Remy Ma talks Remy Network, Fat Joe’s stories, Jada’s Gemini energy & the clout-chasing epidemic

Summary

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Joe and Jada – Episode: Remy Ma Talks Remy Network, Fat Joe’s Stories, Jada’s Gemini Energy & the Clout-Chasing Epidemic

Date: April 30, 2026
Podcast: Joe and Jada (iHeartPodcasts and The Volume)
Guest: Remy Ma

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Episode Overview

In this lively and unapologetically real episode, hip-hop legends Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome their longtime friend and iconic MC, Remy Ma, for a conversation that’s part reunion, part masterclass, and fully authentic. They break down Remy’s entrepreneurial leap with Remy Network, the wild world of hip-hop storytelling, the “clout-chasing epidemic,” their shared Gemini energy, and the complexity of riding out fame, loyalty, and personal growth in the culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Remy Ma & Hip-Hop Resilience

[02:41–03:59]

• Jada and Joe introduce Remy with high praise for her bars, resilience, motherhood, and ability to bounce back from setbacks.
• Jada: "Somebody that's very outspoken but has a good heart...someone that they counted out and doubted, and she came back even stronger."
• Remy jokes about being in the tabloids “for two years, not just months.”

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2. Fat Joe’s Legendary Storytelling Style

[04:55–06:41]

• Remy explains how Fat Joe’s stories are legendary, but often come with comedic exaggeration: “Maybe a little gladiation, little sasson, a little...dobo. Because he's a storyteller.”
• Jada and Remy validate that although Joe embellishes, he never actually lies.

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3. The Birth of Remy Network & Empowering Creators

[07:59–10:40]

• Remy outlines her motivation for starting Remy Network: frustration with unfair industry deals and a desire to build something for creators—especially for people of color making their own content.
• Remy Ma: “I have this platform, everybody's going to it because it's Remy's network. And I'm giving you a spot where you can just come and bring your talent.”
• Joe repeatedly checks that Remy is “lawyered up,” referencing the Charlamagne podcast network’s $200 million deal as a lesson.

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4. Fame, Money, and Clout Inflation

[11:51–14:17]

• Joe tells a story of meeting Charlamagne tha God, who confirms his massive sale price: “The minute he told me that, my whole brain said Remy Network better f***ing die. Like, don't play that shit.”
• Remy Ma: “You’re giving everybody a chance...everyone who don’t have the platform to put eyes on it.”
• Lively, comedic banter on what gets shown on Remy Network—Remy clarifies she gives creators a platform without creative control.

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5. Perceptions, Prison, and Authenticity

[17:07–19:16]

• Remy candidly shares about prison experiences, the hierarchy and authenticity of “aggressors” inside, and why she’s never been one to back down: “They used to be trying to talk like they was real men. And I had a problem with that.”
• Jada: “They got chicks in there with beards, goatees.”
• Remy dismantles perception vs. reality—her respect comes not from affiliations, but her own energy and the respect she gives.

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6. The Clout-Chasing Epidemic & Social Media Drama

[20:25–23:04]

• Remy and Joe dissect why today's youth and even police are caught up chasing “clout,” faking drama for viral attention, and how social media has escalated conflicts that used to stay private.
• Remy Ma: “Everything is for social media...they don't care if it's good attention, bad attention...what's the next dumbass thing that I could do, because I have nothing else really going on.”
• Joe shares police “clout” stories: “The same cops walking with fresh haircuts, suits, brand new badges...I said, oh shit, the police want the clout.”

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7. Growth, Toughness, and Outgrowing the Streets

[31:06–34:15]

• Remy emphasizes how survival in hip-hop isn’t about being the “toughest” anymore but about adaptability and understanding the real room you want to be in.
• Remy Ma: “When it comes to the matters that actually matter in life, the people you need to be cool with...they don’t want the toughest person.”
• Remy and Joe reminisce about moments where facing down threats was unavoidable, but they now know their value and keep moving “like moguls.”

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8. Music as a Stepping Stone—and When to Release

[35:00–39:53]

• Remy talks about how hip-hop is a launching pad: “You can be an actor, you be a owner of a network...all this just because you know how to rap good.”
• “The whack ones, yeah, they're dumb. The good ones, not only are they extra smart, they’re funny—they could be borderline comedians.”
• Remy hints that real MCs are always “gambling” with their talent and that “guaranteed” checks from other ventures can make music take a backseat, though she still sees herself as the nicest.

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9. Life, Loyalty, and People’s Entitlement

[41:39–47:53]

• Remy and Joe discuss entitlement from friends and family—how people “don’t want what you give them, they want what you got.”
• Remy Ma: “You don’t owe nobody nothing. Don’t let nobody make you feel like you don't deserve what you have.”
• Remy details why real friendship for her often comes from bonds made before fame—especially while incarcerated.

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10. The Reality of Fame—Dealing with Criticism and Boundaries

[49:56–51:29]

• Remy shares how she navigates online hate and why she refuses to argue on the internet: “I’m not arguing with nobody on the Internet. I’m not going back and forth...”
• Both discuss how being famous means being held to impossible standards and how people are always ready to criticize.

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11. Street Cred, Confrontations & Living with No Regrets

[55:14–59:03]

• Joe asks Remy to confirm he’s never been “played pussy”; Remy tells the infamous Miami standoff story:
  Remy: “All I'm saying is don't look away. Cause whoever look away first is pussy.”
• They recount, humorously but earnestly, the importance of holding your own—even if it seems reckless to outsiders.

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12. Security, Wisdom, and Changing Times

[62:09–64:35]

• The trio agree that it’s wise—never weak—to use security and protect yourself and your brand:
  Remy Ma: “If you have anything that you feel is worth anything, you are supposed to protect it. And in most situations, we are the brand.”
• They note the shift from old-school norms of “no security” to today's pragmatic self-preservation.

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13. The Cost of Disrespect & Lawsuits in the Internet Era

[64:35–65:24]

• Remy: “People be out here playing with real niggas...They not used to the disrespect, they not used to the Internet, hehe, haha shit. And it's gonna be an issue.”
• The discussion touches on Mike Tyson lawsuits and the high costs of street cred in a viral world.

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14. The Pressure to Respond Online and Privacy

[65:27–66:07]

• Joe laments that even minor altercations or negative social media attention now put regular people and celebrities under unwanted spotlights.
• Remy Ma: “They was living in they fucking corner crusty house, eating ramen noodles. Now they lit cause you said something to them.”
• The crew jokes about avoidable “beefs” making nobodies into viral stars.

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15. Remy Ma’s Music: Past, Present, and Unreleased

[66:21–69:04]

• Remy admits her “perfectionism” has kept her next album in limbo, but hints at new material and says, “I feel like it’s time...it’s time to make bitches rap again.”
• Shares the 20th anniversary of her only solo album, how her priorities have shifted, and what inspires her to drop new bars.

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16. Friendship, Loyalty, Parenting & Legacy

[71:42–74:45]

• Remy celebrates Joe’s family values, their godparenting bond, and trading mutual appreciation (with plenty of jokes).
• Their proud, playful hopes for their children’s future and what it means to pass on both work ethic and generational wealth.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Remy Ma (on ambition):
  “I just wanted to be the nicest ever...once people was like, ‘yo, Rim really got it,’ I was cool. Anything after that, I was cool with it. If I make some bread, cool. If I put out another project, cool.” [36:08]
• Fat Joe (on storytelling):
  “Maybe a little gladiation, little sason, a little...dobo. Because he’s a storyteller.” [06:28]
• Remy Ma (on fame and friendship):
  “People don’t want what you give them. They want what you got.” [02:06, repeated at 45:00]
• Remy Ma (on social media clout):
  “Now your whole life is thrown away because your fear of being the butt of the joke on the Internet.” [21:11]
• Fat Joe (on industry inflations):
  “They said he sold the shit for $200 million. Now, when I did the Terror Squad deal, they said $20 million. It was more like $10.” [11:51]
• Jada (on growing up):
  “We grew up where you can’t just say you gonna do something to somebody and then see them and don’t do it. You can’t threaten people.” [63:46]
• Remy Ma (on respect):
  “I'm not sitting here acting like I'm the toughest...But when I tell you nobody disrespects me...I've always got respect because of me. And not just because I'm saying you should respect, but I give respect." [41:44]

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Key Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:41] — Remy Ma’s Introduction & Reputation
• [04:55] — Fat Joe’s Storytelling Style
• [07:59] — Remy Network Origins
• [11:51] — Clout & Big Money Podcast Industry Stories
• [17:07] — Prison, “Aggressors” & Authenticity
• [20:25] — Social Media & Clout-Chasing
• [31:06] — Growth: Leaving “Toughness” at the Door
• [35:00] — What Inspires Remy to Make Music
• [41:39] — Dealing with Criticism as a Celebrity
• [47:53] — True Friendships vs Entitlement
• [55:14] — Never Getting “Played Pussy”: Miami Confrontation
• [62:09] — Why Security Isn’t Weakness
• [66:21] — Remy’s Next Album & Perfectionism
• [71:42] — Parenting, Family, and Godparent Banter

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Tone & Authenticity

The episode is deeply conversational, straight-talking, and hilarious in equal measure. The trio’s chemistry is palpable—they joke, reminisce, break down real-life lessons, and bring listeners into the world behind the scenes of hip-hop’s most resilient voices. Remy Ma keeps it raw, Joe keeps it comic, and Jada is the steady, no-nonsense observer.

