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Nigel Sylvester
A few weeks ago we was down in Florida, met with MJ for breakfast and I gifted him the first pair of brick after brick. Now, you guys are the second to get gifted, man.
Joe Budden
This is a honor, but we're try this at home.
Jada
Yo. Welcome to a new episode of Joe and Jada, brought to you by our presenting sponsor, 1800.
Joe Budden
Keep it 1800. Y' all heard one. What's up, y'? All? It's the biggest in the game. Joe. Crack the dawn.
Jada
You know who it is. Your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic.
Joe Budden
Go fuck yourself. We the biggest in the game. Nobody's close. Go ahead, kiss, man. Roll it out.
Jada
Talk your shit, man. When you think of today's guest, you think of a pretty solid individual. You know what I mean?
Joe Budden
Pretty.
Jada
More than pretty solid. You think of a hell of a guy, nice guy, cyclist. You think of queens, you think of community. You think of the bag, because he got a hell of a lot of endorsements. One of the most guys with the most endorsements you're going to ever see in your life, he gives back. Yeah, yeah, that community. He does stuff in the hood for the hood, for the people. Always. No matter how, how, how grand of a person he becomes, he never forgets where he's from. And that's very important, big time. You think of bikes, you think of tricks, you think of doing some amazing content all over the world. In the air, on the ground, underwater. I mean, whatever you can think of, he's done. You think of sneakers. I don't know how he managed to get these deals. He dropped Air Force ones. He came with Jordans. He still doing Jordans. Now he got the apparel that's looking like 5th Ave apparel to go with this sneaker. There's nothing this man can't do. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother, Nigel Sylvester.
Joe Budden
Wow.
Nigel Sylvester
Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. That was. That was crazy.
Jada
Welcome to the show.
Joe Budden
Nigel Sylvester, man. Sneaker of the year. Tell me about that. Everybody got sneakers and what they got, you know, I got Maya with me. And he talked. You know, May is borderline street guy, borderline clean cut sneaker guy.
Jada
What a hell of a description.
Joe Budden
Yeah, yeah. Cause you talked about. I've been wearing Saccony since I was a fucking baby. Get the out of here with that pronunciation. They got his Adidas all day. I dream about sex or it's the Coneys, it ain't no sauconies. And like that. Out of here with that.
Nigel Sylvester
I thought it was the same thing. That's how I pronounced it, too.
Jada
That's what I thought it was, right? Until.
Joe Budden
No, he told me it's saccharines today, like Packers.
Jada
Mike Packer's the one who told me
Joe Budden
was in the cold. He was like, yo, saucony.
Jada
Mike Packer told me the proper pronunciation was saucony. It still don't fit.
Joe Budden
Think of all these sneakers. We got a guy on here who's a cereal penny loafer, sneaker guy, man. He got a sneaker. That's a penny loafer.
Jada
It's a leaker.
Joe Budden
Yo, yo.
Jada
Hey, yo, don't pull it, though.
Joe Budden
No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is this. Yo, does he actually have a penny in the thing?
Jada
No, he got the silver joint. So he should throw a nickel.
Joe Budden
He should throw a nickel or diamond.
Jada
Yeah, he need a diamond, yo.
Joe Budden
Put a dime in his shit right there. But with all these sneakers, right? Yo, Nigel, with all these sneakers, right? You want Sneaker of the Year, man?
Nigel Sylvester
Incredible.
Joe Budden
What did that feel like?
Nigel Sylvester
Incredible. I had no idea what was gonna happen. Right? When we dropped the Brick by Bricks, the energy was building. So all year, people are talking about it. I'm like, listen, I just wanted to put out a dope project. Whatever happens after that happens. So we're in Vegas and they're doing the complex show. You was on stage. I was there. You was on stage. We were close by, like, watching the live stream. They start to go down from 10, 9, 8.
Joe Budden
Oh, so you did. You did not know it was gonna be.
Nigel Sylvester
I had no idea.
Joe Budden
No, I had no idea. What they told you ahead of time you're gonna come down.
Nigel Sylvester
I had no idea.
Joe Budden
Oh, that's crazy. I was fighting for you.
Nigel Sylvester
Like, we were prepared for it, but I had no idea.
Joe Budden
I didn't have to fight, but I was fighting for it.
Jada
No, no, it was no worries.
Nigel Sylvester
I appreciate that. So we had preparation for it just in case it did happen. And when he announced it, man, like, he put on that stove guard cocaine cologne, we were just in the sprinter van, just, like, celebrating, bro. All my people's with me. It was a beautiful feeling, man. I've been working so hard as far as, like, BMX in and then being at Nike for so long, working on shoes, working on apparel and whatnot.
Joe Budden
The color. Who came up with that colorway right there? Because that colorway, brick by brick, it's crazy. That's what did it. That's what made it the sneaker. When I saw that, right? Tell you the truth, I, like, hoarded them shits.
Nigel Sylvester
How many pairs you got?
Joe Budden
Like, I Got like, maybe like four pair, but. But I don't really wear them.
Nigel Sylvester
Why not?
Joe Budden
I just look at him and call him the Sneaker of the year. I don't know why some shit is like a museum, a hieroglyphic or some shit, right? I look, just yesterday, my stylist was in my house getting some outfits for today, and there he is. I said, yo, Nigel Sylvester coming. He said, well, maybe you want to wear the brick. I said, nah, you know, I don't really wear the brick by brick. Like, that shit is special right there. Like, you can't.
Jada
No, I look at him. I do that, too. He go, just too fly.
Nigel Sylvester
I love that. I love it.
Joe Budden
No, it's too flat, man.
Nigel Sylvester
I love that. I appreciate that.
Joe Budden
And so what? How would the. You seen a couple of colors and you was like, yo, this is it.
Nigel Sylvester
Now, we went into the process knowing we're gonna do an all red four. So sat with the team, shout out to Frank Cook.
Jada
That was the guy. Frank. Frank. I'm waiting on my package, Paul.
