The Real Report - DJ Vlad defends his viral tweets, why streaming is becoming obsolete, paying for interviews, LaRussell on Lil Wayne & top 5 NBA G.O.A.T.s

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Joe and Jada - "The Real Report"

Episode: DJ Vlad Defends His Viral Tweets, Why Streaming Is Becoming Obsolete, Paying for Interviews, LaRussell on Lil Wayne & Top 5 NBA G.O.A.T.s
Date: February 18, 2026
Hosts: Fat Joe and Jadakiss (with co-hosts Light The Barber & Murder Mike)
Guest: DJ Vlad (Vlad TV)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Joe and Jada hand the mics to Light The Barber and Murder Mike for an in-depth conversation with Vlad (of VladTV). The trio dives straight into the week's viral hip-hop debates, touching on viral trolling, conspiracy theories in hip hop, the economics of the streaming industry, Vlad's controversial interview practices, and the ever-contentious NBA G.O.A.T. debate. Notable discussions center on Vlad’s viral Roc Nation conspiracy tweet, the future of streaming services, paying guests for interviews, LaRussell’s Lil Wayne comments, and what makes a true NBA legend.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. DJ Vlad's Viral Roc Nation Conspiracy Tweet

• Vlad discusses the intent and aftermath behind his tweet listing all the wildest conspiracy theories about the Tory Lanez/Megan Thee Stallion case and Roc Nation.
• Vlad's Take: He wanted to highlight the absurdity of online conspiracies and tested how quickly “the dumbest stuff goes viral.”
  • “I was trying to prove whatever stupidity you put out there, there’s going to be millions of people that eat it up. And I was right. …Millions of people ate it up.” (Vlad, 07:56)
• The tweet—which sarcastically claimed everything from Jay Z paying off judges to orchestrating stabbings—got over 13–14 million impressions, and likely 100 million in aggregate.
  • “No matter how stupid it is… there’s gonna be someone that eats it up.” (Vlad, 07:56)

2. Hip-Hop Conspiracies and Culture

• The hosts reminisce about the DVD era and the unique role of hip hop media in spreading, debunking, or fueling conspiracies.
• Vlad relates how, despite logic and evidence (e.g. Tupac murder theories), people crave a deeper, often illogical explanation.
  • “AI knows sarcasm better than human beings. …Isn’t that kind of sad?” (Vlad, 10:09)
• Discussion touches on the global power of hip hop to break color and culture barriers.

3. The Evolution and Economics of Streaming

• The crew analyzes Jimmy Iovine’s recent assertion that streaming platforms like Spotify may become obsolete, as the disconnect between artists and consumers persists.
  • “Spotify is bigger than all the record labels put together…The labels only get a small percentage of the overall pie.” (Vlad, 22:04)
• Artists like Taylor Swift and Drake reap disproportionate rewards; indie artists barely earn anything.
• Exclusive album drops on platforms like Tidal (“exclusives are dead”) no longer make financial sense due to charting and exposure needs.
• “People care about the perception more so than the money. The fame becomes more important [because] a lot of the real money comes from touring.” (Vlad, 25:10)
• Vlad breaks down his own business: “YouTube accounts [for] 90% of our revenue. …When people high up talk, you should listen.” (27:58)

4. Interview Practices & Paying for Guests

• Vlad openly discusses paying guests—over a million dollars total—and why this was a media game-changer, especially during the pandemic.
  • “Before I started doing it, this was considered a no-no in the media game… Now people support themselves through paid interviews.” (Vlad, 37:52)
• He gives examples of turning favors into business, helping regular guests in tough times, and how this created opportunities for others to launch their own media careers.
• Candid breakdown on rejecting bad deals (e.g. Patreon) and why “every deal… has to make sense for your business.”

5. Advice for Podcasters & Dealing with Hate

• Vlad stresses the importance of authenticity and longevity in podcasting.
  • “Everyone tries to emulate other people and it doesn’t work. You gotta go a long time… without making any real money.” (33:05)
• Preparation for lean times and a willingness to build over years, not months, is crucial for success.
  • “VladTV started in 2008… No days off, no real vacations… The deal is not going to stay if the numbers don’t coincide with the money.” (34:04)

6. Sports & Culture: Michael Jordan Video and NBA G.O.A.T.s

• The hosts debate Michael Jordan’s recent controversial video, online cancel culture, and the double standards for icons.
  • “If it was somebody else—yeah, it looks wild. But it’s Jordan. …People gonna forget about it in a couple of days.” (Light The Barber, 54:21)
• Vlad sees it as a non-cancelable moment, but notes “if some other shit comes out, they gonna go back to this video.”
• Vlad’s Top 5 NBA G.O.A.T.s:
  “Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, AI, and LeBron.” (Vlad, 58:33)
• Explores generational bias in sports fandom and why All-Star contests—like the dunk contest—don’t see icons like LeBron or current stars participate.

7. Miscellaneous: LaRussell’s Lil Wayne Comments

• LaRussell said Wayne “never really said nothing” (in the sense of deep substance); Vlad posits this was likely strategic trolling aiming to generate conversation.
  • “I think it was calculated. …By saying stuff like that, here we are talking about it.” (Vlad, 49:48)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (by Timestamp)

• On the Tory Lanez Conspiracy Tweet:
  “I was not hacked, man. I was trying to prove a point… whatever stupidity you put out there, there’s going to be millions of people that eat it up. And I was right.”
  — Vlad (07:56)

• On Culture Vulture Accusations:
  “Every white person in hip hop is called that at some point. …I’m fine with being called that. …But, you know, at the end of the day, we have to use our common sense.”
  — Vlad (09:00)

• On the Uniqueness of Hip Hop:
  “There is no color barrier on music… it breaks every barrier because there’s some people that don’t even understand English, that listen to music.”
  — Light The Barber (12:52)

• On YouTube vs. Other Platforms:
  “YouTube accounts like 90% of our revenue…. If you’re a business trying to make money off your content, there’s nothing like YouTube.”
  — Vlad (27:59)

• On Interviewing Tony Yayo:
  “The plan was just to do one interview… as it so happens… there was a little bit of tense energy between us… that ‘shut the up’ came from the first interview… but it became a meme… and then it became a mutually profitable relationship.”
  — Vlad (35:50–37:04)

• On Paying for Interviews:
  “I paid out over a million dollars to guests… Before I started doing it, this was considered a no-no in the media game… Now people support themselves through paid interviews.”
  — Vlad (37:52)

• On Michael Jordan’s G.O.A.T. Status and the Controversial Video:
  “The video was crazy, but it’s Michael Jordan, so people gonna forget about it in a couple of days because it’s Michael Jordan.”
  — Light The Barber (54:21) “I don’t think he’s really going to get canceled like this because… he’s obviously around a ton of people… but if it was a hidden video, absolutely, he’d be canceled.”
  — Vlad (56:40)

• Vlad’s Top 5 NBA G.O.A.T.s:
  “Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, AI, and LeBron.”
  — Vlad (58:33) “Jordan, Kobe, LeBron [in that order]. …When everything’s on the line and that player has to hold the whole team down, I think that’s the order.”
  — Vlad (59:32)

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Important Timestamps

• Vlad explains “trolling” tweet’s purpose: 06:52–08:20
• Talking “culture vulture” accusations: 08:41–10:30
• Music/hip hop breaking color barriers: 11:12–12:52
• Streaming industry insights & future: 22:04–27:58
• Discussion: paying for interviews: 37:52–39:31
• Advice for aspiring podcasters: 32:45–35:29
• Breakdown: Top 5 NBA G.O.A.T.s: 58:29–59:32

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Tone and Language

The discussion blends nostalgia, inside-industry wisdom, candid street-level banter, and biting humor. The hosts (Light and Murder) keep it raw and relatable, while Vlad is detailed and direct—often playing the straight man amidst the jokes but also openly self-aware about his reputation.

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For Listeners Who Missed It…

This episode is an unfiltered look into hip-hop media, the economics of content, viral culture, sports debates, and the art of riding out the hate. From pulling back the curtain on big-money podcast deals to breaking myths about the streaming industry and hip-hop’s supposed “culture vultures,” it’s packed with lessons, laughs, and quotables for music heads, business hustlers, and fans of hip hop storytelling.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Murder Mike]

Vlad, you know what I want to know? Why do you interview Tony Yayo so much?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Vlad, he didn't get stabbed.

[Light The Barber]

Vlad, shut the. Up with that.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Okay.

[Light The Barber]

So you missed the viral. You missed the viral, right? Now tell me how many views you did when you put out this story about Tory Lanez and Roc Nation. Because you said a lot of crazy things. And I don't want to tell people what you told me. I want you to tell the people.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

It's at about, I don't know, 13, 14 million impressions on that one tweet. Then if you count all the other media outlets that picked it up and the TikToks and, you know, the Instagrams and the other Twitter accounts, probably 100 million easy.

[Light The Barber]

Wow. Yeah. So what made you wake up, right, Uncle Murder? We was thinking, what made him wake up and want to troll today? Cause it seemed like, is it trolling or what is it? What is it to you, Murder?

