Hitmaka on Yung Berg name change, Pharrell & Kanye, WILD rap industry stories

Summary

Joe and Jada Podcast: “Hitmaka on Yung Berg Name Change, Pharrell & Kanye, WILD rap industry stories”

Host: Fat Joe and Jadakiss
Guest: Hitmaka (fka Yung Berg)
Date: October 21, 2025
Platform: iHeartPodcasts & The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode features multi-platinum producer Hitmaka (formerly Yung Berg), diving into his evolution in the industry, legendary collaborations, wild behind-the-scenes stories, and brutally honest takes on what it takes to make it and stay winning in hip-hop. Through rapid-fire real talk, the trio celebrates major milestones, reflects on the ups and downs of music careers, name changes, the competitive producer game, and the stakes of entrepreneurship and reinvention.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hitmaka’s Evolution: From Yung Berg to Industry Powerhouse

• Early grind & transformation: Hitmaka shares his journey from being Yung Berg to rebranding as Hitmaka, shedding light on stories of self-production, early co-signs, and why the name change became both necessary and inevitable.
  • Quote: “People don’t know the long form of my career… I was the n***a DMX used to go sick on… then became Young Berg, now I’m just like a heavy stepper as Hitmaka.” (12:47)
• Catalyst for the name change: Hitmaka credits Rico Love for pushing him to leave ‘Young Berg’ behind.
  • Quote: “Rico Love was actually the person who made me change my name to Hitmaka.” (28:56)

2. Creating the ‘Cheat Code’ for Hits

• High-output, high-intensity sessions: Hitmaka details his near-mythical productivity, explaining that he doesn’t just have beats—he has smashes ready, and that’s why artists come to him.
  • Quote: "I’m the walking, talking cheat code... I don’t play beats. I’m playing you a smash." (05:32)
• Producer as ‘Professional Life Changer’:
  • Quote: “I ain’t a producer no more. I’m a professional life changer... you gonna owe me a gift, brother.” (33:10)
• Financial realities: $50,000 per song isn’t unusual for artists seeking that ‘instant hit’ from Hitmaka. (05:32)

3. Inspirations & Producer Competition

• Idols and influences: Hitmaka’s top 5 producers: Jermaine Dupri, Kanye West, No I.D., Timbaland, Pharrell. Notes he’s never worked with Pharrell—still a dream.
• Producer peaks and comebacks: Fat Joe recounts witnessing both Timbaland and Pharrell’s “cold” periods, and how resilience brought them back—emphasizing the cyclical nature of the game.
  • Quote: “I watched the same thing happen to Pharrell in Miami when he got cold... Now this guy’s running Louis Vuitton.” (07:13)
• Competitive drive: No one, says Hitmaka, is “fucking with him,” boasting about the volume of hits he's currently sitting on.
  • Quote: “Nobody has more hits in their phone than me right now.” (11:37)

4. Real Industry Stories (and Why You Never Cheat the Game)

• Fat Joe on industry ‘cheating’:
  • Quote: “In this game, it ain’t no cheating the game... you gotta go in that studio, you gotta let your life out.” (04:30)
• Stories of overlooked talent, viral interviews, and authenticity:
  • Hitmaka defends his reputation for “transparency,” including his viral interview with Cam Newton, acknowledging discomfort and the pressure to feed public curiosity.
    • “I’m not a kiss-and-tell type dude... That’s what the people want. They want to know all your business.” (14:40)
• The importance of being liked: Fat Joe emphasizes you can have talent but it’s all about if “the people gotta like you.” (15:45)
• Wild investment stories: Fat Joe tells how, after blowing through millions, he literally had to hunt down debts from friends.
  • “I went to the bank... It’s no money in here. I walked out like I had a hole in my head like a dolphin.” (66:16)

5. Business Independence & Reinvesting

• Going Independent: Fat Joe discusses why he chose independence—retaining creative control, spending big to keep up the image, and never looking back.
  • “I put up my own money... paid for my videos, samples, everything." (44:41)
• On video budgets:
  • “You gotta act like the pure still there. The cut is there... you have to look like nothing changed.” (46:02)
• Investing and building generational wealth:
  • “My new thing is, I want to buy my son a franchise so he won't keep asking me for money.” (70:46)

6. Spotlight on New Projects & Artist Development

• Upcoming releases: Hitmaka promotes DreamDoll’s new EP, Ty Dolla $ign album, Ronnie’s project, and executive producing for Gilly’s daughter, New York La.
  • “She’s outta here... For the EP, I put Clue all over it... real New York shit.” (32:08)
• Changing the system: Hitmaka reveals plans to return to a major label in an executive role, encouraging other producers to step inside the building for real artist development. (83:10)

7. Style, Success, and Staying Fresh

• Flexing through fashion: Long segments riff on the importance (and expense) of showing up as a boss—watches, furs, Goyard, and going “unconscious” with fresh fits.
  • Quote: “If you into your fashion shit, don’t come. It’s gonna be unconscious.” (62:03)
• Being ‘fatphobic’ and growing up poor: Fat Joe reflects on his roots and why he’ll always enjoy shitting on the haters.
  • “I grew up shit poor... Don’t tell me about this poor shit ever in your life... you gonna catch this shit till I’m in the casket.” (64:01)

8. Deals, Catalog Sales, and Major Moves

• Catalog sale: Hitmaka confirmed he recently sold half his catalog, describing it as a moment of “another glow.” (80:34)
• Advice on building opportunities: Fat Joe laments never being handed a label exec position, so he created his own ventures—from upNYC to Sonrisa Rum and Kiss Café.
  • “Nobody has come with the bag for years... I had to make it all on my own.” (81:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Fat Joe: “In this game, it ain’t no cheating the game. … You gotta go in that studio, you gotta let your life out.” (04:30)
• Hitmaka: “I’m the walking, talking cheat code... I don’t play beats. I’m playing you a smash.” (05:32)
• Fat Joe (on being transparent): “You cut so many records… what they don’t realize is: the people gotta like you.” (15:45)
• Jadakiss (on the industry): “If you don’t [feel like you’re the best], you in the… you should see it.” (11:34)
• Fat Joe (on money): “I spent $400,000 on videos. Shut down LIV, the ceiling come down the fucking mansions, that this. Cause you have to look like nothing changed.” (46:02)
• Hitmaka: “I ain't a producer no more. I’m a professional life changer.” (33:10)
• Fat Joe: "Nobody has come with the bag for years...I had to make it all on my own." (81:16)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:28 — Jadakiss & Fat Joe introduce Hitmaka
• 05:32 — Hitmaka on being the “cheat code” for hits
• 06:23 — 350 million+ records sold, 18 #1 radio hits (Hitmaka stats)
• 12:47 — Hitmaka reflects on the full arc of his career
• 28:56 — Rico Love told him to change his name; the “Hitmaka” origin story
• 32:08 — DreamDoll’s come-up & new projects
• 44:41 — Fat Joe on independence and self-investment
• 66:16 — Fat Joe’s broke moment and debt-collection story
• 80:34 — Hitmaka talks about selling half his catalog
• 83:10 — Back to “the building”: Hitmaka to return to an executive role at a label
• 90:01 — Claiming dominance: “At one moment, I had 13 of the 40 top urban radio songs.”
• 62:03 / 64:01 — “If you into your fashion shit don’t come...” and Fat Joe’s “from nothing to the top” speech

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Final Notes

• Style and Substance: Beyond the jokes about diamond watches and mink coats, the episode brings real talk about resilience, the challenges behind the success, and the need to adapt in both music and business.
• Culture Drivers: The trio longingly (and humorously) point out how their moves echo through the industry, feeding content to others and shaping the conversation—on air, in music, and beyond.
• Celebration & Toast: The latter part of the episode doubles as a celebration of new projects, the success of “Let Me Explain,” and a toast to grinding “till the casket.”

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This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the real mechanics of hip-hop success—from the grind, reinvention, and behind-the-scenes power moves, to the hard lessons about the game that only veterans can give.

Transcript

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

He is TS by the way. And he's protected by the Almighty. I'mma be honest with you. See where he came out. Why you want me to do.

[Jadakiss]

He would never made it to DS without two Rs.

[Fat Joe]

Ooh, thank you.

[Jadakiss]

Foreign.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, what up, y'? All. This your boy, Joe Crack the dawn.

[Jadakiss]

It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we never not deliver. Speaking of delivery, our next guest, I know him for years since he living in Miami now. I knew him since he was a jit. How they say down there? You know what I mean? I watched him, you know what I mean? He was part of my family. He's still a part of my family. Then he grew on and do his own things. Ever since then he just been Collecting plaques, collecting diamonds, buying property. Buying Rolls Royces. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for my man, Hit Maker. Yes, sir.

[Fat Joe]

Get it? Somebody I could say in this industry of fakers and vultures and pieces of shits, one guy I could say who's really loyal, don't get mistaken by him. You know, every interview, he bound to say some shit today, right? Every interview, he go crazy. You might think he just talk shit, but this man is a loyal guy. The one and only hit banker.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yes, sir.

