Rick Ross ADDRESSES Drake beef & talks upcoming ‘Set In Stone’ album, Verzuz battle with French Montana & new book

Summary

Joe and Jada: Rick Ross Addresses Drake Beef & Talks Upcoming ‘Set In Stone’ Album (May 19, 2026)

Hosts: Fat Joe (Joe Crack), Jadakiss (Jada)
Guest: Rick Ross (Ricky Rozay)
Special Appearance: Book Co-Author Neil Beckham

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Overview

This special episode of Joe and Jada welcomes Rick Ross—rapper, mogul, and entrepreneur. The conversation dives deep into Ross’s legendary hustle, his creative process, the origins of his beef with Drake, strategies for generational wealth, upcoming album and book releases, and the realities of loyalty in hip-hop. The warm, candid, and often hilarious discussion touches on legacy, rivalry, business, and surviving through adversity.

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Show Highlights & Structure

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1. Rick Ross: Defining the Hustler’s Spirit (02:19 – 11:57)

• Joe and Jada introduce Rick Ross, highlighting his multifaceted career—boss, mogul, mentor, author, father, and “serial entrepreneur.”
• Fat Joe shares personal stories of witnessing Ross's relentless hustle (“I’ve seen you risk your life hustling for the bag... you caught a seizure on the plane or some shit like that?” [06:38]).
• Rick Ross highlights the necessity of resilience and ambition:

  "Niggas gotta paint that picture to build that bridge to the destination at all times... even if a nigga land up in the hospital and can’t speak, got the tube down his throat, the mind and the brain won’t stop, the ambition won’t stop. That won’t stop till a nigga heart freeze." (09:56)

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2. The Art and Mathematics of “Moving for the Bag” (11:11 – 12:45)

• Ross reveals the reality behind performance numbers—Dubai gigs vs. local shows, leveraging appearances for multiple business partnerships, and the need for relentless effort.

  "When I'm walking through somewhere, that’s 30 businesses walking through with me... That’s 75,000 a night in Dubai. Then we’ll go to a barn in Augusta." (11:26)

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3. Friendship, Loyalty & Legendary Hustle (12:45 – 19:01)

• Fat Joe & Jadakiss joke and reminisce about club days, mustache tales, and legendary moments in sports, highlighting longevity and their brotherhood with Ross.
• Discussion on how sporting icons and celebrity encounters lend texture to the hip-hop lifestyle.

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4. The Versuz Era & How Real Hip-Hop Competitions Unfold (19:35 – 21:46)

• Conversation turns to recent Verzuz events, competitive energy, and what separates friendly competition from real rivalry.
• Ross underscores that battles should be about mutual shine, not animosity:

  “Go to the bag, shine together. Yeah, go show them your sneakers and your jewels, nigga. That's it. Nothing majors.” (19:52)

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5. Renaissance of a Boss: The Writing Process & Book Insights (20:01 – 25:24)

• Rick Ross introduces his latest book, “Renaissance of a Boss,” and brings up co-author Neil Beckham.
• Neil Beckham recounts the unique process of working with Ross, highlighting the difference between crafting narrative from stories already told versus “making a story in real time."

  “By the third book, I'm like, what else do we have left to talk about? And that's when it kind of becomes like ... we're making a story in real time. We didn't even know how it was going to end. It's all unfolding in real time." (23:31)

• Ross frames his books as different stages: personal intro, entrepreneurial journey, and now sustaining hunger 20 summers in.

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6. The Rick Ross x Drake Beef—Finally Addressed (32:39 – 36:19)

Key Segment:

• (32:39 – 36:19) The Conversation on the Drake Beef

  • Fat Joe: “I didn't understand the Drake, Rick Ross beef... what made you say, yo, fuck that, I'm not rocking with him no more?” (32:39)

  • Rick Ross:

    "Rose was mentioned. That's how it happened. You just mentioned homie. Yeah, yeah. It ain't even defending. You understand, homie mentioned Ricky Rozay and Rozay do what he do best. I go bad. I've been doing that a long time... I've always enjoyed giving a nigga a spanking..." (33:32–34:00)

  • Ross makes clear it was simply a reaction to being mentioned—no over-thinking, just responding as he always does.

  • On their earlier relationship: “We always... we rock with, homie. At that time, Cash Money was in Miami. It was a positive thing we had going. And Khaled was the glue." (35:03)

  • Memorable Moment: Ross jokes about giving Drake “what you asked for”—turning the beef into public entertainment.

    “Drizzy, you know. Nigga, know you had the tummy tuck, the nose reduction, all that. That shit. No, I'm giving you what you asked for.” (36:07)

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7. Generational Wealth, Real Estate, and the Art of the Big Purchase (37:13 – 43:35)

• Buying vs. Selling:

  • Ross proudly notes he has not sold his stake in Bel Air; it’s about long-term legacy, not cashing out (36:47–37:13).

• Size Matters:

  • Extended breakdown of “mansion anxiety”, motivation to build bigger, and seeing neighboring billionaire Ken Griffin as aspirational competition.
  • Joe: “The house already big. What are we gonna ride, scooters in the house and slap five?” (38:29)
  • Ross: “Buy the crib. I bought my crib for 37 million. I put 25 more into it before it was done. I had two offers off the rip for 100 million... My Crib would be worth, I'm sure, easily 350, 400 million in two or three years for no reason. It's called comp.” (39:43)

• Advice: Don’t hesitate; keep investing—especially in Miami real estate.

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8. Loyalty, Defectors, and Realness in Hip-Hop (59:15 – 63:22)

• Jokes about “smacking whack rappers”—namedrops and banter about 50 Cent (59:15–61:05).

• Joe and Ross dissect the phenomenon of "defectors"—artists or associates who fall out or switch sides.

• Key insight:

  “You gotta realize different n****s go through different things and everything gonna present itself at, you know, at the right time. I can’t go no further than that.” (60:39)

• Can’t please everyone—some people will always say you worked them too hard, even if it’s at a mansion or on your private jet.

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9. New Music: Set In Stone Album & More (43:43 – 44:53; 80:38)

• Announced: Set In Stone drops June 12th, 2026. Pre-order is live (43:44, 80:38).
• Ross previews tour plans—20th anniversary tour with an orchestra, launching in Miami (51:13).
• Discussion of best verses, music collaborations, and Ross’s unparalleled beat selection:
  • “Your beat selection is out of this... You never picked a bad beat ever, Ever.” (51:13)
  • “The Devil in the New Dress”—highlighted as a legendary verse. (49:08)

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10. Inspiration, Therapy & Loss: Personal Reflections (78:24 – 79:55)

• Fat Joe shares vulnerability about losing his sister, Big Pun, and grandfather in the same week and how therapy helped him reinvent himself out of depression.
  • “She like. She'll talk to you till you figure it out yourself. And you over the depression shit... So that's important. Like, yesterday was my first Mom's Day without my mom's. That was hard.” (78:24–79:55)

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11. Closing Notes: Legacy, Success, and Giving Flowers (64:04 – 80:58)

• Celebrations of resilience, success, and sharing inspiration among friends.
• Ross: “I’m inspired by success. I see from other homies from different places. That’s just the genuine way of moving... If you hustling, you hustling. That’s where you from. That’s your race, that’s your creed, that’s your color, you understand?” (69:14)
• Reiterated focus on feeding the fire, creativity, and keeping competition healthy and fun.
• The episode closes with reminders to preorder the album and book, and a round of heartfelt mutual appreciation.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote / Moment | |-----------|----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:38 | Joe | “You caught, like a seizure on the plane or some shit like that?” | | 09:56 | Rick Ross| “Niggas gotta paint that picture to build that bridge to the destination…” | | 11:26 | Rick Ross| “When I’m walking through somewhere, that’s 30 businesses walking through…” | | 23:31 | Neil | “We’re making a story in real time… It’s all unfolding in real time.” | | 33:32 | Rick Ross| “Rose was mentioned. That’s how it happened… Rozay do what he do best. I go bad.”| | 36:07 | Rick Ross| “Drizzy, you know… Nigga, know you had the tummy tuck, the nose reduction…” | | 39:43 | Rick Ross| “I bought my crib for 37 million. I put 25 more into it before it was done… My Crib would be worth… 400 million in two or three years.”| | 51:13 | Jada | “Your beat selection is out of this… you never picked a bad beat ever, Ever.” | | 69:14 | Rick Ross| “I’m inspired by success I see from other homies from different places…” | | 78:24 | Joe | “I went through depression, you know, I lost my sister, my best friend, Big Pond, and my grandfather, like, the same week or two…” |

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Final Takeaways

• On Drake beef: It started from a direct mention—no grand conspiracy—and Ross framed the escalation as a natural reaction.
• On success: Ross and the hosts champion relentless work ethic, strategic investment (especially in real estate), and turning even setbacks (like medical emergencies) into new hustle opportunities.
• On loyalty: The crew reflects on authenticity, the pain of defection in hip-hop, and why being both real and resilient pays off.
• On legacy: Between his new book and upcoming album, Ross shows no signs of slowing—insisting on motivating himself and his circle to think and act bigger.
• Personal growth: The entire conversation is shot through with humor, honesty, and wisdom, from tales of wild nights and business moves to deep moments on loss and healing.