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Conclusion

This episode packs wisdom, laughter, and truth into a jam-packed hour. Remy Ma rises as a mogul and mentor, but never loses the edge and energy that made her a legend. Whether you’re interested in entrepreneurial moves, hip-hop history, or how to survive the clout-chasing culture, this is a masterclass—delivered with love, humor, and plenty of receipts.

Transcript

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[Remy Ma]

I say it. It's like one of my mottos. People don't want what you give them. They want what you got. It's so funny because I hear people say it now. They probably don't even know that it came from me. People don't want what you give them. They want what got. So you can give them a new house.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah. Yeah. What up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack the Dawn.

[Jada]

You know who it is. Your boy, Jada. It's the Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Pow, Pow.

[Jada]

When you think of today's guest, you gotta think of bars. You gotta think of Rest in peace, my brother Pun. You gotta think of a great mother. Always gotta put that first. You Gotta think of somebody that's very outspoken but has a good heart. You gotta think of somebody with resilience. You gotta think of somebody that they counted out and doubted and she came back even stronger. Gotta think of somebody who has her own network. You gotta think of somebody that's very passionate about a certain cloth of hip hop, and she makes sure that she represents that very well. Gotta think about somebody that's been in the tabloids for the past few months just going crazy.

[Remy Ma]

Like two years.

[Jada]

Years. Excuse me. Two years. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

the Queen, Remy Ma.

[Remy Ma]

Glad I could be here, guys.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What's up, sis?

[Jada]

A lot of people was like, yo, we thought REM would have been here. We wanted to get closer to the hundred episode milestone before we started bringing the locks and bringing you. Cause that's just the cheat code. We actually was gonna do you. Yeah. You and the locks together.

[Remy Ma]

I know. I was waiting for the smoke.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I got super smoky sounds.

[Remy Ma]

I had it all mapped out.

[Jada]

Yeah, we was going. We had.

[Remy Ma]

We.

[Jada]

That's. What was the original plan, was the brain.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I was stuck in Miami for something. What was it?

[Jada]

Yeah, you were flying. Snowstorm. The snowstorm messed everything up.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You seen the plane crash in the. You know, I was in LaGuardia that same day, driving through the plane.

[Jada]

Tell me you jumped through the fire. He was the only one. To me.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It. It's going, no, no. Calling Cap on the real one. Come on, let's go.

[Remy Ma]

Don't let this guy. Because I be watching y'. All. I watch y', all, you know, And I feel like my brother gets a lot of. He gets a lot of flack because people just don't be understanding how he tells stories. We. We spoke one time right in the beginning of the show. Jada Kid, he's a Gemini like me. So I had to.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, I noticed.

[Remy Ma]

Explain to him how I've been able to maneuver with this guy and get a word in, you know, throughout the year. You notice he's able to talk a little bit more now. He picked it up. I said, you have to. First thing you have to do is understand Fat Joe Mac. If Joe sex. He was at the club, he came out and it was a hundred niggas out there. It was like 7N out there.

[Jada]

She verified. I like this.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I think 14. 14.

[Remy Ma]

But it was only. But it was only him. So it appears they was all really a lot bigger than him. So in his mind, it's like, yo, they basically add up to about 100. Understood. If Joel comes and he Says we smack the niggas cheek off. The guy probably is not with us anymore. Smacking. He like he is. You gotta understand the way he exaggerates. He just smacked the cheek off. He's being nice. Like you understand? And a lot of these stories I was there for. And I'd be like, nah, it really happened. Or in the beginning, there were times where he would tell me stories about people that were this big and they could hide behind a bag and forth. And then you be with him. I'm with him at a party and the guy walks up. Bad Joe. I'm sitting there like so.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

My God.

[Remy Ma]

Is so. Some of the.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

His name was Nelson.

[Remy Ma]

Dominican.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Nelson.

[Jada]

Joe.

[Remy Ma]

Matt. It's never a lie. Maybe a little gladiation, little sasson, a little. Just a little dobo. Because he's a storyteller.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

At the same time, I appreciate you breaking down.

[Remy Ma]

He doesn't lie.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He don't.

[Remy Ma]

He don't lie. He does not lie.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

So I was in the airport. Your wrist player. You always in the background. Dynasty, Commodity. Was we not on that Runway? So we pay for a concierge service that the minute we get off the plane and take us off, I want

[Jada]

to tell the story.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

They put you in the Porsche and they drive through the airport to your car with your bags. Delta. We was on that Runway that same day we landed from Miami.

[Remy Ma]

Boom.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And then we was gassing the girl. This girl was driving us. And she was like, you know, they very careful. And we was like, yo, cut the shit off. She was like, you see that plane's gonna move. And I was like, yo, come on, just swag around. She was like, oh, we can't do that. We gotta wait for the plane. And that's what the fuck happened in LaGuardia. The plane was landing, somebody was in the middle, right?

[Remy Ma]

We could have been having a different, you know, interview today.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

A different interview. Could have been the Rest in peace Joker. She probably come out with the Fat Joe's greatest hits. And yo, I got the album. I got the verses. Where's it at? Yo, sis, you looking beautiful. You shining this Remy Network.

[Remy Ma]

Yes.

[Jada]

It's the biggest shit in the world.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You got the lawyers and everything, right?

[Remy Ma]

Joe calls me at least once a week. You sure the paperwork is good, sis? You sure everything is. You know, people wait. When it start blowing up, people. I'm like, yo, I'm. It's cool, I think. All right, cool. Five days later. Yes, sis, I noticed the Ribby network. I see you guys in the top apps. Your paperwork is good. I'm just like, you got to appreciate friends like that because now I'm calling them like, yo, that better. That paperwork good, right?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, your lawyer is a great lawyer.

[Remy Ma]

I have to tell him that. Something that crazy, it's not gonna. No, it'll be good. But it's been really, really. It's been an experience that I was not really expecting to enjoy and to like. I'm just like, oh, I got a network. I was trying to start my own talk show. You know, we were doing the Wendy Show. We loved it. Everybody loved us on daytime tv, that shit up.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

We was killing them seeing that shit we on Wendy.

[Remy Ma]

We.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Boy, that daytime. That shit feels so good. The lights are different, James, and the cameras is different.

[Remy Ma]

Giving them the pain that day. This shit is different.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

We was giving them pain with the

[Remy Ma]

bits we started there afterwards. I'm like, you know, I was working on my solo show and I was taking it to these different platforms and the percentages that they was asking for and the portion that they was. It was just ridiculous because I'm like, I'm me.

[Jada]

I'm doing everything and I'm me.