[Murder Mike]

It seem like Vlad is trolling. I think you trolling. Cause I'm like, this can't be true. I don't see these guys paying him to do all of these things. But it's everywhere right now. So everybody want to know. And I'm glad you gave us the exclusive interview and all that, Vlad.

[Light The Barber]

So tell us. Cause I thought you was hacked. I said, vlad gotta be hacked or Vlad is trolling. So get into the story with Roc Nation and Tory Lanez, the biggest thing on the Internet. Let's get into it on the real report.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

All right, so I've been talking about the Tory Lanez Megan situation right after it happened. And as the information came out and as Megan said that I'm gonna testify, I've quoted you a lot. If you have someone that you shoot and they get on the stand and say, you shot me, right? And this woman on top of that, there is a very slim chance you will Beat that in trial, you might as well just plead out. So as they're going back and forth, he's antagonizing her and, you know, she's responding and everything else like that. I started saying in my interviews, tory's going to jail. And I was like, oh, you're a hater, whatever. And I'm like, look, based on what I see, he's going to go to jail. He DM me, you know, trying to figure out what I know. Calls me a cop, whatever else. That's whatever, man.

[Light The Barber]

I'm Tory Lanez. DM'd you and called you a cop. I never knew this. Yeah, yeah, he did that.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

That's whatever. I don't care about that. I think Tory Lanez is a dope artist.

[Light The Barber]

Definitely.

[Murder Mike]

I've been called all type of names. What was that? I said, you've been called all type of names.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

All types of names. All types of names.

[Murder Mike]

I agree.

[Light The Barber]

I. I agree. Vlad is my friend, though. I, you know, Vlad is my friend. He's my guy. He helped me with a lot of stuff with. With learning about this podcast thing. And he never really hated on anybody from what I see now. Does he pick on people sometimes he doesn't know he does murder, you know, and it's cool. And this time, you're picking on Roc Nation and Tory Lanez. Well, not Tory Lanez, just Roc Nation.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

No, no, I'm not even picking on Roc Nation. So basically, leading up to the trial, I was one of the only people in hip hop media that kept saying, tory's gonna be found guilty and he's gonna go to jail. That doesn't make me a hater, doesn't make me a snitch or a cop. It's just based on the public information. I was filing the trial, I'm like, he's gonna go to jail. And everyone, whenever I did a poll on Twitter or, you know, YouTube, 80% of my viewers said, no, he's gonna beat it. He's gonna walk away. You know, she's lying. Whatever.

[Light The Barber]

I predicted it too. Not to cut you off. I predicted it too. Remember I said it to you? I said, right when you got somebody that's saying you shot them, I don't know. The case is not looking.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

It's not looking good, right? So lo and behold, he gets found guilty and he goes to jail and he files an appeal and the appeal falls through. And you think that that's the end of it. But constantly you see all this news footage that keeps coming out where it's like, yo, no, she never got shot. He actually had a press conference. Like, his lawyers had a press conference that said he didn't shoot her. Kelsey was shooting the gun, and he hit her arm. The gun fell to the floor and fired twice, and that's how she got hit. Now, listen, man, I'm not Nicholas Irving, you know, the army sniper, but I have handled guns throughout my life. And I can tell you, if I threw a gun on the floor a thousand times, I don't think it would fire twice. Am I right?

[Murder Mike]

That don't sound too believable. But, yeah, I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Right.

[Light The Barber]

So what made you wake up, though? This is the room.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

So. So this is what happened, right?

[Light The Barber]

So.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

So that morning, a bunch of, like, Daily Loud and a bunch of other, like, Domin's News, I believe, and a bunch of other, like, media outlets that I follow starts running this video of Tory's lawyers saying that Kelsey's bodyguard has come forward and said that Kelsey's the shooter, not Tory. And everyone's going crazy over this footage. And I'm looking at this going like, this is from last May, this art. He came out almost a year ago. The appeal went through, and it didn't happen. The appeal was struck down. And so I posed this. I'm like, yo, you're an idiot to think that this is somehow news and that this is somehow gonna overturn this. And people in the comments, yeah, but you know, Roc Nation, they bought off the jury and rock. It's really Jay Z. Cause remember Tory's dad, like, after Tory was found guilty, went on this whole rant where he was screaming about Roc Nation and Jay Z in the courtroom and everything else like that, right? So I said, okay, listen. Like, this has gotten so stupid at this point that I'm going to just do a tweet where I'm going to take every conspiracy theory around this and just list it one after the other. I got paid by Roc Nation. Jay Z paid off the jury, and he paid off the judge and did a verse for the judge's grandson, right?

[Light The Barber]

God.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

And. And he paid the Mexican dude to stab Tori in prison, and he paid off the doctor to say that she got shot when she really wasn't. And he paid off everyone else like, yo, I'm like, okay, this is so stupid that no one's gonna believe this.

[Light The Barber]

So you're saying the Internet does what it does best. Twist stuff up, change the conspiracy theories. But you knew. But you know why? It's trolling because you had to know some of the. Now the Jay Z verse was crazy. But him getting stabbed by Roc Nation, all that, that might be believable to some people.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

It might be believable. It might be believable. So you mean to tell me that Jay Z, where he is in life right now, right. He's a billionaire. He's considered one of the greatest ever. He's going to risk all that to pay a pedophile, a Mexican pedophile, to do a murder in prison over a guy with an, you know, who's antagonizing an artist? That's not even a big priority to Jay Z.

[Light The Barber]

Like, but Vlad, you. But Vlad, you're a credible. Listen, you a credible source to the culture. So people are like. A lot of people are like confused from what I'm hearing. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of. It's just coming from you. So people don't know if you're hacked or you was. You was trolling or.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I was not hacked, man. I was trying to prove a point. And I proved it that point. I was trying to prove whatever stupidity you put out there, there's going to be millions of people that eat it up. And I was right. No matter how stupid it is, no matter how totally unbelievable it is, there's gonna be someone that eats it up. And look, millions of people ate it up. Millions. I proved my point. Did I prove my point?

[Light The Barber]

You definitely did. Cause people ran with the story and it definitely went viral. That's why we got you on a real report right now. Like share, subscribe, you know what I'm saying? And we get to all. Everything that's real. So where do we go from here? Cause you're a credible source. You're part of the culture, Vlad. So people like, what are you hearing how people are calling your phone? What are they saying?

[Murder Mike]

And I wanna know, Vlad, how do you feel about people like. Cause you cool as shit, right? But how do you feel about people saying you a culture vulture too, Vlad. This the real reply.

[Light The Barber]

So we really love it. Vlad doesn't care. He has a lot of money, ladies and gentlemen.

[Murder Mike]

But I want to know how he really feels about that, though. Cause he been a part of the culture for so long, very long. So for people to say that. How do you feel about that, Vlad?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, I mean, what's interesting is that the both of y', all, I was like doing interviews with the both of you before Vlad tv.

[Light The Barber]

Yep.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

You guys are part of Vlad DVD era. Thanks for Real. For real. So you guys know how far I go back. I don't care about that. Every. Every white person in hip hop is called that at some point. You know, Steve Rifkin gets called that. Look how much he's contributed. Take Leo Cohen out of hip hop, and you would have a very different hip hop. People don't want to admit that, but there's a reason why he became president of Def Jam and then, you know, the head of YouTube Music. You know, he had. He was president. He was a chairman of another. He was chairman of, I think, Atlantic at one point. Like, I may be getting it wrong, but it's like, yo. Like, I'm fine with being called that. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's like, at what point do you just say we have to use our common sense? What's interesting about that particular tweet is that there's probably maybe like, at least 100 replies where people are asking, grok, is this real? And every time Grok says, no, it's parody. It's sarcasm, right? So AI knows sarcasm better than human beings. Now, isn't that sad? Isn't that kind of sad that AI does a better job of telling someone is sarcasm than the person themselves, an actual human being? That's what's sad about this.

[Light The Barber]

I never thought, like that. That's crazy.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Every time Grok. And Grok doesn't even get shit right sometimes. And every time, Vlad is being sarcastic. It's not real. This is.

[Light The Barber]

This is a joke. Every time Vlad. You know what's crazy? When I look at, like, the DVD era, when I look at, like, the MySpace era, you know, that the kids now don't know about, you know, it was like, it was Worldstar, it was this is 50. It was Vlad, it was Forbes DVD, you know, and then, you know, Fendi and them had to come up, but they didn't have the website, so you had to come up. And of course, you had Cocaine City with French, and you had what's My Man? That always had the girls, you know, My man.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Light The Barber]

Sub Zero. Sub Zero. Shout to Sub Zero.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah.

[Light The Barber]

It was smack, smack, smack. Of course.

[Murder Mike]

What up? Smack.