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Listen For

• Inside perspective on hip-hop beefs and why they matter
• Entrepreneurial gems about building, buying, and holding wealth
• The unique way Rick Ross and Neil Beckham write books “in real time”
• The philosophy of staying motivated after 20 summers in the game
• Candid, hilarious banter only legends can share

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[Episode ends with mutual respect, laughter, and a toast to continued success.]

Transcript

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[Joe Crack]

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[Joe Crack]

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[Rick Ross]

Homie mentioned Ricky Rosay, and Rosay do what he do best. I go bad. I've been doing that a long time.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rick Ross]

I've always enjoyed giving a nigga a spanking. If you don't understand what's happening.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, yeah. What up, y'? All? Joe Crack the Dawn.

[Jada]

You know who it is. Your boy Jada. It's the Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. We just Doing what we do, you know what I mean? It's a special edition today. Today's guest, he's a friend of ours, you know what I mean? Don't let that go over your head. When you think of today's guest, you think boss, you think empire,

[Joe Crack]

you think

[Jada]

Maybach music, you think mogul, you think mentor, you think visionary. You think of bars, you think of career, you think author, you think hell of a father. Because they always try to discredit the black man. Did I say Arthur?

[Joe Crack]

Serial entrepreneur.

[Jada]

Think somebody who shifted the culture.

[Joe Crack]

Serial entrepreneur.

[Jada]

I'm still going serial entrepreneur. Entrepreneur. Because my man has a speech impediment.

[Joe Crack]

Hustler.

[Jada]

Big. Hell of a. Hell of a real estate portfolio, you know what I mean? Learn about what I'm telling you. Real estate portfolio, you think? Downright. One of the most hustling hustlers of this era. One of the biggest brands, one of the biggest car show pool parties that people die for. Ladies and gentlemen, Rose in the building. Give it up.

[Rick Ross]

Much love, family. Much love, family.

[Joe Crack]

Mashallah. Mashallah.

[Rick Ross]

Thank my brothers for having me here, man.

[Joe Crack]

We family.

[Jada]

Definitely believe that.

[Joe Crack]

So sometimes it's hard interviewing family because it's so much to talk about. You know, we got a line through DJ Khaled. DJ Khaled put me on the Miami. I was living in Miami. I've been living in Miami for 20 something years. And I used to see you in the clubs all the time.

[Rick Ross]

All the time.

[Jada]

And then the White Seven.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, you see him in the.

[Jada]

I seen Rick Ross maybe pop this before. He had 88 cars.

[Joe Crack]

I used to see him all. Every, every, pretty much every night. We would go out in the clubs. I see Ross. And then one day, you know, that hustling came out, and that shit was like, rest in peace to Shakur.

[Rick Ross]

Better believe it.

[Joe Crack]

Pretty much. DJ Khaled, he did the Fat Joe on the Rick Ross, like. Cause he would play Fat Joe 1000 times, and then he start playing that 2000, 2000. They hair. That's all you fucking heard. And the rest is just so many layers to you. And I want to salute you for inspiring me. Meaning, yeah, I came out before you. But when it comes to the hustle game, like, I've seen you risk your life hustling for the bag. Like, I literally, like, is it true or not? You caught, like a seizure on the plane or some shit like that?

[Rick Ross]

Big time. Rosa, have a seizure and wake up and just ask, where the smoke at? I need the weed. That's all I need.

[Jada]

That's my nigga.

[Rick Ross]

And make sure there ain't no ambulance. Tall motherfucker standing over me. That's the only problem there is.

[Joe Crack]

You know, they got.

[Rick Ross]

Clear the room out. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Crack]

They got the UFOs out now. I'm thinking the Yamba part. UFO. That nigga Wimby. Yamba boy. They got the UFOs out there. You see that, James? The UFOs is real. But anyway, that's a whole nother shit.

[Jada]

Alien or UFO or both. Because you know. You calling WIMBY a ufo?

[Joe Crack]

No, no, no.

[Jada]

They're gonna put that everywhere.

[Joe Crack]

DNA alien. I think I'm DNA alien, too. Now that the truth came out, I might have, like, 2% if I do. Insistory.com might be 2% alien. I'm keeping it. I'm too incredible at what I do. Like this shit. We never lose. Like, I gotta be part.

[Rick Ross]

You might be, because I saw your name on that list. For the rich nigga pill to live 60 more years, too.

[Joe Crack]

I'm trying to hang with them niggas. Trying to live. They say they got my name on the list.

[Book Author/Interviewer]

Like that.

[Rick Ross]

On the list.

[Joe Crack]

Like he's trying to live 60 more.

[Rick Ross]

You gonna get the pill to live 60 more years?

[Joe Crack]

I'm gonna do it. I swear to God. I want him on. Yo, I want to live.

[Rick Ross]

You got to be on that list, though. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Crack]

No, I want it.

[Rick Ross]

No, you want it. You want it. You want it.

[Joe Crack]

You know.

[Jada]

You know the trick with the list, right?

[Rick Ross]

What?

[Jada]

You got to get your family on there. Who else?

[Daniel Cormier]

Who you gonna be?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta. Or give them a little piece of the pill.

[Joe Crack]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

You gotta get a couple of them.

[Joe Crack]

Ross comes home, he asked something. He was in the hospital, very serious. And for some reason, his first destination. The whole world's. Yo, how's Ross? He comes to the studio, and it's me, Dre, and him. And he starts playing music. And Ross goes. So, you know, they call me the greatest storyteller. I don't know if you've been seeing what's going on out here, you know, I love it. Killing these niggas.

[Rick Ross]

I love it.

[Joe Crack]

Legendary.

[Rick Ross]

Don't stop niggas is over there.

[Joe Crack]

Like the mother podcasters. They like wodcasters or something.

[Jada]

Came with a new word, Beyonce.

[Joe Crack]

Them just wodcasters over there with the Tourette's, right? Cause we throw these over here. So Ross come up and he go, fentanyl. We Looking at like the. Just came out of the hospital two hours ago. Fentanyl, it's the pure substance, comes from the hill. Sitting low, the very touch can get. I'm like, yo, this stuff telling the f. Soonest he finished, I start going samples, samples, samples. So I started telling the story how we used to throw the samples out to the fiend of the dope. And I said, damn. And Dre said, yo, y' all gonna try to out story each other in this story

[Jada]

straight.

[Rick Ross]

Niggas gotta. Man, paint that picture, man. Niggas gotta paint that picture to build that bridge to the destination at all times. Even if a nigga land up in the hospital and can't speak, got the tube down his throat, the mind and the brain won't stop the ambition won't stop that. Won't stop till a nigga heart freeze.

[Joe Crack]

And I respect that a lot about you, man, that you're hustlers. Hustlers. They don't got guys like you no more. They don't make them. You know, guys, they work like that. They got that work ethic like that. Every time I think I'm working too much, I'm like, yo, Rick Ross would have took that bag. He went out there and got nah real shit. Brown bag legends. I be like, yo, that brown bag legends. That nigga over there, that nigga in Dubai, he in the Prince house. The next day, he in Chattanooga at a barn. He take every. What is the. Could you tell us? I know it's like, probably like a secret hustle. What is like, you know, like, me, if I get money on a certain level, I don't never take from down. I be like, yo, this is my number. This. I see you. You can't get what you getting in Dubai and the Prince, you know, the grand opening of Carbone, what you're getting in Memphis at A block.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, no. The numbers. No, the numbers that, you know. Let's say if we go to Dubai, the numbers they give us to go over there is astounding. Then they'll give you another 50,000 to eat some camel meat. You know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

And then when you come home, if I'm just chilling on a Tuesday, you could put me a little brown bag together. Rosay slide through. Because you got to remember, I'm not just thinking about Rosay. I'm thinking about the 30 partnerships I got. So when I'm walking through somewhere, that's 30 businesses walking through with me. My other 30 partners see us, we stand in a penthouse that's 75,000 a night in Dubai. Then we'll go to a barn in Augusta.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, I watched talk to these niggas. The fucking plane broke down. You jumped on another one and went to the fucking. Your plane caught a flat or some shit. You jump on another plane. To the shot, I said, this motherfucker, man. We ain't turning down about.

[Rick Ross]

We flew in, we landed. It had been raining. So when the plane landed, hit the Runway, made a right, the wheel went into the mud. And you gotta stop right then. Because if that wheel go into the. And if it go. If you take off and it fold up, you could fuck yourself up. So you gotta treat it like it's a major emergency. It was mud, so I jumped on another jet. We couldn't miss the munion.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, that boy.

[Rick Ross]

We couldn't miss.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, that boy, that boy. Man, you know, you get some people, they get certain amount of money, they just stop or they want to stop. Are they going hiatus or they going to like. Like when you a hustler, too, you know? I'm not saying you jumping the private flat, jumping on another one. This, this, you know, Rick Ross. Rick Ross is a different type of animal. But Kiss, you hustle like a motherfucker, too. Your kids and your family don't want for nothing. You get them everything they want. You out there busting your ass too crazy. You know what I'm saying? But this guy, Rick Ross, what happened? That's a pause. No, no, no.

[Jada]

I ain't say anything, my brother.

[Rick Ross]

I never. I never used that word. Paul, let me know. Kiss. When I could say it's got anybody, let me know.

[Joe Crack]

No, no, this is the guy right here. He'll show you Paul, in every language, okay?

[Rick Ross]

If anything.

[Jada]

And you got flags right there where the flag, the left side, you got some flags.

[Joe Crack]

If you.

[Jada]

Somebody say your vernacular, you know?