[Remy Ma]

It's not like you're building a new artist. Like, you've seen me on. When you see me on State of the Culture, you see me like, you know, and the real I've done so, you know, I can do it. Why am I giving? So I was talking to my partners and I'm like, yo, can I just put it on my own situation? He was like, you mean like your own network? Yeah, I'm like, no, I don't mean like my own network, but what you mean, like, on my own network? Like, what you talking about? We start talking and we going through the discussions and just kind of like, you ever, like, had an issue with your car or something? Because it was so crazy. By the time you finished, you know, everything about the car, like, it was like one of those type of situations. By the time I was done figuring out how the network works and how everything is needed and to just make it be what it is, I'm like, everybody has the same problem. You have all of these great, young, constant creators, people of color that have podcasts. They have this people out here shooting whole movies on their own, whole series. That's fire. But they don't have a platform or they were just putting it on a tube. And yeah, it's the tool, but unless people know to go to it, you're not going to get the view. They got to know already. So now I have this platform, everybody's going to it because it's Remy's network. And I'm giving you a spot where you can just come and bring a talent. And that's.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

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[Jada]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

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[Jada]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

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[Jada]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Pow, pow. I'm in la, okay? I'm in the Waldorf Astoria. I bump into Charlamagne Garde, okay? Now, no disrespect, but besides the Breakfast Club, I don't know what he got on his network, but they said he sold the shit for 200 million. Now, when I did the Terror Squad deal, they said 20 million. It was more like 10 million. Then it was like, you know, in time, you know, they all got these, like, projected numbers. What, it's gonna be like the Fat Joe numbers? You know the Fat Joe numbers?

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, they got the Chinese, Max. They got some other shit. I sit down, I see, yo, Charlamagne, what's up? God, he's eating breakfast. I just invite myself and shit, order some breakfast. I said, yo, man, you know, they said 200 mil. I know it really ain't 200 mil. The man looked at me and said, oh, no, they gave me 200.

[Remy Ma]

It's 200.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I said, it ain't projected. It ain't supposed to be. It ain't worked its way out in 10 years. This. He said, no, they gave me 200 mil. The minute he told me that, my whole brain said, remy, network better fucking die. Like, don't play that shit. Cause you be a bet. Where's Remy? Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Walking around in flip flops, talking about they sold that shit for 200 mil. She wasn't lawyered up. That's why I keep telling you, it'll

[Remy Ma]

be like Bedford Hills. She's back in Bedford. That's why I always keep in contact with the bottom.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What I tell you. I speak to a lot of people. I know how this industry work. I know how everybody inflate the numbers. They be lying. This. I looked at the man in the eyes and I was like, yeah. You know, I'm thinking he got 20 million. He's saying 200 million. I'm really thinking he got 20 million like fat Joe in his house drinking a coffee, saying he caught 20. Know what I'm saying when I say, yeah, you know, because the numbers don't be the numbers.

[Jada]

He said,

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

oh, no, it was 200. I said 200. I don't know nothing on his network.

[Remy Ma]

I said, no Remy network, though, right?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I know Remy network. We constantly play it in the house, and if you ain't got it, go get it.

[Remy Ma]

I'm just saying, this Remy network, she giving everybody.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

So what you gotta understand is you're giving everybody a chance. You're giving everybody an opportunity. Everybody who don't have the platform to put eyes on it.

[Jada]

I got an independent movie. I could put it on Remy.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yes.

[Remy Ma]

If you make a movie and let's say the movie's about a rapper that used to be a co and now, you know, he wants to be a rap. And you come to me and you just give me the move. That's your movie. It's not me. Like, I don't listen to, like. So whatever your movie is.

[Jada]

Yeah. You know, you don't tell people what kind of movies.

[Remy Ma]

Yeah, I don't even watch all the ones.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Like, I just got a platform.

[Remy Ma]

I'll be over there and I'd be on my own network, like, oh, this movie, Fire. Oh, this series, crazy. But I don't. I'm not in charge of. I don't curate the playlists or, you know, whatever's. Whatever's there. So any movie that you have, whatever we give the artist, the creator, the director, wherever it is, a platform and somewhere where they can display their product.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You know, before the Remy network came out, I was. I was kind of fucking with Tubi for that. I seen this show called Me and the Lesbian, something. He was sleeping with all the legends or some homeboy was hit.

[Remy Ma]

Nah, he was looking through and he

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this guy, he was so lucky. He kept hitting that, knocking down the

[Remy Ma]

tough girls gotta get me and the lesbians on Remy network. Let's see if.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Oh, no, you gotta get that one.

[Remy Ma]

We're gonna. We're gonna list it as the lesbian homie.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

We're gonna put smash on lesbian homie. All of them would say that's the proper way to say it. But not just that, you know, like your friend from up north, what we call that, like, legit, full of tough girls, right?

[Remy Ma]

Ag.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

So he knocked down one. And then she told her friends, like, yo. They said, yo, but you're not gay if you hit slept with a man. Now they always be like, well, you're gonna know if you gay or not if you sleep with somebody. They all kept coming to my man. They was like, bing, bing. You, John, Come on, press your luck. I want to see if I'm fully gay or not.

[Remy Ma]

So now.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Now he was getting.

[Jada]

How you find that move while I'm

[Remy Ma]

sitting on the couch? I realized he's telling a regular random story that nobody asked for, was not solicited, nothing.

[Jada]

Now you see, like your friend from

[Remy Ma]

up north, you know, like, why? What? Like, why would you. Why would you do that to my friend?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, I love her.

[Remy Ma]

She was like that. What?

[Jada]

She tried to

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

see the real deal. She like, she proud of who she is. That's.

[Remy Ma]

I'm not.

[Jada]

All right, we don't gotta say her name Crazy.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I didn't say her name.

[Remy Ma]

Jake, my regular friend know the way the Internet. Oh, her friend is my regular friend. She got her old girlfriend. Like, she's cool. Like.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

So, Rem, you locked up and I know you not pussy at all. Was there like.

[Remy Ma]

Like cop Diesel girl with somebody, like, she. She had more facial hair than you. Everyone, every Friday, hair.

[Jada]

They got chicks in there with bits, goatees.

[Remy Ma]

They connect them.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No.

[Jada]

How they made them.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

They.

[Jada]

You can buy hair.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

They drew this shit on the same way that they have, you know, got your breath. Holla at me. We going in yard.

[Remy Ma]

So now, here was my thing, right?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I swear to God, I was that.

[Remy Ma]

Listen, I'm gonna tell you, I was. Some of it was just a little bit. Me just being me a little bit was just a hating because in prison, in a women's prison, if you are a female, that. That likes other females, but you look more like a guy, you more lit. Like, so the. All the aggressors was lit. These girls was having a family send a whole package to them. They go in the commissary, coming in, get here, fill up the commissary sheet so they sitting in there like kings. They like this. And I'm sitting here like, first of all, they're not even really into girls like that. They only mess with the. If a girl only messages you because you look like a guy, she's really not into girl. So that's one, two. I really beat you the fuck up. I don't care. All that face, you hear. You really not a dude. You really not a man at all. You probably got on panties right now. Like, I'm talking to them crazy. And they used to be trying to talk like they was real men. And I had a problem with that. Like, who talking to?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

So you had mad fights with them?

[Remy Ma]

Every fight I had every fight, except for probably one was with, like, a Ben, my regular girl. Everybody else was like, because people. I smack the shit out of everybody at this table. Oh, not me, though. Why you always gotta say something? Because you just said you gonna smack the shit outta everybody at the table except for me. I just want the record to show that I'm not gonna get smacked. That's it. I don't want no problem. No smoke. She's not gonna smack me. That's it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You know what's crazy? They be trying. They be trying dudes inadvertently, like, they'll be like, you know, like, yo, homeboy say we doing the joint. Yo, Jada, ain't you know what that mean? If you know I'm rocking with him and you gonna. Then you trying me. You trying to try me. Like, yo, my man, how about, that's my man, what's up?

[Remy Ma]

Cause you feel you gotta say so. So here be the thing.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

We're shaking. Like, they try people like that with

[Remy Ma]

me, right with me. I feel like people think that I think that I can't be beat, or I think I'm so tough. It's not that. I just know that I'm willing to take it to the levels that some people are not gonna take it to. Like, I'm not saying that you can't beat me up. Beat me up. But when I come, consequences, repercussions. Like, it would be one of those things. You're like, no, I'm just let her wash me because I'm tired of her. I'm tired of her pushing my grandmother in front of the buses while she was. I'm tired of her. Like, sending kids to beat up my God. Kid that's only 4 years old in daycare. I'm tired of her. I'm sick of her.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Like, I'm not gonna lie to you. I know some guys okay, well, I'm one of them.

[Jada]

Gotta push your grandmother in front of.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Nah, I just can't get beat up. I'm not living with it. Guys, I'm sorry. Y' all can hear Fat Joe got pounded out. Y' all could come to my house. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Fat Joe lost in the physical altercation.

