The Real Report - Kid Capri on battling Funk Flex, touring with Biggie & R.Kelly, DJs being undervalued, & working with Kendrick Lamar

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Joe and Jada: The Real Report

Episode: Kid Capri on Battling Funk Flex, Touring with Biggie & R.Kelly, DJs Being Undervalued, & Working with Kendrick Lamar
Release Date: April 22, 2026
Hosts: Fat Joe (“Murder”/Uncle Murder), Jadakiss (“Turbulence Tony”/Tony Yayo)
Guest: Kid Capri

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Episode Overview

This episode features legendary DJ, rapper, and producer Kid Capri in a wide-ranging, passionate discussion. The conversation traces Kid Capri’s rise from Bronx mixtape innovator to Grammy-winning producer, his influence on hip hop, memorable tour stories (from Biggie and Salt-N-Pepa to Kendrick Lamar and the Def Comedy Jam era), plus honest talk about the undervaluation of DJs, high-stakes battles with Funk Flex, and maintaining authenticity in a changing industry. The tone is lively, raw, and often hilarious, peppered with anecdotes, hip hop history, and wisdom from the frontlines of the culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kid Capri’s Early Days & Bronx Club Legends

• Kid Capri is lauded as a multi-talented artist: DJ, rapper, producer, and beatmaker (“He’s not a one trick pony—he’s like a Kanye West, like a Q-Tip, you know, he produces and raps.” – Murder, 02:32).
• Stories about infamous Bronx clubs like The Castle and S&S Club, where Kid first made his name spinning for the city’s biggest street figures and gangsters.
  • “The mixtape thing is what really took off for me. When that took off, I was the soundtrack to the drug dealers.” – Kid Capri (05:47)

Notable Moment:
A Slick Rick myth is clarified — he didn’t get shot in the eye outside the Castle; his car was shot at.

“No, he didn’t get shot in his eye. They shot at him...I think he had a girl in the truck and she got grazed in the side.” – Kid Capri (04:31)

2. Touring, Mixtape Hustling, and Setting Trends

• Capri describes the grind and innovation: the first hip hop DJ to own a tour bus and haul 15 crates of records on the road.
• His clubs rarely had violence: he keeps crowds too busy and entertained for trouble.

  "When you keep everybody busy, you can step on somebody’s foot and it ain't no problem." (09:01)

• The mixtape era as a game changer, especially for street culture:
  • “I seen it bigger. I sat on 145th street next to Willie Burgers, sold the mixtapes for $20...make $2,000 an hour.” (37:14)
  • Drug lords like Alpo would pay $500 for a tape nobody else had:

    “Alpo would come to my joint and buy the tape from me for $500...because he wanted the tape that nobody had while I was recording.” (38:39)

3. Classic Album Debates, Top Fives & Hip Hop Eras

• Kid Capri weighs in on no-skip, classic albums:
  • Rakim "Paid in Full," Slick Rick "Great Adventures," 50 Cent "Get Rich or Die Tryin," Tribe Called Quest "Low End Theory." (10:16)
• Argues the 90s were hip hop’s golden era—bigger and more advanced, but pays homage to 80s originators.
• Refuses to make a generic “Top 5 MCs” list:

  “If you talking about rap skills, why isn’t Twista in top five? Why isn’t Eminem in everyone’s top five?” (15:18)

4. Battle Rap & Influence

• Kid Capri’s deep respect for battle rap, even producing a (never released) battle rap album “Top Tier”:

  “I made an album called Top Tier with all battle rappers...shit is incredible. Never put it out.” (13:23)

• Observes that top rappers today borrow heavily from battle rap styles.

5. Stories from the Road: Biggie, Aaliyah, Salt-N-Pepa, Def Comedy Jam

• Touring with legends: Capri shares vivid backstage moments—like Biggie in Detroit and on the R. Kelly tour.

  “Biggie was cool...I was like, ‘yo, I’m proud of you.’ He said, ‘You proud of me?’ I said, ‘Yeah, I’m proud of you.’...He had a purple suit on. It was me, him and R. Kelly.” (23:15)

• Reminisces on the power and history of Def Comedy Jam. Talks about being the tour DJ, experiences with Martin Lawrence, Bernie Mac, Chris Tucker, and more.

  “Bernie...would tell jokes the whole trip, through cities and shit...he’d get to the city, get on stage, shut that shit down.” – Kid Capri (29:01)

• Produced 50 Cent’s “Rowdy Rowdy” and reflects on being flown out to Cancun for the first time.
• Recalls Madison Square Garden moments—overselling the Aaliyah show and feeling the crowd’s “wind” with Busta Rhymes.

  “To this day, me and Busta talk about the wind we felt from people screaming at us...it was so crazy.” (25:54)

6. Radio, Industry Shifts, and the Undervaluation of DJs

• Kid Capri laments how DJs’ central role has diminished in the streaming/social era.

  “It still didn’t bring us to...being highlighted the way we’re supposed to be...I fought for the fact I’m not gonna be treated like some nigga playing music...you’re gonna put me centrestage.” (62:42)

• Insists on being paid like a major artist when he sells out venues.
• Talks about the “golden rule” of DJing—openers should never burn the big DJ’s signature tracks, which is often violated now.