[Rick Ross]

No, I'm just saying, even if it wasn't, you know, I wasn't expecting to come from me, but if any. You know what I mean? Just let me know if this.

[Jada]

When it's time. When I hit you, one of these, I got you.

[Joe Crack]

You already know when it's a real moment. You need a real bottle. That's why we rock with 1800 tequila. These people been making tequila for 11 generations. That's a legacy. That's the OG status. They were the first to introduce Anejo. Set the standard before most of these brands even existed.

[Jada]

And you could taste the difference for real. The 1800 Cristilino and Resposado is what we've been on lately. Smooth, clean, elevated, no rough edges. Just a premium pour that speaks for itself. You know, when something is just built right? That's what this is.

[Rick Ross]

Real talk.

[Joe Crack]

That's just what it is. It's always around for the best nights. The wins, the celebrations. Then remember that night stories.

[Jada]

Whether you're keeping it low key with the crew or you pull up to something big. 1800 fits every segment. It ain't trying too hard. It's just his death. 1800 tequila. Real legacy.

[Joe Crack]

Real smooth.

[Jada]

That's the move. I mean, your boss.

[Joe Crack]

I've been trying to get my lines up here like your. Is. You born with that Billy Dee Williams up there like your. You don't know. When you get a bid, you want your shit. Yeah, yeah, you freak raw. I be like, yo, what's up? You know, I don't want the DJ Holland, you know, my driver came. My driver came. Damn. I'm like, nah, I'm bugging out with this story. I gotta hit him. Nah, one of my drivers came. The nigga had. You know, his beard is, like, small, but he had the fucking.

[Rick Ross]

The theory.

[Joe Crack]

Rewinded the theory all the way up here, right?

[Rick Ross]

He went to the.

[Joe Crack]

But he had no hair here.

[Jada]

So I kill him. What about the guy at the game?

[Joe Crack]

Oh, no. That nigga out of control. Yo, listen, let me tell you something. Yo got. Got killed by the fault. First of all, you want to go there. This ros.

[Jada]

Leave the driver.

[Joe Crack]

We go against the film.

[Jada]

Somebody came at us. Painted elbow fade.

[Joe Crack]

I don't watch football.

[Jada]

This was crazy.

[Joe Crack]

I don't watch football. CeCe Sabathia, New York Knick legend, Hall of Famer.

[Jada]

And Sean Peck, pitcher for the Yankees.

[Joe Crack]

Legend.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack]

Oh, no, no, no. Cece's a bit. I'm telling you a different story. Cece Sabathia goes to watch the football. The Giants against these niggas. They chased him and beckons to the sprinter, the fan. They were gonna him up. Yo, give him a break. If I see Dominique Wilcoms and Dr. J, I ain't gonna front on them. No, Cece. And they chased his ass out the stadium. We understood that. Cause I got the. I got the Philly. I opened my door. Niggas like, word. The mother. Fat Joe, suck my dick.

[Jada]

Your next.

[Joe Crack]

I said, holy. Go on, intro like. This was the first bit of turbo, I swear to God. Ain't never tell me that in my life. I see Yo Joe Sports. I go to the door. They won't let me in no intersection, though. Nah, another door. This, this, this. I get down there. I started arguing with the white guy. Who's the nice guy? The white guy who tells you, sir, what's your ticket? You know, they're usually nice, yo, sit down. Don't cheer like, yo, Philly on some shit. When it comes to the sports. Legendary, right? Cause I never been. I never had a problem in Philly my whole career, my second biggest market. So I go like, yeah, the nigga pull up. He talking about he had this shit. Nah, that wasn't rewind. That was like Beijing or something. He had. Somebody gotta tell him, like, if your man listen. You know, we see that shit every now and then on Instagram. We caught one in physical view. Real life.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack]

And we're arguing. We're arguing. They had two OGs in front of us. Look like real dudes. They was sitting right there, you know, and they was like, yo, Joe, y' all about to go. And we going back and forth. But I fuck him up. He don't even know the nigga in front of him with the shit. I said, yo, but your man's like, look at your man. Like, this is who you riding with? Another Phillies fan that. I said, look at your man. Your man name got tight. Them got up the way. I kept. He wasn't even with them. I was like, yo, but your man. Yo, this. The Philly fan broke that.

[Jada]

He was trying to avoiding his family. He kept moving down to get so his won't melt.

[Joe Crack]

He's embarrassing his family. No, the. We not even. Yeah, we can't. We not even exaggerating. This was straight. What's this?

[Rick Ross]

Spray paint?

[Joe Crack]

Yes.

[Jada]

Oh, Rich got it.

[Joe Crack]

Oh, you got it on tape. But we put it on the clip. But I kept with the dude. Cause the dudes are og. Look like a hustler. Real niggas, two dudes. They had nice seats. So he tried to start with me. I said, yo, but your man's. Though. And he kept. He don't even know the nigga.

[Jada]

I just kept saying it made them leave. They all left.

[Joe Crack]

Yo, look, niggas got up, embarrassed the city. Like, yo, we out of here. Yo, he's embarrassed. Yo. This is what.

[Rick Ross]

That's what it was.

[Joe Crack]

This is what you rapping embarrassed the city. He got up, yo, that don't like me no more. The og, he probably was like, yo, fact Joe, yo, nah, the whole Philly don't like us like us no more.

[Jada]

Fresh off that verses. How was it? Because how's it. Where was y' all at in The Apple studio.

[Rick Ross]

Apple studio.

[Jada]

I wasn't energy. Looked like it was. It was nice energy in the building.

[Rick Ross]

No fresh.

[Joe Crack]

My.

[Rick Ross]

My brother. That's my dog, you know what I'm saying? So we just went up there and shined together.

[Jada]

No doubt. That's what it's supposed to be.

[Rick Ross]

Go to the bag, shine together. Yeah, go show them your sneakers and your jewels, nigga. That's it. Nothing majors, you know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

That's it.

[Rick Ross]

Shit. Too easy, you know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

Now you got the renaissance of a boss. You how many bestsellers? What's this, number two?

[Joe Crack]

Three, man.

[Rick Ross]

This. This is actually my third release. I got the young legend Neil Beckham in here. The one that actually do the. Put the pen down when we just having the discussions. Neil, come over here and join us.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, but now make some noise for Neil.

[Jada]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rick Ross]

You already know my brother. Appreciate you.

[Jada]

Welcome to the couch, my brother.

[Rick Ross]

You know what I mean? But this is the third release right here, the first two bestsellers. And this one right here is just. Most definitely just me in a free spirit zone.

[Jada]

No doubt. Now, Neil, tell us what it's like sitting down with boss. And then, you know what I mean, he's kicking it. And you gotta put that into visualization and also into some good God words

[Joe Crack]

for people to read.

[Jada]

You know, A lot of these rappers can't read.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, that's fucked up.

[Book Author/Interviewer]

So Ross was a whole different beast, right? Cause my first book was the Gucci man book, and he was locked up the whole time.

[Joe Crack]

It was a great book. Thank you.

[Book Author/Interviewer]

Thank you very generously. And so, you know, that was done a lot of times over the phone. And you get 10 minutes or where he's in the feds, he. So the phone time, it was super limited increments, so. But on the plus side, that made it really productive because when we talked, he only had this time. Then I get with Ross. And I could be living with Ross for six months, following him around, and he won't say one.

[Joe Crack]

One word to me.

[Book Author/Interviewer]

One word to me.

[Rick Ross]

No, that was only for one reason. I told you what it was. Thought you was.

[Book Author/Interviewer]

Let him know.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, he got a chance. I thought he was a lot of things. You fit so many when you came.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, no. You gotta realize when you sign a deal and you get a big check and there's somebody new come around and they sitting there and N digg, I

[Joe Crack]

said, yo, I used to think when I met her, she was too beautiful for me. I said, damn, they setting me up.

[Rick Ross]

That's true.

[Joe Crack]

They gave me a Colombian B out of my. Yeah, about a good 12 years till I noticed the statute of limitations. He did enough crimes with me. I said, all right, Fucking yeah.

[Jada]

The feds.

[Joe Crack]

No more. I thought she was the feds. Yeah, but so how do you put it in his words?

[Book Author/Interviewer]

So look, so this particular book, right, was different from the first two and very different from any book that I've done before, right? Like the. What I'm used to is trying to figure out a story that's already happened, right? Joe, tell me about your life. Jada, tell me about your life. And I'm getting a story that's already happened. By the third book, I'm like, what else do we have left to talk about? And that's when it kind of becomes like, oh, I'm not figuring out what the story is. And then we're putting in your words and putting it out there. We're making a story in real time, right? We already talked about in the first two books, everything that already happened we got to make. And that's why this one was so exciting, because we didn't even know how it was going to end. It's all unfolding in real time, right? The book starts with him getting a book deal, and it's like, what the fuck are we going to write about? And it's just really. Just about that process, right? And with Ross, like I said, Ross and I have never one time sat down across from each other, put a recorder on the table, and I asked him a series of questions, and he gives me answers. That's not how this guy operates. So I just got to be around and absorb it all. I got to be around, absorb, watch, and listen to stories, and then afterwards put it together. We put it together, we talk about it, we change it. But it's with him, it's so different. I've never interviewed you. You know what I mean? I've never said, asked a series of questions. I've just been around and taken it all in.

[Joe Crack]

It's therapy. He taught you some therapy.

