Podcast Summary: "Joe and Jada"

Episode: Shakur Stevenson calls out Ryan Garcia & Devin Haney, talks dominant performance vs. Teofimo Lopez
Date: March 10, 2026
Hosts: Fat Joe, Jadakiss
Guest: Shakur Stevenson
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Overview

In this episode, hip-hop legends Fat Joe and Jadakiss (Joe Crack and Jada) sit down with undefeated boxing champion Shakur Stevenson after his major win over Teofimo Lopez. The conversation dives deep into Shakur’s fight strategy, heritage, inspirations, giving back to Newark, and his bold callouts to fellow fighters Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney. The episode is laced with candid stories, humor, and real talk about boxing, hip-hop culture, and community.

Main Topics & Key Discussion Points

Introduction & Setting the Stage

[04:03]

• Hosts hype up Stevenson’s credentials: undefeated, Olympic medalist, multi-division world champion (“number three, pound for pound, greatest fighter in the world.” – Joe Crack)
• Fat Joe: "Fucking right."
• Shakur joins, greeted by both hosts.

Breaking Down the Teofimo Lopez Fight

[05:34]

• Shakur’s mindset & preparation:
  • Knew Teofimo had skills but saw “so many mistakes” he could capitalize on.
  • Confirms the fight played out exactly as planned ("everything...I was going to do, it happened on fighting everything” – [05:34])
• Fat Joe draws comparisons to other boxing legends, Floyd Mayweather’s adaptability.
• Shakur: “There was nothing he could've did that night that was gonna change the outcome” ([06:50]).
• Discussion of Teofimo’s father’s distracting presence in the corner (“That’s not a plan. Not crazy.” – Fat Joe [08:20])

Strategy, Coaching, & Mentors

[10:35]

• Bud Crawford’s Role:
  • Shakur: “He kind of text me something that...helped. [It] confirmed what I knew...on fight night when I did that shit, damn, this shit is fucking him up. He cannot stop this shit” ([10:41]-[11:18])
• Hosts praise Shakur’s tactical mastery; discussion of confidence and psychological warfare (Fat Joe notes Shakur smiling mid-fight, calling it intimidating).

Heritage & Identity

[14:08]

• The Puerto Rican flag on Shakur’s shorts:
  • Shakur opens up emotionally about his heritage (“that’s my blood...but I never really got to be around [my dad]...when I got to meet him...he died” – [14:34]-[14:58])
  • Admits embracing that side is new but important: “Now I'm like, fuck it. It is what it is. Part of my blood, part of who I am.” ([15:06]-[15:07])
• Fat Joe and Shakur discuss shared experiences of straddling cultural lines.

Around the Fight Game: Current Landscape & Contenders

[16:48]

• Connor Benn:
  • Shakur: “I think it’s hype...he’s not like no skillful fighter...his knowledge is limited...it’s levels” ([16:55]-[17:21])
• Fat Joe: “I don’t feel like you ducking nobody”

Personal Drive & Upbringing

[17:33]

• Recounting old clips of Shakur crying after a loss as a kid.
• “It meant so much to you at that age, you knew what winning was. That's why you here with you right now.” – Joe Crack [17:57]
• Shakur shares nerves about big fight walkouts and memories of Fat Joe performing for a former opponent.

On Hip-Hop, Celebrity, and Humility

[20:13]

• Discussion about authenticity, celebrity attitude, and staying grounded.
• Fat Joe: “If you like me, you came from shit...I don’t like celebrities that treat people like shit...You could be the most beautiful girl in the world, you think your shit don’t stink? Look, go over there.” ([21:43]-[22:05])

Giving Back & Community Impact

[24:01]

• Shakur: “That shit mean everything. I enjoy the kids...I just want to show them, like, it's possible. You come from nothing...but you still can get out...with hard work and dedication.” ([24:05]-[24:45])
• Discussion about athlete giving in their home cities, referencing Fat Joe’s own community involvement and the power of role models.

Shakur’s Inspirations & Mentors

[36:30]

• Boxers who inspired Shakur: Floyd Mayweather, Terence Crawford, Pernell Whitaker, Sugar Ray Leonard, Usyk, Bivol. Also, the importance of international fighters.
• “They kind of know boxing at a different level...” ([36:42])

The Business of Boxing & Belt Politics

[41:57]

• Shakur describes being stripped of a belt due to fee disputes.
  • “When you win the belt, you gotta pay to be able to keep your belt...they asking me for double what I paid...they really got mad at Terence Crawford. They try to take it out on me.” ([42:19]-[43:09])
• Hosts compare boxing fees to buying a Hollywood Walk of Fame star: “You copped it...By the way, you buy that shit, basically.” ([43:32]-[43:54])

J. Prince & Mentors (Personal Connections)

[34:28]

• Shakur shares how Andre Ward introduced him to J. Prince as a teen, cementing a mentorship and family bond, with stories of being at J. Prince’s club and island.
• "He a real....that's a real like I fuck with that." ([35:31])

Training, Lifestyle, and The Future

[58:39]

• Shakur asks about going to the studio post-career, linking athletes' post-sport routines to artists' creativity cycles.
• Jada and Fat Joe: “It’s a lifestyle.”