[Fat Joe]

Yohead, let me tell you something. You know when I'm sitting there and I'm looking at all them diamonds and shit? No, I never told you. But I'll be watching you. Because you know, I got serious collections. And I see you, man, if I got a watch nobody could get, that's cost a house in Atlanta, he pull up a month later and be like, yo, a new one. Every shit, every watch, he'll bust that bitch. I'll be like, yeah, yeah. I take it as flattery, but I'm also happy that I see my brother come up and do what he like to do. The problem I got with Hitmaker.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, shit. With my flag problem.

[Fat Joe]

I'm on your side. That's the flag already. I'm on your side.

[Jadakiss]

Get ready.

[Fat Joe]

But in this game, it ain't no cheating the game.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And some artists think they could cheat the game. You gotta go in that studio, you gotta let your life out. You gotta put in that pain, that passion. You don't know how many artists, some of y' all call Hitmaker for me. He gonna give me a hit. Like, you come across that, right? Everybody who sit down think you're giving them a free hit, right?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Sure, for sure. I mean, ain't nothing free, my brother. Only for y'. All.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? What I mean is, they don't want to put in that pain. Stay in that studio night and day. Don't change your clothes. This, this, this. That's how I'm accustomed to making hits, for sure. You lock yourself in six months and you in there every day, and you don't come out and you don't give a fuck. The most you do is watch a game. You come out with some hits. I've heard more than 20 different artists that I respect and I know, tell me, yo, I'm gonna just go see Hitmaker and get a hit. They think it's like that.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

It is like that, though. I'm the walking, talking cheat code. Like, I go to the studio, I give BB Hell at Circle house six days a week. I go there and work until I can't work no more, until I'm ready to drive home. And then the reality is, when you come see me, you come get a hit. I don't play beats. I'm playing you a smash. You fill in the blanks. You go do what you need to do. It's the alley oop of all alley oops when you come see me. So that's why people be like. I've heard executives say, like, man, like, you ain't no real A and R. You just sent your artist to hitmaker. He did all the A and R shit for you. He got the feature on the song. He got the hook. He got this shit already done. Like, what did you do? But, I mean, that's why they pay me like 50 grand a record, man.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something, man. I watch it. You come up and, man, it's a beautiful thing to see. How many records sold now?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

350/Something million.

[Colin Coward]

Hmm.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I got 18 number ones at radio, 27 billion streams, something like that. I don't know.

[Fat Joe]

The only guy I've seen with numbers like that is Jermaine Dupree, one of my idols.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I love him.

[Fat Joe]

Who are your idols in doing this, man?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

J.D. as far as producers, only J.D. kanye, of course. Cause I'm from Chicago, no I.D. damn. I guess Timbaland Pharrell round that out. Top five. I never worked with Pharrell yet. That's gonna be interesting. We finally have a no. That's gonna be interesting. He made happy in one of the rooms in Circle House that I work in all the time. I'm like, yo, I'm still trying to get that happy. You know what I'm saying? Energy, boy. Yo, that was a different type of record.

[Fat Joe]

I'm gonna tell you some crazy shit, right? This is crazy. Cause I love both of them, and they both beyond historical producers. Cause we talking producers. You know, I was there when Timbaland went cold, and Scott Storch was right next door, had cheese lines down the block. LL Cool J, this one and that one. Whoever was hot was online with Scott Storch, and Timbo was sitting in the front of the studio and look at all the rappers. Act like he wasn't Timbo the King. I watched the same thing happen to Pharrell in Miami when he got cold, I used to go there. He used to be like, yo, Joe, come tell me stories. He has all these stories that I tell on here ahead of time. He knew I was the story King, yo, tell me your stories. I'm sitting with them when they cold. Now this guy's running. Fucking Louis Vuitton biggest guy happy this, this, that. But I remember Timbo, he wasn't mad at Scott Storch. He just be like, don't worry, I'm coming with some shit. I'm coming. And then that boy cracked that code. I'm bringing sexy back. Yeah.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, I'm not your mommy, Mommy, mommy. Boy, him and that Danger Hands.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yes, sir. Salute to you.

[Fat Joe]

Changed the whole fucking sound. And I'm guilty because, you know, I've been around a long time. Danger Hands came one time to DJ Khaled's studio in the house and played me some beats. They were too futuristic for me at the time. And I was just like, you know. And, boy, he turned into Danger Hands.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yo, I. Yo, can I tell you a story?

[Fat Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I think that one New Year's Eve, after we did that record, I think that you. Cause, you know, I'm TS to the death of me, you know what I'm saying? I'm mad. I ain't got my TS chain here, too. I should have brought it, but I.

[Fat Joe]

Think that's the real one.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yo, this man Joe did some shit that was so insane. It was me. It was at DJ Khaled's New Year's Eve party. You invited me, I came with you. It was me, you, Diddy, and Khaled. And this nigga Joe was like, there's Diddy, there's DJ Khaled, and now it's Hit Maker. And you said that shit. I'm like, damn, that was just like, one of the biggest compliments ever. I think you started beef with me and Khaled right then there at his house, too.

[Fat Joe]

Well, he don't have no beef with you.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

He can't but his brother.

[Fat Joe]

But what I'm saying to you is the competition cut from the family tree when it comes to producing and making hits. So I've been a guy that whether I make a dollar with you or not, I'm true to the culture. So if I said that, I meant that, you know, And I'm just letting them know, like, yo, he's coming from that family tree of hit makers, you know? And, you know, respect the kid. The kid coming up, be on the lookout for him. And that's what I probably did. But beef with Khaled, Kel, is he has no beef with you.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

No, no, I'm talking about competitive. Competitive. You know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no. Everybody's competitive in this game. Everybody think the best. We just had Wale right there. You didn't hear him, but he said he's the best. Very quietly, he was like, yo, I'm.

[Jadakiss]

He said he's in the top rapper talk of. Is what he said.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Of all time.

[Fat Joe]

No. Yes.

[Jadakiss]

He just said, I'm in top rap. He was playing some new music and he said, I'm in that top rapper talk should feel like that playing this new project. And I heard it. Just let it.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You ain't feel no way when he said it. Cause it's top five that I lied.

[Jadakiss]

I don't.

[Fat Joe]

No, no.

[Jadakiss]

My shit. His shit is in cement. My shit's in cement.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out my man. Shout out my man. Stevie Jackson, man. I seen him take a picture. They had a fucking George Floyd statue. George Floyd's bigger than the building. And Steve, you know, he NBA. He looked like a midget.

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[Fat Joe]

I mean. And that was his brother. This guy statued up for sure. Like, we. He don't take none of the guys that got a. They actually gonna make him taller in the statue. You know, we not worried about that. But the man did mumble that shit under his breath.

[Jadakiss]

His typewriter talk. He's supposed to feel. That's what you're supposed to do.

[Fat Joe]

I guess we all feel that way.

[Jadakiss]

If you don't. You in the. You know, you should see it.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I don't think nobody fucking with me. And, like, I could prove it. I love talking that shit. Nobody's fucking with me. Nobody has more hits in their phone than me right now. I will out. There's not a producer walking this planet.

[Jadakiss]

Earth right now being one for my son.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Of course, bro. Yo, listen, who you want? Leon Thomas. Who do you want on the hook? I mean, what is.

[Fat Joe]

It's here, it's done.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

It's in my phone right now.

[Fat Joe]

Adverse Vegas.

[Jadakiss]

See what I'm saying? See, the producers, y' all get a lot of. Y'. All. Y' all dealing with different finances. So y' all don't. Y'.

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[Fat Joe]

Y'. All.

[Jadakiss]

Competitive nature stays just that. And y' all see each other buying helicopters and doing. You know what I mean? But coming from the rapid shit is a different thing. But your formula, though, over the past fucking. I don't know how much years.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

About 10.

[Fat Joe]

10 years?

[Jadakiss]

Yeah. You've been hitting them out the park consecutively. And I don't know how that's making people fit. It should make anybody feel good because it used to be a lot of doors to go to when you making a project, you can be like, yo, that was. The window is closing, man.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

They gotta feel good about this shit. Because in reality, bro, like, I'm still. I'm Iceberg, I'm Youngberg. It's just. I'm hit making now, bro. Like, people don't know the long form of my career. Like, they got to see it in real time. Like, I'm literally like, people will be like, I was the N that DMX used to go sick on. N. Like, yo, go, go get em. I remember rapping with Cassidy and being at Powerhouse while you cutting records and being around PK and Swizz beats. Like, I got that type of career. And then I became Youngburg on my own thing. Now I'm just like a heavy stepper as hitmaker. Like, I ain't gonna lie. Like, it's hit, like, talk this shit. Astronomical type of different things. You know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

I watch you on interviews, and you talk about chicks. You smash this. This. Yo, you really are transparent out here.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I don't. I can't lie.

[Jadakiss]

Speaks very clear.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

And it's on the Internet that I smashed these girls when I'm supposed to be in it. If Cam Newton asked me some bullshit, and he set me up with that. And y' all know that interview was done eight months ago. Somebody just recycled that clip and made that shit go viral again. But they set me up with that. Like, we did the whole interview, and then at the end, he like, you want to play a game show? And it was almost like, who have you fucked? Like, the game show. It should have been the title of it. And he just rapid fire, names, names. If y' all look at the clip. I was kind of uncomfortable when he was asking me, but I'm just like, I just met you an hour ago, Cam. Why you need to know all my bodies?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, man, that man can't he one of them traitors. Like, he's. He's one of those. He hit chicks, too, so I don't mean in that way. I mean, like, he one of them guys. He feel he hit mad chicks, so he.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

He was trying to make sure I ain't hit none of his work. That's really what it was.