7. Fun Advice and DJ Science

• On reading the crowd and tailoring sets:

  “It’s your job to know what’s going on in that city...I call the top DJ or promoter and say, ‘Yo, what’s popping?’...When I play it, the crowd is losing it.” (54:31)

• Humorous takes on what to play for different crowds—from “I Love Rock & Roll” for white audiences to Daddy Yankee for Spanish Harlem, Soca for African crowds, Go-Go in D.C., and more.
• Compares the science and responsibility of DJing to being harder than rapping or singing:

  “Your job is very hard, brother. Harder than the singers, too.” (74:17)

8. DJs vs. Rappers, DJ Battles, and the Funk Flex Rivalry

• Capri downplays ongoing beef with Funk Flex, saying competition was healthy and their relationship is cool now—though “he needed a little tap on his hand for a minute because he was Flex.” (77:16)
• Reflects on why he doesn’t care for “battling to knock another man down,” comparing hip hop’s battle spirit to the Drake-Kendrick beef’s escalation through social media and violence.
• Deeper debate about how battles have changed—healthy competition vs. destructive drama.

9. Working with Kendrick Lamar

• Behind-the-scenes on collaborating for Kendrick’s "DAMN." album:

  “He reached out when he was doing the DAMN. album...I was surprised how smart he was, how much history he knew...he said, ‘I know what you did for DJs, what you did as a whole. I wanted that authenticity.’” (41:46)

  • Capri narrated five tracks on the album, deeply respecting Kendrick’s artistry and humility.

10. Overcoming Cancer & New Ventures

• Capri reveals his 2023 thyroid cancer diagnosis, how he kept working, and beat it. He then launched a herbal supplement business, HerbalResetPlus.com.

  “You gotta put that shit in the back of your head...the worrying part is what makes you sicker. Do your appointments. When I got rid of it, the doctor said, ‘You did everything right.’” (96:28)

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Notable Quotes & Vivid Moments

• On Respect:

  “The Bronx started the game, but Queens ran the game.” – Murder (11:58)

• On influence and being copied:

  “At one time, I ain’t like that. I was like, why everybody doing my shit?...Once I got over that and really looked at it, it was like, Kid, you influenced the world, B.” – Kid Capri (46:38)

• On DJ’s worth:

  “I knew how to say no to people very early...I know what I bring to the table.” – Kid Capri (64:38)

• On DJ “golden rules”:

  “You ain’t gonna tell Jay how to rhyme on mic...So you’re gonna tell me how to do what I do?” (70:47)

• On working with Kendrick Lamar:

  “I’m older than him, and I look up to him.” (42:35)

• On health struggle:

  “In 2023, I had caught cancer...took my thyroid out...when I got rid of it, that’s when I told everybody about it. Since then, I started Herbal Reset Plus.” (95:13)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:28 – Kid Capri’s multi-talented legacy and song for the NY Knicks
• 04:06-06:50 – Stories of the Castle club and Slick Rick shooting myth
• 07:40-09:51 – Outworking the competition, touring everywhere, never having violence at his events
• 10:07-11:58 – Classic albums debate; “the best era” for hip hop
• 13:23 – Battle rap’s influence and Capri’s unreleased battle rap album
• 23:15-25:54 – Backstage with Biggie and R. Kelly; Madison Square Garden story with Aaliyah & Busta Rhymes
• 37:14-39:48 – Mixtape era, hustling on the corner, street markets for tapes, big names buying exclusives
• 54:31-55:25 – Capri’s secret: Calling local DJs to know what records will impact
• 62:42-65:51 – Fighting for DJ respect, setting payment standards, artistry required for top billing
• 77:16-80:23 – Addressing Funk Flex rivalry and what real DJ battles would look like today
• 95:13-97:35 – Thyroid cancer story, rebounding with health and business
• 41:46-43:02 – Working with Kendrick Lamar on the DAMN. album

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Final Thoughts & Takeaways

This episode is a masterclass on hip hop history straight from the source. Kid Capri’s journey—from Bronx block parties to shaping mixtape culture, touring with legends, battling for DJs’ respect, and surviving cancer—is as inspiring as it is entertaining. He speaks freely about the industry’s shifts, the science of reading a room, how to command respect, and the importance of constant evolution. Honest, wise, and always ready to set the record straight, Kid Capri reminds listeners what authenticity, hustle, and artistry really mean in hip hop.

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For Further Listening

For more behind-the-scenes stories and hip hop debates, follow [Joe and Jada: The Real Report] and check out Kid Capri’s music, videos, and projects at [Kid Capri’s YouTube], [Instagram], and [HerbalResetPlus.com].

Transcript

[Murder]

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[Kid Capri]

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[Murder]

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[Murder]

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[Murder]

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[Turbulence Tony]

I want to say something.

[Murder]

No, no, no. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you.

[Turbulence Tony]

No, no, no, you.

[Murder]

No, you. No, you. Listen. Pause, pause, pause on that. A whole bunch of whole. Hold up, pause, pause.

[Turbulence Tony]

Super pause. You need to get Stab movies with.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, what's good?

[Turbulence Tony]

It's the boy l, jet, lenny, aka

[Murder]

uncle murder, and it's turbulence tony, aka tony. Yo, it's the real report. And we have the number one worldwide dj world. Oh, it's the king. What's going on?

