Joe Budden (3:16)

Foreign.

Jada (3:22)

It's your boy Jada, man. You know who it is? The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. You never know who's gonna come sit on the blue couch. You know, I'm. I'm basketball to the death. So is my brother. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for New York Knicks own New Jersey's own call. Anthony Towns.

Joe Budden (3:46)

Make something yo special Greek. That's the special greeting, right?

Carl Anthony Towns (4:18)

That's love.

Joe Budden (4:19)

You know, my godfather was Dominican.

Jada (4:20)

For real?

Joe Budden (4:21)

No, sir. What do you want me to do?

Jada (4:23)

I gotta get a porta potty back there because I can't even make it to the bathroom now. Stop this shit though.

Joe Budden (4:29)

My godfather's a great man. My father was a great man, rest in peace. But my godfather, he filled in wherever my father didn't. Took me places and Yankee games and did shit. Took me to museums and he lived in Dyckman. And that's how I became real tight with the Dominican culture. Only thing I hated, they used to make me eat the red. The beets, what they call that in Spanish. It's even funny in Spanish. The beet salad. Dominicans eat the beet salad, the red.

Carl Anthony Towns (5:02)

I ain't never had that.

Jada (5:04)

Beets is good for you.

Joe Budden (5:05)

That shit like poison, man.

Jada (5:06)

That's Pete. Talk to him, man. Beets is good.

Joe Budden (5:08)

Beets is fantastic. Out there some shit, man. Yo, that man used to force me. I used to damn near cry to eat that shit. He's a great man. So I always love Dominicans, man. Oh, Carl Anthony Town.

Jada (5:21)

Yes, sir. We had your brother on recently. We just interviewed you. Big Blue Nation brother. John Wall.

Carl Anthony Towns (5:29)

Yes, sir.

Jada (5:30)

It was a great interview. Check that out. You know I love ball, so I gotta. I love basketball. No flags. I love. I'm basketball to the heart. I'mma ask you, you could tell me to stop anytime. I'm going to ask you, man. Shit.

Carl Anthony Towns (5:45)

Nah, nah.

Jada (5:47)

38 and 1 were the final four parents.

Carl Anthony Towns (5:51)

I know.

Jada (5:52)

One season at Kentucky. How was your experience? How was Coach Cal? How was the royalty? What was going on on campus? Let me know some of these things.

Carl Anthony Towns (6:01)

That Nah, it's special. That place is special. It's. It's crazy. I haven't had that kind of experience with the fans appreciating game of basketball that way until really I got here. And Minnesota was great, but just the energy the city has for the game. You know, I grew up here and just noticing all that stuff. And I said it before, you know, playing in New York with the Gauchos gym and everything, and always being around, playing at Rucker Park 2 and everything, it's. It was crazy to be able to kind of relive that kind of energy, basketball again. And I haven't had that kind of experience until I got here.

Jada (6:37)

John Wall also said he bought to our attention that college basketball had went dormant a little. It lost his fluidity a little to Kentucky. Cal started rolling y' all out like y' all was celebrities, like y' all was real. People was running home. Yeah, catch the games. You don't want to miss no games, no tournaments. He made y'. All. It's like he evolutionized what was going on with the Fab Five and them.

Joe Budden (7:07)

They.

Jada (7:07)

They kind of paved the way. But when y' all got there, y' all was select. Y' all was like an NBA team. In college, I would. What is that like?

Carl Anthony Towns (7:16)

I mean, we felt like rock stars there. You know, everywhere we went, you know, people noticed who we were. Then if you was the number one guy on the team or you was at the end of the bench, everyone was rock stars. And, you know, the crazy stories, being there and just seeing how the fans, fan interactions went, you know, March Midnight Madness was something like a movie. So it was crazy to have those kind of moments. And especially with a team like that, you know, such a historical team. Cal always told us, make sure we enjoy these moments, because you'll never have that much talent in one room for basketball ever again.

Joe Budden (7:51)

That's crazy. Cause your man John Wall said that Cal told him, yo, make sure you take some guys with you.

Carl Anthony Towns (7:57)

It was different for us. I mean, we had nine draft picks, you know, I think we had.

Jada (8:01)

They had five.

Joe Budden (8:01)

Yeah, five first round. They had five first round, nine. He was like, yo, make sure you take some guys with you.

Carl Anthony Towns (8:08)

Like, and the people who didn't even go to the NBA on our team that year ended up going to the NBA the next year.

Joe Budden (8:14)

So really, I mean, that's a great thing, man. That's a story. That's a dream come true.

Carl Anthony Towns (8:20)

Yeah. I mean, it's special. I mean, like he said, it's true. That was A key lesson for me, like, in life and even for last year, too, with our team. Just stay in the present, enjoy this moment. You know, don't worry about the future. Don't worry about everything that could come with this situation. Just enjoy being in the present, because you're never gonna get these moments back. You may never be in the same room again with these guys playing.

Joe Budden (8:43)

He was young. Did you understand exactly what he was. I did.

Carl Anthony Towns (8:45)

I did.

Joe Budden (8:46)

When I was young, I didn't understand that.

Carl Anthony Towns (8:48)

You know what? I was fortunate. I had experiences that had already told me to experience, to enjoy life in the present with, you know, my uncle passing away, and little things in life that, you know, they just teach you. You know, it humbles you. It gives you experience. It makes you understand certain things. When you were younger, you think you know everything, and you obviously, you get older and you're like, what the hell was I thinking?

Joe Budden (9:08)

Yeah.

Carl Anthony Towns (9:08)

You know, So I had those moments already in life where appreciating the present was a big key for me, you.

Joe Budden (9:16)

Know, it's even like that now, right? Like, I got a friend of mine who doesn't need my advice, who's got more money than me, more success than everything, but I felt like I had to tell him something.

Carl Anthony Towns (9:26)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (9:27)

And that. That's really, really hard. Even with the young kids, right? With the young rappers, People be like, yo, why don't you pull a young. I'm like, yo, bro, you got a young kid. That was the odds was one out of every 20 million. He's rich now. He made it happen. How the hell I'm gonna tell him anything what to do, Let alone another legend? But I felt like I wasn't keeping it real if I didn't sit down and tell them, yo, look, I'mma tell you something. I want you to get mad at me. I want this to mess up our relationship. But if you don't see what I'm telling you now, in five years, you'll understand, because it happened to me. People try to tell me stuff. I'm like, yo, what they talking about? And five years later, I'm sitting on a couch somewhere, and I said, damn, they try to put me on. And I was in the way of myself.

Carl Anthony Towns (10:17)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (10:17)

So it's just so hard to be in the moment and be present, because sometimes when you overcome so many odds, like, you know, you. You know, you can't. Like, who's going to be able to tell you something?

