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Fat Joe
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Jada Kiss
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Fat Joe
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Fat Joe
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Swae Lee
Coming up. Boom. Same day, Justin Bieber shipping to be a movie for real. You got to come this year, man. Be the first year. You're more than welcome to pull up to my set, gang.
Interviewer/Host
All right?
Swae Lee
Two, three songs. Whatever.
Interviewer/Host
No cap.
Swae Lee
No cap. Jada Kiss, first ever at Coachella. That's legendary.
Jada Kiss
Facts.
Swae Lee
That's gonna go.
Fat Joe
Do you get exc.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
What up, y'?
Background Vocalist/Chorus
All?
Fat Joe
It's Joe Crack the Dawn.
Jada Kiss
You know who it is. Your boy Jada Kiss. This is the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. We don't play around with you guys.
Interviewer/Host
Nor do we eff around.
Jada Kiss
We're not doing what you doing.
Fat Joe
Let's just keep going. Just keep going. Your kids don't hype me up. Don't doing what we doing. I'm not trying to go bad. I've been nice.
Jada Kiss
Screw it, man. Weather is breaking.
Fat Joe
Go bad.
Jada Kiss
I mean, go bad every now and then. No, when you think of today's guest, as we told you, every show legendary, every show iconic, you think of somebody who came in with his group, made a hell of an impact with the group. Knocked them out the park. Knocked them out the park. Shout out to Mike Will. They knocked them. They came in and I say hit a few grand slams. Know what I mean? Never compromise. They'll always stay solid. Every time you see them with the group, without the group, always love. Always. Got that good energy transition to a solo artist. Hit even more out the park. Know what I mean? It's Batman. Pause. He. He couldn't strike Out. There's no such thing.
Fat Joe
Anything he touched, rock star.
Jada Kiss
Anything he touched just slide up, you know what I mean? I think I even seen him on a helicopter playing a video game. Was the illest I ever seen. He was in airplane making all kind of history, know. I mean, now he about to do it again. He felt like, you know what I mean? He looked at the ball, he looked at the rafters. Felt like putting some more home runs in there. So they gonna do it again. When you think of drip, when you think of ice, when you think of somebody who just does whatever the fuck he wants and it looks like he's having fun doing it. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother, Swae Lee.
Swae Lee
What up, what up, what up, what up, what up? What's happening? What's happening, what's happening? Sway, Lee, Lee, Sway. Same difference, man. Appreciate that, my brothers, for real. Thank y' all for having me.
Interviewer/Host
For real.
Jada Kiss
Appreciate you, my brother. You know what I mean?
Swae Lee
That legends, you know what I'm saying? I started me up, got me lit.
Interviewer/Host
You smoked some legendary before you walked in here, right?
Fat Joe
You look like you on that Whobonnet chronic.
Swae Lee
Oh, no. Sober, sober living.
Interviewer/Host
Squeeze play.
Swae Lee
Sober, sober living, sober living. You just.
Jada Kiss
Damn, you just got that kind of. This is a different kind of energy.
Swae Lee
Oh, I take a shot, though, you know what I'm saying? With my bro.
Fat Joe
1800, yo. Double time. Two time.
Jada Kiss
Two time.
Fat Joe
A fellow don't wait a minute.
Jada Kiss
Swear you don't gotta do nothing. Gotta do nothing.
Fat Joe
Where's Two time? A felon. No, no, no, no, no.
Jada Kiss
He gonna take care of you, James. You want to do the honest.
Swae Lee
My fault.
Jada Kiss
I know you want to shine.
Swae Lee
I'm just kidding, my brother.
Fat Joe
Just for one. Take care number four. Take care of others.
Jada Kiss
I notice when I go home and watch the show, you try to get me smacked.
Fat Joe
You. Yeah.
Jada Kiss
And you talking about I'm shooting at you. You try to make them slide me
Fat Joe
so you much more fun on 1800. That's difference. You think you more fun smoked out when you drink? You legendary. You Jada become the best drink.
Jada Kiss
I might get us in trouble.
Fat Joe
Oh, big time.
Jada Kiss
Seek the kingdom.
Interviewer/Host
Seek the kingdom.
Fat Joe
Give a toast to Sway Lee, man. Come on, let's do it. 1800.
Jada Kiss
1800. You know what it is?
Fat Joe
Damn. The flag on the plate. No, it's 1800 white. Shit.
Jada Kiss
He got the clear one.
Fat Joe
If I drank that shit y' all be carrying, he can't hit the replacement.
Jada Kiss
Less. Less sugar for. For the thing. The pack, man. Brother, that's right.
Fat Joe
Legendary leader all the way up.
Interviewer/Host
Well, I took my sip already, bro.
Fat Joe
How much y' all want me to drink? Half the bottle got me 1800 out.
Swae Lee
I ain't gonna get on that timing, man.
Interviewer/Host
That's a quadruple shot, my brother.
Fat Joe
How did you get discovered? How did you get in the game? Was it Mike William? I just see you come out of nowhere, just like Jada. Jada ain't exaggerating the line. You just came out, and your shit was legendary.
Interviewer/Host
Like.
Fat Joe
So how did you get your start?
Swae Lee
Man, I grew up in Mississippi. And long story short, my DJ was cousins with Mike woods producers, the Ear Drummers. So it's my homies P, Nasty, and Mars. They first got in touch with us, and they heard our music that we was making from Mississippi, so. So they told us, man, y' all come to Atlanta, man. Y' all work with us, you know what I'm saying? Just lock in with us, see what comes from it. So we was working at McDonald's, just doing what we could to get some money at the time.
Interviewer/Host
So, boom.
Swae Lee
One of my homies, he had a truck. So we got down, drove that shit from Mississippi to Atlanta, and just locked in, like, a whole year in the basement and just cooking up with Mike Will, cooking up with the ear drummers, just creating a new sound. And Mike Will would come over and hear the songs. He'd be like, yo, man, y' all boy is hard, you know what I'm saying? He always paid show Mad love, and then he had an idea for a group, Ear Drummers backwards. And he felt like the sound, like, matched that name. And we was like, shit, that's hard, you know what I'm saying?
Interviewer/Host
So boom.
Swae Lee
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Interviewer/Host
That's how it happened, me and Broski. You know what's crazy is it's good to have money. Yeah, right. And success.
Fat Joe
But it was nothing more priceless than that time when you was in the
Interviewer/Host
basement creating that music and all that,
Fat Joe
you know, I met Bryson Tiller and my man Rich the Barber's house. We used to live in Rich the Barber's house. He was making that whole first album in his kitchen.
Swae Lee
Damn.
Fat Joe
So I got to see that product. Of course, he got the big mansion now. He caked the fuck up. But it was, you know, that's a priceless time when you there learning the ropes and you coming up with these hits and you coming up with that sound and, you know, and dreaming. So after that year, y' all put out this music, and then the next
Interviewer/Host
Thing you know, you explode.
Fat Joe
How did that feel? Making a transition from nobody knowing you
Interviewer/Host
to now you the biggest shit in the game?
Swae Lee
Man, it was crazy. Cause, like, when we lived in Atlanta, it's like some of these clubs, you know what I'm saying? They turned us around. So many people told us, nah, we can't even play this. You know what I'm saying? But we on foot with it. So we work in every club, we screaming our shit loud in the streets. You know what I'm saying? We're handing out CDs, everything. So the turnaround was crazy. Like, the same clubs that was turning us around, same spots that was turning us around. They, like, they welcomed us with open arms.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Swae Lee
Booking and sending bags. So it's like, damn, shit. Crazy. It was crazy.
Interviewer/Host
Yfa Lucci was here and he forgot. But I remember one night, I come out the club, he's performing on top
Fat Joe
of the car, his song.