[Fat Joe]

That's exactly what it was.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, you can save that for off camera, though.

[Fat Joe]

Not a hat. You could have saved that off camera, right?

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, you rather than Max you that off the camera. Yeah.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I ain't know where it was going, cuz I'mma be honest.

[Fat Joe]

Y.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

It did feel lame. Like, I. I'm I'm not a kiss and tail type, dude. Yeah, I mean, it's up. Like, that's what the people want. Like, they want to know all your business. They want to know what you ate for breakfast this morning. They want to know how many Diet Cokes you done had. And it's a 2:30. They want to know everything, bro.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, they do. And we hope they happy for us. You know what I'm saying? Cause we out here, what people don't realize is that our jobs is a service. Service to people, to the people. We making the people happy. You went out to Virginia, you bodied that shit. But you know how many people in the crowd. You're their favorite rapper. You made them happy. They went home happy. You provide music to this, yo, that's my song, you know? And we're just providing a service. I always say, the people don't like you. That's you. You cut so many records with so many singers, with so many reference artists that never made it as big as they should because they talented. But what they don't realize is the people gotta like you.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Facts.

[Fat Joe]

And that's the crazy part of it. You know what I mean? But they, you know, we hope everybody's happy for us because we share our lives with, you know. Tonight I'm getting an award at the Hip Hop Museum.

[Jadakiss]

You and somebody else, right?

[Fat Joe]

I don't know.

[Jadakiss]

I seen it. I think I got invited.

[Fat Joe]

You should come through. Eat some lobster and steak and shit.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yo.

[Fat Joe]

And then, you know, it's like, is.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

It Tiffany, Ace of Spades there?

[Fat Joe]

Nah, it's Tiffany, Ace of Spades. That's all we do. We live a fucking life. I go over my Amex belt. Shit. Disrespectful. Just restaurants.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Put you out the business. Yo, I called them 92 rappers. If they saw my Amex bill, unbelievable. What? They will commit suicide. They'll pass out raises and be like, all right, everybody together.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I know you're filthy. Cause I called. No, no, no, look, I called Joe Crack. I'm begging him. Yo, I got some heat on for you. I got some heat to the side for you. He like, hitmaker. I'm in Dubai trying to live a life, man. I'm like, the nigga just skipped all the way over the record.

[Fat Joe]

He like, you know what happens, Hitmaker, is when you get as old as me. Okay, I'm gonna give you my beginning of the speech. There's a new. You know, I'm very. I'm very into God and religion in my relationship with the man. But I've got a new prayer that starts my prayer every morning. God, thank you for my eyes that I'm able to see. God, thank you for my nose that I can smell. Thank you for my mouth that I could eat and I could talk. These simple things right here. If you think about how important that shit is that he gives us the opportunity to get up another day, it's out of control. So I'm at, you know, recipes. D', Angelo, rest in peace. The man was Coc Diesel. I've been fat my whole life. I'm keeping it a buck. No, no, I'm just saying to you, it's like, yo, I gotta appreciate every day. I'm at the point where when I wake up in the morning, I peek to see the sun and be like, oh, God.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yo, I'm a fan of this show. Coc Diesel is one of them. You can't say that no more. Coc Diesel is. And you love to say it.

[Fat Joe]

Flagrant.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yo, you love that. You love it so much. Pause.

[Fat Joe]

You too, huh? This show is like fucking Eddie Murphy, Beverly Hills Cop. It's one of them shits with my partner. Shits on me every day. It's unbelievable, you know, now you got people said, Jadakiss don't even believe him. That's why he throws the face. He throws it like you got a little shit going on out there. Were you giving the suckers some content? You know what I mean? Cause we got blood. Well, you could throw another one. We got blood suckers.

[Jadakiss]

He threw his own.

[Fat Joe]

They hold through his own. They whole shit is based off what we talking about.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

True.

[Fat Joe]

And so that's how I know how we drive in the culture is when you got other guys like, okay, what Jadakiss say, have anything sound like Kiss to sign right here. It's the same way in the podcast. I watch guys wait till a new podcast come, and they fake think they lit and they go on right about what we say, and they got a problem with it or they agree or they whatever. So we giving them. We feeding them content. You know what I'm saying? So it is what it is, brother. The flags. It's okay, you know, I know what I'm doing. I'm into getting money.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, we know.

[Fat Joe]

A whole lot of money. I'm not even gonna lie to you guys. And so we in this podcast game. Motherfucker came out of jail. Fabio. Foreigner said, no, save the records. Hitmaker. I'm a stream. Streaming. He told you podcast. No, no, I'm not saying that, but he said they asked him, he came out of jail. I don't know if you've seen that little video clip. And they said, you go in the studio. No, I'm streaming. I'm streaming. It got to be a reason. That's where the bag's at. The podcast, the streaming. That's where the bag's at. So you see me in it, you may laugh. And I'm here to entertain you. I told you, we provide a service, but just laughs. That Glizzy Talk is going to turn into so many M's. And I'm gonna say thank you for loving the Glizzy Talk. Thank you.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Joe gonna be the spokesperson for Oscar Mayer.

[Fat Joe]

Like, I will change. Get on the subrets. Yo, but I'm true. I'm. Listen, bro, I'm true to what I say. You say, cap, I went to the Yankee game the other day. I mean, glizzies, the guy next to me is eating steak, lobster, crab, clam. You know the Yankees, they got some shit. They got a. Like a club. You've been in there, right? Steak, lobster, this, this, this. I'm Glizzy mania. Little mustard. I don't give a fuck.

[Jadakiss]

Little mustard. Yo.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, little mustard. We going to the awards later. My wife try to cook me all type of shit when we had a yes. It might just give me a couple of glizzies, man. I'd be I. Then we'll go to awards show. Maybe we something over there. I don't give a fuck.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Is it nostalgic? Like, what is it with the. I don't want to say that word.

[Fat Joe]

About I'm not phobia. Stayed away. Hold on. That is your. How about I'm not phobic. You know, I'm cool with some gay guys. Just like really gay.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Okay, okay.

[Fat Joe]

ATL's finest. And I'm in the Essence Fest. I don't know no better. I'm in the golf cart. I see my man, Ms. Lawrence. I'm like, yo, Lawrence, I jump. These guys are like, you know, they holding up the flag in another level. His friends are looking like, yo, Fat Joe, the gangster rapper jumping off the. I don't give a fuck if you my brother and I love you. I don't give a fuck.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

For sure.

[Fat Joe]

So I'm jumping off the car. Yo, Lawrence, what's up? Yeah, yo, I don't give a fuck if I say glizzy. I know who I am as a man. I don't care about none of that shit. None of that shit bother me, man.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Certain Shit just don't sound right though. So, like I feel you, like I know you older. Say I'm done with the pause gang, the Paul's police and all the other shit. But like that, certain stuff don't sound right.

[Fat Joe]

Certain shit sound crazy, huh?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Sounds unbelievable. You see the flat X? They out.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, they out.

[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Let me tell y' all a crazy story. Joe Crack story, right?

[Fat Joe]

So crazy.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

No, no, no, no. Never, never. So I remember I was like in a weird spot in my career, like trying to figure out how I'm feeling, like. Cause the whole time when I was youngberg, I was producing all my records too. Like people don't know that, but I was like, man, I was in a weird Spot. Rico Love was on fuego at the time. And so Rico Love, I hit him on Twitter in a dm and he like, yo, come meet me at the London Hotel in la. I'm in la, I went up to the London hotel and we having breakfast. And like, he on Big Boy shit. Three phones going jumping at the same time. You remind me of me right now. I'm like, golly, like, this nigga's insane. So as we eating breakfast, I thought this was like a super, like, wow move. Not like that, but he was like, yo, what do you think about changing your name? And I'm like, huh? I'm like, n. I'm young, bro. I'm more famous than Rico Love. You know what I'm saying? Like, he said that to me, and I was like, maybe I'll consider that. He like, yo, come to Miami. And he works out the room I work out of now in Circle House. He like, yo, come to Miami. Just vibe with me for a little bit. I came down there. So I walk in the Circle House, and I think Joe and Rico are doing a record called Aloha. Some shit like that or whatever. The nigga Rico Love said, fat Joe, he said, joe, meet my friend Christian. Joe said, n, that's Young Burke.

[Fat Joe]

Who the fuck is Christian? I'm like, yo.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

But like, that was the evolving. And Rico Love was actually the person who made me change my name to Hitmaker.

[Jadakiss]

That's ill. Wow.