Carl Anthony Towns (10:31)

Nah, you know, you got to listen to the legends, man. Yeah, yeah, y' all hip Hop and culture, y', all, y' all paved the way for these, you know, the new guys to be able to rap that way, to be able to move that way, to being able to wear the clothes they wear and stuff. So it's like you gotta always listen to the legends. And for me in basketball, you know, you know, KG was my vet.

Jada (10:50)

We gonna get into that.

Carl Anthony Towns (10:51)

You know what I'm saying? KG was my vet. So I came into the NBA with, already have playing with Al Horford on the Dominican team, the Dominican national team and stuff. But then now you're going with K.

Joe Budden (11:01)

So you had that bond ahead of time.

Carl Anthony Towns (11:04)

I had more of the old school mentality of approaching work. You know, like you'd be the first one in the gym, last one to leave. But in that time, it's about the quality. It's not. Not about just being able to say that, you know, people, you know, you can be the first one to the gym to do nothing until practice and then after practice leave. So, you know, like actually utilizing that time, enjoying weightlifting, enjoying, you know, understanding diet, understanding like how to move as a professional, how to communicate with people, you know, never. One of the things with KG was like calling everyone by their name, understanding the refs names, you know, like treating men like men, you know, not acting like you better than anybody and stuff like that. And he taught me a lot.

Jada (11:43)

2015, he drafted number one overall. We're going to take it back a little bit to the Miami now.

Carl Anthony Towns (11:50)

Man, that sounds crazy. Ten years ago, blessing a decade. I'm blessed. Yeah, I'm blessed. He told me too. He's like, you're going to blink. Five years going to go by, you going to blink again. You're going to be 10 years, blink again, you're going to be like, why the hell am I still doing that?

Joe Budden (12:02)

So that's what they said and that's.

Carl Anthony Towns (12:04)

What, that's what he told me.

Jada (12:05)

He told me about that. They failed. You got drafted, you had to go. This what I always wanted to know. You gotta go. Next morning, you gotta go to Minnesota.

Carl Anthony Towns (12:15)

Yeah, yeah. Next morning. Drafted, you drafted number one. Whatever. I had the after party for the draft at the Knickerbocker and then next morning I was out. We're about from. Was it Farmingdale? Left from Farmingdale straight to Minnesota.

Joe Budden (12:31)

Yo, this is cold as Minnesota.

Carl Anthony Towns (12:33)

You wouldn't know, but.

Joe Budden (12:34)

No, no, no, no. It's no fluidity in Minnesota, boy.

Carl Anthony Towns (12:38)

It's cold as minus 27.

Joe Budden (12:41)

Some days this guy Stephon Mulberry used to cry out there. He wanted to get you. Steph probably could have won chips out there. Yeah, he just got out of there. He couldn't take. He even was going to quit the league or, you know, he didn't want to be in Minnesota. Minnesota got great people and great fans. He wasn't used to it. Sometimes they drive underground. Sometimes it's so fucking cold or something.

Carl Anthony Towns (13:05)

Oh, like in Minnesota. Like, for instance, downtown, they got like skyways, so you don't actually have to walk outside. Or like for downtown, the streets under it is under the concrete. It's hot water circulating to help with the ice.

Joe Budden (13:19)

Not happy.

Jada (13:20)

What do you have to do when you first get there? Is it basically to meet. See the facility right when you land?

Carl Anthony Towns (13:26)

When I landed there, got in the car, went straight down to Target Center. But it was Lowe's and had your press conference introducing yourself to the fans. It was. It's immediate. It's.

Joe Budden (13:38)

Right away I had a bad run in with that. They. They had me introduce Kemba and the other guy and scored two points. And the Knicks was like, we want you to introduce. Welcome them to the Knicks. I welcome them.

Jada (13:49)

They do.

Joe Budden (13:54)

We want you to introduce him. Yo, we got Kemba Walker. We got. Who was it, Fournier or something? Both of them ain't do shit. I'm sitting there like, yo, we so happy they here.

Jada (14:03)

Kimberly, I love you, man.

Joe Budden (14:05)

Yo, Kemba. Yo, don't do that. Don't do that. We just have a few supposed to represent Kemba. I did, though.

Carl Anthony Towns (14:13)

Both of them could score the ball too, though. Yeah, they really scored the ball.

Joe Budden (14:16)

He just was trash. They. Well, they was a little. He was banged up. Kimball, Walker, Paul injury.

Jada (14:22)

Yes.

Joe Budden (14:22)

Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yo, we got to make some shirts. Yo, yo, yo, we hurt. Kimball was hurt.

Jada (14:33)

Yeah, yeah, he got. He has some injuries. He has some detriment.

Carl Anthony Towns (14:36)

There's nothing.

Joe Budden (14:36)

There's nothing better than.

Carl Anthony Towns (14:37)

There's nothing better than watching him in UConn on the big east, man.

Jada (14:40)

Kill. He killed.

Joe Budden (14:41)

He killed college. I remember.

Carl Anthony Towns (14:43)

You remember that? Oh, my God. Against Pittsburgh, too.

Jada (14:45)

That was that old run, though. Yeah.

Joe Budden (14:49)

Back last year, that three point. You said. Whoa, whoa. I said, what the. I got a classic pick. I put up with you and Spike right after that.

Carl Anthony Towns (15:05)

Oh, yes, yes, yes. It's in my house.

Joe Budden (15:07)

All right. I'm trying to relax.

Carl Anthony Towns (15:10)

It's in my house. It's in my house right now.

Jada (15:15)

You can tweak. You got that picking yacht.

Carl Anthony Towns (15:16)

Yeah, I do. I do.

Joe Budden (15:17)

That was a legendary pick.

Carl Anthony Towns (15:19)

Yeah, I definitely. It's so funny because I feel like re watching that and you see me like in that mode, just aggression and just talking. I was talking.

Joe Budden (15:28)

That was like you had a spring on ball, folks. You just. You burned that back. You threw that. You dish. You ran to the bench. You was like. Yeah, I was like, oh my God. Like I was losing my. My marble.

Carl Anthony Towns (15:44)

I laugh. I laugh because I felt. When it's basketball, I laugh because I was talking about it actually before I just came to the podcast, I was saying how. What the hell was I thinking? Because before that was the turnaround fade away going out of bounds. And I said, you take one bad shot to go compound it with a worse shot. But for me, in that moment, those felt like I was wide open.

Joe Budden (16:05)

So basket was this big.

Carl Anthony Towns (16:07)

Yeah, I was. I felt that I had a good.

Joe Budden (16:08)

A good look at you had to do that. That was. That kind of.