Interviewer/Host
And they was like, yo, that's yfn.
Fat Joe
I mean, Atlanta got a different type of grind. Like, motherfuckers gonna do what they gotta do. He told me that. But I remember watching YFN Lucci on top of a fucking car, performing his song outside the club.
Interviewer/Host
I said, man, that motherfucker grinding.
Swae Lee
Hungry to come up for sure. Super hungry. Doing whatever.
Fat Joe
That's really nuts. Cause that's the way I didn't think
Interviewer/Host
your era, y' all was doing that.
Fat Joe
That's how we came up, like, giving the Vinyl to the DJs, going to every club.
Interviewer/Host
And the truth is, we gotta get
Swae Lee
on foot with a trip.
Fat Joe
You can't really. Yeah, you can't be successful just standing in the corner, sitting on your couch.
Swae Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
You gotta like, you come on. Two time. Two times. That's who we're supposed to. Let me tell you something. Thank you, brother. But you can't be, you know, in your say. My daughter. My daughter got a little podcast shout
Interviewer/Host
out to as he as if.
Fat Joe
And she's making he say, she doing shit. Yeah, but she's doing shit because she out there in everybody face and working and doing whatever she can do on
Interviewer/Host
the front lines, networking and getting a relationship.
Fat Joe
So every time she comes out with
Interviewer/Host
a new breakthrough, I'm like, yeah, but she.
Fat Joe
She gotta be out.
Swae Lee
She made the brick.
Fat Joe
Nobody gonna be able to give you that success or get you to where you going without you out there grinding, putting in that work. It's just the way it is. I think if I put out a new record, I got. I got to do the same shit.
Swae Lee
Got to pop up now.
Fat Joe
20, 26, like, pull up on the club and be like, yo, play this shit, yo, this and this and that. I mean, it's always been where it's at. It's always been where you get the
Swae Lee
best success, best reaction.
Interviewer/Host
The best reaction, bro.
Jada Kiss
New single Crazy Don't Even call.
Swae Lee
Featuring Rich the Kid.
Jada Kiss
Shout out to Rich the Kid.
Swae Lee
Shout out Rich.
Jada Kiss
How did that happen? What made you. What. How did this song happen? How did the vision come? What made you make it the lead single?
Interviewer/Host
That's what. It's here about it.
Swae Lee
Yeah, see, boom. I live in Miami. Shit right now. So that song, like, I gave it to a couple DJs, it ended up, like, blowing up crazy in Miami. So all the girls know it in Miami and shit. You know what I'm saying? I always see Rich the kid out there. He live out there. So, boom, we always cross paths. I'll be in my. I'll be in my Rolls Royce. Me and his G wagon sitting up 50ft. We always see each other like, n.
Interviewer/Host
Let's get in big.
Swae Lee
Yeah, he got that. He got that Bribus kit, you know, like 350, 400. Oh, yeah.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, yeah.
Swae Lee
I know it's him. I know it's him every time.
Fat Joe
Step up now.
Swae Lee
Them senior citizen assistant.
Fat Joe
Yeah, for sure, though. I'm not exaggerating.
Swae Lee
They gotta get on them up.
Fat Joe
Yeah, them shits do like Rich is.
Swae Lee
Yeah, you got something crazy.
Interviewer/Host
I just bought a G wagon and
Fat Joe
I played myself
Swae Lee
that hard, though. But, yeah, I always see, bro.
Interviewer/Host
And then we like, convertible, doing.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
White on white. Cocaine.
Swae Lee
White on white.
Interviewer/Host
Crazy for that. Miami. So when we come down, you see that.
Swae Lee
That's exactly how rich. Riding white on white.
Interviewer/Host
No, I'm saying the Rolls Royce dawn.
Swae Lee
Oh, yeah, my. Oh, you talking your.
Jada Kiss
You got white.
Swae Lee
Oh, no, I got. I got the Rolls Royce truck.
Fat Joe
Culling it.
Swae Lee
Yeah, culling black badge. You know what I'm saying? 10 it up.
Interviewer/Host
Ain't nothing like it pull up in a reaper like that here, you can't.
Fat Joe
Yeah, in New York. I got mine here.
Swae Lee
The traffic too crazy.
Interviewer/Host
I love them traffic's too crazy. But, you know, I'm from here. So where would you say you more from? ATL or Mississippi?
Swae Lee
Definitely Mississippi. Yeah, I'm from.
Fat Joe
Well, I know that. I know the DNA in New York City is.
Interviewer/Host
It's hard for man. It's too much jealousy when I come down the block and that Rolls Royce is just hard, man. Crossing the street.
Fat Joe
You see that in their eyes and all that? That I Might have drove it one time in New York City like that. Just sitting there for no reason.
Jada Kiss
It's just.
Fat Joe
It's just I can't even get away. As fast as I pull that out, the faster on a day like today. That's nice. That should be back in the garage. You gonna go five minutes. It's like they just can't. They can't paralyze. They can't take that. They basically like, you just.
Swae Lee
They disgust.
Fat Joe
That's. I'm telling you, nobody. You can't take that here. Here in Miami, you go to Carbone anywhere. 72 Rolls Royce.
Swae Lee
Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure.
Fat Joe
Yeah. It shouldn't look like a skateboard out there. So many got them. Good luck. Telling you.
Interviewer/Host
Good luck.
Fat Joe
I drove through the same blocks I always drove through with, bro. Be like, yo, crack, what up, yo? You come down with that big body.
Swae Lee
Be like turning heads.
Fat Joe
They just tight.
Interviewer/Host
Just.
Fat Joe
They hate you, you know, I come
Interviewer/Host
up in the era where that's motivation. So I used to see the guys who used to hustle or sell the own number spots. And this, this, that.
Fat Joe
Or see a fly. You see a.
Interviewer/Host
In your hood. I come from.
Fat Joe
He was horrible. Like, nobody was fly. If one was fly, we used to
Interviewer/Host
look at him like, yeah, yeah, fly. One day, a little V bomber.
Fat Joe
Give me a little something. And, you know, we always took it as inspiration.
Swae Lee
Right?
Interviewer/Host
You know what I'm saying Now I don't know where that switch off is now.
Fat Joe
It's look like they almost assume you rubbing it in their face that you're successful. They take it another way now.
Interviewer/Host
Before, it used to be like, inspiration.
Swae Lee
Yeah. Miami break.
Fat Joe
Everybody got money. I don't know what it is. It's some fake shit.
Swae Lee
It's like, different energy.
Fat Joe
Is everybody rich? Like, I lived there for 23 years. Everywhere I go is fucking. They got ballet and Walgreens.
Swae Lee
Oh, God.
Fat Joe
Motherfucker. Miami. One of the biggest crooks in the world is the ballet. They got ballet in cbs. You go to cbs, they collect it, some Tylenol. They be like, yo, valet. The car beat you. Be like, what? Valet? You need cash in Miami to tip all these.
Swae Lee
Valet for sure.
Jada Kiss
That's a fact.
Swae Lee
And they gonna change the price to it. See you pull up in that Rolls Royce, it's automatically 100.
Interviewer/Host
I had this one Mexican dude, he ran all the clubs. He was the valet of all. He was the boss. My fucking man. Yeah.
Fat Joe
In the prime time. When we in the club seven days a week, my man ran the whole shit. I'll come Your papay, he take bleeding shit, man. One day they deported that said new boss hundred dollar up front. I used to pay this $50 for like, 10, 15 years. They couldn't wait for new boss. They was like, he bought it. Papi, papi, your man gone, gone. New boss hundred up front. Gole do.