[Fat Joe]

That's ill. You know, Rico's my brother. Still love him to this day. He was a little arrogant at that time.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

He was.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah. He was like, cocky as fuck. Like, you know, I walk out the room with artists and they be like, yo, this nigga's cocky. Like, yo, but he gonna give you the hit. You know, my shit, it reminds me of. Well, Rico Love, my brother. I love you, man. God bless it. Remind me of the night we cut. Yes, he had the song. But you just. You came in the studio. This guy was so drunk, bro. Listen to me, man. And he. He made it a hit. The way he was chopping it up. This, this, this. So everybody came. I was like, yo, Joe, the guy spilling champagne on the board. Them boards cost a half a million, sir. He's spilling champagne. He out of control. This, this I see. Yo, listen, he's a hit maker. Let this man do whatever he did. The motherfucker. That night you was on your Rick James shit. Yeah, for real. And I was just, like, telling everybody, yo, just let him do what he gotta do. Sure enough, that was the last hit I dropped, yes. We got a plaque for that shit.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

And it was Cool and Dre's studio. And you are loyal to Cool and Dre. So the fact that you even let me touch the record while we was there was like a real thing. And I was Wilding and Kool and Dre studio, too.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not gonna lie to you. You're one guy that didn't grow up with us. That he is TS by the way, and he's protected by the Almighty. I'm going to be honest with you. When he came out, why you want me to do.

[Jadakiss]

He would have never made it to DS without duos. Ooh.

[Fat Joe]

Thank you. Okay, what I'm saying is TS TS Know how to hate on each other. They never hate on this guy. Every time I'm working on a project, he said, yo, Dre, be like, yo, you saw Hitmaker. I swear to God. Now there's other producers that I'm cool with and all that. They be like, yo, Joey, do that. Yo, Joey, this, this, this. They never devalue. They always like, yo, go see that.

[Jadakiss]

He started off getting the hate. I think right now it's undeniable.

[Fat Joe]

They.

[Jadakiss]

They can't do that. He stands in. They know when you come from seeing him, the next stop is the charts.

[Fat Joe]

You gotta spit the right shit to it, and you gotta do everything. Oh, no.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

You can't just go there and not know how to do nothing and ask a knocking beat with a great hook with nothing.

[Fat Joe]

So many rappers told me, yo, all.

[Jadakiss]

I gotta do is go see Hitman.

[Fat Joe]

I said, I swear to God, I've heard this out the mouth. Y' all gonna see Hitmaker. Like, man, you better put that pain in. You better make sure that pen is right. You better make sure you appreciate what you got. You know, somebody I've seen you work with who I love, and I've watched her career from day one. She from the Bronx, too. I think she could be a superstar's dream dog.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Wow. Shout out to Dream.

[Fat Joe]

She could be a superstar. I've been waiting for it.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Well, I signed Dream Dog Cats out the bag or whatever. Yeah, yeah. We got a new project that's done. It's completed. We dropping an EP first. Um, so we dropping an EP first. Top of the year. And I'm. When I tell you, my brother, she's better than a lot of these girls, like this music that we have. Oh, my God. And she has crazy features. The work is done. Project's done. And I brought back the nostalgia. Like for the ep, we got some shit, nigga, I put Clue all over it. Cluminati like, it's like on some real New York shit. I flipped all the right New York records. Trust me, my brother, she's outta here.

[Fat Joe]

She going, that's what she needed then. Because I watched her, I didn't even understand it. Like, I watched her career. The whole time I'm saying, yo, this girl should be number one. And it's all a matter of linking up with the right producer who got the passion at the right time. Seeing her in your studio, I was like, all right, he giving us some shit now she gotta deliver. That's it.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You say she delivered, then that's when overly delivered. I ain't a producer no more. I'm a professional life changer. And that's really what I'm not going by. It's too many producers out there. So when you come see me, you gonna owe me a gift, brother. You want me to.

[Fat Joe]

You know, when the dog let me take this off. Nah, you making it sound like you. Like I need to be seeing what's in the pot over there.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Cause the man talking to you know what's beautiful? It's only an aux quarter, right?

[Fat Joe]

Tell all my friends I like this. Tell them all I love it.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I got the gifts, man. I'm coming.

[Jadakiss]

Iced out. Diet Pepsi. Yo.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You Ozempic or Diet Pepsi this year for Halloween.

[Fat Joe]

Ozempic. I'm Ozempic. Every Halloween, I'm Ozempic. I might go with Govi. You know what? I got a problem. I'm gonna talk about this because we talking about the world nuts, dawg. They announced, right? I'm in la. They announced that Costco. Listen clear, guys, because we are the voice of the streets and the culture. Costco now sells Ozempic half the price to anybody who don't have insurance.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, wow.

[Jadakiss]

Over the counter.

[Fat Joe]

It's not true. I went to the Costco in LA to buy some Ozempic because I left my shit back in Jersey. And they said, that's few places out the curtain. There's some bullshit. It was all over cnn, all over the news, all over. Costco is selling Ozempic half price over the counter. You don't even need insurance. I walked into Costco la. Y' all saw me.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, y' all saw me. They didn't have it.

[Fat Joe]

They didn't. They was like, no, you need a prescription. No, we don't do that in this Costco. That's false advertisement. Guys, get on your shit. No, I Had to come back home and freshen up.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

He said he ain't want the stepped on Ozempic, he ain't want the pure.

[Fat Joe]

You want the three Fat Joes or you want the one Fat Joe? Another thing I do as soon as I go out the country, because over here, Ozempic cost 1200. Whoa, right? With insurance and everything. When I go to Dubai, Santo Domingo, wherever, it costs $320. That's the wildest shit. How could an American product you buy.

[Jadakiss]

You could buy this, the Domingo and all of them.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, B, I buy it, you ship it back. Five, ten thousand dollars worth of Z. I'm not selling it, guys. It's for me and whoever needs it. Somebody ran out of old zempic, they come to my house. We tossed.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yo, bro, I'm surprised.

[Fat Joe]

Ozempic keep everybody sturdy.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yo, though, the Ozempic should stop the glizzies, though.

[Jadakiss]

How you still got the.

[Fat Joe]

Craving for glitz and you on the zempi. What I'm trying to tell you, they.

[Jadakiss]

Gotta make levels.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Okay?

[Fat Joe]

There's levels to it, man. It's levels to it. But what I'm saying is, you know, you got. I am Ozempic for Halloween once again. You know, that's my outfit.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

What does it do, though? It just make you not want to eat as much. First of all, I have diabetes, okay?

[Fat Joe]

But I've had it since I'm 12 years old, okay? Right. So now I've been taking insulin for many, many years. Insulin, you know, you take it daily and it, you know, your pancreas, if we want to get technical, don't let out enough to. To cover your sugar. So you need insulin to make sure, you know. But they invented an Ozempic that does it once a week. You don't have to take that shit. That was pretty horrible, taking insulin twice a day, right? And that's the only way to regulate the sugar, otherwise you die. So a lot of people that we see that just die. They don't admit to themselves that they're diabetic and they don't take the medicine. And sooner or later that shit gets real and they find all kind of kidney failure, distances, whatever. Ozempic regulates that shit like a computer, all week long. So if you eat too much, it'll bring down to the normal sugar. If you eat too less, it'll bring it to the normal sugar. It's insane.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, shit.

[Fat Joe]

The technology in Ozempic, I'm not going to lie to you, is AI type shit. It's insane. We've Been waiting for that. And so it's also the side effect of Ozempic is you lose weight. I don't think they made it. They made it for diabetes, but it curbs your appetite to where you lose weight. So a lot of people started taking it for diabetes. And then, you know, you got the sexy. Women want to stay sexy. They like, whack, whack. They hit. They. This ain't even the needle. It's the smallest. And you could be scared of needles, and still this ain't nothing. Boom, you good for the week. You don't know how many people, like I said, when they come to my house, they could get a bottle of Caymus Opus 1 or a month's supply of Ozempic on side. Whatever y' all want to do. You know what I'm saying? They came to my house yesterday. So you know, my wife, her best friend, Mary J. Blige, course Chrissy, Jim Jones, all of them. They come. I call them the Four Musketeers. Yesterday, I'm home all day. They came in about 9:30. I thought they was about to start drinking, turning up the music to four in the Morning. I'm sitting there like that. They must have seen Grumpy Joe. It was like, all right, we out. We out of here. We're going to the next stop. I was like, this time I'm not telling stories. I'm sitting on the couch like, I don't know if I want to do this tonight. Four in the morning. My walls also shout out, vitaly. My house is pretty spectacular. But the one complaint I would have if I built enough. I built my house from scratch. If I had to build another house, I make.

[Jadakiss]

I didn't say nothing.

[Fat Joe]

I'll make the wall sticker like, you know, straight concrete where you can't hear shit in every room, right? Sometimes they torture me. We got the super system around every room in the house. And they start. I wanna thank you that about 4 in the morning. I'm sitting up there like, there, I gotta take a flight. Six in the morning. I'm tired as. Like this. It's just me and the dog. You know, the dog's the best friend. Male's best friend.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

That's Biz Markey. That's the dog Bismarck died.

[Fat Joe]

Damn, we got a nut. We got a dog called Bear.

[Jadakiss]

Okay, Arrington, you had his dog called Bismarck?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, Bismarcky. And so we got him for my daughter dog, Bismarcky, because that's one of my favorite. But anyway, the way I got it was my daughter I never forget. My daughter was like three years old and I bought her the dog and I said, baby, what's his name? And she said, you know, like your friend Silly Bismarcky. So she named as he named him Biz Markie. And at that time Bismarck, he was popping on the cartoon Network.

[Jadakiss]

Yo Gabba Gabba.