Carl Anthony Towns (16:11)

I mean we, we. We needed to win, man. We needed to win. I was. I was planning. I was never planning to lose that game. That was so. I was not gonna allow that to happen.

Jada (16:22)

Now he played all 82 games the 20152016 season, averaging 18.3 points, 10 and a half rebound.

Carl Anthony Towns (16:33)

Not a bad rookie year.

Jada (16:35)

Yeah, that's great. That's just damn great numbers as a rookie.

Carl Anthony Towns (16:38)

Yeah.

Jada (16:39)

What was it like and what was kd? What kind of crazy shit was kg?

Carl Anthony Towns (16:44)

KG was going crazy, man. He's. That was. I was with on. On the team when he did the. When he called Eric Gordon trash. I was with. I was with. I was on the team on that one.

Joe Budden (16:55)

KG don't give a fuck.

Jada (16:56)

Nah.

Carl Anthony Towns (16:56)

I love that.

Joe Budden (16:57)

I love. We don't bring him up enough as one of the tough guys in the NBA. KG was tough.

Carl Anthony Towns (17:03)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (17:04)

I mean like he didn't give a. Nah.

Carl Anthony Towns (17:07)

Like, you know what's cool about him too.

Joe Budden (17:08)

It was like punch a rap in the face. No, I'm telling you who, who he went out of with.

Jada (17:14)

I think.

Joe Budden (17:14)

I think they almost fought. He was. Told him some crazy.

Carl Anthony Towns (17:18)

KG told KG it's his own. Yeah.

Joe Budden (17:23)

Bottom patrol, right. You. He said he.

Jada (17:26)

He didn't.

Joe Budden (17:27)

He know what I'm talking about. He said before you even remember, he's his own bottle patron. Don't even go down that road. Don't let your mind remind you that was an ugly one. Right? Oh my God.

Carl Anthony Towns (17:41)

KG's different, man. He's different. And you know, I was appreciating. It's like his energy, you know, went through the whole locker room. Just like the way he approached the Game the way he. You know, he played with so much passion, and it was cool to be able to have someone like that.

Jada (17:56)

Who's that on?

Joe Budden (17:57)

Who's that on? The Knicks now, that got that well last year. I don't think y' all got him this year. Last year, I seen, you know, I coach at the Rucker, you know, special qualification.

Carl Anthony Towns (18:08)

Hey, I want everyone on camera to understand. Everyone behind the camera.

Joe Budden (18:14)

Yo, listen, it's hard to win them chips at the Rucker, but it takes a special. It's almost a spiritual to wake everybody up and get everybody to win a championship. It takes. I seen PJ Tucker trying that last year on the bench. Like, let's go. You know, he was. Who's the guy on the Knicks now, currently that. Like, let's go.

Carl Anthony Towns (18:41)

And I feel like PJ was great for us last year. And like you said, you saw him contribute to us, you know, I think he's, like, at 20 years in NBA, you know, I'm hoping that we get to see him in the NBA this year as well, you know. You know, we. Us, as a team haven't got a chance to get together yet. So I'm to see.

Joe Budden (19:00)

Yeah.

Carl Anthony Towns (19:01)

You know, what I'm trying to say, to see where the vibes are at. So I think that right now, you know, everyone's working on their game to bring their best version to the table so that we could.

Joe Budden (19:08)

I like getting Africa champ. That just got from Philly.

Carl Anthony Towns (19:12)

Oh, Gershon.

Jada (19:13)

Oh, African. He's not African.

Joe Budden (19:16)

He is African. Listen, Hell, I'll throw the flag. Oh, let me tell you something.

Carl Anthony Towns (19:22)

We even pick a flag, just both of them.

Joe Budden (19:24)

Listen, he's from Africa.

Jada (19:25)

We gotta get you a list.

Joe Budden (19:27)

Can you Google where he really from? Is he from Nigeria? Ladies and gentlemen, I just told you, I love the guy. I'm a fucking huge fan.

Jada (19:34)

Fan can't love him. You even know where he's from?

Joe Budden (19:37)

He's not. All right. Can you. Can you. Oh, he's Dominican. No, not the big African.

Jada (19:42)

All flags for that.

Joe Budden (19:43)

From the France. He's Dominican. You got another Dominican on the team. Did you know that?

Jada (19:49)

No, he ain't from Africa.

Joe Budden (19:51)

You got the wrong guy.

Jada (19:53)

No, he.

Joe Budden (19:53)

Yo, Gerson, he's Dominican, dog.

Jada (19:58)

We gotta get him a list.

Joe Budden (20:00)

Play that shit again.

Jada (20:01)

Keeps describing people by mail.

Joe Budden (20:03)

And my mail and my mail. We got. You know what I expected, man?

Carl Anthony Towns (20:09)

What?

Joe Budden (20:09)

From you. Well, I can tell you right now what you need to do.

Jada (20:12)

I need all of these.

Joe Budden (20:13)

I think. I think you. I'm not telling you what to do with your money. Right. But you should have, like, a foundation to sell. A bunch of Dominicans every game, and they playing the fucking music up on the stairs and they just going crazy. It should be the call home. Home games at the Knicks. I expected that. I swear to God. Like, just me being a fan.

Carl Anthony Towns (20:38)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (20:39)

You know, I grew up Washington night, so I know how you get down. So I thought you was gonna have like a. They was gonna have a. A section up there. Like, yo, just go Family Immigra.

Jada (20:54)

All the families immigrated from the Congo.

Joe Budden (20:57)

He's from the Congo. Oh, he's Dominican. Play the song. Yo, they say he was going to go with the joke there. I know the guys from Africa, bro. Why y' all trying to fake me out like that, man?

Jada (21:10)

Everybody from Africa.

Joe Budden (21:12)

Yes. I kiss. You know, I'm chopping. This thing is crazy with this. Well, I love this.

Carl Anthony Towns (21:19)

This is. This is a great podcast.

Joe Budden (21:23)

How does Clarkson.

Carl Anthony Towns (21:25)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (21:25)

Oh, you accidental.

Jada (21:27)

He just told you. They didn't see each other yet. They working.

Joe Budden (21:30)

What are you thinking in your mind? But yeah, like. Because scoring.

Jada (21:34)

Thinking scoring.

Joe Budden (21:35)

He's just gonna. Pure score.

Carl Anthony Towns (21:37)

I mean, for sure.

Jada (21:39)

Some off the bench, though.

Joe Budden (21:40)

You do. You do.

Carl Anthony Towns (21:42)

You always need firepower and to expect. I think as fans, it's going to be. It's. And as players just. You have to understand you need firepower because you never know what's going to happen in the year. You know, you never know who's going to be healthy. You never know what's going to happen. But if always you got a backup plan and you got people who are just as willing to start as anybody. I think that's what's going to make us special. You know, you got it. You got to be able to have those people. Like, if you look at championship teams, you know, it's. Most of. Some of the times it's. The ones that win you the championship are not the starting five. It's that guy on the bench. Sean Livingston's the.