[Light The Barber]

And that was the dvd. And then we transitioned into the Internet, where everybody. Somebody get knocked out or whatever. Anything happens. World Star. And then you had Vlad TV, you had this Is 50, and you had Forbes DVD. So when I look at the sport that we in hip hop music entertainment, I think it breaks all color barriers. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because when I'm overseas and somebody knows my daughter name, my son name, knows everything about my life. And they break down when my album dropped. This. That person might not even be black. Or if we in Mexico or Colombia and people know the music, it breaks every barrier in the world. To me. We performed everywhere in the world. Armenia, Dubai, Italy, France, India. All parts of Africa. Morocco, Johannesburg, Angola. The list goes. Light? You got some more for me?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Tanzania.

[Light The Barber]

Tanzania. Give me some more light. True light. The barber in the building. Give me some more. Give me some more light. Give me some more light, huh? Yeah. Give me just anywhere in the world. Because you. You. He like, the barber flew more places than me. So.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

How about Russia?

[Murder Mike]

Pause. That sounds crap. But we was in this part called Kakistan or something like that.

[Light The Barber]

St. Petersburg, Russia, in Moscow. You. You know, this is what I'm saying. So there is no color barrier on music. I feel like it breaks every barrier because this. Some people that don't even understand English, that listen to music, you know? But back to Vlad trolling, though, right? You did a good job, Vlad. I like that, man.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Thank you. Thank you. Hey, man, listen. I think that we have to use our brains sometimes. And it's easy to think that there's always a conspiracy. There's always, like, something behind the scenes and so forth. And that was like, for example, like when I did the Keefe D interview, part of the reason why I did it was there are so many conspiracy theories about Tupac getting killed. Suge did it. Really? Like, if you wanted to kill someone and you weigh 300 pounds and they weighed 100 pounds, would you have them shoot up the car while you're in it?

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, it's not too smart, but. Yeah.

[Light The Barber]

You know, nobody trusts Suge back in them days, though, you know, the government's gonna be. Conspiracy theories.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah. You just heard Sugar.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

The police did. They swapped the body. He's still alive in Cuba. And it's like, all right, well, let me show you guys. This is the guy that was actually the car when it happened, the last living person.

[Light The Barber]

Well, you know, they got the conspiracy now saying Jeffrey Epstein is still alive. A guy looks just like him with the beard walking around. Oh, man. But we don't know. Let me. Didn't. Didn't Robert Duvall pass away today?

[Murder Mike]

Yeah.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Rest in peace.

[Light The Barber]

Rest in peace to Robert Duval. Rest in peace to him. Godfather, one of the classic mob movies. What is one of your best classic mob movies? Give me four or five of them. Or maybe one or two of them black.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I mean, I think My favorite. My favorite, favorite, just piece of cinema about the Italian mob is Casino.

[Light The Barber]

Okay.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Just because it's so much longer than a lot of the other films, and it really. You got a chance to really develop the story and see the relationships. And, you know, Joe Pesci was a lunatic. He was in top form. And this one, I mean, Goodfellas is an absolute classic. Godfather two, that was my. My favorite Godfather film. Donnie Brasco, that was a classic. People. You know, I interview a lot of tiny mafia guys. Try to get some of them on your show.

[Light The Barber]

Definitely. Who are some of. Some of the mob guys you interview? Tell them that people want to know.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Sammy the Bull.

[Light The Barber]

Okay.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Sammy the Bull. I remember at one point he told.

[Light The Barber]

But killed 19 people. I didn't mean to cut you.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

At least maybe more. Maybe at one point. I remember we talked about this.

[Murder Mike]

He was selling don't make him hot saying maybe more.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

You know.

[Murder Mike]

I'm telling you now.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

They'd be talking, like, I think on his YouTube channel, he was selling Sammy the Bull 19 shirts.

[Murder Mike]

Oh, that's bold.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah. And he said, oh, we took it down. I didn't realize they were doing it. He backed up off that.

[Murder Mike]

Got it.

[Light The Barber]

Wow. Yeah.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Sammy the Bull, Michael Francis, man. A lot of. A lot of big mob dudes, man, you know, and a lot of FBI agents that busted him. You know, Joey Merlino, the. The alleged Philly mob boss, that was a really big one.

[Murder Mike]

They just had something on Netflix.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

First ever, like, Real Interview was. Was on my platform, and now he's, like, out of there, you know, now he's doing his own podcast and everything else like that. Yeah, man.

[Light The Barber]

A lot of.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

A lot of interesting news and. And like, Merlino, I felt, was the most, like, active in terms of, like, a lot of the dudes I interviewed cooperate.

[Murder Mike]

He was real flashy. He didn't cooperate. Molino, right?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

No, he never cooperated. But what I'm saying is, is that most of the dudes I interviewed cooperate at some point. Sammy cooperated, Michael Frenzies somewhat cooperated and so forth. Joey never cooperated. So every answer that's mob related. I don't know.

[Murder Mike]

They had something about him on Netflix, right? To him and the whole Philly mob. Yeah, that was official.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah.

[Murder Mike]

I like the Joey.

[Light The Barber]

Oh, yeah. What was the name of that?

[Murder Mike]

The Philly Mob? Something like that was on Netflix.

[Light The Barber]

But I remember that right now I'm binge watching Light. I'm binge watching Hijack with Idris Elba. Oh, my God, man. The first thing is crazy, man. That's like the best thing on TV for me right now.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

What you watch, that's not the best. You've seen A Night of the Seven Kingdoms?

[Light The Barber]

No, I haven't watched it as part.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Of the whole Game of Thrones, like, universe.

[Light The Barber]

Okay.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

In the last episode, oh, my God, it was like they made a scene where seven knights have to fight each other. And just like this dirt field and the level of violence is just something different.

[Light The Barber]

Oh, I'm gonna watch that.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Think about that. Just a bunch of knights in armor on horses and jousts and, like, maces and swords just going all out trying to kill each other. 7 versus 7. Just a level of violence. You rarely see that type of violence, like, accurately depicted.

[Light The Barber]

What you watching? Like, what you watching? Like the barber.

[Murder Mike]

I'm currently watching Gangs of London right now. Season two just came back out.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

That's good.

[Murder Mike]

Right now.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah.

[Murder Mike]

Gangs of London is popping.

[Light The Barber]

Okay. I think I watched the first season, the first year.

[Murder Mike]

Part two just came out. Gangs of London popping.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah. But by the way, shout out to Aiden Ross, man. I remember. I think I dissed him for the first time. When you guys roll. We worked it out, man. I went. I went to his. Well, Adam 22 and Jason love had that fight and Aiden Ross was the one that hosted it. So we actually went to his event and I watched it. And afterwards, you know, we actually.

[Light The Barber]

Aiden, cool. He just gotta lay off Dochi. Shout out to tde, man. Shout to Top and everybody over there. Yeah, lay off Doshi, man. She. I'm a big fan of hers. My daughter is too. Shout out to Maniah for the whole tde. Come on, don't mess with Doshi, man. People take that personal.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

But we actually, you know, we met up face to face, we hugged it out, we exchanged numbers. We're going to do an interview. We've been in contact ever since. And he's like, man, that's what I realized about, like, this. This new breed of Internet, you know, people, is that they don't take nothing personally. They just keep it moving.

[Light The Barber]

I learned from you. Me and murder's getting a lot of hate now that we're blowing up and we doing a number. Shout to the volume. Shout to all the haters. And I just embrace the hate. I'm seeing a lot of sideline hate, indirect hate, but we don't care. Cause we even smoked duck in Morocco, baby. But, yo, Vlad, since we got you here, man.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

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[Light The Barber]

One of the most biggest music execs in the world, Interscope. Shout to Jimmy Iovine. I could tell y' all my illest Jimmy Iovine story is me and him and 50 eating lunch on top of Interscope. And I kept my mouth shut the whole time. Shout out to Jimmy Iovine. Dr. Dre, Eminem, everybody over there, right? Paul Rosenberg, 50. Did you hear what he said about how streaming is going to be absolute soon?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Absolute. Yeah, yeah. I watched that whole interview, man. Great interview.

[Light The Barber]

I mean, like, correcting my words too, Vlad.

[Murder Mike]

I got the whole.

[Light The Barber]

Sometimes I up. You got it. I like that because I, you know, I teach them about the salad fork. Now he's teaching me about words. It's my brother, though. We're gonna take it easy.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Did you see the last interview where. Where Yayo kept calling Bad Bunny Babs Bunny.

[Light The Barber]

I seen that.

[Murder Mike]

You had to check. I see that he kept going back.

[Light The Barber]

And calling Babs Bunny yo. I don't know why I beat doing that. Sometimes I start Calling people when I want to call them. I don't. It's a bad habit. I don't know, man. I don't. I be tripping. I gotta stop smoking some so much butt and get in the gym, man. I gotta stop. I'mma slow down, man. Shout to the unit. Dismo. You heard indoor too, huh?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I mean, what Jimmy said was interesting is that he basically said how all the record labels made a deal with Spotify, and now Spotify is bigger than all the record labels put together. Like, in terms of the market cap, if you look at how much Spotify is worth versus what the record labels are worth, all of them put together are worth less than just Spotify. And the record labels only get, like a small percentage of. Of the overall pie. So what he was saying is, is that in the future, Spotify may not be necessary, or streaming services may not be necessary because you'll be able to. You know, they basically say. He basically said that music is like the only industry where the artist or the label and the consumer don't connect with each other. They always go through a third party. So they're always reliant on a third party, whether it's distribution or, I mean, physical distribution or now digital distribution. It's like they still can't get directly to the person who's buying the product because the middleman controls that. And that's what he's saying. He's saying in the future that might, you know, that might change and it needs to change, but we'll see.

