Fetty Wap talks ‘Zavier’ album, NEW chapter in career & music industry’s hard lessons

Summary

Podcast Summary: Joe and Jada ft. Fetty Wap

Episode: Fetty Wap talks ‘Zavier’ album, NEW chapter in career & music industry’s hard lessons
Date: March 31, 2026
Hosts: Fat Joe ("Joe Crack"), Jadakiss ("Jada")
Guest: Fetty Wap
Duration Covered: [03:17] – [51:41] (Content sections only)

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Episode Overview

This episode features platinum-selling artist Fetty Wap in a deeply personal, insightful conversation with Fat Joe and Jadakiss. Touching on Fetty's rebirth after incarceration, the challenges and pitfalls of the music industry, and the creative journey behind his new album ‘Zavier’, the discussion blends tough-life lessons, wisdom from hip-hop legends, and real talk about money, fame, loyalty, and second chances.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Coming Home After Incarceration

• Fetty’s Reflection on His Return

  • The hosts compare Fetty's return to freedom with other legendary ‘homecomings,’ praising his drive and immediate jump back into work ([05:40]-[06:22]).
  • Quote:
    “His release from incarceration was one of the best and different and amazing that we seen, like, Max B. Where he actually went to see the lane. He went directly to the bag.”
    — Jada [06:22]

• The Downward Spiral and Taking on Too Much Alone

  • Fetty Wap explains that his downfall resulted from trying to handle everything himself, firing management, booking shows, and eventually feeling overwhelmed. This led to old habits resurfacing to support his family.
    • Quote:
      “Just doing too much with people. Like the saying, go. Like I kept pouring out an empty cup... I was just doing everything by myself... At a certain point, it was like, you know what? Like, I'm doing more than I can handle by myself.”
      — Fetty Wap [07:57]

• Adjusting to New Realities

  • Fat Joe relates to the financial swings artists experience and the need to adjust lifestyle accordingly ([10:27]-[12:42]).
  • Quote:
    “I’ve had those times in my life where I gotta adjust to say, all right, shit is slow right now. Let’s start eating some diner food. Ty. Shit, get back up.”
    — Ebro Darden (Fat Joe) [10:27]

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2. Life & Lessons in Prison

• The Reality of Jail for a Celebrity

  • Fetty Wap describes starting his sentence at MDC Brooklyn, the challenges of adapting in a federal prison, and the process of blending in and surviving as a famous face ([13:44]-[15:29]).
    • Quote:
      “I just went in there moving around… you just, you ain’t got no choice but to adapt to it. Either that or just go to PC.”
      — Fetty Wap [15:09]

• Prison Reflections: Growth and Regret

  • Time inside gave Fetty space to consider how he'd spent money and time, especially on family versus hangers-on ([17:16]-[18:09]).
    • Quote:
      “Jail definitely made me realize… everything I was doing wrong about myself, for the family, for the kids… it just made me realize, like, you know what? This time when you come home... you owe them that time back.”
      — Fetty Wap [17:16]

• Disloyalty Tested

  • Fetty details disappointment in friends who didn’t hold him down during his time away, confirmed by Fat Joe’s similar experiences ([18:09]-[19:26]).
    • Quote:
      “Of course they did.”
      — Fetty Wap, when asked if people disappointed him [18:16]
    • Quote:
      “Those guys, they no good. They never gonna turn around and be good. They’re never gonna be loyal.”
      — Ebro Darden [19:13]

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3. The Creative Rebirth: ‘Zavier’ & Alter Egos

• Writing Behind Bars

  • Fetty shares that in solitary ("the shoe") for 6.5 months, he started reconnecting with music creatively ([19:42]-[20:33]).
    • Quote:
      “That’s when everything started coming to me. Like, that’s when I really had that sit back time… as soon as I got to a good jail... they locked me right back.”
      — Fetty Wap [19:42]

• About the ‘Zavier’ Album

  • Fetty explains ‘Zavier’ is an alter ego—a matured evolution of his “Zoo” persona, representing personal growth and a return to form ([22:27]-[23:44]).

    • Quote:
      “That’s like my alter ego… at one point, I was changing my name anyway, so that was my name, Zavier.”
      — Fetty Wap [22:46]

  • The sound is described as classic Fetty, but matured, mixing new styles and personal stories ([23:34]-[23:44]).

    • Quote:
      “It’s a little mixture of both… just a more mature version of me, that’s all.”
      — Fetty Wap [23:34]

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4. Industry Realities: Management, Money & Trust

• Pitfalls for Artists: Contracts & Loyalty

  • Fat Joe and Jada discuss the music industry’s cutthroat nature, how artists are often controlled or sabotaged by those around them, and the importance of learning from mistakes ([31:44]-[35:32]).
    • Quote:
      “I never believed in holding people against their will or because I signed a talented person… but, you know, it’s crazy.”
      — Ebro Darden [31:44]
    • Quote:
      “The faster we know we gettin’ done wrong, the faster you could get out of that situation. But it’s to learn from there and then to educate those that's coming up. Because it’s going to keep happening as long as you don’t have the knowledge.”
      — Jada [34:38]

• Dangers With Lawyers & Accountants

  • Multiple anecdotes about betrayals by lawyers and accountants, underscoring the rarity of trustworthy business partners in music ([35:13]-[36:48]).
    • Quote:
      “Sometimes the lawyer’s down with the label… So you gotta learn as much as you can, pray, and surround yourself with some good people because they’re gonna keep doing it.”
      — Jada [35:13]
    • Quote:
      “I caught two accountants robbing me for millions of dollars… after I caught the fed case, I caught another accountant that we treated like family stealing like $3 million from me.”
      — Ebro Darden [36:32]