Joe Budden
All right, I'm gonna tell y' all something. That's crazy, right? That's crazy. You shot out Frank Cook, right? Because some white guy got on stage when we won Sneaker of the Year. He was like, yeah, he designed it. They was like, yo, the guy did. And I knew, allegedly through, you know, I'm a sneaker collector. That Frank Cook, you know, chef it up with you. But they had a white guy came on stage acting. That's that shit. I'll tell you about. I don't know about all that music. Somebody win a Grammy, and the nigga, come on, you never even met him in your life. He stands next to you and tells everybody how he did it.
Nigel Sylvester
Crazy.
Joe Budden
I had one of the moments with your sneaker in Vegas. Swear to my mother, rest in peace, I'm on stage, Sneaker of the year, and they bring some white dude on stage with me, and he took the credit. And I'm sitting there with the dude, and. I know, right?
Jada
I hope it wasn't Phil Knight.
Joe Budden
No, it wasn't. It wasn't Phil Knight. I'm telling you, there's this shit I be hating. I. Look, sometimes I think Jadakiss, he has a good time, and he really just don't listen to me, right? All I do is listen to Yo, Yo. All those stories you been telling me, Yo. He don't listen. He's here. He's like, all right, cool. Yo, bro, let me tell you something. The guy stood on stage and took credit and I was just, like, looking. Cause I knew you and Cook Chef something up. And that was when I told Cook. Cook just started laughing.
Nigel Sylvester
Nah, you gotta laugh about it.
Joe Budden
I. Come on, Frank. Yeah, you gotta laugh about it, man. It's crazy, yo. That's crazy. I was in the Scandalo. Like, they brought up the white guy. They was like, yo, he's responsible. I said, huh?
Nigel Sylvester
You know?
Joe Budden
Cause I'm one of them, yo, let me tell you, nobody owns me. Nobody owns me. That's a different type of thing. When you not scared and nobody owns you. That's a different type of thing. Cause me, I think my natural. What? I think when the man come next to me, I'm like, this the guy. Like in the Grammys, where they bring the record guy who never met Cardi B, stands next to her and takes the credit for the Grammy. This and this and that. I say, oh, shit. So when I called Frank Cook, he didn't talk bad about the guy. He didn't say nothing. He just started laughing on the phone. They got a guy saying he did that. He's like, yo, Joe, that shit crazy.
Nigel Sylvester
I mean, listen, we got the footage,
Joe Budden
which we gonna release that soon because
Nigel Sylvester
we're on something else.
Jada
But. Back to Bridgington, because he's gonna forget what he even asked. Did it take a couple reds? How did you get. How y' all nail that color, man?
Joe Budden
Listen.
Nigel Sylvester
So the first one that came back wasn't right at all. Uppers were too orange. Some of them were just too pale. And then we actually. On the second round, and we got it right. And then we added that brick texture around the mud guard. And we knew we had one bro like that.
Joe Budden
Like, you know what I mean? You know what I mean, Nigel, I need the one that didn't make it. That's the ones I collect.
Nigel Sylvester
Really? Samples?
Joe Budden
Naked? Yes. He got him. He could bring it this way.
Nigel Sylvester
Have one side. I don't got the full pair, though.
Joe Budden
See? Where that's not gonna be good, right?
Nigel Sylvester
I gotta. I gotta find out the side. Figures.
Joe Budden
You know, I told you on the table. I told Michael Jordan, right? I told Michael Jordan. The dinner you missed. I don't know when you was at.
Jada
You came late.
Joe Budden
They set you up on a late flight.
Nigel Sylvester
You got him a lot of there.
Jada
Mike told me, kiss. I waited for you, though I couldn't wait no longer. No, he waited good off that Mike never.
Joe Budden
No, no, no, no, no. He waited for you. We waited for you. I kept asking, bitch, yo, which kiss they like? Yo, he still ain't here, he coming, he coming, whatever. But in any case, not to discourage. I got to learn to not talk so much. Sun Jet. Nah, stop lying. So they go, so I'm telling Mike Michael Jordan a story. So I go to Rip Hamilton's house. I'm telling you the truth. Rip Hamilton team Jordan. No, I'm good here. No, no, because it's relevant. We talking stinking Jordan. No, no, I'm gonna tell you, okay? No, I'm gonna tell you, all right? Rip Hamilton won two championships. The owner of Detroit made him 24 karat gold. Rip Hamilton Jordans in gold, as heavy as the 1800 bottle. Like the real shit. He got it in a case. He didn't even let me take a picture. I was like, yo, ripped, let me get a picture. He said, nah, nah, nah, you can't take a picture. I was like, yo, ripped, let me get the picture. I called you, I FaceTimed you. I was like, yo, look at this shit. I've never seen nothing like this. This shit is really museum type. You saw him tmac, you saw them. Oh, I thought you was a. Oh, one Chip at Detroit.
Jada
Look.
Joe Budden
Yeah, you ain't like bumping into Ben Wallace, huh? Man, there we go. Ladies and gentlemen, sneak peek at our next guest. Yo, listen, yo, listen. Yo, yo, one chip. The man gave him some gold Jordans. So when I saw Brick and Gold. Nah, nah, Brick and Gold. Now, I swear to my mother, I seen this with my eyes. He hasn't. I never seen that like that. He did not let me take a pic. Now he let me get sneakers. You know, he let me go in there because, like, I'm asking you for the sample. That's what I do for a living.
Nigel Sylvester
Okay?
Joe Budden
I go to your closet. Yo, I go take some shit. That's how my collection is my collection. So I'm up in there. He's giving me pes, but he won't let me take a picture of it. So I tell Jordan that story. Jordan was like, possible. He don't got that. I said, yo, mj, he got that. Like, you know, it's a gold plated. You know, the owner, he was like, he ain't got that. I said, yo, mj, I'm telling you, I seen it with my own. He says, I gotta approve that. I didn't approve that. That's how I know he ain't got that. I said, well, I'm telling you, he got it. I seen it with my own eyes. So Scandalo. Tv, he fucks up another cheesemake.
Jada
He some up for him. Something is, you got somebody fired?