[Turbulence Tony]

What's happening, Legend? What's going on, man? What's happening?

[Murder]

What's up, Legend, man. Happy to have you here, man. Happy to have you here, man.

[Kid Capri]

Glad to be here, man. Glad to be here.

[Murder]

Yo, we glad to have you here, man.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, man.

[Murder]

You know, you. You a pillar in hip hop. You know, we was backstage talking about K Slay, and, you know, sometimes people only give you flowers when you going, you know, God, like you. We want to give you your flowers now while you here, you know what I'm saying? That's why we did some business. Merc. Shout to my man Dre. Shout to the Garden of dreams, the whole Knicks Foundation. And you know, Kid Capri is the type of dude that what people don't need to know is he doesn't only dj. He raps, he produces, and he makes beats. So we gave a song to the New York Knicks. Me and my man Dream. They love Kid Capri. He's a legend.

[Kid Capri]

Live from New York.

[Murder]

And live from New York is playing on a. Make some noise for that. Playing on a playground Jeer. Come on, Jim, make some noise. J, J, what going on, Jim? So what I'm saying to you is he's not a one trick pony, you know, he's like a Kanye West. He's like a Q Tip, you know, he produces and he raps. He's like a havoc. He does a lot.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh, you ain't telling me nothing. I don't really know about Kid Capri,

[Murder]

but I could tell you something you don't know about.

[Turbulence Tony]

What?

[Murder]

What, what is one of the infamous clubs that used to DJ at in the Bronx? There's two. Name one.

[Turbulence Tony]

I don't know.

[Murder]

All right, so we gonna, we're gonna talk about that one of the most. And you know, back in the 80s, shout to the Bronx is still that

[Turbulence Tony]

must have just been talking about this a little while ago.

[Murder]

No, no, we didn't talk about it.

[Turbulence Tony]

All right, okay, guys, I just know Kid Capri. Okay, so tell me.

[Murder]

So back in the, you know, back in the, you know, in the 80s, the Bronx was dangerous. It's still dangerous now. Shout out to the Bronx.

[Turbulence Tony]

It's still dangerous.

[Murder]

Shout out to the Bronx. Definitely. We love y', all, though. I love the bx, you know what I'm saying? But make it safe again so we can come in, you know, so we can.

[Turbulence Tony]

When was it ever safe?

[Murder]

So look, the Bronx in the 80s. DJ, Kid Capri, DJ. See, I don't even. What are these cute car. These niggas don't. They don't be knowing nothing. I don't even need them.

[Turbulence Tony]

Okay, guys, that's what I'm talking about.

[Murder]

Dj, Kid Capri. DJ at a club called the Castle, right now. Jim don't even know this. The so called.

[Turbulence Tony]

How you know Jim don't know that? That's Kid Capri, right hand man.

[Kid Capri]

Him wasn't around there.

[Turbulence Tony]

He wasn't around there. Oh, you ain't noticed?

[Murder]

Yeah, Jim don't notice. Jim don't notice. Okay, okay, I know this is right here. Men don't know this.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's crazy.

[Murder]

Jim.

[Turbulence Tony]

Jim, do your homework. Jim. Go ahead.

[Murder]

Yeah, so the thing about the Castle is, like, in the 80s, that's like the infamous times. Like, just picture the Bronx in the 80s. The biggest gangsters, the biggest drug dealers. Kid Capri was DJing there like it was so infamous. Not trying to promote it, but the rumor is that even Slick Rick got shot outside of the Castle back in the days. Got shot in his eye like it's an infamous club. And the other club, he did.

[Kid Capri]

No, he didn't get shot in his eye. They get shot. They shot at him. And if I'm not mistaken, I think he had a girl in the truck and she got grazed in the side. They had cheesed up the truck, if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, it was a. It was. It was a crazy time in the Castle, man.

[Murder]

Don't talk about that, man, talk about that. Cause that's 80s hip hop, you know what I mean?

[Kid Capri]

Well, that. That was when we started the Castle. Castle was like 90, maybe 90. Yeah, it was like 80, 89.

[Murder]

90, 89 going to 89.

[Kid Capri]

90.

[Murder]

Classic time in 89 going to 90.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah. So there. And, you know, before that, it was the S and S Club. The SNS club was really where I started getting known at. Because that's where in the SNS Club is. You know, you need nothing to glorify, but it was the most killers and drug people and street people that you ever could meet. The top that you ever could meet. And they were all there at one place. And so I'm sitting in this place, looking at this thing and spending a year and a half there. I seen a lot after I left there, I started playing, you know, doing the Castle and doing. I was doing the Castle at the same time, but then doing the Castle and doing the Building downtown, doing my New York thing, and then started going out of town. The mixtape thing is what really took off for me. When that took off, it was like I was the soundtrack to the drug dealers.

[Murder]

So they shot at Slick Rick Carr, but he didn't get hit that day.

[Kid Capri]

Nah, he didn't get hit.

[Murder]

Okay, you went back to Slick Rick? No, no, I'm saying. Cause I mean, somebody said he got shot in the eye. I wanted to know if it was valid.

[Turbulence Tony]

It wasn't there, though.

[Murder]

Okay, I know, but he got his car got shot up. So now I'm visualizing Slick Rick, you know, with the jewelry on.