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5. Live Premieres: Exclusive New Fetty Wap Music

• At [37:22], Fetty previews powerful new music including a reflective track on his struggles, memories, and rise.
• Notable for vivid street detail and emotional weight. Jada affirms its hit potential:
  • Quote:
    “You might want to make this the next single, whatever you play on here. Because it’s gonna get duct taped to a rocket ship. It’s outta here.”
    — Jada [37:33]
• Another track previewed is romantic, melodic—classic Fetty Wap sound by popular acclaim ([42:16]-[44:42]).
  • Quote:
    “Coming out Friday, March 27th… We gotta help him go back to the moon… help him put that 100 million back in the bank account.”
    — Jada [44:40]

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6. The Ongoing Challenge: Parole & Next Steps

• Fetty is still on parole for five more years ([47:43]) and faces travel restrictions but is optimistic about resuming touring as his situation normalizes.

• The hosts trade stories about navigating parole/probation as public figures and encourage Fetty to stay patient and focused ([47:08]-[50:54]).

  • Quote:
    “Once they see how he moving, they gonna let him move and he gonna get…”
    — Jada [47:47]

• Fetty confirms he's still deeply connected to Patterson, NJ, and ready for his next chapter ([51:00]-[51:33]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Just doing too much with people. Like the saying, go. Like I kept pouring out an empty cup… At a certain point, it was like, you know what? Like, I’m doing more than I can handle by myself.” — Fetty Wap [07:57]
• “You have four hits. You’re a generational artist, there’s people grew up and started rapping, just singing and rapping because of you. There’s people who looked up to you.” — Ebro Darden [10:27]
• “Jail definitely made me realize… everything I was doing wrong about myself, for the family, for the kids… it just made me realize, you know what? This time when you come home... you owe them that time back.” — Fetty Wap [17:16]
• “Those guys, they no good. They never gonna turn around and be good. They’re never gonna be loyal.” — Ebro Darden [19:13]
• “It’s a little mixture of both… just a more mature version of me, that’s all.” — Fetty Wap [23:34]
• "The faster we know we gettin’ done wrong, the faster you could get out of that situation." — Jada [34:38]
• “You might want to make this the next single, whatever you play on here. Because it’s gonna get duct taped to a rocket ship. It’s outta here.” — Jada [37:33]

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Key Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Topic | |--------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:40–06:22 | Fetty’s homecoming and immediate hustle | | 07:57 | Fetty on doing too much alone and downfall | | 10:27–12:42 | Life changes: adjusting financially in the industry | | 13:44–15:29 | Adapting to real jail as a celebrity; being accepted in the system | | 17:16–18:09 | Self-reflection and renewed focus on family | | 19:42–20:33 | Finding creativity in solitary confinement | | 22:27–23:44 | Meaning of ‘Zavier’ and personal transformation | | 31:44–35:32 | Industry lessons: contracts, trust, and management pitfalls | | 37:22–44:42 | Exclusive premieres of new tracks & reactions | | 47:43 | Fetty’s parole, touring challenges, staying patient | | 51:00–51:33 | Return to Patterson, NJ; rooting for Fetty’s continued rise |

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Episode Tone

The atmosphere is candid, raw, sometimes playful but always rooted in brotherly encouragement and unfiltered reality. Fetty is open about his failures and hopes; Joe and Jada are wild in their anecdotes but always steer the conversation back to wisdom, growth, and the will to survive and thrive—even after losing it all.

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For New Listeners

If you missed the episode, you’ll walk away understanding:

• The real cost of fame and the importance of support systems in hip-hop.
• How jail can be both punishment and opportunity for personal growth.
• Fetty Wap’s mindset as he reenters music, learns new lessons, and drops ‘Zavier’.
• The dangerous pitfalls in the music business—and why knowledge and trusted allies are crucial.
• The sound and emotion behind Fetty's new songs: maturity, pain, hope, and a return to the top.

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Transcript

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[Fetty Wap]

time we had Kane bro had invited me to his hood. We came out there to Yonkers like and like everybody looking at me crazy because I went to the Chinese store.

[Ebro Darden]

Like I've been there like hosting four chicken wing Fresh.

[Fetty Wap]

You feel me? But it's just like, you know, certain people got this, got this, this aspect of how they view me because they hear the songs but they don't know where I'm from.

[Jada]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

What up y'? All? This is Joe Crack the dawn.

[Jada]

It's your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic, crushing, pun intended. When you think of today's guest, you think of a billboard Russia. You think of melodies. You think of Patterson, New Jersey. You think of even though we sponsored by 18001738 owes this man Robin jeans they oldest man. You think of several sold out key words sold out stadiums and arenas. You think of somebody that when you usually when you, when you come out and have such an impact, it's hard to hit another one out the park like my brother Crackers. You think of this guy, he's constantly smacking them out the park. You think of a great father. Think of somebody that was able to overcome adversity. You think of somebody that's able to about to do it again. You know what I mean? Being on top is always beautiful. Being at the top of the mountain. When you're able to fall off and get back to the top of the mountain, you're a special individual. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother Fetty.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow,

[Fetty Wap]

There's though man.

[Jada]

Welcome to the Joe and Jada show. My brother. What's good?

[Fetty Wap]

I'm easy on him man. Easy style.

[Ebro Darden]

You already know, man.

[Jada]

No doubt. I seen you in there working out, getting your mind right, seeing you. Come home. He actually had a. A different kind of come home like him. I put him and Max B in the top.

[Ebro Darden]

Come home.

[Jada]

Max B came.

[Ebro Darden]

French waited for him. I don't know how much of a pause it is. It sound like something. Come on,

[Jada]

come on.

[Joe Crack]

Come home.

