guys. But when you're going to come up here and put me, you know, Jonathan and William podcast very like, yo, I can't do that. Like, I, I, I'm sorry.
Jadakiss
I Don't deal with this, guys.
Fat Joe
This is a talk shit show. So I'm gonna talk my shit. Cause I'm preparing the people. Just because they say they number one, that just means they got friends picking who's number one. They not really number one. And now let me tell you how I judge it, right? If Joe and Jada has two time felon as a guest, right, he's coming out with an album. He comes sit in the couch, he's our guest. We put him on here, we talk interesting conversation. See, me and you, we know different than Shaquille o' Neal or Chuck. They know we played the game. They know we got the experience, we legends. They want to hear us talk to the Clips and all put like this, the Clips game. Anybody else who interviewed them is behind us. And 300,000 views, 400,000. This is all I'm saying. The same guest is coming here that's going over there. They getting 150,000 views. We getting a half a million views. What with where? No, no, I want to know what's a 50 cent spice ham sandwich or what's the. Tell me what the fuck. I'm not dumb. If we interviewing the same person and we got them beat by 300,000 votes, how the fuck they number one.
Jadakiss
Ballots.
Fat Joe
Are you looking at? Where is he looking at? You better be prepared. It's all right. Jada don't care.
Jadakiss
No.
Fat Joe
Y' all better get him a strong pack of that Zaza that day. He look at that. You gotta smoke something. Jonathan and Williams beat us when they come in. Smoke that. Whatever you smoke. I'm smoking that day. Cause I'm telling we're gonna be mad. We put in a lot of work every day we got the illest. Look tomorrow. Look who's coming tomorrow. Every day the illest dudes in the world, they flying in to be on this show, in and out. This is the biggest show in hip hop right now. This is controlling the culture. And when I want to compare notes, my notes is, well, why did John Butler come on our show? And we got 800,000 views with him and you got 300. I want to know how you better than us? Like, how are you better? Where's your numbers adding up like that? And so I'm looking at all this etiquette. If you got a guy. If you got a guy who put out, they also not two times. They also not moving like us, brother. They're not moving like this. We shooting three, you know what I'm saying? So we did say somebody does Buy a miracle, get more views than us. By the time he drops that one episode, we already dropped three episodes with 300, 400, 200. This is a million views. We got these niggas packed up. I'm not. You can't dizzy me out. I know what's going on. So at the end of the year when the awards come out and fucking Jonathan and William wins that, we never heard of these niggas. They not moving nothing. No coaching, no nothing. You know the fix is in. I'm just trying to prepare you guys for the fix. Oh, no, the fix is in. There's no way. Me and you, we ain't political. We tell these people. Excuse my language. We tell them, suck our dick all the time. We not political. We not political. I got in trouble, man. I got a friend who's a big time jeweler, right? And I went on Nori's watch show and I said, yo, the man told me, yo, once again, I love you and your family, you beautiful people. I got nothing but love and respect for you. Maybe you didn't realize you told me. He told me like, yo, I said, yo, I want the AP acrylic. This is Jody. You gotta come kiss ass a little. Like, you know, you gotta come and kiss ass. I looked at him, you know, Nori says he calls them on their birthday, the watch guy. Nori be like, hey, John, happy birthday, buddy. Nori goes there, drinks a coffee with him. He play that game. I can't play that game. I'm buying some shit for 350,000, yo, sell me the shit. Like, I'm not kissing your ass and spending the 350. Beloved. It's just not happening. So he really got a problem with me. All our friends that know us today, like, yo, you broke his heart. I said, first of all, I ain't say his name, but I'm not breaking his heart. The man looked at me and told me lyrically, with his own lips, you have to kiss pause. You have to kiss ass to get the watch. I cannot do that, guys. Not me, not Fat Joe. I'm not doing that, bro. I'm not playing that game. But that's the kind of game you got to play when you want to be number one on a podcast. They want you to go up to whoever's holier than our than us and have dinner with them and start kissing they ass. And, hey, we really. Me and you are not going to do that.
Jadakiss
Definitely not.
Fat Joe
Other people are doing that. I watched somebody who really, really, really wanted a Grammy. What do you want. Everybody really wanted a gram. Not the same way, buddy. It's not the same way, okay? If you really want the Grammy, you got to kiss a million babies. You got to show up to every guitar school, every. There's a whole process for you to win the Grammy. You don't just win the Grammy because why was number one? You got to go out there and shake hands and kiss people and fly to Memphis to the guitar school. To this day, so much shit you gotta do to win a Grammy. They ain't just giving you the Grammy by mistake. Hey, his shit was better than his. That's not happening. I'm trying to put you on to some shit. If you don't know that by now, this whole shit is bullshit. So with that being said, do we think the Clips win any of the five awards? I think they win how many? What's your prediction? Cause you like the bet they gonna win. Hard rock bets. Throw it up.
Jadakiss
They nominated for five. They should walk away with at least one or two.
Fat Joe
I believe so. And they deserve it. The album was incredible. The album wasn't like. They ain't sell they soul. They stood to the clip sound. They got Pharrell with it too.
Jadakiss
That's what's going on.
Fat Joe
Pharrell known that's what's going on. To help him a lot. Pharrell know how to play the game. That's my. I'm happy. Because I'm happy. That motherfucker know what to do.
Jadakiss
I ain't get my jellyfish.
Fat Joe
You ain't get your. I seen you with some jellyfish the other day. You full of.
Jadakiss
Got them.
Fat Joe
You bought them?
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Fat Joe
I can't lie. They sent me some jellyfish.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
I know.
Fat Joe
Yeah, you're mad, J. Shout out to.
Jadakiss
My family over there. Gradual family that show. You know what I mean? Trying to. I'm trying to show love, yo.
Fat Joe
I ain't gonna lie to you. The jellyfish is comfortable. I got two pair.
Jadakiss
But they ain't supposed to.
Fat Joe
But they comfy, though, right? They feel. They feel good. The jellyfish was right, you know, Sneak of the year was the brick by brick. Nigel Sylvester, somebody stole a pair of motions. They stole your one pair. I got three pair sitting there. I'm saying now, I'm gonna keep it a buck, which. I got three pairs.
Jadakiss
Let me get another.