[Kid Capri]

In the Bronx, Rick would be by himself.

[Murder]

That's what I'm saying.

[Kid Capri]

And call a whole.

[Murder]

With all the jewelry on and call

[Kid Capri]

a whole team of dudes peasants, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was. That was like that, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, I think he might have did that in the Castle. And, you know, it was to these dudes that was kids that was up

[Murder]

in the Bronx, see?

[Kid Capri]

And it just jumped up. But nothing happened to Rick.

[Murder]

They just shot the whip up. Shorty got grazed with some gangster was going. He had all the jury on. Slick Rick had all the jury.

[Turbulence Tony]

You see how he talks so fast, like he know what happened? So he now he like, yo, yeah, set up the whip so he got grazed. You just told him. Like, you just told him. Now he acting like he already knew he had that set up the whip. So he got grazed. He just thought the got shot

[Murder]

talking. Let's keep it real. Murder. When happened in the hood, you hear five different stories. I heard the fifth story. Yo, he got shot in his eye. That's a shot. I'm like, how?

[Turbulence Tony]

He just ran with this story so fast. Yeah, so they shot the whip short. He got grades. My nigga said he don't even know if she got grades. He said he thick. But I like how you just ran with the.

[Kid Capri]

He came in the game with the eye patch.

[Murder]

Oh, wow.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah, man.

[Murder]

That was not valid info. But the car got shot up, so it was semi valid. Peasants. Slick Rick. Shout out to Slick Rick. I can see him doing that. You know, it's crazy, man, because we got Kid Capri, the legend that does this worldwide, you know. Talk about some of the places you've been in the world.

[Kid Capri]

I've been all over, man. I just. Well, I mean, Houston, too. I just got back from Houston yesterday. But I've been everywhere, man. I just came out from Africa. That was really crazy. I just came back from Mexico with Swiss beats and Alicia Keys. That was really big.

[Turbulence Tony]

Look at that.

[Kid Capri]

I've been all 52 states at one time. I was doing 250 shows of the year every year. First dude in hip hop to own a tour bus. So that's how much I was traveling.

[Murder]

That's why you so. I told you. He's so cocky, Jim.

[Kid Capri]

No, I'm saying it's the truth, though. Traveling so much with 52.

[Murder]

That's the soldier boy would have said, though.

[Kid Capri]

But it was. We was traveling with 15 crates of records on the plane all over. We just got tired of paying all that money and, you know, weight and all that. So we just said, we buy a tour bus so this way we could travel and everything will be safe. And that's what we did. But we was just going and going, and after the pandemic, when the pandemic came, was starting to leave, they started calling me to go back on the road. And, you know, I told the manager, like, I ain't doing on the dates that we were doing.

[Murder]

Say that again. 15 crates. You hear you? You hear them? DJs country, 15 crates. Rest in peace to my man, DJ Roughands, man.

[Kid Capri]

So that's why I was.

[Murder]

Learned about that. How many clubs you did that got shot up and somebody got to get the crates?

[Kid Capri]

Well, none of my clubs, none of my.

[Murder]

I'm just saying something happened.

[Kid Capri]

None of my joints, I never had shoes in. None of that stuff happened in my joints.

[Murder]

Well, back in the days, my man Ru, we going to hold them other joints. We not legendary like you okay? Rest in peace, my man. We would do the club shit in Queens. Then we get shot up and we got to get the 15 club.

[Kid Capri]

And yeah, fortunately, at none of my parties, I keep people occupied, so none of that shit happens. It's when everybody's standing around, get a chance to look at each other. Nobody's being busy. When you keep everybody busy, you can step on somebody's foot and. And it ain't no problem. But it's when everybody's in there and they on their phone and they looking at each other and shit pop off, and next thing you know, it goes where it goes. But we don't have that problem. We never had that reputation and shit happening in my events. You know what I'm saying? My events is my party. When you come to my joint, you don't see people with phones and shit. My shit's shaking. And people get lit. The word lit a little confused. They think lit means because it's crowded, it's lit. No, your shit ain't lit. Your shit is crowded. My shit is lit. You come to a kick, a pre event, shit shaking, you know, chick's hair falling out, ain't no phones and all that. People having a good time, and that's everybody.

[Murder]

I mean, you come from classic eras of music. Hip hop, the culture. I mean, you know, to me, the 80s and the 90s was like.

[Kid Capri]

But even with the new music, I mean, even I could play. I could do a whole trap set. And that is shaking, shaking, shaking. It doesn't matter.

[Turbulence Tony]

Look, talking about that, right, kid? Look, all the errors that you've been in from this hip hop shit. 80s, 90s, the 2000s, what album you feel like you could play with no skips.

[Kid Capri]

Like, classic album, no skips ever being Rakim, Paid in Full, Slick rick, Great Adventures, 50 Cent, Get Rich, Die Trying, Low End Theory, Tribe Called Quest. So many of them, you know what I'm saying?

[Turbulence Tony]

Okay.

[Kid Capri]

You know, like, go on and on.

[Turbulence Tony]

So got you.

[Kid Capri]

You know? But what happens is whatever you think

[Murder]

is the best between the 80s, 90s, and the 2000. That's the fucking question.

[Kid Capri]

Well, the 90s, nothing gonna be like the 90s. None's gonna be like, over the 80s.