Joe Budden (22:16)

You got a hell of a team over there, Andre. You got a hell of a team in Minnesota.

Carl Anthony Towns (22:20)

Yeah.

Jada (22:21)

Come on.

Joe Budden (22:21)

There's room is.

Jada (22:22)

Hold on. Let me get. Because you.

Joe Budden (22:23)

Yo, let me tweak out.

Jada (22:25)

You take the damn. Listen to this. Let's cut the. You got long history with Tips from Minnesota. Yeah, all the way over here. What's going on?

Carl Anthony Towns (22:36)

I love when people ask me that. And I said, boy, I only been here six months. What you want me to say? But I just talked to Tips. He's good. We. We just. We had Dinner and everything else.

Jada (22:45)

It's politics. And they always seem to think that play. No, because in the.

Carl Anthony Towns (22:49)

Yeah.

Jada (22:49)

In the. In the music industry.

Carl Anthony Towns (22:50)

Yeah.

Jada (22:51)

If something happens with the executive, I don't have no fucking idea what's going on upstairs.

Carl Anthony Towns (22:56)

I've been here. I was here six months. I have no. I was with my man. And Tibbs is my man's too.

Jada (23:02)

Each his own bottle patrol. And then next.

Joe Budden (23:04)

That's the answer. Each his own bottle patron. With no one, really. It's like.

Jada (23:08)

Pete, we New Yorkers, listen. We just want to know. We very concerned. You see us at.

Carl Anthony Towns (23:14)

But. Nah, but shout out to him, though, you know, like, obviously, I was in Minnesota before I got here, but, like.

Joe Budden (23:18)

Watching him just do so many. I met him before.

Jada (23:21)

Why are we. Why are we doing this?

Joe Budden (23:23)

I definitely bring him up here.

Jada (23:25)

Hello.

Joe Budden (23:26)

Yeah, that's a good one. Tims was in my house before I was in my house.

Jada (23:31)

Huh?

Joe Budden (23:33)

You see, I'm building.

Jada (23:37)

Tim, you.

Joe Budden (23:39)

What you mean by that?

Jada (23:43)

Before you was in your house?

Joe Budden (23:45)

What?

Jada (23:45)

The poltergeist is going on World Wide.

Joe Budden (23:49)

West lives across the street from my house. As I was building my house. I wasn't. I didn't even live there yet. Fucking Wes gave Timbs a tour of my house. Yo, Joe's gonna put the marble bar here. He's gonna just. Tibbs say, yo, you better watch your neighbors. This man done took me in your house.

Jada (24:07)

Showed him the blueprints.

Joe Budden (24:09)

Showed him the blueprints. Yo, this. This is where we're gonna have pool parties, man. Yeah. Let me tell you, Coach Tibbs, amazing job. Amazing job with the Knicks.

Carl Anthony Towns (24:21)

Tibbs came to New York, changed the.

Jada (24:23)

Culture, changed the whole.

Carl Anthony Towns (24:24)

Brought New York back to winning culture. Yeah. I got to the Eastern Conference finals last year. And that's not just the players. That's a testament to the coaching staff, the work they put in. And you got to give credit all around to those guys, you know, they put the work in and they got us in the position and gave us a chance to succeed. So Tibbs is special. I think anyone who knows basketball knows he's special. I got nothing but love for Tibbs. Shout out to Tibbs, man.

Joe Budden (24:49)

I'm definitely gonna smile with nobody. I got pictures smiling with him.

Carl Anthony Towns (24:52)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (24:53)

Nah, with a coach.

Carl Anthony Towns (24:54)

Nah, I'm happy.

Jada (24:55)

I used to love sitting and watching. Sit there and flip, talking.

Carl Anthony Towns (24:59)

Just go crazy.

Jada (25:00)

Yeah, yeah.

Joe Budden (25:02)

He'S. He walking back and forth, cursing himself out in the side like, yo, this crazy, man.

Jada (25:08)

I love.

Carl Anthony Towns (25:09)

I love tips, man. And, you know, like, you have any.

Joe Budden (25:12)

Experience with Coach Brow or. Not yet. We ain't starting.

Carl Anthony Towns (25:15)

I haven't. Not yet. Not yet, so. But I'm excited to get to work. You know, basketball's fun. You know, it's. I know I say work and I say job, but it really. It's when you having fun and you passionate. I think both of you, I know, as legends, y' all having fun and passionate writing and making music and touring and stuff, it. It doesn't feel like work. It feels like a blessing, you know.

Joe Budden (25:34)

He'S almost like a fucking Cinderella season for y' all now.

Carl Anthony Towns (25:38)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (25:39)

You know, and no, and. And with no disrespect, a lot of major guys got injured, so you got Halliburton injured, the star of Indiana, Tatum. You got Tatum injured, the star of Boston injured and traded. Boston done turned. I'd never seen no shit like this. They don't want to trade it. The whole team.

Carl Anthony Towns (25:57)

Yeah. Brazilians is in Atlanta.

Jada (26:02)

Zingis Horford is out.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:04)

Drew Highlander, Horford out. No Horford. No, Horford's there. He's still there.

Jada (26:09)

The captain.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:09)

Yeah, Horford's still there. Drew Holiday.

Jada (26:15)

And they got rid of.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:15)

The big guy, A Brazen in Atlanta.

Jada (26:17)

No, the other thing.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:18)

Oh, Cornette.

Jada (26:19)

Yeah, they sent Cornette to this, right?

Carl Anthony Towns (26:22)

Where?

Jada (26:22)

They sent Cornette to the spurs or somewhere.

Joe Budden (26:27)

When that happened.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:28)

I know, I know, but I didn't know if they signed him back.

Joe Budden (26:31)

Yo, you already on.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:32)

Four days ago.

Joe Budden (26:33)

You call an African guy, Dominican, New York, right now.

Jada (26:38)

He's going to this. He's going to the Golden State.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:40)

He going to Golden State.

Joe Budden (26:42)

That's a major pick.

Jada (26:43)

I told y', all, Dominican, man.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:45)

I see him in the NBA is.

Joe Budden (26:47)

The hardest thing to do.

Jada (26:48)

Next in NBA.

Carl Anthony Towns (26:49)

Shout out to him, man. Shout out to my bet.

Joe Budden (26:52)

You know, I never understood why, like, young players don't abuse the older guys. Like.

Jada (26:59)

What?