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah. I got. I got three pairs sitting there. The one thing you can't do is match. Did you match it? Match it now you can't, right? It got to be all black or something.
Jadakiss
You can't try to match.
Fat Joe
You can't just match it.
Jadakiss
Nothing matches.
Fat Joe
Damn. Nothing matched the brick by brick. Like I tried camel. You know who I learned that from? I learned that from years ago. Now everybody know years ago was AI. AI would always show up with some camo shit and some kicks, and I'd be like, damn. It always go like camel's like a blank plate. Like a green screen. It's like a green screen. My nigga, you rock that camel. You could rock whatever you want on the feet. The camel and whatever you want on the feet, it go. No, I'm saying Camel go with everything. I learned that from AI. AI was the first guy I used to see, he used to rock that camo and whatever. And I was like, damn, that's how you do it. You can get it off of the camera. You funny.
Jadakiss
Man.
Fat Joe
That brick by brick. What was one of your favorite kicks this year?
Jadakiss
The black fives with the white lace.
Fat Joe
No, that was. That was mean. That didn't make the top 10. And I don't believe that was mean. I wore those in Dubai. Will not cry.
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Fat Joe
Shout out to Kevin Lyles. You know Kevin Lyles is my neighbor, man. Today he blast this music so loud it was raining. Sound like Michael Jackson. I FaceTime him. I said, yo Kev, what you playing next door? Cause he blasting that shit in his backyard. He said, oh, it's my new artist. And he sent the shit over. Hold up, let me tell you who his new artist is, because I feel like he wanted me to mention this shit on the show. Come on. Was blowing that shit with. So that shit was like a park jab. Toxic Long for you A single by Justin Lee Schultz. This is mean. This song right here is beyond mean. But you know Kevin Lyles, he working. You know, he didn't wake up yesterday. Let's get to this guy. I don't really like this guy as a ball player. What's his name? Giddy from Chicago.
Jadakiss
Josh Gilley.
Fat Joe
I thought that was park talk. Like, yo, I'mma break your ankles. I didn't know it was literally, I'mma break your ankles. Your man from Cleveland. Who's your man from Cleveland? Hunter, that came from Atlanta, bro. Not only he crossed over, completed the dunk, they came and picked the guy up and he literally crossed him over so bad he broke his ankles. Like the dude. They sprained his ankle. Have you ever seen that? Yeah, I never even seen that in the park. You seen it in the pickup game in the park?
Jadakiss
I see people get hurt off of getting something happen.
Fat Joe
Like what you seen.
Jadakiss
It's the craziest shit of all time. I seen somebody get hit with a.
Fat Joe
Jab step that made him back all.
Jadakiss
The way up to the other court down there. And the other nigga didn't even move.
Fat Joe
Did he hit it? Did he hit the shot after the move?
Jadakiss
It was a timeout.
Fat Joe
Cause nobody. He went all the way down there.
Jadakiss
Off a jab step.
Fat Joe
Yeah, I was at the Rucker and I seen this guy, this guy, you know. You know, when you at the Rucker, the kids who ain't in the NBA, they get they name for playing against the NBA players. If you bust their ass on the court now, you a legend out there. Cause these guys in the NBA, I watched Jamal Tinsley bring that shit down so fast. And he went like this. And money flew. Flew. Money was trying to be aggressive, checking him. Money flew like on the bleachers, like he had a seat at the bleachers. He crossed that nigga so crazy. Homeboy flew into this bleacher seat like this. They just went up in there and laid it up like he just stopped. Bang. Money check flew into the. But this guy, Giddy. Giddy's was on the world. World's record right now from getting crossed over. He's worse than anybody ever in the history. I'm surprised they don't got him on roller skates, all type of shit, skateboarding waves. He need to be on waving. He needs to be waving like on the. Like surfing on the sub.
Jadakiss
And Kenny and them put him up.
Fat Joe
Then they throw that nigga in the wheelchair with the, with the, with the IV and shit. Like he might. What they did to this man, I never say. And I don't like this guy. Cause he plays really good against the Knicks. Chicago got a mean team this year. This Giddy, he don't see the Knicks. He. He killing Us. So when they did that to him, I was so happy. I was like, yeah, fucking hate this motherfucker. Anyway, that's the illness right there. What you thinking about this basketball season? You know, we undefeated at home, Knicks.
Jadakiss
We gotta play good on the road, though. Shout out to Ronnie. He thought he. When I called him about that jacket.
Fat Joe
You had on, Ronnie Kiff. Which one?
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The cream one.
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Hit me.
Jadakiss
He told me they was hitting Mike Brinkley.
Fat Joe
They was hitting Mike Brinkley. Don't do that.
Jadakiss
No, Brink's son worked for the Knicks. So they was hitting the Sun.
Fat Joe
They was hitting the sun thinking it was Mike Brinkley.
Jadakiss
Yeah, dawg, he owe me an apology.
Fat Joe
Ronnie Giff is the Don Culiani. A fast.
Jadakiss
It hit Brink Jr. Man.
Fat Joe
Did he give you the jacket? Nothing.
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Nothing.
Fat Joe
Nah, I don't. Nothing, Nah. Nothing. Nah, nah, nah. I got nothing. Nothing. Nothing. They knew nothing. If I don't have you, I didn't hit Brink Jr. Though. You know, he got it got confused on the phone. Look, Ronnie's a guy. He loves you. Ronnie's a stand up guy. He loves you. No, it's my dog.
Jadakiss
That's my guy.
Fat Joe
I believe that. What's that? That say less. Huh? What's that Say less. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know I came in the building. Yeah, the girl, that Dominican girl had that. Say less. I said, they deliver.
Jadakiss
I don't know how we don't got a food sponsor. By now.
Fat Joe
We should have been at least Jimmy John. I don't know what's going on. They ain't sponsoring us, Jimmy.
Jadakiss
A hot food sponsor.
Fat Joe
Say less. They said right? Right or wrong two times, let's say less, huh? No. Damn.
Jadakiss
What that sponsoring us though. We needed real, do a real deal.
Fat Joe
These people sponsored us. Say less. What's going on with Thanksgiving? You know, everybody losing. They snap, ebt, Welfare, life.
Jadakiss
That's messed up.