[Murder Mike]

How would that change, though?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Well, if there is. If you don't need Spotify.

[Light The Barber]

Right.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

What he said was interesting also was that when you look at Spotify, most of the money goes to just the top artists. The Drakes, the Taylor Swifts, whatever they.

[Light The Barber]

Doing the most streams.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Right. And. But, you know, the way the way it's structured is like, let's say a person pays $10, $10 a month. A certain percentage goes to who he listens to. And if only 1% is going to the independent artists, like everyone who's uploading music, who's not this megastar, they're really making almost nothing. The Drakes are doing okay.

[Light The Barber]

They're not even getting paid. You could say they're not even getting paid.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Okay.

[Light The Barber]

So.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

So, for example, you got to do well on streams. When you look at the catalogs that are up on DSPs with your catalogs, do you guys make a lot of money or not really?

[Light The Barber]

Yeah, a good amount of money.

[Murder Mike]

Shout out to Empire, shout out the guys In Neima, I just did a deal for seven figures with the music. So it's definitely still money.

[Light The Barber]

Shout out to Empire. Empire cut me a check.

[Murder Mike]

We definitely do got a project on it.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah, we got you. You know, we got you on that check.

[Murder Mike]

Still money and music, guys.

[Light The Barber]

That was A and R by Lightro the Barber.

[Murder Mike]

Man, I seen them great over there. So it's still money and music for artists like Free, Chef G and Sleepy. They still making a bunch of music off. Like, so.

[Light The Barber]

But it ain't Taylor Swift money, though.

[Murder Mike]

Of course we know that.

[Light The Barber]

But it's still.

[Murder Mike]

It's still money that. No, but people, they feeding their families off of this money.

[Light The Barber]

Like, but what Jimmy IV was saying that, that the artists like Taylor Swift and Kendrick and like that they. And you know, they benefit. You know, they. Because they do streams.

[Murder Mike]

Yes, they gonna benefit more, but we gonna still benefit as well. Like, we good. We don't need Taylor Swift money to survive where we from like that. Like, you know what I mean?

[Light The Barber]

No, I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying that's what Jimmy Iovine was saying. Like, and then he said something about like, there's no exclusive. Like, artists being excluded.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, yeah, the exclusives are dead.

[Light The Barber]

Remember, everybody's on Instagram.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

People were like dropping on. On Tidal exclusively and it wasn't going on Spotify, right? But then messed up people's first week sales. I. I think that's the problem is that in music, people care about the perception more so than the money, right? The fame becomes more important and it even makes financial sense because a lot of the money comes from the touring, right? So if you don't have the fame, the touring doesn't come with it. But remember, everyone was dropping exclusives on title and no one was charting in the top 10. So people just stopped doing that. Even though there might have been more money by dropping exclusively on Title, when you don't drop it on Spotify and Apple Music, you don't hit the charts and then it ends up looking like you're not a big artist. And then, you know, it's like a domino effect. But there was more money in it. I remember I looked into like Kanye dropped Donda 2 on the, like, the stem player. I don't know if you ever saw you could actually take out like the vocals, take out the. The drums.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I remember when he did that, he.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Was selling it for like $200 and he sold like an insane amount. Like, I remember I did the math and like, he Made something like two or three million dollars off just that. And he didn't even sell that many, but it was a high ticket price and it was direct and it was like, yo. And you didn't even hear about it. Didn't hit the charts. But he made way more than if he had released it publicly and hit the charts. I think that's what Jimmy is saying. And listen, that remains to be seen. We'll see.

[Light The Barber]

I mean, I think guys like Jimmy Iovine could predict the future when it comes to music. Cause we was on Interscope when things was changing, when things went to itunes and stuff like that. We was in that transition. Like we went from hard copies to, you know, streaming. So we seen the transition and that's when they, you know, did the headphones and was working with Apple. So a guy like Jimmy Iovine and, you know, Dr. Dre, they predict the future in music. Like, from my opinion, from what I've seen from them.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, yeah. So when he says it, you gotta. You gotta, you know, perk your ears.

[Light The Barber]

Definitely.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Look, I remember when me and Leo Cohen spoke a couple years ago, and I said, what's the main priority for YouTube? Because he's the head of YouTube Music Global, he says, shorts. I paid attention. I started doing more shorts. And sure enough, YouTube shorts have surpassed, like Tick Tock shorts. So.

[Light The Barber]

Wow, I never knew that. That's good information.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Hey, man, when you, you know, when people high up talk, you should listen.

[Light The Barber]

I would think Tick Tock was more. That's crazy.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

YouTube is a monster, man. YouTube is. Is a monster. And at the end of the day, in terms of businesses, like, if you're a business and trying to make money off your content, there's nothing like YouTube. No one even comes close, you know?

[Light The Barber]

I love you.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah. YouTube accounts like 90 of our revenue. Yeah. We make a few percent off Spotify, a few percent off Facebook, a few percent off of a Snapchat, you know, and some other money here and there. But really, when it comes to serious money and where we really park our content, it's YouTube.

[Light The Barber]

So. So let me ask you a question, because me and Murder was talking about this. Shout out to Joe and Jada. Shout to Joe and Jada. Charlamagne. The Breakfast Club. Envy. Just hilarious. Lauren, everybody up there. So we know now you no longer see them on YouTube anymore. They on Netflix. Would you take a Netflix deal if the money was right? Or you think, what do you feel about that? Netflix versus YouTube.

[Murder Mike]

I don't see Vlad going to Netflix. I think Vlad loves his YouTube thing for some reason.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah. I mean, every. Every deal, you know, makes sense if there's enough money in it. Right? But it has to be like. Like, for example. Right. I'll just expose this because it was such a stupid deal. Patreon approach me, right? And I've had a lot of bad deal offers, but this. This, by far, it was the worst deal offer I ever had.

[Light The Barber]

So.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

So they approached me, they said, listen, you have a really strong membership section of your YouTube channel. You know, we want to talk to you about bringing your members over to Patreon, and we'll guarantee you two years of what you would have gotten on YouTube, you know, to go to Patreon. And I said, all right, this sounds interesting, right? So, you know, this is a lot of money because there's a, you know, talk about thousands of thousands of members, right?

[Murder Mike]

So you make a lot of money. Black. I keep talking.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, I do okay with it. It's an important part of the business that I've grown over, over years. And we started with members, and now it's like, you know, over 10,000 members. So I'm like, all right. So I had the conversation with everyone, and I'm like, they're like, yeah, you know, and here you could, you know, we offer this and we offer that. And I'm like, all right, before we go any further, are you asking me to shut down my YouTube membership and go exclusively with Patreon? And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, okay, so I'm going to shut down a successful, growing business and go to you guys to make the same money I'm already making with that business. It doesn't work out over here. I go back and there's no business anymore. Because once you shut down the membership, all the members go away and you have to rebuild from zero. I said, how on earth does this make any sense? You're offering me the same amount of money I'm making over here to come over there. It don't work out, and I have nothing to go back to. Like, well, you know, lots of people. I'm like, man, this is stupid. Y' all wasted my goddamn time. I said, pay me 10 times what I'm making in a year and I'll consider it. Oh, no, we can't do that. And I'm like, well, then we don't have a conversation. You know, you wasted my fucking time. It's a stupid ass offer. A stupid ass offer.

[Light The Barber]

You know, stupid.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

That's like. That's like saying, listen, whatever you guys make in streaming money, I'll match it for two years. And then if it doesn't work out, you go back to making zero.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, it don't make no sense, right? Give me some extra something. I need something.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

There was nothing that I said. Give me 10 times. Give me a 10 year stretch to work it out. And then, you know, give me that money up front. We could talk about it. Oh, no, we can't do that.

[Light The Barber]

How do you feel about our setup? Because right now they got all these fucking lights. I feel like I'm in a spaceship a little bit. Super.

[Murder Mike]

Now we popping right now.

[Light The Barber]

We got the lights, cameras, action, man. But yo, the number one rule you always told me was to embrace the hate. And I'm really getting it now. And shout out to all the people that show the love that been watching the show. You know, y' all make sure, you know, we sponsored by Hard Rock Betting. You make make sure y' all like, share and subscribe.

[Murder Mike]

Hold up.

[Light The Barber]

You know we doing them numbers. Hold on. Murder, we said we gonna stop cutting each other off.

[Murder Mike]

Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

[Light The Barber]

Cause we read in the comments talking about our arguing and cutting each other off. See, Murder, this, the whole thing. You gotta understand, Vlad. People gotta understand. My method to the madness is I don't watch my own videos any. Vlad. I did Shannon Sharpe, anything I do, I never watch back. Andrew Schultz, Kill Tony. I never watch it. I don't know if Murder's watching it.