Joe Budden (27:01)

Pause again. Yo, listen, we didn't even have to show that. Y' all know, I mean, like, to me, I can't move like I moved when I was 20 years old. I don't care how talented an older player is. You're roast. You gotta stop. I can't move like I moved 20 years ago. So, like, a guy like you with no disrespect.

Carl Anthony Towns (27:25)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (27:26)

Like, I would think you should just go to the rack on Al Hoffet all day. That's just in possibly.

Jada (27:32)

I gotta genetically.

Joe Budden (27:34)

Huh?

Jada (27:34)

I gotta step in because I can't get fined in none of that. They was you the playoffs. They was fouling the hell out of you, dog.

Carl Anthony Towns (27:45)

I'm not. I'm used to it.

Jada (27:46)

Yo, yo. This last whole season, I don't know was the. They was. It was. They was mad because you came to the city and you had the whole city but you got. They missed. A lot of you was getting pushed off your. You know what I mean? You're a large human being. So you could take a regular bath. He's extraordinary. He's an NBA player. The stereoglyceridator.

Joe Budden (28:18)

What?

Jada (28:19)

Listen. He jerked him on. Malcolm.

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Yo, yo, yo, yo.

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Jada (33:55)

You.

Joe Budden (33:55)

Know I was gonna ask you a question, right?

Jada (33:58)

He be.

Joe Budden (33:58)

And then he cut me off. Cause he was sticking to the script. Then he lost his mind, too, Right. The question is, you in Minnesota.

Carl Anthony Towns (34:05)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (34:06)

I was already hearing rumors that you coming to the Knicks. So was I back when Donovan Mitchell was coming to the Knicks. I already heard Carl Anthony tell, right?

Carl Anthony Towns (34:17)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (34:17)

And so you in Minnesota.

Jada (34:19)

And you.

Joe Budden (34:20)

This is home, right. At any point you saying to yourself, holy shit, I might be coming to the Knicks, and you seeing what they're doing. Are you saying, like, yo, I fit in. I did. This be crazy.

Carl Anthony Towns (34:37)

I would. I would be lying if I said I didn't see the rumors and know that there could be truth to them. So the idea of coming back home, playing for. It's well documented. My favorite team growing up to watch. My dad had a quick and early stint with the organization back in the Patrick Ewing days.

Jada (35:00)

Fire.

Carl Anthony Towns (35:01)

So it was kind of like, he dad's the coolest.

Joe Budden (35:04)

He sits.

Carl Anthony Towns (35:04)

Oh, man, he loves y'.

Joe Budden (35:06)

All.

Carl Anthony Towns (35:06)

I show him so much love y' all the time.

Joe Budden (35:09)

Oh, he be there like, yo, I already know.

Carl Anthony Towns (35:12)

He gonna be so happy when this podcast comes.

Joe Budden (35:14)

No, that's. We should have brought him here.

Carl Anthony Towns (35:17)

His dad was. His birthday was yesterday. Oh, so it's gonna be fun.

Joe Budden (35:20)

Your dad's birthday was yesterday. Rich. Player's birthday was yesterday, too. Your girlfriend?

Carl Anthony Towns (35:28)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (35:28)

Very classy young lady. It's Fashion Week, and she posted that she got a clothing line. She's stepping on the building.

Jada (35:36)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Budden (35:38)

This shit is crazy.

Jada (35:39)

Can't do, like Snoop.

Joe Budden (35:40)

What? Like Snoop crushing the buildings. That's what I'm. That's what I came home to. That's what my daughter. You know, they doing this Fashion Week shit.

Jada (35:49)

Speaking of fashion, he be having. He throw that shit on, too. He said TA Is the most fashionable NBA player ever. How could he say that? He ain't get fresh, but he. You made him Effy. He made him of all time.

Carl Anthony Towns (36:06)

Who do you think is Most fashionable?

Jada (36:08)

Like Dr. J. Dr. J come through with that shit. On with cashmere with the shit.

Joe Budden (36:14)

Most iconic picture I seen the sports dude with is. Was that Joe Namath with that fur?

Carl Anthony Towns (36:19)

I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. I think for me, basketball wise or fashion wise, I think one of the most iconic photos is seeing Allen, Iris's mom, doing his cornrows on the bench.

Joe Budden (36:29)

That's fire.

Jada (36:30)

That was it.

Joe Budden (36:31)

That's cold. We was there for all that magic.

Jada (36:34)

Did it before Broadway Joe with. He. With Michael Jackson and all them. And what about that flick Magic album?

Joe Budden (36:40)

Crazy. That flick with them.

Jada (36:41)

Your name is Bar. All this for Max?

Joe Budden (36:43)

He might have. Might have. He definitely did. Flag in the back. Hey, pass me the flag, man. What you think, man? Come on. We did four podcasts in three days, and we've been.

Jada (36:58)

There you go. The biggest shit.

Joe Budden (37:04)

Because, you know, I'm very competitive.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:06)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (37:07)

So if I get it, I got into the podcast world to be number one.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:10)

You want to be number one? You want to be the best?

Joe Budden (37:12)

The best.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:12)

I mean, but that's. But that's how y' all became legends.

Joe Budden (37:15)

That's what y' all do.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:16)

Yeah. I didn't stop at being good. It was like, I want to be great. I want to be all time, you know, that's.

Joe Budden (37:20)

And we got a new job. It's called Podcast, and, boy, we giving them hell. We've been having a good time up here, bro.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:28)

And now y'.

Joe Budden (37:30)

All.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:30)

Y' all taking over the podcast world. So shout out to y', all. But y', all, I expect nothing less from y'.

Joe Budden (37:35)

All.

Jada (37:35)

Let's keep it on the court.

Joe Budden (37:37)

You.

Jada (37:37)

You consider yourself the best big man three point shooter ever. You won the. You won. You actually won the three point.

Joe Budden (37:44)

Do you. Yeah.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:45)

Yes. No, for sure. Without a doubt.

Joe Budden (37:47)

You know, I went on Melo's show.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:49)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (37:49)

And said, you're the greatest offensive big man in the. In the league of this time. And I caught a lot of, like, I was like, arguing with the whole set.

Carl Anthony Towns (37:59)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (38:00)

And, you know, Joker's dead nice.

Carl Anthony Towns (38:02)

He's real.

Joe Budden (38:03)

What do you think about the Joker? Like, when you look at his style of play, what makes him great and different?

Carl Anthony Towns (38:11)

Hall of Fame touch around the basket, being able to write. Right hand hook, left hand hook off the backboard.

Jada (38:17)

Slows the game, slows the game down.