Fat Joe
No, super messed up. Like that's gonna give out some food.
Jadakiss
We gonna give out some turkeys.
Fat Joe
Trying to starve them into submission. Let me ask you a question. You. You throw it out all the time. You partner up with somebody like, you put up half, they put up half.
Jadakiss
I partner up with pcny, I gotta.
Fat Joe
Partner up with them again. Because the guys I normally partner up with, they not picking up. They like, yo, it's bad out. They ain't got it. They ain't got it. Yo, we gotta partner up. Yo, I gotta call pcny. Cause listen, usually what I do is if I put up 50,000, the food sponsor matches it with the 50,000 and we feed thousands of people this year's crickets. They not picking up the phone. Nobody who. They've been doing it with me for 10, 12, 15 years, bro. They not picking up the phone. Things are doing. And I'm like, yo, but what's up? What happened? I did something wrong. They like, yo, man, it's bad out here. They can't even give it out, you.
Jadakiss
Know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
They gonna force me to.
Jadakiss
Are you giving it out? Let's get the, you know, let's go live forces, man.
Fat Joe
We got.
Jadakiss
We doing it.
Fat Joe
We doing it.
Jadakiss
Best Eig for the people, man.
Fat Joe
You gotta do it big. I wanna shoot episode. When we give it out at the store, we have a couple of friends come by, some rappers just talk shit, you know what I'm saying? Talk about how important Thanksgiving is. Cause, you know, I remember my mom used to have to, you know, borrow sometimes from our family to. To feed us on Thanksgiving. And right now, it's harder times than ever. It's like, fucked up. You know what I'm saying? It's really fucked up out here in the streets. I watched this girl on social media, or a woman, she was like, if you got a beauty salon, if you got this, if you got that, if you got this kind of business and you've been putting in all that work and you ain't making no money, don't think it's because of you. It just ain't no money in the streets. This is an all time low. This is like a recession, a depression. This is shit you read about in the book. I'm telling you, Kiss, we bless. There's some people really fucked up out there. Like, really, really fucked up. Caught in the fucking politics right now. 42 million people caught up in limbo. No, they trying to starve them into submission, I'm telling you. You know, we don't talk about politics here, but it's fucked up. We gonna feed the people regardless. But I'm just saying that it's so bad that the people that donate with.
Jadakiss
Us, they ain't even not picking up.
Fat Joe
It's crazy. It's gone. They're not even picking up. Well, one of them picked up. They was just like, yo, it's fucked up out here. Like how we giving out to somebody. Motherfuckers ain't buying shit right now. Turkeys telling you, I got guys rich this year. I got guys that we've been like, packed turkeys, Spice ham, we might get them to Spam Tur Turkey. You ever ate the spam Turkey.
Jadakiss
You ever had a spurge Bam?
Fat Joe
Turkey's good. Yo, you never had the Spam Turkey. I had it. Spam Turkey. Nah, it's Spam, but it's turkey. It's not the swine. No pork on my fork, no ham in my pants.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Turkey.
Fat Joe
I might be the only Puerto Rican without. I went to the Italian deli. You know, Piccolos in Jersey. I go to Piccolo's. Right, Shout out to Piccolo's. No, Piccolo's got the fucking turkeys. It's the real Italian. It's like Arthur Avenue in the Bronx, but in Jersey. But in any case, I'm over there getting some Italian food. The ladies hustling me for Puerto Rican food. She's like, yo, where can I get the Ben Ning at? I need the best Ben Ning.
Jadakiss
Did you slug it?
Fat Joe
No, no. I told her I'm going to pick it up. I told her I'm going to pick up some Ben Ning for you, and I'm going to bring it over here because she's always good to me. These are your guys right here, brothers Eric and Jeff.
Jadakiss
I mean, it's the real in the building. I mean, juice, three BDs, y', all.
Fat Joe
They in the building now. I love these guys, but if they beat us as number one podcast, this is the. I'm talking about. Our. Is a whole different lane. I mean, no, I'm.
Jadakiss
We doing Cisco and Eboos. We in another lane with our podcast. That's why it's even able to exist, because we over. We out of the atmosphere with this we doing.
Fat Joe
We reviewing movies.
Jadakiss
You gotta come. You gotta come. Let us review one of the movies you was in.
Fat Joe
I mean, you weren't sitting out.
Jadakiss
Yeah, have a seat.
Fat Joe
See how white people is? They help themselves to the cap. They. Nobody told these to sit down. They're like, yo. They're like, yo, can we sit down? Like, hey, yes, maybe so. Yo, give him the handheld mic. These motherfuckers come take over this shit. Well, everybody loves these guys. They have a hell of a reputation for being great guys. They've been putting in work. Yeah, but you guys, you've been doing it for a long time. Can you tell our audience who you are?
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yeah, like this. Yo, what up? It's Eric, AKA the Baggage Handler, AKA Catch a Case.
Fat Joe
Yo, what up is Jeff, AKA Shooter Boy in Blue, AKA Papa Smurf, Where.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
It'S the real Yo Jada.
Fat Joe
You gave them the smoke.
Jadakiss
They was crazy. Like, that's how I met them. When I met him. They did one of them shits. I was looking at them like, who the are these guys?
Fat Joe
That's the mayor put me on to you.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Mayor. Mayor's our guy. We asked him if he was going to be here today. He was trying to move some things around.
Fat Joe
You know, he's always here. He's always. He always comes hang out. Today he was like. He was killing turkey. Yes. He told you that? Yeah, he's killing turkey. No, no. And mayor's house, for some reason, every year around Thanksgiving, he just like, 15 wild turkeys in the. In the yard. He hunting? No, no. He be like, yo, I'm telling y', all, shit that ain't got snap out here. Like, I'm ready to kill the turkeys. They go to jail. Where the they come from? Look, you can't kill a turkey. But where they come from? Like, the woods. Every year they come.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Mayor could do whatever he wants, right?
Fat Joe
But why they come down every year around the same time?
Jadakiss
Holiday. They come down for the holiday, man. They want sweet potato pop.