[Murder Mike]

Nah, I don't be watching it.

[Light The Barber]

Cause I'm not watching it. And I don't read comments. But I always embrace the hate. And I see who's hating. I'm watching them because I watch everything. But we appreciate everybody, Vlad. And what's your advice to people in the podcast world to embrace the hate? What advice you give us in this game right here?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I think that you have to figure out what exactly you're really good and passionate about. I think a lot of people try to chase what other people are doing and it doesn't work out like Joe and Jada are authentically who they are. And that's why people like the podcast.

[Light The Barber]

Right?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Right. But a lot of people try to emulate other people and it doesn't work. And not only that, but you have to be prepared to go a long time without making any real money. Because not only do you go in with a deal like you guys have, Right. But even with the deal that you guys have, you guys have to bring the numbers. Of course. So, you know, I'm saying, so if you guys you guys will get the upfront deal, but then a year, two years into it, if you're not pulling the numbers, that deal will end and you guys will have to start over, you know, on a different platform or your own platform or everything else like that. You have to prepare to go in this, in the long run. Vlad TV started in 2008. So we're now 18 years into this, of doing this every day. Like, literally no days off, no real vacations, you know, putting out content 365 days a year. Certain interviews hit, certain ones don't. But we just keep going. And a lot of people come in, you know, do it for a little while, and then see that doesn't compete with the type of money they're already making. And then they. They quit. You see, I'm saying, deal or no deal, you still have to look at it as a real job as opposed to just a side hustle.

[Light The Barber]

Got.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

You see, I'm saying if you. If you treat it seriously, you could do great with it. You know, Nori came in way after I did. He did great with it. Gillian Wallow came in way after I did great with it. Academics, Adam22, you've seen a lot of people, but if you look at all those people, they took it really seriously, you know, whereas other people, it's just a little side gig they do. We know, an interview every so often. They do a podcast every so often. You know, Nicki Minaj, she was doing her radio thing every so often. It didn't really stick, right? Drake doing it every so often. You know, they get these deals, but they don't stick with it. So the people that are really, really successful, they take it 100 seriously and they stick with it. And whether they have a deal or whether they don't have a deal, they still are trying to put out the highest level of content because the, the deal is not going to stay if the numbers don't stay, you know, don't coincide with the amount of money. Nobody goes into this game to lose money. And, And I talk to people all the time when, you know, we have conversations that people expect, oh, I want to get paid this much to do an interview. And it's like, well, this doesn't make financial sense. So, no, no offense. I'm not saying you're not worth what you feel you're worth, but I know what it's going to make on my end, and there's no point of paying you twice what I'm going to make, right? That's just me putting Myself in the hole. And I've had interviews where I've lost money, but not that often because I've gotten pretty good at figuring things out.

[Murder Mike]

Vlad, you know what I want to know? Why do you interview Tony Yayo so much? Vlad, I'm asking now. You cutting me and Vlad or Vlad, why do you.

[Light The Barber]

That's elementary, dear. Watch.

[Murder Mike]

I'm asking Vlad the question.

[Light The Barber]

That's elementary.

[Murder Mike]

Why do you interview Tony Yayo so much? Well, that's something me and the whole crew wanted to know.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Look, the plan was not to interviewed Tony. Yay. A bunch of times. The plan was just to do one interview, right? And you know, when we do an interview, we kind of do like a life story piece on that person. So, as it so happens, and Tony remembers me and him were not on the best of terms when we did this interview, there's a little bit of tension.

[Light The Barber]

I didn't like Vlad. Eva, ladies and gentlemen, at a point. But Vlad is my brother now. Things could work out. Just like me and Fat Joe. Things could work out. Look, shout to the volume. Shout to Joe and Jada. Look, he helped us get this deal over breakfast in Belgium or Germany, where he was at.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah. And you can even tell in that first interview, me and him, there was a little bit of tense energy between us, Right? That whole shut the up that came from the first interview, but it came out and look, I could have cut out the whole shut the up. I'm gonna be like, oh, man, he disrespected me. That. I ain't gonna put that out. I mean, I have final cut. I could cut out whatever I want, but I'm like, no, I'm gonna run with this. This. This is actually funny. And this became a meme, right?

[Light The Barber]

To the meme. Why I say meme, meme, meme.

[Murder Mike]

I'm gonna help you with a couple of these words.

[Light The Barber]

I know the words, but this meme. There's a meme word too, right? This meme and meme or.

[Murder Mike]

No, it's just meme.

[Light The Barber]

All right, cool. Go ahead. Right? Go ahead, Vlad.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Shit. It became a meme. The interview did big numbers, and then it's like, all right, let's try a second interview. Did the second interview, and it did solid numbers. And then it became a profitable and mutually profitable relationship. And over time, it also became a personal relationship. Me and Tony started talking more offline, and I got to really see who he was as a person. And, you know, it's like me and him started to vibe with each other and everything else. Like that, you know, hung out. You know, we would have breakfast at the country club and, you know, shout.

[Light The Barber]

To the Calabasas Country Club. We're doing different things. Embrace the hate, man. I learned from Vlad. Vlad. Yo, Vlad. They say, you know, you're a culture vulture. And you don't, you, you know, you don't respect people. Tell them how much money you spent because you spent the most money on guests.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I paid out. I paid out over a million dollars to guess. And I could even, I could even, like, if I had to, I could even break it down by each guess. You see what I'm saying? Like, I don't think there's anyone in this space that has paid that amount of money to Guess. And I feel like before I started doing it, this was considered a no no in the media game. It's like if you do an interview, supposed to be for free, right? 60 Minutes is free. You know, Diane Sawyer free. Like, it's always, you know, Oprah free. You know, radio stations free. So during the pandemic, I'm like, yo, listen, some of these people who are my regular guests are hurting right now. Like the. Especially like the comedians. The comedians were hit the worst because they suddenly couldn't tour. And that's how they made their money. So I said, yo, let me start putting some money in some of these comedians pockets that are still rocking with me. And now I'm not depending on just a favor or the relationship. It's like, yo, let's turn this into a real business. Like, yo, I'm going to pay you, I'm going to put it out. We're both going to make money. And that created a whole industry in and of itself. I remember when me and Birdman first had our conversation, he was like, man, like, what you did was interesting because I never saw anyone pay for interviews. And now you've created a whole business around it. Now people support themselves through paid interviews. And now everyone pays, you know, more or less, you know, and so forth. And you've had all these businesses that have flourished and the people who have gotten paid have now created their own careers and, you know, create their own podcasts. Like, like you, for example, Tony. Like, you know, you went from getting paid to do interviews to now doing your own podcast.

[Light The Barber]

I mean, definitely that's not a coincidence. Me being on Vlad TV gave me the experience. And you gotta have tough skin, you know what I'm saying? To be on YouTube and you gotta be smart and you gotta be strategic. And to anybody, Vlad is one of them platforms that every artist or anybody should go to, because it's a big platform when I'm overseas in Europe, anywhere, everybody. The number one interviews they always talk about is Vlad tv. Even we did shout to the Black Caucus family out there in Albany. We was chilling with the mayor and the congressman, the Attorney General. You know, all of them was talking about, you know, Vlad tv. They seen interview another viral one, another one in the books. You know, it was great. Good promo. You know what I mean? And they watched Vlad Smoke Duck is like. Is super viral. You know, shout to everybody. Every time they put it up, I definitely post them. And I think it's pretty dope. Cause you got people from all walks of life that are showing how dope it is to vacation. They showing their vacation, and they saying, I'm eating smoked duck in Morocco. It's even more motivation for me now. I want to go places that we haven't been, like, you know, I don't know where we haven't been. I definitely got to get to Haiti. That's one place. Chateau Mazos. That's one place I haven't been. We supposed to go to Wyclef. What was that way back, you know? But shout out to all my Zoes. I definitely want to go to Haiti. Nice resort and just chill.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

You're Haitian yourself, right?

[Light The Barber]

Yeah, definitely both parents.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

So have you ever been. You've never been back?

[Light The Barber]

Never been to Haiti? I'm born in America.

[Murder Mike]

Wow.

[Light The Barber]

I would have got deported if I wasn't born here because I had felonies and stuff. So they would have sent me back to Haiti.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Right, but you've never. But I'm saying your family's from there. You've never been back. You should go, man.

[Light The Barber]

Nah. That's one trip that I definitely want to take. All kind of things happen in Haiti, man. It's. It's, you know, but it's a real beautiful country. Beautiful water. You know what I'm saying? It's real nice resort. So, you know, my mom tell me that all the time, so I definitely want to go out there. And the food is amazing.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah.

