Podcast Summary: "How Lil Wayne, Future, OutKast & Southern Hip Hop TOOK Over Rap Game"
Podcast Information:
- Title: Joe and Jada
- Hosts: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
- Description: Hip-hop legends and longtime friends Fat Joe and Jadakiss link up twice a week to share behind-the-scenes stories from their legendary careers and give their real thoughts on the hottest topics in music, sports, and pop culture.
- Episode: How Lil Wayne, Future, OutKast & Southern Hip Hop TOOK Over Rap Game
- Release Date: July 29, 2025
In this engaging episode of the Joe and Jada Show, hip-hop icons Fat Joe and Jadakiss delve deep into the transformative impact of Southern hip hop on the broader rap landscape. Their conversation spans the rise of influential artists and labels, the cultural shift from New York to the South, and even touches on intriguing intersections between sports and music.
1. The Ascendancy of Southern Hip Hop
Fat Joe and Jadakiss kick off the discussion by highlighting how Southern hip hop redefined the rap game. They emphasize the pivotal roles of Lil Wayne and Future, noting their unique styles and relentless work ethics that set new standards in the industry.
Fat Joe [02:11]: "They got the whole country in the chokehold. Yo, what up y'?"
2. Independent Labels Paving the Way
The duo credits independent labels like Suave House, No Limit, and Cash Money for breaking barriers and fostering a collaborative environment that contrasted with the competitive nature of New York's hip hop scene.
Jadakiss [07:38]: "What label had the most impact? No Limit, Cash Money, Suave House rap. A lot. So, so Def Slip N Slide, LA Face. What would you say? I say all of them shits."
3. Southern Collaboration vs. New York Competition
Fat Joe reminisces about the camaraderie in Southern hip hop, where artists frequently collaborated and supported each other, a stark contrast to the fragmented New York scene plagued by ego and competition.
Fat Joe [09:28]: "Once you got the people with you, there's nothing you could do. Whether they for you or against you."
4. Influential Artists and Their Legacy
The conversation shifts to legendary figures like Master P, Jay-Z, and OutKast, discussing their contributions and how they influenced both Southern and national hip hop trends.
Jadakiss [10:07]: "You said Suave House, definitely rapping a lot. Slip and Slide was doing their thing. But I would say it would have to be No Limit and Cash Money to me."
5. Personal Experiences with Cash Money and Birdman
Fat Joe shares his experiences touring with Cash Money Records, highlighting the unique family-like atmosphere and the influence of Birdman on the artists' successes.
Fat Joe [10:22]: "Multiple runs. Yeah, we was on a rough ride of Cash Money tour."
6. Southern Influence on New York Artists
They explore how Southern artists like Scarface, T.I., and Jeezy have left indelible marks on New York's hip hop scene, with their styles and business acumen inspiring a new generation of artists.
Fat Joe [14:04]: "If you ask HOV and you ask a bunch of rappers, they might just say Scarface."
7. OutKast and Southern Pioneers
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to OutKast and other Southern pioneers, discussing their innovative sounds and how they shaped the evolution of hip hop.
Fat Joe [17:17]: "I don't think no New Yorker... do they understand what three stacks means to the South?"
8. The Intersection of Sports and Hip Hop
Transitioning from music, Fat Joe and Jadakiss delve into the crossover between sports and hip hop, specifically discussing Ben Simmons and the implications of athletes venturing into rap careers.
Jadakiss [47:08]: "The Knicks is in talk with Ben Simmons."
9. Critique of Ben Simmons' Career Shift
They offer a candid critique of Ben Simmons' potential transition into rap, debating his skills and the broader trend of athletes seeking fame in the music industry.
Fat Joe [47:12]: "That's emphatically non cipher."
Jadakiss [48:00]: "He can play. He don't want to shoot."
10. Reflections on Legacy and Influence
Wrapping up, Fat Joe and Jadakiss reflect on their own legacies, the importance of staying authentic in the industry, and the enduring influence of Southern hip hop on both music and culture.
Fat Joe [62:12]: "The biggest fucking show in the globe. A phenomenon. Rookies of the year. We going for that number one spot. And let me tell y', all, I see y' all shaking in your boots. We coming. The train is coming, baby. The train is coming."
Key Takeaways:
- Southern hip hop's dominance is attributed to its collaborative spirit and influential independent labels.
- Artists like Lil Wayne and Future have been instrumental in reshaping the rap landscape with their innovative styles.
- The shift from New York to the South reflects broader cultural changes within the hip hop community.
- Intersections between sports and hip hop highlight the evolving dynamics of celebrity and influence.
- Authenticity and collaboration remain central to sustaining a legacy in the ever-changing music industry.
Notable Quotes:
- Fat Joe [02:11]: "They got the whole country in the chokehold."
- Jadakiss [07:38]: "I say all of them shits."
- Fat Joe [09:28]: "Once you got the people with you, there's nothing you could do."
- Jadakiss [10:07]: "No Limit and Cash Money to me."
- Fat Joe [14:04]: "If you ask HOV and you ask a bunch of rappers, they might just say Scarface."
- Fat Joe [62:12]: "The train is coming, baby. The train is coming."
This episode provides a comprehensive look into the seismic shifts within hip hop, celebrating Southern artists' monumental contributions while offering candid insights into the industry's future dynamics.