Fat Joe
Let me. Let me tell you something. I moved to Miami, and I built me one of the most beautiful homes I ever built was in plantation Florida. And it was horse. They. No, no, it was horses. They had. Horses. They had. It was like. It was like mansions, but it was like farm life. And at night, you hear animals. It'd be like, nigga, you from the Bronx. You used to hearing fucking ambulance and 40 bottles this shit. Hey, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm scared to death, mother. I said, like, who the fuck? Like. Cause, you know, Florida, I wouldn't put it past a motherfucker having the tiger in his backyard. It's like they into these animals. That was a scary animal. And then the raccoons come. The raccoons is like three, four deep. It was like a cartoon, a movie. They come through, I start banging on the wind. They don't give a fuck. Raccoons are not scared of you. They open up the g. They know how to open up the garbage, go through your shit in your face, and you can't do shit. Man, I was miserable out there. Like, every day I would. I would try to go to the pool at night. Like, tiptoe to the pool, hoping no animal was out in that. That's a different type of thing. But Mayor, he keep the. The turkey just pull up.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yeah, Joe, we had a podcast that we did from 2015 all the way to 2020 on a weekly basis, right? And then moving up to Christmas, we would do 12 episodes in 12 days. So we did a Lot of content, right? It was called a waste of time with its thrill. And we had everyone on from Stevie Wonder to Cardi B. People come over to our crib and sit down, right? Jeezy and Ross. And the list went on and on. Number one on our list that we never got to sit down with Joe Crack the Don, not for lack of trying. We hit up Angie, we hit up Mayor. We hit up Rich the player.
Fat Joe
Now they got your too viral. These ain't like we. I'm telling you. These ain't like me. And I would have went on your. And we'd have been on every newspaper in the world. Because I just. I would have been like, ain't nobody watching these white guys. Let me say. Crazy astronomical. Be like, oh, my God, this fat. You hear this shit? That talking over there? Like, yo, I would have went crazy.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
We live on the Upper west side. We were told that was too far for you to go 100%. And then one day, one day we're walking on Broadway, there's a black truck, and who pops out of the passenger seat to go to Paris Baguette? Joe Crack the Don. And when we ran into you another time, we were like, yo, and you.
Fat Joe
Were on our block, and you were like, I ran. I ran. I bumped into you guys a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's never at the crib.
Jadakiss
It's never for the interview.
Fat Joe
Never for the interview. Nah, I got mad love for them.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
No, I appreciate it.
Fat Joe
I love what they do.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
And we. You listen, you. You guys are killing it up here.
Fat Joe
We are right now. I'm being really cheap with the interviews. Like, right now. I'm going to keep it real with you.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
That's why we had to sneak on here.
Fat Joe
Yeah, I was staying away with. Ask a question to Fat Joe that you might want to ask you up here. We don't give a fuck. This show ain't about nothing, but ain't no professionality to this shit. We don't give a fuck.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Joe, I just want to let you know that there. And I've told you this before, there was a moment when you were on with Nori, and those are some of, like, the most epic conversations ever.
Fat Joe
Legendary, legendary type of shit.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yo, we would tell Styles. We're like, yo, we just want to pull up and sit down at dinner and hear Joe talk. Like, for real. Like, we just. You are the greatest storyteller in hip hop. This platform is amazing. But when you were on with Nori, you told a story when you got locked up and you Walked into that jail and everyone was fucking cheering for you and banging on that cheering.
Fat Joe
It was intimidating. Yo, that shit was like a dragon with no fire. It was like the dragon for. What's the movie where the dragon kills everybody with the fire and shit. From hbo.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Game of Thrones.
Fat Joe
Game of Thrones. You walk in. Y' all telling you. No, man. Yeah, listen, first of all, Puff Daddy got a suite. He went to a Fort Dix, a New York jail where everybody he knows is in there.
Jadakiss
New Jersey.
Fat Joe
They sent New Jersey. I was supposed to go there. And on Saturday, he said, yo, you live in Miami. You going to the Miami gym. I was going to go to Four Diggs. They had fucking rock bottles ready for me. Double mattresses, floss. Millionaire was in there. Ching, bing, all of it. The whole planet was waiting for me. The feds must have heard that. They said, oh, no, this guy is even going to be too much trouble, or this is going to be out of control. Send them to Miami. So when I walk in there, it's 2,000 guys. Aryan Nation, Haitians, Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans. This. Just sound like a fucking motorcycle when it's doing this shit. I'm like, yo, this I had to walk in. And it's the only time in my life where I had to check myself. Because they was walking me to my cell, where I was like, yo, Joe, you really. Than all these niggas. Don't fold. Don't fold. Because it felt like me against 2000 guys. Because I didn't know one person. I didn't look at one person was like, all right, I know him. I knew nobody. And they all in there. And the fucking walls are made out of metal. I went in my cell, and then whoever the rappers was try to run in the cell, whoever the 30 rappers was who've been waiting their whole life to get in the game came and I was like, yo, yo, yo, you gotta get out the cell can't come in the shit. This ain't no rapper shit. You know, I tell you what's crazy is in that same jail that has two. Where I just told you, I'm intimidated. They have 2,000 guys and they got four tables. So there's TV, there's the Spanish, sports, English, give a fuck if you speak Spanish. Now, everybody looking at Spanish chicks up on that, that got more black dudes looking at that than Spanish. Like, tuned in like, oh, my God, she's my favorite Rosalita. Like, they don't give a right. But they got four tables, and each table got like, the more to the stories. I asked this guy, I said, yo, man who sits there, he looks at me because, yo, Jada, I keep trying to tell you. A lot of guys pussy. Most men are pussy. I'm telling you the truth. I get up in there, and he looks at me like I'm like, he was scared for me. Asking him, like, he didn't even want to be in a conspiracy. I said, yo, who sits in those tables? He's like. Like, AKA the toughest niggas in the world got them tables. There's a guy sitting there. I go down. I tell the guy. I'm only there 10 minutes. I tell a guy, yo, get the fuck up looking at me. He say, yo, what you mean, get up? This our table. I said, like. I said, get the fuck up. You got to get busy something. Cause we. I need this table. The whole jail was watching. There's 2,000 inmates watching the guy fold. He'd get up, he'd walk away. He ain't want no smoke. He just got up. That's it. That's the end of his table. But I also lost a thousand other inmates was mad at me because this ain't cuddly. Fat Joe the rapper, it's like, oh, he's on bullshit. Frat Joe took the table. He's. He's on some shit. But, you