G Herbo talks 'Lil Herb,' Juice WRLD, Chief Keef & Chicago hood stories

Summary

Podcast Summary: Joe and Jada — G Herbo Talks “Lil Herb”, Juice WRLD, Chief Keef & Chicago Hood Stories

Podcast: Joe and Jada
Episode Date: November 11, 2025
Hosts: Fat Joe, Jadakiss (Joe Budden in transcript)
Guest: G Herbo
Description: In this episode, hip-hop legends Fat Joe and Jadakiss link up with Chicago's own G Herbo (formerly known as Lil Herb) for a no-holds-barred conversation on his career, Chicago’s street life, surviving success, and the real stories behind his newest album and collaborations.

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Main Theme

The episode is a deep-dive into G Herbo’s journey from Chicago’s South Side streets to national hip-hop prominence. The conversation covers the challenges of escaping street life, the emotional toll of loss, financial realities of legit success, fatherhood, community activism, and the sacred ground of trust, family, and loyalty in and out of hip-hop.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Surviving Chicago and the Blessing of Life

• Survival Against the Odds:
  G Herbo opens with gratitude:

  "Just being here alone is a blessing. ...I done got shot at so many times and I’m still here. That is a blessing, bro." — G Herbo [03:40]

• The Relentless Danger:
  They discuss how dangerous hip-hop and Chicago street life can be, with Herbo and Fat Joe swapping stories of being targeted.

  "Hip hop is a very dangerous [job]. Probably the most dangerous, to be honest, for real, for real." — G Herbo [18:51]

2. Fourteen Years In: Longevity, Style, and Staying Fresh

• Career Evolution:

  "How many years you been in the game?"
  "Going on 14 now." — Fat Joe & G Herbo [05:32]

• Fashion as Status and Coping:
  "I probably got a hundred thousand in drip just in the hotel room on the couch, laid out for this." — G Herbo [08:16]
  The group jokes about the addictive nature of high fashion and the pressure to display success.

3. The Business of Hip-Hop: Taxes, Legitimacy, and Money

• The High Cost of Going Legit:

  "I’ve been a real tax-paying artist. I’ve been paying taxes for 10 years now, for real, for real. Million dollar taxes cost some M’s." — G Herbo [16:12]

• Resentment and Misunderstandings from Accountants:
  Fat Joe and G Herbo discuss how people—even their own accountants—don’t see their work as “real,” despite the financial stakes and personal risk.

4. Community, Positivity & Giving Back

• Selling Out in the Hometown:

  "I did my own BDAY bash at the Wind Trust. That was sold out... 19 artists on the bill. Everything smooth. Everything went perfect. ...That’s beautiful. Safe." — G Herbo [19:09]

• Peace in Unity:
  Fat Joe and G Herbo stress the power of positive examples and community work in “dangerous” cities where opportunities for violence and division are high.

5. The Trap of the Streets: Cutting Ties to Survive

• Evolving Beyond Old Ties:

  "It’s hard for dudes to understand. Yo, I have an opportunity, a generational opportunity...Let me go." — Fat Joe [38:54] "There’s no way possible to really have one foot in this industry and one foot in the streets. That shit is insane." — G Herbo [41:13]

• Responsibilities and Difficult Conversations: Both share stories about having to distance themselves from problematic friends/family for survival.

6. Realities of Chicago Street Life

• The Impossible Geography:
  "It’s so hard to walk two blocks [in Chicago]...That shit sound crazy, but it’s for real though." — Fat Joe & G Herbo [41:31]
• Legendary Venues and Violent Memories:
  Stories of dangerous rap shows and near-riots at the Regal Theater:

  "Every gang you ever name was in that...They hate each other, right?...That was the scariest [situation] in the world. It was ugly." — Fat Joe [45:16–47:01]

7. Music & Legacy: The Lil Herb Album

• Collaboration with No ID and Wyclef:
  "No ID...always just like gave his input...So it’s like, yeah, it’s a blessing to even be able to, like, have somebody like that in your corner." — G Herbo [14:58]
  "Wyclef...I’ve been talking to him, like, almost every day since we did this...We ‘bout to work on some whole water shits for sure." — G Herbo [53:40]
• Juice WRLD Feature: Emotional Impact

  "That’s my brother, man. Long live Juice...every time I think about bro, it’d just be like a nostalgic feeling. ...He used to make me rap with him....he was just a different breed." — G Herbo [55:19, 56:10]
  (See [55:12–56:36] for full discussion)

• Raw Pain in the Music: (see Notable Moments section for track lyrics)
• Preview of Standout Tracks:
  “Fallen Soldiers” and “One Chance” — both are played and discussed in full [104:16–113:09], with Herbo’s lyrics emphasizing pain, trauma, loss, and survival.

8. Family, Co-Parenting, and Maturity

• Navigating Peace with Multiple Families:
  Fat Joe marvels at G Herbo’s ability to maintain peaceful relationships with his child’s mother and his wife, when most men face drama:

  "How do you get that kind of relationship? ...It’s the love we got for our children, bro....that shit overpowers everything." — G Herbo [59:19–60:34]

• Putting Kids First:
  "A lot of people just don’t try...in the end, the kid loses. My kid ain’t losing by any means." — G Herbo [60:37]

9. Cycles of Violence, Relationships, and Loyalty

• Women as Fuel for Violence:

  "I feel like 80, 90% of wars...in the street always happen behind a female. Women. 1000%." — G Herbo [66:03]

• Taboo of ‘Friends’ with Ex’s:
  "That gotta be, like, off limits, for real." — G Herbo [69:26]
• Unwritten Rules of the Streets: The group shares stories of betrayal among friends and the aggravating role of jealousy and relationships.

10. Community Initiatives & Focusing on the Youth

• Overton Project & Swervin’ Through Stress:
  "We bought it and just, you know what I’m saying, made it like performing arts...just putting something in the city on the south side where kids could have a safe place." — G Herbo [83:44]

  "...Swervin’ Through Stress...free therapy, suicide hotlines, food drives, food giveaways...me really trying to be a staple in the community and give back." — G Herbo [85:29]

• Cutting Food Stamps = More Crime:

  "When a hungry, you gotta eat, might eat you." — G Herbo [86:34]
  "It’s connected to crime...when you got kids, what do you think is gonna happen?" — Fat Joe [86:34]

11. Moving Out for Safety, Wealth & Perspective

• Escaping the Web of Local Drama:

  "You gotta get up out of here. A dude will force you to hurt him...we can’t live, somebody got to go." — Fat Joe [99:36–101:06]

• The “Middle” Is Deadly in Chicago:

  "If you play the middle, that’s the most dangerous thing to play in Chicago." — G Herbo [90:46]

• Lessons from Chief Keef, Lil Durk, and Others:

  "I see Sosa got out of there. I see you got out of there. Even Dirk got out of there. ...You got to get out of there." — Joe Budden [91:21–91:31]

• Violence in Other Places (Puerto Rico):
  G Herbo and Fat Joe describe the level of violence in Puerto Rico, comparing it to Chicago and underlining the universal danger for high-profile artists.

  "In Puerto Rico...I probably had like 600 guns outside. Never seen nothing like that in my life." — G Herbo [96:07]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Opening Tribute to Survival

• "Just being here alone is a blessing...I done got shot at so many times and I’m still here. That is a blessing, bro."
  — G Herbo [03:40]

On Walking Away from Street Life

• "There’s no way possible to really have one foot in this industry and one foot in the streets. That shit is insane."
  — G Herbo [41:13]

On Fatherhood and Family Peacemaking

• "It’s the love we got for our children...that shit overpowers everything, bro. ...A lot of people just don’t try...in a way, the kid lose. So...my kid ain’t losing by any means."
  — G Herbo [59:40–60:37]

On Youth Violence and Hunger

• "When a hungry, you gotta eat, might eat you."
  — G Herbo [86:34]

On Betrayal and Street Codes

• "That gotta be, like, off limits, for real."
  — G Herbo [69:26]

Track Preview: “Fallen Soldiers”

• "Since Juice WRLD died, I ain’t got nothing left. / Since Pop Smoke died, we ain’t got nothing left.”
  [104:42]
• "Glock on me for protection, homies, just a couple left, falling soldiers..."
  [105:01]
• Fat Joe (impressed): "That’s the best record I heard from you." [108:35]

On Community Work

• "We bought it and...made it like performing arts...just putting something in the city...where kids could have a safe place..."
  — G Herbo [83:44]
• "Swervin’ Through Stress...me really trying to be a staple in the community and give back..."
  [85:29]

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Important Segments (Timestamps)

• G Herbo on survival and gratitude: [03:40–04:09]
• Herbo’s time in the industry, fashion & addiction to “drip”: [05:42–09:03]
• Taxes, legitimacy, and accountants: [16:12–17:56]
• Chicago festival, unity, & positive examples: [19:09–19:32]
• Leaving the street life, entourage reflections: [37:06–39:37]
• Impossible dangers of Chicago neighborhoods: [41:13–44:06]
• Regal Theater show & Chicago violence stories: [45:16–48:18]
• Collaborations on new album & Juice WRLD tribute: [53:40–56:36]
• Navigating co-parenting with maturity: [59:19–61:02]
• Women, loyalty, and street betrayals: [66:03–69:26]
• Overton project & Swervin’ Through Stress: [83:44–85:29]
• The youth, poverty and cycles of violence: [87:01–89:21]
• Moving out for safety & why middle ground is deadly in Chicago: [90:46–91:47]
• Puerto Rico violence and lessons from other cities: [95:47–98:28]
• Album preview, legendary verses, and closing tribute: [104:16–113:09]

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode strikes a blend of street realism, gallows humor, and hard-won wisdom. The hosts and G Herbo keep things candid, with a mix of playful teasing, deep vulnerability, and mutual respect throughout — all punctuated by real talk about loss, perseverance, and the importance of leaving a mark beyond music.

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Conclusion

This conversation isn’t just an interview — it’s a living oral history of modern hip-hop survival. G Herbo’s tales and tracks underline the near-impossibility of escaping cycles of violence and poverty, but they also showcase the possibility of change, redemption, and giving back. For anyone curious about the realities facing today’s rap stars, as well as a primer on surviving and thriving beyond the “hood,” this episode is a must-listen.

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Album Out Now:
Lil Herb, featuring guest production by No ID, Wyclef, Juice WRLD, and more — available on all platforms.

"You get one chance in this. Only one chance. Can’t be with the devil dancing. And you got one life...You get one shot. Don’t miss." — G Herbo, “One Chance” [109:49]

Final Word:

"Just being able to be in this type of room and have these kind of conversations, be alive, is a blessing." — G Herbo [102:01]

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[G Herbo]

Like just being here alone is a blessing. You feel what I'm saying? Just being able to be in this type of room and have these kind of conversations, be alive is a blessing.

[Fat Joe]

God is great.

[G Herbo]

I don't even know how many times I got shot at. I done got shot at so many times and I'm still here. That is a blessing, bro. I'm telling you.

[Fat Joe]

It'S the God crack. Kim Woo.

[Joe Budden]

You know who it is? Your boy Jada.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, why throw you off like that? You heard that crack?

[Joe Budden]

You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And I don't know about them other shows, but we keep our word with just that. Today's guest, when you think of a good person, know what I mean? He get love where he's from. He get loves in other demographics. That shows what kind of character he has. Excellent artists, student of the game, top tier father, throw that shit on. I mean, Ice Game is superb. Also one of the, probably definitely a number one album that's out right now. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother, G. Herbal.

[G Herbo]

Appreciate you, big broom, man. I love you, man.

[Joe Budden]

No, you know I got a lace. You. You know what I mean? No, I gotta. I gotta let the people know what it is.

[G Herbo]

Appreciate you, big bro. Let's get it.

[Fat Joe]

I noticed lately we were having a lot of light skinned guys on the fucking show, right? AI Common. It's like, we've been.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know you was looking at.

[Fat Joe]

We've been knowing the thing.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know you was going. You taking the journalism thing to another level.

[Fat Joe]

The fuck out of here. Don't listen to this D right here. Chi town zone. She Herbo. We've been watching you for a minute. How many years you been in the game?

[G Herbo]

Going on 14 now.

[Fat Joe]

14 years. That must make me a dinosaur, right? You may have gained 14. So you're like, they not looking.

[Joe Budden]

Crackasaurus.

[Fat Joe]

Crackasaurus, Crackasaurus. They not looking at you like a young artist, right?

[G Herbo]

They're like, nah, hell no.

[Fat Joe]

You a savvy vet?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Fat Joe]

Immediate.

[Joe Budden]

He's seasoned. Mediocre for sure. Not in the middle career. He got more to go similar. And he's on fire.