[Jada]

Renaissance of a boss man.

[Rick Ross]

Renaissance.

[Jada]

I'll tell you what it read like for you rappers that can't read, and

[Rick Ross]

for the rappers that can't read, that's fucked up. We gotta. You know, reading is fundamental. But for Rose, my first book to me was about me introducing myself not just as an artist, but on the personal side of who I was. For anybody that didn't know me, the second book was me coming from a entrepreneurial standpoint me having X amount of partnerships, me investing this, me this many franchises, this many, this, this many that. This one was more like, Yo, I'm 20 summers in the game. How do I continue feeding that fire and allowing it to burn? Not just where I'll be recording music, but actually giving the streets something I feel they need, you know what I'm saying? So that's what this book about, you know what I'm saying? Still waking up every day and still feed that fire and doing it in a major way. And not just winning, but winning bigger than, you know, you could ever really put on the table and expect.

[Joe Crack]

Are you also brother. Thank you, brother.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, of course.

[Book Author/Interviewer]

Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you, brother.

[Joe Crack]

Yo, Ross, man, I'm looking at your beard. It's so flawless. You got this. Gotta shave his ears, man. You gotta put him on.

[Jada]

Yo, yo, yo.

[Joe Crack]

I'm just keeping it a with you.

[Rick Ross]

Which one?

[Joe Crack]

Which one?

[Rick Ross]

I a know I missed the flag.

[Joe Crack]

It would look alike.

[Jada]

Said he gotta tell him shave his

[Joe Crack]

ears, that they

[Rick Ross]

the mustache he had. The last time I seen him, it scared me.

[Joe Crack]

And I told him, I asked him

[Rick Ross]

on personal level, let it grow all out. And he did it for me.

[Jada]

My brother's mustache out in his ears.

[Rick Ross]

No, that mustache look like you be on Forensic Files episode.

[Joe Crack]

You see what I'm saying? We got a mustache. He ain't here today, but we got a guy that mustaches.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, we got a.

[Jada]

We got a mustache.

[Rick Ross]

No, you gotta watch them that got that. No, you gotta watch.

[Joe Crack]

Watch them all the time.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, no, no, you got to watch him.

[Joe Crack]

Yo. I don't trust that guy. I tell you that all the time. I'm looking at him.

[Jada]

You know, the raw mustache is scarier than a po.

[Joe Crack]

Oh, my God, that ass Raleigh fingers, yo.

[Rick Ross]

Ah.

[Joe Crack]

Yo, Freddy, what's up?

[Rick Ross]

Freddy in the building.

[Joe Crack]

Freddy pulled up. You want to talk about my nigga Freddie right there? You know, your man one time tried me. What's my man? Exclusive game. See, you don't remember that, huh?

[Rick Ross]

He tried. He hit.

[Joe Crack]

I know him. He don't know. That's nothing. We pay. We pay.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, we do.

[Joe Crack]

But one time he told me I was jacking his style. I don't know if he remembers that. I was at a fashion show with him. He said, yo, you've been jacking my style with the. I said, wait a minute. I had to pull up a rap 20 years old and show them with the goyard shit. All leather from head to. I said, bro, there's no way like I've been doing this for 20 years. That was 15 years ago conversation I'm having with you. I said, yo, this was 20 years ago, my nigga. I had the Goyard. I turned the Goyard bags into fucking the whole outfit. I mean, you gotta be kidding me. He thought I was jacking his shit. He said, yo, man, you know I've been watching you. You've been jacking my shit lately. I said, papi, you got this shit fucked up. I've been doing this shit 88. But your man, he good guy, man.

[Rick Ross]

Great guy. Great guy.

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[Joe Crack]

Yo, Ross, let me ask you something, right? Because one thing I never understood. I don't talk to you every day. You know, you never done nothing wrong to me in your life. You know, in fact, I don't even. I don't know how I could actually say that. In reality, they say I cap or whatever they want. But you never did nothing wrong to me in my life. Like, nothing. You never been a funny style nigga. You never changed on me. You never nothing. You always been the same guy all the time. It just when I was taken with. I didn't understand the Drake, Rick Ross beef, right? Being y' all have such a catalog together. Y' all been together since day one making hits together, this and that. Can you explain to me the origins of Rick Ross and Drake falling out? Like, what made you say, yo, fuck that, I'm not rocking with him no more?

[Rick Ross]

Rose was mentioned.

[Joe Crack]

I was mentioned or you was mentioned first?

[Rick Ross]

Facts. Facts.

[Joe Crack]

Oh, so that's how it happens.

[Rick Ross]

That's how it happened. You just mentioned homie. Yeah, yeah. It ain't even defending. You understand this homie mentioned Ricky Rose and Rose do what he do best. I go bad. I've been doing that a long time. Yeah.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

I've always enjoyed giving a nigga a spanking. If you don't understand what's happening, it ain't that Rose was mentioned.

[Joe Crack]

Damn. Why would he mention. Like. I didn't know. I never understood that whole. Like, I was.

[Rick Ross]

That's one thing. This show on fire. When you get Little man right here, you ask him, what made you mention Rozay, homie. That's it. It's that simple.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah. Just like I asked you, because I was confused.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, that's what it is.

[Joe Crack]

What happened.

[Rick Ross]

And that's what. And that's what. And that's what real. And that's what real ones do. You address.

[Joe Crack]

And it's really too easy. I ain't it. Because I always thought. I always thought he with us. I never even recorded a song with him or nothing. I always thought, yo, nah, yo, Russ, yo, Russ, yo, no, no, stop. I swear to God, I always thought

[Rick Ross]

he was with us.

[Joe Crack]

I thought he was with us. Like, I'm like, you know, no, we rock.

[Rick Ross]

No, you gotta understand, we always, you know, we rock with, homie. At that time, Cash Money was in Miami. It was a positive thing we had going. And Khaled was the glue, you know what I mean? At that time, when I was doing records, like Aston Martin music, that was Rose saying, yo, Chrisette Michelle gonna do this half of the hook, and I'm gonna get. You know. At that time, I got John Legend, the biggest R and B motherfucker in the game, at that time on speed dial. You understand? Yo, I'm gonna put John Legend on this one, too. That's Khaled in the background.

[Joe Crack]

Yo, so little dude, his name is Drake.

[Rick Ross]

Let him do it, you know. And cool. This John Legend at the time, yo, we do it. And it was just a genuine vibe when it went left. Hey, man, that's for them to figure out. I ain't figuring that out. You know what I mean? And it's really small talk to me. Once you mention Rose name, I'mma enjoy it. I'mma enjoy. Coming up. That's just me by the pool.

[Joe Crack]

Bbl.

[Rick Ross]

Drizzy, you know. You know, Nigga, know you had the tummy tuck, the nose reduction, all that. That shit. No, I'm giving you what you asked for.

[Joe Crack]

No, I'm giving you what you asked for. Let you down. Throw the flag. I can't do that. No, I won't.

[Rick Ross]

I didn't want it. No, I won't let you down.

[Joe Crack]

Cause somebody pulled me some new Bel

[Rick Ross]

Air, I'mma give my brother what he needed.

[Joe Crack]

Let me ask you another question.

[Rick Ross]

Too easy.

[Joe Crack]

Bel Air, right?

[Rick Ross]

Too easy.

[Joe Crack]

I know you a partner in Bel Air. Did you sell some of Bel Air, like some of the equity or something in the Bel Air?

[Rick Ross]

Of course not.

[Joe Crack]

So you never. You still own the same. Y' all never sold at all?

[Rick Ross]

No. Man, shout out to my big homie, Brett Barish, man.

[Joe Crack]

So you're not, like, building a brand and then you sell it and then you. So that never happened.

[Jada]

Not yet.

[Rick Ross]

No. Once you. Once you tap out, you go somewhere. You go and create something and start building something new. You ain't gonna sell it and shit. Keep going.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, once it's sold, it's sold.

[Rick Ross]

You know what I'm saying? We still. We still Luke Belle.

[Joe Crack]

And I seen the new yacht. You was like, I know.

[Rick Ross]

It's hard to explain.

[Joe Crack]

Nah, it's hard. Yo, Ross, I get it.

[Rick Ross]

That's why I think. That's why I think the writers might be the fans or something. I get it.

[Joe Crack]

I got. I'M a little stage fright. I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, I got, you know, I live in a, you know, I got a couple of properties. Let's be clear. I live in a big house. The wife want a bigger one, right? And I'm getting a little for no reason. Yeah. I'm getting a little stage fright.

[Rick Ross]

Get it?

[Joe Crack]

Because get it. It's so big and it's only two people. I'm like, yo, do we really need some shit? Of course you do.

[Rick Ross]

Of course you do.

[Joe Crack]

Who talks? Yvette, you don't talk.

[Rick Ross]

You keep getting bigger and bigger. Go more and more. Yeah, that's the motivation.

[Joe Crack]

Don't do that. Don't do that. When your wife see this show, she come.

[Rick Ross]

No, that's what I'm trying to tell you.

[Joe Crack]

Bigger.

[Jada]

Yeah, I gotta go bigger.

[Rick Ross]

Go bigger. Go bigger.

[Joe Crack]

Go bigger, huh?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah. That's gonna motivate you that much more. That's what it do for me.

[Joe Crack]

The house already big. What are we gonna ride scooters in the house and slap five? You could this too big.

[Rick Ross]

Why not just go walk around the neighborhood?