[Fat Joe]

He was Yo Gabba gabba to her. She was like, like your friend Silly Bismarck E. Shout out to Biz Mark E. Another super producer. Biz Mark is a going off. Biz was crazy out there. What's some new projects that you working on? Whose life you changing now?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Everybody shit on Friday. On Friday. Ty$sign's new album drop. I got probably like four or five records on there on Friday. My artist Ronnie who's sitting over there, his project comes out is called. Let me explain. He's amazing. This guy is like.

[Fat Joe]

He wanna spin King's brothers.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

He do look like.

[Fat Joe]

Kinda like the Spinking family, right? You look like them, right?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

He from Long Island. I know they be talking crazy about Long Island. I don't know why.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, we big him up here.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

But the guy is amazing. He's an incredible writer, just someone that I linked up with. And he's incredible artist. And man, we've been working together for a year. He's won a Grammy already. Professional Life Changer, Top 10 Records. He's on everybody's shit. You know how long this nigga been making records just to link with a nigga? And you get a Grammy off you? Not even 12.

[Jadakiss]

That's crazy.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You gotta lock in, you know, I mean, Chris Brown, Ty, Dollar Sign, all my people that I'm building up with. Tink, Ronnie, Toy Ann, everybody that's in house. And then as far as just like everybody that I'm working with, I mean whoever got an album coming out, I'm on it for the rest of the year. I said A week ago 50 songs was coming out before the end of the year. Seven came out on Friday, 21 will come out and then we'll press it again next Friday.

[Fat Joe]

You know, I need that pain. Damn, I got you. No, no, but I work new album with no hits.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Wait, what?

[Fat Joe]

With no hits, no comprision, just pain, just bars, just. You got to give me that. I got it like that, you know what I'm saying? Just that straight.

[Jadakiss]

I just want to come. Hey, I just need one hit and my son need one.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I got the one with Leon Thomas for you. Already on deck. And then J Juan, you know, I told him, come Miami already.

[Jadakiss]

Ain't no More I'm out of it.

[Fat Joe]

This show has become. This show has become a solicit. This guy, he might as well be called Pistol Pete. Anybody come sit on that couch. He's like, yo, you gave what a hit.

[Jadakiss]

It's fine. Time to j.

[Fat Joe]

To Kiss.

[Jadakiss]

I'm using this job to do my other job.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Most definitely. Me and Kiss had a hit with this record called Needsha best featuring TY$sign2Def Jam, drop Covid ball.

[Jadakiss]

Def Kid dropped the ball. Covid fucked it up. I ain't worried because I already. When I come, when I get next to you.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

This is my brother Green.

[Jadakiss]

Is. Is he a genius?

[Fat Joe]

You want to know what happened to me? You know, I was signed to a record label. I put out a record. Then I thought. I didn't think so. Similar to you. I'm not a producer, but I make hits. Oh, we know monsters. And so the way I was taught was like, yo, Joe, you're getting a one shot deal. If it ain't a hit, you ain't going to the next single. You ain't. This, this. They kept it real with that. So I trained my ears to almost think like a program director that I knew this was gonna play all day. Long story short, I did a song with Young Jeezy. Slow down, son.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You killing him with the sample.

[Fat Joe]

Get here. Ha ha.

[Jadakiss]

That was that shit.

[Fat Joe]

There's another way, you know, Played it one time. Everybody and their mother who had my number call me. A Mike Kaiser. This one. Welcome back, Joe. Like they was giving me the. This was already a number one. Like they heard it one time on the radio. Was like, that's when they call you. Yeah, Joe, this is. They felt like it was a lean back. The ain't do right. We shot the video Harlem Diddy on the. He was on the hood of the fucking Rolls Royce. We went crazy. And I said, you know what? It's the last time I'm gonna sit at a desk looking at some so called boss, asking them if they put. Did you press the button? Did you put money? Did you? I knew they ain't put money behind that because that shit would have been out of here. That's when I took power into my own hand and said, from now on, I'm independent.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yes.

[Fat Joe]

And I put up my own money. And I pay for my videos, I pay for my radio, I pay for my samples, I pay for everything and I win. I never been off the green. I never not won in my whole career. Now I got records on Atlantic Records, where I sold 2 million albums.

[Jadakiss]

You still.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, damn.

[Fat Joe]

I got albums. I put out a hundred thousand. Shout out to Ghazi. You changed my life. Empire Records, I got albums. I put out, sold a hundred thousand. And I made 3,4 million on that shit. So that is the one record that got me. I will never forget. I'm actually embarrassed to myself for sitting on the other side of the desk begging these dudes, is they going to promote my record? Is they going to spend money?

[Colin Coward]

Damn.

[Jadakiss]

Well, they was.

[Fat Joe]

I invested in myself. I never took an L, Thank God.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Can I ask you a question? This is a money conversation because you said independent, right? How much are you spending on these videos? Cause you have the most extravagant videos. Yo, bro, when y' all did Family Ties album, you know, these niggas shut down. Rest in peace. Irv Gotti, they shut down club live. I'm like, how expensive is this? Like. And it wasn't like early daytime. It was like nighttime. And they had the whole club live.

[Fat Joe]

This is for you. Okay? So you can hear me out, right? Cause if you feel like you in a situation with Def Jam that they don't really give a fuck about you or they got new people. What? Just saying. You are Jadakiss. You are the brand. You are hit maker. I am. Fat Joe James is a customer of hip hop. He does not. Look if I'm on Busby Records or one Talla Bella llc, he's buying the new Fat Joe album, right? This is where we gotta get that fucked up. Like that they think that it's a label that sold something. No. Now, I understood that and I said, I'm gonna go independent. And one thing I really gotta do is make sure that the Fat Joe image stays up. So I. You're correct. I spend $400,000 on videos. Shut down the lift, the ceiling, come down the fucking mansions, that this. Cause you have to look like nothing changed. That was my whole philosophy. It don't. You know, niggas, they go independent, they start shooting in front of the bodega and the baseball park, and it's over. This man went from. From million dollar videos to Crackhead videos. They know something's wrong here. You gotta act like the pure still there. The cut is there. I understood that. And I pray to God that I made the right choice for investing in my career.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You did.

[Fat Joe]

You know, and. And so that was the whole point for me with going independent. Making sure, you know, I looked at a video the other day, I see. And shout out to Irv Gotti. Reston.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yeah, Reston.

[Fat Joe]

You know, he was such a genius at doing what you do. He was a genius.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

One of my idols.

[Fat Joe]

And this guy, he was my go to for the video at Irving. Nothing cheap is 300, 400,000. He'd be in the the day of the video. Be like, need another hunted Joe. They charging for this and this and that. Irv don't know cheap.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

And he think like everybody, he was burning the budget.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, but it was me. It ain't no.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

It was no budget.

[Fat Joe]

It was one. So I gotta pay this.

[Colin Coward]

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[Fat Joe]

Man, I watched this video I got called Deep the other day.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I remember that one.

[Fat Joe]

That was crazy. I just felt like, yo, let me watch that Deep video.

[Jadakiss]

You was in a swimming pool with the minkle.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, that's the.

[Fat Joe]

We get in the pool with a mink. We was blowing money fast. You see this man? How many diamonds he got? He don't give a. He's at that level. You know what I'm saying? When you. When you feel like you number one, you know what? You know how number one that record was? Let me tell you something. R. Kelly only rocked before that with Biggie.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Damn.

[Fat Joe]

Not Jay Z yet. When I caught that feature, I want to say maybe Nas, when he had that shit in Chicago, that was incredible. But nobody, he was number one. He was the greatest thing ever created in the history of mankind. We did that song together. There is no doubt in my mind. I had a smoker. It was unbelievable. I couldn't believe the man even knew who I was. When he was like, yo, Fat Joe, what's up? Let's rock. I thought he was feeling. And at that time, I was really. The guns was rusty. I was really in them streets heavy. And I was like, yo, my man, do me a favor. Don't lie to me. Let's say you doing a record with me and I'm coming down. Nah, nah, Joe, come. The point is, the man gave me a hit. Never forget. You know, we started Memorial Weekend in Miami beach, started it. I was the promoter. If y' all didn't know Jadakiss and Cameo, ask him. Club Mansion. I had everybody. Young Jeezy, Club Mansion, fabulous in this. I was the promoter, right? Fat Joe was the promoter. Shout out butterfuko. I threw every. Every year, Memorial Weekend, I threw a Terror Squad pool party.

[Jadakiss]

Those was crazy.

[Fat Joe]

One day, all of Them was mine. You didn't know. So I throw a Fat Joe pool party. I never forget. Cam was there, Fab was there. AI was there.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Every.

[Fat Joe]

We threw the illest pool party. And I told the dj, press play. And that shit came on. And, man, we dug and rolling on doves. And I look at every rapper's face, and that shit said Fat Joe. When I'm at it again, they don't.

[Jadakiss]

I was there.

[Fat Joe]

You was there.

[Jadakiss]

That shit came, they rang off. I was there.

[Fat Joe]

You know what that was like, that title wave? I was like, heh. It's like you get when you throwing that dice and you throw them trips. I was there. I looked at every rapper's face and they said, holy shit. Before that, I was underground, right? So they was like, holy shit. This guy made one of these. And they didn't know what's love was coming right after that. And that. My lifestyle paralyzed the streets. I got you on that remix. So. You know, people try to forget when dudes have shit paralyzed out here in these streets. This shit been. There's a couple of times Fat Joe had the game paralyzed that leaned back. I stood in the club and I'm looking at Fab on the couch and kid me not, they played that shit about 30 times in a row. No other record. Bam, bam, bam, bam. And I'm looking at Fab and Fab looking at me like, jesus Christ, they gave him one of those.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Speaking of Fab, tell him to drop the record with Bryson Tiller. That's another one. Professional life changer.