[Fat Joe]

You've been around 14 years. You more on fire now than ever before.

[G Herbo]

Definitely.

[Fat Joe]

Me and Jada, we on the podcast. We killing these. They dizzy these. They didn't want to commit suicide. Yo, these smashing this, but they dizzy, flabby and sick. Oh, what's your zodiac sign? Get the out of here with that. This is the.

[G Herbo]

No, you know that.

[Fat Joe]

Tell them Herbo. You've been trying to get on it.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no, I've been overly. Like. I couldn't wait to do this. Like, for real. For real.

[Fat Joe]

Like, you know, Shannon, I put.

[G Herbo]

I saved this fit for the day. Everything. All this. This is all intentional. I couldn't wait to come sit on this count.

[Fat Joe]

Thumbs up.

[G Herbo]

Appreciate it.

[Fat Joe]

And then another guy came up in. He said his gear wasn't ready. He walked in and everything. Another leader of the new school to be dripped out. Walked up. He seen in first and all that and said, come back next time, Joe. I'm not ready. Yeah, you know that's a fact. No, no, no, that's a fact. A guy that y' all consider one of the flyest in the. Am I lying? Am I lying?

[Joe Budden]

He's talking about fly guard. West side gun stepped in.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, why you.

[Joe Budden]

He wasn't ready to. Cuz he throw that on. Cuz you always doing these alleged shits. We gotta get some. Halfway he came and you know he throw his shit on.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He didn't.

[G Herbo]

He didn't.

[Fat Joe]

Now he got.

[Joe Budden]

Now he got on.

[Fat Joe]

Now he got a.

[Joe Budden]

So he's gonna come back now.

[Fat Joe]

When he went, he got a prize.

[Joe Budden]

And he wanted to bring his. He wanted to bring us some sneakers, too. Crack.

[Fat Joe]

When he come back, I'm gonna have to throw the extraterrestrial on. Still be breathing. And it's gonna have a jacket on that gonna have.

[G Herbo]

Still have veins popping up.

[Fat Joe]

Lion is gonna still be breathing that ain't dead yet. He's gonna. I'm be up in here like this.

[Joe Budden]

See what I gotta go through.

[Fat Joe]

This about to go.

[G Herbo]

Nah, I throw some shit. This was all intentional. I la out like on the couch. Like, I really. I do this drip shit. What my room look like?

[Fat Joe]

As you supposed to.

[G Herbo]

I got. I probably got a hundred thousand in drip. Just in the hotel room on the couch, laid out for this.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm talking about. Talk slow to these. That don't know. Talk slow to these.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, man, for real.

[Fat Joe]

For I've been.

[Joe Budden]

I dress like the mannequin.

[Fat Joe]

I ain't gonna lie to you. You know how people got gambling parts? People go gamble this. When you know yourself, there's gamblers who sign themselves out the casino and be like, yo, don't allow me to gamble.

[G Herbo]

I didn't even know you could do that.

[Fat Joe]

No, I swear to God. His guy's really blowing the fucking mortgage of the house and all. It get to a point where they go to all the casinos and be like, yo, don't let me in. I'm about to go shopping therapy. I want somebody to sign me out. I'm tired of buying the fly shit. I gotta get out of here. Bern off. Kick me out your phone. Oh, Gucci, kick me out phone or.

[Joe Budden]

They gotta take your eyesight.

[G Herbo]

He said that? N. Look, I ain't gonna lie. This nigga just said, before we. Before we started this shit. He said, yeah, mama, at the Knicks game and shit. Louie down to the ankles.

[Fat Joe]

No, I'm Louie to the. Yo, listen. Thank God I don't sell drugs. Cause I wore an outfit. I told you on the show. Did I not tell you on the show? Whoever wear gear, whoever's into fashion, there's a lot of people we know do not come to the game.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

Do not come to the game. Because it's going to be real painful for you. When you look over here, you're going to feel bad. It's going to be like an eyesore. So that giraffe to go with it looked like it came with the jacket. Stu, come on, watch.

[G Herbo]

Look like it came with the jacket. Like you bought it together.

[Fat Joe]

It came with the shit accessible. Man, what the fuck, man?

[G Herbo]

You can't make this shit up.

[Fat Joe]

No. And the man told me, he come in the suit. He said, damn, Joe. He said, why you wear all that? Why you got all that on? I said, Listen, this is years of abuse. This is years of pain. You guys wanted me dead or in jail. So while you throw that camera on and I'm caught side on that jumbotron, you gonna read Louie all day, make you hate it. And let me tell you something. That shit went so viral, I thank God I don't sell drugs or nothing. I said, yo, this is.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, they coming.

[Fat Joe]

They was one of them opportunities.

[G Herbo]

They coming.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Fat Joe]

That was a Frank Lucas moment that had me hot. Sherry shepherd, everybody told me, who the is this? That was three minutes hot. I'm somewhere else, sweating bullets like, yo, this yo was. I don't know if I did the right thing.

[Joe Budden]

Thank God Taxes was my niece. As he was hating on you, what happened?

[Fat Joe]

And it backfired on her.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, because they came back.

[G Herbo]

You gotta just start some. Like when you get so fresh, if.

[Fat Joe]

The street 67, you gotta start some. Like, hey, man, if you on the streets.

[Joe Budden]

If you on the streets or whatever.

[G Herbo]

You doing, man, if you ain't.

[Fat Joe]

If you ain't really. If you ain't willing jit yet.

[Lil Herb]

You gotta watch the shit you wear.

[G Herbo]

You might have a fair time fit.

[Fat Joe]

Your fit might get you fair time. My daughter tried to play me.

[G Herbo]

You get fair time.

[Fat Joe]

She was like, dad, let's do a TikTok. It was right out of here. We on our way to the game. And I don't know that she playing me. It's like, you know, unknown. It's like your father dressed whack or whatever. It just happened. If I'd have took the outfit off, the shit be standing by itself.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Fat Joe]

It was too much paraphernalia in that. That was contraband, my nigga. I'm telling you, I got scared two days later. Two days later. I don't know where I'm at Vegas or some shit complex Con.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You went there.

[Fat Joe]

I got scared of the. I said, yo, we're not selling drugs no more, right? We ain't doing that. Cause we hot right now. This. This done got me. This. This one of them hot. This is one of them hot outfits.

[Joe Budden]

This thing is crazy.

[Fat Joe]

I did too much. But anyway, you heard. Well, anyway, I want to sign. Anybody help me hit James at the email. I need a psychiatrist, something. I'm gonna go broke. I'm not lying to you guys. I can't do it no more. I have to admit to myself, go.

[Joe Budden]

Fun and stop joke starts with self first.

[Fat Joe]

I got a problem.

[Joe Budden]

As soon as we leave here, I'm gonna see him at Louie or burn it.

[Fat Joe]

You got a Problem too. You couldn't. You just left Louie. You just left Bird off. I'll be like, yeah, yeah, I just left the joint, man. But you know, hey, we ain't have. I got it. I gotta. I got a slogan with my. We ain't have nothing.

[G Herbo]

No, for real.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'. They would give me the sneaker three years after it was this. Let me tell you one year I worked some of you. I bought a green sweatsuit, a blue sweatsuit and a red one. And by the year was through the middle of the school season, it was fresh for the first.

[Joe Budden]

You trying to match the yard, nigga.

[Fat Joe]

I had the green, the blue, the shit, the same shit. Every like, you know, they know I was fucked up. So I give them the pain. If you still around guys. And I'm doing that, you know what I'm saying? Because you know in past generations as.

[Joe Budden]

Ill that you feel. Because I feel like that too.

[Fat Joe]

Like.

[Joe Budden]

Cause I wasn't the freshest in school.

[G Herbo]

Or none of that.

[Joe Budden]

As soon as was coming around, most of my get back is for them. That was in my English class.

[Fat Joe]

As soon as I was 14, I was wearing Dapper Dan Iced Out. Okay, 14. It was over. It was over. After that, I was like. I was having.

[Joe Budden]

And you had the Grady bunch here?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah. I had a full set of. I'm about to go to Turkey and get my cbo. The other day I seen the. This had all his hair. I walked in the watch store, I think FB Giano or some. And the nigga here was like. I said, man, I wish I had shit like that. I changed my name to her CEO and shit. My shit flipping like on some. If I had hair, I'd be on some super bullshit. Like I be.

[G Herbo]

She said I'd be on some.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, I'd be irritating. My shit would be curled up like finger waves, all type of shit all.

[Joe Budden]

The way out the head or flick.

[Fat Joe]

Where it's my shit be like had a full set.

[G Herbo]

He's crazy on the turkey.

[Joe Budden]

Let's talk about this album that's. That's dominating the streets right now. Little hurt. I wasn't. I wasn't working with no id, man.

[G Herbo]

That's my big brother.

[Joe Budden]

Big shout out to Nadia.

[G Herbo]

No id, man. Big bro. And him and Mick, my manager, who been with me since forever. Like, they. They got a 20, 30 year friendship, relationship, brotherhood. You feel what I'm saying? So no id. He one of them, like people throughout my journey that always just like gave his input through shit through this, through this, do that. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, I know I could call big bro and just like, as an artist, you gotta have people around, like, no idea what you could call and be like, all right, but I need to get hot. Certain shit like that. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, yeah, it's a blessing to even be able to like have somebody like that in your corner. For real, for real. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So shout a big bro and that even like getting that record done and the samples, certain shit. Like he gonna make a call and get that shit clear like done. Like, you ain't even gotta think about the power. Yeah. Nah, for real, for real, nigga. I got power.

[Fat Joe]

What you want me to talk about?

[Joe Budden]

The new fucking album, man. You wanna.

[Fat Joe]

Well, the new song, fucking smash.

[Joe Budden]

You hear it everywhere.

[Fat Joe]

Legit. You know, when I did lean back, I asked some shit. 10 years. 10 years been legit to still figure me back. Cause they always think we like illegal. But you saying I'm legit. I've been 14 years, literally legit.

[G Herbo]

I've been a real tax paying artist. I've been paying taxes for 10 years now. For real, for real. Million dollar taxes cost some M's. When it come around, you mad like you pissed you got paid.

[Joe Budden]

Never been really going legit. I hate taxes.

[G Herbo]

I hate it.

[Joe Budden]

I hate pain.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all know what type of taxes be like a hit me on the head with it.

[G Herbo]

We all are in a different.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I think, though? Hold on, we can talk.

[G Herbo]

After. I pay taxes.

[Joe Budden]

Heating pads all type of out there. I pay tax.

[Fat Joe]

Let me explain something to you. I'll be thinking, I'll be thinking. I'd be thinking, the accountants hate us because we make so much money. These guys make a regular salary and they looking at us and they thinking, this is free. They don't think we really work. Rap niggas coming up in here with all this money and they be fucking like, ah, give them extra. Yo, I'm thinking this and this and I fucking hate accountants. I hate them.

[Joe Budden]

This my dad, I hate him. My pops is. Runs all my shit, so he's. And he still treat me like that. I come in and pay my taxes.

[G Herbo]

Here.

[Joe Budden]

Go G wagon.

[G Herbo]

The first one you got to sign.

[Joe Budden]

And here goes a mansion. Stop me. You gotta rub it in. You're my father. You treat me just like a regular accountant over here.

[Fat Joe]

No, the house. The accountants hate people. The accountants hate people with money. I really, I'm really convinced.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

No, they hate you, man.

[Joe Budden]

They throw a little subsidy.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, they throw them low blows like a mother.

[Fat Joe]

They don't mean low blows. They don't give a fuck, bro. They don't care. They hate us. We make too much money to them. They thinking it's a walk in the park. They don't know. I had to go to the jungles of Africa, the favela. But you know how many times we almost die? Like, you, right? You young. You make music for the streets. You still ain't cross over to like. Like me. Yeah, I get paid wires. White people only. Like, I've already reached that.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I ain't got to get stabbed at the show or shot outside. I'm there now, corporate events. And you still in the jungle.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no, I'm still in.

[Fat Joe]

You in Memphis, Tennessee. Chi Town. For sure. Going to get that back. For sure. You know, and they don't understand. They just look at the numbers and say, yo, you made this. You made this. You made this. They don't know the type of shit we got to do.

[G Herbo]

Got to go through actually get.

[Fat Joe]

Hip hop is a very dangerous.

[G Herbo]

Probably the most dangerous, to be honest. For real? For real.

[Joe Budden]

Congratulations on the show. He pulled off a big event.

[G Herbo]

Thank you. For sure. Appreciate it.

[Joe Budden]

Watching the verses in copper. He like, yo, in the morning, I gotta go fly out the herb. I'm like, damn.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I got.

[Joe Budden]

I had to do the 1 million.