Joe Budden
That boy MJ was like, he ain't got that. I'm telling you. I say, mj, I seen it with my own eyes. Joe. He got that. I ain't get that permission for that right there. I said, well, I'm just letting you know that maybe. And then that made sense. Why the nigga never let me take the picture. But I FaceTimed you with that, right? You saw it. I got one, one, one. I got one customer.
Jada
It was a secret. It was a secret till you just put it right. That was on Netflix.
Nigel Sylvester
That was global Now. Now, someone definitely getting clipped.
Joe Budden
We talking sneakers, man. What you want me to do? They just. I just got a bunch of sneakers in my garage. You heard about it? Yeah, I got a bunch of sneakers in my garage. But anyway, Right, Right?
Jada
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Jada
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Nigel Sylvester
So I fell in love with bikes at 4 years old in my grandma's driveway. Grew up in Jamaica, Queens. My mom worked crazy hours, so I would spend a lot of time at my grandma's crib. And one day we came outside, and it had a Big Wheel in the driveway. And for some reason, I got on the Big Wheel and started ripping it around the driveway. And my cousin was like, I'm gonna put these cones up in the driveway for you, and, like, whatever you doing right there, do it around the cones. I started to drift my big Wheeler around the cones in the driveway. I was four years old.
Joe Budden
Four years old.
Nigel Sylvester
Changed my life, man. Fell in love with bikes. At that point in time, whoever stole
Joe Budden
your bike, you left it in front of the store. Nobody stole your bike.
Nigel Sylvester
Stealing bikes in Queens, man. I mean, they stealing bikes. Not stealing my bike, though.
Joe Budden
Never stole one of your bikes.
Jada
They stole my Big Wheel.
Nigel Sylvester
It's on your Big Wheel?
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Jada
How did they get your Big Wheel? I grew up in a building. No elevator, right? Me and my mom, I used to leave my Big Wheel under the stairs. Somebody caught Me, I couldn't carry it to the third floor.
Joe Budden
I was, too.
Jada
My moms couldn't carry it.
Nigel Sylvester
That's crazy.
Jada
They caught me. They got me another one, though I was fortunate to catch a note.
Joe Budden
Well, you lucky you ain't have the plastic V Bomber. We ain't had no money like that. When they steal your bike. Let me tell you something. When they steal shit from you in my house, they bust your ass in my house 10 times worse than the guys who stole your shit. Dude, they stole your bike, you idiot. You did. Did you fight them? No, I didn't. See, that's how they stole the bike. You.
Nigel Sylvester
Paula, where were you at when you stole the bike, though?
Joe Budden
I don't know where I was at. I think I left there. I was playing. We talking about Pac. I'm old, bro. So we playing Pac man. Like that. You come. You're a little kid, you 8, 10 years old. They took your. I never even seen that again. But I got beat up more than anybody for them, for getting.
Nigel Sylvester
Bro, you didn't go try to find the bike? Because I was watching. So you said somebody stole your car. You went to go find them in Brooklyn store. You had the same energy for the bike.
Joe Budden
We're in Brooklyn. For the car and for the bike, Right? For the bike and for the bike. Everything with me to your answer. Somebody robs me, congratulations. Here you go. It's your day. If you leave me alive, I'm coming back. Right? I'm the king of. See you later, God. Nah. Thank you very much. Hello. It's just testing the guns. Like, I'm not, you know, like, that's my solution to the thing. Like, so, you know, you get robbed, you okay. But I never seen the bike again. They must have been somewhere else. Motherfucker. They won. I just. Look, that's how I feel about karma. That's how I feel about. I stole enough shit to where if they steal my shit. I always knew, even to this day, if I catch accountant stealing, I'd be like, damn, you know, that's that time I stuck that nigga up with the cowboy hat for that charge.
Nigel Sylvester
Yeah.
Joe Budden
You know what I'm saying? No.
Nigel Sylvester
You had a cowboy hat.
Joe Budden
No, I'm just saying I was a very bad individual. And I robbed people. I used to rob people. And even to this day, if I'll come out and they steal my car, I'll be like, that's the Bronco. We stole an 88. It's gonna come back. Karma is the realest shit in the world. And hopefully for us, it don't come out on our kids. Because if you ever seen these gangster dudes that you watch these gangster movies, shit be happening to their kids. These guys will be killing mad people. Al Capone, this. This, all that shit John got, his son got ran over by a car. I don't wish it on nobody. I'm just saying, the most dangerous niggas, sometime the karma come back on they family. I don't wish it on nobody. So thank God, give me the karma. Leave my kids out of the car. Yeah, okay. You see what I'm saying? But I be knowing all the time. My whole life has been based on karma. Like, I did foul shit to people, and then when it come back to me, I don't cry, just be like, yo, you know, you did. You did that to him.
Nigel Sylvester
Except for the bike, it's just good riddance.
Joe Budden
Yeah, the bike is gone, motherfucker. But we look for it in the car. We look for it. You be watching the show, huh?
Nigel Sylvester
See what's going on.
Joe Budden
You know what I mean?
Nigel Sylvester
Listen, this is beautiful right here. Like, what y' all building is incredible. So congratulations.
Jada
Appreciate that.
Joe Budden
Salute Me and my guy gave this guy a diamond piece. A piece? Joe and Jay, the diamond piece. What was it for, Christmas or your birthday? Guy never wore it. Listen. No, not a man. The man never wore the shit. The other day, he made me so happy. We had a show together. I pull in the hat to Joe and Jada. I said, damn, the finally wore this, man. I look at this. He had the chain on. I said, God damn, the man wore this, man.
Jada
Yeah.
Joe Budden
That's crazy, right?
Jada
I'm sure you know that. But now you know the rollout, though, right? What's up with the. Because the. The brick by brick, that rollout was. That was like a. That was amazing.
Nigel Sylvester
Hey, one. I thank you.
Jada
And then now I see the new. The new rollout. You got Jeezy. You got Jeezy in it. And that was supposed to be music attached to it. What's going on?
Joe Budden
You couldn't beat that. That was God's doing. You walking with God.
Nigel Sylvester
We definitely.
Joe Budden
Nah, you walking with God.
Jada
Bike ride.