[Ebro Darden]

Ain't no home. He had one of the best come homes. Yo, my man, that's why that's not a horse.

[Jada]

Cause your mother and my mother said it over 40 billion times.

[Ebro Darden]

Come on. I can never be a partner, okay?

[Jada]

But his release. We go get our Harvard jargon up. His release from incarceration was one of the best and different and amazing that we seen, like, Max B. Where he actually went to see the lane. He went directly to the bag. Let me out. Let me go talk to these people to see how we gonna get back to the bread, you know what I mean?

[Ebro Darden]

Man, let me. Let me ask you something, man. So you go to jail, right? I don't know what you want me to say.

[Jada]

Nothing. My hands was tight.

[Ebro Darden]

What happens with Fetty Bond, who has four number one hits? I'm not talking about urban. I'm talking about number one. Out the park. Cyndi Lauper, Fetty Wap. Right? Four in a row, right? In your worst day. In a crackhead day. I used to tell Remy this all the time. So you're Remy and I crackhead. They will get 5,000 a piece to perform forever. We do four, we make 20,000. You and your worst day for four number ones. In your worst. In the crackhead day will be 20,000. The show. You got four. Four number ones. You do four or five of them a month, that's $100,000. That's a principal salary of a year.

[Jada]

This is in the worst. In his worst.

[Ebro Darden]

No, this is crackhead.

[Jada]

Yeah, crackhead.

[Ebro Darden]

I could not understand for the life of me, how do you get into this trouble? Could you break that down? Us? Why did that happen? What. What put you in that position?

[Fetty Wap]

I mean. I mean, it's real simple, though. Like, it's simple as far as, like, how it happened and how I got to that point. Just doing too much with people. Like the saying, go. Like I kept pouring out an empty cup. You know what I'm saying? Even though I kept filling the cup back up, it kept running empty until I could not fill a cup up no more. You know what I'm saying? At a certain point, it was like, you know what? Like, I'm doing more than I Can handle by myself. Feel me? Like, I had to fire the management. I had to. I was just doing everything by myself, you know what I'm saying? Like, when it was coming, like the book shows, like, I remember a few times people was reaching out to me through the dm, like, yo, we've been hitting up your manager. I don't have a manager. You know what I mean? And I'm like, yeah, talk to me directly. So I got all these people calling me. I'm not knowing how to handle all this by myself. And I'm really booking every show by myself. So now I'm trying to figure out how to do it. I gotta figure out how to do, like, the W9s and all this type of thing like that.

[Joe Crack]

And I don't know nothing.

[Fetty Wap]

I'm like, no is too much for me. So it's like the only thing I know how to do other than music was hustle. So I'm like, I still gotta feed the family. I still gotta feed the kids. And it was like, instead of me moving away from the pride and just asking for help, you know, I'm like, I'm gonna just do it by myself, like I've been doing. So when it came down to it, you know, certain things happened. Certain people got caught up, my name got brought up. And this what happened.

[Ebro Darden]

That's always gonna happen in hip hop. People don't understand. Like, I try to tell them all the time, you in a club, look, I just told you about me getting arrested, that I didn't even finish that story with Remy with. I got arrested for no reason. They beat this guy up, they locked me up. I think, yo, Fat Joe robbed him this and this and that. Shit happened to me about 10 times. So they kept. They was coming up to me, I'm rich. And they were saying, yeah, you robbed them for the skinniest chain never created some. I'm like, yo, bro, this shit don't even make sense. You coming to my album release signing to lock me up, talking about I stuck a guy up for a $300 chain. All right? So the point is, used to a lifestyle, and you out there, you making a bunch of money, but you spending a bunch of money. And it got overwhelming to the point of where you was, like, you was used to that money. So you said, yo, let me go hustle and get that type of money right there, right? So now, the new Fetty Wap that came home, you know, you gotta adjust.

[Fetty Wap]

That's a fact.

[Ebro Darden]

So there's some times where we doing Great. Where the family? I tell the wife, yo, go get the Birkin. Go get the this, go get the that. Then there's time she gotta sip through a straw. And instead of noble, you gotta go to the diner. I've had those times in my life where I gotta adjust to say, all right, shit is slow right now. Let's start eating some diner food. Ty. Shit, get back up. These are like the adjustments you gotta make throughout your career. Because in this career shit, it's not guaranteed, but there is something guaranteed. You have four hits. Your generational artists, there's people grew up and started rapping, just singing and rapping because of you. There's people who looked up to you. I feel like you birthed the whole genre of music. I want you to know, yo, it ain't so bad. 20,000 a show or something like that. If you get four of them a month, five of them a month. I've been there before. You know, when I got caught with taxes, they took all my money, millions of dollars. And was playing with the same guys who spam me 50,000 to show. They're like, yo, how many times you think people want to hear lean back? I 12,000. Huh? Romania, 12,000. Bangladesh. Yo, we got 12. Same guy been paying me 50,000 for 18 years. They play with you like that. But I had to say, all right, until I get another one, it ring off crazy. And I get back my. And I got them all back. So when all the Way up came out. Oh, God, I wouldn't even take they show. Yo, Joe, we want to book the show. I'm like, you, sir, cannot book the show unless. Guess what, guys, I'm charging a hundred thousand. You pay 175 to 200 on purpose. No, that's not fair, Joe. That's what it is for you. You played with me. You was booking me for 12,000 in the slums of Shaolin. You know, they played with me. I got them all back, thank to God. But you have to realize that, you know, I guess you did. How many. How many years you did?

[Fetty Wap]

4.

[Ebro Darden]

And I seen you was in real jail. Wasn't a fake jail. Yeah, but he was in real jail. There's guys who go to fake jails. Guys like this. Like, what are y' all talking about? This. My man Boosie just pulled out a PC shit or something like this. Guys, fake jails.