[Light The Barber]

Nothing like some Haitian rice, some lambi, you know what I'm saying? Haitian potato salad. Dominican people say it's they potato salad, though, the beet salad. Like, I heard Dominicans say, that's not potato salad, but it's Haitian potato salad.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

To me, it's the same island. I've been a doctor, but I've never been to Haiti. But it's the same island, right? Yeah.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah, it's the Same island, definitely. You could say that. But. But I love. You know, I'm talking about the Haitian potato salad, which I love. It's like beets instead of regular, just potatoes. It's beets in there, too, so it's red. So I love that. But Dominican people do it the same way, too. Shout out to Dominican people out here. You know, we in New York, man. You know how that go, man. But, Vlad, you got a good ass setting behind you, man. I see the fireplace. You living good. I'll check you. I'm gonna come check you at the Calabasas Country Club. We walked in there, they looked at us like we was crazy, but Vlad had our back.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Made you take off your hat.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah, they made you take off your hat. It was real classy. We was the only black dudes in there. Me and Hollywood. Shout out to Hollywood, man, and thank you for your time. On the REAL Report, sponsored by Hard Rock Betting. You know, we got Vlad tv, you already know Vlad.

[Murder Mike]

Me and you barely got to talk. It was just like another you and Yayo interview. But it's all good. Just the real report.

[Light The Barber]

You know what I'm talking about? I mean. Yo, hey, man, he gotta have his questions ready, man.

[Murder Mike]

Where's the pillows today, man? No pillows today.

[Light The Barber]

So you're on the. You on the West Coast. You on the west coast now. Staying out the cold, man.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

It's raining out here, but not. Not like what y' all going through.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, we good. But, you know, it's actually a little nice out here.

[Light The Barber]

The weather got a little better.

[Murder Mike]

Got a little nice out here today. We a little pop.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

20 year, 20 year low. I heard in terms of weather.

[Light The Barber]

Oh, man, it was like Alaska a.

[Murder Mike]

Little colder than that.

[Light The Barber]

They would say two weeks, right?

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, it was colder than Alaska.

[Light The Barber]

It's crazy. You know what the thing I hate is? The shoveling. It's like, you know, for the city. Y' all put the. Y' all knock the snow out the street, right? But then y' all block everybody's car in. So when I go to Queens, everything was like a one way. So don't have a big truck or anything like that or, you know, even having a regular car was just. It was crazy. They gotta find. Remember that thing we was talking about in Canada? They got to find a way to melt that snow or something. And then there's a conspiracy theory saying that it's fake snow.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

It's fake snow.

[Light The Barber]

It's been there for two weeks. Like your conspiracy theory, AI.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, there you go. See, you started that Too, Probably, Vlad, man, listen.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Shout out to Roc Nation. Shout out to Jay Z, the lawyers, Tory Lanes. Yeah, you know.

[Light The Barber]

No, shout out to Megan, though, man.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Everyone in the middle of this.

[Light The Barber]

Klay Thompson and Klay Thompson now, right?

[Murder Mike]

Yes. Shout out to all of them, man, listen.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

People ask whether Jay Z's lawyers have approached me. No, they have not approached me because they know. They know it's sarcasm. They know this is not some, you know, what's the name of that Jaguar Right? Type shit, right? They know a sarcasm. And if they did approach me, I will say, no problem. I'll say. I'll publicly say it's sarcasm. I've been saying it's sarcasm, Vlad, but.

[Light The Barber]

If you get ran off the road by a tractor trailer or something like that.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Maybach Rolls Rock.

[Light The Barber]

Rock Nation, bro.

[Murder Mike]

God damn. Damn.

[Light The Barber]

Oh, man, It's a joke, man.

[Murder Mike]

Oh, man.

[Light The Barber]

Love you, Vlad, man. You my brother, bro. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. What you was going to say?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

My folk, I want to say, man, you know, if I get hit with a rock, you know, you know where it came from. It's the rock.

[Murder Mike]

It's the rock, dog.

[Light The Barber]

It's the rock.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, man.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Jay don't care, man. Jay doesn't care about none of this nonsense.

[Light The Barber]

Nah, man. God's a billionaire. Cares, man. All these rich guys don't care, man. They don't care.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Nah. And, and I, and I. Even though I predicted that Tory was going to go to jail, I have publicly said, because I did an academic stream the other day, I'm like, based on what he's gone through, he's been locked up for a couple years. He got stabbed, hurt way worse than what happened to Megan. I personally feel that he deserves to come out at this point. I feel that he's paid his debt to society.

[Light The Barber]

We all agree. We all agree, but me, me, I'm cop out. Master Flex, man. I'm copping out. You say you got two. If you say you got two, two or a year probation.

[Murder Mike]

I'm with a guy. If he capped out, yo, I heard.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I had heard from some people around him that it was as low as a year and a half.

[Murder Mike]

No.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, but this was before, because you gotta understand that Megan wasn't involved in the investigation originally. It wasn't until he started antagonizing her that she said, okay, I'm gonna cooperate. Originally, she didn't wanna cooperate. That's why she said, oh, I didn't get shot. I stepped on glass. She actually was trying not to escalate the situation with the Police. But then he starts mocking her and everything else like that. And it's like, okay, now she started, and then that's when she started cooperating once she started to cooperate. But there was that window before her cooperation where you could have copped out to a year and a half, end up doing whatever, nine months, you know, stay time and been home and making music right now.

[Murder Mike]

So when she did decide to cooperate, were they offering any other time besides the 10 years ago?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, I had heard it was like a year and a half, two years. Then I heard at one point it was like four years. But then, you know, but then at one point, it was just. It was over, you know, it was like, all right, we're going to trial. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta. You know, I mean, he was making songs about her. He was making songs about her. Who makes songs about the. The victim that they shot that's going to take the stand against.

[Light The Barber]

He did have a song, right? What was it called again? What? He did have a song out.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Didn't you know? He might. There was a lyric in there. You know, how you get shot or something. Something, something.

[Light The Barber]

How much time Tory got in now, though?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

What are you, like, eight years or so?

[Light The Barber]

No. How much time he. He been in so far? Two.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Two years, I think.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah.

[Murder Mike]

Bring him out too, Maybe going about 2.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, yeah. But did you ever see the stabbing video? Did you watch that video?

[Murder Mike]

See the stabbing video?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Oh, my God, man. Like, when you saw that, like, that guy tried to kill him, that was not just like a message. Like, he really tried to kill him. Like, Torey's L collapsed. They had to airlift him to a real hospital. The prison hospital was not equipped to deal with those types of injuries. That's how bad it was. They had to airlift him to a whole different hospital and do surgery. So. So think about. Think about that whole situation, right?

[Murder Mike]

That's crazy.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

But, you know, once again, you know, that's why I was like, oh, yeah, Jay paid that dude to stab him up. No, what had happened was you got a dude who's a pedophile, who's doing life in prison, who has a girlfriend on the outside, and Tory allegedly was flirting with her during visiting days. Now, you know, think about just in the real world, trying to get a girl that you like and you'll, you know, form a relationship with her and find someone that you're compatible with and so forth. You're doing life in prison for killing an underage girl. It's a little harder for you to find a girlfriend. You Know what I'm saying? And now this R B superstar is in there flirting with her. I can see how you would snap.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, allegedly. We don't know if that's the story, but allegedly, that's how I post.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

That's the story. That's the story. But if you look at Tori, man, all his problems always revolve around women. It all goes back to a woman every time.

[Murder Mike]

Crazy.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah.

[Murder Mike]

Yo, Vlad, you know what I wanna ask you?

[Light The Barber]

It's crazy you say it.

[Murder Mike]

What you think about LA Russell saying Lil Wayne never really said nothing in his music? Meaning like no substance. I just seen the interview of that. He was like, he was a big fan of Lil Wayne, but I guess he said as he got older and revisited Lil Wayne's music, he said he realized that Lil Wayne wasn't saying nothing.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I don't know LaRussell personally. I know he's from the Bay Area.

[Murder Mike]

So I mean, he just signed the Roc Nation. Being that we own the whole Roc. Signed the Roc Nation.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

He just signed a Roc Nation. And I don't, I don't know him personally, so I can't say. Well, this is what I think he was thinking. But from the outside looking in, I think that the Russell has been independent for so long, has been under the radar because of that. Is that now that he actually, you know, has this opportunity, he's getting all this attention. He's on Rock Nation. Everyone's looking at him. I think he's. He's turning up. He's trying to troll. He's trying to get on the algorithm. And by saying stuff like that, here we are talking about it. Okay, I think it was calculated. I think it was calculated.

[Light The Barber]

So then what you was doing was trolling too then, right?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

We're all pro.

[Murder Mike]

Anybody's trolling.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I mean, think about it. When you guys got into the altercation with Ja on the plane, you got phone and started and start recording.

[Murder Mike]

I was trolling them.

[Light The Barber]

I was having murder trolled them.

[Murder Mike]

I was having some fun.

[Light The Barber]

But you know what's crazy about that? Murder had it for like two, three days.

[Murder Mike]

He didn't even care about it.