[Fat Joe]

Bryson Tiller. Just 15 million. His first single. Don't record for R and B. Unbelievable. The guy don't even want to take a picture, huh? Not don't.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

No, not don't. He ain't wrote one. He wrote one on the last album with me or whatever.

[Fat Joe]

No, I was there when he wrote that. You know, my man discovered him. I was there. Like I'd seen the process, so. But he sold 15 million.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

That's unbelievable.

[Fat Joe]

On that one song, they broke a record or whatever the case may be. The thing I don't understand is you. You work on your shit, you come in town, yo, let me do the number one podcast. This guy don't want to. He's like, almost.

[Jadakiss]

That kind of helps. Know what he looks like. That helps him.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Like this mystique, right?

[Jadakiss]

That helps his mystique. I mean, it works for some people.

[Fat Joe]

He might be the last guy. Frank O', sheep, right?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Nigga, if I sell 15 million on my first single, I might not want to talk to nobody either. I'm surprised the nigga talked to me. And he giving me features.

[Fat Joe]

What? You know what's crazy is, man, I watched his come up literally from the infancy. How about he never changed on me, man. The guy's the same guy.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? And when we did that record, oh my God, I had a damn. I did. Yeah. I don't think we. I don't think nobody could ever get Price attila on a 24 hour radius. I got him like, yo, I'm putting this out tomorrow and I need the verse. And this guy, he don't want it. And he went in there and did it for.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

What's that? Hands on you, right?

[Fat Joe]

Hands on you.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

That's a mean joint, bro. I ain't gonna lie.

[Fat Joe]

You was drunk at that video too.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I had to be.

[Fat Joe]

We were at live. I gotta save you. Every time we was at liv, when.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I was supposed to be sober, I was supposed to be sober at liv.

[Fat Joe]

Do you know how many times I told dudes, how many times. And I'm not saying nothing, but how many times you said some crazy shit to dudes? And I say, yo, he with us. I mean like, oh, Joe, I know, I know. I said, nah, you.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I'm under that umbrella, for real.

[Fat Joe]

You know, the craziest shit is when you got some. Not you. I've had a situation where somebody came to me to tell me how he was gonna do something to one of. One of the global ambassadors under the umbrella. And this guy's a serious guy. Like this guy who's telling me this, he's a serious guy. Once he finishes, I tell him, well, what you want me to do with us? I watched this guy's eyes open up like a fucking raccoon. He looked at me, he said, huh? I said, he with us.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

What you gonna do, man? I got a real question. Can I ask a real question? What is the stylist budget for this shit? You know what I'm saying? Cause I know to relish is he putting these things. Cause y' all niggas snapping like this.

[Fat Joe]

He got Danny and he do.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

There's a new watch on this man wrist almost every episode. You two as well. Like it was watch. Match the fit, match the whip, match the bars, man. It was like. It's one of them, bro.

[Fat Joe]

Out of control. Yo, Jada, how you keeping up the budget? That because it ain't what we're making on the show. We just said spinning more, we spending more than we make. We just like, we gonna put our foot in their ass out there. Because if you. I'm like you. Y' all hit maker. If you had a podcast, it's like y' all hit. We get an opportunity to shit on dudes every day. Geevon chi, you know what I'm saying? Gucci shit watches, you know, fucking Kobe shits. You ain't see these shits in 20 years. I get to talk shit.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Wow.

[Fat Joe]

Come up in here, shit on these dudes every day.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

It's unbelievable. It's refreshing.

[Fat Joe]

Unbelievable.

[Jadakiss]

See you a real one for noticing that. They noticing, but they don't.

[Fat Joe]

They hating us. They hating. Well, they better hate some more, bro. Y', all, I just told him it's getting chilly out here. I just told Jackie Season.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You coming. You coming. Mined up.

[Fat Joe]

Yo. Listen, ugly. It's Four Seasons, baby. I dare you. I dare you. Try to stunt. Yeah, it's Four Seasons. I dare you. It's gonna be times I come on this podcast. That's gonna be unconsciousable. Just enjoy it.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

That's a flat. Unconscious boy is a flag.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, what was that meaning?

[Jadakiss]

He got the meaning.

[Fat Joe]

Dudes, I'm dumbing out. I'm coming up in there with that you never seen in your life. When you want a fur, that's two difference from rabbit fur and a sable. No, there's difference from a lot of these bullshit. First, listen, a lot of rappers out here wearing study that you dry your.

[Jadakiss]

Feet in the bathroom with.

[Fat Joe]

Study the blueprint. I am not playing with you.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

So this ain't no Daniel's leather shit, right? This is different shit.

[Fat Joe]

I fuck with Daniel, fuck with Daniels.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out to God.

[Fat Joe]

My first level.

[Jadakiss]

It's even at level. It's levels at Daniel.

[Fat Joe]

No, I gotta be. Yeah, it's levels.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Niggas gonna dip by the pink and black chinchilla from him. I fuck with Daniel's love.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Pink and black chinchilla. Yes.

[Fat Joe]

See, last year, I went like an asshole to the game.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, I do remember that fur hat.

[Fat Joe]

The maxt it pink chinchilla. I went like an asshole to the game. Adam Sandler was looking like, yo, is wrong with this mermaid nigga? I come up in there, asshole, yo. Yo, you ain't the only asshole in the game, yo.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I learned from the best.

[Fat Joe]

I show up in there with the. I said, I went to Switzerland. I said, yo. I said, yo, you know, remember they started wearing the asshole hats last year? Okay, whatever them hats is. What is them hats? The snow hats. I see, yo, why they call them they asshole hats? They like you know you acting up, right? So I said, yo, Daniel Lever. I was in Switzerland and I seen what was going on. I said, remember that pink chinchilla our boyfriend? He said, yeah, by, by the way, shout out. My shout out. My sister, Stephanie Mills, the living legend, her going, you know we went viral with that clip. You see me hit him with the Euro. They are the Euro Lane two times sitting around with that Louis, that was pain. I don't how much y' all want me to do right forget. So I, I got Stephanie Mills, one of them chinchillas too. The pink and black shit, just cause I love her.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, wow.

[Fat Joe]

Cause of what she do for the game. So I turned around, I got the jacket and I said, yo, you see these asshole hats they wearing? I sent them to Daniels. Now he says, yes, Joe. I said, can you make them in the pink and black chinchilla? I went to the Knicks game straight asshole. You know how much courage you gotta have to walk and see what's my man from our back to the future, Michael J.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Fox.

[Fat Joe]

Michael J. Fox. And dap him and be like, yo, what's up with the on. I've been killing you in the fashion game. I've been slaying you. We are not the same. If you're wearing a free Def Jam T shirt with some. Oh, I know how to put bull. I've been killing you in the game. Destroying y' all on every level now. Oh, if you're a hard worker, they fat phobic, huh? If you're a hard worker. Yeah, that's it. If you're a hard worker, right? If you're a hard worker and you can't afford some of the expensive shit and you go to Zara and all that, I'm saluting respect. I see some guys that I knew from the Rucker days. Then I went to Queen of Harlem shit, and they still got a nice sweatsuit on, some clean sneakers. Nice. Rollie, I respect you and salute you. I'm not trying to play you because I might have a little more money than you, but I'm talking about whoever think they're lying, you know, every time they come up. Yo, by the way, Fat Joe, kind of fresh, this Bottega, this navy blue Givenchy with the fucking watch the match. I am knocking you guys silly. Like, lie to yourself if you want. I don't know why they don't want to. Like, this is a no brainer, the way I'm shitting on them. The Knicks got a game against Cleveland. Don't come. Yo, if you into your fashion shit. Oh, if you enter your there's a please come. But if you into your fashion shit don't come. It's gonna be unconscious.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, the fit already laid out fit.

[Fat Joe]

Disrespectful. It's actually my wife is mad at me because it's on the dinner defined dinner table. The jacket, the jeans is there, the boots is there. It's waiting for you. Mary J came in my house yesterday. She seen that shit. She said, damn, Joe, what you. I said, listen, Mary, listen, Mary. I said this. I have, I got. Yo, I got.

[Jadakiss]

I said, listen, Mary, listen.

[Fat Joe]

I grew up shit poor. I watched my mother at welfare asking the people from section 8 to please give her some money so she could feed her kids sneakers. Them shits came three years after they was this style. You cannot tell me nothing about rice and eggs for dinner. I had to wipe my ass with newspaper, throw it under the water when it was too hot outside. We sleep on the floor cause we had no ac. Don't tell me bout this poor shit ever in your fucking life. And you niggas laughed at me. And that's why I give you the pain. That's why you caught the vapors. And you. And let me tell you something. You gonna catch this shit till I'm in the casket.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Most def.