[Murder]

Rakim, Big Daddy Kim.

[Kid Capri]

I'm not talking about as far as rap. I'm talking about as far as, like, the way hip hop went, you know, became bigger. But as far as, like, the beginning of it, nothing's gonna be that you're not gonna be. Matter of fact, even with records that came out, you ain't gonna be beat the beginning. You're not gonna beat the tapes of Cold Crush and Fantastic and Furious 5. When there was no rap records, when you went to the parties, there was just rappers playing breakbeats and the rapper rapping over the break. Beat the whole party and it be the baddest chicks in the party, you know what I'm saying? So that's the real shit. They didn't get the accolades that we got later on. They didn't make the money that we made. They didn't see the fame that we seen. But these are the dudes that built it. Without them, we wouldn't have jobs right now, you know what I'm saying? So that's why the older dudes I always respect, I never look at them as a down thing. I always look at them as my heroes.

[Murder]

Of course, they started the game. I always paid homage.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So you look at dudes like, dudes like Melly Mel, dudes like, you know what I'm saying? Just great MCs that, you know, that really put it down, you know, they deserve to be put on a pedestal.

[Murder]

Nah, the Bronx started the game, but, you know, Queens ran the game.

[Kid Capri]

Okay,

[Murder]

I'm on my cocky.

[Kid Capri]

Okay, go, go, go.

[Turbulence Tony]

On another note, right? Capri, who's your top five?

[Kid Capri]

I don't have no top five.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh, for real?

[Kid Capri]

Nah.

[Turbulence Tony]

Why you say that?

[Kid Capri]

Because. What are you talking about? You talking about top five rappers? You talking about top five fashion, top five record sellers? What are you talking about? Cause if you talking about top five rappers, ain't nobody beating battle rappers, if you ask me, you know what I'm saying? A lot of the top five rappers or a lot of the rappers that's in the game, get this shit from battle rappers, right? So that's one thing. Secondly, there's people that's in top five.

[Turbulence Tony]

How can you say that? Battle rappers, you have rappers that was

[Murder]

doing their thing before battle rap.

[Kid Capri]

I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about in the day and age right now, a lot of rappers that was rapping a certain way, they listened to battle rappers, and now they rapping that way. And that's the truth, you know what I'm saying? We ain't gonna sugar it for anyone. And he got a lot of technique from what battle rappers is doing. It's just that battle rappers always had a stigma that they couldn't make good records, you know what I'm saying? So that's why they wasn't really successful.

[Murder]

In making, well, battle rappers win in the 80s. What year we talking about?

[Kid Capri]

We talking about.

[Turbulence Tony]

We talking about right now. So you talking about the sound, how the music is.

[Kid Capri]

He feels right. You know what I'm saying? And just to speak to that, I made an album called Top Tier with all battle rappers. This is when I was trying to help the battle rapper get on this. Before the battle rapper thing blew up, I was trying to help him get on this was Smack left. We had shot some things, me and Lux, Lola Lux and a bunch of us, and we did some stuff. And then I, you know, was gonna do this deal with HBO and did some things. So I made this album called Top Tier that I never put out. But shit is incredible.

[Turbulence Tony]

You never put it out?

[Kid Capri]

Never put it out.

[Murder]

You know what I think?

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, I'm getting out battle rap because

[Murder]

you know what I think about battle rap? I think. Cause I'm a fan of Loaded, Lux, Murder, Mook, you know, everybody, DNA, the list goes on and on. Even if the female rappers, you know, I love them too. I feel like when you had the battles like Loaded, Lux and these guys, Murder Mooc and these guys were starting to make money, I think. And Smack was making all the money. It got kind of, you know, they had deals with, I think, Eminem, right? It was Eminem doing a show. So hold on, listen. When the bag came, they wasn't on YouTube no more. So when they was on YouTube, it was like, you can catch all the battles. And I think they was making so much money, like, to a point where they was making more than rappers. So what you saying is valid because they would say, now for Loaded, Lux, Murder, Mooc battle, I need 40,000.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah.

[Murder]

Like, now numbers started getting like. You start doing ridiculous promoters, they're like, yo, yeah, battles. And then you got rappers that, you know, like DNA and other rappers, Goods and all these other rappers, they're like, well, fuck it. We won 20, we won 30. We want 15 with their money.

[Kid Capri]

They bringing it?

[Murder]

No, I'm not saying not. But then it was just less battles.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah.

[Murder]

And then you wasn't seeing it on YouTube because there was a point where all we was watching was battle rap. Queen of the ring, the female battle raps. I was watching that. There was a time where that's always watching. But back to Kid Capri. Let's get back.

[Turbulence Tony]

He got into his battle rap. He got into his battle rap.

[Murder]

We're going to have some battle rappers up here.

[Kid Capri]

Quick to go back to your question. You ask me who the top fives Are like, so, like, yeah, like, there's great MCs, but there's a lot of times I hear top five lists, and the people that I think that should be in top five isn't perfect. I'll tell you. If you talking about rap skills, why isn't Twisted in top five? Why isn't Eminem in everybody's top five?

[Murder]

He is in my top five. Hold on.

[Kid Capri]

Mine, too. But why isn't he in everybody's top five? Right? So that's what I'm saying. It's all.

[Murder]

No, I can't.