Carl Anthony Towns (38:19)

You know, he play. You know, I feel like not no basketball. So, like, you know, his ability to control pace. He controls the team's pace. You know, John Wall, what made him great when he became an all Star was his ability to change pace when he stopped going 150 miles per hour. And he wants to go 150 to go to 20, miles to go to 120 to go to 8. You know, I'm trying so. Changing a pace. Joker just. He. He got a Hall of Fame touch.

Jada (38:47)

He.

Carl Anthony Towns (38:48)

He's. He's extremely smart. His IQ's through the roof. He's able to pass. He's able to control the pace. The offensive scheme works with his. His. His greatest strengths. And he has teammates that believe in him. He has a coaching staff that believes in the organization that believes in him. They put him in a position to succeed. And. And he deserves that kind of respect because he put the work and he's shown the world that he could do this on a nightly basis. Man, shout out to Joker, man. I mean, he's rightfully got those MVPs. He deserves them facts.

Joe Budden (39:16)

You know, with you, I went to one game and I watched you. At least.

Jada (39:23)

At least.

Joe Budden (39:25)

Don't want to exaggerate, but I think the numbers I counted was like 10 different moves. This, that, three, the fade this to that, this. You got somebody like, what's my man? Don Trevinch. He do the same. He's great at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he got that one move right. Melo had that one fade away, right, that step.

Carl Anthony Towns (39:49)

But Melo had a triple threat. Guy was one of the best ever.

Joe Budden (39:52)

No, no, no, no. But he really had that step. Kyan is getting. No, it's lethal. That's what I'm saying. But I watched this, man. The reason why I made that statement on Melo is I've been watching basketball a long time. I never seen nobody have that variety of offense as a big man as you.

Carl Anthony Towns (40:13)

I appreciate that.

Joe Budden (40:13)

So I'm sitting on the sideline with Tracy Morgan. You know, he's a bug out.

Carl Anthony Towns (40:18)

He's a. Tracy been talking to me about the Knicks for how long?

Joe Budden (40:21)

No, that boy's a tweaker.

Jada (40:22)

We need training show forever.

Joe Budden (40:24)

We need Tracy Morgan on here because the man said what Irish Spears said. He looked like a yo.

Jada (40:29)

Yeah, yeah.

Joe Budden (40:30)

Yo, yo, yo, yo. Each his own.

Jada (40:32)

Each his own bottom patron.

Joe Budden (40:33)

Yo, he says so. But I seen you bought so many moves that I was just like, yo, this guy's like, really is unstoppable because people always got one move, maybe two moves. Yeah, you got so many different bags.

Jada (40:47)

You got a bag.

Carl Anthony Towns (40:48)

I'm a reactive player. I mean, I grew up in Jersey playing in the parks, like I said, coming to New York, playing in a Rucker park gauchos. You play with older kids. You're. You're always like, you're 15, you're playing. You, you 17. You know, you're playing. I younger than that. I was playing U16. U17. You know, my dad and I always believed, you know, if you want to be the best, you got to go against the best. And when I was younger, never accept being good like, y' all always want to chase greatness. So, you know, I wanted the best competition I could find in Tri State and I wanted to test my skills every single weekend.

Joe Budden (41:19)

That who you saw play. You ever watched like a Kobe game or something like that with you? Like me, we used to watch wrestling and after wrestling with clotheslines.

Jada (41:27)

Yeah.

Carl Anthony Towns (41:27)

Nah, for sure. I grew up in that attitude era and all. Yeah.

Joe Budden (41:31)

Was you doing that like going out in the snow, kobe fade away, or like, like, who was a. Who was a player that you was.

Carl Anthony Towns (41:39)

You know, I say, you know, people. I was having this conversation the other day, too. I love that I get to talk about my life a little bit. But I was having this conversation, funny enough with my girl. And I was saying, you know, sometimes in life you get lucky. Sometimes it's God given, and sometimes you just work so hard that you just garner that skill. And some, for some fortunate people, they get all three and they be able to have that mindset, God and luck on their side. And I was telling her, I said, for me, I think I really had, in a way, all three coincided with my career. But I really believe that it was really two things. The two that I got really, that I had in my possession was luck. And I worked so hard to be this good and find a way to be great at my craft that I just had no option other than to plan A is plan A, go for being an NBA player. But my luck came from my father, because my father was a high school coach. And one of the hardest things to do when you're young and you're broke is to have a gym. And my dad being a high school coach, I had keys to a hardwood floor that was great. Not like a hardwood floor that was like, okay, I'm talking about a really good hardwood floor playing basketball. So I had somewhere to work on my craft. And I had a father that also was athletic and agile enough and talented enough, like I said, where he was able to rebound for me and also understand what I truly needed to do. And for me, with the work aspect, you know, I had to show up, you know, as a young kid too. I had to dedicate my childhood, my. My whole childhood. Like all the things other kids got to do and stuff and experience, I ain't get that chance. Cause I was in the gym and I was working sacrifice, you know, and I was willing to do that. And at an early age, I remember even thinking about that, like, you know, maybe I want to go to that, you know, that party, obviously younger, like, party at whatever it may be. Chuck E. Cheese, I want to go to the park more, hang out with My friends, I was, you know, I was in the generation that still. You didn't know someone was home unless the bike was in front, you know, So I was still in that generation. So I dedicated my childhood to being great at sports and basketball and baseball is my love of basketball. And to have a hardwood core, I feel that that gave me a huge advantage on the competition and it allowed me to work on all these moves. And I was riding bike to the library, looking at getting the VHS's, putting it, the VHS in and watching, you know, the great play. Hakeem Olajuwon, getting to see, you know, kg, getting to see Sam Perkins. For me, you know, I was looking back in the day, Eddie Jones and Gary Payton and Pistol P. And I like just Magic Johnson, of course. So it was like one of those things where I dedicate my childhood to studying the game, you know, being part of the culture.

Joe Budden (44:36)

I'm very similar. I'm not trying to put myself on your level, but like, this guy was born a rapper. Like, I don't think if you ain't rap, what you was gonna do.

Carl Anthony Towns (44:44)

I mean, one of the best lyrics.

Jada (44:46)

That you've ever heard.

Joe Budden (44:47)

What are you gonna do for him? Eminem, Jay Z, Pun. Yeah, these guys was born with this shit. Yeah, right.

Carl Anthony Towns (44:54)

I had to practice Shout out to Pun, too.

Joe Budden (44:56)

I would have been in pharmaceuticals recipes, but I had to practice. And then it was a time where we was the hottest dudes in the world. I mean, the hottest dudes.

Carl Anthony Towns (45:06)

I mean, I was here, I was the one. My mom would tell me, go get the radio.