[Fat Joe]

So what, you did like your own festival?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, I did my own BDAY bash at the Wind Trust. That was sold out.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that was hell. I wanted to be.

[Fat Joe]

And they let you do that?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, they let me do that shit.

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It was crazy.

[G Herbo]

I had 19 artists on the bill.

[Joe Budden]

Everything smooth?

[G Herbo]

Everything was smooth. Everything went perfect. We did the show, went out to two, three clubs. All the artists went out. We party, had fun. Everything was. That's beautiful. Safe.

[Joe Budden]

That's when you get.

[Fat Joe]

That's a prime example of you can work together and be positive and all that. Because people be scared of shit like that. Like me. They let me perform in Katona Park. That's my hood.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I did that.

[Fat Joe]

They never let me perform.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, he felt that. He felt that. That's my. Look, this is my brother right here, D. He from the Bronx. Look, I'm gonna tell you some shit. I'm gonna fuck your head up. I be outside in his hood and shit. Cause everybody don't know what bro from 149th intention. We seen you at the bakery, the Pitousa. We seen you outside the Bakery eating on the rolls by itself. Dolly in the Bronx. Yeah. Ain't that shit Batusa Patusa? That's the name of the bakery.

[Fat Joe]

Atuso Bakery.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Listen, we seen you outside, nigga, at the bakery in front of the Rolls.

[Lil Herb]

Tiffany Rose.

[G Herbo]

Tiffany Rose outside.

[Lil Herb]

He just on the hood of his car eating.

[Fat Joe]

Hello. That's nothing new. I pull up everywhere in that shit.

[G Herbo]

I pull up everywhere in that shit.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, I tell them, if you kill me in my city, shame on you. Yeah, ain't too many rappers Thanksgiving coming up, we feed 5,000 families. We just don't feed. Feed them turkey, for sure. We give them the turkey, the rice, the soup, the yam, the this, the G, everything. We gonna put some glizzies in that.

[Joe Budden]

No glizzies.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something.

[Joe Budden]

Shame on you, having glizzy on Thanksgiving.

[Fat Joe]

Shame on you.

[Joe Budden]

Emphatic. I don't care what type of glizzy shouldn't make.

[G Herbo]

The menu didn't even exist on Thanksgiving.

[Joe Budden]

Thanksgiving. If you tell me you got a.

[Fat Joe]

Turkey glizzy, I'm gonna tell you something, right? You. Because you work out every day and all that, I'm gonna fucking believe you, right? But everybody laughing at the glizzy. They eat the fucking glizzy. I walked in the Nick game the other day.

[G Herbo]

Yeah?

[Fat Joe]

Somebody was sitting right behind me.

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[Joe Budden]

You gotta stop doing these imaginary, you.

[Fat Joe]

Know, you're sitting behind me. Stop playing this.

[Joe Budden]

I wasn't there.

[Fat Joe]

Don't guess you full of. I wasn't there. Somebody very important was sitting right behind me. And when I went to greet him, he had a glizzy with sour crowd and mustard. I said, yo, you got the glizzy. He said, I got buying hot dogs. I look at the. He got a glizzy with sour crop mustard and all. I looked at him, I said, I.

[Joe Budden]

Know how to take this. Did you want to be the only one with it, glizzy, or you didn't like the man?

[Fat Joe]

Not the man, not gay. He there with his wife and all that. As much as people with me over a glizzy.

[G Herbo]

Why?

[Fat Joe]

I see the man and I'm like, yo, I can't breathe in plain view. If I was a cop, flash the light to see the butt of the gun.

[Joe Budden]

Where was the glizzy, though? In plain view.

[Fat Joe]

I had the glizzy in plain view. Pull over. Pull over. Hey, what the fuck? Pull over. And all I could think of is, like, yo, you got the glizzy, right? Cause they starting to make me think I'm fucking Crazy. Like I'm the only nigga eating a hot dog. I see the shit. I said, yo, yo, you got the glitz. He said, yo, chill. Cause he knew this shit was coming sooner or later.

[G Herbo]

Wait, no bullshit. Wait one more time. Where was that?

[Fat Joe]

What the glizzy was at Plain View. You know, when the cops pull you over, they be like, I flashed the light, I seen the butt of the gun. You know, somebody call the cops on you, I walk up decent. Yo, what's up, man? Yo, it's a glizzy. Glizzy, like. Cause you know, they got me looking like I'm the only one that get anyway. Fuck that.

[Joe Budden]

You're the only one that eat glizzies in public is with promotion. You got promotional glizzy.

[Fat Joe]

I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna eat the glizzy in front of all these niggas.

[Joe Budden]

What the fuck? Hey, bro.

[Fat Joe]

Bro, my home.

[G Herbo]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Lil Herb]

You got a good birthday, bro.

[G Herbo]

That said, man, I just want to see one flag get thrown, bro. My birthday complete, man. My brother.

[Joe Budden]

It's gonna be more flags. Happy birthday, man.

[G Herbo]

We go.

[Joe Budden]

It's gonna be a lot of more.

[Lil Herb]

Happy birthday.

[G Herbo]

Yk Ski, man.

[Fat Joe]

Right now we got the. The latest episode is my man, Cocky Kai. You heard him?

[G Herbo]

Yeah. Yes.

[Fat Joe]

He's saying, that nigga's incredible. Sit there. Big 500, right? He that big.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, listen, do my man Kai like that, man.

[G Herbo]

Hey, Shout cat. That's my man.

[Fat Joe]

Like, listen, I love him. I actually wanted to text him, man. I love. How about if we ever need a third host on this show, we bringing Cocky car. That is the funniest show I seen in my life. So he's sitting there about 5 or some change.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And he went up. Now.

[Joe Budden]

I need more.

[G Herbo]

I'm trying to just agree, so I'm just trying to agree with him.

[Lil Herb]

So he can land a plane.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. He's going up. Get past that park is you go make him 700.

[G Herbo]

I can't breathe, bro. What the.

[Fat Joe]

When I tell you they almost threw me out my house yesterday because I'm watching this. And the man say with the flag. A man say, you know, when I'm on my cheat day, I'm like, I threw that flat. Cheat day. Like, who the. What? Get the out of here. Cheat day.

[Joe Budden]

He tried to get it right, man, when he on his cheat dog and.

[Fat Joe]

You actually gassing the like.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You know, do pull ups. I quit.

[G Herbo]

Yeah. No, I ain't telling him to do no pull. I know you didn't I know for a fact you didn't.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, I quit.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we supposed to race on Netflix Live. Me and him, we.

[G Herbo]

You're supposed to race.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. He said Ghetto gave him three cars.

[Joe Budden]

I gave him three cars. In the hoods.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, that was funny. He.

[Joe Budden]

We gonna work out.

[G Herbo]

I'm definitely betting on you. You could give him three cars 1,000%. You get that? Three cars. I'm definitely betting on that.

[Joe Budden]

For sure.

[Fat Joe]

Hard Rock bets. You think they'll pull that?

[Joe Budden]

Like, we could get that. We could get a line on that. Tell you something, I might have to give him four or five cars.

[Fat Joe]

You give four or five? Five.

[G Herbo]

He might win five. He might. He's still not.

[Joe Budden]

I was being jealous. I really. I ain't even going to tell y' all this. I was ready to give him a block. All light.

[Fat Joe]

I need a yo, yo, that gotta run about two cars. And he like, we gonn gonna make it. We don't make it. But anyway, I love him. I'm saying it first. If we need a third host, I want Cocky Kyle. Cause the man, he's a breath of fresh air.

[G Herbo]

Great.

[Fat Joe]

That was the funniest shit. I watched that shit like ten times last night. I just kept dying laughing. This shit was funny. I'm foul, but fuck it, you know what I'm saying? He said the cheat day. I gotta throw the flag. Eight set, y'. All, two 30 flags on me already. This started 10 minutes ago.

[Joe Budden]

Plain sight, blizzy. You got all type of infractions.

[Fat Joe]

That wasn't my charge. That was his. You know, the cop comes, but it wasn't my charge. They put the flashlight and they like, yo, the gun, I saw it. The glizzy was in place, was in plain sight. No tints on the window. Said, yo. I said, nah, nah, don't worry. I ain't gonna do it to you like that. But you know, yo, you got. Yo, the glizzy.

[Joe Budden]

Said nothing. Confidence for people to actually hit a glizzy at stadiums and arenas like celebrities.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, I think they still. I think they still hide. I don't give a fuck, man.

[Joe Budden]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

Anyway, let's talk about. All right. So I can explain to you my career. Yeah, right. I don't know about Jadaki's career. You know, he been doing. He been flying, consistent. But for me, right, my career is like one of them guys you see in baseball, like Big Papi Ortiz or the guy from Toronto. I either hit the shit out the park, grand slam, or I swing and miss and fall on my face. So my career, there's been times where I'm number one in America, and there's other times where I'm flop mania. And then now you look in and you gotta get back. I remember one New Year's Eve, I'm in my mother's house, recipes, and I'm watching, like, the. We grew up watching the Happy New Year on tv. And I remember I was sitting there in my mom's house, I was cold as fuck. And I said, next year, I'm on the Happy New Year shit. You better watch. I'm gonna be on that 10, 9, 8. And the next year, I was dead with a fucking burgundy velour suit. But you, it seems like you. 14 years, you went hot, cooled off a little. This, this, that. Tell me about that whole transition when.

[G Herbo]

You said that shit. Like, I felt you for real. For real. Like, I think that it's a mental thing, too. Like, with us, we feel like that. Like, even when we cold, we still hot. Cause I was just about to say, these people, you ain't never not been that nigga to me. You feel what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[G Herbo]

So you might feel like that. And I feel like that, too. I felt like that many times, like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, especially with my career.

[Fat Joe]

Thank you for the gods, for sure.

[G Herbo]

You gotta go right hand so this shit don't go left, man. Somebody told me that yesterday. I'm sticking with it for sure. Anyways, I'm saying all that to say, like, with me, my career especially, like, I definitely. It's been like a roller coaster. Like, hot as fish grease and shit. Cool off and get cold and slow down. But it's like, you just really can't stop. You just gotta stay at this shit, go to the studio, figure this shit out. The name of the game is rap. So it's like, they gonna love you then. They might hate you, but they gonna love you again. If you put some shit out. If you put some shit out that's hard, and they gonna feel it. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and that shit, like, what that nigga Miss say? He said, long as the streets is filling it, a nigga like me could sell it. Like, just gotta put this shit out. Just keep going for real. So with me. And I seen that, though, like, from my perspective, looking at the world on the outside, like, I seen people count me out for, like, oh, yeah, it's over with Herbo Trash. Herbo Garbs and this. And me, mentally, I know I could rap. I know I'm one of the hardest niggas to get in front of a mic. So it's like, that just fueled my fire. I seen that shit. And the same way you said, next year, I'm gonna do this, I really had a real plan, and I saw that shit out. I'm like, man, next year, I'm dropping as much as I can. You feel me? I got a lot of shit in order in my life, mentally, in my personal life, family shit, getting through that shit, business shit, all of that shit. But in the midst of all that fire, I still went to the studio and I had a plan. I had a strategy. Like, nigga, I'm finna record my hardest shit and put this shit out in the streets. Go, Philly.

[Fat Joe]

Tell me if I'm wrong, right? Cause you grew up in the real street shit, and it feels like you had a point where you like, all right, I know what I gotta do to get to this next level I gotta do. And it feels like you telling the homies, yo, chill, Let me do what I gotta do. Yeah, that's one of the hardest things to do. Especially if they alleged killers and they crazy. They this and this and this. I. Yeah, really had to do this. Yeah. Like, I. I'm not lying. I think that Joe invented the entourage.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, like.

[Fat Joe]

Like, I think I invented that shit. Don't throw no flags. I'm telling you the truth. If you from my era, Fat Joe might be one of the first guys you ever seen with 40 guys that look like they don't leave the block missing. These niggas are animals. Yeah, I had to tell them, yo.

[Joe Budden]

You can't come fall back.

[Fat Joe]

Wish me luck. If I make it, you might need something. Yo, this. It's the hardest shit to tell a group of animals.

[G Herbo]

No alleged animals. You gotta say that.

[Fat Joe]

No animals. Savages. Yo, listen, let me go. Some of them get mad at you, and you tell a man I have one of my mans that I Don't want to talk too deeply, but my man was Kingpin. And that's my man. I mean, I grew up with him. And this, this and that. I had to explain to the nigga. I said, yo, you Fat Joe brother. You out here moving all type of shit. I'm trying to be legit. They gonna run me in some Rico shit with you. You too big out here. You get. It's actually better for you to stay away. Stay away from Fat Joe. Cause I'm over here on Billboard doing whatever I'm doing. And you. And he never. To this day, he never understood what I was trying to tell him. But I'm trying to tell him. It's like a nigg, you know, you get caught, you'll be like, all right, come out the closet now. We're caught. Now, yo, Johnny, get out the. Get out the speaker box. We're caught. It's like, yo, bro, we don't all got to get caught.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And so it's hard for dudes to understand. Yo, I have an opportunity, a generational opportunity that one day you might need a favor from me. Let me go. It happened to me. I'm talking about me.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I'm staring down the barrel. Meaning two eyes of a stone cold killer.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Telling them, yo, I. I love you, Chagito. I can't do it. You know, I didn't.