[Jada]

There we go. He's turned into a scholar. Orange scholar.

[Remy Ma]

I don't care if somebody called me, was like, yo, Ram, I just heard Joe just lost a fight. Like, it was that. Like, I'm literally gonna be worried I'm going to the house. Like, I'm gonna go.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, you can come with the mariachi.

[Remy Ma]

I'm calling everybody, calling the lawyers, like, y' all ready?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I know guys who can't get beat up. I know guys that got beat up, disappeared for six months, came back, and, man, it's a bad day for you. So you gotta even be careful on who you beat up. Cause there's some guys.

[Remy Ma]

Yes, that's somebody that you can't beat up.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

They not take an L. They can't take an L. That's a lot of problems with the young kids, too. They can't take the L. They don't

[Remy Ma]

even want to fight.

[Jada]

So.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

But if they do fight and take

[Remy Ma]

the L, I don't even think it's about taking the L. Everything is for social media. Before it was everything. Money's the root of all either evil. Now it's attention everybody. They don't care if it's good attention, bad attention. And then, God forbid they get a taste of it. Something happened. They go viral. Now they're sitting there every day thinking of, what's the next dumbass thing that I could do? Because I have nothing else really going on. So I can go viral again. You know what? Let me just say something stupid like, hey, I'm gonna be. What do you guys. I'm gonna be an astronaut. What do you guys think I should be an astronaut? Bro, you're dumb. No, you're not gonna be an astronaut. No, but they know people are gonna say that. And it keeps. Keeps it going. So if you have these younger kids, grown man, you gotta just keep talking. Don't let him get in. You have these younger guys and these younger girls that they get into an altercation. The first thing they're thinking, like, yo, it's gonna be all over the Internet. I'm gonna be on whatever blog, and it's gonna be the video. It's gonna be people saying this. So now I have to up it even for all. I'm not even gonna let it go to that point. I got the switch soon as it get crazy. And now your whole life is thrown away because you for your fear of being the butt of the joke on the Internet, man.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's crazy because I seen this one guy and I'm not trying to disrespect you. Cause you probably know who you are.

[Jada]

Who?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, I don't know his name or nothing. But he's a guy. He danced like the old school dance. And one time he did it. He went viral, bro. I don't need to watch this guy. Breakfast, lunch and dinner doing the same dance. He's at every party doing the same, trying to get viral again because he got viral the first time. This guy's dancing at every bar mitts.

[Remy Ma]

He don't even get no money for that. You don't get money for it. You get that. You get the.

[Jada]

Oh, that's like.

[Remy Ma]

Well, that's the guy from. From like.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's bad out here.

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[Kal Penn]

hey everyone, it's Kal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay, The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary, Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.

[Ray Porter]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo yo yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it.

[Jada]

I was like, no.

[Ray Porter]

At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great cause it served the story. People will say like oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.

[Kal Penn]

Listen to Irsay, the Audible and iHeart audiobook club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Remy Ma]

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[Jada]

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[Remy Ma]

I got it.

[Jada]

No, I got it.

[Remy Ma]

Seriously. I insist.

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[Remy Ma]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

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[Ray Porter]

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[Remy Ma]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

The clout is all the way bad. But let me tell you something. The clout always been the clout. You know, these cops, they locked me up one time. They came to my house, six in the morning. It was all a setup, by the way. I beat the kids, right? So they come. No, no, I'm just being honest with you.

[Remy Ma]

I know they set you up. I know.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, the guy got beat up by a bunch of Spanish dudes.

[Remy Ma]

Had nothing to do. She wasn't.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I'm in the VIP with my wife. Somebody comes see me the day before and says, yo, the guy. Remember the guy who got beat up at B.B. king? You was a sucker, too. Whoever you is. You a sucker, bro. Like a prime time sucker. So they say, yo, he want 50,000 in the brown paper bag. He says, you beat him up. I had nothing to do with it. I'M with my wife and her friends in the VIP. They come six in the morning, my door. Boom, boom, boom. Jersey, Mr. Cartagena, come with us. You robbed the guy at BB King. You beat him up. This when I tell you I had nothing to do with it, Jada. So I go to the precinct. So the cops come. This is how I'm. This is why I'm explaining it to you. The cops come. Regular boy meet hoodie detectives. So I'm in the thing, you know, obviously, he pointed me out. He had a girl point me out.

[Remy Ma]

She was like.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

To think I was a fan. Like, now, this shit was all a setup, right? The moral to the story is about six hours later, they go to take me to central booking. The same cops walking with fresh haircuts, suits, brand new badges. That's when I knew. I said, oh, shit. The police want the clout. They walking like you. You got a famous picture like you walking out the precinct. Them n couldn't wait. They still jerking off to the picture 20, 26.

[Remy Ma]

The police wanted like, yo, this is

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

when you got the cops trying to

[Remy Ma]

get the clout walking you out. But. But you have to. You know, this is crazy. You have to understand the. The climate, the level of cloud out here. The president of the United States is tweeting that he's happy people are dead. Like, literally, like, he's tweeting that.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What?

[Remy Ma]

Yo, the. One of the guys, he was like, the head of the FBI or something, he died. And even he tweeted like, yo, yeah, I'm glad he's dead now. He stopped harassing innocent people. Like he was investigating him at some point.

[Jada]

Innocent sake.

[Remy Ma]

Like, I was sitting there like, yo, his Gemini knows no bounds. Like, he just.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Well, Trump is a Gemini, too. Like, y' all guys.

[Remy Ma]

Yeah, I never knew that. Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Every time I try to figure out

[Remy Ma]

Jadakiss, I think he do make a

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

little bit of money. I go into the Romney package. You know that shit. Every time I try to figure out Jadakis. Cause he's some work. Don't think I'm just some work. He's some fucking work. I go into the Remy catalog. I said, why he's acting like that? Maybe you know why Remy would act like this right now? Okay, let me figure this out.

[Remy Ma]

I'm changed. Thankfully, I have changed. I'm going into my mogul era. I'm tired of paying people. I'm tired of getting sued. I'm tired of going to central bookings. Like, no, they do it a little nicer than that. I don't go through the bookings like I used to. But they come and get you. Like, they'll say they walk you through the side. Either way, you're still in the booking. Don't be confused. You're still under arrest. And I just. I just don't. I felt like they taught us wrong. You know, we. We all grew up. To me, we all grew up thinking like, oh, you gotta be the toughest. You gotta be the hardest you got. And when it comes to the matters that actually matter in life, the people that you need to be cool and to get certain doors, they don't want the toughest person. They don't want. They. They meek. They. They. They. They're little sheep. They don't want to let a wolf in here. And if you come in there, nine times out of 10, even when I come to now to the day, people like, yeah, that's ramshee. We see it, but we know Remy Ma somewhere in there.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Nah, she ain't in there no more.

[Remy Ma]

She in there.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

She's a mom. She's in there.

[Remy Ma]

In there for sure. For sure.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Your Ram just said you don't like that no more.

[Remy Ma]

Just because I don't like it, just because I don't like it. And just because I don to be, that doesn't mean you always got to stay on point. You could drop me off. Anything could happen today, tomorrow. You drop me off in the hood, I'm gonna be good. I'm okay. One, I'm not that far gone. Wherever I'm at, jail, prison, Beirut, Africa, South America, I'm gonna figure it out for sure, 100%.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I do not know where I was at. I think I was in Miami. Bell harbor, something. I took the elevator door open. It looked like a guy that it could go down with. Like, you know, it looked like he could be a problem. In Bell harbor, the nicest place in the world. The door open. I'm by myself. I see the guy. Something rubbed me wrong. I said, oh, shit. And then I realized, he walks in, I walk out, I said, yo, this shit could get popping anywhere. Anywhere. Like, you know, I'm in Bell harbor, you know, about to eat some steak and sushi and shit and chill. And the door opened, and I said, okay, this guy meet me, you know? Cause you could tell when people don't like you. You know what I'm saying? You got that. Nah, real talk. You could tell when people got a vibe. Like, it's a vibe about them that you just like, all right, you know, how about I Don't like you either.

[Remy Ma]

I'm about to say I be okay when people like, I can't, I can't. Go ahead, I'm waiting. I'm sitting here this little nice. Hehe, ha ha. What? Why am I here?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What are we doing?