[Light The Barber]

He didn't really care about it. And then, you know, shout out to tmz, they started calling and it was like, yo, it is what it is. Every listen, everybody have their opinion on it and saying, you know, we the bullies. And some people saying, oh, that's what's up. And even congressman and Senate was coming to us. Why did y' all take Ja off the plane? I mean, some Things just happen. You got the mayor of Albany coming to you like, yo, why'd you kick JA off the plane? All these Senate people and. And the governor. What's the governor?

[Murder Mike]

She was there. The attorney general that was beefing with Trump.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah, they all there and they, you know, they all saying, why you kick them off the plane. We like, yo, sometimes things just happen. Then people saying what they would have did. I would have knocked them out. Y', all. Y' all goofies, y', all this, y'.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

All.

[Light The Barber]

Why would it. Listen, bro, we gotta fly and make money. So we damned if we do, we damned if we don't. If we would have snuffed them and got 86 door flights, everybody be like, yo, they stupid, yo, 50. Give me your job. 50. 50. Let me get they job. They dumb. No more smoke duck. They would have shitted on you. And when we, you know what I'm saying? And we don't do it, we goofies. Yo, they not like that. Don't ever let this podcast shit fool you, brother.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Light The Barber]

You know what I mean? Cause sometimes now we got the podcast, so people feel, you know, but everybody can have an opinion. And I learned from you. Embrace the hate.

[Murder Mike]

Now, Vlad, something else I want to ask you.

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[Murder Mike]

Do you think Michael Jordan could be canceled because it was just footage of him grabbing on the little kid butt?

[Light The Barber]

Yeah, that was a little crazy shot.

[Murder Mike]

I don't even know if he could be considered the goat. No more light. So after that butt grabbing he was doing. I'm just saying, Mike was doing a lot of butt grabbing. Mike. Mike was doing a lot of butt grabbing. My man Lighto over here, we have a lot of debates about sports. You know, I think LeBron is the goat. He think Kobe's the goat. Then Michael Jordan is always in the. You know, supposed to be the king.

[Light The Barber]

God. He said, ask Vlad where he at. You know, Vlad's gonna say Jordan.

[Murder Mike]

But I do wanna. I wanna know, do you think Michael Jordan could be canceled? Because everybody else, they. They videos out there surfacing to him grabbing the little kid butt and all that. But yay said, yay said the kid. Parents didn't even look mad when Mike grabbing.

[Light The Barber]

No, they ain't even. They you. I think that was. I don't know. I'm not gonna make an excuse for him, but people gonna say, that's like a basketball celebration coming from him. Now, if it was somebody else. Yeah, look. Wow. It do look. Wow. Don't get me wrong. But you hear people saying, was it a pause? It was crazy, bro. It was. I'm not gonna say pause or not. It was crazy.

[Murder Mike]

It's not a pause.

[Light The Barber]

But what up. Listen to what I'm saying.

[Murder Mike]

That was a pause.

[Light The Barber]

All right, I'm gonna let you talk because you don't.

[Murder Mike]

All right, I think the way Mike squeezed, it looked like if it was a Did not. But the way.

[Light The Barber]

I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying is. Are you still going to buy Jordans?

[Murder Mike]

It was a pause. Look, let's look at the video. Let's look at the video.

[Light The Barber]

It do look crazy, baby.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I saw the video. The video was crazy.

[Murder Mike]

Go back to.

[Light The Barber]

The video was crazy.

[Murder Mike]

Look at the hand squeezing. Look at the hand squeezing. And then he did some more. Now, was that a pause, Jay?

[Light The Barber]

It was crazy. I'm not saying it's not crazy. What I'm saying is it's Michael Jordan, so people gonna forget about it in a couple of days because it's Michael Jordan.

[Murder Mike]

But as me, as me and you just watching that video. Was that a pause?

[Light The Barber]

I'm not saying a pause. I'm saying it's crazy. It was crazy. It looked crazy.

[Murder Mike]

It was a pause moment for Michael Jordan.

[Light The Barber]

What do you think? Like, what?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

You think I give it a pause?

[Murder Mike]

You give it a pause, Vlad.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Give it a pause.

[Light The Barber]

I think.

[Murder Mike]

I don't know why he's trying to defend.

[Light The Barber]

No, I'm not saying a pause is totally different than what that was. That Looks crazy. A little kid.

[Murder Mike]

Oh, he going to love.

[Light The Barber]

All right, I see what he's saying. I don't even want to go.

[Murder Mike]

All right, Okay, I got you.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah. Y' all talking about pause that little. That's crazy.

[Murder Mike]

What you think beyond pause, Right. So would you still buy the Jordans?

[Light The Barber]

It just look. It look. It look crazy on the camera. But what I'm saying is it look like a celebration, but it's Jordan. You know, people gonna be like, no.

[Murder Mike]

If it was, you just said it's past pause. So I was thinking, would you still.

[Light The Barber]

I don't wanna. Who you. I got Jordans on my feet now. You gonna wear them, too?

[Murder Mike]

I'm just saying. Cause you said it's beyond pause.

[Light The Barber]

Like, that's. You said. I mean, it's on the people. I don't know. I just seen a video for the first time. All I'm saying to you is, I heard about it, and some people were saying it's AI and it's not a big deal. And he just won. That was that Indy 500. That was his son. So I don't want to insinuate like that Jordan is one of the goats. So I would just think it's, you know, a celebration. So I don't want to think like that. You know what I'm saying?

[Murder Mike]

And that was the driver.

[Light The Barber]

Yeah. That's his first time winning. So I don't. You know what I'm saying? I know how it looked, though.

[Murder Mike]

I saw the video earlier. I'm glad that was your first time.

[Light The Barber]

Seeing it, because now it looked crazy.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah. All right.

[Light The Barber]

I heard about it look crazy. But people say it's AI, but, you know, Jordan is still a ghost.

[Murder Mike]

That's not AI.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Not AI.

[Light The Barber]

No, it's not AI. That's what people were saying.

[Murder Mike]

No, it's not AI. Now that we know.

[Light The Barber]

Hey, brother, calm down.

[Murder Mike]

No, but it's not AI.

[Light The Barber]

Calm down, brother. I didn't say it wasn't AI.

[Murder Mike]

We might have to take. We might have to take those Jordans off his feet, man. We might have to take the Jordans.

[Light The Barber]

Off his feet, Vlad, what are you talking about? I mean, you'll never be able to do that. So once you ask me what size I wear, I know that means. Means Pop. I learned that on the island, you know? I mean, free everybody on Rikers, man.

[Murder Mike]

Free all the guys.

[Light The Barber]

I learned that on Rikers.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, but the. The jo. The Jordans might be. They might be no good no more.

[Light The Barber]

He might have saying that you might.

[Murder Mike]

Have to take them Jordans off, man.

[Light The Barber]

Oh, my goodness. Now you're taking it.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I'm just saying, this particular situation, I don't think he's really going to get canceled like this because it's not like he's doing this privately somewhere. And they got a footage of him, like, he's obviously around a ton of people. Everyone's celebrating. I think he's trying to pat the kid out the way, sort of. And, you know, the way he did it I thought was inappropriate. But it's not like he's meeting underage kids or, you know, this was a hidden video somewhere that, you know, just him and a kid by themselves. Like, absolutely. He'd be canceled if that was the case. But I think this is just him, you know, listen, Jordan is everyone I've talked to that's played with him. He has a level of competition that's just insane, right? Like, he will play dice with his security guards, you know, for a dollar and expect them to pay that dollar at the end.

[Murder Mike]

You know what I'm saying about that money, man?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yo, he. He remember, he got caught up in the. In the golf gambling situation. Like. Like, he really, like, when he gambles or when he. That competes, he's not like the rest of us. So I think that this is his first, like, whatever, race car championship ever. So he's like, you know, suddenly he's back into his Jordan mode.

[Murder Mike]

He was just excited.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

He was excited and he's excited. He's just like, probably thought the kid was a teammate. That's what it kind of looked like to me. It didn't look like, ooh, let me go feel up on this little kid's butt.

[Murder Mike]

Even though you shouldn't be doing that to a teammate neither. But I don't know. I don't know.

[Light The Barber]

Let him talk murder.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

He's doing it in front of everyone.

[Murder Mike]

I want to hear Vlad talk.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

He wasn't trying to. He knows. He knows he can't be slick about it. Everyone's filming this, so I just think he just caught up in the moment, and he's just. Yeah, that's what I think. But then again, listen, if some other shit come out, then they gonna go back to this video again.

[Murder Mike]

Definitely going back to that video. They definitely going back.

[Light The Barber]

Vlad, who's your top five basketball goats.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

In order or just five, period?

[Light The Barber]

In any order you want to.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Any order I want. Okay. Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, AI and LeBron.

[Murder Mike]

That's no order. That's just your top five.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

The top five. Yeah.

[Murder Mike]

Got you, Got you.

[Light The Barber]

That's a good That's a good top five.

[Murder Mike]

It's a good top five. Yeah, I know. My man like me and my man like you. Let go, right?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

People forget about Shaq. A lot like, Shaq was just the level of dominance he had. You know, who could push around Shaq out there? Anyone?