Joe Budden (45:09)

Put the radio on and you see what I'm saying? And we. And Pun. Well, I signed. He was my student. I brought him in the game. Yeah, he taught me how to rap better. And it's summertime and they pulling up in the Benzes, in the trucks, and they're like, yo, it's popping B. Yo, over here. This, this, that. Probably like that. We got it right. Yeah, you gotta work on your. And it's summertime. 90 something degrees and they pulling up. Yo, we're gonna pull up Orchard Beach. Yo, it's on out there. This and that. Ringing. Number one on the radio. Puma was like, nah, fuck that, we gonna stay here. You gotta get better, bro. You gotta get nice. You gotta get this and this and that. And that was a big yo. So many summers I sacrificed, you know, instead of going outside, enjoying, like, when you get a hit, right? This is the difference between maybe basketball and rap. Like, when you get a hit, everybody's Praying for it. Yeah, you get a hit, you go get the bag. You're either promoting that hit till it becomes a hit, and then once it's a hit, you go get the bag. You can't stand in your neighborhood, you can't go to Dykon and be like, lean back and watch the crowd. It don't work like that. You busy going to get the check, performing all over. We don't get same with you facts. You don't get that rush. You don't get to stand there. You can't go to Yonkers and be like, yeah, you too busy running around the world. You know what I'm saying?

Carl Anthony Towns (46:35)

I was talking to my girl yesterday about this because, you know, shout out to her again. She had her, she had her New York Fashion Week event here in New York at the Knickerbocker.

Joe Budden (46:43)

Yeah, that photo shoot was flying. Yeah.

Carl Anthony Towns (46:44)

Nah, she. I'm super proud of her all the time. And I was telling her I'm proud of her and I told her she had her event early in the day. I went to work, I did, you know, took care of business, went to the event and I told her, I said, I want you to enjoy today, enjoy the wins. Because the winds are short lived and the losses, they last for a long time. And I was telling her and she was like, what you mean? I was like, let's put it just an example for me in my life. We beat Boston. New York's going crazy.

Joe Budden (47:11)

The excitement that's through the roof, never.

Carl Anthony Towns (47:13)

Been like that in 25 years.

Joe Budden (47:15)

And police was letting them climb. The police, man.

Carl Anthony Towns (47:19)

Police was trying to do their job.

Joe Budden (47:20)

They said, don't let what's jumping out of the fans celebrating. And they not wrong.

Carl Anthony Towns (47:26)

New York's not wrong. 25 years, you supposed to have these celebrations. You're supposed to, you know, yearn for these moments. Hell no. Hell, go, go have fun. This is the moment. This is what we work for. We work so the fans can have these moments.

Joe Budden (47:39)

That shit was like a dream come.

Jada (47:41)

Yeah, but literally everybody, it's the world against New York. So they was.

Carl Anthony Towns (47:45)

So let New York have a moment of celebration then. They deserve it, man. And I was, what I'm going back to the point was saying that when we won, you know, of course it was late night when we won, obviously. So you have that night, you know, the team got together, documented, we went out, celebrated as a team with each other. But you know, you got four hours. We celebrate. Great job. But tomorrow is back to work. The win is four hours.

Joe Budden (48:12)

Lived tomorrow's crazy part of the playoffs.

Carl Anthony Towns (48:15)

You get what I'm trying to say? So it's four hours.

Joe Budden (48:18)

I was in Dubai when y' all lost. That shit was day.

Carl Anthony Towns (48:20)

So here we go, get to that point. Four hours. We got to celebrate that win. We right back to work tomorrow. Indiana playbook book. You know, Tibbs is a, you know, he studies, you know, he's like that. So we get these books, these, they write this tall, they talk about, yo, you got, you know, this play that play, this play that play. We getting quizzed and stuff. So it's four hours, you right back to the next, to the next, to the next job. I said, but when we lost in Indiana, drag it six months now we wait until September 22nd to go get back together to try to remedy the mistake, you know. So I was telling her, enjoy these moments and these wins. Cause the wins are short lived and the losses last a long time. I mean, we the New York Knicks.

Joe Budden (49:04)

Everyone, every game's a championship, especially if you playing at the Garden.

Carl Anthony Towns (49:09)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (49:09)

Cause everybody, we just John Wall, everybody. You know how many, you know how many NBA players, I went to their house and they got the post up when they dropped 46 against the Knicks. I'm like, yo, you couldn't showed the against Kobe, LeBron. Why gotta be the Knicks that you score 50 on and this and this and that.

Carl Anthony Towns (49:26)

The Garden brings a different energy world.

Jada (49:28)

The most famous arena.

Joe Budden (49:29)

Literally, you walking in there, even if it's a game, you walking in Madison Square G. What that feel like?

Carl Anthony Towns (49:36)

Walking? Man, you, you, there ain't no, there ain't no games in the NBA. Everyone's. You need every win, you know.

Joe Budden (49:44)

No, I agree, but I'm just saying what it feel like to you. Do you ever go there extra early and just look up the car and be like, yo, all the time, all the time.

Carl Anthony Towns (49:51)

I'm there early every game. I'm there games at 7:30, I'm there 4 o', clock, I'm lifting, I'm on the court. I remember I was there so early in the playoffs. You was doing sound check, you remember. I came out, I was listening. I just sat there just to see the performance. I was like in the game, I'm too locked in. I'm not even going to be wanting to hear nothing else but basketball. So like every day I show up at the Garden, I know there probably is gonna be one kid, at least one kid, one family, one adult that spent their last money they got for themselves to go to a Knicks game. And they Wanna see their favorite players play. I wanna show up every night and play, you know? Cause I know that there's someone there that put extra hours at their job in to spend their hard work money to go and watch us play, watch me play. And there could be nothing more disappointing than me not playing.

Jada (50:46)

I see you doing a lot in the community, a lot of business ventures. How important is it to give back?

Carl Anthony Towns (50:52)

It's very important. I mean, this is like you said, God gave me the gift. And as soon as I discredit the gift, it'll take it away. So I gotta pay forward. And the Dominican Republic doing a bunch of great work over there for the kids.

Joe Budden (51:06)

And everyone getting down with the A rod. You've been to that joint?

Carl Anthony Towns (51:11)

No, I have not. No, I have not. What is it?

Joe Budden (51:19)

Yo? I don't want to blow it up. Hey, yeah, yeah. It's a vacation spot in Santo Domingo.

Carl Anthony Towns (51:24)

I know about that.

Joe Budden (51:25)

That looked like Fiji Island.

Carl Anthony Towns (51:27)

I went there because it's with my family.

Joe Budden (51:30)

It is beyond beautiful. Like, it's like. It's no way you thought on this side of the earth there's something that beautiful. And I'm talking about Turks. This, that what, what you name them. There's nothing that looks like that. Everybody goes to something to me and go on the other side. But your man award, I think he invested like 10 billion or something. Yeah, to make some cribs over there or something. That what happened. No, I'm ch.