[Jada]

Like, I don't mean they was all, jails is real. Whenever you go inside, the jail is on you. I don't know if it's.

[Ebro Darden]

I'VE seen you in real.

[Jada]

Tyler Perry's.

[Ebro Darden]

Nice, guys.

[Jada]

Jail is real, dog.

[Ebro Darden]

I know guys.

[Jada]

Wherever you go, they call me from

[Ebro Darden]

jail with the cell phone with champagne.

[Jada]

Oh, you talking about where Jacob the Jeweler went?

[Ebro Darden]

There's like, that Martha Stewart.

[Jada]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

You wasn't in that. You was in jail. And people don't realize how difficult it is to go in there as a rap star. What are you feeling when you walking in them gates?

[Fetty Wap]

I mean, you know, I started off in Brooklyn. I was in mdc, so I was.

[Ebro Darden]

So you started your time there? You checked in mdc?

[Fetty Wap]

Nah, I ain't checking nowhere.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I ain't saying, like, you gave.

[Jada]

Tell them bop.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying? Oh, so they locked you up and then you was there and you was fighting your case out of.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, okay. Me, I had to get myself in, like, okay, come do your time.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, they came.

[Ebro Darden]

You. They came and got you. So you stuck there. Yeah, right. You got a Chapo in there. You was in there when the Chapo was in there?

[Fetty Wap]

Nah, Chapo was in. Chapo was in. They had him, like, in a special thing.

[Ebro Darden]

Guantanamo Bay.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, I was in 43. I was in 43. 29 Chapo. I was in the main. I was in gym.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, that's where you supposed to be, man. Fuck all that. You'd have made the PC. Listen, PC list, man. You'll get exposed, you know, what was that like adjusting, you know, what was that like, you know, going to jail and adjusting and you offend. You walk into the new jail. Yo, Fetty Wap, what's up? This, this, that.

[Fetty Wap]

Like, the Fed's a little bit different, so you kind of, like. You kind of gravitate to your hood, like, so you, like, you know, whatever. Whatever you think.

[Jada]

Jersey car.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, like, once people seen, like, oh, no, he just a regular, like, bro from the hood.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, he one of us.

[Fetty Wap]

Like, you know what I mean? Like, I ain't going there on some, like, yo, I'm. This, this me.

[Ebro Darden]

Whoa, whoa.

[Fetty Wap]

I'm ill. All right, who got what for sale? Let me get that, Let me get this. Let me get that. You got. How much you got in your luck? Let me get that. You need something on your compensary list. I'm. Put some money over there. Send me your cash app. Like, I just went in there moving around. Yeah, I mean, like, I just. You just. You ain't got no choice but to adapt to it.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Fetty Wap]

Either that or just go to PC.

[Jada]

I seen you on the heavy workout, too.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, I was. I was doing my thing.

[Ebro Darden]

You came home probably, boy, you had that. Just came home.

[Fetty Wap]

I was mad little when I went in.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah. I was mad little when I went in.

[Guest Rapper/Artist]

But you was in there.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, I told him outside, I said, yo, some guys go in there, they get fat. Yeah, how do you go to jail and get fat when everybody works out all day?

[Fetty Wap]

Some people ain't got that motivation.

[Jada]

Fat in the world. Is this.

[Ebro Darden]

Is it not true?

[Fetty Wap]

It's not true. No, not really.

[Ebro Darden]

It's not true. Because when you wake up in jail, the whole jail's working out. Like, there's no way to avoid it. Hey, basketball's here. Racist here. Like, bro, for you to sit there for four years just eating your face out, you know, like, you gotta be a lazy motherfucker.

[Fetty Wap]

I mean, but some people can't come out. They sell, though. You know, you got the head of the Muslim father. He won't allow you to do nothing in the jail, though. Like, you can't get no money. You can't move around. If you want to take your shahada, you want to come over here, sit in your cell, they can't go nowhere. So you know what I mean? Cause you really. You did this for protection. You ain't did this because you believe in Allah. You know what I'm saying? It be like that. It be a lot of them in there. So, like, it'll be them type of. That can't come out. They said, we're gonna protect you.

[Ebro Darden]

Keep reading and like that.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, you feel me? Like, they gotta do, like, the cleaning. They be cleaning, like, right down the table.

[Ebro Darden]

I had Hong Kong Mongolia wipe my. While I was gone. Big yo, wipe this down. I want that spotless, man.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, but they.

[Ebro Darden]

They.

[Fetty Wap]

I mean, but you know, they stand. They still stand on business, though. Like, as far as, like, the. The real right ones. Like, they still stand. They. Not just because I say that. Cause, you know, some people that's on the outside that never been to jail might have something to say about that comment.

[Jada]

I don't understand.

[Fetty Wap]

You know what I'm saying? Like, jail definitely made me realize, like, you know what I'm saying? Everything I was doing, like, everything I was doing wrong about myself, for the family, for the kids, you know what I mean? Like, I got a chance to sit back and reflect on everything I was doing. Like, I'm going in there thinking, like, damn, I just spent this money on. I remember I bought bro this. I bought bro this. I bought bro this. And I'm like, I'm like, I only did this for my daughter. I only did this for my son. Only birthdays or whenever I was with him. It was never just, I'm outside, let me just buy them, Know what I mean? Like, no ignorant shit like that. You feel me? Like that I was doing when I was younger. And now it's like. It just made me realize, like, you know what? Like this time when you come home, you know what I mean? You owe them that time back. I mean, you owe them that time back the same way you as spurging on the guys and everybody robbing Jane Doe. Like he said all that type of shit. I mean, let's. Let's take the babies, let's go. Let's go get some Chanel purses for the girls. My daughters.