[Remy Ma]

What's going on? What are we talking about? Tell me something. Jada got the nice nails all polished.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You got something to ask this woman that she.

[Jada]

I'm here for the people. Y' all over here promoting violence.

[Remy Ma]

I'm never promoting violence. I never promote violence.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

All I can say is with you,

[Jada]

because you got everything going on. You're capitalizing and conquering land and having your network and doing, doing shit. I call it doing shit. You get money and you living life beautifully. And you know what I mean? Handling business. How you gauge when to make music and release music? Is it when you get pissed off? Is it just when you hear something you like? Is it when you hearing a bunch of shit you hate or.

[Remy Ma]

So when it comes to music, and it's sad because music is like, that's my baby. That's how I got here. I tell people all the time, like, hip hop is the most amazing stepping stone ever. You stand on that drone, you be an actor, you be a owner of a network, you have a hair company, you have coffee, all this just because you know how to rap good. Because let's be clear, the ones that don't really know how to rap that good, it don't really never really pan out for them. I had a conversation with somebody when they was like, I don't know, I always thought rappers are dumb. I was like, not the good ones. All the good ones, I know not only they're extra smart, they're funny, they have a, they could be borderline comedians. And they're really smart. The whack ones, yeah, they're dumb. They're not too intelligent. But I feel like when I realized I just used to want to be the nicest, I used to. I grew up listening to you, listening to X. Listening to the answer right then to

[Jada]

cut you off is the answer. That is the perfect answer. And if you ask these so called MCs, they will never give that answer.

[Remy Ma]

Yeah, I just, I just wanted to be the best. I just want to be the nicest ever. Like once people was like, yo, run really got. I was cool. Anything after that, I was cool with it. If I make some bread off of it, cool if, if I, if I'm able to put out another project, cool. But when you start doing other Things and. And be clear. I know my pen go. I am the nicest. None of these chicks and smooth. Most of these dudes can't touch me when it comes to the draft thing. But it's a gamble. And when you know you nice and you gambling with your talent, it's frustrating when you start doing other things and seeing how much more money you can make, guarantee money. Like, I know for a fact my check is going to be there. I know for a fact it's going to clear. I'm not worrying about sales. I'm not worrying about getting on the road. It's going to be there when you start realizing that you can take your other talent and make just as much, if not more money. Unfortunately, your love and the music, it takes a backseat.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I think it might have fucked up the game, though, because me and him, you know, other than we doing this, I don't know what he's doing. Right? But this is my job.

[Remy Ma]

You're a fucking liar. Cause I just spoke to Dre yesterday. He told me you got a fucking boy. Why you lying? You're lying. Listen. What. What you was about to say. He was about to sit here and tell me, this is my. This is my job. This is what.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

This is my job.

[Remy Ma]

I just sent him a beat the other day. I just sent him some shit the other day. That's crazy. So he's about to rap, and Dre just told me 24 hours ago, yo, crack ain't let you. I said no. I said, oh, he hiding. So outside of the one, I got a date off.

[Jada]

This is secondary.

[Remy Ma]

Now he has a day off.

[Jada]

I think that's why they get this

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

is secondary for you.

[Jada]

It's my job. I call it 1B.

[Remy Ma]

I like calling it.

[Jada]

Call it 1B. But rapping 1A all forever after they mail me to the 1A.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

1A.

[Jada]

But like she said, after people like us find out you got all.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

But that's what I'm trying to say. Everybody. Juice, Rum.

[Remy Ma]

I just seen. I just seen a TS sweatsuit.

[Jada]

Yeah, I need my TS sweats. When you.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I told Slow yo could happen, though, if it.

[Jada]

If once people start realizing that the real bags is elsewhere, then you don't want them to.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

If you think about it's not necessary

[Remy Ma]

that it's elsewhere because you have some people who have been equal to category, and then you did both. But there's this other particular group of people that they don't get it. I don't care how nice you are, how spiritual, lyrical miracle put them all Together like when you get to the point and it's not creating income, it's not creating revenue, you are in your 40s, maybe 50s, and it has not hit like now what do you do? And you sometimes when it comes to those people, they don't know how to take it. Like, you see how you like. Yo, it's 1A, 1B. Because you have the option to have that. Joe has the option to sit here on this couch. He could go do rewind, he go sitting up nyc, he could go worry about some other property shit he got going on. And then if he decides to have one of the biggest producers in the game that happens to be our brother, send him something, he go in the studio, then, then he can, he can do it as he, as he choose. Some people, they don't have that liberty. They really in that studio every day, every night, trying to make a hit, hoping that it changed their life. And some people's life is just never going to change. Unfortunately. No, I'm not even trying to be funny. Everybody can't be a superstar in music every single, everywhere you go. Not many times I sit down.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

How hard is it for you to see stuff online and all that and just stay quiet and just because you've been a real, like, you've been a real adult.

[Remy Ma]

Well, it depends.

[Jada]

It depends because she's growing, she's growing.

[Remy Ma]

I'm at the house, I'm sure I'm calling Joe on the way. Like, Joe, you gonna be mad before they call you and tell you I'm telling you where I'm going. Bye. Hang up. Like now it's more like for me, when I know the truth, when you know the real somebody's sitting there talking lies about you, saying that you're a certain type of person and you know that's not you. I'm not arguing with you about who I am because I know who I am. And not for nothing, you know who I am. You could lie to all the people that all you want now when it gets to the point it's fair.

[Jada]

I don't like when it, when it's, when it's displayed on the cyber world.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What you mean like relationship people, they don't care.

[Remy Ma]

So here's the thing.

[Jada]

But it's uncontrollable to control it.

[Remy Ma]

And also you can't, you can't want people want the praise and the love when shit good and then when shit shit bad, you gotta take it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You gotta go to the hospital for flu and throw the camera on your face.

[Remy Ma]

But here's my issue.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Prayers up. Like, yo, my man, get the.

[Remy Ma]

I don't.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

If you don't get the up out of here, my man.

[Remy Ma]

I don't know how to argue on the Internet. Like, I don't. I'm not. I'm not arguing with nobody on the Internet. I'm not going back and forth because I. I am going as soon, as soon as you say, though, or post the one thing that I'm at your doorstep also, nine times out of 10, I probably won't do something to you anyway. And I don't want to track record. So I'm talking to you about. Talk to yourself. Say what y' all want. Create whatever navigation.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Man, they on me all day. Everybody in the world, in real life,

[Remy Ma]

I'm not sitting here acting like I'm the toughest or because I went to prison. I'm just. When I tell you nobody disrespects me. Like, in real life. I have. I have a great life. But when I tell you nobody. And it's not because I never get disrespected. It's not because of my brother. No, no. It's not because of who my brother is. Not cause of who my. Who I'm with. It's. I've always got respect because of me. People respect me because of me. And not just because I'm saying you should respect, but I give respect. I'm not just a disrespectful person. I don't just like this. This. I realized it took me years to realize what people think you are is what they go by. So there's times where perception. Yeah, perception, where people think. Think you are. They'll. That's what they go. It's been times I walk into situations and I felt the energy when I walk in the room, like, oh, okay, I see what's up. By the time I'm going, everybody loves me because this is. No. Why would you not love me? I'm.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I'm.

[Remy Ma]

I'm actually fire.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You got that terror squad DNA.

[Remy Ma]

I just. I just feel like when

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I die ain't fuck. By the time I leave, they're like, damn, that was a people lie on you.

[Remy Ma]

Your natural reaction is to be like, that's not what happened. This is what happened. But I realized if you just do this, Wait a little while, people start saying for theyself, you ain't you. You don't even say nothing. I don't want to talk. I don't have to talk. I don't have to say nothing. And Those who can't understand the government, then maybe it's not for you can't fool all the people all the time. You can fool some of the people some of the time.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And I got one of my.

[Remy Ma]

Not all the people all the time.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I got one of my man's jewelry.

[Remy Ma]

Yeah, you can fool some of the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time. You cannot fool all the people all the time. It just doesn't work like that.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I got one of my best friends came to me and he's like, yo, one of our other best friends is talking about him. Or former best friends talking about him. He's like, yo, all I did. No, no, I'm talking about family shit. I'm just speaking in general. One of my mans, one of my best friends came to my house the other day. First of all, if he comes to my house, he's one of the beyond close ones, right? So he's sitting down. Yo, you believe such and such is talking about me and this and this and that. And, you know, after everything I did for him and how I looked out and this and this and that. And I hear him struggling with it, and I'm like, yo, bro, listen, it's gonna get even uglier. Like, you know, I've looked out for people and they dead ass don't went on camera. Like, he never gave me what I tell you.