[Fat Joe]

And guess what? I'm gonna leave enough money for my family to finish it off. You gonna keep that?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

They gonna keep that now your daughter a stepper too? Listen, you passed it down.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, it's gonna be pain out here in these streets with these cartagenas to the last one. Cause we not playing with y', all, man. They try to, you know. They try to write us off, they try to finish us. You know how many times I had to come back? I seen somebody who said this the other day. I think it was Swiss. He said, you not official till you make it and fall off five times and then come back. And that's the guys we raped.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I respect that.

[Fat Joe]

How many times that happened to us for sure. Let me tell you something. I got a $10 million deal. Shout out Wild Reef Tulo that we talking to. It's unbelievable, right? I went to the bank. You want some asshole shit?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Please.

[Fat Joe]

I went to the bank every single day for $50,000 cash. Had 50 guys with me, 30 of them paid for white Cadillac trucks. Everybody ts state lobster champagne every day. This, this, this, this. It's disgusting. They've been seeing this movie since I'm 14 here. Make out here in New York. They are not confused. They know we've been doing this shit forever, right? I go in the bank on 161 by Yankee Stadium one day. I go up in there, hey, Mr. Joe. I say, hey, what's up, y'?

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[Fat Joe]

I need 50 cash. Something's wrong with the computer or something, Mr. Joe, because it's no money in here.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh, shit.

[Fat Joe]

I walked out that bank like I had a fucking hole in my head like a dolphin. My shit was going. I don't know if you ever heard that. You ever heard the ringing? I was knocked out without the punch. I walked out of that shit. I said, we got no money, like, so I'm thinking, it just can't run out to me. $10 million. I'm thinking it's like a fucking cloud from the sky in a bottle. I walk out of there, I tell my guys, I said, anybody. And I'm sorry, guys, because I did some foul shit. Anybody owe us a dollar, you lift them up upside down. And we did it. Swear to God, we did it to friends of ours, guys who were our friends, who owed me 10,000. 15. We left them upside down to say, yo. Niggas was calling me, like, yo, Joe. They could have just asked me, why you got me dragging. They dragging me out the. The restaurant butt naked in front of everybody. This still Joe. Just ask me. I know I owe you 10 grand, man. The next day, I had maybe 250,000.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Oh.

[Fat Joe]

You know, from people who owe me. But then I had to. You know, when you come back from having nothing, this is why you gotta love God in the good and bad times. Because a lot of times, the ones that God loved the most, he'll put them through some shit so that you can. Man, I went on my knees talking about that album. I went on on my knees. Big Pun just died. I was depressed. I'm like £500. My sister died, my grandfather. Man, I prayed so hard on my knees. I'm talking about on your knees. That's when it worked. That's when you go on your knees and you just. That's the good knees. Jesus, let me show these guys, please, one more time. And then he gimme. What's love? We dug in, and we fuck up that bag, too. We fuck. I fucked up the bag about a good thing.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

How many M's you think you fucked up over your whole career?

[Fat Joe]

Whoa. At least maybe up. Look, I don't want to gasp. I don't know. This is hard. Listen, it's a lot of money, but I want to say, I never had it in one lump sum. So I never been like that. You know what I'm saying? So I might have you live a life. 100 million or something. But it was in different times.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You was getting bags in all eras, though. That's what's so crazy. Like, the bad.

[Jadakiss]

He's seen all the different money changes. He been around since the little head.

[Fat Joe]

The little head I was getting at my time, Flo Jo was number one in the country. I was getting $500 a show, crackhead money. So I would do Yonkers, White Plains, then some shit Boston. Come back, D.O. norfolk, Virginia, Fayetteville, North Carolina, DC. Come back in one day, I'm picking up 15. Like, that's how ambitious I've been about this money since I was a kid, you know, so, you know, it's not gonna. This is what we do.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

That's amazing, bro.

[Fat Joe]

I'm addicted to the wind, man.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Man. Well, for me, it's like, I'm just as ambitious, too. Cause, like, I'm delusional. Cause I go to the studio with nothing every day, knowing that something's gonna come from a vibe, an energy or whatever. I do like, people, creators, we're the most delusional people out there. We paying for the studio, we paying for the engineer. We paying. When you go there with nothing, with the hopes that at the end of the night or the next day, you're gonna wake up and play something that was worth your time. I think that we the most delusional people in the game, but we do it. Cause we love it so much. You know what I'm saying? We've seen it happen. I've went to a studio and had nothing and woke up with a number one or woke up with some different shit. So that's why I'm always, like, how you saying, like, ambitious and betting on yourself. Like, I'm always doing that shit 24 7, bro.

[Fat Joe]

We gotta do that.

[Jadakiss]

That's fire.

[Fat Joe]

And we also gotta invest businesses and be smart.

[Jadakiss]

Save your money, man.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Whenever we ain't as hot or something or whatever the case may be. Cause you know, somebody, they always come out with a new tv. Like I always tell everybody, the biggest. The biggest was to have a big tv. Remember the big tv, you have one of them shits. The girl ain't want to leave your house, she want to stay. She knew there was some type of money going on out here. Got the big tv. Then one day they woke up and said flat screen. One day it went from the phone to this. So all I'M saying is we smart enough to see so many people. Like, I tell you, I went broke three, four times in my life. Like, dead broke. So we smart enough now to not go broke. Invest in different businesses, invest in different things. But franchises. If you could do what Shaq did and all that, like, just buy a bunch of franchises. My new thing is. And listen, guys, don't quote me literally, but my new thing is I want to buy my son a franchise. Like, I want to be like something so he won't keep asking me for money. Know what I'm saying? So it'll be like, yo, take a Subways, take a Papa John's, take a Dunkin Donuts. That way, if you hustle like me, you're able to open 2, 3, 4. You know, I tell people all the time, I say, yo, McDonald's ain't stop at one store. They just kept going in that arch everywhere. That arch is everybody everywhere. So we got to invest in a bunch of different things.

[Colin Coward]

This is Colin Coward from the Colin coward podcast on Fox 1. Now you can stream your favorite live sport so you can be there live for the biggest moments. That means NFL Sundays and college football games, nascar, Major League Baseball, postseason and more. With Fox one, you get it all. Live, edgier seat plays, high octane moments, and that feeling like you're right there in the action. Fox one, we live for live streaming now.

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[Fat Joe]

The one thing I never liked was yo, he used to have, yo. Yeah, I seen that one thing.

[Jadakiss]

I never like, live.

[Fat Joe]

You know, I never liked liver either or beats me neither. Like, beats the red.

[Jadakiss]

You got to throw some m. You got to. You got to mix beets with something.

[Fat Joe]

They make a good beet salad now. But when I was a kid, I used to cry to the liver. I literally fat Joe. I ate everything you could think of. But when they would give me liver, I would cry. Like, literally cry. My father would force me to eat liver and I would cry like I hated that shit. Like, literally. I was a vacuum cleaner. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Jadakiss]

Well, flat.

[Fat Joe]

I used to sit down, vacuum clean and eat with my family. And my sisters were skinny and they would pass me they steak or they chicken and. And I'm killing everything. Fat Joey's eating everything when that liver come out. They used to have to. I cry like a baby like, I ain't want that liver. And my father was trying to teach me, yo, we ain't rich. We gonna eat whatever God gave us today. You gonna eat this liver. And I'm like, like hated that shit. I hate liver. But I also hate. And I always salute him. But yo, he used to have a run, yo, he used to have it. Remember, there's still Dudes outside talking about when they had the Mazda rx, what.

[Jadakiss]

They used to do. Yeah, yeah, fuck out of here.

[Fat Joe]

Remember when I came around somewhere in 96 and I had the Lexus 2 dog? Nah, papito, this is for life. This money game is for life.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

That's why we work so hard. Scared of falling off, scared of not being able to happen.

[Fat Joe]

And that's the true meaning of working and working and working because you gotta have it.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

What was the peak like in both of y' all career? Like, not career wise, but just like on some music shit. Like, what was your Rico Love moment where you like, nigga, nobody's fucking with me. But what was your hit makeup moment? What was your moment to where you like, man, nobody.

[Jadakiss]

I feel like that every day. I wake up in the morning. Nah. But in the game, I had a few of. I had a nice. I had a few of them in the beginning, you know what I mean? In the middle.

[Fat Joe]

But when. What was the moment where you was just like, I'm that nigga, I'm J.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

The kiss, for me, it's when he put the paper towel on his head. Like you knew, like, nobody was fucking with him. You know what I'm saying? Like, n went paper towel this. Like, knock yourself out this. Yeah. That era was incredible too. Solo Jada first solo album was incredible.

[Jadakiss]

I agree.

[Fat Joe]

For me, for me, it's always about the money. I want the hit, I want the fame and all that. But anytime I caught that super check like that 10 million we talking about, oh, you couldn't tell me shit. He probably saw me in clubs and all that and was like, this nigga is on cloud 10,000 because I had the army, you know what I'm saying?

[Jadakiss]

Now they just gave you the bread to make it complete red.