Interviewer/Host
I said, damn, he couldn't wait to
Fat Joe
tell me that shit. Get him, niggas.
Jada Kiss
Yo, yo, that's the way, man.
Fat Joe
You gotta be cool with everybody.
Swae Lee
For real.
Jada Kiss
When you dropping the whole project? Are you gonna drop a project?
Swae Lee
Yeah, I'm dropping a project.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, wow.
Swae Lee
16 songs. Yeah, 16 songs, literally. Yeah. Me, Janaiaku, bust Malone, French Montana.
Fat Joe
Were y' all all dropping on that day?
Swae Lee
No, they all on my. On my Friday.
Fat Joe
I sampled on my last album.
Interviewer/Host
Man, she lucked out. Let me clear the sample.
Swae Lee
Janae.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, she hated the song, too. She was like, yo, I hate the song, man. You make me sound like a chipmunk. But, oh, crap, you know me. I. I call a beautician nail polish lady.
Fat Joe
The lady who do the eyes.
Interviewer/Host
The. When I'm on you post, they gonna find you, Swae Lee. Everywhere you go. The barber, the this, the that. Hey, the fat guy's looking for you. The fat guy's looking for you. The fat guy.
Fat Joe
You get it?
Interviewer/Host
You finally be like, yo, ain't no
Fat Joe
way I could go.
Interviewer/Host
This motherfucker looking for me.
Fat Joe
Damn.
Interviewer/Host
She cleared it for me. But she's.
Fat Joe
She's legendary. Who else you got? French Montana.
Swae Lee
Montana, for sure.
Fat Joe
Yeah. So everything good now? Cause unforgettable, they say, you know, there was a mix up of communication.
Swae Lee
I think what it was like, it looked one way on the Internet, but in real life, it just wasn't the traditional way you go about clearing a song, you know what I'm saying? But the outcome of the song was everything we could have imagined, you know what I'm saying? Everything we wanted. So it was a lot going on at the time, you know what I'm saying? But in the end, you know what
Interviewer/Host
I'm saying, it work yourself out.
Fat Joe
As rich as he is, he still talked to himself on the park bench about that song.
Swae Lee
I mean.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Cause every time I get around, he'd
Interviewer/Host
be like, yeah, man, that was my song, man.
Fat Joe
That I'm like, yo, Mike.
Swae Lee
Yeah, m m standing on it. He's standing on it. He's standing on it for sure.
Fat Joe
That's your man. I said, yeah, but, you know, I don't know.
Interviewer/Host
The.
Swae Lee
The standing on.
Fat Joe
He like, yo, man, for real?
Swae Lee
For real.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah.
Swae Lee
M M ain't playing with that. For real.
Fat Joe
He gonna go to the grave with that one. With that one. I'm telling you. Every time he a agree with how it happened.
Swae Lee
But I. I get it, cuz it's like it was a long story, you know what I'm saying?
Interviewer/Host
It's like.
Swae Lee
It's kind of like some backdoor, but it's like seeing an opportunity and season, you know what I'm saying?
Interviewer/Host
Basically what it was, the best thing is that it came out and it's connected. What it went like 20 million to 10 million. Some wild, right?
Swae Lee
But so classic. Like real classic.
Interviewer/Host
Definitely connected with the people and them shit's coming time. Yeah, that motherfucking came at a good time.
Swae Lee
For real. When nothing like that coming out, especially
Fat Joe
not that shit was a ufo, right? That to this day, when it come
Swae Lee
on is different sound like a movie when that motherfucker.
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Interviewer/Host
It's a different sound.
Swae Lee
Like Lion King.
Fat Joe
Nah, it's a different type of thing, bro. When that. Come on, man. Come on, let's keep it real, man.
Interviewer/Host
That unforgettable.
Fat Joe
That come on. I watched. I watched that go from JetBlue. He was private every day.
Swae Lee
Yeah, for sure.
Fat Joe
Then he married the princess of Dubai. I'm looking at all that off that unforgettable.
Swae Lee
It's crazy.
Interviewer/Host
God damn, this won't stop.
Swae Lee
It's one of them caliber songs for a timely song.
Jada Kiss
For real, you about to kick off a college tour.
Swae Lee
Not a college tour. I was just doing a couple stops. Talking to the colleges.
Jada Kiss
Yeah, exactly.
Swae Lee
So I went to some HBCUs. I went to Morehouse and Spelman in Atlanta. Then I just left.
Fat Joe
Talking to the colleges?
Swae Lee
Yeah, just like a seminar. Letting them know what's going on.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah.
Swae Lee
Boom.
Fat Joe
Wow, you're great. You're not scared?
Swae Lee
I ain't scared. You know what I'm saying? Basically just letting the music talk, you know what I'm saying? Tell them the coolest thing they can do is be smart. Just motivating them, getting them ready, putting them on the album too. You know what I'm saying? Just tapping in with the future and shit. You know what I'm saying?
Jada Kiss
That's fire.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, that's dope.
Swae Lee
Yeah. Later. I'm going to NYU after this.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, yeah.
Jada Kiss
So doing shit.
Fat Joe
You know what's crazy is a lot
Interviewer/Host
of, you know, I've been doing this shit a minute, like interviewing and all that. And a lot of the youth, they
Fat Joe
don't really talk like that.
Interviewer/Host
They don't really get out like that.
Fat Joe
Biggest stars in the world. When you start talking to them in, like, interviews, they ain't got no fluidity. They ain't got shit to say. And you taking the bull by the horns, going to the schools and talking to them, that's. That's pretty unique in this day and era.
Interviewer/Host
You know what I'm saying?
Swae Lee
Yeah. I feel. Yeah. It's a lot of mysterious mysteriousness going on.
Interviewer/Host
It costs too much to be covering up.
Fat Joe
Thank you for letting me know. Cause I'll go home.
Interviewer/Host
I look at my. My shit be looking all crazy, like
Fat Joe
the hanger's still on. That
Interviewer/Host
be up like that.
Swae Lee
That fire. That fly.
Fat Joe
It's that elephant skin.
Swae Lee
Oh, God. I say something different. For sure.
Fat Joe
It's the elephant skin.
Swae Lee
That ain't that cow right there. Ain't that cow.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, God. You know, it's crazy. I love fashion, man. And I was.
Fat Joe
I was riding in Miami.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
And I seen this girl, she walked by, she had a.
Fat Joe
This shit in burgundy with the elephant skin.
Interviewer/Host
I said, damn. Since I seen the elephant skin. And I went to the Webster in
Fat Joe
Bell harbor, and I walked in, they had the purple elephant skin. I was like, yo, I need this. It's the elephant.
Swae Lee
Elephant skin.
Fat Joe
I don't know.
Swae Lee
But back say shell. I'm like, what's the numbers on that?
Fat Joe
No, I don't know if it's. It's elephant skin print for sure.
Swae Lee
Rhino or some.
Fat Joe
Don't do that.
Interviewer/Host
Kiss me with that, man. Oh, God.
Jada Kiss
Touching the elephant man, man.
Interviewer/Host
Gotta respect the premise is this. It's a different type of.
Jada Kiss
I like Ellis.
Swae Lee
The material.
Interviewer/Host
Goddamn. Nah, we love this, though.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? We come on here, we get to have a great time, vibe with people, preserve the culture.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Give everybody a place where they could come feel like home, you know?
Interviewer/Host
And always. It's always for the upliftment. It's never with the negative shit. Not the Joe or Jada show. This shit. Winning positivity. And in this world now, it's so
Fat Joe
hard to be positive.
Jada Kiss
Was you and Rich. Y' all went in the studio or you sent them the files?