[Ebro Darden]

Did a lot of guys disappoint you when you went and did your time and you like that? You thought they would write you a letter or something like that?

[Fetty Wap]

Of course they did.

[Ebro Darden]

I had one of my guys, one of the most realest guys in the world, he catch a murder case. All these guys he used to think he was cool with, none of them showed up to court. None of them came around. Nobody visited him. Nobody this and this and that. By miracle of God, he beat the murder case. He came out, he's hanging out with all these dudes. I'm like, yo, my man, you're lying to yourself. They already proved to you. God put you in a position so they could prove to you if they real family, if they real friends or not. What my man said. Who was that? Was that George Bush? Fooled me once, huh? Shame on me. Fool me twice, you know? In my life, I learned to not forgive those guys. It took me three times. I went rich, broke, rich, broke, rich. Till I finally saved.

[Jada]

That was four.

[Ebro Darden]

That was four. No, that was three. But it took me a long time to. You just learn from my experience. Those guys, they know good. They never gonna turn around and be good. They're never gonna be loyal. You wasted your time.

[Fetty Wap]

That's a fact.

[Jada]

Now get out. New music. How was it in there? Was you able to think of songs? Was you able to think of shit? Cause everybody I know be like, I can't think of nothing. I didn't. My mind wasn't even on music while I was in.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, I was in the hole. I was in the shoe for six and a half months. I was in the shoe for six and a half months. And that's when everything started coming to me. Like, that's when I really had that sit back time, like, all right, that's really around the time where it's crazy because my first two years in, I was so, like, how I could put this? Like, I was so much on go time with the guys. I wasn't even, like, thinking about music. Like, I'm. When five o' clock come, once you hear that door unlock, tie your boots. Like, it's none of that. Like, you don't have that luxury to just like I said, unless you go to a different section of the jail. You feel me? Like, so once you start coming down the levels, like, it was like, all right, whatever. And then like, as soon as I got to, like, a good jail, like, where I was, where I could chill with the champagne and all that like that, like, they locked me right back.

[Ebro Darden]

I only.

[Fetty Wap]

I ain't even make it there 20 days.

[Ebro Darden]

That's when they. That's when they sent you home?

[Fetty Wap]

Nah, they sent me to the shoe.

[Jada]

I sent them back up. Yeah.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah. So I went to. I got to, like, a camp. I got there, like, I was there for 20 days.

[Ebro Darden]

They.

[Fetty Wap]

They try to say I escape the camp for me. So I beat it, though. So.

[Jada]

Yeah, I beat it funny.

[Fetty Wap]

No, but they still set me in there.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, all right, look, you got.

[Fetty Wap]

You got too much influence. You got too, like, you know, I mean, like, I hate that. Yeah. And that's how they. That's how they get us. Like, that's how especially, like, us. That's how they get us.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, oh, yeah, he could do this. Whatever. They hating on you and they setting examples on you. Yeah. Just because of who your name is and it ain't you as a person. They don't necessarily mean that you're like that. But they. They play that game with everybody. Like, Remy, she was in parole, right? On tv with a family, number one song in America. This. They would not let her go do a show. And these bum ass parole officers just like, nah, no, this. And she's on. Like, you see, she's trying to change her life. She's trying to be a boss. She's trying to. This. She's on a TV show. This. That they fronted on her for. Like, I think. What was it? She had like, three years of parole. I went with her when they had an ankle bracelet on her three years later. Like, you know, it was incredible, bro, but they were just abusing the power. So you came home. Is it a new style Fetty Wap, or is it the classical Fetty Wap?

[Jada]

You finished talking about jail? Cause I'm gonna Start asking about the album.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Jada]

You just want to know about the rapsy.

[Ebro Darden]

That 1800 Jadakiss, he talking about the news to eat his own bottle. 1800.

[Jada]

How you pronounce it? Xavier.

[Fetty Wap]

Xavier.

[Ebro Darden]

Xavier. Xavier.

[Fetty Wap]

No, Xavier. Like Xavier, but just take the X out and put it.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, Petty Bump. What was that? How you come up with that name?

[Fetty Wap]

Xavier?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, Xavier.

[Fetty Wap]

So that's like. That's like my alter ego. So, like, when I started doing music before, like, I. I used to do this thing, like, Zubi, like, a lot of my oldest songs. Like, and it really came from, like, Gucci used to be on, like, Gucci man lafleur. So I'm like, I can't say Fetty Wap Lafleur.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, I was like.

[Fetty Wap]

I used to be like, Zoover. Like, everybody called me Zoo. I mean, so it's like, just put it together. So it's like, at one point, I was changing my name anyway, so that was my name, Zavir.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, I get it.

[Fetty Wap]

See what I'm saying?

[Jada]

That's fine.

[Ebro Darden]

I get it. But the sound sound right.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm curious. What, are you doing some new type shit or you doing Fetty Wild?

[Fetty Wap]

It's a little mixture of both, you know, it's just a more mature version of me, that's all. Like, a more mature version. Like, I'm still me. Just. Just, you know, I got a few. I got a few different bops in there. You know what I'm saying?

[Ebro Darden]

Like, let me tell you something. I tell you in your face, man. I always been a fan of you. I've always thought you was a great person. I know you gonna come with a hit record. And if you don't, you talking to a guy been around 30 something years. You got four number ones. You get yourself a book. No, you get. All right, I'm just telling you the truth. What I'm saying is facts.

[Fetty Wap]

No, I respect that, though.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying? You get your money. How it come? Either you gonna make a ton of money, you know, we all looking for the hit record to make a ton of money. Or we take that slow, good money, which is better than a lot. 99% of Americas.