[Fat Joe]

And so what's so crazy is, you know, I used to stick people up. Two time felon. Like, I did this. No, no, no. It's the difference between me. I hear a lot of rappers. Yo, I was homeless, yo, I was this. I don't know about that, bro. I stuck up. Whoever you thought was the biggest, I lined them up. Hustle got this. I'm not the guy. I'm gonna get the bag, right? So when they give you the check and the guy who gives you a $10 million check takes the train afterwards and say, bye, fellas. Gets on the train and now you like, yes, I got it. I feel sorry for anybody who knew me because I always think that I'm humble, but I definitely was not humble at that time I definitely, probably was walking past people I knew my whole life. Like, fuck that, dude. Smash them. Like, you know. No, no, I'm telling you. I definitely was violating dudes on another, another, Another level of excellence. You took a guy who's just a stone cold criminal, dangerous, dealt with violence his whole life and gave him 10 million. I'm walking in the club smacking the shit out of kingpins, guys that are really killing people in the. Huh. Yo, this is once. Ah, the whole cheekbone. Get the fuck up. And the whole club is what? Like, yo, did he just do that to the guys who be pulling up in Lamborghinis and Ferraris and I was overdoing it. You gave the wrong person a bunch of money at the wrong time.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, when did you feel like that?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Twice. The most recent one is probably when I sold my catalog or whatever. If we talk about I sold a portion of my catalog. So we talk about. Yeah, half of it.

[Fat Joe]

Who you did the deal with?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

I was doing it with hypnosis. And then the people, well, Mike Karen came out of nowhere and was like, you ain't read the fine print, Mike.

[Fat Joe]

Karen been fucking with you since day one, huh?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yo, Mike Karen signed me for like $20,000 in 2014. Like 2014. He signed me for $20,000. Unbelievable. At that moment, I look back at it and I don't hold no resentment to it. Cause it's like I ain't had a hit stand. So it might have looked like a gamble at that moment, but to where we at now, it's like, it's incredible.

[Fat Joe]

Mike Cameron never fucked with Joe Crap.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Never ever.

[Fat Joe]

He came in Atlantic, like after my run. This guy watched what he did for Flo Rider. He helped a lot of people for sure. Throw me a Frisbee. Never. He never throw me a Frisbee. It's a lot of that. See, so with me, I try to tell everybody we did it all on our own. Not meaning by myself individually, but our team. You see, we want to make some money with products. We got Sonrisa Rum. We got rewinded, 10 Kiss Cafe. Because nobody, when I say nobody, comes to me with a bag or yo, I got these people, I got this, yo. When I say it's Sad. It's a 30 year run of nobody coming to me with some money or some bag. I had to make it all on my own. If I want some sneakers, I gotta make up a up nyc. If I wanted this, I tell you, I had to invest in myself. This. Like, nobody has come with the bag for years. Let me give you another one. Maybe you haven't. I just want you to say true or not.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Okay, Right.

[Fat Joe]

True or false. At one time. Not now, but at one time, I felt like I was on such a run that some of these labels could have came and tapped me on the shoulder and said, yo, Joe, we want to make you president of A and R. President of the label. Because at this time, I couldn't miss with the hits. Nobody tapped me on the shoulder. Even here they got conversations with Roc Nation. Salute DEZ and Jay. And they said, you know how many times your name came up to be president of Roc Nation? And nobody called. I was waiting for the call. No, I'm telling you facts.

[Jadakiss]

I didn't say anything. I'm just looking at this funny.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Funny you say that. So I'm actually going back into the building. I guess I could announce it here on Joe and Jada. I'm going back inside the building to be. To work for a building again. I took some time off because of course I did. I think I did four years at Atlantic and then I two years with Empire. But when I moved to Miami and I sold my catalog, I kind of wanted to just, like, enjoy myself a little bit still. Stay working, but not be in the building. Cause it was getting a little frustrating just because of with Ghazi and them being in San Francisco and then me moving to Miami. It was like a lot of disconnect or whatever. And I lived in San Francisco for a lot of the time during COVID up there with Ghazi and them. So when I moved to Miami, it just kind of got a little weirded out. So, like, I stepped back, but now I'm going back inside the building. I won't say where, but I think it's necessary and, like. Cause everybody wants to complain about no artist development, no this, no that. It's just. Cause they don't respect the niggas that they want to develop them. So when you get somebody like myself, and I'm encouraging every producer that's watching this shit right now, go inside the building, take that step, and do what I want to, what I'm about to do. Because one, it's not about job security. Huh? Did I sign it yet?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, did you sign?

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Not yet. Okay. But I got multiple different offers. But I think I'm gonna go with who I gave my word to. You know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

And you are men in your word.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Yeah, for sure. Salute to that person. And also salute to New York. La Gillian Wallow, whatever. I just got them a major label deal as well too. For his daughter. His daughter. Gilly's daughter name is New York La. She's an artist. I'm executive producing her album. She's like the most incredible. Incredible, incredible, incredible. She's out of here.

[Fat Joe]

Let me use the bathroom before close it out.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Say less.

[Fat Joe]

Today we celebrating to you selling your catalog.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Most definitely.

[Fat Joe]

Selling over 350 million records and then some. Cause you just started.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Most definitely.

[Fat Joe]

Okay, well, you got something to say? Kiss.

[Jadakiss]

You celebrating his new single, new project out Friday.

[Fat Joe]

Let me explain so can tell the.

[Jadakiss]

People what's going on with new project algo by the name of Ryan. You're here. Pleasure to be here.

[Fat Joe]

You got a special microphone this year.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, I love that. I love that, I love that. So project drop. Let me explain. I got my single, I was still on my mind featuring Fab. It's going crazy, going crazy. So yeah, what's up? Let's toasted.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

A life.

[Jadakiss]

Let me explain, it's Friday, let's go.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

My brother.

[Jadakiss]

We live a life yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah Baby you still on my mind she from the west end, she a beach B I need you with a heat way bab got me seasick I need you bad B I'm never leaving she thinks she low so living fabulous we on the same page I guess, I guess, I guess you only call me when you lonely.

[Fat Joe]

Girl I guess shy worse than me.

[Jadakiss]

Is toxic complace Hope that you still going through it gave you the bag and you blew But I spin back, get the game to it cuz baby you still on my mind Baby you still on my mind.

[Guest Singer / Artist]

Still here hard.

[Jadakiss]

To forget baby you still on my.

[Guest Singer / Artist]

Yeah, I ain't forget you, you've been with me whole time I just ain't been with you When I see you I' ma take the body language with you and I' ma stroke you up and down Imma paint the picture. You ever had somebody living rent free in your head? Or ever had a shorty living rent feet for the head Thinking about the balcony we went deep on a ledge? Or that time that we turned a Bentley to a bed? Gotta see it or you actually won't believe it. Matt I made a video but asked me could you see it. You been acting shy but you actually gonna freak it But I won't tell nobody you my nasty little secret yeah, you still on my mind Name came up on my iPhone. You still on reminds me I still look at yours. Do you still look at mine? Had to Slide up in a dm.

[Fat Joe]

Let'S go.

[Jadakiss]

You still.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Y' all don't want me to play that bomb I was talking about, too, either.

[Fat Joe]

Save me, okay?

[Jadakiss]

Don't do that to me.

[Fat Joe]

Give me something. I'm working.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

You know this. You know this phone. I'm working. And I got you, my brother.

[Fat Joe]

B. Man, I got you. Yo, your man is incredible, man. His tone, everything about that, I love. Yo, kids want to jump on that.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

And he did Salute the kids. He jumped on this record. I don't know if I'm announcing it before her, but Angela Simmons, she got a record that's about to come out featuring Jadakiss Video done in the bag and all that. And it's going to be very surprising for them.

[Fat Joe]

Baby, you're still on my mind Let me tell you something about music, man. It's just so much from the heart and then his soul. And even me, man, I be like, you know, one of my favorite artists of all time is Baby Face.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Me, too.

[Fat Joe]

And when I listen to that shit, he said, tell me where. Where will you go? Tell me who don't. It's just, you know, you've been going electrifying. You go through some shit in your life where the music relate. Like, somebody met some chick, he ain't talked to her no more. He's like, baby, you still on my mind. And he's like, damn, I wish I got. But you know what I'm saying, she ain't leave. This ain't that.

[Jadakiss]

That ain't this crack. Make some noise for our guest today. Hit maker.

[Fat Joe]

Hit maker.

[Jadakiss]

You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

Oh, let me tell you something. I love you, brother man. You know, I went out the room. Life change. How disliked it.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

That's what he saying.

[Fat Joe]

I thought somebody played the record. Let me tell you something. He don't gotta go. He with us.

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[Fat Joe]

All right, but he with us.

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[Jadakiss]

But look.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Let me say something that no producer ain't done since. Oh, we talking about runs and like that. I still got the record at at for a young. Because I. I don't think, like, maybe for real or somebody else did it. If there's urban radio, top 40 songs at urban radio. At one moment, I had 13 of the 40. So I don't know what percentage that is, but I don't know no nigga that hogged up that type of lane in this time in the last 10 years, but me. So salute, Salute.

[Fat Joe]

Talk about it.

[Jadakiss]

And we gonna end it with that. You know what I mean? Till you top that you young motherfuckers.

[Fat Joe]

I knew it was another glow. You said you sold your catalog. I knew there was something special.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

No, I knew it was another glow. Yo, when I moved that.

[Fat Joe]

When you bring out the whistle that man Yo.

[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

Joe Bridge these joints I got for y' all, they rolls Roy Spectra music I'm promising that's what I play in my spectra when I'm about to get y'. All no foreign.

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[Hitmaker (Young Berg)]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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