Joe Budden
That was the emotion. Yo, listen, that was the most incredible timing I've ever. I'll leave it alone. But the timing of that rollout with Jeezy on it, right? You know, Gucci mane's his arch enemy. No, no, we're not gonna talk about that, but. No, no, no, we're not gonna talk about that, but that picture came up prime time. Where the algorithm was on fire. And I was just like, yo, is this. Cause I follow Young Jeezy. I'm a huge fan. And I say, he never posts like this.
Nigel Sylvester
He was going in and then.
Joe Budden
No, but I see it was a ad. It was a rollout.
Jada
I saw. I just talked about it.
Joe Budden
No, at first I just thought, all of a sudden, Gigi just throwing up pics, like. Cause the atmosphere, the algorithm, you know, it was the algorithm going on that day that they dropped that picture going on right now.
Jada
It's one always going on. It's never stopped. It never turns off.
Nigel Sylvester
Listen, it's just alignment, man. It's alignment.
Joe Budden
And you know, I met the algorithm. Yo, all right, yo, all right, yo, tell me, all right.
Jada
Throw the flags behind the couch.
Bethenny Frankel
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Jada
Behind the pillow.
Joe Budden
Throw us. Throw the shit. Throw it.
Jada
We out of it. That clip right there. James, that's so crazy. You know, I met the algorithm. Yo, I need you to get that ready now. Yo, what? Rhythm Algo. Yo, last name is rhythm, man.
Nigel Sylvester
Crazy, yo.
Jada
No, I met.
Joe Budden
Yo.
Jada
No, I met the algorithm.
Joe Budden
Hello. Hello. I didn't know this episode was going to be that much fun. Yeah, hello. Let me explain something you. I'm in la. Beverly Hills, right? I go to a Jewish restaurant every morning for breakfast. Nate nows old school Jewish restaurant. I'm in there eating my breakfast. Lady comes over, says, joe, the owner of Instagram would like to meet you. I walk over, he's talking to the dude, Benny, who directed Supreme. What's the Supreme? What's the movie where the guy was playing Paddle Marty Supreme. They was having a meeting, so I met the dude and I said, yo, so you all. He was like, yeah, he's young too. White dude. I met him. The algorithm. So I said, yo, so you are the algorithm? He said. He said, I am. That's why Benny's meeting with me. He wants to find out more about the algorithm. I met the guy face to face. That could turn your up like this. The algorithm in human form. Yeah, the Marty supreme dude was in front of him trying to ear hustle him, figure out he could get more popping on the algorithm, right?
Nigel Sylvester
Track his movie lit.
Joe Budden
No, no, the movie was lit. He's just trying to figure out the algorithm. This is the guy. I would assume if the guy owns Instagram, he'd give you 100 million followers in one day or some shit, right?
Nigel Sylvester
What y' all talking about?
Joe Budden
Nothing. I would just kiss his ass a little. Like, yo, my man, you know, Yo, my man, I want to be in the Algorithm. I got the number one show on Netflix. I want to be in the algorithm. Yo, think about me. You could press the button. This. He told me right in front of the guy who won all the awards. That's what he's trying to do, right? Get up in that. He's over here trying to figure it out. The guy said, all right. It. Yeah, continue. Man, that. That campaign was perfect timing.
Nigel Sylvester
I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
Jada
Oh, we got you.
Joe Budden
What gives?
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Nigel Sylvester
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Nigel Sylvester
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Nigel Sylvester
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Joe Budden
Reggie said. Reggie knew you got something for me. Because Reggie, I tried to give him for the show.
Nigel Sylvester
Wow.
Joe Budden
So he was like, yo, I think they got. See that box?
Jada
You want to make me happy?
Nigel Sylvester
Wow.
Joe Budden
You see that? Got white bricks. Wow.
Jada
Wow.
Nigel Sylvester
What's this right here?
Jada
Gonna toast a little 1800 for the white bricks.
Nigel Sylvester
Listen, I appreciate that.
Jada
The more success.
Joe Budden
Yo, thank you so much.
Jada
Keep more drops. Hold on. Don't drink it yet. And can I get some of the apparel because I. I always get the sneakers that I'll never get the gear.
Nigel Sylvester
Gonna get them right.
Jada
Come on, man. All right. Love is love. Keep going, baby.
Nigel Sylvester
Love is love.
Joe Budden
Whatever you do, never wear the loafers.
Jada
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Joe Budden
This box is incredible. First of all time, right? You know, when you get money. I've never seen that.
Nigel Sylvester
We did the brick by Br. Similar texture, but now we.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Jada
Color flip and getting money, man.
Joe Budden
The brick by brick was the same way. But this. This.
Jada
The box is like a.
Nigel Sylvester
You heard?
Joe Budden
I'm talking about the box. The design of the box. I never seen this look Amy gave you. You seen it before?
Jada
Even get it?
Joe Budden
No, this ain't the regular joint.
Jada
Even put a brace around your joints to keep them. Yeah, you know, they be. Some people don't. Nasty sneaker handlers.
Nigel Sylvester
I just get rid of those.
Jada
This is for the nasty sneaker hand.
Joe Budden
I got so much.
Nigel Sylvester
You gotta get that the box.
Joe Budden
The tidal wave. I can't even walk around the sneaker rooms like this. I can't even walk.
Nigel Sylvester
How you move. You just float through them.
Joe Budden
It's embarrassing. No, I gotta walk on top. I invented some new. I said, yo, it's turning warm. Let's take all the. You know how you take the Christmas awnings, right? Let's take all the Tim's and throw them in the basement. Like I gotta. I don't know. I don't how to think of no more. I come in my house.
Nigel Sylvester
So the only. The only other person that I. That I gifted already was mj.
Jada
Mj.
Joe Budden
We went to north, right? Hold on, hold on. Let's talk. So hold on.
Jada
Let him talk.
Nigel Sylvester
Right? So hold on. So a few weeks ago, we was down in Florida, met with MJ for breakfast, and I gifted him the first pair of brick after brick. Now you guys are the second to get gifted, man.
Joe Budden
This is a honor. But we're trying this at home, right?