[G Herbo]

You've been there.

[Fat Joe]

You can't beat up my fans. You can't. This, this. That doesn't work for me. I'm looking. Please, just hope I make it. I hear that in, like, your interviews and all that. Where you at? That transition and how's it going for you? This.

[G Herbo]

I'm in a good space now. Like, mentally with this, like, this shit.

[Fat Joe]

You are. What about them?

[G Herbo]

Not all.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody.

[G Herbo]

Hell, no. I was just finna say, like, for real. For real.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody ain't gonna.

[G Herbo]

Everybody ain't gonna get it. They ain't gonna let us see.

[Fat Joe]

Let them say there's a jewel that young niggas gotta hear.

[G Herbo]

Nah, for sure they ain't gonna all understand it. Like. Like the same shit you saying. I'm telling like I'm looking at you. And only certain could really say that. That you had to do that. That you really had to, like, separate yourself from this shit. Cause you really gonna either die or go to jail. Especially when you running with niggas like that. Like, I used to have a hundred at my shows, too. 150 niggas on the road. All this shit. Like, I really. That is the proof is in the pudding. That shit on paper. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Like, even to do that and to be able to, like, separate yourself from that and be able to look at a. That's really in the streets, that's a stone cold killer. A sav. It is. And be able to say that you gotta have that shit in you too. You feel me? Like, I ain't never had no fear in my life. When you get to a certain point and you see, like. Cause I didn't understand what I was doing either. Like, I didn't understand I was gonna be this big. But when I became this big and I realized, like, damn, I'm doing some shit that I could change everybody life, your life, my family life, everybody life. You feel what I'm saying? That's when you start realizing, like, niggas be on some shit. Like, they don't understand or they don't get it. Nigga be on some shit, like, oh, you a. You punking out. You doing this. You. When you have those type of conversations, you gotta tell a nigga like, bro, if you don't stop doing this shit, you gonna go to jail or you gonna die. For real, for real, like, nigga, be naive to the fact you feel what I'm saying. It's like, me, I never been naive to anything I was doing. When I was in the streets, I knew for a fact the shit I'm doing could put me in jail or I could get killed doing this shit. You feel what I'm saying? It's like. And you gotta have them conversations with niggas where it's like, you just. You can't do it. It's not. There's no way possible to really have one foot in this industry and one foot in the streets. That shit is insane. That's what I tell them all the time.

[Fat Joe]

You know, I'm real connected to Chicago.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know if you know, right? And. Nah, he asked him. You old enough. I don't know if you know what time it is, right? On another level. Okay. And it's so hard to walk two blocks.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no, that shit too.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not talking about the young shit. We see n It just gang, you can't walk two blocks.

[Joe Budden]

Fuck no.

[Fat Joe]

In Chicago.

[G Herbo]

Yeah. No, for real. That shit sound crazy. But it's for real, though.

[Fat Joe]

Like, two blocks.

[G Herbo]

In my neighborhood, we growing up. Like, you can't. Like, we'll be in the spot, chilling, hanging out, smoking weed, playing the game, then left the spot and got shot.

[Fat Joe]

Going to the corner store blocks. I want to know why they want to kill niggas. 40 below zero. Yeah, it's 40 below. It's cold.

[Joe Budden]

Heat your ass up a little bit. Crack.

[Fat Joe]

Are you. Are you watching with binoculars out the window to see if homie go to the corner store? 40 below zero.

[Joe Budden]

I did a wedding for Eddie Robinson. Used to be in the NBA. My man. I think that's the Eddie Robinson. He had a wedding shot.

[Fat Joe]

He bought the fat dude. The fat, fat dude used to be on.

[Joe Budden]

Not curry.

[Fat Joe]

Curry? No, he's in Chicago.

[Joe Budden]

He was from the shot, too. Yeah, he rocked. I did his wedding. Now I think I forgot I needed some shades or something before the wedding. So I went to the department store.

[G Herbo]

Pick up some shades.

[Joe Budden]

I got the robe on from the. From my suite.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, you was playing.

[Joe Budden]

Got my hat some kind of way. A. Came all the way from down the corridor.

[Fat Joe]

J. They kiss you Chicago ass. This was great.

[Joe Budden]

I'm like, what? This is your hat. Me, I fix my immediately back. Sergeant Slaughter.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I wear my dip that the shy's wanted to.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no, for sure. It's like, I don't think, like, people really realize, like, to the capacity of, like, how real, like, how treacherous that bitch is. For real, like, it was a real error. Like, now it's not so bad. It's like, you know what? No, I'm saying not so bad.

[Fat Joe]

I'm.

[G Herbo]

Assignment News is bad as fuck. I'm talking about. It's not so bad with, like, the way your hat is. The hat issue, like, that's not as bad. It was a real era. Like, nigga, you couldn't even think about wearing your hat right or left if you ain't know what you had going on. But that was impossible to walk in certain neighborhoods. You gonna get your ass in the hood, huh?

[Fat Joe]

It's called. No, no, no. That's the nice part.

[G Herbo]

You talking about Regal on Saint N. That's. That's my strip. I'm from say N. Regal on say.

[Fat Joe]

N. From 79th too. But let's.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, N. Yeah, yeah. Nah, for real. It was an error, bro. It was an error. You got your hat left or right? Walking down the wrong street. Yo ass is grass boy over with.

[Fat Joe]

For you when I tell you he was dead. Yo, your pops don't even know what was like because I told you this story. You acted like it was a regular. Nothing crazy.

[Lil Herb]

It used to be real shows at Regal Theater.

[Fat Joe]

Huh? Don't listen.

[G Herbo]

That's one of Regal Theater. That block that it's on. I'll let you finish your story. That's one of the worst. 79th Street. I'm from 79th. That's one of the worst.

[Joe Budden]

And it's over east.

[G Herbo]

That's in my hood.

[Fat Joe]

Know this guy? He's too young. This guy don't understand. I'm from there. Nigga, no, it ain't a flag. I'll tell you a story. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you a true story, right? And I never said this publicly. One time, I get a phone call. This is how much you know. I'm connected to Chicago. One day I get a phone call. It's Kanye West. He said the Latinos and the black dudes was in the war. He said, you're the only one that could stop it. Come to Chicago and stop. I said, I can't stop. I'm saying. He called me to stop the. Out there.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you. We had a show.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Where they got a. With a Mac 11 under him like this.

[Joe Budden]

A little person.

[Fat Joe]

A little person on the.

[G Herbo]

A little.

[Fat Joe]

He has a machine gun under him. Every gang you ever name was in that. And they took. Let me tell you something. Some big shit happened, right?

[Joe Budden]

Big.

[Fat Joe]

Every gang was in that theater.

[G Herbo]

For sure.

[Fat Joe]

They hate each other, right? Niggas was coming. Yo, listen. He was there. I was feeling sorry for him. I was not gonna leave him alone. He was chilling.

[Joe Budden]

He did not know about that. To this couch, yo.

[Fat Joe]

He did not know, right? It was some things. It was a time where they were robbing everybody who went out there and they set up apb. Yo, guess what? Y' all come to this show, we robbing you. It is what it is. Whoever Jada probably didn't know I went with extra Jerry. I had the ugly niggas in the audience in a major way, but this shit went crazy. No, no, I'm telling you, I had the ugly niggas in the.

[G Herbo]

Trust me, I'm picking up what you putting down.

[Fat Joe]

The man go. It turned into a whole riot. You knew who was there. Anthony Mason. Rest in peace. Anthony Mason. He from there. Recipes. Aunt Mason from the New York Knicks. He's not from Chicago. He threw that shit. He has something. No, but listen. Anthony Mason was there. It popped off so crazy. I'm telling you. They got a. With a Mac 11 on stage.

[Joe Budden]

A little person.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody got a gun in there is what I'm trying to say. That could have been Grand Corral. Like they were just letting you.

[G Herbo]

Hey, go off.

[Fat Joe]

You got it. Got a 357. Come inside like it was the scariest in the world. It was ugly. You didn't even know, right? I remember looking at you, I said, damn, Jada don't even know what's going on, right? So I go over there. Actually, we went right, right? Anthony Mason start pushing me, right? It's a riot. Go, Joe, go. He's trying to get me out of there, right? Just Lean backs number one, right? Right. My dj, lv, lv, I look like this. He was on stage with the equipment. We about to perform. That nigga was out the door faster. He was gone, disconnected to like this. They would. That motherfucker was gone. So I look at him run past me and I said, you know what they gonna think we pussy in Chicago forever. We run outta here. I said, yo, lv, he said, what? I said, lean back. Lean back. Fuck the 40 minute show. Just go to the drugs. Lean back. With number one in America. Let's just say they forgot they was fighting. They started lean back. But did they sit like 20, 20 shot niggas. Lean back. Hey, lean back. I could not leave.

[G Herbo]

I ain't even know where this shit was going, man. Yo, I ain't know where he was going.

[Fat Joe]

I need a drink to this shit, man. I felt pussy. Get him a drink. I felt pussy. Cause Anthony Mason, probably the toughest Nick ever, is pushing me out. Go, Joe, go. So when I turned around and looked for my DJ to be like, yo, lv, that was already outside. He ran with the equipment, ran out his. He running. That was crazy.

[G Herbo]

So who the play? Lean back.

[Fat Joe]

Lv, you don't go back. I said, y' all made him.

[G Herbo]

Oh, you said if you gonna come.

[Fat Joe]

I said, lean back. Straight to the drugs. No cut. No cut. The pure.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, let's go.

[Fat Joe]

Lean back.

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[Fat Joe]

They forgot they was fighting. We performed. That's a legendary yo, yo, Jada. It was very scary in there. I'm telling you. Chi Town is.

[G Herbo]

Nah. Regal Theater legendary for sure. I only been inside of that one time in my life that shit been shut down. Regal Theater probably been closed 15 years for sure. Only been in one event in Regal Theater.

[Fat Joe]

I've been in a couple events there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that show we had was there, right?

[Fat Joe]

Huh? That show was there.

[G Herbo]

Crazy.

[Fat Joe]

You were sitting by the radiator. I don't remember where you was at. That shit was crazy in there. But what I'm saying to you is shots. Another thing is they don't give a fuck about the police.

[G Herbo]

Fuck no. Hell no, man. Them young niggas shoot at the police out there, they don't give a fuck.

[Fat Joe]

It ain't even little niggas, is it? I'm talking about the little niggas.

[G Herbo]

Big N, medium niggas, orange, green, small.

[Fat Joe]

You know how niggas don't give a fuck. You know how many times I'm in Chicago and the cop is there and a drop this gun in the world in front of the cop. And the cop just turned his cheek like he don't know what's going on. And the throw the gun in this. I was, I, I've been there with the cops know, yo, these will kill me.

[G Herbo]

Let me chill.

[Fat Joe]

Unless the cop is on. Nah, for real, he know, let me chill.

[G Herbo]

Nobody. Everybody in Chicago. And this is crazy. It's like, like, you know, like, man, shout out to all the police out there that protect the serve, man. They got a, they got a goddamn real tough ass job, bro. Cause like in Chicago, bro, in the streets, like don't got no regard for police. You feel what I'm saying? Like that the high speed.

[Fat Joe]

How about that's the only place, not even la, I've been with, anywhere you could name in la. Every hood, this and that. I've never seen a place other than Chicago. With no disregard for the. With no respect for the. They don't care about the cop.

[G Herbo]

I was one of them. I ain't used to give a fuck either. I ain't gonna let the cop. You wasn't like going to jail. I don't care about none of that. I ain't care about none of that shit, man. I'm blessed to be here, bro. But that's just like the coaching I just learned.

[Fat Joe]

I can't learn the cop.

[G Herbo]

Nah, hell no.

[Fat Joe]

But I always knew respect the cop. Let's get up outta here. Yo. I knew the one thing I knew that my mother and father always taught me since I was a kid is, yo, tell em you gotta know lawyer. I knew this, even have a lawyer. My pops told me have a lawyer.

[G Herbo]

We a couldn't afford one.

[Fat Joe]

We couldn't afford one. I be like, yo, I know my rights. I got a lawyer.

[G Herbo]

That's the first thing they taught me.