[Joe Crack]

You never get stage fight.

[Rick Ross]

Never.

[Joe Crack]

Remember I was shocked when Cali bought that big ass house. I said, yo, Khaled, man, are you sure?

[Rick Ross]

Never.

[Joe Crack]

He was like, yo, and I. And Khaled's one guy I worry about, which I, I, I know not to worry about, but he's one guy. Check up your Khaled, you own. Cause I sit there, this nigga spending so much money. I'm like, yo, how do you do? Like, I know, you know, we're, we all get money, but at least I think of my limitations, right?

[Rick Ross]

Like, so I'm like, yo, there is no limitations. There is none. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Crack]

Buy the watch rich by the watch today.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, buy the house rich by the house. Yeah, buy the house rich. I bought my crib.

[Joe Crack]

I'm gonna buy that house. Cause of Ross. And I'm gonna put Ross's name in the house in one of these fucking boys.

[Rick Ross]

I mean, leave it.

[Joe Crack]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. Hey, this you fighting the power.

[Rick Ross]

No, buy the crib. I bought my crib for 37 million. I put 25 more into it before it was done. I had two offers off the rip for 100 million. Just stop what you doing. But my neighbor right across the street is spending 1.5 billion on his crib. His name is Ken Griffin. He bought eight lot 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14. Knocking everything down. It's a great investment. So my Crib would be worth, I'm sure, easily 350, 400 million in two or three years for no reason. It's called comp.

[Joe Crack]

I've been trying to fight the power.

[Rick Ross]

Do it.

[Joe Crack]

Do it. You know, I meant to throw in the bag. I tell her them all day. I don't give a.

[Rick Ross]

That ain't blowing the bag, though. You ain't blowing the bag up. Nah. Blowing it back is something totally different. That's when you the money up, when you billing, when you getting into real estate. In Miami is the hottest place in the world. Yeah, they could build them cars. They can't build that corner no more.

[Joe Crack]

They gotta buy that corner. They got by that lot right now. They got a house. She try to make me buy that shit. He got a hundred bodies. He serve a hundred life. That shit make me feel like, damn, I'm gonna have to go back to Africa, China, every Egypt. Right now. I'm good, right on my crib. I got money in the bank. I'm so good. And that shit gonna put me back on that. Yo, Fat Joe, Hustler of the Year. Yo, could we do George Ada not. And again. Antarctica. Doing this show for some Eskimos. Cause he got.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, go get it. Go get it.

[Joe Crack]

That.

[Rick Ross]

Go get it.

[Joe Crack]

That right there.

[Rick Ross]

Go get it, man.

[Joe Crack]

All right.

[Rick Ross]

I'm telling you. Go get it. Ricky Rose gonna tell you, you know all that.

[Joe Crack]

Uncle Dan be like, yo, my fingers feel like I need.

[Rick Ross]

I ain't gonna tell you nothing more.

[Joe Crack]

Got me hype right now. And she got me hyped right now. My palms are itching. I said, yo, I gotta go for it. You know what I'm saying? Fuck it, right? Cause the way I look at this, I. When you pull up the Fat Joe crib, you wanna feel like. When I say. When you say, yo, Ross in town, yo, pull up to the crib. When you pull up, you be like, all right, this Fat Joe crib. Like, you supposed to open the gates, pull in shit a mile long, shit big.

[Rick Ross]

You know? I'm gonna tell you how I think, though. That don't define a nigga money. Now, that's just like me when I'm standing on the outside of the ocean. You could see some of the richest motherfuckers in the world pull up in a boat that short.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rick Ross]

So you know what I'm saying? I don't look at it like, who got the biggest boat, got the most paper? Cause it'd be a motherfucker like Ken Griffin. I'm Talking about worth 60B's going by just. And I'm like, damn, look at the homie right there. He just.

[Joe Crack]

He in the paddle, he in the canoe.

[Rick Ross]

Shit. Oh, man. Some small shit, little canoe like that. And this a motherfucker who own a 300 foot, you know, and multiple of them. So, you know, the mindset different. But I just believe in really invest in that shit. Rose gonna run it. I'm gonna run it. I'm gonna throw the dice.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, yeah, you definitely do. You definitely throw the dice. I seen you do shit. Your life is so amazing, Ross. Nah, I live vicarious through you. I see you. I said, man, if I was single, I'd be living like Rick Ross, man. I be looking at you. I said, man, I said, this be a fucking problem out here in these streets. The big boys would be tearing this shit up. I'm nice and home on that couch writing my graffiti, minding my business. I'm minding my business.

[Rick Ross]

I love it.

[Joe Crack]

So. So, Rose, what's new? You know the verses. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't like friends doing verses like that. Like, you know, I try to start with. With. With Ja Rule for no reason.

[Jada]

Like, they did it the right way. They didn't do it like I was

[Joe Crack]

threatening them and all that. I like, you know, I. What? I'm a sucker for a fight. You know what I'm saying? I already knew French and Ross. I knew what that was. Y' all got like seven songs, hits together, too. So I was like, all right, I know what that is. That's gonna be easy. Greet. When you went out there with Dipset, even though you get along with them, you went out there with the venom.

[Jada]

They started with, see, they fucked my guys.

[Joe Crack]

You heard Russ? They started with you guys.

[Jada]

My guys?

[Joe Crack]

Yeah. What did he say to get you like that? Cause you a easygoing guy. Why didn't get you.

[Jada]

Why you. Why are you doing this?

[Joe Crack]

I'm in the crowd. I don't know.

[Jada]

You heard everything that I heard. They told me we wasn't from. We wasn't home. It started like that. This ain't y' all backyard. Y' all ain't from here. This, that.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah.

[Jada]

Meanwhile, he's your neighbor. Coconut Grove.

[Joe Crack]

He's my neighbor in Coconut Crow. Shout out to the Miami. New York was so mad. Like, so mad.

[Jada]

I'm telling you, there's something to talk about. Not how much people wanted. Wish they could move there.

[Rick Ross]

That's what I was.

[Joe Crack]

It felt like.

[Rick Ross]

And you going back and forth this

[Joe Crack]

Guy here my whole life. He's the only rapper in New York City. I bumped into Lil Wayne at the supermarket. More in Miami than I bumped into. Bumped it. He's the only rapper I would bump into. He be going to the weed spots. He go to the Stick Ditch. Other than that, I've never seen the New York rapper in New York. I haven't. I'm sorry, guys. I don't know. Fat Joe is in every boat. New York rappers. No, no. I'm telling you, no.

[Rick Ross]

Sneaker spot,

[Joe Crack]

house. No, no. Ain't eating the rice down in the borough. I'm not saying ain't real. What I am saying is, when I drive down 125th, 145th, Brooklyn district.

[Rick Ross]

I'm gonna tell you, it's hard for me to believe that. Cause me growing up, when I turned on you on tv, rap. So all I heard when you.

[Joe Crack]

I'm not talking about the tv.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, no, no, no. Is on the corner.

[Joe Crack]

They coming to the party.

[Rick Ross]

No, not the party.

[Joe Crack]

I'm just bumping. Bumping into a New York rapper. It don't happen.

[Rick Ross]

That's crazy.

[Joe Crack]

And I'm outside every boat digger, every taxi driver, every. Anybody you name, Jamaican joint, Spanish joint, they know Fat Joe. I'm outside. When I go, I'm in Miami.

[Rick Ross]

Because when you in Miami, you there.

[Joe Crack]

When I say, hey, I'm in Miami. It was almost like a cemetery. Like a nigga died. Because he was the only one they see on the corner. He's the only one to get out and argue with niggas and talk shit. He the only one we see.

[Rick Ross]

They lost their presence.

[Joe Crack]

Yo, this nigga done left. What kind of shit is this? This nigga like I was you. It wasn't you. So you didn't catch the backlash. I was catching. So they was dumb type.

[Jada]

I never left.

[Joe Crack]

Now, now. You get the ultimate. You get the ultimate New York versus. And the first thing he say, it ain't the niggas that moved to Miami. I thought he was shooting me. I was in Hermes, in the crowd. I wasn't in New York.

[Jada]

I made my first album in Miami. I fucking love Miami.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, but you said.

[Jada]

But when in the Mecca of New York. And you telling me y' all ain't home. Y' all ain't from here, and you don't live here presently.

[Rick Ross]

That's what made you sad.

[Jada]

That was a spark. Yeah, that was a nice. That was a nice English spot.

[Joe Crack]

I go to restaurant in Miami. Rapper lives there.

[Rick Ross]

Based on that competitive spirit, this is a Competitive sport. So if it wasn't French, my brother, my little homie that we done, you know what I mean? Done spent the night in the studio together, you know what I mean? Just so long, it easily niggas could be talking slick.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, it would have been bad. I could picture Rose bad.

[Rick Ross]

It would have been too easy.

[Joe Crack]

Nah, nah. Rose the bad one, that one. But I go to Carbone and I bump into Nori. I bump into this one. I go to the gas, the. The car wash. I bump in the cam. All these niggas wanted me to die. Like, yo, he moved to Miami. This nigga's not the real one. Why he moved down there. All them niggas live down there now. Everywhere I go, New York rappers, New York rappers, New York rappers. Hey, everybody. I was just up on the ship way early.

[Rick Ross]

Niggas investing, though.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah. That's how I got.

[Jada]

What about new music?

[Rick Ross]

New music. They could pre order the album right now. Set in stone. Set in stone. Yeah, it's out June 12th.