[Remy Ma]

And I'm like, joe called me out. We be on the phone, mind you, we only face. We only talk on FaceTime. Joe calls me on a regular call. I'm worried something's happening. Why are you calling me regular? We only talk on FaceTime. Bonnet, chest, hairs out. That's how we talk, right? So he's on the phone, right? He said he was like, sis, I'm the only one you, like, call your body, right? Yeah, that's right. But anyway, so you have. He would call me and he'd be upset and like, yo, I gave him this and I bought a new house and I got a new car. And he was behind in the child support. And I used to. My favorite line, I tell, I say it. It's like one of my models. People don't want what you give them. They want what you got. It's so funny because I hear people say it now. They probably don't even know that it came from me. People don't want what you give them. They want what you got. So you can give them a new house. But you go, you. You go, you go Get a new car. The same person that you just bought a house, they sitting there like, well,

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I ain't get a new car.

[Remy Ma]

You pop out with a new Jerry on. Just change your setup. I cool. This nigga walking around with New Jersey. I got the same old. It's mine. So you have to come to a point. I had to really tell him one day. We sat down, he was. I said, joe, you don't owe nobody nothing. You don't own nobody nothing. Your kids are grown. Everybody who's coming to you are grown. With kids that are grown, I don't ask my brother for anything. I don't come to borrow no money from him. I don't come to help you. I got this crazy people always got the craziest ideas that involve your money and their idea. I don't come there for that. You don't owe nobody nothing. Don't let nobody make you feel like you owe them. Don't make. Let nobody make you feel like you don't deserve what you have. We don't know how long we gonna be here. We have one life.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What's the. What's the craziest shit, friend or family member idea they had they wanted you to invest in? What's the craziest idea you ever heard?

[Remy Ma]

I go, I had. Somebody wanted me to invest in a gambling spot. I said, you mean gambling? Word of it being gamble? Yeah, I'd rather not now. You could be like the house. Oh, you want me to be the bank for your gambling? But yeah, okay, yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What was one of the.

[Jada]

All type of shit, food trucks, gambling spots.

[Remy Ma]

Insane.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Okay. You don't go in the middle and be like, yo, I don't think you should ask him for that right now. God, no.

[Remy Ma]

You know, the. You know, here's my thing. I think when. So here's. I feel like us. You know, where we come from, that's the thing with us. Because I don't see somebody who goes to work 9 to 5. I have this argument like, yo, you had. You went to such and such concert. You ain't take me or you. I'd be like, so if I had a regular 9 to 5, right? And we had an office Christmas party, you wouldn't come. You wouldn't come. I'm not gonna be at work in my office. You're sitting in the coffee break room. You're not gonna. So let's treat. This is my job at the end of the day. So, no, you're not coming. It's not a big party. We're not Doing that. But you have people that be upset. I had a. A former friend tell me, you know, you ain't never take me, you know, I was never at no video shoots. I never, you know, went to any of the parties and this and this like that. That's. That's crazy to me.

[Jada]

You really wronged them.

[Remy Ma]

But listen to me. I said, right? She had never been in any video shoots. Never been in the studio with me. Nothing. I said, but you were invited to my baby shower. You were invited to my wedding, my housewarming, like the regular barbecue that I have at my house.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Real shit, real love.

[Remy Ma]

Things that matter and they don't care because that doesn't matter because they're somewhere telling somebody else, I know Jadakiss. I know Fat Joe. Well, why you wasn't at his party then? Why you wasn't on Joe and Jada then? If you know him or if you know him, why you working two jobs? That's your friend. He working two jobs. I had to explain to somebody, like, one of my friends that I. Like, most of my friends that I have that's not in the industry are my friends that I did time with. Like, those became my real friends because they were my friends when I was all in the same. We was in the same boat. You know what I'm saying? So one of my friends, she had came to me. She had got into an argument with somebody that we was in. Just like, yo, you be going mad hard for her. She don't even fuck with you like that. You got two jobs. She should put you in position to this. And she was like. I said, you want me to get. She's like, I didn't really know how to explain, explain it to them. But I was just like, she's on some. Like you. I don't care. That's my friend. That's it. I said, explain it to them like this. I met you when we incarcerated. I was 26 years old. You know how many friends I had before I got to you? You know how many family members, cousins, nieces, this, this. Before I get to you, if I'm saying nobody has to work because you know me, you don't gotta work. You don't gotta do nothing. You get to drive the best cars, living in the best neighborhood. Before I get to a girl that I met was when I was incarcerated, I got so many other people to get to before I get to them, like, it's just never gonna happen like that. It just doesn't make sense. And you got people that's out here that really think like that. They feel like if you are a celebrity and if you make money or you rich, anything that happens to you, you deserve it. If somebody attacks you, oh, well, you shouldn't want to be famous. Oh, every. Like it's a.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's horrible.

[Remy Ma]

You get penalized for being famous.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's horrible.

[Remy Ma]

You're not allowed to have real feelings. You're not. Oh, you respond to somebody else. She must ain't got no work. She got time. Nah, I seen yours. Because you the only one out of the 2,000 comments that's popping shit. So, yeah, yours stood out. Now I'm a bomb on you. And now you block. Took all of 10 seconds out of my life. I didn't. I didn't lose a contract. I didn't lose nothing to wow you out. See how I just turned into the regular memory right there? No, because it came right out.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I answer the bum. And then everybody get mad at me.

[Remy Ma]

Yo, but that's what, that's what the disrespectful bums of the world are banking on. They're hoping that they can disrespect you. No, no, no. They don't want a response. They're hoping that they can disrespect you, continue to disrespect you, and that either you or someone around you is going to say, don't respond to them. They beneath you. But in their world, they. They good. In their world and they world, they are big fish. Like, I really had somebody tell me who somebody who is nobody to me. Nobody. They more. They more lit. You more lit than me because you're a clown. You're a clown like me. I'm the type of person I'd rather don't talk about them. I've called blogs before. Like, yo, take that post down. They be like, but we were saying something good. I don't give a fuck. I don't want you talking good about me. Don't talk bad about. Don't talk about me, period. Because you think because you posted something good about me. Yeah, it's cool. So now when you come next week and post some fuck shit, you going to be like, well, you just say nothing when you posting that I know. Type of time. Take me off your page.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I don't.

[Remy Ma]

Before you run into me in a. In the bathroom somewhere.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I don't get it.

[Jada]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

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[Kal Penn]

hey everyone, it's Kalpen. I'm the host of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project, Hail Mary Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone very far from Earth.

[Ray Porter]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating so some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo yo yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I was like, no.

[Ray Porter]

At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah dude, me too.

[Kal Penn]

Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Remy Ma]

So good. Your bill, ladies. I got it. No, I got it. Seriously, I insist.

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[Remy Ma]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

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[Remy Ma]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

REM how many years you been with me? REM?

[Remy Ma]

29.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Have you ever seen a single human being play me pussy in your life?

[Remy Ma]

It was this one time, right?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah. Yeah. Rem, it was this.

[Remy Ma]

I'm gonna tell you. The closest ever, right? The closest ever. I've never ever playing pussy. That one time when we was in Miami and we were surrounded by 300 niggas. For real.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Is it 330?

[Remy Ma]

REM okay, it was about 100.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Now it was about 150 niggas, at least.

[Remy Ma]

For real. It was a lot.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And the most notorious niggas to ever live in the United States of America.

[Remy Ma]

Joe's about 6, 4 or something. This guy's about 5 inches taller than Joe. He's about the color of this pillow. The only thing you see is the white of his eyes. And he's grilling Joe like this, right? And Joe's standing there. Joe, like this. In my head. All I'm saying is don't look away. Cause whoever look away first is pussy. Do not look away. You better not look away. This is what I'm saying to my head. Joe like this, nigga looking at him. This shit probably went on for about three seconds. In my brain. It felt like an hour we were standing there. I don't know where God sent these two police angels from, but I didn't know where these two cops just walking. All right, guys, break this up. Split it up. I was just happy because it was not going to end well for us. We were definitely outnumbered. But I felt good in my heart.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It wasn't gonna end well.