[Fat Joe]

That like a, B, C, D, F, G, six, seven years old. Was like, I got a lawyer.

[G Herbo]

N for sure. First time going to jail. I was, I was like 10 years old. First time I got arrested.

[Fat Joe]

All right, no, 10 years old. First time you got arrested.

[G Herbo]

What they locked you up for some fried ass shit. I was young at my homie crib. We his mom's wasn't there.

[Fat Joe]

I went to jail for the same shit. For the first time, gagging four in the morning. I know what he's saying. I know. I went to jail for the same shit, let me tell you.

[G Herbo]

We went upstairs to the roof of his crib in the apartment building. I don't even remember how the fuck we went up to the roof.

[Joe Budden]

We climbed.

[G Herbo]

We went to the third floor. You know how you could climb on a ladder and go up to the roof of a building? We went and did that and was throwing bricks off the roof at cars, like, just throwing bricks and shit at. At cars, moving cars going down the street. He lived on a busy street. We just doing that shit for like an hour. But this how we got arrested. Our dumb ass. We got bored and started dropping the bricks on the cars on the street. So that was how we got caught. Cause it's like they coming from down. You could tell somebody doing this shit from this building from the top of the shit. And somebody called the police. Police came, got in the building, and probably one of the tenants was like, man, that's them badass Royce right there on the second floor. Like, you feel me? They came, locked my ass up. That was the first time I was in.

[Fat Joe]

My man threw a party in his house. His mother and father was out of town. They locked all of us up. I was maybe, I would say 13, 14. But they locked 20 niggas the whole party. They thought we broke in there, something. They locked everybody up. And it was the first time I went to the precinct or whatever that is locked up. And, man, he threw a party. And we know the lady, we know the man.

[G Herbo]

We know they really booked off, like, trespassing or something.

[Fat Joe]

It was just.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, I got locked up like that before, too, though. Like, a party full of people. Everybody got booked. Shit like that. I ain't gonna lie. Life used to be, like, simple and fun, though. Bullpen be lit in that motherfucking open. 20 of the guys get locked up. You don't even give a fuck. You in jail. Niggas just in there just. Just chilling, man. I ain't gonna lie. Like, yeah, I'd have been there. Life used to be simple, man.

[Joe Budden]

No talk about the features. How the hell you get Wildclef?

[G Herbo]

How you link up with Wildcloth? That's too tough, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. Make put it. Yeah, Wyclef, that beats. Yeah, that so solid. Like, he. I've been talking to him, like, almost every day since we did this. Like, yeah, he'd be sending me ideas. Yeah, we finna work on some whole water shits for show. For show. Like. Yeah, nah, that real musical genes is like, for real. For real.

[Fat Joe]

I'm g. Tell you something, make good to play together. I think this is the first shirt and I'm freezing. This ac's too much. The back of my neck. This on the back of my neck.

[Joe Budden]

Should have got the hat on.

[Fat Joe]

The legendary flow.

[G Herbo]

I should have gathered that.

[Fat Joe]

Like, y' all went too much. Y' all went too much.

[Joe Budden]

Ac. You should have got that hat.

[Fat Joe]

Lord, now this shit below zero in this. Like, come on, now.

[Joe Budden]

They try to match the swag.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, I can't do.

[G Herbo]

That's a nice ass fur, by the way, though.

[Fat Joe]

Thank you, brother.

[G Herbo]

It's a nice ass fur.

[Fat Joe]

It was a gift. Shout out to Carolyn, all my people, every one to 10. She gave me a little gift. She said, brother, I bought you something.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, appreciate you, Carolyn. No, you put this shit. When you put that shit on, when you a expert dripper, you could just look at some shit like, you look at that. Just know how much it costs.

[Joe Budden]

Five.

[G Herbo]

Shit like that. You know them. Yo, I ain't gonna say the number.

[Fat Joe]

How to be stopped, yo, I have to be stopped. You know what? Let's make a toast to the new album, Lil Herb.

[G Herbo]

Let's do it.

[Joe Budden]

All platforms.

[G Herbo]

Lil Herb album out here out now. Let's get it.

[Lil Herb]

Yeah, I'll open, I'll open.

[G Herbo]

I'll open the ace up.

[Joe Budden]

How special and meaningful is the Juice.

[G Herbo]

World feature for you?

[Joe Budden]

I said, no. That was your guy?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, man. That's my brother, man. Long live Juice. And just the music that we do, the shit that. You know what I'm saying? Me and Juice World make. I really had. I had to put that on Tuck. I put. I put that one on Tuck. So I'm gonna do something else with. With that record. Just one. Every time I think about, bro, it'd just be like a. Like a nostalgic feeling. I'll be trying to, like, relive the moments that we had. And like, that N was just like a foreign ass nigga to be around, bro. I ain't gonna lie.

[Fat Joe]

I met him a couple.

[G Herbo]

That nigga energy was just great, like, unmatched. For real, for real. Like, that nigga's like, yeah, let's get it. But that nigga energy, like, it was just like super pure, bro. Like, our relationship and even, of course, we met through music, through the industry, but, like, our shit ain't used to have nothing to do with music, bro. That shit used to like.

[Joe Budden]

No, it's real.

[G Herbo]

That nigga used to just. He used to make me rap. Like, I never used to wanna get in the studio and do songs with him. I never used to send him records. Like, jump on this. Like nothing. Like, all the records we got just was us vibing, having fun in the studio, bro. That nigga used to make me rap with him. You feel me? And like, he was such a pure talent. Nigga was just so good at that shit. I used to just want to watch him rap. For real. For real. Like, that nigga was just a different breeze, though.

[Fat Joe]

Champagne. They suspended two time, fellas.

[Joe Budden]

To the new album. Lower. We going number one week. We going number one album, baby.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, man. Some of the finest of champagnes. The Aces.

[G Herbo]

That real leather.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to our partners over there, Ace, you know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

Shout out to the whole rock nation. I don't think we shot them out enough.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to the rock team letting.

[Fat Joe]

Us be in this prestigious space. Desiree Perez, Jay Z, Juan, everybody involved, man.

[Joe Budden]

Brinkley, Lori Rich, everybody.

[Fat Joe]

Cause I take games for granted.

[Joe Budden]

Two time felons, swear to God, I.

[Fat Joe]

Take everything for granted.

[Joe Budden]

The whole production staff, we appreciate you guys.

[G Herbo]

We gotta get them. We sell flowers out so they could get smelt, man.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, let me tell you something. There's a lot of things that's pretty remarkable about you, right?

[Joe Budden]

Like, listen, let me tell you, there's a lot of.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, read the smart question. No, read the export.

[G Herbo]

Expert.

[Lil Herb]

I mean, expert storyteller.

[G Herbo]

By the way, when your record reached.

[Joe Budden]

The algorithm, let me hear the remarkable things.

[Fat Joe]

You my up my train of thought.

[Joe Budden]

You forgot if you was remarkable compliment.

[Fat Joe]

It was about to be legend. Like, I know I forgot what I had, but I know it's gonna be legend. Listen, you're pretty remarkable, right?

[G Herbo]

Appreciate it. Yo, yo, look at big brother.

[Fat Joe]

You guys are with me, man. Telling y', all, y' all gave me a sip of this, now you're with me.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't gonna blame it on the sip. Some of the best grapes. But now a sip can't do you like that. No. Oh, yeah.

[G Herbo]

Come on.

[Fat Joe]

You pretty remarkable because you have a wife.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Correct.

[G Herbo]

Yes, sir.

[Fat Joe]

And over here in New York, we know her since she was a baby.

[G Herbo]

Yes, She's.

[Fat Joe]

She's from here.

[G Herbo]

Yeah. No, for sure. Yeah. Her and your daughter locked in. For sure. For sure.

[Fat Joe]

You got an ex girl that your baby mom and you just shot a video?

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Money back.

[Fat Joe]

Well, I'm.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, for sure. Shout back.

[Fat Joe]

What the man, that. That's gangster, yo. What kind of gangster? All my ex baby ma, they want to stab me in the neck. How do you pull it?

[Joe Budden]

I want to meet him, dog.

[Fat Joe]

That's my.

[Joe Budden]

That's my eye.

[G Herbo]

I'm gonna push him in. I'm gonna pull him in, man. Your side? Yeah. He said you want me, your son? It's too hard. They got a real rock star for sure.

[Fat Joe]

But what we're saying is, how do you get that kind of relationship? Look, your son's mom bring him to your show. That's enough to start World War 3. If a ex could bring his son to the show, would have had a man. That shit is war. Yeah, like, how is this. And I'm praying for peace to continue with. How does that work, man?

[G Herbo]

You know, like, the public perspective. Like, everything ain't always perfect in a family dynamic, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit might get Rocky or whatever the case, but it's like, you know the little saying? Like I was saying that just like, you know how that. What's the saying? God don't bless no mess. You just gotta just like be pure with this and lead with love and respect. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I ain't never not had respect for back. I ain't never not had respect for any of my baby mama situations. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit like that. So it's like. And it's the love we got for our children, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? That shit overpower everything, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, when it come to family in general, like every man, even if, like, I'm not even speaking on just only my situation, like, even if shit do be rocky, like between like a nigga and his baby mama, some shit like that, deep down you want it to work. You want to have your girl to be able be cool with, you know what I'm saying? Your new girl and shit like that.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, you want it. They just.

[Joe Budden]

You wish for it.

[G Herbo]

You just gotta go for that shit, bro. You just gotta like, you know, just try it. Like, you feel what I'm saying? A lot of people just don't try. A lot of niggas just don't. Like, instead of trying, instead of trying to just leave it there. You feel what I'm saying? Like, a lot of. In a way, the kid lose. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't gonna never. My kid ain't losing by any means you feel what I'm saying? So it's like that's my mindset and I'm just blessed that that shit work in my favor. For real?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. I mean that's gonna be a special.

[Joe Budden]

Definitely go down in history as a special human being. So only a certain selected people under that umbrella, Will Smith, you and two other people that I, I don't know yet.

[Fat Joe]

That's what I'm saying. That's good for people to see that everybody can get along. That's. That's very rare.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no for sure.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? So it's, it's beautiful to see. It's super real that you're putting your son first and everybody's getting along.

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[Fat Joe]

You know be mad at a dude because he was like his girlfriend's ex. Yeah, they be mad you didn't even know her. Right. You know how many wars happen because a dude be like, yo, that this. Yo, pro. You didn't even know this woman when I knew. You know, that. Yo, Jada, you know, this is very real what I'm saying.

[G Herbo]

I feel like 80, 90% of wars and shit in the street always happen behind a female. Women 1000%. I don't give a fuck what a nigga say. That shit ain't about money, drugs or block. That shit be behind animosity behind a woman. Bro, I done seen this shit. Kucha, Rock, Maui, a thousand million, gazillion times. For real.

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[Fat Joe]

That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's how special it is that you able to, you know, get along with everybody. Because that shit right there, beautiful. I told him the story about my man. My man, he in jail forever.

[Joe Budden]

The nana.

[Fat Joe]

The nana, huh? He was one of them alleged. Well, he's in jail forever. He's never coming home. That's true. People come and be like. You know, his wife, she used to sleep around. So he come and be like, hey, guys, is in the club. He be like, huh? La Nena. You know Johnny, it works at the music thing. He was with la Nana. Next thing you know, Johnny deader than a right that come in one day.

[G Herbo]

I knew what it is.

[Fat Joe]

Like, stop. She's a great woman. She'll never cheat on.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Fat Joe]

Mario, Mario, Mario gone like, yo, bro. And then most of these guys that kill off the women the first day, they on the news for killing the dude over the women. She already moved on.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no, for sure. So you fucking out both pants legs. She ain't waiting.

[Fat Joe]

One I never understood was when a guy dies, his best friend takes his wife or his girl. They'll be like, oh, no, no, no, no, he dead. I'm talking about a guy's dead. It happened in my hood so many times.

[G Herbo]

Too many times.

[Fat Joe]

It's too normal.

[G Herbo]

Too many times the same.

[Fat Joe]

You always see Johnny and. And. And Willie all the time from kindergarten. All of a sudden, Johnny gets killed.

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[Fat Joe]

Willie's a new man for sure. Johnny would have wanted this.

[Joe Budden]

No, he wouldn't want that.

[Fat Joe]

That turn it over in the grave. Like if they gave him one day, he come kill Willie in a. Like, one day. Yo, you can go back up one day.

[G Herbo]

You just.

[Fat Joe]

That's what he going to do. He going to do that. Hey, let me tell you something. If my wife tell you, Joe would have really liked Tyrone. She's a liar. Kill Tyrone. Him, man.

[G Herbo]

I'm a drink to that.