[Jada]

June 12th, y'.

[Joe Crack]

All.

[Jada]

Set in stone.

[Joe Crack]

Rose, your best verse to you.

[Jada]

Your best verse kind of question to you.

[Joe Crack]

I got one. I got a rosette.

[Jada]

That's your best friend.

[Joe Crack]

No, no.

[Rick Ross]

What is it?

[Joe Crack]

I got a rose.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack]

What is my shit is the shit with you and Kanye that. What. What's that joint?

[Rick Ross]

The Devil in the New Dress. Yeah. That was a beautiful moment, without a doubt. And for a lot of people, that shit was an emotional, passionate vibe, you know what I mean? But it just. For me, it depends on the mood I'm in, You know what I mean? I done said some shit, man. I don't have fun doing it.

[Joe Crack]

But what is your.

[Jada]

Your.

[Joe Crack]

Your favorite verse?

[Rick Ross]

What do you think? Just coming off the top of the

[Joe Crack]

dome, they want to throw a flat a lot.

[Jada]

It's too many.

[Joe Crack]

Don't fucking flash.

[Jada]

He's not one of few, few.

[Joe Crack]

I got one. My joint got two whities. That's my favorite verse of my whole career. You gotta know what your favorite verse is. You don't have a favorite verse.

[Jada]

Discography. It's not verses. It's project. And I might, depending on how I'm feeling Rich Forever. It could be. It's all typeish.

[Joe Crack]

He got.

[Jada]

I got a section of just him and Raphael, Sadiq. He sound crazy. Ever made.

[Joe Crack]

One of my favorites is. I'm in Mini Mini Mini Honor.

[Jada]

Right here.

[Rick Ross]

But that's some of those. That's some of those rose B sides, man. And. And that's the thing. Sometimes those B sides mean More than the big records. Facts, facts. It could be tears of joy. One of those verses from Tears of Joy.

[Jada]

There we go.

[Rick Ross]

It's like I'm just tapping in, speaking to my mom and letting her know, you know what I'm saying? Thank you for supporting the boy.

[Jada]

1800.

[Joe Crack]

1800.

[Jada]

Keep it 1800 with her.

[Joe Crack]

You already know what it is.

[Jada]

1800 rose.

[Rick Ross]

The biggest.

[Joe Crack]

We doing deals, man.

[Rick Ross]

We doing. We gotta do it big at all times, man. We celebrating going out on tour, 20 year anniversary. I'm going out with the orchestra. We gonna do it big, you know what I mean? We setting it off in Miami, May 29th. Fly shit. Big boy, heavy boy.

[Jada]

Shit, I might gotta come down there. I gotta give you flowers that people always give you. But probably sometimes they for some reason might not. But your beat selection is out of this. It gotta be 1 or 1A. You never picked a bad beat ever, Ever. I'm talking about for freestyles, for throwaways, for your shit. I don't know how, I don't know what your process. I don't know what you tell them. Give me the special hard drive. Come live with me and make this. I don't know what the fuck you do, but this. He sent me a beat one time.

[Rick Ross]

Appreciate it, Appreciate it, my G. He

[Jada]

sent me a beat that'd be Justice League at the time, but the beat is so crazy. Look, he just sent me the beat they gave you. They'll crack. He just sent me the beat with nothing. Me calling back, bro. Yo, boss, what are we doing with this? This all he said we getting all your money, kids. And hung up. We get it turned into a beautiful, beautiful record.

[Joe Crack]

This thing is the beautiful video.

[Jada]

Just take all your money. And I got the verse off that by saying, this thing is the. Anybody I ever did a song with,

[Joe Crack]

this is the illest, let me tell you.

[Daniel Cormier]

Ever.

[Jada]

Soy money. My.

[Joe Crack]

Because you do it in your sleep and you pick great beats. I pick incredible beats too. So it's one of the things. I know some rappers that would have had a hundred times better career if they knew how to pick beats. The greatest guys in the world.

[Jada]

Not the easiest thing, another easy thing. And people take it for granted.

[Joe Crack]

The fucking greatest. And you know how many artists I

[Jada]

know how to pick the wrong person. If the right person pass you the wrong beat, you think is it? And that's a. That's like an epidemic, you know.

[Joe Crack]

This is very old school, what I'm saying.

[Jada]

The right person can pass you the wrong beat. You just think that's it because it's

[Joe Crack]

very old school what I'm gonna say.

[Jada]

But back, you meet a nigga at the gas station, pass you a hard drive, that fucking blowing shit. Am I right?

[Joe Crack]

Facts go ahead. I've been there where rappers invite me to their listening session, and I go there and they niggas is banging. Literally. Cause you know, New York, we was very exaggerated. Like, you remember back in the days when you talk about them MTV videos where n used to really dance and all that. So if a nigga on your dick, he running up the wall, banging his head, acting like this really incredible, like they doing too much. And I'm sitting there, they're like, yo, crack, what you think? The album really trashed, my nigga. I'm sitting in the studio, I'm sitting there like, yo, now why they call it real? This is my problem in life. Why you call it real? If you want the fake response, don't call it real when you want the fake response, I'm sitting in the studio, niggas just banging their head on the wall. This. I'm like, oh, my God, this shit trash in my head. Like, Jesus Christ, can it get any whacker?

[Jada]

You only wrong when you leave. And don't tell them that.

[Joe Crack]

Oh, no, I tell them, yo, you

[Jada]

know, then they don't like you no more.

[Joe Crack]

You ain't touched the last.

[Rick Ross]

Nah, they don't fuck with. Yeah, then they don't fuck with. It's called hate. That's what they.

[Jada]

When you tell them your honest opinion, then they you hate and they don't fuck with you.

[Joe Crack]

All I got for you is honest opinion. I hate it. This game done abused me to only give you honest opinions. Okay? You know that. All the way around, I see niggas, they, they, they get in. Yo, this guy here, he's beefing with all the rappers. I have nothing to do with it. I'm a born again Christian. How do Fat Joe know he gonna end up with the nigga? And I'm gonna be the nigga to smack his cheek off and tell that nigga get the fuck up at me. He picked on everybody. I know somewhere along the line, I'm gonna have to see this guy in hip hop. Okay, buddy, how you doing? Okay. You want your cheeks smacked off? The joke is over. Isolation time. Like, get the fuck out of here with this. But that's what I'm trying to tell you. You don't call it real. Don't call it real when you want the fake. Call me. A studio is doing the Benetton bag dance and banging off the wall. I'm like yo this man. Like yo wow. Why do you do this to me? Like why you bring me to this whack? Like

[Jada]

joe and jadashow.com we got new merch fresh off the presses. Go get it. Bang out of Bam Jo andjadinshow.com you can get these. Little cold for a T shirt. Where the hoodies at?

[Joe Crack]

It's my favorite right there. I need an extra large [e-mail] Go there. Get it.

[Rick Ross]

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[Joe Crack]

I see my co worker in light at the pharmacy. Can he tell I'm picking up prescription hemorrhoid cream? I'm probably standing weird. Why is he smiling? He knows he's gonna call me hemorrhoid Lloyd tomorrow. I know it. I gotta quit my job.

[Rick Ross]

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[Joe Crack]

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[Daniel Cormier]

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[Joe Crack]

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[Daniel Cormier]

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[Joe Crack]

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[Rick Ross]

but look, I like what you said about the whack rappers that might get out of line. And just imagine if I had the chance to slap 50 cent with this right here.

[Joe Crack]

Come on, man.

[Jada]

Family show, Roy.

[Rick Ross]

No, I'm just saying just imagine that. That's a blessing.

[Joe Crack]

Chance to smack the whack rappers with that.

[Rick Ross]

You said, imagine if I could just catch 50 Cent with that.

[Joe Crack]

No, for real, I ran out of flag.

[Rick Ross]

We just talked about. No, no, no, you just mentioned it, Joe. I gotta give you what you need.

[Joe Crack]

No, I'm not talking about him.

[Rick Ross]

No, you was.

[Joe Crack]

No, I wasn't. Yeah, yeah, no, I wasn't.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, yeah, I caught that. I caught that.

[Joe Crack]

No, the whack rappers running around sorry for me. And then you get. I had nothing with the million dollar back here.

[Rick Ross]

You feel me? This, that million dollar one right here. I. I caught that.

[Joe Crack]

No, I didn't say that.

[Rick Ross]

No, we was, we was talking about.

[Joe Crack]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[Rick Ross]

We called that. We called that.

[Joe Crack]

Let me tell you something. When you see your man Gunplay talking about he want to vibe with niggas and this and this and that.

[Rick Ross]

What's up with like, N be going through things, man. N be going through things. Niggas be going through things. You understand?

[Joe Crack]

Is that the first like Benedict Arnold on the team? Cause y' all keep it like I've had him. I gotta use the best defective.

[Jada]

I gotta use the best.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, no, no, stay here, stay here.

[Jada]

The mic.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, no. You gotta realize. You gotta realize different n go through different things and everything gonna present itself at, you know, at the right time. I can't go no further than that. You know what I'm saying? But the whack nigga you was talking about, we could go back to him. You was talking about 50 Cent. The whack nigga. That's.

[Joe Crack]

I'm not even thinking about him. I was talking about a time when.

[Rick Ross]

No, I called that. I called that alley. Hoo, nigga, I called it. I'm a Duncan. You told me the alley. I'm a Duncan.

