Podcast Summary: Joe and Jada – Ghostface Killah on 'Supreme Clientele 2' + Wu-Tang Clan & Raekwon Stories

Date: August 26, 2025
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jadakiss
Guest: Ghostface Killah
Network: iHeartPodcasts & The Volume

Episode Overview

This episode delivers an electric blend of nostalgia, humor, and real talk as hip-hop legends Fat Joe, Jadakiss, and special guest Ghostface Killah reminisce about legendary Wu-Tang moments, New York rap history, the making of 'Supreme Clientele 2', and more. Listeners get exclusive behind-the-scenes tales of the Wu, reflections on industry shifts, and a deep dive into the enduring bond between Ghostface and Raekwon.

Key Discussion Points

1. Fat Joe’s Birthday Bash & Hip-Hop Flexes

[06:20 – 11:00]

• Fat Joe shares a detailed rundown of his extravagant birthday party—complete with lobster, $5,000 bottles of champagne, and a watch tradition among friends.
• Humorous story of Jim Jones being antisocial at the party and Fat Joe’s lavish (and changing) outfits.
• The “auction” joke: Young guests started calling it “the unction” (a play on “uncle function”), poking fun at the age gap.
• Memorable quote:
  • Fat Joe: "If you ate lobster, you could. You had 20 lobsters, great fried chicken. You had 50 fried chickens. ... This was Tiffany. The 5,000 a bottle, it wouldn't stop. ... The cops come to my house five times..." [06:20]

2. Wu-Tang Clan Dynamics & Origins

[03:50 → 04:00 & 28:22 – 32:09]

• Fat Joe recalls performing with Wu-Tang in Manhattan when both were paid $500, amazed at how 13 group members could split that.
• Ghostface looks back at the early grind, fake $100 bills, and sleeping in a 15-passenger van—all part of the come-up.
• Quote:
  • Ghostface Killah: “Nah, I never looked at it because I knew he was gonna make it. … We got paid in hundred dollar bills. Yo, the bill was fake!” [29:14]

3. 'Supreme Clientele 2': Creative Process & Sound

[12:22 – 15:00; 43:00 – 44:24]

• Fat Joe & Jadakiss praise the new album for its raw energy—discussing secure listening links and a "meaner" sound from Ghost.
• Ghostface reveals that the aggression heard was organic, channeling the track’s energy. He also discusses hunting for the right beats and holding onto a few tracks for over 20 years to maintain the album's standard.
• Skit creativity: Ghostface talks at length about addressing the “pause” culture on a humorous skit.
• Notable exchange:
  • Fat Joe: “You don’t sound like normal Ghost in a way… I felt like angrier vibes…”
  • Ghostface Killah: “Sometimes you’re aggressive on tracks … certain tracks bring that out.” [14:16 – 14:53]
  • Ghostface Killah: “For this certain type of thing, I need beats that could just take me to give me a feeling.” [43:35]

4. Skits, Slang, and Hip-Hop Culture Evolution

[15:10 – 19:29]

• Detailed riff on “pause” culture and how hip-hop slang, jokes, and taboos have shifted over time.
• Ghostface explains the inspiration for the “pause” skit, highlighting generational disconnects and why it’s funny/informative to address on the album.
• Discussion about being called “the unction” and how young people roast the older generation at parties.

5. Ghostface & Raekwon: Their Chemistry

[53:15 – 55:25]

• Question from Jadakiss about how their legendary duo dynamic came to be.
• Ghostface explains it was naturally occurring—born out of shared backgrounds, daily life, and mutual respect.
  • “It just came from that… Something was there. It was just glue.” [54:18]
• Hilarious story of getting kicked out of Barbados and landing in Miami, where the creative energy for ‘Cuban Linx’ sparkled.