[Fat Joe]

Kill that. Fuck him. Don't let him come up in my crib talking about, yo, he would have understood. No, he wouldn't. No, he don't. It's the craziest shit. The hood is crazy.

[G Herbo]

Nah, the hood just crazy, bro. It'd be really. That's just like some generational diabolical where it's like, really, you really wanted what I had the whole time. You've been wanting to the whole time. You ain't comforting her. You know, none of this don't happen by coincidence.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no.

[Joe Budden]

I think he. I think they look good. I think they're right together, y'.

[G Herbo]

All. Yeah, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

Sick in the head.

[Joe Budden]

They all sick of that.

[Fat Joe]

You dumb little. Like, I've seen that a hundred times. Ass. You dumb. I seen that.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

No, I could not understand it.

[G Herbo]

That gotta be, like, off limits, for real.

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[Fat Joe]

That was his man, yo. Nah, you know, they understand each other well and get the out of here with that shit.

[G Herbo]

Like, it's certain. Like, just a different breed, a different cloth of niggas. Like, I really could wholeheartedly genuinely say. Like, I ain't never even looked at anybody. I loved wife or looked at they woman and wanted that shit. You feel what I'm saying? Like, wanted they baby when they have a family, no hair and all. Like, I don't even, like, give a how that went before I was in a relationship. However attractive your girl may be, I'm.

[Fat Joe]

Never looking at telling this guy's story, right? I live in Miami. Got the big mansion, gold walls, all type of my.

[G Herbo]

It's your spot, Big. I just wanted to clarify.

[Fat Joe]

Legendary. And every house in the whole neighborhood is a man, right? So I don't know nobody. I'm driving my house every day this, that the next door neighbor be saying, what's up? He's a football. One night, I'm in a club in Miami and I got that record out, baby, I won't tell if you don't want me to. Now, this might get me stabbed by my wife because she never heard this story. But the girl, they play this shit, and the girl come up in front of me and she started dancing. She's like, is she bad? That, I mean, see. Hi, neighbor. Hey. I don't know who the she is. I'm the girl that's always with the football player next door to be like this. Long story short, she was like, yo, Joey Crack, what's up. I've been waiting. I said, listen, you trying to get me murdered? Got guns in Miami, if that know I talk to you in any way. He come come outside of right next door. Shotgun. I'm waving at him every day. You gotta be out your mind. She said, yo, I thought Joey Cracker. No, no, you thought wrong.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

You need to stay over there. Cause that nigga gonna kill me outside.

[G Herbo]

I was gonna say, that's smart. That's smart. Real. That's diabolical. A lot of like, a lot. It's lies, certain cross lines or whatever. Like, I don't know if be in their brain. Like, that's the type of you. Rightfully, logically, how you don't think a nigga kill you. Doing that right next door to me saying, what's up? And you fucking my lip.

[Joe Budden]

Make niggas that ain't crazy. Crazy. Never gonna do it.

[Fat Joe]

Get courage.

[G Herbo]

A nigga gonna get courage behind a woman 1,000%.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, no. A guy who would never kill in his life. He'll kill a guy who would never.

[G Herbo]

Kill in his life.

[Fat Joe]

He killed. He's saying what's up to you Every day, waving at you.

[G Herbo]

He tells heinous murder.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, this is a great guy. You know the guy, fat Joseph.

[Joe Budden]

And if they. If they prove him crazy, he only getting three or five years. That's it.

[G Herbo]

Temporary. And Samuel made him go crazy like he.

[Joe Budden]

He was Stanley Processor.

[Sponsor Announcer / Commercial Voice]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no. He ain't doing a date. Standing your ground. You won't do a date. Then you ground the law legally.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Is if you're scared like, you see, who's to tell you you're not scared?

[G Herbo]

Who to say you're not scared?

[Fat Joe]

I'm at the Denny's is acting up. I shoot the whole place. I'm scared to death. You get away with the. No, they can't tell you if you scared.

[G Herbo]

I'm gonna give you a scenario like this.

[Fat Joe]

Like this.

[G Herbo]

No, for real.

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It is.

[G Herbo]

They're staying ground. I don't know if that's staying ground. But like, say, for instance, like a nigga approach you like a nigga approaching me. And you up the fire and like, tell him, like, get back. Don't walk up on me. And he come again automatically. I don't know if you could kill.

[Lil Herb]

Me with your bare hands.

[G Herbo]

Literally.

[Fat Joe]

I'm tell you the truth. In Miami, you can't even tell them I got the fire back up. Because they'll shoot you in your face in Miami. Let me tell you something. It's different type of guy. These ain't even got sneakers at the station.

[G Herbo]

For sure.

[Fat Joe]

Listen to me.

[G Herbo]

No, don't tell them you got the five back up and make them back up, okay?

[Fat Joe]

Watch the white dude kill four kids at the gas station. They was blasting their music. He said he was scared, he stood his ground, and he got away with it. I watched the news every day. I'm an old. I watch the news. It's called stand your ground if you're in fear. If you're a young lady, you're crossing the streets. These guys look like they scared you. You can let that thing fly. It is what it is.

[Joe Budden]

Only in Florida, man.

[Fat Joe]

That's why Zimmerman won that, because he was in fear of his life.

[Joe Budden]

He said that the fear of Arizona iced tea and a pack of Skittles. Fear, my ass.

[G Herbo]

Nah, for real.

[Fat Joe]

But what I'm saying to you is unfortunate.

[Joe Budden]

He was. Get out of Florida.

[Fat Joe]

They killing niggas. They'll kill you, man.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, they smoking. You know, I go like this. We go. Diddy's having a video in Little Haiti or some like that. No, no, no, no. We keeping that. That's legit. Shout out to B. I know y' all watching. Shout out to Cheeto. All my guys.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody watching every time. Everybody checking us out. We love you. Listen, and we love your whole family.

[Fat Joe]

Ski, the man go. We go to his video, and it's four of us. We all strapped. I'm not saying nothing. That's crazy. We all got the hammer on us. I style whatever. We in Little Haiti somewhere or something like that. When I tell you four kids about this. Skinny was walking behind us to the point we had what you. We pulled the guns out. Four of us with the guns.

[G Herbo]

This area, this right here got the hammer.

[Fat Joe]

Niggas ain't got no.

[Lil Herb]

This right here got the hammer.

[Fat Joe]

This area, you be lucky to see a chiquita banana, nigga. Like, there ain't no diamonds, no nothing, fly car. This here is like third world country.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I actually saw these kids thinking about how they could jump around the bullets and get to me. And we kept telling them, we're gonna shoot your face off. I'm about to go ahead. I'm telling you the truth. I'm telling you.

[Joe Budden]

They try to jump around the bush.

[G Herbo]

That he stopped thinking about how they can jump around the bullet.

[Fat Joe]

My man Rich, the. All four of us had guns out. And I'm telling them, bro, you not getting through. We gonna let this thing go like you're not making it. And I actually Seen them. You know when you can see people thinking. Guys was thinking about how they could dive around the bullets. That's how bad and up it is over there. And they want to get his areas like that.

[G Herbo]

There's areas.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[G Herbo]

It's fucked up.

[Fat Joe]

There's areas where I ain't met nobody.

[G Herbo]

That fast yet, though.

[Fat Joe]

But no, no, no, no. They was gonna.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't seen a movie I ain't seen.

[G Herbo]

No, he was a nigga that fast.

[Fat Joe]

It's a guy that be telling stories on YouTube, right? Who don't know me from the can of paint. I bumped into him in LA after a club. He had his man with him. Once again, we had nine niggas with guns out like that. This. He got one fat boy. He keep trying to play with me on the Internet. That's cool. You know what I'm talking about, right? And we explained the fat boy. Fat boy looked like he was about that life. I kept saying, fat boy, by the time you reach for your yallup, it's nine niggas gonna tear you up.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Fat Joe]

Look, it's here, right? And the guy keep trying to talk to me like I'm a punk, but he know the one time he ever met me, it was none of them things at him. Him.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And he walked it off. All right, this. You know, you walk that thing off, you could lie on them youtubes with two views as much as you want. You knew you wasn't that crazy.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You kept it moving, right? But they be like, trying to talk that shit. It's okay. I know we lit. We young old niggas, man. We got the shit. The algorithm upside down on these n, man. They don't even know, you know what I'm saying? But sometimes. Anyway, let's get to a positive thing, man. What's the.

[Joe Budden]

That album, man? Little Herb. Little Herb we doing, man. My brother's working hard. You see him everywhere and make sure you support this. Cause they don't make these kind of albums. They don't.

[Fat Joe]

This.

[Joe Budden]

What is this?

[G Herbo]

What it is this off topic and. But I really gotta. Like, you've been telling me for years, like, I really. I gotta. I want to pull to your hood just. So I just, like, thug it out. You've been telling me this.

[Joe Budden]

I had to roll it back. They rolled it out. They waiting Herb coming. They start thinking I'm capping.

[G Herbo]

I gotta pull through the hood.

[Joe Budden]

Had to roll the carpet back up.

[G Herbo]

Nah, roll that back out, man. I gotta pull up. I just wanna. I just Wanna. I just wanna pull up and get the energy. Like I'm Kiss man.

[Joe Budden]

No, my bodega section. The Yonkers love the hell out n.

[G Herbo]

He been saying this.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to my man Pinky. Pinky. I'm bringing them, man. I know don't take a lot to you.

[Fat Joe]

I still got love in y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Fat Joe]

I'm pushing up crack.

[Joe Budden]

You like Egyptian monument right now is why you go eat any yams, any turkey. You could go. You don't gotta pay for nothing right now.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody we bring on here with a soul food joint is Jadakiss cousin. Every time we talk about one of.

[Joe Budden]

The biggest families in y my cousin.

[Fat Joe]

What are you talking about? I'm like, yo, Jada, Everybody can mustard sauce.

[G Herbo]

You said you one of the biggest families in.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I got one of them. Yeah, I got one of them.

[G Herbo]

Crazy.

[Joe Budden]

I got one of them last names that turned into nine last names. Oh, no, there. That's the witches. Yeah, I got one.

[Fat Joe]

You know my hood. You have to fight all nine of them. Like, if you beat the your age, the bigger brother come out. Then you gotta fight and keep saving fellas for you.

[G Herbo]

Now I got family like stuff like four.

[Fat Joe]

One time. They. I'll even say it.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Then Clayton Crawford came out this. What's the name that you don't throw the flag. It means Brolic.

[Joe Budden]

It was the Crawford.

[Fat Joe]

Brolic is not. Yo, yo, yo. Right.

[G Herbo]

Brolic is valid for sure.

[Fat Joe]

I beat up for them.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Then they said Clayton.

[Fat Joe]

They send Clayton. He was Brolic. Before we even knew what a muscle was. Was right. That washed the out of me. Like they just cut. Yo, we had the Moody's. We had a butcher family's ass. Yo.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, he was.

[Fat Joe]

We washed me. I mean, Brolic kill. Yeah, he was Brolic. I'm just a fat big boy with heads. He come up in there. I knew I was out my league by the fifth brother. The out of here.

[G Herbo]

But a lot of don't come from that.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody.

[G Herbo]

Let me cut you out. Wait. A lot of don't come from that. Where it's like growing up having a fight. You gotta fight three brothers, four cousins. Like, I used to have to do that. Like I used to. My big brother. I swear, I wish he was in here right now. I got into a real physical the first time and only time I ever fought my brother in life. My big brother.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, with your brother?

[G Herbo]

My big brother. Because this made me fight four people in one day. Like this nigga made me some little niggas woofing. He Came and got me out the house. I ain't know what's going on. He beat they ass.

[Fat Joe]

I told the story.

[G Herbo]

Like, I fought three of their ass straight. Whooped all three of them. And I think it was. Yeah, three. It was three niggas. I fight, fight the two niggas. Whoop them by the third nigga, this the older brother. Like, I fight the brother, the middle brother. I gotta fight the old. Cause I'm beating they ass.

[Fat Joe]

They got three fat sisters amping the shit on on the side.

[G Herbo]

By the third time, I'm like, I don't wanna fight no more, bro.

[Joe Budden]

I'm tired.

[G Herbo]

I don't want to fight no more, bro. For real, for real, like. And I still end up fighting a. But he like, keep fighting him, like. And I'm like, bro, I'm tired. And I. And like, I don't know. I just feel like he ain't want to hear that shit. Like he ain't want to. Just like me telling him, no, I'm not from. I'm like, hell no. That grabbed me, choked me up, all type of shit. Like, don't ever tell me you ain't finna fight in front of these niggas outside. You should have told me you was tired in the house or whatever the case. Niggas don't come from that type of background, though. Rapper. He had contested his story. Bro, I beat the. I whooped they ass, though.