[Kid Capri]

It's objective.

[Turbulence Tony]

You may let the brother, you may

[Murder]

like yourself, but he's bugging. He can't give me. So you mean to tell me no. Cause he's tripping. I'm gonna tell y'. All, look, I'm gonna tell you why. It's the real report. It's the real point. If you tell me in the 80s, who's my top five, we gonna have. I'm not. And there's no order. We gonna have Big Daddy Kane on the.

[Kid Capri]

That's in the 80s. That's ever.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's what I'm saying.

[Murder]

I could do 80s, 90s, 2000.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yo, somebody just said, yeah, yo, who's your top five?

[Kid Capri]

Right? You say, who's my top five?

[Murder]

In the top five?

[Kid Capri]

No, no, we gotta. Let's put this right. That's what you said. Let's put this right.

[Murder]

We can rewind it.

[Kid Capri]

And then he said, we ain't gotta rewind nothing. If somebody asks me, who's my top five? And they don't say in whatever. They just say, who's my top five? I'm thinking they saying, my top five. Best MCs of all time. If you say, who's the top five of the 80s? I'm gonna tell you exactly who's my top five. If you say, who's THE top five in the 90s, I'm gonna tell you, depending on what you're. Record sales or raps, some of these is top five because of how they dress. And they out here modeling, they ain't had a hit. Am I right?

[Murder]

All right.

[Kid Capri]

They get viral because they're. I don't. First of all, let's do this. I don't want to deal with. First of all, let's go here. I don't want to pay for. If I'm doing a show or something. I don't want to pay nobody because they. Because they popular. I want to pay because they get the job done. You'll be popular. Because you tripped over a goddamn rock on Tick Tock. And now tomorrow you viral and now they hire you to come in the club. And everybody's in the club watching you stand in a vi IP booth like they do with some of these chicks. Yeah, right. Nah, I'm paying for somebody that's gonna get the job done. My crowd gonna come. The crowd gonna be happy when they come. They. They paid their money and they left with times.

[Murder]

Eden, find the.

[Kid Capri]

Nah, ain't no different times.

[Murder]

Listen, no, hold on, let me give you. Edit, Edit. Find some got to remain the same. Find the mom that got popular on Tik Tok off that song. We at different times. Fonda, she's. It's a mother. Look it up, type it up. Mother that got popular off TikTok song. Everybody knows. I don't know the song. But we in different times where things are different.

[Kid Capri]

I'm not mad at the young.

[Murder]

Listen, listen.

[Kid Capri]

I'm not mad at the young kid that gets popular over some dumb shit. That's them. Listen, I want them to do good. They're going to make money for me. But I'm talking about as a grown man. I'm not walking around doing dumb shit to get popular. And if I want to work with somebody or pay somebody to come do something, I'm not going to pay them because they're popular for some dumb shit. I'm gonna pay them because they're gonna get the job that I need done, done, period. For whatever time it is. And if you don't like that, don't come. But I want part. I want people to get their money's worth when you come. That's why I pay for a DJ to open for a show for me everywhere I go. This is money I can keep in my pocket. I don't have to pay for no hotels and planes and all this shit for him. But I want people to get the best show they can. So I don't wanna walk in there hearing the song three, four times, you know what I'm saying? Where a lot of DJs are coming, play the popping shit at 10 o' clock at night when nobody's there because he wants to get. Get it on. And I hear that. But if you really thinking about the event, you thinking about the people. It's a strategy as a scientist, a science to everything that you do.

[Murder]

So what you thinking before you get on the set? Cause you one of the greatest DJs in the world. He's the best. We gotta give it to him as kid capri. He done this through the 80s.

[Kid Capri]

Don't say that. Cause I'm gonna get a bunch of comments. He ain't the best.

[Murder]

Well, I don't give a about that. I don't read comments, brother.

[Kid Capri]

I ain't the best.

[Murder]

He's the best. You the best. From the Castle to the Fever. Tell up this. Don't be modest. Cause you a cocky motherfucker. I told you.

[Turbulence Tony]

Killer shit.

[Murder]

Not even killer shit, man. Listen. Murder. When I first met Kee Capri, my experience was him. I never left the fucking hood. 50 flew me out to Cancun. He was signed to Columbia Tone and poking them. And what was the soundtrack for what was the movie with LL and the

[Kid Capri]

In Too Deep soundtrack?

[Murder]

In Too Deep soundtrack. Don't say pause.

[Kid Capri]

There's a story behind that.

[Murder]

Too Deep. It's a pause. Quiet. Yeah, support it. Too deep.

[Kid Capri]

Cool.

[Murder]

All right. Pause. It was a dope movie. And I never left the hood. I went to Cancun. 50 flew me out. I was out there. And this is when I knew, Kid. Capri is cocky. You're right. He's just cocky. Motherfucker, bro.

[Kid Capri]

He just cocky.

[Murder]

Stop. Did the best. He's the best, right? He knows he's the best. That's why I like him. But K. Capri came through, right? Chain swinging. He came through the crowd. Now, mind you, this is a show like Gloria Velez. It was mad shit going on. Girls was getting ate out on stage.

[Kid Capri]

Damn.

[Murder]

We could mute that or whatever.

[Turbulence Tony]

You guys.