know, I only had four months, and I was willing to get in the fight, get in the box for four months. You know, you would have heard Fat Joe got beat up by a hundred guys. It would have been a story like, yo, 100 guys beat him up. They dragged him, and he fought a hundred. You know, I wouldn't have let nobody down. That's the thing with jail. When you go to jail and you somebody who. Too many people who've been saying that you're a real guy for their whole life and all that, you can't let them down. When you in there, you can't have no stories of you being played pussy. No compromising stories. You gotta go. It's not even. I'm by myself. I'm with every guy that ever said what's up to me? Or ever was down with me or ever said, fat Joe's a real one, I got to go in there and protect that. That's how I had to give it up. Like, anybody who saw me in there, they had to be like, the other day, I'm in the party money, Matt's birthday. My man Tafia, he could tell you, you want to bring Tafia on there. He was the only guy locked up with me. He from Miami. I seen him in the club the other day. I told everybody at the table, if y' all don't believe what I say, go ask that guy. That guy was locked up on Tafia. He'll tell you. You know what I'm saying? And it's just. It is what it is. Tafia, that's my brother from down in Miami, but Tafia was locked up. Neither one guy to be in the scene that he could tell you what it is and not. You know, I had mentoring. So I had my brother Opie Megatron, who had 20 years in jail. I had Pistol Pete with another 20 years in jail. It was about three of them. And I'd be like, what to do, what not to do, right? And they was like, yo, you can't let nobody in your cell. That's a violation, Right? Then in the cell, the tough guy sleeps in the bottom, the other guy sleeps on the top. That's another conversation I had as soon as I came in the set. But this guy was a good guy. This guy. He was a Muslim dude. And I walked in the cell, and I was like, yo, you gotta go to the top. He said, what? I said, you have to sleep on the top. This is in one minute. Like, yo, kiss. The motherfuckers didn't even get a minute to breathe. I'm like, yo, you gotta go up top. He was like, what? I said, brother, you have to go up there. I sleep down here. I've been here 18 months. This is my cell. Just. Bro, I don't care what you think, what you heard, what you think. You got to go up there. I'm sleeping here. And then the guy, you know, once he went outside, they must have told him who I was, because he came back. I didn't know who you is. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. This is. I said, nah, nah, nah. It's all good. But that was it, you know, they gave me a rule book, shit not to do. They told me, never play basketball. Cause said that's where motherfuckers value on purpose, like, going for the ball back. Imagine the dude do that to you once or twice. He's got to turn into a fight. So they was like, yo, don't even play basketball. I said, what you mean? I might want to play back. They was like, that's exercising your euro. Yeah, that's where the motherfucker. I couldn't do the euro to him. You know, I coached in there, 40 and over. And I won the chip, 40 and older, and they bounced the ball like this. Yo, James, like the Bad News Bear. They was the most horrible niggas. Let me tell you something. I worked in the kitchen. There was a dude, me and him was super cool. He joined that 40 and over basketball league. They might have lost 100 to 1. These guys was bouncing the ball like the Bad News Bear. The next Saturday went out there, they lost 100 to 1. It was embarrassing. The next Saturday, I walked out 6 in the morning, I went in the court, I said, you here, you here, you here. When this guy come here, you move to the thing, you go like this. See how easy it is? Yeah, just go, yo, listen, I swear to God, I went up in there and I coached them, and they wound up winning the chip. It turned into like the Rucker. Every Saturday was crazy. But now by the second, third week, I'm coaching them nice niggas is like, yo, crack, let me be on the team. I mean, this hip was dunked him in the head. Like, the nice dudes came and it was like, yo, crack, put me on the team. That's when that shit got crazy. It got crazy lit. Motherfucker thought they was at the Rucker in Miami. But I was coaching, but I helped them got. They won the chip.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Winners sleep on the bottom, right?
Fat Joe
The winners sleep on the bottom. Yeah, Paul.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Then.
Fat Joe
Yeah. Welcome to the show.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Can I tell you how we all, like, linked up in the first place?
Fat Joe
Let us know.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
All right, so you know this guy.
Fat Joe
Took over our show. I gotta respect God. Nah, nah, not your kids. They've got legendary right here.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yeah, we had this weekly podcast that we would do. Everyone would come and we would tell this story from like the beginning of your life to where we are today. Everyone, everyone sat down, did the same shit. So the guys knew us so well that when they signed to Roc Nation, they were going to put out their ep. They wanted to come promote it on our platform. So the three of them are going to come up to our apartment, sit down, tell their story as the Locks. Cool. Except for the fact that before they showed up, Sheik was totally sober. Stiles took an edible and, you know, he's a professional. And then Kiss, right, to sleep on the table while we're recording.
Fat Joe
Yo, Kiss. Sometimes he come in here so hot, y'. All. I can smell that shit, man. I'm like, I know when they give him the good shit or they give him the maintained shit. There's a weed that's maintained, maintain. He hot, he chilling, he in the Moment. Then there's some times that boy come up in here, fry. I said, yo, they gave this the pure the day this nigga got some shit. So that day. Yeah, out.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
But he would wake up every once in a while. He would start, like, singing New Edition.
Fat Joe
Songs, or he would, like, just chime in with, like, other things that, like.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Didn'T have anything to do with anything.
Fat Joe
With no additions to all that. Yo.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
So meanwhile, Luch and P Are yelling about movies, and they're looking around, and they're looking at the bookshelves, and they're like, oh, you fuck with the Big Lebowski. He wakes up, he's like, you gotta talk about the Color Purple. We're like, what is going on? I said, whatever this energy is, you guys need to have your own podcast. Just like we do one, except you talk about movies. And styles goes, no, we're gonna do one, and we're gonna call it Two Jews and Three Black Jews Review the Movies. And so here we are eight years later, doing on a weekly basis, talking about Home Alone, talking about Trading Places, talking about sinners, talking about weapons.
Fat Joe
I met him. I met a young man. Rambo.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Rambo.
Fat Joe
I met a young man. He's autistic. I met him at a sneaker store. I want to say where. I'm sorry, guys. I want to say where, because I copped some good sneakers there. But the kid, he know every movie, what year, what actor. I was like, warriors. Hey, that's Lady Johnson. That's that 1977. This, this, and that. Yo, what about the Wanderers? Hey, that's Jonathan Adler. This, this, this. He knew every. He's like the Rain Man.