[Fat Joe]

For sure. Dude beat the. He did some shit to my sister. Yeah, she never did, but she came to get me. He was way. I mean, way bigger than me. Say I'm 12. He had to be 17 or somewhere, man. This guy body slammed me, stripped me, suplex me. This dude tripping me and shit. Anything I thought, to this day, I'm traumatized by it. My sister. Rest in peace, Lisa. But I remember on the floor, about the eighth time I got body slammed, I looked up, I said, mama. We used to call her Mama. I said, I can't, Mama.

[Joe Budden]

So what? Yeah, And I went at the nigga.

[Fat Joe]

Face out in there with bodies.

[G Herbo]

Nigga said, I can't.

[Fat Joe]

Tripping me, suplexing me, clotheslining me. Two, piecing me like I got my ass whooped. I had to, actually, finally, yeah, from the floor. I never forget. It still traumatizes me. I look at my sister, I said, mama, I can't. Nah. She was like, all right, Joey this and that. But the guy, for some. Some reason, you know, the two or three times I got my ass whipped in my hood. Nobody outside, right? So it's like, you know, but in my hood, if niggas outside, they'll beat you up 10,000 deep to one dude. Like, they not letting Fat Joe get beat up in my hood to this day, they letting Fat Joe get it up since a kid. But the 1, 2, 3 times I got my ass, nobody was outside beat the shit outta me. Like, my shit. And I'm white, so my shit is like. You know how many guys I beat up and they got lucky and hit me. My shit is a high jammy.

[G Herbo]

That's crazy. I feel that, bro. I swear to God. Like, I didn't really like, man. My mom should tell you, like, every time any I'm. Anytime I get hit, you get a bruise swelling up.

[Fat Joe]

No way.

[G Herbo]

Red Pink. I don't really whoop. And left the fight this out and left the fight purple. Literally.

[Fat Joe]

What does Overtair Elementary School.

[G Herbo]

Overtair, man. Overton. Overton. Overton. That was a project that's still in play, man, for sure. But me and my partners, who I was in business with, jb, Meg, we partnered and, like, just. It was a school that we. That was like. What is. What's the word I'm looking for? Like, it's not demolition got shut down.

[Sponsor Announcer / Commercial Voice]

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[G Herbo]

No, I'm saying it got, like, closed down when like, the. What the fuck was it? Was they, like, boycotting teachers and shit like that? Yeah, yeah, A bunch of schools, like, the teachers, like, boycotted. It was a thing. So that was one of the schools and we bought it and just, you know what I'm saying? Made it like performing arts, where it's like, kids could go work out, poop like. You find what I'm saying? All that just putting something in the city, like, in the city on the south side of Chicago where kids could have a safe place to work out. Still smoke. They still in there working out right now. They redoing the gym. Yeah, Mom's just. Yeah, they redoing that. But I'm just saying, they still going on. Like, they. It's still going. Like. I'm saying yourself.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something, rich player. What was that? Dynasty. You gotta go himself. Because what he says to me, he tells me all the time. He tells me all the time, I'm a narcissist. He says, yo, you're a narcissist. Narcissists don't want to help the community. They don't want to give back to the community. And think about people. What you think about the people losing the snapshot. And we don't get too political here.

[G Herbo]

What do you mean?

[Fat Joe]

But like they losing their food stamps.

[G Herbo]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stamps, yeah.

[Sponsor Announcer / Commercial Voice]

No, that's.

[Fat Joe]

You know, what do you think about that? Because me personally, I ain't got enough money to feed 40 something billion.

[Joe Budden]

Probably could connect with the swerving through stress initiative.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, nah, definitely. For sure, for sure. Like all that go hand in hand. Like even with what we did with Overton, you feel what I'm saying? Like swerving through stress. We done put kids through therapy. We didn't have food programs. Like we did a peace walk at Overton, at the school, like all through the south side, like a real peace walk to stop the violence in like one of the toughest areas. You feel what I'm saying? And like that's how swerving through stress really came about. Just trying to provide something for inner city kids where it's like free therapy, suicide hotlines, food drives, food giveaways. You feel what I'm saying? Just me really trying to be like a staple in the community and give back because I know how hard this shit is. For real. Inner city and in poverty. Inner city. Say like what you saying about like them shutting down the food stamps or not even digging too deep in that. It's like, bro, a home. And me and Mick say this all the time. When a hungry, when a. You don't know. No, no, tough, no, no, I will do anything to you. When a stomach growling, for real, for real. So it's like when a hungry, you gotta eat, might eat you.

[Fat Joe]

It's connected. It's connected to crime. Crime, right. So first of all, if the only it's connected to crime, if the only way you gonna eat is through some snaps or some food stamps and now you ain't got shit and you got kids, what do you think is gonna happen?

[G Herbo]

Yeah, niggas gonna turn up, start robbing.

[Fat Joe]

People, start robbing businesses, doing whatever they gotta do. Not because they just trying to get rich, they hungry. It's because they hungry.

[G Herbo]

I'm gonna give you one even deeper. You ain't even thinking about like the adults niggas who brain fully working and fully functioning. What about the kids? The 12 year old kid who moms can't eat, you know what I'm saying? Moms can't provide. Pops might be dead, Pops might be in jail, his moms can't even provide. And he trying to figure out how to go get some money and how to eat and get nigga stomach growling, he's starving. He the one that's gonna go out and rob and shoot you. His brain not even fully developed.

[Joe Budden]

The only way the middle kid gonna go out there and do some crazy.

[Fat Joe]

The only way to save the future, the only way it's ever been, is you gotta work on the youth. Because the youth, just like you said, you ain't care. I ain't care. I went out every day for violence. Every day of my life I went out for violence, right? And my mother was a nice person, hardworking. Her father was a hard working. My best friend, I don't want to say his name. His mother and father ran to church and his shit was going off more than anybody, right? So I don't know if you're just trying to fit in or whatever the case may be, but definitely I'm not taking a risk. 20, 25 that I'm older that I would have did when I was 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 years old. So the only way is to work with the youth before they get themselves in jail for life.

[G Herbo]

Definitely.

[Fat Joe]

For sure.

[G Herbo]

It's like you gotta. That's the thing. Like when I was coming up, I ain't had nobody like me that I. I wanted to be like and could see and tell me some real shit. I made it. I come from this, I was doing this. Like even I seen a clip where you saying like a. Come from a two parent household and they'll be like, you not in the streets cause you got a mother and a father, shit like that. You feel what I'm saying? Like I come from a two parent household. I was outside thugging. For real. Tell me worst way. Like, no, like I was outside thugging in the worst way and I seen this and like, yeah, it's not for real. No, no, it's like. And how you saying this? Like, bro, I was one of them niggas, bro. I put myself in the line of fire over and over again, bro. I got shot, couldn't walk right back outside on the block I got shot on with a cast. Can't walk, can't run, can't nothing but do nothing but stand ten toes with that fire on me again.

[Fat Joe]

I got shot and saw my myself out the hospital same night. Yeah, and I was in that Beamer 525 blasting that system is a riding around with love. Somebody was trying to say that Joe is dead. I'm in that Beamer like right in the wrong way. Like we was ignorant, man. Everybody was every. Everybody was ignorant. But. But we gotta pray for the future and do as much as we can. I love the way you holding yourself up positive. Because a lot of people, you know, they fall to that peer pressure of they gotta be hood, they gotta be with the boy. Like, I don't trying to get money.

[Joe Budden]

And get her out of that shit.

[Fat Joe]

I really personally don't understand. Right? Rich, rich, rich dudes. Yeah, right. Let's just say the industry, you filthy rich and you still in the gang. You are billionaire in the gang, throwing it up this. I'm trying to figure it out. Like what is it? Is that the street cred? Is that the dis. The that? Like I'll be like, yo, you have no business me just that. Joe, I'm looking. I know Chicago's much different.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, definitely.

[Fat Joe]

Cause you born there, you are who you are.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

Trust me. I know Chicago not as good as you, but I know Chicago is like pick a side is what it is.

[G Herbo]

If you play the middle, that's the most dangerous thing to play in Chicago.

[Joe Budden]

What hardest part to play is right.

[Fat Joe]

You can't even, you can't play the middle. But what I'm saying to you, I mean everybody, I mean everybody in Chicago got to make a choice. Even if you the nicest guy, definitely, you got to make a choice because that's the way that shit is. My thing is why are you a millionaire? Kabillionaire, rappers, I don't want to call them out because I love all of them.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

But I still don't understand why they throwing it up and saying they this. I don't get it.

[Joe Budden]

I think it's smart. Like you. I see Sosa got out of there. I see you got out of there. Even Dirk got out of there.

[Fat Joe]

You got to get at it.

[Joe Budden]

You got to get out of there. It's not even about what they do to you.

[G Herbo]

Puerto Rico.

[Joe Budden]

All of this.

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

Make Chicago look like a walking part. Shoot you.

[G Herbo]

I know that 150 times.

[Fat Joe]

Then take your watch. I'm telling you.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, I know that Puerto Rico's brain matter.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, my brother James, do me a favor, James, go look up Puerto Rico violence.

[G Herbo]

I'm gonna tell you this shit. Let him talk. I was on the phone with a nigga and I was fucking with this artist that I did a song with in Puerto Rico. I never seen nothing like this in my Life. We on FaceTime, bro. It was like a block and a half. Like two blocks from niggas hit. They probably had like 600 guns outside. Never seen nothing like that in my life.

[Fat Joe]

Let me explain something to you.

[G Herbo]

Choppers and sticks, they killing you first two blocks. They showing me the floor like the whole two blocks. I was prob full of guns, bro. Like literally. I swear, I'm not even exaggerating, bro. I probably, probably had like five, 600 guns, bro. I'm dead serious.

[Fat Joe]

Like stacking on top of two blocks.

[G Herbo]

They showing me this, the video FaceTime. I'm on FaceTime. We on FaceTime. Like two minutes straight. Just showing me guns.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, the Reggae Tone dudes, every last one of them worship and love Puerto Rico. But they living in Miami or Orlando. Because that shit over there, I'm telling you, in Puerto Rico, you think Fat Joe tough. You see Fat Joe walk around New York and the Rolls Royce and all that. I'm a choir boy in Puerto Rico. I go over there, I'm like the cheapest watch one herringbone a not even that Seiko watch like this going. Guys told me the other day too fee where you at Feeb Was in Puerto Rico with one of the wildest little niggas in the Little. He put him on the phone. The Little said, yo, we know you don't come to the hood in Puerto Rico, Joe. You we love you. We worship. Come. You are so safe here, Joe. I swear to God, these guys will die. They worship you. I was like, okay, Fif. You were one of the toughest niggas in Puerto Rico. Run the whole shit. A free chimney. He got on the FaceTime with me and said, fat Joe, you don't understand how much we love you here. We worship you. We know you don't come to the projects in the hood out here. Guess what? I know be seeing me there. No, I love you too. But you I'm not. You got to get out of there.

[G Herbo]

For sure.

[Fat Joe]

You got to.

[G Herbo]

And how he was saying like. Even when it kind of like bro. So that was smart bro like that. I ain't gonna say was. He is smart, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to social. He used to hit me. He hit me in a while. Since he got a couple more him, man.

[G Herbo]

So check in, man. My Sosa Rich is a man. Got an Instagram account for his cars. Okay. Like that, bro. To go to this. He made a decision to get the on gotta go. Gotta get away from that, bro. You gotta just get it.

[Fat Joe]

You know why everybody. It was a great weather for sure.

[G Herbo]

He did it first though.

[Fat Joe]

Hold on, let me say something.

[Joe Budden]

You gotta be brave cause they gonna be ill on this and that.

[G Herbo]

He dealt with all thatta there early.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Fat Joe moved to Miami 20 something years ago. One night I'm in Madison Square Garden, I'm headlining and I'm in my green room and I sit up on the fucking sink and I look and I'm like, holy shit. These are all killers. Like everybody there with me was like the.

[Joe Budden]

I thought you was gonna say sat on the sink and it broke.

[Fat Joe]

No, that's three Fat Joes ago. But let me explain something you. I looked at Joe's ago and that was one of the main reasons why I got out of New York. I was actually too powerful.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And you know everybody trying to prove to the big man that this. If I'd have sneezed at a dude, it got real ugly in there statement. I realized and I said, oh, I gotta get out of here. Start in Miami and wear silk shirts and they think I'm a nice guy. I never had a fight. I never had a one on one in Miami. I'm a nice law abiding. Citizen. I'm in Cipriani. Over there. Over here. This is. So I had to get up out of here. So I know the difference. You gotta go, you gotta get away. Because also a dude to force you to hurt him. They forced. I think there should be a law.