[Fetty Wap]

No, I gotta. I got a good team behind me now. Like, I got a great scene behind me.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I see you got about 76 people with you over here. You even got white people in the entourage.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, I'm doing, like, a documentary.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah, I'm doing a documentary. Tell me. So what's the documentary called? Where's it coming out. I don't know yet.

[Jada]

It's getting that footage.

[Fetty Wap]

So it's just like, no, I'm just taking this crowd. I'm taking my craft serious this time. I mean, like, I already. I did what I did outside of it. I mean, nobody can't take that from me. I did my time. I stood on my tent. Nobody can't take that from me. So it's like, all right, now do something for Fetty. Like, I mean, like the same way I was confident and going to. Going to grab the. I mean, and hitting the kitchen and going outside, I had that confidence level. Like this what I do. Like now, I mean, like, I know I can make this. I got that same confidence with the music, man. You feel me? So that's how I'm on.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know how crazy that was. I don't think you even understand how crazy that was.

[Fetty Wap]

Nah, I didn't.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not, yo.

[Fetty Wap]

Cause I don't look at myself how everybody else look at me. Feel me. That's always been my problem. Like, me as a person. Like, I remember one time we had. Kane bro had invited me to his hood for me. We came out there to Yonkers, like, and like, everybody looking at me crazy. Cause I went to the Chinese store.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, I've been there like four chicken wing fresh.

[Fetty Wap]

You feel me? But it's just like, you know, certain people got this. Got this aspect of how they view me because they hear the songs, but they don't know where I'm from.

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[Ebro Darden]

but I'm glad you back and you got a good team. Let me tell you something. I've invested millions in artists me. So I've been in the other guys and when the artist tells me y', all I don't want to be here, I say not a problem. You sure you don't want to Be with us. Not a problem. All right, here you go. I've had several artists I spent millions of dollars on that turned around was like, yo, I don't think this working out. You sure you don't think this work? All right. Ain't working out. I'mma go do whatever. Oh, damn. I don't think none of them ever popped off when they left. But the point is, I never believed in holding people against their will or because I signed a talented person. Hey, you got to take some credit because you signed them, right? But, you know, it's crazy. I. I see it all the time. I see it with. I see men. Men handling female artists that they signed up to. Yo, I don't care. Yo, I. Son, it's like, yo, all right, you gave her. You know, you gave her a shot. She blew up. You made millions. She don't want to be here. Let's move on, work out some shit and keep it pushing. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that's something that's been ugly in the hip hop game. Somebody feel like they signed you, man, he gonna be a guy who signed you. Never seen you again.

[Fetty Wap]

That's a fact.

[Ebro Darden]

And then you blow, and they like, yo, that's it happened. Somebody wrote a hit hook for me, right? Hit hook. I thought I was like, damn, this thing about to be rich, right? Cause I'm giving up the right publishing to him and everything. Yo, you wrote. Don't worry. This, this, this. It's about a hundred guys came up to me like, yo, you know, I own the guy. You know, I own the guy. You know, I gave him ten grand while he was drunk in the gambling spot. I own him. I. This, this, this. I'm like, yo, he got nothing.

[Fetty Wap]

That's crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

He's supposed to make millions of dollars. I swear to you. They kept coming up to me. Like, I said, yo, I worked with him.

[Jada]

I know.

[Ebro Darden]

He told me.

[Jada]

I happened to notice when I had

[Ebro Darden]

to say, I'm giving him the publishing.

[Jada]

I don't have to say, yo, you looking. I know, I noticed. I know. And I'm not telling you.

[Ebro Darden]

Hey, y. But it's the craziest shit I ever seen in my. Now I'm happy for the guy because guy works hard. He's a great guy. I'm like, all right, this guy gonna be caked up. They came out the woodworks, yo, I own them. Yo, I. Octopus hands. Octopus hands. And I'm like, you know. And so what's so important is for artists out there should not be in the position that most people be in.

[Jada]

What it is that you're not saying is we all. That's three up here. Whoever's back there, that's artists, you gotta learn. We don't. We didn't come in this learning. So the faster we know we getting done wrong, the faster you could get out of that situation. But it's to learn from there and then to educate those that's coming up. Because it's going to keep happening as long as you don't have the knowledge. They looking for talented.

[Ebro Darden]

Most important you need to do is get a lawyer.

[Jada]

Stupid even. Sometimes the lawyers down with the label. Then you get caught in the triple cross. So you gotta. You gotta learn as much as you can. Pray and surround yourself with some good people because they're gonna keep doing it. That's the up part. It's never gonna stop.

[Fetty Wap]

That's their job. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And then that's fucked up. You know what I mean, man? I had a lawyer I really trust. I was with him for about 10, 15 years. He introduced me to the guy who lined me up for the. For the tax case. I never trusted him again. I got rid of him. I said, yo, this guy lined me up. I don't know if he got caught up in some shit and lined me up with the accountant who I never seen again in my life, who didn't pay my bills, robbed me and I went to the feds because of him, man. So I gotta agree with Kiss when he says sometimes you can't even trust your own lawyer. You know, some of these guys be connected. It's the craziest shit. Trust is a hard thing in life. It's crazy because I still trust me. I'm dumb enough to trust.

[Fetty Wap]

I can't do that. I don't got it in me to do that.

[Ebro Darden]

I caught two accountants robbing me for millions of dollars. After I caught the fed case, I caught another accountant that we treated like family stealing like $3 million from me. Like. Like this is legendary. Like this.

[Jada]

What's the. How many accounts get killed a year?

[Ebro Darden]

How about they don't even go to jail, bro? That's why you can't even sue them. You can't even is in a couple counting funerals.