Jadakiss
We need them all.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
No, it's actually no fun. By the time. By the fourth or fifth one, you like this guy know everything. I don't know where it was somewhere. I don't know where. I don't want to say where it was a sneaker store. They showed me nothing but love. Damn. I don't know where. I want to say, like, Kansas City or something. And the man comment, he know everyone.
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Fat Joe
Mondami, right? We all New Yorkers, right? Yep. What you think about Mondani?
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Love him. We. We met him when we roll with the locks to the Wu Tang show.
Jadakiss
Told you he came to my dress room.
Fat Joe
Yeah, Donald Trump came to your too, but yeah, he won't. Don't worry about it.
Jadakiss
Donald Trump was in Diddy's dressing.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yo.
Fat Joe
Yo, yo. Let me tell you something. Kiss, yo, yo, kiss. Definitely, always. No, he was in Danny's dressing room.
Jadakiss
That's where I first seen him at.
Fat Joe
Before any elections, any of that. Y' all used to see Donald Trump walking down the street in New York. No bullshit. See him at Nick Games, boxing matches, walking down the street. I used to see him in New York City. Manhattan. Oh shit. Donald Trump. And he just walking like a regular dude. That's crazy. But Mondame, you like him.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Love him, love him. We need change. We need hope, we need, like to do something different. I'm tired of being in this place where everyone's getting priced out. Why are there no creatives, young creatives in New York anymore? Because they're all moving to more affordable cities. You can't stay here. You can't create here. It's a longer, you know, a bigger, deeper thing than, than just, you know, what the news tells you.
Fat Joe
You Know, a guy like me who make a lot of money, I should be on the other side, right? I never seen people hate a guy who says he wants to give less rent. Free bus rides, this thing. I hate them. I want to pay more. Fuck this mondami. It's only mansions where I live. It's only the rich people go to the restaurants I go to. I'm sitting here, this fuck Mandami, them shits is flying from all over. This guy, you believe he wants lower rent, he wants free buses. Fuck this guy, he's a commie. I'm like, yo, what happened? People want to pay more. They want to. Actually. This is crazy to me, Rob. Like, yo, I listen, I go, yo, I ain't in politics, but this is bugged out, yo.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
There's a lot of people who aspire to have money like you. A lot of people who aspire to live on the.
Fat Joe
Way. More money than me, totally.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
No, no, for sure. But there are people who aspire for that. But there's also so many people who aren't doing that, you know, so many people are struggling to make it through and like, why shouldn't they have a chance? Why shouldn't they, like, be allowed to like, enjoy the city? Why do they got to be priced out and move to like another state and not be a part of this? Like, what is New York if not like a chance for young creatives to. To do their thing and like make it here?
Fat Joe
You know, you make it here, you make it anywhere. But it's just the same fucked up. Everything seems unfair. Yeah, it feels like there's the rich get richer, there's no middle class and they just real poor people. He's really crazy. They say he's the number one realtor for Florida. So everybody's going down to Florida. Well, good luck. That expensive.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yo.
Fat Joe
My wife was looking at Palm Beach. The crackhead house is 89 million. Good luck. No Mar a Lago for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dead ass, number one realtor, they say my damnia. Because you know, people like, oh well, they did it when.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
If everyone's moving, like, let us know, let us, let us know your address and we'll, you know.
Fat Joe
I ain't gonna lie to you, Covid happened. Yeah, a lot of people moved down to Florida and so I'm going to like, say Carbone. I'm seeing my neighbors from New York. Everybody I know from New York is in the restaurant every night. That did happen and they've been talking about that since I was a kid. But they would never do it. Yo, we going to Florida. Fuck that. But it really happened. Where everybody from New York was in every restaurant, everything they moved down there. So it felt like the Knicks game every night in every upscale restaurant in fucking Miami, right? But now the other half who stood in New York, they're starting to say, yeah, I'm going to Boca Raton. I'm going to Palm Beach. I'm going to Florida. Like, they literally are saying that. You know what I'm saying? Everywhere I'm going. The other night, I was in a restaurant. Shout out to my people. Pietro. You know, Pietros on the east side, they got them sauteing clams. That shrimp salad. God damn it. That popping the salad feel like a meal. Shrimp salad is so good. But everybody in that restaurant, you know, you hearing the Montamis to, I'm going to Florida, yo. Boca Raton. Like, they. They. They. They got a real problem with this.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
You know what else I love? He's young. Like, I'm tired of, like, older politicians, ones who are getting, like, way up there, deciding what everybody else.
Jadakiss
I don't know.
Fat Joe
That's a shaky one.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Why is that?
Jadakiss
You gotta watch his ass.
Fat Joe
He gotta watch his food. Yo, you gotta be careful, man. You think he got a food? He got. He need a food tester.
Jadakiss
Need everything.
Fat Joe
You know, back in the day, the kings that had somebody eat the food and then be like, all right. Even in the Indian movies back in the day, they'd be like, yo, taste the food. Like, my dummy got a food taster.
Jadakiss
Should get one.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
I'm here for change. I'm here for young people making some decisions, doing something different.
Fat Joe
You know, I got so discouraged with politics that I just been out the scene. My diamond's probably somebody I really would have knew about, really would have been into. I just. I just been trying to, like, yo, stay focused on your, you know, stand out the way.
Jadakiss
Each his own bottle Patron.
Fat Joe
Each his own bottle of Patron. I ain't hear that in a minute. You've been really opinionative on this show. That's the first time you said he's his own bottle of Patron.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yo, you know what?
Fat Joe
No lying.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
So we go up to the studio up in Yonkers. We tape every week. We talk about these movies. We never bring up politics. We never bring up, like, you know, that's good. Serious worldly issues. It is a chance to escape. We just talk about movies. We do. Is Jadakiss Italian. What? Chic Mad about karate, man. With Styles P, we just have a lot of Fun up there. And so it's. It's something different that gets to flood your timeline instead of, like, the realities of the world, you know?