Nigel Sylvester
This is something different.
Joe Budden
Oh, no, we True sneaker collectors. We appreciate it.
Nigel Sylvester
So I know y' all appreciate it.
Joe Budden
Reggie, Reggie knew you had something, right? Of course. Reggie know what's going on, man.
Nigel Sylvester
He know can't come the empty handed, right?
Joe Budden
I see all these kind of like nice, but they're fake color. I asked you last time they had like turquoise fake colorways, bro.
Nigel Sylvester
People are excited. They just excited. They want to be part of the conversation. So they making purples and grays and blues and all of that.
Joe Budden
It was crazy, right? I asked him, he said that was fake, right?
Nigel Sylvester
Some of them look good though.
Jada
Some of them.
Nigel Sylvester
But it's the brick by brick. And it's the brick.
Joe Budden
Nigel, you feel me? Being that we're so honored, man. 100 million sold. There we go. Hundred million sold.
Nigel Sylvester
I was wondering what was gonna happen.
Joe Budden
No, no. You know the sneaker? Yeah. What you want? Slow motion lick. Yo, yo, Rich. Yo, let me tell you something. Y' all keep throwing the flags.
Nigel Sylvester
You're blessed.
Joe Budden
Y' all listen. Y' all keep throwing them flags from every direction. I'm gonna start, right? It's gonna be assault in here. This borderline is talking
Nigel Sylvester
crazy.
Joe Budden
Came like this. Hit me on my forehead, right? Trying to kill me. Oh, no, this is nice. Who's gonna wear them first? Me and you.
Jada
You gonna wear your shits today?
Joe Budden
You think so?
Nigel Sylvester
You were talking about the rollout, man. So what people don't know was like when it comes to these rollouts and the ideas and the creativity behind it, that's coming from my side, you know what I mean? Like, I'm sitting there thinking about.
Joe Budden
I know you gotta work, right?
Nigel Sylvester
Like how I want to tell this story at all.
Jada
Like, let him talk.
Nigel Sylvester
We thinking about how I want to tell the story, how I want to engage the people, community and just bring these stories to life. That's super important for me. So even with Brick by Brick bastard show the brick truck, all of that, like, cooked it up. And now with brick after brick, we're on the same type of energy. Same type of energy. So we did a claw machine in LA about two weeks ago. We had people come to.
Joe Budden
What's a claw machine?
Nigel Sylvester
Like, so it's like a sneaker. Claw machine.
Rick
Oh.
Joe Budden
Like when you play the little video game, try to win the game,
Nigel Sylvester
put the sneaker.
Joe Budden
I always thought those was the scam yours. Somebody won.
Nigel Sylvester
We had a bunch of winners.
Joe Budden
Yo, yo, man.
Nigel Sylvester
A bunch of winners.
Joe Budden
You know that machine that you play in the sneaker stores and you try to win the Nobody with no sneakers. Huh? The car he did it in real life, right?
Nigel Sylvester
We had. We had that 28th Street. Had that in LA. And then we took over. You said what, about 2018?
Jada
He might try to swap me out
Nigel Sylvester
some funny money joints.
Jada
Yeah.
Nigel Sylvester
So we did that. And then we also took over the bikes on Nike campus. So all of the bikes on campus are now branded brick after brick bike air. And then we had the GC shoes.
Joe Budden
It's too far for me. I don't want to see them bikes.
Nigel Sylvester
You got to go to campus, man. Say, what's up, Joe?
Joe Budden
That shit's far. Portland, like going to Alaska. No, I'm telling you, that flight damn near seven hours, B. You play if you fucking want. That shit is like, when I go, I gotta go. Somebody at Nike be like, joe, we're having a special meeting, and we want you there. And I'm like, sheesh.
Jada
Gotta go.
Joe Budden
That shit like going overseas. That flight right there. So everybody got the bike, right?
Nigel Sylvester
Got the bikes up there. Crazy, man.
Joe Budden
Thank you for the sneaker, man. You're welcome, man.
Nigel Sylvester
And then it was the honor like the. The Jeezy lookbook was super crazy.
Joe Budden
Oh, wow.
Nigel Sylvester
Shot down at the Brooklyn banks.
Joe Budden
Anything. Young Jeezy is fire. He's authentic. He don't do that type of shit. And I just thought he was rubbing. Rub pause. I thought he was just like, damn. Jeezy is unusually posting all day today. I'd never see him post like that. But it was the rollout.
Nigel Sylvester
It's part of the rollout.
Joe Budden
It was just the timing. Was legend crazy. Also algorithm.
Nigel Sylvester
Also the algorithm. Also part of what we doing now, too. We got a record as well.
Jada
Music.
Nigel Sylvester
A record called Break After. I want to play it for the first time.
Joe Budden
Oh, we need to get started.
Nigel Sylvester
James, who got the record?
Joe Budden
Play it loud, too. Cause there's a wax system on this
Nigel Sylvester
floor Turn the volume up. Cause the record's crazy deep.
Joe Budden
Knocking off Rimsy conductor tell him you
Rick
got that bar spin for me. I used to spin that foggy water the same way, Rick. After brick, the brick then the brick after Being broke was a joke we was dreaming through the laughter Now I got the coach on my back Put so much time in my rolly need a nap Brick after brick to brick, then the brick after I told my mama I was gonna be this. You could ask her now I got the culture on my backs I put so much time in my protect Need a nap they still chasing the last ones Heavy is the hands that carry the Lou Bag up the first brick Open the door but you not A master until you can cook it with your eyes now you ready conductor you know I'm brick made climbed out the kitchen but I landed on the big stage Jo him with the whip game cooking with my tongue out the spot
Joe Budden
flew high he the only artist that inspires me.