Jada (51:57)

No mizaging.

Joe Budden (52:00)

How much?

Jada (52:01)

Google.

Joe Budden (52:01)

Google. Two times.

Jada (52:03)

Damn.

Joe Budden (52:04)

The guy taking notes is two time. Fellas. Yo. Hey, Rod. How much money invested in Santo Domingo, the new resort? A billion dollars. No, it's Fat Joe, dude. It's fat Joe, right? 10 billion, 1 billion. What's the difference? 7 billion. 1 billion. What you want me to do like. Well, I'm painting the picture. You need to get with that. I promise you that's going to be a success out there.

Carl Anthony Towns (52:32)

I need, I need. I got you don't worry about that.

Jada (52:35)

He telling you what to do.

Carl Anthony Towns (52:39)

Now?

Joe Budden (52:40)

Let me saying that he's investing.

Carl Anthony Towns (52:42)

Nah. Yeah.

Joe Budden (52:42)

I'm telling you what's going to win. That is going to win. Yeah, that is going to win. The place is.

Carl Anthony Towns (52:49)

It's unbelievable.

Joe Budden (52:50)

Believable. Phenomenal.

Carl Anthony Towns (52:52)

Come on. Yeah.

Joe Budden (52:53)

Three hours away. When you go there, you're going to be like, yo, this shit is crippled. But they cost money to go in there.

Carl Anthony Towns (52:58)

What I will say though is for me, I'm not looking to make money in Dr. I'm looking to give money to Dr. Okay.

Joe Budden (53:05)

You know, don't slow them.

Carl Anthony Towns (53:06)

I'm trying to nurture the soil that's there. I don't want to take anything from the growing. I don't want to take anything from our people. I want to give to our people. I want to give them the chance.

Joe Budden (53:16)

Some of the best people in the world. There's nothing like Dominicans. The most fun, amazing, most giving. Can we get this food? My mail and my mail. And my neighbor, you know, I got an Italian friend, Stevie Matarano, one of the best chefs in the world. He always goes, yo, cuz, who don't want to be Italian? I'm ready to say, yo, yo, papitos, who don't want to be Dominicano.

Carl Anthony Towns (53:40)

I just, I just for me, God has given me the chance. And I always say, like, I appreciate the gift of this game and the game of basketball and the life and the luck I talked about earlier that I had. But money's not fulfilling to me anymore. When I was younger, it was always a chase of like every young artist, you bring up the bag, the money falling out. Like, I'm not fulfilled by that. You know, I don't need that anymore. I'm fulfilled by. In New York, I always talk about it. It's the greatest currency you can get in New York. It's respect. And that's all I look for these days is just respect. That's all I need.

Joe Budden (54:17)

You know, when that plane come back to New York, because, you know, I live in Miami and New York, when I go to Miami, I'm like, come on, everybody. Once you do that, come. That's what I'm thinking when that plane going down. But when I come in here and the shit coming down, I'm hearing there's a wall going on outside. Nobody's safe from you looking at it. Just feel like the whole New York's a project building. You looking out the plane, that shit going down. You like. It's a different type of Teflon you gotta have. But when you big. When the kids got your post in Coney island in Bay Ridge, that's respect. Yonkers come on in the Bron in Harlem and the Lower east side in Staten island and they all screaming your name. This is. Yeah, if you want to get popping, this is where you want to me popping. Come on.

Carl Anthony Towns (55:09)

Think about kids like you said, family making ends meet. You know, people in a 200 square foot apartment, 500 square foot apartment, and they willing to dedicate some of their wall space to have you on the wall.

Joe Budden (55:22)

The love is that's respect. The love is unreal. And I argue with everybody. Shout out to my man first. I argue with all the barbers, everybody.

Carl Anthony Towns (55:30)

And Christmas games.

Joe Budden (55:31)

I was arguing for you. Yeah, Rich. Where's Rich, Player? His barber was dumb type. They traded Randall. I was like, yo, call Anthony. And I love Randle. Yeah, tough guy. Love him. His family salute them. But I was super excited. And I start arguing with the whole barbershop. And I'm like, yo, bro. And then when it was, when we went to the finals, I'll face. I was like, what's up? Oh, yo, you kind of was right. This, this that. I told you I was right. What do we gotta do? Are we gonna see a championship in New York City, Coach?

Carl Anthony Towns (56:04)

That's the plan.

Jada (56:05)

We hope so.

Joe Budden (56:06)

Plan. Yeah.

Carl Anthony Towns (56:07)

I ain't come here. I ain't coming to be good. It couldn't be great all time. You gotta. You gotta be, you know, striving for greatness every day.

Joe Budden (56:14)

There's a lot of guys try to get close, but no cigar. A lot of guys is cool with being number two. A lot of guys. You telling me that the DNA and the mindset of the New York Knicks, when they behind the scenes and y' all together is saying, yo, we gonna win this championship?

Carl Anthony Towns (56:31)

I mean, did not last year not prove that?

Joe Budden (56:33)

No, no.

Carl Anthony Towns (56:33)

You know, I'm trying to stay down 20 both times. Game one and game two in Boston slowed on. You know what I'm trying to say. We never thought the game was over. I know everyone was ready at the house, turning ATV to other channels, watching other games. I don't know what they was watching.

Joe Budden (56:47)

The game was going.

Carl Anthony Towns (56:49)

So, you know, I try to say, here we are.

Joe Budden (56:51)

The cane is coming, baby. The train, the first podcast I came in playing that from. What was that? That movie? Money Train. The train is coming, baby.

Carl Anthony Towns (57:00)

Yeah.

Joe Budden (57:01)

He was like, yo, what's that? I was like, yo, the train's coming.

Carl Anthony Towns (57:03)

Yeah, I just. You just.

Jada (57:05)

You.

Joe Budden (57:05)

You.

Carl Anthony Towns (57:05)

You can't let anything cloud your mind of the vision you got. And there ain't been a time we ain't walk in there with having championship standards, you know, and obviously last year, we didn't.

Joe Budden (57:19)

We.

Carl Anthony Towns (57:19)

We came up short. He coming back 25 years in the making just to get to that point. And now, you know, you gotta work even harder to get to the next step.

Jada (57:29)

What day is the Cleveland.

Carl Anthony Towns (57:30)

What is September 22nd? No, no, no, no.

Jada (57:32)

October. October 22nd. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, this ain't that, and that ain't this is cracking kiss. Make some noise for our guests. Anthony, Carl, Anthony, I appreciate it. Thank you.

Carl Anthony Towns (57:46)

Thank you.

Jada (57:48)

On another legendary episode of Joe and Jaden.

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