[Murder Mike]

Nah. Shaq was the truth. Even though Hakeem used to be giving it to him. Yeah, Hakeem used to be giving it to Shaq. So out of Kobe, LeBron and Jordan, how you rate them? Yeah, let's go.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Jordan, Kobe, LeBron.

[Murder Mike]

Okay, that's your opinion, Blair.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Jordan, Kobe, LeBron. Because I feel like when it comes down to it, when everything's on the line and that player has to hold the whole team down, I think that's the order that you see it in. I know when Jordan gets down, he don't even pass the ball to nobody, right. You know, it's not a team sport anymore. It's.

[Light The Barber]

It's like the barber's happy over here. Shout out to, like, the barber, man. Best barber in the U.S. man.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

No, but I can see an argument for LeBron being the goat. I can see that.

[Murder Mike]

Of course, of course. There you go, Vlad. Of course, of course.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

These are all valid arguments.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, that's just Vlad opinion. It's just Vlad's opinion. LeBron, the goat.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah. I mean, listen, man, my man John Salley, he just came by the house recently. That's my man, you know, but that's my actual friend. But I'm not going to say he's better than Jordan. You know, he wouldn't say that either. Right. But I think those three, that there's an argument. You could. You could switch all those three around depending on who you are. And I, I feel like the younger generation because.

[Murder Mike]

Because you're.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

You're younger than me. Murder. I feel like, like they just gravitate towards LeBron because they got to see it in real time. There's something different. Like I got to experience Thriller when it came out. I remember going to the store and buying the cassette and hearing the songs. When I remember seeing the Beat it video, seeing the Thriller video, you know, seeing the Bad video, everything else like that. Like, like this is brand new music. You can't really know. You can't go back to some old shit and have the same experience of the person who actually lived, lived through it. Right. This is why I'm not a huge Beatles fan, because I'm just too young for that, Right? But my older cousins, they love the Beatles. Like, oh, like they're you know, they're like, jesus. But you know, for the younger generation, it's going to be LeBron. For the older generation, it's going to be Jordan. For in the middle it's going to be Kobe. And people just gravitate because they're seeing the games in real time. They're going to the games, they're experiencing it. You know, they're meeting the players. Sometimes, you know, like an 18 year old doesn't really know about Jordan like that. They can watch the tapes, they can wear the shoes, but it's not like actually experiencing, you know, the three peat and everything else like that. And just the, you know, how, how Jordan came in and think about it. Before Jordan, it was a totally different NBA. It was slow. It was slow. People were not. Yeah, I mean, but I mean, just like, just the hype of it. Like, who was really buying Magic Johnson's Converses? I mean, people wore them, but it wasn't like when the Jordan threes came out, it was like, yo, what is this? Like, this is.

[Light The Barber]

Magic Johnson had Converse. I didn't even know that.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had.

[Light The Barber]

What was that called? The weapons. Magic Larry.

[Murder Mike]

Larry Bird has niggas too.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, him and Larry Bird, I think had conferences, was all weapons.

[Murder Mike]

It was all the weapons. I never knew that.

[Light The Barber]

Oh, I never even knew that. That's some basketball history right there.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

But they were just the regular looking, you know, basketball. Like the Jordan ones are kind of some regular looking basketball.

[Murder Mike]

Choose your weapon. Oh, like Lethal Weapon. Oh. Choose your weapon.

[Light The Barber]

Wow, that's. That's crazy.

[Murder Mike]

That's crazy. Look at that. Okay.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah. You know, Jordan came in and like, yo, people weren't getting robbed for sneakers until the Jordans came out. Right, right. You never hear people getting robbed for their pumas. I like the Jordans.

[Murder Mike]

You ain't lying.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

And. And the price point was crazy. It was like it was so expensive at the time and it's like, yo, like these are investments on your feet.

[Light The Barber]

Hey, Vlad, you know what makes Jordan special to me? And like when you. We just watched the All Star Game, right? Who won? The east of the West. Who won like the All Star Game?

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, the young boy, they did it different this year. They had the All Stars, the young coming and they had the World League.

[Light The Barber]

The World League. So who won?

[Murder Mike]

The young boys.

[Light The Barber]

The young boys. The young boys won. Right. Back in the days, didn't Michael Jordan do the slam dunk contest?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Right.

[Light The Barber]

Now what would make the All Star Game crazy? If we had LeBron, Wembianna and give me somebody else.

[Murder Mike]

You would think Edwards I think should.

[Light The Barber]

Be say we all had them. John Morant say we had them in a slam dunk contest. You know how much views would go up for the All Star Game? No more stars really want to do nothing. When you seen LeBron is not doing a slam dunk contest, but Jordan did. So that to me, that's what make it better when you.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Kobe did it too.

[Light The Barber]

Oh, Kobe did it too. Oh, all right. There you go. Like Kobe did it too. Y' all the most notable stars. But imagine if them names was on a slam dunk contest.

[Murder Mike]

It'd be popping right now. It'd be popping that come up with it because shout out to my guy Mo power by indoor in the building.

[Light The Barber]

For show Indoor in the building.

[Murder Mike]

They may be running out of dunks too, dude. Yeah, but now if you look at some of these high school kids, I be seeing some. Some clips on the gram of some kids that be doing some of these dunks. They be getting busy. They need to bring them in the league to at least entertain the people, man. They don't got to be in the league before a slam dunk contest. Go get the best dunkers in world and let them get busy. The young white boy, he was killing it. I think he on Indiana now something. He was killing it for a minute though.

[Light The Barber]

You call him the young white boy. What's his name?

[Murder Mike]

I forgot his name. Young white boy on Indiana, man. They know who I'm talking about. Vlad know I'm talking about. He won the slam dunk contest, I.

[Light The Barber]

Think two or three years in a row.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah, he was killing it. He was killing the dunk cons. I don't know why they didn't have him in it this year.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I mean, isn't it sort of like. But now you got these dudes like Wemby who are just. They don't even have to dunk. They just walk over and just put the ball in. Damn it.

[Light The Barber]

But just imagine his name being in the slam dunk contest with LeBron, John Moran and Edwards or something. Just imagine that lineup. That alone will sell an All Star game, right? Stars need to start doing that. That's what we want to see for the slam dunk contest in the three point contest. You know what I'm saying? Stuff like that.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

I guess it's just. I don't know what's the real report. I do know. No, no, I do know. I do know. You know the real reason is why they would lose to smaller names. LeBron would lose the slam dunk contest, right.

[Murder Mike]

LeBron too old now, but I'm saying.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

But a lot of these bigger names would lose to the smaller names.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

And it was. They would look like they're losers, you know, I mean, I. I think that's.

[Murder Mike]

They think it would hurt the brand or something like that. They feel like it would hurt the brand.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Things like that sell less shoes and blah, blah, blah, you know, like, Luca, okay.

[Light The Barber]

LeBron is an icon, you know, he.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Lost the slam dunk contest. Like, now these shoes. Like, I think. I think that's what it is, the perception. Because it's a solo competition. It's not like, okay, well, I lost the all star game, but I was with a whole bunch of other players, you know, whatever. I played a one on one competition and I lost to someone who's away.

[Light The Barber]

There's no excuse when Jordan and Kobe do it. Like Light said, there's no excuse, but do they stick to Jordan? Listen, if Jordan and Kobe did the slam dunk contest, there's no excuse for no other star or icon not to do it, bro. I'm just keeping it real. My opinion.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Yeah, but I would love to see it, but I just don't think it's gonna happen, you know? You think SGA gonna do a. You know?

[Murder Mike]

Nah. Everybody protecting their interest now.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Everyone protected their brands, their interest. Way more money in it now.

[Murder Mike]

Yeah.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

What happens is that when you have these slam dunk contests, it's a bunch of dudes that are like, you know, role players and stuff like that. They're, you know, like the white boy you mentioned, you know, we're all talking about him now, but he had nothing to lose. He don't have his own shoe.

[Murder Mike]

Oh, you don't got no problem with Vlad? Call him the white boy.

[Light The Barber]

Who? Who?

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Vlad.

[Murder Mike]

Vlad just said the white boy.

[Light The Barber]

I was letting y' all talk.

[Vlad TV (Vladislav) Host]

Oh, all right.

[Murder Mike]

Now you're letting us talk. I'm just. You cut me off when I said the white boy. You let Vlad say the white boy.

[Light The Barber]

I'm chilling, man. I'm in chill mode, bro. You know, Vlad, I'm in chill mode. I'm in journalistic mode. I'm in work mode. You know, it's the real report. That's what I came to do, and that's what we gonna do. And you know, like, Share, Subscribe. It's the real report. Today we have Vlad tv big guest, man.

[Murder Mike]

Whoa.

[Light The Barber]

I mean, straight from the west coast.

[Murder Mike]

Vlad appreciate you.

[Light The Barber]

And y' all know, you know, we're sponsored by Hard Rock Betting. You know what I'm saying? Get your betting right with hard rock betting. You know how we do. It's the real report. Another episode. We the most consistent. We gonna keep working.

[Murder Mike]

Whoa, whoa.