[Murder]

This is my first time leaving the hood. Girls getting ate out on stage. I think it was Luke or one of them niggas up there. It was like, Luke. So this is like. What was that? Nine, seven.

[Turbulence Tony]

Shout out to Luke.

[Murder]

Yo, Luke. And it was like Gloria Velez with the girls was getting eight on stage. It was crazy. My first time leaving the hood. I'm in Cancun, Mexico. 50 got rowdy, rowdy, Rowdy, Rowdy. Look it up, y'.

[Turbulence Tony]

All.

[Kid Capri]

I produce.

[Murder]

He produced. He produced Rowdy, Rowdy, okay?

[Kid Capri]

We were selling the same label on Columbia.

[Turbulence Tony]

Got you.

[Kid Capri]

Now, the crazy. I didn't. I didn't even realize it until later, that movie. The first time I ever took an airplane ever, was to Boston, right? These drug dealer kids in Boston had me come out there and do some shows, right? First time I've been on the plane, Ironically, the drug dealers that brought me out there, the movie was about them.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh.

[Kid Capri]

The leader was LL that was G. Oh.

[Turbulence Tony]

From the In Too Deep movie.

[Kid Capri]

Pause. Right. Right. I didn't know that and I. And then on top of that, I produced the first record. Record, which was Rowdy. Rowdy. Fifth. I didn't know none of this shit until later on I realized who they were talking about. But, yeah, it was the dudes in Boston. That was the first time I've ever been on an airplane. Shout out to him. Shout out to all my guys and boys.

[Murder]

It's Rowdy. Rowdy. That's my first time. What's that? Nine, seven.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah.

[Murder]

My first time ever leaving the hood. Drug dealer. One, three, four. God brew a dirty.

[Kid Capri]

Leaving.

[Murder]

Yo. Fifth. Thank you. 50.

[Turbulence Tony]

And you met Kid Capri.

[Murder]

Kid Capri. Oh, yeah. Back to him being cop. He came through with the chain on. Chain swinging. He still got the hair now. Curly hair.

[Kid Capri]

I still got my hair, man. Still popping.

[Murder]

That's why niggas be mad at Kick Capri. We ain't gonna talk about it. So he came through. But he was came through. And I always. And this is nine, seven. And he fucked up. I fucked his head up. He didn't think. I remember that he had the brown skin chick with the super fatty, like before the bbl. He too cocky. That's why all these niggas, man. I told you. Cocky, bro. Kick is cocky. He's a legend. But he's a cocky motherfucker, bro.

[Kid Capri]

F, man, how was it?

[Murder]

Not so.

[Kid Capri]

Don't put the wrong thing out now.

[Murder]

You know I'm always, you know. We got Brooklyn in the house.

[Turbulence Tony]

Brooklyn.

[Murder]

So how was it, cuz? I know you did some things with Biggie. How was that, man?

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[Kid Capri]

Hey, everyone, check out this guy and his bird.

[Murder]

What is this, your first date? Oh, no.

[Liberty Mutual Spokesperson]

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[Murder]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.

[Liberty Mutual Spokesperson]

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[Murder]

Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty.

[Kid Capri]

I did shows with Biggie.

[Murder]

We ain't no show. That's what I want to do, shows.

[Kid Capri]

I remember one show I did.

[Murder]

I just want to hear about backstage with Biggie, you know, I remember one

[Kid Capri]

time we was backstage, he was in the car, right? And I came up to the car, he was sitting there. Biggie was cool. I was sitting there. I was like, yo, I'm proud of you. You proud of me? I said, yeah, I'm proud of you. So I'm about to tear this shit down, kid. I was like, I know he had a purple suit on. It was me, him and R. Kelly.

[Murder]

Oh, shit. See, this is why I love this fucking shit.

[Kid Capri]

And he fucking got on stage. When he walked on stage, that shit just said, I never heard a war like that. Like, it was like a real. Like a. It was like. It was. I'd never heard that shit before, but it was so crazy when he got on stage. This was in Detroit. When I seen that shit, man, it was like, yo, this. This is massive because you just seen the people, like, people just throwing people and shit. And I had experience like that in the Garden when I did the Garden, you know? Shook this shit so crazy.

[Murder]

You did the Garden?

[Kid Capri]

With who?

[Murder]

Who was that?

[Kid Capri]

I did the Garden many times, but the one time I did it was when Aaliyah, when I went on tour with Aaliyah.

[Turbulence Tony]

Rest in peace, Aaliyah.

[Kid Capri]

I had. We came in the Garden, and I would come out. Well, through the whole tour, I would come out. She had. We had. It was five people on the tour. It was Mary J. Blige, Bone Thugs N Harmony, Aaliyah Genuine, and Drew Hill. So every. Aaliyah had a dancing show, so they wanted somebody to come with the energy. So that's why they came and got me to come in the middle of a show. So we would do this the whole tour. When we got to the Garden, they oversold the garden. Like 8,000 seats. The whole bottom. That shit was just crazy. So I seen Busta Rhymes in the back, and this was right when. Put your hands where I could see. Just dropped. I said, yo, I'm bringing you on stage. And he was like, word. I was like, yeah, but I ain't got the record. I turned, I seen Flex. I said, flex, I need to put you. Put your hands where I can see. Joint gave me the record. I go on stage, I do this 15 minute set. Shaking this motherfucker to the man was so crazy. Then I stopped. I said, yo, I ain't done. And then I dropped. Put your hands where I could see him. Buster come wiggling his ass out there. To this day. To this. Yeah. Pause. To this day, me and Buster talk about the wind that we felt from people screaming at us on it was the. I'm glad he was there to witness that shit. Cause if I was by myself, nobody would believe that shit. He brings it up like, yo, kid, do you remember the fucking wind from the people screaming at us? It was so crazy. Murder My daughter's mother, Vena, Love mother at the time she was at the show, used to go all the garden shows. She said, kid, I was there. She said, I never seen no shit like that. She said it looked like people were throwing people. She was like, this shit was just shit.