Interviewer/Host
One of them type of.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Swae Lee
Now, we didn't do the Internet collab on that one. That was. That was in person, like, you know what I'm saying? Broski pulled up on me. We did, like, three other songs, too, so that's fun. Yeah. We actually working on a tape, me and Rich.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Swae Lee
Yeah. Hell, yeah.
Interviewer/Host
That'd be nice.
Jada Kiss
Turned into Coachella, too. How you feel about that?
Swae Lee
Oh, yeah. Coachella coming Up. Boom. Same day, Justin Bieber. Shit finna be a movie. Got a lot of surprises. A lot of homies coming out. You know what I'm saying? I think I got some damn robots finna pull up and dance with me and shit, so it's going to be lit. Oh, God.
Fat Joe
Robots?
Swae Lee
Them humanoid robots? Yeah, they pulling up on the stage with me.
Interviewer/Host
That's. Yeah, that's the AI.
Swae Lee
Y' all going out there now.
Fat Joe
You might pull up.
Jada Kiss
I might pull up.
Fat Joe
You are my daughter going out there. You might pull up.
Jada Kiss
I've never been.
Interviewer/Host
You would rip that down. I ripped that down like, two, three years ago. Caught a body turn that. Oh, God, the paint off.
Fat Joe
That was like, yo, what Coachella? Then I had the crib across the street.
Swae Lee
Dumb villa going crazy.
Fat Joe
Looked like, you know, they had the cactus and all that in the middle of it.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
Nah,
Swae Lee
for real, man. You got to come this year, man.
Jada Kiss
Pull up.
Swae Lee
It's a great year, man. Don't tell me that, man.
Interviewer/Host
Look, he got Justin.
Fat Joe
You catch a body out there? No, I definitely.
Swae Lee
Hey, you're more than welcome to pull up to my set, gang.
Interviewer/Host
All right?
Swae Lee
Two, three songs, whatever.
Interviewer/Host
No cap.
Swae Lee
No cap.
Fat Joe
The first a.
Swae Lee
The first ever like that.
Fat Joe
How many years you been in the. Around a little bit less than me. You right. Yo, let me ask you something, Jada
Swae Lee
Kiss, first ever at Coachella. Legendary facts. That's gonna go.
Fat Joe
Do you get excited? Like, will you pull up?
Interviewer/Host
Just.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Swae Lee
Hell, yeah.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah.
Jada Kiss
I never been there. You know what? Coachella
Interviewer/Host
like a model for a year
Fat Joe
and a half, and that'll go down to her ass. You do that in Coachella, that over,
Swae Lee
that gonna be a moment. It's gonna be a moment for real. Crazy.
Jada Kiss
Nah, that's ill, I think.
Fat Joe
Me personally, fans don't take this no wrong way. I really don't be caring, and I go do my job. I rip it down, legend.
Interviewer/Host
I know what I'm gonna do do, so I'mma rip that all the way.
Fat Joe
God bless you if you put me to perform before you or something, because I'm coming to tear the pain off that. That's all you say.
Swae Lee
He's saying the bar high.
Fat Joe
You know, a lot of rappers, they want to go last or they want to just be careful what you wish for. When I step on that, you give me a that over. And if they give me 15, 20, like, the shorter, the worst, because I just give you a minute of all these chips, you dizzy by the 15th one, I'm out of there. But you know how that go. You know what I'm saying? Some people want to go last. Some people want to. I don't give a. I'm like, I got my check. Oh, y' all got my shit.
Interviewer/Host
Okay, yeah.
Fat Joe
Breaking it down.
Interviewer/Host
The fans, they gonna get that same.
Fat Joe
I give them the same energy.
Interviewer/Host
If it's one fan and it's a hundred thousand fans, yeah, they all getting the same love.
Fat Joe
But yeah, Coachella, that's gonna be nice.
Interviewer/Host
Justin B.
Swae Lee
It's gonna be big. For real. That's the first time soon. That's the first time I'm doing a new music too. So we're gonna run into Coachella.
Interviewer/Host
That's gonna be crazy. Coachella is where you go.
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Jada Kiss
I said, what's up with this? Chipotle.
Swae Lee
Chipotle. Man, that shit was fire. Shout out to Chipotle.
Fat Joe
You got down.
Swae Lee
So we did this whole thing. It was like, buy one, get one free. Show your tattoos, they give you a free burrito. You know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Swae Lee
Then we did. Yeah, it was crazy. Then we did like a. Like, we dropped custom little tattoos. You just add water and drop them for the fans. And it was crazy.
Interviewer/Host
With Chipotle.
Swae Lee
With Chipotle.
Fat Joe
Yeah, man, we need nothing, guaranteed. You gotta send us some preacher. They should have just sent the cause you was coming up here. Chipotle out. Yeah, Chipotle good.
Swae Lee
That fire, it's quality steak, everything.
Fat Joe
Chipotle good as.
Swae Lee
For real.
Jada Kiss
I used to go there a lot.
Fat Joe
You don't go there no more.
Jada Kiss
I went to the doctor's. 185. 185.
Fat Joe
Shooting his shut out right now. Can't eat that pork.
Jada Kiss
185.
Swae Lee
No pork, man. No pork.
Interviewer/Host
Well, I ain't eat pork since I'm 12 years old.
Fat Joe
And you try to find another Puerto Rican dude that ain't eat pork.
Interviewer/Host
That is impossible.
Fat Joe
They sent me to go buy pork today. They're like, yo, my wife is like, kitchen's not. No.
Swae Lee
No funny shit. I live in Miami.
Fat Joe
Go get me some food. I said, you want the pork? You want the swine?
Jada Kiss
Yeah, yeah, come.
Fat Joe
My shit allergic. Even if I put it in the back seat, I can't even be next to the swan. Pork.
Swae Lee
I hate it. So good.
Fat Joe
My daughter made some bacon this morning. I walked by.
Swae Lee
Damn, she was smelling good as a
Interviewer/Host
motherfucker sitting up here.
Swae Lee
This.
Fat Joe
Let me tell you something. I seen Jewish friends. The only thing the Muslims and the Jews agree with is they don't want pork. I don't know how they agreed with that one.
Interviewer/Host
Right?
Fat Joe
So they both don't eat. What? That's crazy. No, I'm saying they don't agree with, but they agree that you should not eat the pork. I walk in the airport, I catch
Interviewer/Host
one of my Jewish friends eating the bacon, egg, and cheese.
Fat Joe
Oh, like, yo, brother, what's up? Jewish? I don't eat this. I'm. Since I'm 12 years old, I go violation, friend. He ordering the sausage, egg, and cheese, and McDonald's to send your blood. You know this shit, pork. The Muslim blood, whatever I call a nigga. Yo, listen, you know this shit? Pork? Nah, this shit ain't pork. Oh, no.
Interviewer/Host
It's pork. And you eating this shit like, you
Fat Joe
know, you gotta stay true to it.
Interviewer/Host
Cipher. God.
Fat Joe
Nobody ever catch me eat pork. Let me tell you something.
Interviewer/Host
I got one friend, he's Jewish, rich, the ball where was at Costa Rica. The man told the man maybe 100 times, we went sat down for breakfast in the airport.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
He told the man, please, no pork. I'm Jewish. Please, no pork, no bacon, no ham. No. The man told this guy 100 times, the man gets a sandwich. He took a bite,
Fat Joe
hit that table. So I see, yo, he said, I told you. You. I told you a hundred times.
Interviewer/Host
The worst thing he could have did, he had a little pork in there. Oh, man.
Fat Joe
And he told the man 100 times that he don't eat pork.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Fat Joe
He wanted to kill this man. I was like, yo, we in the airport. That's the one place you don't want to fight. You don't want to be tough.
Swae Lee
You don't want.