Rick
Almost went insane no gloves it's in my system I piss came the game changed from the powder to the vein on the bench talking like they in the game yay. Tell them I really footprint yay and I never hate it I can't believe I made it was MVP in a trap Then they raided brick after brick to brick and the brick after being broke was a laughter Now I got the coach on my back put so much time in my rolly need a nap Brick after brick to brick and the brick after I told my mama I was going to be this you can ask her Now I got the coach on my backs I put so much time in my protect need a nap they still chasing the last ones Heavy is the hands that carry the Louis bag so the first brick open the door but you not a master until you can cook it with your eyes closed back now you ready for the brick Brick after brick the brick
Joe Budden
then the brick after this the school of hard knocks these wanna skip classes this classic homie wanted a brick I had a half hitting half that I didn't and mix matched them I built this on the pavement from grandma's driveway to them stages told mama retire your boy fish scale fragrance Jenkins saw his potential so I front what he came to get I'm their favorite triple platinum Pyrex spinning make a nine stretch and jump to 13 I F better like a side bet Nigel's on time sweats pressy with the time set kitchen in the spot straight up architecture we digest I digress different kind of twist with this can't name me a corner that we going to miss with this from the trench to the sticks in the mix of legit this strictly for the that built it Brick after brick after
Rick
brick after brick dreaming through the laughter
Joe Budden
killed it Now I got the coach
Rick
on my back put so much time in my r need a nap Brick after brick to brick in the brick
Joe Budden
brick brick be this you can ask
Rick
her now I got the coach on my back I put so much time in my patek need a nap they still chasing the last ones Heavy is the hands that carry the Louis bags up the first brick open the door but you not a master until you can cook it with your eyes closed backwards now you ready for the brick after.
Nigel Sylvester
That's Talk World for Mayor.
Joe Budden
Safe to say that might be. That might be the hardest track I heard up here, man. That. Yeah, that's too perfect. Yeah.
Nigel Sylvester
Yeah, man.
Joe Budden
Yo, but you knew, right? You.
Nigel Sylvester
Thank you, brother.
Joe Budden
Thank you, Rick.
Jada
After, man.
Joe Budden
Let me ask you a question, right? Songs might be the hottest we played up here. Let me explain something to you. It's just said. And he paused and you already knew it was. How do you know? That was like, you didn't even hear a voice. You heard bit and it paused. And I already seen your face. Your shit went like. Like you knew what it was gonna sound like. Like, did you know it was gonna sound like that?
Jada
I had it. I had it.
Joe Budden
You had an idea when you heard the bit. Bit. Bit. Bit. You know that. That's pretty crazy, because once I heard it, I was like, okay, this. That vintage. This some shit Jay Z would have ripped down back in the day. You know what I'm saying? That he heard like two bars. It was like he knew something crazy was coming.
Nigel Sylvester
He knew we had that.
Joe Budden
I didn't know. But that's what we talking about. That's why guys like you, you know, deserve everything you got. You understand the culture, you understand the streets. You moving in a corporate setting, but still knowing how to touch the third round.
Nigel Sylvester
It's important, though. You know what I mean?
Joe Budden
Most important.
Nigel Sylvester
It's extremely important, bro.
Joe Budden
Like, don't understand that.
Nigel Sylvester
So, like, think about what I do when I'm out riding my bike. I'm outside in the streets, riding all the time, right? Like, I'm in neighborhoods all around New York City, all around the world. So I'm. I'm.
Joe Budden
I'm.
Nigel Sylvester
I'm interacting and appreciating what's going on around me, from the music to the food, to the fashion.
Joe Budden
Different from a car in the bike.
Nigel Sylvester
Way different.
Joe Budden
Because you in the. In the bike, you hearing people. You see what. Everything that's going on in the car. We just drive by, you got your own music going. I think we're seeing
Jada
more.
Nigel Sylvester
I'm exposed to the elements, so I'm being inspired by.
Joe Budden
You get beat up and robbed off the bike, too.
Nigel Sylvester
They gotta catch.
Joe Budden
No, that's a very dangerous position. No, I'm telling you, you gotta catch him. He might be a max. That what I'm telling you. You hit a. With the back tire, bam. Keep the bush. But it's dangerous in them streets riding around like that. That's a real.
Nigel Sylvester
You gotta keep two eyes open, man.
Joe Budden
No, you have to. Cause you really I know exactly. Like, why do I know that? Cause I'm always in the car. But I do know that you're outside. You hear everything, you see everything. You know, when you're in the car, you think you're driving through Yonkers, are through the Bronx, but we're not really on the block with, you know, there's a. On the 149th or 30. Got a truck. It's called. He got the. Yo, my man, he on Instagram. He got the state Spanish steak with the plot. I know it's in the. I told Rich player, yo, we going to 149th and 3rd for me. Daddy said, oh, no. You notice?
Jada
Yeah, don't let him get no rich
Joe Budden
Players say, yo, you ain't going to that. That shit gonna blow. Get the out of here. I told him, I said, yo, but where I did go.
Nigel Sylvester
But you went, right?
Joe Budden
Cause I've been on a real diet, you know, I lost, okay? You know, you see the health as well, bro. Health is everything's wealth. So I've been like, you know, really, really not eating carbs. But that day, I felt like a fat. Like, I really wanted to go bad. So I was about to go to 149th for third to beat Tecon Toto. He got a truck over there. His food looks amazing. But I went to Patsy's and Patsy told me.
Jada
That was recently.
Joe Budden
Two days ago. We seen you at Patsy's, my favorite pizza. Let me tell you what Patsy's pizza did for me. I've been going there 40 years. I'm hanging out with the owner. The owner's my man, beautiful guy. And he said, make him a pie like you make it for me. That's what you gotta do when you
Nigel Sylvester
different type of piece of piece. It's different right there.
Joe Budden
Holy Christ. What is on it? It's the thinnest pizza you ever seen in your life. It's almost like a cracker, but it tastes like the shit is overcooked. Jesus Christ. This is the best shit I ever do.
Jada
I look like a real pie?
Joe Budden
It's the same pie, but the owner, he makes them cook it for him. Like, overcook it, and it's the thin. That shit is like you eating a cracker. It's the best shit, but it's pizza. When you go say, yo, I want it like the owner, they're gonna bring it out for you. I never ate pizza like that. And I eat Patsy's. I already love Patsy's. But that shit, they said it's a spot In Mount Vernon is really good. Johnny's or something.