[Joe Crack]

This Joe and J. I'mma Wim. Ros. Yo, yo, yo, yo, Ross. Let me tell you something though, but, you know, I have my share of defectors and what we call them, disgruntled employees or who used to be down. They find theyself outside the lot.

[Jada]

Light.

[Joe Crack]

Cause it's a light. You know what I'm saying? I'm with Rick Ross. I'm hanging out with Rick Ross. If I'm that guy, the book guy, I'm in the private. I'm eating or dirt.

[Rick Ross]

You on my jet.

[Joe Crack]

You on the yacht, you on the pool.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Crack]

Don't understand the affiliation. Lifestyle.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah,

[Joe Crack]

we go to the Philly game. Yo, K, you pull up Skinny Joe, got the fucking cheesesteak for you. This the affiliated lifestyle, right? No, I tell them, like, so we got a little thing. We're gonna say something. And this is not bad, because I love everybody, right? But say, like, I hear some guys that work for Khaled, they complain, yo, I work too hard at this and this and that. I said, these work too hard in 60 million dollar mansion. They work too hard on the G6. They work too hard at the Grammy red carpet. They work too hard with the lobsters in states every day. Like, oh, like, oh, you're isolated in the Turks and Cake. Like, I can't do it. So if, if, if, if I gotta represent the labor unions, I can't represent them. Ross. You know, when I was a kid, you run into the war, you get a chichon. Spanish call that chichones. They'll put butter on your shit. Sugar. You hit a nigga with that shit.

[Jada]

I've never heard of sugar.

[Joe Crack]

That shit be like state, dog.

[Rick Ross]

But guess what? If and when, if and when it happened, I got the plug to get a nigga veneers done. I got a dentist office too. So if a nigga too came out, the whack rappers, anybody that can't read. I caught that too. Kiss. You know what I mean?

[Joe Crack]

Who can't read?

[Jada]

Mad raps.

[Joe Crack]

They can't read.

[Jada]

They just have a read off.

[Joe Crack]

Well, you know.

[Rick Ross]

And we'll start with this book right here, the Renaissance Book.

[Joe Crack]

It only makes. Let me tell you something. The only thing you can't do to Kiss is put that fucking teleprompter that far away. Hard Rock Best 1800 OKC. He got the higher and the lower.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, he can't see.

[Joe Crack]

You got to diss this off of here.

[Jada]

I'mma make you read the rest of the.

[Joe Crack]

Rose. Man, I'm so proud of you. I see Freddie here. You make. Because you every time I worried about you, you proved me wrong.

[Rick Ross]

Facts.

[Joe Crack]

So like you bought this big ass house Evander Holyfield shit. And I'm like, what the fuck Rose doing? How many people would fit? How many people could sleep in this house in Atlanta?

[Rick Ross]

75 maybe.

[Joe Crack]

What the fuck? And Rick Ross is there with two, three people, right? So what I'm saying is that shit, I'm like, yo, this nigga's bugging out, like, why he bought this house. Next thing I know you throwing the car show with Freddie and that shit ran packed, making money out the wide. I said, yo, Rose say always, always find a fucking way. I mean, that's genius. Like, when did you say, yo, I'm gonna let the whole community in my house? Like, that's to me. I don't throw parties. I don't even talk to my neighbors. Were you to throw a thousand, two thousand people in your house?

[Rick Ross]

8,000, 10,000. Yeah, it was actually 12,000. Yeah, you gotta be creative when you got somebody like 57. Freddie Billing, your old school, it's easy to get a half a million dollar tab. And after you do that a few times, you gotta find a way. You know what, Freddie? Let's get some Money Together by G. You feel me? And so we just said, let's do it in the front yard. You know what I'm saying? We put it together, we made it happen. June 13th is the 5th annual.

[Jada]

Oh,

[Joe Crack]

That's a royal slap too. Because this is like, yeah, yeah, yeah. For no reason with the pink on. It's like, yo, let me tell you something, yo, you missed the royal slapping have cometh. Yo, this gonna hit you with the buka. You beat up this guy one time, Ross.

[Jada]

That's your limitation.

[Joe Crack]

No, no, no, no. We beat up this guy, he was like super brawlic. Jumped up, he was like 15. We jumping on everybody. Bong the Minute he turned bong, everybody getting one off on him. That nigga went like this and caught me me bang with the back. I was like, I see the purge out that get him. I'm like, don't let that go. Cause if he catch one of you, y' all don't want this. That hit me with the bong. I said, oh, the virgin. The stars was gone.

[Rick Ross]

That's.

[Joe Crack]

Oh, my God. I tell you that story all the time, Rich. And he didn't call me with the backhand. You catch a. With that. What electrified the thing is, I can't

[Rick Ross]

wear it in the strip clubs. They. The girls just want to suck it. You know what I mean? I asked them, don't put it all the way down your throat. No, for real.

[Jada]

It ain't that serious.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, for real. You go to my Instagram, I say, yo, yo, bro, this.

[Joe Crack]

Let me tell you something, Ross. I watch you and I say, damn, he in love this time. Two days later, divorce the line. The be like this shade room with the crack. He get the little ball alert with the crack in the middle. It's over, Rick.

[Rick Ross]

Ross.

[Joe Crack]

I'm like, God damn. They got Rick brought. Young boy, you use a fly. Let me tell you something, Rose. For the fat niggas you put. They put some shit on Instagram. I agreed with them. They put all the fat guys. Ross Pon me, Biggie, heavy D. Heavy D1. I mean, for that, whoever that genre, they said, who's the flyest fat ever? I'm a salute Heavy D. I ain't gonna. I seen all the comments.

[Rick Ross]

All the fat man.

[Jada]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Crack]

I ain't gonna lie. He is.

[Rick Ross]

It means he had that Cherokee back then, too. Ros was a young. I seen that Cherokee boy. I already knew. Whatever we got to do to get a Cherokee, we with it.

[Joe Crack]

You need that, right? He inspired me like crazy. But you, you done inspired some fat worldwide, man.

[Rick Ross]

Wherever they at.

[Joe Crack]

And the we didn't inspire, they was rolling.

[Rick Ross]

If you ain't inspired this, Ross.

[Jada]

It was one of my albums too. I remember I might have went one or two charted. He called me up good my go get you a big steak and a lobster with extra butter sauce.

[Joe Crack]

He ain't lying. It's the first thing he ever told me. I said, yo, Rose, I met you.

[Rick Ross]

Let me tell you something. I'm inspired by success. I see from other homies from different places. That's just the genuine way of moving. I don't care where you from, if you nigga, whatever it is. We ain't tripping on, nigga, what you is, nigga, it don't matter if you hustling, you hustling. That's where you from. That's your race, that's your creed, that's your color, you understand? And in this hip hop game, that's just like me. Off the camera, niggas would love to say, I personally hate Drake for life. N, would you hate. Nah, homie, we not gonna make it.

[Joe Crack]

That.

[Rick Ross]

That wouldn't be genuine. If a nigga step out of line and you gotta chastise him, that's what you do. But we not finna make that into. Dog. Ain't took no dope from me, dawg. Don't owe Ros no paper, you know what I'm saying? Nigga just. He moved the wrong way. Hey, don't let the Grammys get you fucked up in the streets. It's a difference. I made music for the streets. I never necessarily went out and looked for a Grammy. That was never my goal.

[Joe Crack]

Well, you got to.

[Rick Ross]

The numbers speak for both of you. Of course. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't nothing wrong with that, nigga.

[Joe Crack]

And I'm just hoping everybody increase the peace.

[Rick Ross]

Nah, you got scared. No, no, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. I'm giving Joe Crack what Joe Crack asks for. The whack rappers, the nigga 50 Cent. I never. You threw me the alley hoop. You threw me the alley hoop on 50, nigga. Come get it.

[Joe Crack]

50? Oh, fuck it.

[Rick Ross]

What they call him?

[Joe Crack]

I didn't say that about 50 Cent, man.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, you did.

[Joe Crack]

I didn't do that. I had a whole. Look, look, let me be clear. I don't have to, but I'll be clear. For the record, I definitely wasn't thinking about 50 Cent. I was thinking about some old school rappers. I don't wanna say who. Yellow Foster.

[Jada]

Who?

[Rick Ross]

It was the old N. It was

[Joe Crack]

some old N, man. It was some friends of mine that back in the day, they had the game in the choko. And then they got a big album deal. They got their first big check and they flocked. And, man, they said, no, it was G Unit.

[Rick Ross]

It was them niggas. The nigga with the dog cheek. What's that nigga name? Uncle Murder. That nigga cheeks way darker than his forehead. I don't know what that nigga went through. He need that rewind. Skin cream, nigga. Them niggas ain't getting no money neither. Rose know. Rose know. I caught that alley hoop, my nigga.

[Joe Crack]

No I didn't do that.

[Rick Ross]

I went bayama there, nigga.

[Joe Crack]

My shit PG13. William, I'm talking about inspiration. When I see Rick Ross, I think inspiration Kiss what that means. I think inspiration.

[Rick Ross]

Come on, now, let's keep it real. The nigga cheats, dog.

[Joe Crack]

I'm out of here. Listen, the world's watching. You want to say I inspired that talk. You did. You want to say that I caught

[Rick Ross]

the alley hoop on the niggas I went by.

[Joe Crack]

I didn't give you that alley hoop.