Fat Joe
You got to handle your losses there and keep it moving in the airport because you want to fly. Well, he lost his mind.
Swae Lee
It was that serious.
Interviewer/Host
On, God.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
I can't do it, man. The pork, I don't know.
Fat Joe
But it no pork, right?
Jada Kiss
No pork.
Swae Lee
No pork.
Fat Joe
Chipotle ain't got no pork.
Swae Lee
They do. They got the shredded pork. Yeah. You just gotta resist that.
Interviewer/Host
That's not for the convention.
Swae Lee
Nah, for sure.
Interviewer/Host
Because, you know, they mix that up and they put the pork on the grill.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Chicken.
Interviewer/Host
So you might.
Jada Kiss
Once they mix it up on you, you finish.
Swae Lee
Yeah. When they shredded, you can't really tell. For real.
Fat Joe
I'm so anti pork, I don't even know why I'm anti pork. I'm so anti pork that I get mad when I go to, like, a bodega and the Muslim dude is making a ham and cheese. I'm like, yo, this shit a viol, my man. Like, part of this. What part of the cipher is this? You Muslim and you cutting up a ham and cheesy.
Interviewer/Host
I guess, like, Business is business or you just can't eat it.
Jada Kiss
You can't even supposed to have it in the store if you must.
Swae Lee
Okay, word. Damn.
Interviewer/Host
Hello. That's what I'm talking about.
Jada Kiss
Stafa law.
Interviewer/Host
That's what it's called. Staf Allah.
Fat Joe
Stafa la means you violated.
Interviewer/Host
Damn. That's the haram stuff. Allah stop. Allah is like the 5%.
Jada Kiss
If you pull out a bacon egg right now, that's what I'm gonna hit you with. Stuff. What's the name of the house?
Swae Lee
Same difference.
Jada Kiss
Same intricate, incredible shit.
Fat Joe
How you come up with that title?
Swae Lee
Same difference, same differences. Like it's like a play on versatility kind of in a way.
Jada Kiss
You gotta get a new pillow. Our just going down.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Jada Kiss
Roc Nation, man. We need a new couch, man.
Interviewer/Host
What is it?
Fat Joe
Velvet?
Jada Kiss
We need a little piano.
Fat Joe
Give me a Laura piano.
Swae Lee
Send this John to me.
Interviewer/Host
You can't teach about this.
Swae Lee
Yeah, send this to me. Send it to you look nice in my living room.
Fat Joe
Cardi b sat right there. Send this to me right in that chair.
Jada Kiss
She did a lot of. This is a famous couch. Hold on.
Fat Joe
You want to know what's crazy? You know what's crazy?
Swae Lee
I need this.
Fat Joe
You know what's crazy is Smith, Sony and all. You know when I.
Swae Lee
When I Hollywood put some wax figures on this.
Interviewer/Host
When I used to coach at the Rucker.
Fat Joe
I'm telling you, they had a. What happened? No, I'm playing.
Swae Lee
No, no.
Fat Joe
I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I came.
Swae Lee
I wonder one of them Fat Joe story, though.
Fat Joe
I'm just with you. Hey, you just did it to do it.
Swae Lee
I couldn't. I really wanted to do that though.
Fat Joe
Listen, let me tell you, hear me with that masala. I have no clue why I caught the flag. I was gonna tell you an innocent story.
Swae Lee
Yeah, I'm around. I really
Jada Kiss
not. You gave the flag.
Fat Joe
I made him throw a flag at the locks of that. He want to throw it at him. I was like, throw it, throw it. You know, he deserves it. He was like, can he do it? Let me tell you something. When I used to be at the Rucker.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
They had this announcer, Hannibal. Boy, boy, boy, boy. Hannibal. So Hannibal, you know when Jay Z
Interviewer/Host
had a team, he used to bring Beyonce there.
Fat Joe
So one time Beyonce must have said
Interviewer/Host
hi to him or whatever.
Fat Joe
But he forever lifetime gambler. He start every game. Yeah, boy boy. It's Hannibal. The most electrifying one. You see this cheek right here? This is where Beyonce gave me the kiss at on my Cheek, boy. Boy, that's right, brother. This, yo. That was his claim to fame till he didn't announce a game.
Jada Kiss
It's the people that won't ever watch their face again if they get a kiss from Beyonce.
Swae Lee
That's a fact. That's a flex, though. Here's a dirt if it's confirmed. That's a flex, though.
Fat Joe
Nah, but that's a hello, you know. It's a hello. She with her husband. I'm just saying, the man ain't never let that go. That was like, you know, I'm loving it. You know, that was his. That was his. Just do it. His was his logo. That was his Nike swoosh. We got new music to hear.
Jada Kiss
You gonna play something?
Fat Joe
No. Sway me.
Swae Lee
Oh, you got some. Oh, I brought the vibes, for sure.
Interviewer/Host
Nah, we need the vibe.
Jada Kiss
Line it up.
Swae Lee
I don't come empty handed, man.
Jada Kiss
That's what I'm talking about, baby.
Swae Lee
Okay, what are we playing? Fresh Montana. I feel like. Yeah, we in New York, man.
Interviewer/Host
We gotta.
Swae Lee
Yeah, we gotta play this. French Montana.
Interviewer/Host
French Montana. Shout out.
Swae Lee
Jungle Boy Montana, man, make sure you crank it. This junk called Suitcase. Suitcase for real, featuring Fresh Montana right here, man.
Jada Kiss
Same difference.
Swae Lee
Same, same, Same.
Jada Kiss
Brand new April 3 streaming now.
Swae Lee
Same different platform.
Fat Joe
Biggest in the same gang.
Jada Kiss
You know what it is? Home runs,
Swae Lee
back of the car. Then I'm gonna go get the ball.
Jada Kiss
Hit it again. His shit is about a concession sting.
Fat Joe
You ready?
Jada Kiss
It sound like is out of here. Ready.
French Montana
You going. Need another suitcase.
Jada Kiss
Out of here.
French Montana
Really got you saying crazy things.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
French Montana
Feet kicked up at my vacation place and all your worries gone Give it up to me Close the door and make your dreams come true Friends left the club around too. You too. You two took too long. I was down to be the man in the middle Ain't no love one I can give you FOMO in the back of the spinner Other phone on my hip when I hit it yeah, I'll be back on if I'm Trigger, Trigger, fomo Let's close when the nigga start tipping let's close when a start tipping in the smoke she build few kisses let's roll to the lamps of the building Hope and square worth it step fight so long sh r me so fast Need a ticket I would travel to the bag Go and get it rich she don't ride in a limo I'll be shopping when I land in the city Walk through Really got paper like I printed she told you hands off his off limits. You gonna need another suitcase. Yo, Maybe thinking like a few days
Fat Joe
that's right.
French Montana
Really got you saying crazy things. Feet kicked up at my vacation place and all your worries go on there
Background Vocalist/Chorus
yeah, sweet sweatsuits go y' all bag in the gold medallion Me and Shorty getting freaky in the virgin ale by the tail if you keep a trip account is on the phone. Lb suitcases got a bunch of them three quarter mink lymph like a comforter might blow a 50 if a don't know me Red Rory Glass in a Ric Flair rolling everything New seasons for no reason Jungle boys, Montana sway to
French Montana
eat, yo, maybe thinking like a few days really got you saying crazy things like the new wave you're the type that I would be put away Feet kicked up at my vacation place and all your worries don't go. Like a.
Jada Kiss
Yeah, you doing that at Coachella.
Swae Lee
I'mma see what they really with before I really like.
Fat Joe
I'mma tell you what's crazy.
Interviewer/Host
You be a problem for me if I owned your record label.