Jada
Yeah, Somewhere Patsy's told me they know
Joe Budden
about rates them, you know, he's talking about who's the best pizza shops. And is it Lou Cali? Is it this? This?
Nigel Sylvester
That?
Joe Budden
Shout out to Luke in Mount Vernon.
Nigel Sylvester
Colleagues is crazy, huh? Colleagues is crazy.
Joe Budden
They ain't with Patsy's. I can promise you it ain't with Patsy, no way. But when the owner of Patsy's tells me, yo, you ever been to Johnny's in Mount Vernon? I'm like, it's a little hole in the wall.
Nigel Sylvester
Crazy.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Jada
Joe and jadashow.com. we got new merch, fresh off the presses. Go get it, babe. Out of thing. Bomb throwing. Jadishow.com. you can get these. Little cold for T shirt. Where the hoodies at?
Joe Budden
It's my favorite right there. I need an extra large show with jadishow.com. go there, get it. And please don't ever. The one time I'm not supporting is if you come with them loafers on your feet.
Nigel Sylvester
Yo, fam, I don't even know what that is.
Jada
Call a leaker.
Joe Budden
I didn't.
Jada
The loafer.
Joe Budden
Astronauts right now going around the moon. Mars, the astronauts, they floating in the air right now in them chicks.
Nigel Sylvester
I think you know what to get Joe for his birthday.
Joe Budden
The loafers.
Jada
Oh, no.
Joe Budden
I commit suicide. I will vomit.
Nigel Sylvester
Custom pair.
Joe Budden
Who are some of the brothers you looked up to that were already competing in the bike space, you know, that you looked at and you was like, damn, I want to be nice like them.
Nigel Sylvester
And so believe it or not, man, I signed to Dave Merrill when I was 18. And Dave was super legend, right? So for those of you who don't know who Dave Murray is, he's like the Michael Jordan of bmx, riding, like, super legendary. Like, set the tone, had video games and crazy endorsements, won a bunch of X Game gold medals. And I met him when I was 17. And we ended up signing when I was 18. Changed my life forever. You know what I mean? So like RIP or he passed away? He passed away, unfortunately.
Joe Budden
Yeah, man.
Nigel Sylvester
Young, unfortunately.
Joe Budden
What was it? Cancer?
Nigel Sylvester
Yeah.
Joe Budden
CTE from falling all the time on the bike.
Nigel Sylvester
It's one of those situations. Shit.
Joe Budden
But I think rich player got CTE from the.
Nigel Sylvester
You can't wish that on nobody, man.
Jada
Go, go.
Joe Budden
You know how you see these movies? My wife always watching Lifetime. You know this channel? Lifetime?
Jada
Yeah, we do.
Joe Budden
It's always the man killed the wife or the wife killed a man. She meet a side dude, get him killed. Whatever the case may be, we already toasted, brother. We can't toast 46 times. Listen, right, but my thing is, you see the Lifetime channel, The husband killed. It's the same shit. The husband killed the wife, the wife killed the husband. Why was I talking about this? What was you saying before that? No, no. Cause you know, when a girl. Everybody think everybody love each other, they happy. When the girl died, when the woman died, they coming in. What's the problem with the husband? Was she cheating? Does he got a fucking will? This. I'm letting y' all know. If I die on the side of the highway was Rich, player to God.
Jada
Cte. Yo, it's cte.
Nigel Sylvester
Yo, how you gonna wish that on your bears, bro? That's crazy.
Joe Budden
No, I'm telling you, no, I don't wish to die. Warn you ahead of time. I'm in the car. What the I tell you, man? I just. Rich, why you sound so violent, buddy? I'm your friend here. That like, yo, just the CTE acting up again, Rich.
Jada
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Cause your. And they got that. But yo, listen, Yo, Nigel.
Nigel Sylvester
Oh, man, this is.
Joe Budden
This is important, my brother.
Nigel Sylvester
Thank you.
Jada
When they dropped. When the bricks after drop in the
Nigel Sylvester
brick after drop in May. We can't lease the exact date just yet, but it's May 2020.
Jada
God. I called him.
Nigel Sylvester
You know what I mean?
Joe Budden
Let me tell you something. Your shit going to be a frenzy.
Nigel Sylvester
I hope so.
Joe Budden
These kids. Let me tell you something at that. At that. Where you won sneaker of the year. It was the coolest shit. Cause you was in the truck and they had you live and you was like, yo, I'm right outside. I got more sneakers and goodies. When I tell you, right? The whole 2,5000 people ran. They left us. We was in there like a desert by ourself. Come outside. The whole place got up and ran outside like that shit was over.
Nigel Sylvester
I seen. Yo, I seen the footage. I was like.
Joe Budden
I was there. So I'm standing on stage, just 5,000 people. You was like, if you want the brick by brick, you missed your chance. Come outside. We're just giving them the whole place. And gave him up.
Nigel Sylvester
You had to put him on the sneakers? Yeah.
Jada
What still?
Joe Budden
Oh, oh, sneakers at.
Nigel Sylvester
But people were outside hitting them on the sneakers.
Joe Budden
That was crazy. You said that. I never seen a place clear out like that. I thought it was mace. They maced the place. The footage is crazy.
Nigel Sylvester
I seen the footage.
Joe Budden
I was there. What I'm trying to tell you, they don't never believe I'm there.
Nigel Sylvester
Now you was.
Joe Budden
They think I'm capping. I'm on stage. You said, well, come outside. The whole place.
Nigel Sylvester
Place left cleared up.
Joe Budden
Not 5,000 people out of that bitch in one second.
Nigel Sylvester
But that's the beautiful thing about what we're doing right now, man. Like, everything is focused on creating that energy, giving back to sneaker culture, making this exciting again. You know what I mean? So that's why we building the rollouts
Joe Budden
the way we are. And they lost it. They lost the excitement. You know, somebody like me that been collecting for so long, I remember I went to. Where was it? In Vegas. I don't want to say the name of it, because. No, no, because they were good people. They had, like, convention, one of the sneaker conventions. I don't know if it's complex. I don't know if it's Sneaker Con. I don't know whatever it was. But I went up in there, and I felt like cemetery. This was like last year, they had one of them conference. I went up in there, and I was like. They had nothing. They had no fluidity, no people around. I was looking like, this.