[Jada]

Let it calm down in a.

[Ebro Darden]

Calm down.

[Jada]

A couple cowards.

[Ebro Darden]

That's a Kiss ass. Yeah. Kiss is crazy. But I ain't lying. It's. It's like a loophole with these accountants. How they get away with this shit. You know what I'm saying? But you Got a team, you on the go. We got some new music. Let's hear that shit.

[Jada]

Single White Roses or this something else?

[Fetty Wap]

This something else right here.

[Jada]

No doubt. We get a special Joe and Jada, you know what I mean? That's Javier.

[Fetty Wap]

You already know.

[Jada]

We get something special. Let's hear it.

[Ebro Darden]

Fetty. What?

[Jada]

You might want to make this the next single, whatever you play on here. Because it's gonna get duct taped to a rocket ship. It's out of here.

[Ebro Darden]

Just that. Viral mania.

[Joe Crack]

All right. Okay. It's time for me to go I won't let him play me if I pop off why would he show up? I don't think he crazy See I bought a knife and relapse I might cook up a baby he was pushing bags up but now he push up daisies I remember I was counting up a million my Mercedes I remember having dreams about a million a Mercedes I remember I was waiting for a plug like a blessing I remember them Corner days on 12th and 22nd I remember LB and baby beans Fatty cash in the trap I remember it was Perry on that gave me my first strap I remember me and Quadri when Slick P got sad I remember singing trip bro, big bro about to come back I remember them dark days when didn't even notice me I remember when I popped out new whip Everybody noticed me I remember funny faces when they found out what I was singing I remember feeling like Ace that day he was walked out the cleaners I remember being young as hell feeling so insecure I remember I was looking in the mirror Then I started seeing more I remember Montana bucks, dice and fatty cash for the summer I remember the day I fell in love it was with King I remember choosing loyalty over royalty I can prove it I remember I ain't never made none of my look foolish I remember I ain't never letting none of my feel through useless I remember that it's only me was the only one looking stupid I remember that first million dollar check had it in my hand I remember that the one I gave it to we probably never speak again and I remember about a defamation case I ain't never even know about I remember if you let me how you say why you ain't throw it out? I remember feeling xed out Getting left out by the rich I remember feeling drained out I ain't have nothing left I remember remember grabbing 30 bricks and I put that on my set I remember feeling better now that I got

[Ebro Darden]

it on my chest I'm a decade

[Guest Rapper/Artist]

in, you know my name no limit ain't change I was playing with them jeans Right before my fame load up and bang I stayed solid was locked in with gang I bought a brick for I bought me a chain there's so many hits how the I'm still saying let's take a trip down memory lane I remember G phase o dial in my bed I couldn't stop crying Remember my mama ain't let me outside but I snuck right back out on the nine remember 14 bought my first iron old ass 38 ain't even shine ain't give a though cause it was mine waiting on the get out of line Remember my first time going to slide yeah I was scared but I had to try When I let off I closed my eyes, open them shot out four more times and I remember to ride back Flaming the weed up trying to relax when I got rich start bad straps now I can't remember how many I yeah all our rap is facts our little pride pulling up price act flying in the track Me, Molly and Max remember one something like 15 hats remember we bought that lack broski had to wrap that all black Cause we was sliding and sliding and sliding and sliding and spot something pop out the back Remember I was having a guilt trip like well I gotta solve everybody problems I still ain't healed act like I ain't grow up Po rest running all in my building White folks gave the whole hood hope Remember them almost killed them streets up that's high that is lift up the gangster since a kid Remember Gil first took his beard Remember I only goes to

[Daniel Cormier]

see took it on drills to them

[Guest Rapper/Artist]

here I remember bagging up pounds of meat Remember I ran up my first M remember I was up like 3 years ago now look at me I'm him Remember I was up like 2 years ago bought a R truck I'm tr she happen fast running 20 cash I'm trying to do it again now it's fast Now I show my ass you don't know my past I made the.

[Ebro Darden]

I remember fetty watt. That sound like Fetty Watt to me. It's that voice we know on that radio.

[Jada]

I was about to say that was crazy.

[Fetty Wap]

That's like the outro.

[Ebro Darden]

Sound like Fetty Bop to me. You know that voice?

[Joe Crack]

All right. Can you tell me what is new? Baby I've been gone for a while But I came right back for you hey and baby I'm on side with you and I'm don't see no one but you and you're so sexy Baby. I've Been feeling your body is crazy I really been needing my baby Let me serving it baby really be needing my my baby I've been feeling your body is crazy hey. Believe in needing my baby Let me surfing it baby you wavy Only one I want is you only want is true Only one I'm run into There would be no other one but you

[Ebro Darden]

only want to want is you Only one I want baby Only one I'm

[Joe Crack]

running hey there one but you hey cuz I been wanting to wondering Girl can you tell me what is new? Baby, I've been going for a while But I came right back for you hey, hey and baby I'm outside with you and I'm drunk right now I don't see no one but you hey. And you're so sexy, baby oh. Or is that one L they could do?

[Ebro Darden]

Hey.

[Joe Crack]

And keep it real, baby. Oh yeah, baby.

[Ebro Darden]

This a appreciate that. That it's a. That's a vibe right now.

[Fetty Wap]

Coming out Friday, March 27th.

[Jada]

March 27th, all platforms. Zavi. Yeah. We gotta help him go back to the moon. I mean, help them put. Help them put that 100 million back in the bank account.

[Ebro Darden]

How you doing that Fetty bot, man? I believe in you, man. I know you got some more hits in there.