Fat Joe
How old are you, brother? How old do you think I am? I'm asking you. Looking like a fucking young guy, but how old I be home? Hold on, hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 46. He might be a tweener.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
This guy might be a tweener, right? This looking like a nerd over here. How old are you? I'm 41. He's 41. With a full set of heads. With a full set of heads. No.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Well, let me ask you this. Let me ask you.
Fat Joe
He's got a full. Yo, that's a big deal. Like a set of knives, you know, you always.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yeah, well, let me ask you this. Would you rather have hair or be able to dunk?
Fat Joe
I'd rather have hair. You know, I changed my whole name. If I got here, my name would be. I be coming up here with Part with the. I have more spray than John Travolta Saturday Night Fever. My shit be glossy. Yeah, yo, by the way, so glow, yo. Yeah, I'll be up here. Like, no, I'm telling you, I'd be really obnoxious, yo. I have hairstylists. And right now, like, right now, I'll be like, cut for a sec. If I come in, slice his out, I give him the finger waves. I come up here with the finger waves.
Jadakiss
That'll buckle you with finger waves and put down, dog.
Fat Joe
I'll do it. The other day, I'm in traffic on the fdr. I looked to the side, this girl had the finger words. I said, man, now that's real dedication. I fucking dedicate. That's hours under the fucking beauty salon.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Yo, shout out to Pecos. He never misses a chance to put up a throwback picture of him with hair up on Instagram.
Fat Joe
Yo, bro, look, with him, I had hair. I look like the braid. Yo, yo, no, I look like the Brady Bunch. Back in the day, when I was a kid, I had real fucking hair. Nobody believed me till I bust the bitches out. It was like, God damn, this guy was. This guy was the Brady Bunch. Well, what was the last straw? The truth is. Happy birthday, Big Pun. It's Big Pun's birthday today. Big Pun.
Jadakiss
Happy birthday.
Fat Joe
My boy the Stunner. All my friends call me Stun. And so with Big Pun, he had hair, right? So I always had a Caesar, since I was, like, 14. The thing was, for me, when I was a kid, the gangsters had a bald head. When I first cut my hair bald, my father chased me around the projects four times trying to beat my ass. Cause he knew the cut automatically meant I'm down with a gang, I'm tough, something. It was no way around it when I had hair like A Brady Bunch. And then I had the baldy. My father was outside enough to know this means he wants to be a piece of shit in life. So my father chased me around the block four times trying to fuck me up. So I always had it like that. And then I started telling Pun, yo, you know, I got hair. Like I still thought I did. I said, I got hair like the Brady Bunch. My. Like, you think you got hair? I got. If I grow this, forget it. My shit be like yours. He was like your ain't growing. Like I said, I promise. I said, you know what? I'mma get braids for you. I'mma do braids. Watch me get the braids. Like, AI shit like that, man. I try to grow that. That was like. That was the thinnest hair in the world. I never forget. We went to a Knick game, I had, like, some little rubber bands on the little head. It was growing. That punk killed me on that. He's like, yo, you ain't got no hair. This is. And that's when I realized I had no hair. And so I said, man, take it off. There's no more Brady Bunch. You know what I'm saying, for me. But I wish I had hair. I'm not gonna lie. That's one of the things I wish I. Huh? Yeah. Go to Turkey. Go to Turkey. Yeah. I don't know if Turkey. I've had no hair. I've had no hair for so long. I have no hair for so long. They. It'll feel weird to even get hair right. If I went to Turkey. Go get the curls.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
What if you got, like, a little thing in the back? Carlos Boozer.
Fat Joe
Yeah. Listen, guys, I ain't the one. I ain't doing asshole shit. I'm telling you that if I went to Turkey and my shit goofy black full flooded would be the return of a cg. My shit, Alejandro is in the building. Alejandro Roas, you remember Fat Joe.
Jadakiss
What's up with this? Giants coach fired.
Fat Joe
Well, they ain't never win a game, huh? You like that move, huh? Hell. And it's just out of it. All right, let me ask you a question, right? Being that you said that at the jets game on the field was Max B. Yeah. Welcome home.
Eric aka Baggage Handler / Jeff aka Shooter Boy
Welcome home.
Fat Joe
Bigger Val. Have you ever in your life seen a dude do 18 years in jail? Come out, go to the fuel of the jets and Louis Vuitton. It's down to the fanny pack now. Let's keep it up. Park.
Jadakiss
He did.
Fat Joe
He came out of jail. They was throwing ice on his neck. Louis Vuitton down like, yo, come on, man, we can't. And the thing is, I don't know if he was in a time capsule. Gained a little weight in 18 years, but he looked like Big Eval. No, I never seen nobody look like they preserved him. He might have been in the Michael Jackson in there, the fucking machine. Because he came out just. It was 18 years, 16 when you see him and you see how he's moving. He went to the after party last night. He looked like Max B. Like the guy. Last time I saw him, 16 years ago, he was in a club in Manhattan looking the same way, and he dead nice. I don't think he fell off. I think Big Avell gonna come with all them flows and all that. I'm really watching that. The Max B wave, because he's the waveguard. I'm trying to explain it to my daughter, explain it to my family. I say, yo, this guy, the Wave. What do you mean, he's the Wave? He's the Wave.