[Remy Ma]

My brother My brother, who. He thought he was a seven, didn't look away. I was like, that's right. We do not look away. I don't care. We got stairs down to the end. Like, they ain't blinking nothing.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

So no, seeing that story I tell all the time, the guy was like seven feet cocked.

[Remy Ma]

Yeah, I was there.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, I was in jail.

[Remy Ma]

Oh, that guy.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Dude was waiting for me. His arms was like a wrestler, like Jim D, this guy was. So I looked at him, he tried in front of me. I said, my man, are you. Do you know who you trying to.

[Remy Ma]

You're gonna need a hundred more of you.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Like, the nerve of you. Are you.

[Remy Ma]

Me?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Are you? I was actually shocked. I was like, yo, I'm shocked you trying to talk to me. But no, I thought you was talking about that night.

[Remy Ma]

That with the.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That was that night.

[Remy Ma]

EMF dudes. Yeah, in Miami. It was crazy. So his. But some people watch this and be like, that's dumb. That's how you get injured. That's me knowing my brother, and we're cut from the same cloth. The pain that I would be in knowing that I let somebody punk me. Me knowing, fuck, I don't care if nobody's there. It's me and the one for me. Me knowing that I let you get away with that. I can't sleep. So we might as well just. We might as well just shake this shit up.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Start moving the furniture. Now, your favorite rappers down the strip,

[Jada]

all over you heard, you keep talking

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

about, they were chasing all your favorite rappers.

[Jada]

They wasn't chasing Thousand sheep.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, they wasn't.

[Jada]

Who the fuck was they chasing?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Man, it was bad out there. It was a sad day for hip hop. Let me tell you something. I had a couple of sad days for hip hop where I looked around and I was the only guy, I swear. Yo, I'll tell you a quick story.

[Jada]

He knows never a quick story. I don't talk about these kind of things. Cause I'm affiliated with some really dangerous people. And a lot of shit happened. And it helped all type of people. I seen all type of shit happen to executives, artists, so called gangsters, drug dealers, kingpins, ladies.

[Remy Ma]

You ever seen something happen to me?

[Jada]

No.

[Remy Ma]

You ever seen something happen to Joe?

[Jada]

No. Did you ever see anything happen?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

But what we saying is what I'm saying.

[Remy Ma]

So we good and that and that. And. And there goes what I'm talking about.

[Jada]

Nobody ever did anything to me in this music industry besides words. So it's no example regular.

[Remy Ma]

But that's how I haven't had a physical.

[Jada]

Ain't it been so long I didn't even got.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's how I feel.

[Jada]

Nah, but I'm telling you, I'm outside everywhere I'm outside.

[Remy Ma]

Yes.

[Jada]

See me. What we talking about and I don't see. Let's talk about the Yankees, let's talk about the Knicks. Let's talk about like.

[Remy Ma]

But I don't even. I think. I think we've all been blessed enough to make it to where we are now. I know I never thought.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

But the reason I brought that up is what I'm telling you is I be looking sometimes very. I don't know more. I had a name for them too. And don't say it. You gotta use the bathroom. Sky Rizzy. No, no, they got a new one. Trim Fire. Y' all kiss Trent Fire. Moment. But I look at the blogs and dudes be talking mad reckless in the blogs like, like, yo, if I saw a homie, I just. This, I don't know where that.

[Remy Ma]

Once I see. Once I see. See anybody making any type of physical threat on social media, I automatically think, you pussy. And you're not gonna do nothing either. It's either two things. It's either you're batshit crazy and you wanna go to jail and you're just leaving a record of it. So when you do it and they come back, they can be like, you only gotta go try. Right here. You said you was gonna do it, you did it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Or somebody did that.

[Remy Ma]

Or you don't plan on doing nothing because why, why would you do that? Why are you sitting here like, what, what possessed you? Like somebody got you so mad that you went on there and when I catch you and when I see you, I send something like that to your personal phone. But I would never put nothing like that on the Internet. It just doesn't make sense to me. And most of the time it never happened. You see the follow up video a couple of months over where they was in the same place and someone came and said, this is not worth it. And they squashed it. Like that's nuts all the time. Like all the time. I know people who literally was doing something knowing that they never had no interest. They, they, this person was the last person they ever wanted to run into on the quiet street. It was talking crazy, but they felt comfortable doing it because they knew nine times out of 10, if and when they ever ran into this person, it was probably going to be somewhere in a type of setting like this where somebody's going to have enough or A little bit of sense to be like, chill, don't do that. Yo, y' all could talk, come over here, whatever. Fortunately, you know, unfortunately, some people don't really be on it like that. Some people's like, yo, okay, you said that one. Stand on it. Don't. Don't think we could come later and piece it up. Because now unless you plan on apologizing or piecing it up the same way

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

you were disrespecting, gonna have to fight like 18 people or something.

[Remy Ma]

First of all, nine times I said, the people he be arguing with is never even gonna. They don't even. They're not even in the tax bracket to be in the rooms that he'd be in. That's one. And if they happen to be in the same place, he's. He's in there moving how he's supposed to move, like us, like a super rich mogul that he is. Yeah. Everybody talking all crazy, but they be running around with something. Do you see what's on my arms? Do you see? Why would I be standing in this hole in the wall waiting for you to come over here to. Because you. You can't possibly think you're just gonna come over here and do something to me. Yeah, they do all that and they be having security. That's. I encourage anybody. Anybody.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I don't think that's an issue no more.

[Jada]

Right.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Back in the day, used to say, no security, no people.

[Remy Ma]

People still be trying to pull that car. Yeah, you got security. You got. If you more. No, if you're worth anything.

[Jada]

Security than the seven million dollar bill

[Remy Ma]

or not even that. Because I just feel like if you have anything that you feel is worth anything, you are supposed to protect it. And in most situations, we are the brand. Why would I let your bum, Dusty, dirty, peeling back cuticle ass near me? You're never gonna touch me.

[Jada]

See that thing right there? Y' all just talking about what Styles had a big problem with what, What Stabbing, shooting, doing all that. It was costing them, allegedly. When you start eating plants, start figuring

[Remy Ma]

out, calm down, I don't even think you know what it is. And this. And I, and I, And I love Styles. Like, I went to. I went to his dispensary.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yo.

[Remy Ma]

The problem with some of us, and I'm not gonna say, but someone like a Styles, we grew up different. We grew up where you can't just say you gonna do something to somebody and then see them and don't do it. You can't threaten people. You can't even. You can't even really come in my space and disrupt what I got going on here. Because who you talking to? Who you talking then? But we live in an era where people don't care. I know for a fact that there are people who know if you go up to Fat Joe and you say X, Y and Z, it's probably not going to end well. He's going to react. There's certain people that I know I might walk up to and I say this and they ain't going to do nothing. So they come hoping like, all right, I know he's going to do. I hope he do just enough so that I could get some money out of it. But I don't think he gonna kill me.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You know how many lawsuits Mike Tyson paid for Mike Tyson might have?

[Remy Ma]

Cause why are you playing with Mike Tyson? Like, why are you playing Mike Tyson? Just listen to me here. Listen to me. I tell people all the time, stop playing Rhinoceros Punching. Stop playing with real niggas. People be out here playing with real niggas. People be out here playing with people that really. They never. They not playing with you. They. They not used to the disrespect. They not used to the Internet, hehe, haha shit. And it's gonna be an issue. Like I believe I really be sitting in my Christmas time like, y' all should turn this up. And then I'll be like, you know what? All I' ma do is make another Nobody lit. All I'm gonna do is get somebody who probably wouldn't have been able to go on that trip. Now they on the trip. I don't literally paintings and watch them

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

every now and trip with my bread.

[Remy Ma]

Like I'm watching them.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

If right now I have an argument with a dude coming outside this building and they film me, all of a sudden Pedro becomes famous. Somehow he's arguing with Joe. He's somebody telling his story. I did the 2 to 4 sing sing, banged out the guards. Yo, my man, you nobody, right? But we gotta be careful. Cause somebody could get us upset.

[Remy Ma]

So.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And you know.

[Remy Ma]

And before you know it run down the stairs that nobody knew who the fuck they was. They was living in they fucking corner crusty house, eating ramen noodles. Now they lit cause you said something to them.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I don't understand that.