Fat Joe
Because every record I hear from you, I think it's a hit. Sound like I blow the whole bag, bro. I be like, yo, that's a hit, but I'll be spending my life savings on them shits. Like, run it up. Oh, yeah, let's get that. I never heard a song that I don't say it.
Swae Lee
I appreciate that.
Jada Kiss
Yeah, he don't got no album feelings.
Swae Lee
Yeah, I don't do the side song.
Jada Kiss
You got old fucking Smith D on your. I'm telling you, straight nuclear missiles.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Nah, his shit crazy, dude.
Interviewer/Host
His. Thank you, bro.
Jada Kiss
Thank you.
Fat Joe
His crazy. That record right there was. That was perfect. And you and French, you already got that chemistry.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
You know, they know them voices, you know, together got that.
Swae Lee
Yeah, they so different, but they contrast well, you know? Like, why, bro?
Interviewer/Host
Yeah, that's hard.
Fat Joe
That's hard.
Swae Lee
Santa. Jungle Boys, man. Shout out Montana, he doing.
Fat Joe
So you got Montana on there. You got Janae Aiko.
Swae Lee
Post Malone.
Interviewer/Host
Post Malone. Y' all just felt like making a gigantic record, right?
Fat Joe
To play the guitar and all that.
Swae Lee
Oh, God, he might slam that. Whatever.
Fat Joe
Like that Post Malone, that's another one.
Interviewer/Host
He's like, that's that right there, cuz. He had them juicy, okay?
Fat Joe
Soon as I heard them Juicy Jones, I said, he got Jaden.
Swae Lee
Jaden was like, oh, yeah, that juicy sample.
Interviewer/Host
Crazy, juicy.
Fat Joe
Look at him. The minute and the beat was, who did that? Mike Will that beat. Damn.
Swae Lee
I don't even who that beat, man.
Fat Joe
Whoever played that homies, bro, I just
Swae Lee
be knowing, like, random Producers like the music on the.
Fat Joe
On the back. That was, like, crazy. That was crazy.
Swae Lee
Thank you, bro. Oh, my boy Swan.
Jada Kiss
No doubt.
Fat Joe
Nah, that beat was legend.
Interviewer/Host
What was that? Sample synthesizer.
Swae Lee
That was crazy.
Interviewer/Host
I was listening to that. I said, damn, they did, like, some baby face.
Swae Lee
Yeah, they freaked that, you know, because.
Fat Joe
Would you call that R B?
Swae Lee
Oh, I call that kind of like R and B pop. Like, some. I don't even know. Like, it's like. It's like a fine line.
Interviewer/Host
I don't really know. Yeah, because kind of pop, like, to
Fat Joe
me, it's like, you know, everybody always complain.
Swae Lee
For real. Because it got that little bounce.
Interviewer/Host
No, that shit incredible.
Fat Joe
But the shit is like, you know, everybody complained. Well, everybody in my age group complained
Interviewer/Host
that we ain't got, like, a Brandi Monica we ain't got.
Fat Joe
But, you know, y' all putting shit out. You know, Kalani with that folded.
Swae Lee
Folded was crazy.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? That's.
Interviewer/Host
That was real R B. Whatever, you know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
This shit right here sound like a joint, too.
Interviewer/Host
It sound like a big boy, you know what I mean?
Fat Joe
So it's like, you know, y' all coming with shit, you know, I think I. You know, we so used to begging
Interviewer/Host
the girls on our records. You know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
Yeah, I'll buy you everything.
Interviewer/Host
Give me one.
Fat Joe
Well, you kind of said that right there with, you gonna need another suit. Okay. That means you buying that. You're about to take a shopping, huh?
Swae Lee
So she got some new.
Fat Joe
She about to get some new. So you buying still? Y'.
Swae Lee
All.
Fat Joe
Still. They kept that same day. Same different. Different slang. He buying some out there, huh?
Swae Lee
I appreciate that, bro.
Fat Joe
Yeah, man. So what's tour like?
Interviewer/Host
You.
Fat Joe
You going on tour to support this thing right here or.
Swae Lee
Definitely. Definitely going on some tours. We got. We got one in the works right now. We just lining up dates on, but that's. What. Another artist. But definitely one specific for.
Interviewer/Host
Same difference for sure, you know what I'm saying? And what could you say about the ups and downs of the music business? Cause, you know, some days you're on top, some days you lukewarm.
Swae Lee
For me, I just think, like, everybody had a time, you know what I'm saying? It's like a cycle. Like, just go around. Everybody had a time, you know what I'm saying? Catch a moment, keep it rocking. Go back to the drawing boards. Just be ready when it come back to you. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't get comfortable and just. Yeah, just Wait for your time. For real? For real.
Fat Joe
Many artists have had to fight the adversity.
Interviewer/Host
You know, you could be on top of the world.
Fat Joe
Oh yeah, come back your shit, alright, they sleeping on you, then you gotta come back with a Frisbee.
Interviewer/Host
Get the motherfuckers on their ass.
Swae Lee
For real.
Fat Joe
Yeah, that's, you know, that's how I
Interviewer/Host
judge artists personally, right?
Fat Joe
Like I seen some artists that I was like, I don't know if this person got it. You know, I always say to make
Interviewer/Host
a hit record, just one hit record is a miracle.
Swae Lee
Cause it could be when you put it down, it goes clean over the heads for sure.
Fat Joe
No, no, I'm just saying. Actually, a one hit wonder is better than being on your couch trying to make music for 20 years and never having a hit.
Interviewer/Host
One hit wonder.
Fat Joe
But imagine the guys that keep making those hits. Those guys and girls are exceptional. When I see that, that's when I go, all right, this person trying to stick. You know how many artists I've seen come? And then when they come the second or third time with another one, I'd be like, oh, they want, they want to stick around the here to stay. I get used to this.
Jada Kiss
That's how I felt about him. Big Papi Ortiz, he came in and put shits over there. Every, every time he got up, I said, oh, this thing is way oh God.
Swae Lee
Dug that foot in the ground.
Jada Kiss
Take some real estate in this because
Fat Joe
you know, some people, they just passing
Jada Kiss
through, they come for a cup of green tea.
Fat Joe
Green tea. Before you know it, the sensation is gone. Had a pub near you, right?
Swae Lee
Right.
Fat Joe
They had a pub near you. None of that.
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Fat Joe
Oh, no.
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Fat Joe
You know, sometimes, you ever been to like a jazz joint? Not saying jazz, but I've been to like little restaurants where a guy or
Interviewer/Host
a girl, they sing like Whitney Houston.
Fat Joe
And you sitting there and you wondering, yo, what happened? Why this young lady ain't the biggest in the world?
Jada Kiss
Why this guy know the right people? And it wasn't the moment. People take getting on and making it for granted. It's not that. Everybody can do it. Everybody do it.
Fat Joe
Yeah. There's different elements to it. But what I do know is that people got to like you.
Swae Lee
They gotta like each other.
Fat Joe
I met so many talented people that never succeeded, and I can't give you the reason why. Because they write hits for everybody else. Yeah, I know. Listen. Ooh.
Interviewer/Host
I can't do that.
Fat Joe
I can't do that because it's not fair to them. But. Nah, I can't do that. But that's still.
Jada Kiss
If you write hits for people and you get the. You're just doing your money and all that, and you just want to be lit. I think you a bird for them.
Fat Joe
Well, they all want to be lit. So anybody who writes smash hits for everybody.
Jada Kiss
Anybody talk.
Interviewer/Host
Okay.
Jada Kiss
Would you rather write smash hits and receive what you supposed to receive or get the hits writ for you and be lit and be you? You?
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Fat Joe
No, I'm with you. But what I'm saying to you is, unfortunately, I watch.