On the Next Generation

[41:52]

• Shakur is focusing on training his "young fighters" coming up, showing commitment to giving back and developing the next stars.

Toughest Opponents & Fighters He Wants Next

[40:04]

• Toughest fight: “William Zepeda...dude was tough...willing to do whatever it took to win.” ([40:10]-[40:48])

[49:14]

• Ryan Garcia: Shakur wants that fight, says “take away the left hook, he’s cooked.” ([49:36])
• Devin Haney: Fat Joe calls him out as “fighting scared” since getting caught; Shakur says a "scared man is hard to beat” and is open to the matchup if the business makes sense. ([50:48]-[51:22])

[51:43]

• Discussion on how big fights don’t always need a belt.

Music & Energy

[52:01]

• Shakur’s pre-fight playlist: Meek Mill, 50 Cent, Jay Z, Tupac, Jadakiss – loves a variety of hype and motivational hip-hop. ([52:36])
• Fat Joe shares stories of fighting to hip-hop soundtracks, including classic moments from New York streets. ([53:16])

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Fight Preparation:
  “If I'm being real with you, it's nothing he could have did that night that was gonna change the outcome of what I was doing.” – Shakur Stevenson ([06:50])

• On Heritage:
  “It's hard to really claim that I'm Puerto Rican… But now I'm like, fuck it. It is what it is. Part of my blood, part of who I am and let it be known.” – Shakur Stevenson ([14:34]-[15:07])

• On Calling Out Contenders:
  “You name them, I'll fight 'em… the same fucking shit that y' all already know. Take away the fucking left hook. You take away his left hook, he's cooked.” – Shakur on Ryan Garcia ([49:36])

• On Giving Back:
  “That's my main thing, showing them… you come from the slums, but you still can get out… with hard work and dedication.” – Shakur ([24:21])

• On Boxing Politics:
  “You gotta pay to be able to keep your belt. So, I paid…they're asking me for double ...to go up to 140 and keep my belt.” – Shakur ([42:30])

• On Realness & Humility:
  “I don't like celebrities that treat people like shit...You could be the most beautiful girl in the world. You think your shit don't stink? Look, go over there." – Fat Joe ([22:05])

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [05:34] – Shakur details his strategy vs. Teofimo Lopez.
• [10:41] – Shakur on advice from Terence Crawford.
• [14:08] – Story behind the Puerto Rican flag on his shorts.
• [16:55] – On Connor Benn: “I think it’s hype.”
• [17:33] – Childhood clips/importance of passion and mindset.
• [24:01] – Giving back to Newark's youth.
• [34:28] – Relationship with J. Prince and mentorship stories.
• [36:30] – Boxers who influenced Shakur.
• [40:04] – Toughest fight (William Zepeda).
• [41:57] – Getting stripped of a title and the business side of belts.
• [49:14] – Calling out Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney.
• [52:01] – Shakur’s fight playlist.
• [58:39] – Comparing studio life and gym life post-career.

Tone & Style

The conversation is highly energetic, candid, and infused with humor, reflecting Fat Joe and Jadakiss’s natural rapport. Shakur Stevenson is forthright, self-confident, yet humble about his roots and responsibilities. Street wisdom, boxing acumen, and music culture intertwine, giving listeners both entertainment and substance.

Memorable Moments

• The detailed breakdown of Teofimo Lopez’s defeat and how Shakur “smiling” in the ring got into his opponent’s head.
• Shakur candidly addressing the legacy struggles of growing up with an absent Puerto Rican father, and how he now claims his full heritage.
• The callouts to Ryan Garcia (“take away the left hook…he's cooked” – [49:36]) and frank discussion of Devin Haney’s “fighting scared.”
• Behind-the-scenes on how boxers are forced to pay to keep their belts—likened to "buying" a Hollywood star ([43:32]).
• Touching stories about athlete responsibility, giving back, and what truly matters beyond the ring.

Closing

Fat Joe wraps up, calling Shakur “the face of boxing” and making sure all of Newark, NJ is celebrated. The conversation ends with mutual respect between hip-hop legends and boxing's next superstar.

This episode is a must-listen for boxing fans, hip-hop heads, and anyone who appreciates authenticity, inspiration, and some serious Bronx-Newark flavor.