[Rick Ross]

I went by it.

[Joe Crack]

And good luck to the Knicks.

[Rick Ross]

I say okc and the Knicks going rose, saying that.

[Joe Crack]

Who's going to win the.

[Rick Ross]

Yo, okc. Dang, dang, nigga. We just putting the money up. I'm catching the alley hoops.

[Joe Crack]

I think. Let me tell you something. I really think. And you guys, man, let me tell you. I lived in Miami. You guys hate the Knicks. Man, I don't know.

[Rick Ross]

No, we don't.

[Joe Crack]

That was.

[Rick Ross]

No, that ain't true.

[Joe Crack]

I'm in the studio every night. That ain't true.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, no, no.

[Joe Crack]

Dre's a hater.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, no. Dre a hater. No, no.

[Joe Crack]

All you blow out Philly, there ain't no.

[Rick Ross]

With the Knicks. To the Detroit, Miami with the Knicks. With the kn. You gotta understand the Knicks culture. Always been a one nigga. Always been fly, nigga. Y' all shit always been fly, nigga.

[Joe Crack]

Thank you, brother.

[Rick Ross]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Crack]

That Spike Lee I just hate so much, man. The whole studio.

[Rick Ross]

No, you gotta give props to the Heat, though. Three rings, nigga. Three rings. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the Heat. You know what I'm saying? But niggas ain't hating.

[Joe Crack]

Who's your favorite Heat player of all time?

[Rick Ross]

Of all time? Yeah.

[Joe Crack]

Of all time.

[Rick Ross]

D. Wade.

[Joe Crack]

D. Wade.

[Rick Ross]

D. Wade. Crash. We called him Crash.

[Joe Crack]

I love D. Wade. I got him in the club. When he first came to Miami.

[Jada]

Crash.

[Rick Ross]

I thought it was Flash.

[Jada]

He switched.

[Joe Crack]

He's what? Wade County?

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack]

Wade county was Wade.

[Rick Ross]

You know, when we called him Wade county, we call it. You know, that was Wade. That's what I'm trying to say now.

[Joe Crack]

I'm gonna say, besides D. Wade, who's like, an obvious one, but that nigga, we get his son, not Bam. Get out of here, man. What's that?

[Rick Ross]

Come on. No, don't do that. No, no, no, no. Bam, if you gonna say beware, you

[Joe Crack]

gonna say LeBron James.

[Rick Ross]

Tim Hardaway is an icon.

[Joe Crack]

Tim Hardaway. Salute.

[Rick Ross]

Tim Hardaway.

[Joe Crack]

To this day, they doing him.

[Rick Ross]

Salute Tim Hardaway.

[Joe Crack]

Tim Hardaway.

[Rick Ross]

We salute him. He saluted Lonzo.

[Joe Crack]

Morning, Lonzo. Morning. But Tim Hardaway. Shaq with the swag. Shaq.

[Rick Ross]

We won a ring with big Shaq. Shout out to Shaq.

[Joe Crack]

Let me tell you something, man. Y' all got win. Y' all got rich.

[Rick Ross]

Come on. You finna tell us something? You finna say something?

[Joe Crack]

No, I got love. I told you that Shaq story one time. But what happened to me, nigga? I used to work at Drop Studio in Manhattan. And one day I was supposed to meet Drop at the studio. And I walk up in there, and this shit is pitch black. And I'm like. And it's a shadow of a nigga this big, spitting, sitting down.

[Rick Ross]

Diesel.

[Joe Crack]

I said, that's it. They got me. They came to kill me. I ain't had a hammer on me, nothing. I said, yo, I'm done for sure. This turned around right here. So I'm looking for the light switch. And I turned the light switch on and shot. I said, yo, Diesel, what's up, brother? What's going on? He said, wanted to tell you first, big fella. They just traded me to Phoenix. I'm like, cheap. Jesus Christ. I thought this nigga was gonna murder me in this fucking studio. All I saw was a fucking shadow, was Shaq. He's a big motherfucker. Shaquille o'. Neal. But Shaq, I'm gonna say Tim Hardaway. Because D. Wade is just like. It's too obvious. So I'm gonna just try to give him a little Tim Hardaway.

[Rick Ross]

I'm not mad at that. Cause Tim Hardaway is an icon. And the niggas salute the legends and the icons. I'm not mad at that at all.

[Joe Crack]

I fuck with Tim Hardaway. I think the Knicks is gonna win it all, guys. I think it just feels like it.

[Jada]

Guys, let's go.

[Rick Ross]

We could make us a light wager off the camera. You know what I'm talking about? We can make us just a light. Light. Nothing crazy. You know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

Something light.

[Joe Crack]

That sga, man, they got a real good team, but I think we got a real good team, too. Yeah, I think OG Getting hurt gave us a chance to see everybody else play. Everybody put in the minutes. Your man finally woke up. What's his name?

[Jada]

Dude, he had eight threes.

[Joe Crack]

Niggas been screaming dudes for the whole year. He ain't been hitting one basket. It finally makes sense now. That motherfucker, he has surgery, man.

[Jada]

Let the man, heal up and get right, man.

[Joe Crack]

Yo, Rich, thank God that man is shooting good. The deuce. Cause I was. I was done. I was off the deuce.

[Jada]

Yeah, he was trained.

[Joe Crack]

I was off that. I'm like, yo, it's time to. You know what I mean? Yo, Fred, A. What's up, boy? Right?

[Rick Ross]

57 Freddy in the building.

[Joe Crack]

57 Freddy, Freddy, you got shot how many times? AK 47. No, no, that's real talk.

[Rick Ross]

Nine times.

[Joe Crack]

Nine times with some. These bullets is this big, man you make. God loves you, man. Freddy's still a fly. Still pull up. Get money with Ros.

[Rick Ross]

That boy stomach look like a motherfucking roll map.

[Joe Crack]

That tell these all the time. I said, khaled, today I'm driving over there. He talking, talking to me. I said, man, let me tell you something. I tell everybody. He don't. He don't let me talk. Khaled won't let you talk. I tell, yo, Caleb, you're God's child. God loves you so much. You have a beautiful family. You got so much money, it feels like you can't even run out.

[Rick Ross]

Amazing.

[Joe Crack]

You're so blessed in this world. The skies is blue. The sun is out. This Khaled, man, you so blessed. Some people, God's children. You wouldn't be here if you Wasn't God's children. 8 times with an AK 47. 9 times with an AK 47. We was already buying the floor. His watch, bro.

[Rick Ross]

The one that was gonna hit him right in the center of his chest. His hand caught that. That's why his hand exploded.

[Joe Crack]

What would you.

[Rick Ross]

That got two fingers over there.

[Joe Crack]

But thank God it ain't hit you where it was supposed to.

[Rick Ross]

Big time.

[Joe Crack]

Nah, that shit crazy. I see Freddy all the time. I say, damn, man, Freddy, man, he got. Got it, man. You know, God love you, man.

[Rick Ross]

He's.

[Joe Crack]

He spared your life. AK47, that's Iraq, Afghanistan, you know what I'm saying? You got a story to tell. When? Yo, when you writing the Freddy book? I'm pretty sure he'll answer direct.

[Rick Ross]

I thought he got a few books covered up.

[Joe Crack]

Yo, let me tell you something, yo. I went. We almost gonna rap, but I went through depression, you know, I lost my sister, my best friend, Big Pond, and my grandfather, like, the same week or two. And I was like, this was too much for me, right? And I was the boss. And so I had a lot to deal with. And so I had to go therapy, you know what I'm saying? And when I went to therapy, the whole time, I Thought I was getting that shit expensive. I thought I was getting jerked. And the lady would just let me talk and talk and talk and talk and talk. And then her form of therapy. I realized when I snapped out of the depression is she make you figure it out yourself. She like. She'll talk to you till you figure it out yourself. And you over the depression shit. And so you gotta realize that, you know, I don't know why I explained that story, but I'm gonna.

[Rick Ross]

It's a part of the. It's. It's a part of the therapy.

[Joe Crack]

Yeah, the therapy speak it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She teaches me to figure out my. She wasn't telling me, like, all right, you gotta do this, or here's these pills, or here's this. She would hear me out every week. And then to the point of where I heard myself. And I was like, all right, we gotta switch this shit up and get up out of this shit right here.

[Rick Ross]

Big turn.

[Joe Crack]

You know what I'm saying? So that's important. Like, yesterday was my first Mom's Day without my mom's. That was hard.

[Rick Ross]

Sorry to hear that.

[Joe Crack]

My brother gonna lie to you. That was always. I went to the store. Them had me crying in the car. Hold up, mama. They only play the mama. You niggas in there like you crying to yourself. And so I didn't feel like Mother's Day, you know what I'm saying? And people celebrating their wives as mothers and this and this and that. Me, I didn't. I watched serial killer movies yesterday just to make me forget it was Mother's Day. Because shit is hard. It's traumatizing, you know? But that, you know, that's where we at with it. Check this out. It's called Renaissance of a Boss. Renaissance album is called Set in Stone. Set in Stone.

[Rick Ross]

The pre order. The album right now is hitting the streets June 12th. The book. Yeah, the book is out. This actually tomorrow. Yeah.

[Jada]

When you see this, the book is out. By the time you see this episode, the book is already out, out. Let's make it another best seller, another bestseller.

[Joe Crack]

This ain't that.

[Jada]

That ain't this crack. Make some noise for Rosette.

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