[Fetty Wap]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ebro Darden]

You know you got them voices, right? Kids grew up listening to your voice on the radio all day, every 10 seconds. So if you put one out, it's going. I always say that about Nelly. I say about 50 cent. There's certain big artists. And believe it or not, Fetty, you're on that level, is what I'm trying to tell you. When you ask for number one, I don't know if they broke down to you for number one with Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake and all that. You got the number ones on that. These guys be fronting like they got a hot record. They got. This shit is just, you know, wpgi.

[Fetty Wap]

I get what you're saying.

[Ebro Darden]

They. Your shit is monstrous. Right?

[Jada]

Disrespect the WPGIs.

[Ebro Darden]

We don't even know who the is. WPG. I'm. Yo Sound like dc.

[Jada]

That ain't no.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not dissing DC Close to them.

[Jada]

Call them.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, guys, I don't mean nothing. I don't mean none of that. What I'm saying is I'm just apologizing

[Jada]

before they cancel the stupid. Because you didn't know Cincinnati radio station.

[Ebro Darden]

WKRP and Cincinnati. My point is, I no offense to anybody, you know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

That's All I want to do is keep it clean.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, your man, you know, they know your voice. You play prime time.

[Jada]

He's back, man. Save the save.

[Ebro Darden]

That last song was incredible. Stay focused and put it out. You're gonna get it. You won't get it back.

[Jada]

200 mil back going forward. 200 mil back in the account. Then we gonna get you back on the couch, and you're gonna take a shot.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, no. He said he tired of that. He ain't taking.

[Jada]

We helped him get the 200 mil. I think you're gonna about to go back to the billboards again. To the.

[Fetty Wap]

No, I appreciate that.

[Jada]

Don't forget about me. My dog's over there, man.

[Fetty Wap]

Everything, man.

[Jada]

Remember, I said it here first.

[Ebro Darden]

Nah, he definitely gonna step to you when you got that 200 like y'. All. Kiss put you in game. Kiss put you on, but. Yeah. Any plans for touring with this album?

[Fetty Wap]

I mean, right now, you know, I'm still on. Still on.

[Ebro Darden]

So you on that Remy Ma where they don't want to let you go?

[Jada]

No, but once they see. Once they. Once the.

[Ebro Darden]

They got Instagram. They know you with the label. They know you.

[Jada]

The bracelet's coming off.

[Ebro Darden]

Right back to the bracelet. How much time you got on papers?

[Fetty Wap]

Five. Five years.

[Ebro Darden]

Five more. Yeah.

[Jada]

Supervisor. You know what it is. Once he. Once they see how he moving, they gonna let him move and he gonna get.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't get. I don't really drink. Even though Sorisaram is the best rum on the planet Earth, 1500 is the best tequila. Right? They came to my house, piss test me three days in a row. Just. They won't now.

[Jada]

So they switched the rules of parole.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fetty Wap]

That's only in the state.

[Ebro Darden]

Hell, no.

[Jada]

Only in the state. In the state. But it's gonna get better.

[Ebro Darden]

Let sniff heroin on that. And letting them grow, man. Hell yeah. Big getting high, you better not have. They give him a chance.

[Jada]

Your relationship with parole right now, you better never need parole.

[Ebro Darden]

I'll tell you something. I'm never gonna need parole.

[Jada]

Say never.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm never gonna need parole.

[Jada]

Never say never.

[Ebro Darden]

Never gonna need parole. You know why I don't get high? I don't got nothing to do with it. I got everything to do with it.

[Jada]

Ernie Madoff ain't get high.

[Ebro Darden]

Three piss tests, clean the guy tells me. This guy was just randomly popping up in my house and walking through my house. By the way, I don't know if you know your house. It's not your house. They just violate you walking in my like, like, you know. Oh, nice painting.

[Jada]

This was on parole. I had a day party in Long Island City. They called him. They heard this blasted. He had. He had the Dukes that he had to run home.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, okay.

[Jada]

And they called him and told him, yo, bring all your. To the halfway house. You gotta go come in.

[Ebro Darden]

My point is, don't desperate roll. I sit down. I sit down. She looked like a nice lady, and I'm pretty. Like, I'm a great negotiator on all levels. I'm up in there saying this, how you doing? You know, it's been like six months. You realize I don't get high, I don't drink, Paying my bills and paying my. This, this, that. I might be your best client. I'm telling you, like, you know, I'm like, absolutely not a. I'm not crossing in green. I'm not driving without. Like, I'm best guy. You got nothing. Man, this woman fucked with me so much, man. Oh, man, I just ain't understanding. I remember it was the last day, I'm in Germany, and I called the woman and I'm like, yeah, miss, you know, the show's going right. She told me, cardigan, you know, I could extend your parole. I said, for what? I've been the nicest guy in the world. I don't do nothing wrong. I don't. This, this that. She told me that on that last day. And that. Which wasn't true. Once you gone, you gone. But these people just with me, man. I'm sorry. You still on parole? He does anything I said has nothing to do with Fetty Wap.

[Jada]

He tried help. He tried to get him off.

[Ebro Darden]

Jadakiss is right by my side. My business partner, he agrees with.

[Jada]

I want to get him off parole. 200 mil back in the account, and everything is love.

[Ebro Darden]

I like. We got that. Patterson, New Jersey. Have you been back? Of course.

[Jada]

What kind of question is that?

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe he's on parole in New York. They don't let him hang out in Jersey.

[Jada]

Back to the hood, man.

[Ebro Darden]

You a Jersey parole. Yeah, man, I just. Yo, Jersey. Nah, nah, nah.

[Jada]

N is crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, I live in Jersey. You know, I love New Jersey. I love New Jersey. I'm just saying. The Gods, huh? This ain't that.

[Jada]

That ain't this cracky, crazy kiss. Make some noise for Fetty.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I like that second track, man. That's a. That's a bar.

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