Jada Kiss
Want to be lit.
Swae Lee
Yeah. Front line.
Fat Joe
I watch guys who wrote albums for guys that sold 10, 20 million with
Interviewer/Host
that album, and they filthy rich, and then they try to do their own album. And when you hear it, it's so fire.
Fat Joe
Right? And then you, like the face.
Swae Lee
Don't understand the looks, don't like.
Fat Joe
Beyonce would have sung that. If Usher would have sung that record, if this one would have diss. Like, you know, they just finished coming from giving out the biggest hits in the world. Then they do their own album. They like, all right, it's time for my shit. Can't blame them for wanting to be a star. The album's incredible, too.
Jada Kiss
Right.
Fat Joe
But it don't go.
Swae Lee
Put that battery in their back.
Jada Kiss
You just. You're a football star with a helmet on. Still a star.
Swae Lee
Yeah. They don't see your face.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
That's why he top five now. He got that right.
Jada Kiss
He just want to be seen.
Interviewer/Host
You just want to be seen.
Swae Lee
They know it's you. Yeah.
Fat Joe
That's how I feel. People gotta like you.
Interviewer/Host
That's just the bottom line.
Fat Joe
That's. That's how I feel about.
Interviewer/Host
And me, I studied game. It took me a long time to understand that. Like, I'd be sitting there and, you
Fat Joe
know, I got friends that are writers that could write big hits and all that, and they want to be artists.
Interviewer/Host
And to me, the music's incredible.
Fat Joe
These guys are handsome.
Interviewer/Host
These women are beautiful.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
And for some reason, they just don't connect, you know? And that's crazy.
Fat Joe
You know Sometimes to me, I don't know. I guess we all up on this
Interviewer/Host
couch because we think we know music.
Fat Joe
Or sometimes I hear records or I see artists that I know for a fact.
Interviewer/Host
I'd be like, oh, no, she's out of here.
Fat Joe
This guy's out of here. And then it don't go.
Interviewer/Host
And I'm confused because I'm like, for sure that was supposed to be out of here.
Fat Joe
I think it's all God's doing. I think it's all. Once again, I just. It all came back to, people gotta like you. I always use Cardi B. As an example, but people thought she
Interviewer/Host
was funny and they liked her before they ever knew she was ever gonna
Fat Joe
put out a record.
Swae Lee
Facts.
Fat Joe
And then she put out of here the Bodak yellow. You like, damn.
Interviewer/Host
On top of that,
Fat Joe
it's on, you know, and that's understandable. That's what I. That. That, you know, if there's any artists out there looking, you gotta find a
Interviewer/Host
way to get that connection with the people. And I think that's the most priceless thing, you know, for us. We take it for granted. You think you a hit maker?
Fat Joe
You think you a hit maker?
Liberty Mutual Spokesperson's Partner
You.
Interviewer/Host
Nah, it's the people.
Jada Kiss
I am a hitman.
Fat Joe
Yeah, but somebody gotta like your hit. And so what I'm saying to you is, when you go outside, okay. But when you walk out in the stadium and they.
Interviewer/Host
That's the Lord.
Fat Joe
That's the blessing.
Interviewer/Host
That's the Lord.
Fat Joe
That's the blessing. Because some people got music like that.
Jada Kiss
Crickets.
Fat Joe
Some people got music like that and cricket mania.
Swae Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? That Cricket mania.
Swae Lee
Damn, that's cold.
Fat Joe
I learned that one day. One day I go, I go. I'm performing last year in Ohio. And listen, my daughter's way more into Swae Lee's music than Fat Joe. Like, I don't even think she's a fan, Pete. Oh, I don't know how to explain. She like, you know, the Travis, all the young popping shit.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Fat Joe
She come in Ohio to my show. She got her girlfriend who go to college, her boyfriend.
Interviewer/Host
They come to my show, and somehow the pink got tore off the wall. Fat Joe went up in there, caught that body legend, though.
Fat Joe
30,000.
Interviewer/Host
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I think it was God assisted me that day so I could look like a hero. I come back after to my daughter,
Swae Lee
I'm like, super dad, for real.
Interviewer/Host
All right.
Fat Joe
You think your father whack. Like I'm tearing this shit down.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? But it Is what it is. Some, you know, people gotta like you.
Swae Lee
Definitely.
Fat Joe
That's the end of the day and that. And that's hard. You gotta keep, you know, people don't understand. You gotta keep working on that until they get that energy and they really with you like that. Because this ain't an overnight thing. Sometimes it is. And you be like, gold all in my watch. Don't believe me Just watch. Don't believe.
Swae Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
Shout out to my man Trinidad James. I love him. I love him. That's one of the greatest songs of all time.
Jada Kiss
Is important to the.
Fat Joe
I love Trinity James very.
Jada Kiss
He knows mad about hip hop fashion game.
Fat Joe
Tell you so. I remember when that song was number one. I walked up in the club, I felt like, you know, where's that at? New Orleans, where you walk and they got the band behind you.
Swae Lee
Oh, yeah.
Fat Joe
I walked in there where they got the trumpets and all that. I walked up in the club one day that I was. I see a. That gold all in my watch.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Don't believe me? Just watch. I was walking in that, like. I thought that song was about me. You fucking kidding me? That shit. Shout out Trinidad James.
Interviewer/Host
That's my brother, Smooth. Smooth.
Fat Joe
So what we looking for? So you said Rich, the kid, you rocking with him, you know what I'm saying?
Jada Kiss
We got out. Same difference as that.
Swae Lee
Same difference. I'm finished streaming right now.
Jada Kiss
We gonna drop another. You gonna drop another?
Swae Lee
Yeah, I'm gonna drop the one with Janae. Same day as the album dropped.
Jada Kiss
So that's Get Ready, that's the G.
Swae Lee
That's the three piece combo. I dropped the first. The kid and Janae, you know what I'm saying? Hit him in the stomach.
Interviewer/Host
Nah, that's disrespect. Janae, she ain't never whacked either.
Swae Lee
She's so cold.
Interviewer/Host
Special girl. Everybody loves her. Her fan bases. He's almost like Wu Tang.
Swae Lee
Ten toes, for sure.
Interviewer/Host
Her fan base is like a cult, bro.
Swae Lee
I went to one of our shows, bro. It was straight girls, bro. 20,000, 30,000 girls.
Interviewer/Host
I'm looking like this shit crazy, like.
Fat Joe
You know what's crazy is I had
Interviewer/Host
that way old, little bit older than me, a tad bit older than me.
Jada Kiss
Legends.
Interviewer/Host
I had like three or four shows, concerts with salt and pepper.
Fat Joe
It was nobody a Fat Joe fan.
Interviewer/Host
And none of them shows, the Hustle was just girls. It was no dudes with razor blades in their mouth and army jackets, none of that shit. I look out there, all the girls out here, this is.
Swae Lee
That's a good demographic. That's a good demographic.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, that's the greatest demographic for sure.
Fat Joe
I think my fans are more guys, though. I got some. I got girl hits.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Fat Joe
But I think my demographic is more dudes.
Interviewer/Host
In fact, I know my demographic is more dudes. I remember when I first saw a girl at my show, I couldn't believe,
Fat Joe
like, the first five years. First five years I had with army jackets, razor they. While I'm performing, they spitting out razor blades.
Swae Lee
Oh.
Fat Joe
Looking at me hard as hell.
Interviewer/Host
Oh, yeah.
Fat Joe
Female at the show. This was crazy.
Jada Kiss
They pay for tickets. Females pay tickets.
Fat Joe
Like you. When's the first time you have female fans? Like, she was a model for a
Interviewer/Host
year and a half.