Jada
That's the dick.
Joe Budden
No, that was nice.
Jada
Yeah.
Nigel Sylvester
That was a vibe.
Joe Budden
Night and day. That was a vibe that was a hundred million percent better than when I went to Vegas. It was like, you wanted to cry. You walked up in there, I was like, sheesh. And that's why not to give it legs. But that's why I start popping shit, try to tell people I want to battle them. And this. That just to bring.
Nigel Sylvester
I was going to ask you about that. You still give it leg.
Joe Budden
Bring this excitement back to sneaker culture. Because I was here at a time where I'm not talking about resellers. You know, it got to the point he's like me, right? He actually's dangerous. He might. He's. He's really addicted to buying sneakers. Like me. He'll tell me what's in my store before I know. It's like, yo, y' all got the pink Air Max, nigga. I pick them shits up today. And he ain't just my store. He's in 10 stores in New York.
Nigel Sylvester
Okay?
Joe Budden
Kiss outside, he buys sneakers, right? But it felt like when kids were coming up to me, right? Cause I start thinking, I'm confused. Maybe the loafers are hot. Yo, I'm confused.
Jada
I ain't.
Nigel Sylvester
Actors begin to run. These loafers came to run, right?
Joe Budden
Maybe the loafers this hot because a new sneaker come out I've been waiting for, and I'm like, yo, this color wave is crazy. And I have kids tell me in the store, oh gee, they ain't be selling. They ain't hot.
Jada
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Cause this, what's the shit like? What do you like? The sneaker gotta get what you like. Or does it gotta be resale? This I'm looking at a sneaker that I know for a fact. My eyes are telling me, yo, this is hard. You put a outfit with this, you smashing them. And the kids is right next to me. The guys who supposed to love the sneakers, like, ain't doing nothing, ain't reselling.
Nigel Sylvester
Yeah, everybody buys sneakers.
Joe Budden
They ain't reselling.
Nigel Sylvester
Different reasons, huh? Everybody buys sneakers for different reasons. People want to get flies. People want to resell. You know how the game goes, man.
Joe Budden
You know my man, rest in peace. Cause you here and you won sneaker of the year. So I got to mention Clark Kent. The great, legendary Clark Kent. Shout out what Clark Kent used to say. Addicted to fresh. Right, right.
Jada
Facts.
Joe Budden
That's it. Addicted to fresh.
Nigel Sylvester
Shout out to Clark, man, Rip.
Joe Budden
This ain't that.
Jada
That ain't this.
Joe Budden
It's cracking. Kiss, goddamn it.
Jada
Make some noise for Nigel Sylvester.
Joe Budden
Brick by motherfucking brick, brick after brick
Jada
after you in the song is incredible.
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Episode Date: April 14, 2026
Podcast: Joe and Jada
Featured Guest: Nigel Sylvester
Hosts: Fat Joe (Joe Crack), Jadakiss (Jada)
Presented By: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
This episode welcomes BMX legend and sneaker entrepreneur Nigel Sylvester for a deep-dive into sneaker culture, creative rollouts, the intersection of music, fashion, and sports, and a world premiere of a new Stove God Cooks track, “Brick After Brick,” tied to Nigel’s ongoing sneaker collaboration rollout. The show blends stories of hustling, authenticity, community impact, and the highs and lows of street culture, all with the larger-than-life charisma of Joe and Jada. Through candid anecdotes, debates, and a real-time music debut, the trio explores how moments in pop culture and personal hustle inspire what Sneaker of the Year actually means.
Winning and Witnessing the Moment (06:42–12:11)
Design Process & Rarity (11:42–12:28)
Sneaker Culture and Sample Stories (13:00–15:10)
A New Era, Collaborations & Jeezy (22:45–24:16; 36:45–39:22)
Innovative Marketing (37:00–38:47)
Live Music Drop (39:36–43:15)
Highlighted Lyrics:
”I used to spin that foggy water the same way, brick after brick, the brick then the brick after / Being broke was a joke, we was dreaming through the laughter / Now I got the coach on my back, put so much time in my rolly, need a nap” – Stove God Cooks
Reaction and Cultural Context
On community and giving back:
“He does stuff in the hood for the hood, for the people. Always. No matter how grand of a person he becomes, he never forgets where he's from.” – Jada [03:36]
On sneaker award shock:
“I had no idea what was gonna happen…So we're in Vegas and they're doing the complex show...they start to go down from 10, 9, 8...” – Nigel [06:53]
On fights for creators to get credit:
“They bring some white dude on stage with me, and he took the credit. And I'm sitting there with the dude, and...I knew you and Cook chef something up.” – Joe [09:45]
On sneaker as art:
“I just look at em and call em the Sneaker of the year...like a museum, a hieroglyphic...” – Joe [08:20]
On karmic lessons:
“Karma is the realest shit in the world. And hopefully for us, it don’t come out on our kids.” – Joe [20:40]
On rollout creativity:
“When it comes to these rollouts and the ideas and the creativity behind it, that's coming from my side.” – Nigel [36:45]
On the live crowd’s energy:
“Come outside. The whole place got up and ran outside like that shit was over.” – Joe [52:30]
On the shift in sneaker culture:
“Kids…tell me in the store, Oh gee, they ain’t be selling. They ain’t hot…this colorway is crazy…And the kids is right next to me…’That ain’t doing nothing, ain’t reselling.’” – Joe [56:07]
This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about sneaker culture, streetwise branding, hip-hop history, and authentic creative rollouts. Nigel Sylvester’s journey is framed as a new archetype for culture shapers — one foot in the streets, one in the boardroom. The Brick After Brick rollout bridges community, artistry, marketing genius, and music, offering a blueprint for genuine cultural influence. The Stove God Cooks premiere puts the exclamation mark on a dynamic, uplifting, and candid conversation.
Want more? Check out “Joe and Jada” wherever you get podcasts and tap into authentic stories that move the culture — brick by brick.