[G Herbo]

Hold up, hold up.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, G, it's a law. There should be a law where, hey, if you killed the guy, you killed him. You gotta do time. 10, 15 years. But if you knew this guy was killing the whole neighborhood. He was trying to extort me, shooting at my mother. This, this, this. And I killed him. I had no choice. Give me 15. Give me 10. 15 years. 10 years. Not life.

[Joe Budden]

Give me five.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, five.

[Joe Budden]

He needed to get out of there.

[Fat Joe]

But the point is, this guy. You know how many guys might have went in front of that judge and said, you, Honor, he. He forced me. Like, it was like, this guy won't stop.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

He's forcing me, like, for sure, bro. I seen some. Some dudes on some dudes. Yeah, they forced him. There's no way around it. There's no way around it. He forced you. Everywhere you go, he got a problem. He took. He wanted. He this, he this, that. Yo, we can't live. Somebody got to go.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, somebody got to go.

[Fat Joe]

Now, I think that should be almost like a. A body of passion or something.

[G Herbo]

A body of.

[Joe Budden]

It just don't work.

[G Herbo]

No, no, bulls.

[Joe Budden]

He.

[Fat Joe]

Body of passion.

[Joe Budden]

They got those crack. And you just get.

[Fat Joe]

You cannot do weight.

[Joe Budden]

What you get.

[G Herbo]

What you get for that? They under.

[Fat Joe]

Got that.

[Joe Budden]

You get under 25.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, can we listen to some.

[Fat Joe]

Listen to some tracks coming about some gang, like.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, no comment.

[Joe Budden]

A real.

[Fat Joe]

You can't come from Chicago and not talk about the real. You can't. We moving on?

[G Herbo]

Can't. You can't. You can't. For real. For real. Like, before we even play some shit, I'mma say, like, bro, like, to the capacity of the shit that we like, the shit we've been through and the shit we experience, like, just being here alone is a blessing. You feel what I'm saying? Just being able to be in this type of room and have these kind of guys be alive is a blessing.

[Fat Joe]

God is great.

[G Herbo]

Don't realize, like, I don't even know how many times I got shot at, you know what I'm saying? Like. Like, that niggas can't say that, bro. Like, I done got shot at so many times, and I'm still here. You feel me? Like, that is a blessing, bro. I'm telling you, you know, I wrote.

[Fat Joe]

A song two days ago, man, and I said, I got shot at a hundred times back in the day.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, a bullet. Look, you hear my manager. A bullet went through my hat before.

[Fat Joe]

Like, my hair back in the day. Like, you know, that's. That's what it is.

[G Herbo]

A bullet went through my head.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. I had a Christmas hat on the. That you stocking. And the bullet went through the Christmas stocking. You talking to the wrong guy. We beat a. Listen, I never been murdered Listen. That's a good one. Let me chase it, yo. That's the top five dead or a lot. We beat this guy up. Big, right? Big guy was 20 of us.

[G Herbo]

We.

[Fat Joe]

He ain't like him. We beat him up for no reason. In his club, it was called a Octagon. Not on 34th Street. It's on 33rd. You know how long that block is? So we come out, this guy was big, right? But we. We beat him up. When I come outside, he's outside, guys outside. He got like three or four dudes with him now, right? He immediately pulled that hammer out. You. I dare you now when you leave here, because two minutes away to drive. Yo, King. Drive through 33rd street with an octagon. What was that, 11 fath 11th Aven 10. And I dare you to see how long that block is. That was letting that go. Oh, this went through. This the Santa hat? Yeah. What is that hat stocking? Yeah, the Christmas hat hole went through the. This. That block is so long, you can't turn, you can't run, you can't.

[Joe Budden]

You can.

[Fat Joe]

Just gotta. Straight away, let's hear.

[G Herbo]

Nah, man, I got some. I won't play, man. Real quick, man. Let's go into. It's the first one.

[Fat Joe]

Play.

[G Herbo]

Yeah, play this play. Fallen Soldiers. Man, y' all gotta hear this. You definitely gotta hear this kid Frankie rocking that. Yeah, this, that. It's that right here. Who produces shots off in the air, man? Don Cannon. Don Kenny Cannon. Don Kenny. Don Cannon.

[Joe Budden]

Man.

[Lil Herb]

Since Juice World died, I ain't got nothing left. Since Pop smoke that, we ain't got nothing left. Since King Von died, we ain't got nothing left. Hard torn cold sweats TS Fall case oppressor Glock on me for protection, homies. Just a couple left.

[Fat Joe]

Falling soldiers.

[Lil Herb]

Veto Kobe. Capping rocks down on my block so the war never stopped I was still a team but I already seen a lot Told me I'd be stuck in my hood till I rock Knew I reached my dreams Cops told me I would not Spend my first rapping real talk me I should drop dead broke no way I'm making bail if I got caught but I ain't give a I still let my window down and shot I was going through a lot we out here spinning for my partners lo to my hood but I kept hurting my mama had to go on missions but I really wanted commas didn't.

[G Herbo]

Mean after we did it if I'm.

[Lil Herb]

Honest blood made us vicious I was swimming with piranhas murder after murder now this for like a plato sama till we call him like Obama cutting show emotion now I'm holding on made it out the trenches, now I live in Cali Tuck bulletproof the truck so I don't even got a duck lost my brothers felt like I was running out of luck paid for over 20 funerals still ain't run out of bucks Got my life plus I'm millions up, that's a plus Grippy tight will I up and bust, that's a must on site if he got the flux, that was us pass walk went off my waist to keep us safe cause I trust Baby D Dad I ain't got no.

[G Herbo]

Nothing left.

[Lil Herb]

Since Big I ain't got nothing left since L. Greg died hey, let this whole play man Play the.

[G Herbo]

Second verse real quick.

[Joe Budden]

Real quick, man.

[G Herbo]

Let the second verse play, man let this play through. Let this play through real quick.

[Lil Herb]

I ain't got nothing left Crank that since little Greg died I ain't got nothing left. Hard tor and cold sweats tears fall can't suppress them glock on me for protection homies just a couple left falling soldiers I was really in this standing clip interstate I can't be a hypocrite I was first in a whip swear to God we ain't going to sleep a homicide we do this every day like it's Ramadan put it on my mama I ain't never play out of bounds if you cross the line we make this the Columbine let her been signing on the dotted line. You would never catch me unless you're chasing dollar signs I done spent a hundred thousand a lot of times I louie for my kids but the pride of mine told them that I killed some dog gays I ain't lying Million dollars worth of J. Cause we gotta shine fingers stand on the trigger cause I miss my keep an extra 30 shots cause I should been with him checking in my seat I understand incidentals need collateral just in case Cause I could have did them going on a hit you better not have no feel if it go left, you better not cry no tilt Cops get behind us, you better not look in the rip, we gone Killers ain't complain about the trench, we strong soon.

[Joe Budden]

As little Herb go legit, we own.

[Lil Herb]

Finally got rich but it took mad long Where I'm from, everybody sing sad songs for real Since Seymour died, I ain't got nothing left. Since Mad Max died, I ain't got.

[Joe Budden]

Nothing left.

[Lil Herb]

Since Big Squad died, I ain't got nothing left. Hard torn, cold sweat he a small case oppressor Glock on me for protection Homies, just a couple left Falling soldiers Since Chico died, I ain't got nothing left. Since Bacon Soda died, I ain't got.

[Joe Budden]

Nothing left that's crazy right there.

[Fat Joe]

Since white folks died, I ain't got something that's premeditated. This man came up in here. He came on some, huh? You ain't no good for me. You spend a hundred thousand every week. I'm trying to find. The shop is anonymous. This guy spent a hundred thousand.

[G Herbo]

Mine.

[Fat Joe]

And let me tell you something. That's the best record I heard from you.

[Joe Budden]

And.

[Fat Joe]

And I've been listening to your. That right there. And you got some shit cannon, man. This guy Canon, Big bro.

[G Herbo]

That was strategic for sure. Big bro calling like.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but the shit you spit is legend. Is legend.

[G Herbo]

It's legend.

[Fat Joe]

You did your thing, man. And let me tell you something about this show and this couch right here. When we play shit, that shit go on another level, you know that. Motherfuckers tuned into that shit right there.

[G Herbo]

You know that. I ain't even trying to.

[Fat Joe]

To. I don't want to be a bot.

[Lil Herb]

I don't want to be a bug.

[G Herbo]

Play one mortal.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, we need that.

[Joe Budden]

Play that other sh. Go to the moon.

[G Herbo]

Play one more. You got to hear this.

[Fat Joe]

One chance. One chance.

[G Herbo]

One chance, man.

[Fat Joe]

Play this. Making me feel poor out here. Spend 100,000 a bunch of times, I'm like, God damn.

[G Herbo]

One chance.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[G Herbo]

The master of the song. That was hard, D. I beat all this, but I still carry women. For real, man. Sleep paralysis. Waking up out your sleep back to back. Cause you having nightmares. Have all four of them today. Couldn't even go to sleep for an hour straight. That's no battle. I ain't lying to you.

[Fat Joe]

I ain't running from this.

[Lil Herb]

I ain't tucking my tail. I ain't ducking from no ops. Only ducking the cell. I swear to God, I was 12. Started throwing up L's by the time I'm 14. One of my brothers got Killed like what? What else for me to do but get the in the field? Couldn't make my mama cry Started clutching and still he got a dub I was just a team with gil, already did 15 he like is a bill. What you know about old guns jamming up on the drill? What you know about using bleach cause you got blood in your nails? What you know about getting shot at 30 times and live? What you know about coming back cause you got something to sell? What you know about taking risks? Got a kite in the mail. What you know about printing Guys still might go to hell what you know about anything? What you know about dope lines? Got a serve 20F what you know about seeing real vivid but it's a dream just to get rich I had to shine a penny clean every day on hits we made movies, many scenes, really had knowledge, could have been plenty things could have been a lawyer or a doctor or a scholar Ended up in robin jeans popping up my collar Ended up on setting knife and asses, chasing dollars Ended up disappointing my mother, my father Then I chose rap after that, start making commas for real 20, 25 worth 30 mil I know how it happened though I had love for my brothers, couldn't hop in traffic though all summer long we was letting automatics go. Had to force my real dogs to take other avenues. It ain't about this we getting money out of music gang got a brain, gotta use it and you can't lose it. You get one chance and you got one chance in this hey, only one chance can't be with the double dancing and you got one life, one niche you get one shot, don't miss I don't give a what they saying to you Ain't no second chance in this had to make a way cause I'll be damn a statistic franchise player from the stands of the giant hardest me feet and inches I ain't chasing riches give a about out here tripping, freelancing and put the fan first Cause ain't no friends in this trauma in my heart I'm still paying for this I didn't really lost my real man to this I already lost my little brother to this. Every time I'm talking to my grams they get wicked PTSD I gotta drink just to kick it praying I don't crash cause the land worth it taking it so much bloodshed probably none that could fix it it then I'm r till I'm dying ain't no mixing if we go to war up the score we keep blessing president I innocent. He fall like I'm. You get it. You get one chance in it. You got one chance in this. Only one chance. Can't be with the devil dancing and you got one life, one niche. You get one, one shot. Don't miss. I don't give a what they said to you. Ain't no second chance in this.

[G Herbo]

Appreciate it, Ski, man. Appreciate this. I love you, Big.

[Joe Budden]

I love you.

[Fat Joe]

Woo.

[G Herbo]

Good looking.

[Fat Joe]

This ain't that.

[Joe Budden]

That ain't this. It's cracking. Kiss, make some noise for G. Herb. Oh, yeah. Little Herb is you out right now. All platforms, the hottest out right now.

[G Herbo]

Thank y', all, bro. I love y', all, man. I appreciate y'. All. I grew up my whole life watching you, bro.

[Joe Budden]

All this out right now. Straight no ID W clef juice work.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta listen to this thoroughly. You inspiring me right now.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out to Mal Deep. Their album is Fire.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out to Big L just dropped an album of collection to my brother.

[Joe Budden]

Royce the 5 9. Going through some medical issues, but we gonna be back.

[G Herbo]

We love you, Royce.

[Fat Joe]

For real.

[G Herbo]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. He executive produced the Big.

[Fat Joe]

I know he did, but he's going through some health. Yo, Royce, I love you, man. Thank you for everything you ever did for me, man. I just want you to know that you're a beautiful guy, man. You always took care of me. I love you. I'm gonna pray for you. I'm gonna put you in my prayer package. Definitely that album. Little Herb. Boy, I need that asap. Crazy out there.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you. Shout out to my boy ep, bringing Herb through, you know, I mean, you don't get his flowers enough. Ep. I love you, baby.

[Fat Joe]

What's up?

[Joe Budden]

We out of here. Let's take some flicks.

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