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Fat Joe
Like, remember that nigga be on the DVDs. Like, I'm gorgeous, I'm fly. Look at my head, it's Max B. The King. So now Max B Goes. He comes out of jail. French is there. He says, we're going to Morocco. Let's get to the business. He in the studio same day. That's Max B. Like, I mean, how do you go from. All right, now, my thing is, Lori, police. Close your ears with this one. I ain't do 18 years in jail. But what I do know is that all my friends in jail tell me stories how the police just fucked with them, rode them, told them they wasn't shit. They had a cop who went in Remy's cell for seven years straight talking about, you ain't shit. Ain't nobody waiting for you. This is what they do. They try to make you feel less of whatever. Suppose that cop in Max B's life who was fucking with her, who thought he wouldn't come home to nothing. And there's a Jets fan tuned into the game. And Max B. Was on that court. Not much of a cock smuggler. That nigga felt like that correction officer. He felt like the biggest dick you ever seen in your life. A smoking piece of. I Remember Remy? They took Remy. Listen, they took Remy to the last drop. Remy was on parole. She was on tv. They knew she was rich all the way up, was number one in the country. They wasn't giving her permission to do shows. They were. They was fucking with Remy. She ended up with an ankle bracelet. They watching on tv, Black love this. This dad number one in the country, this. And they was with Remy to the point. I'll never forget, man. She had to go so they could cut her shit off to take her off parole. I came up, pulled up, I was in the. The drop top Rolls Royce was the shit. The damn. I had that bitch, you know, the drop top Rolls Royce with the black and the red. I had it for that summer. And I pull up, and when I tell you, if they had 20 parole officers in the building, all 20 of them was outside. She wasn't even their client or not. They was out. They. We pull the fuck up. Cut the shit off, man. Fuck all you niggas. Suck my dick. Fuck all you niggas out here. They all lined up. I'm violating these niggas so crazy. Fuck y'. All. Y' all know what y' all did this. They came to the last drop. Ask Remy. When we bring Remy on the show. They stood in front of that building to the last drop. My, if it was 11:59, they could fuck with her. They fucked with her to 1159. She went up in there, the whole precinct, the whole. Every probation officer that had nothing to do with her was outside like it was their day came out. We cursed these niggas out. We jumped in the drive top, we pulled off out of you. I keep it to myself, but I got a problem with authority and all that shit, you know what I'm saying? Cops want to talk to you like you ain't shit. You less of a man. You ain't never gonna be this rich as me, man. Don't play yourself, man. Like, be clear about this. Just give me the ticket. I want the ticket. I want the ticket. You ain't gotta scold me and scream at me in front of my wife, in front of my family and talk to me like, yo, bro, you're not on this level and you know it, buddy, but you gotta stop. Give me the ticket, buddy. Give me the ticket. Yo, this kid. Let me tell you something. I ended with this. I think I said this before. It's a young Puerto Rican kid. He can't be older than 23, 24. I go through the midtown tunnel, the queen side, and for some reason, the easy pass don't work. I pull over, he comes up. It's like three of them, own license, registration. I give him my license. My license is Florida. I lived in Florida for 23 years. He goes, oh, hell no. Supposed to be New York, this, that. I don't know what this nigga was talking about, right? So he over there about 10 minutes discussing it with them. I guess they telling him, yo, it's Fat Joe, let him go. You know. So he come back, I said, my nigga, the ticket or let me go. I ain't got no real rap for you. I'm not going back and forth with you. And you know your father had a poster of me on his walk violating right now. All right, Mr. Joe, let me go. I'm not playing that shit with these niggas, but these niggas. You gotta be fucking kidding me. This ain't that. That ain't this cracking. Kiss God damn it, y'.
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Date: November 18, 2025
Hosts: Fat Joe, Jadakiss
Production: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
In this vibrant, rapid-fire episode, hip-hop veterans Fat Joe and Jadakiss dive deep into the big issues and stories shaking up hip hop right now. They tackle the significance of no hip hop records in the Billboard Top 40 for the first time in 35 years, celebrate Clipse's five Grammy nominations, and debate the meaning and politics of award shows. Joe and Jada give raw thoughts on the new Michael Jackson biopic, reminisce about sneaker culture, discuss New York's changing landscape and real estate, and welcome special guests Eric and Jeff (It's The Real) for inside talk on podcasting, jail stories, Max B's release, and much more. The episode is a mix of unfiltered opinion, personal anecdotes, hip hop history, and street wisdom—with plenty of quotables in the original, high-energy style of the hosts.
[05:58–08:45]
“Shout out to Clipse, man. Five Grammy nominations, you know what I mean? That means something. So somewhere, somebody, something ain't maffin.”
— Jadakiss [08:06]
[16:33–26:55]
“I should have won many Grammys. ... Lost to, like, I don't know who was it... Come on, let's Lean Back, man.”
— Fat Joe [16:33]
“Just because they say they number one, that just means they got friends picking who's number one. They not really number one.”
— Fat Joe [20:47]
[08:42–16:33]
“A lot of the shit they did to Michael Jackson was ahead of the time... If MJ had beef with anybody... they was controlling that narrative in the fucking magazines.”
— Fat Joe [09:47–11:53]
“Right now the phone is different. We get to see more aspects. ... But back in the day, in the MJ era, they could control the media.”
— Fat Joe [13:12]
[26:39–27:10, 26:39–27:10]
“The album was incredible. ... They stood to the clip sound. They got Pharrell with it too.”
— Fat Joe [26:43]
“Pharrell know how to play the game... That motherfucker know what to do.”
— Fat Joe [26:55]
[27:15–29:18]
“The one thing you can't do is match... Camo’s like a blank plate. ... Green screen. ... Camel go with everything.”
— Fat Joe [28:13]
[65:22–70:37]
“I never seen people hate a guy who says he wants to give less rent, free bus rides... What happened? People want to pay more?”
— Fat Joe [66:41]
“Why are there no creatives, young creatives in New York anymore? Because they're all moving to more affordable cities. ... You can't stay here. You can't create here.”
— Eric [66:19]
[40:07–42:49]
“Things are doing... They ain't got it... It just ain’t no money in the streets. This is an all-time low. ... a recession, a depression.”
— Fat Joe [41:17]
[45:19–47:53, 58:23–61:15]
“You are the greatest storyteller in hip hop. This platform is amazing.”
— Eric [49:46]
“I had to walk in. And it's the only time in my life where I had to check myself. ... you can't have no stories of you being played pussy.”
— Fat Joe [50:16–51:53]
“Sometimes he come in here so hot, y' all. I can smell that shit, man ... there's a weed that's maintained, maintain. He hot, he chilling... Then there's some times that boy come up in here, fry.”
— Fat Joe [59:09]
[75:59–77:34]
“Have you ever in your life seen a dude do 18 years in jail, come out, go to the field of the Jets in Louis Vuitton... He looked like Big Eval.”
— Fat Joe [76:14]
"Suppose that cop in Max B's life... and Max B. Was on that court. ... That nigga felt like that correction officer. He felt like the biggest dick you ever seen in your life."
— Fat Joe [77:35]
The conversation is lively, braggadocious, brotherly, and irreverent—with frequent laughter, storytelling, and gems from life in hip hop, the streets, and the industry. Both Joe and Jada maintain a balance between humor and hard-truths, while their guests keep the vibe light and relatable.