6. Wu-Tang on the Road: Group Dynamics Today

[58:55 – 60:38]

• The challenge of organizing shows/tours with so many strong personalities and family obligations.
• Ghostface on wanting to switch up the stage outfits and perform with fresh energy (“No more 1993”—aiming for “New Edition” vibes).
• Despite occasional disagreements, the end result is always powerful: “I felt like these days, this tour we just left was the best… in our life.” [60:24]

7. Legendary Wu Stories: Highs, Lows, and “Political Suicide”

[61:03 – 65:40]

• Fat Joe recalls being at Summer Jam during Wu’s infamous Hot 97 “blackout”—a moment of bravado that caused ripple effects across the country.
• Ghostface opens up about the backlash and learning the realities of radio politics.
• Internal debates about whether to “kiss ass” and play ball or stay rebellious.
• Quote:
  • Fat Joe: “I already knew, this is political suicide in the music industry. ... The whole country was like a domino effect.” [62:03]
  • Ghostface Killah: “That was the time when… everything Bad Boy, Bad Boy, we was just so down here.” [63:48]

8. Hip-Hop Authenticity & Social Media Clowns

[30:25 – 31:32]

• Spirited critique by Fat Joe of older rappers embarrassing themselves on social media to stay relevant.
• Ghostface: “So if you gonna start doing corny shit now, you was always corny. That’s it.” [31:12]

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jadakiss on the new album:
  “Make you feel like you in a park jam. It had me thinking about British walkers.” [12:30]
• Ghostface Killah:
  “When we came around… I don’t know, it just came. It just is. It was just glue.” [54:18]
• Fat Joe on the Wu-Tang grind:
  “Just going there, like just moving, you know what I mean? So we come from, we come from that shit.” [29:14]
• Fat Joe on skits:
  “If Ghostface did the skit for the Joe and Jada podcast…”
  Ghostface Killah:
  “You know what I mean? … We taking over this, man. Anybody say something, we go inside their head. Word.” [19:58 – 20:15]

Music & Live Listening Segment

[66:29 – 71:38]

• The trio listens to and discusses new tracks from 'Supreme Clientele 2' with Fourth Disciple.
• Lyrics dissected live—celebrating the storytelling and street detail in the music.
• Fat Joe emphasizes how they “needed one more verse”—showing genuine fan excitement.

Reflections on the Industry and Nostalgia

[35:00 – 39:00]

• Fat Joe muses on how Bruce Lee’s “ice grill” may have inspired the hip-hop tough guy aesthetic.
• Jokes around insuring his legs for $100 million—mirroring J.Lo’s famous insurance—leading to playful banter about aging in hip-hop.

Timestamps: Important Segments

• Birthday Party/Era Reflections: [06:20 – 11:00]
• Wu-Tang’s Early Struggles/Unity: [28:22 – 32:09]
• Supreme Clientele 2 Discussion: [12:22 – 15:00], [43:00 – 44:24], [66:29 – 71:38]
• “Pause” Skit Story: [15:10 – 19:29]
• Barbados/Miami & Cuban Linx Story: [54:21 – 55:25]
• Hot 97/Industry Politics: [61:03 – 65:40]
• Authenticity & Social Media Critique: [30:25 – 31:32]
• Group Chemistry/Touring Today: [58:55 – 60:38]

Final Words

Ghostface closes with love for doing albums, praises recent Wu-Tang tours, and leaves listeners eager to get their hands on ‘Supreme Clientele 2’. The episode is a masterclass in hip-hop storytelling, history, and brotherhood, brimming with classic New York attitude and humor.

Jadakiss: “Supreme Clientele 2. Make sure you get it on all platforms, wherever you get your music. Stop listening to that [other stuff] and listen to some real.”

Ghostface and Fat Joe (sign-off):

• “Wu-Tang Forever. Wu-Tang for the kids.” [72:02]

For Listeners

If you want:

• Real stories from the Wu-Tang days and New York in the '90s
• Firsthand accounts of hip-hop’s evolution and the wisdom of lifelong artists
• Laugh-out-loud moments and exclusive previews of Ghostface’s new work

Do not miss this episode!