[Remy Ma]

So crazy. It's happened to me before with music.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, it's happened to you with music.

[Jada]

Right?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Let's get back to the regular schedule program with music. Where you at with your music? Are you ever coming out with music? Are you like Me though.

[Jada]

You listen to it.

[Remy Ma]

I mean. All right, so here's the thing.

[Jada]

I'm working right now.

[Remy Ma]

Here's the thing. I might be the. I. I used to clown Dre from Cool Than Dre for this because Dre had the most amazing award winning album for like 20 years. That's never come out. He keeps taking like, we were like, yo, put it out. It's fire. It's crazy. He'll take another song out, put a new one in, take another one out, put in. I've been doing that. But see, mine is a little bit different.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's good.

[Remy Ma]

Prior to Covid, everything was lined up to go. I decided to have my daughter. I had my daughter. That pushed things back. I thought it was only pushing back a couple of months. It pushed it back about two years. Pushed it back about two years. And then Covid happened, so that added another two years. We come out of COVID and I just been doing State of the Culture in the crib online. Cracking them like, all right, hold on, wait. The music cool. But let's figure out how to get into this bag over here. I ain't even have to lead a crazy. So it's like we would do me and Joe. We will do. Or I. I have an urge. Like, I came here today, I was. And I was in the studio last night. I hear beat or something that inspires me or I just think of something like. I feel like as artists, sometimes something you like. Oh, that's fire. I gotta. I gotta put that down. And I feel like it's time. I feel like it's time. This year is the 20 year anniversary of my first and only solo album. 20 years this year, and I still step on that stage. Shake it with conceited. Shake it with whatever. Shake it like that feels so good,

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

you know, she gets a big. No, no is she gets upset when I start dancing at her shows, like behind her. Like, we all in it, apparently. You don't think I could dance. It's right.

[Remy Ma]

That it be. That it be. It's a lot. It'd be a lot of hips going on. He do this with his lips. Like it was only this particular song when this one, he does this little hip thing. He got the lips.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I'd be like, I'm in his box.

[Remy Ma]

You see the snap. You see him hit the snap. I feel like it's time a couple of times that I wanted to put music out. I feel like we, we were in a different climate. I felt like it's time to make. Make bitches rap again. Like, y' all gotta start rapping again. And. And who else better than me than to be like, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You know, I always feel like you're the best female rapper.

[Remy Ma]

Jadakiss doesn't feel like that. I'm not in his top five female rappers.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

How you gonna say that?

[Remy Ma]

I saw the episode. I'm not in his top five female rappers.

[Jada]

I don't like.

[Remy Ma]

You don't like list.

[Jada]

No, because too many of you.

[Remy Ma]

That's. That's strange. I never found it hard to put you in my top five, so. I mean, yeah, I miss too many.

[Jada]

You in my top five.

[Remy Ma]

Nah, I'm gonna get top off. Cause I'm sitting here right now. Nah.

[Jada]

Watch the next show.

[Remy Ma]

Y' all don't notice my keep doing it. You know, My first single ever, Jadakiss was on. Like, it never came out. Like, it came out, but it didn't come out. It was when I was on Loud Records, right after I started my deal. Remember with Loud? Loud went under. I had a record. It's called Monster, and Jada was on it. It's my first ever.

[Jada]

Me and Rim got a. Me and Rim always been tight.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And you supporting the ladies, man, you just did. Angela Renee Simmons.

[Jada]

You forgot her name.

[Remy Ma]

Just. Just doing anything.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yo, this guy's crazy. Yeah, yo. No, no, I'm just saying anything.

[Jada]

20 something years with this guy's crazy.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Really crazy.

[Remy Ma]

Listen, really.

[Jada]

She did call me, ladies and gentlemen. Give me the tutorial kiss. This is how you gotta. This is what you need to do for crack.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You gave him the warning

[Jada]

when they was doubting, and they didn't think it was gonna happen.

[Remy Ma]

My Gemini brother was happening. I said, listen, you gotta get in. He not gonna let you in if you let him. He gonna talk all day. He gonna tell every story. It's never a short story. It's entertaining. So you'll get sucked in. He's very entertaining. Pause. Well, I don't know. I don't think. They said, girls don't have to pause.

[Jada]

No, you don't have to.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

But girls don't got applause for what?

[Jada]

They're the ones. They're the opposite side of Paul.

[Remy Ma]

They, they, they, they. It's a great thing. You want to get sucked.

[Jada]

I don't work for girls. How does it pause for a lady? She said something about.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Look, man, I noticed the pause is only your guys.

[Remy Ma]

You want to pause somebody.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Okay. Just killing me up here.

[Remy Ma]

You will be scared, Joe. You say the most played things. I be sitting there. Soon as I be Sitting like, oh, my. Look at the throat.

[Jada]

You hear laying.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Sis, let me explain something to you. Before rap music, I used to tell dudes, no pics, no pics, no pics. I was the guy that wasn't jumping in people's pics. Cause that's how the feds was catching people. I tell our stories to us, but if anybody came up in that studio that we wasn't cool, we didn't know. This is that I would not talk in front of, right? This poor shit. I ain't never played this in my life. And I done got 20,000 flags stone because of the PO. Now I gotta be like a PO catalog. Now. I gotta watch everything. I. Huh. Excuse me.

[Remy Ma]

I want to say something, right? And this Timberland logo. Listen, Joey, Joey. I want to say that I'm happy. I'm happy to see you here. You get to. I call you. You doing your graffiti shit. You drawing. You chilling. You get to come here, throw all your fly shit on, tell your stories. His fa. His favorite thing is telling stories. Like, I want y' all to know it's. It's great here because we're in the setting where the camera's on. He tells these stories at home. You're not allowed to look at your phone. Nothing. He's like, ram. Ram. I'm like. I'm like. I'm just sending a text. He'll. He'll wait till your text is done. You better put the phone. Because he has to have your full undivided attention for you to be able to be in this space and just do something that you naturally do and get to your bag. I love that for you.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I love you more. But you know who I love? My goddaughter baby.

[Remy Ma]

That one there.

[Jada]

She's singing that ushering Wale song out fire.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I got four different in my room.

[Remy Ma]

Mad baby.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

This one here, she comes in. She come to the room. Pop. Pop me at me, tell you something. I said, sorry. She said, you got four pictures.

[Remy Ma]

I think you're on five. No, but what he's not telling you is they sit on the phone on FaceTime and gas each other all day. Mama, you so beautiful. Oh, I love you. So pretty. You so. You're so sweet.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I'm a pretty good godfather, right?

[Remy Ma]

And then she goes right back, papa, you so fly. Let me see your sneakers. Those are the flies. Really, Mama? Yes, Papa. They don't even use their real voices. I'm in a side vomit like this disgusting. Like, I can't even talk. Like ser. I. When I threaten like that. People like, y', tell your father. I'm telling you, grandma. Like, I be like, you want me tell your godfather what you did, what you just did?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You know, she come in my house. She run the whole. They come in no bathing suit, no nothing. They got to go out and buy the bathing suit, come back. Cause she want to go in the pool, her and Lonnie, and they just run shit real bad. I keep saying that I want to be so rich by the time she gets 18, that when she about as

[Remy Ma]

he age, he's ruining my life, guys.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

She could just walk in and be like, yo, pop, Pop, I'm taking the boat.

[Remy Ma]

This guy tells my daughter, I listen to mommy, but I promise you, you're not gonna have to work. I be like, yo, bro, why are you telling her that? She has chores. Go clean them toys.

[Jada]

Get the toys up.

[Remy Ma]

Papa said, I don't have work popping out here. Clean that shit up on me. A problem.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

My family know that's part of my, like, yo, I want to get to the point of where she lived like that.

[Remy Ma]

She's.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

She's a fucking pastor.

[Remy Ma]

One of the few real men in the world. He thinks the woman shouldn't work. She shouldn't have to pay bills. Like, he. He strongly feels like that. Like, I keep trying to tell, like, yo, hook me up. The, like, find the people that think like you. I'm tired of paying. I've been paying forever. I don't pay the war.

[Jada]

You shouldn't have to.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

This ain't that.

[Remy Ma]

And that.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's cracking. Kiss, God damn it.

[Jada]

Make some noise. For real,

[Remy Ma]

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