Fat Joe
That's. That's when you sort of did fall before that. So. Locks everywhere. Hardcore hip hop. You had girls at your show? Be honest.
Interviewer/Host
Yes.
Fat Joe
Oh, no, I didn't have that.
Jada Kiss
I had hardcore hip hop.
Fat Joe
I had the artists.
Swae Lee
Y' all had the original groupies, Like.
Fat Joe
Yeah, no, no, we had the original gangsters at our show. They was pulling up with a machine because I had a. With a machine gun under his wheelchair. Y' all talking about.
Swae Lee
Wait, hold on.
Fat Joe
Let me use the bathroom. Yo, let me tell you something.
Jada Kiss
He gotta use the. Let him use the bathroom, man. Sky Rizzy.
Fat Joe
Young Sky Rizzy. Yo, they got the young Sky.
Jada Kiss
Slide it over.
Fat Joe
Let me explain. Study. You broke this man right here. Every time I take an old man piss, the man says, sky Rizzy. That's the medicine. On the commercial, the Skyrizer. One day, I looked. I looked the up. That don't got nothing to do with piston or nothing like that. I said, yo, this been calling for like, a year.
Swae Lee
That ain't got the prostate. What is it?
Fat Joe
Oh, yeah, prostate. That's. Everybody got to be careful.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I'm saying, it's a tough time in life. Men's Health.
Swae Lee
What does Skyrizzy do?
Fat Joe
Skyrizzy is awesome.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
It don't got nothing to do with pissing, but let me. Or trim fire. Yo, you've seen that one.
Interviewer/Host
That's the latest one. They pushing that.
Fat Joe
I mean, when you, like me and you watch CNN and all that, you had a certain age.
Interviewer/Host
They pushing medicine.
Fat Joe
The number one. I'm surprised. Yo, James, why we ain't got to trim fire or Skyrizzi or Ozempic. We go be some.
Interviewer/Host
On this show.
Fat Joe
We need some kind of medicine. They. They. They on break time. They paying the bills.
Jada Kiss
Oh, yeah.
Fat Joe
Now, listen, my brother. Men's health. That 1800 good as, huh? Tell us your AA.
Swae Lee
I ain't gonna lie.
Interviewer/Host
I'm sipping.
Swae Lee
I'm sipping. Slow, but yeah. Busting.
Fat Joe
Tell us about you teaming up with the magazine.
Swae Lee
Men's Health magazine. We did a little workout. Yeah, I was just showing them a couple of my workouts, showing them how to achieve, you know, Sway Lee body.
Fat Joe
Yeah, listen, I sell, like, one copy. If I do that shit, they be like. And body of 20, 26.
Interviewer/Host
Fat Joe's men's Health.
Swae Lee
I'm right behind you. I'm only selling seven copies, gang.
Fat Joe
Yo, Kiss. You could do a Men's Health.
Jada Kiss
You could do.
Swae Lee
It is tough. It's tough. For real.
Jada Kiss
How important is working out? What kind of working out you do?
Swae Lee
I ain't a lot working out right now. It's pretty important. I ain't going to lie, because I'm trying to get right for Coachella and so trying to shock the world when I take my shirt off and trying to have.
Fat Joe
Are you trying to do all that out there?
Swae Lee
Rip my shirt? You know what I'm saying?
Interviewer/Host
Let me tell you something. My prime time, okay?
Fat Joe
In my prom. In my prom, Fat Joe swine.
Swae Lee
Yeah.
Interviewer/Host
I work out two, three times a day.
Fat Joe
There's no lie. Fat Joe was like this damn. Fat Joe did a lot of working out. Picking up tires, all that.
Interviewer/Host
I never had one muscle in my life.
Fat Joe
I went to jail. These motherfuckers doing the ball shitty, dude. They used to try to, like. Come on, Joe. Like, the whole fucking jail was. I was prime time. I wake up, I run, I play handball. I'm on top of my shit, living. Come on, Joe, you could do it. And I'll be like, I can't do.
Jada Kiss
Damn.
Fat Joe
I can't get it. I can't get a muscle. I don't know. I tried. I mean, they used to tell me, I think.
Jada Kiss
I think we're gonna have to do a show in the gym.
Fat Joe
I can't do it.
Jada Kiss
We're gonna have to do a gym show, bro.
Fat Joe
I can't get a muscle. Let me tell you something. I mean, they used to come up
Jada Kiss
to me, gonna help you get ready
Fat Joe
and tell me, yo, Joe, you know, I had guys come up to me.
Interviewer/Host
Be like six months, six packs. Yeah, but they talking with the steroids and all that. Yeah, I wasn't ready to do all that. I'm saying, go mad. Facial hair.
Jada Kiss
As soon as you don't take it,
Fat Joe
you7, you deflate it.
Swae Lee
Sagging.
Fat Joe
Yeah, that's how that work.
Jada Kiss
Then you're gonna be seven Fat Joes, man.
Fat Joe
My security, I look at his phone that be six pack. I'll be like, yo, what happened, son? Like, yo, with this right here.
Interviewer/Host
Was like, yo, it's a long time ago. Like this.
Fat Joe
He was on that, y'.
Interviewer/Host
All.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? Hit you with that, y'. All. Right there. That's it. I never wanted to do that.
Swae Lee
Yeah, now that's it.
Jada Kiss
Same day.
Swae Lee
Catch up to you. Catch up to you for sure.
Jada Kiss
Same difference. Every platform we got flammable. We got don't even call, and we got that. No one coming with you.
Swae Lee
Yeah. 16 songs, 16 vibes, 16 flavor for every neighbor.
Fat Joe
I can't wait, man. I want to download that album. Being that I'm a journalist, might see me at Coachella. Send us some. Yo, you might be going to Coachella. If you know I'm going, then you let me.
Swae Lee
Up, let me know how many you need them.
Fat Joe
Bring Azzy and Jaywan with the little on golf carts. You've been there, right? They got the golf carts. They'll treat you special. Sometime when you go up, you know you off that sky. Rizzy. The get us the golf course. This ain't that.
Jada Kiss
That ain't this cracking. Kiss goddamn noise for sway lay, baby.
French Montana
Crack slightly.
Swae Lee
Same difference, you know what I'm saying?
Podcast Episode Summary
Podcast: Joe and Jada
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jadakiss
Guest: Swae Lee
Date: April 9, 2026
Episode Title: Swae Lee talks ‘Same Difference,’ Rae Sremmurd, “Unforgettable” & Coachella Plans
This episode features a lively and in-depth conversation with Swae Lee, looking back on his journey from Mississippi basement studios to global stardom with Rae Sremmurd and as a solo artist. The hosts and Swae Lee delve into his new solo project, “Same Difference,” the story behind hits like “Unforgettable,” his evolving artistry, upcoming Coachella set, and collaborations with artists like French Montana, Post Malone, and Jhené Aiko. Throughout, Fat Joe and Jadakiss reflect on the grind of the music industry, sharing humorous banter and memorable stories.
On early hustle:
On industry grind/reality:
On Miami:
On “Unforgettable” song drama:
On connecting with fans:
On female fanbases:
On career cycles:
On fitness:
The conversation is candid and irreverent, switching between wise industry reflections, storytelling, and comic asides about culture, food, fitness, and fame. The trio’s chemistry makes the episode feel like a roundtable among friends, supportive but unfiltered.
**“Same Difference” is out now, featuring star collaborations and Swae Lee’s genre-bending sound. Swae Lee’s Coachella set is set to be a spectacle, possibly with robot dancers and high-profile guests.
Fat Joe and Jadakiss wrap with mutual props and more laughs, promising to see each other in Miami, the gym—or maybe at the next historic performance.**
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