[Murder]

But yo, kid, not to fast forward. Cause working with Aaliyah is crazy. But I'm just still visualizing.

[Kid Capri]

But to do that for. But the point that I was about to make, to do that for Aaliyah, that was. And to see what the outcome for Aaliyah was, that's something that's always going to be forever. You know what I'm saying? That's the bigger. That's the part of it. It wasn't so much to show I was able to do that for her. You know what I'm saying?

[Murder]

And then, kid, when you say Biggie and R. Kelly, did they. Do you must be used to me spend. Did they come out to that or Biggie did some other.

[Kid Capri]

No.

[Turbulence Tony]

Well, yeah.

[Kid Capri]

No, no, no. I had left by. That. I had about left by the time R. Kelly came out. R. Kelly was last. I already had left. I left in the middle.

[Murder]

Oh, so Biggie didn't. Biggie didn't bring R. Kelly out at that point?

[Kid Capri]

No, it was. It was. The show was me, Biggie and R. Kelly. So R. Kelly was coming out last. But I don't know if R. Kelly came out with Biggie or Biggie came back out where R. Kelly already had left.

[Turbulence Tony]

Got you.

[Murder]

That is crazy. That's why we bring this guy.

[Turbulence Tony]

But I was also.

[Kid Capri]

I was also on tour with R. Kelly and Salt and Pepper. That tour was ridiculous. That was.

[Murder]

Who with? Who.

[Kid Capri]

Who said Salt and Pepper and R. Kelly. It was Salt and Pepper's tour.

[Murder]

What year was that?

[Turbulence Tony]

God damn.

[Kid Capri]

That was.

[Murder]

That's why I like, see, we bring the legends on this show.

[Kid Capri]

That was.

[Murder]

Let me see your light up, man. What year we did that classic shit, right?

[Kid Capri]

That was 94. Then we did the Budweiser Super Fest tour, all the deaf comedy jam tours. We did the. The.

[Murder]

How was it with Salt and Pepper? Because, you know, they was like the first sex symbols back in the days.

[Kid Capri]

It was crazy.

[Murder]

Remember when Pushy came out? Oh, God. Yo, they was like. They had the tight leather shout out to Salt and Pepper Spinderella.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah.

[Murder]

I always debate over which DJ is

[Turbulence Tony]

which, because I remember Step Comedy Gym. Man, take us back to those days, kid.

[Kid Capri]

That was crazy.

[Murder]

Word. No, that was classic.

[Kid Capri]

I forgot.

[Murder]

Good one. Murder. Let me see a lighter. Merc. That, that was a good one because I forgot about Def Shaman Jam.

[Kid Capri]

To be there with autumn dudes, man. Like you gotta keep in mind, like Def Comedy Jam before Def Comedy Jam, it was Eddie Murphy, it was Richard Pryor, it was Red Fox, it was the standards. It was in the whole big lane for comedians. So Def Comedy Jam gave a stage that was real funny and real dope in their own city. They never had no outlet, you know what I'm saying? So when it got there, it gave up an outlet on a big stage. And then you got me this DJ on the show that. You know what I'm saying, it just gave it a different kind of feel to the shit. And the real party was before the cameras went on. That was when the real shit was popping. That's when the party was shaking in there. And then when the cameras went on, it became funny time. But the whole shit was dope. And we went on a tour, we went on Def Comedy Jam tour. That's when they really got a chance to really see.

[Murder]

So how was it name? How it was bond? Being around everybody, being the spirit. Hear backstage, cuz Martin backstage with Bernie Matt. We want to hear them stories. How was it around Bernie Matt? How was it around Martin? Who else was on there? It's a list. Look him up. Eden, you the moderator, right?

[Turbulence Tony]

You gotta let my man kick a pre talk, right?

[Murder]

I'm letting him talk, but I'm letting him moderate too. Find out all the people that was on de comedy doing over there. Find out all the people tell what

[Turbulence Tony]

you was about to tell us about Bernie Max.

[Murder]

I was in war with Bernie Max,

[Kid Capri]

Rick Martin, Bernie, right? That motherfucker was funny all day. Like you'd be on the tour bus with Bernie and he'll have you laughing the whole trip, you know, he put his little stocking cap on and he have his Heineken in his hand and shit. And motherfucker would tell jokes the whole trip, like through cities and shit. And you go to sleep in your bunk and now he go fuck with the bus driver and make him laugh to where he gotta pull over and shit. Cause he laughing like he was naturally like that. And he'll do that, get to the city, get on stage, shut that shit down, host the whole show, shut that shit down, get back on the bus and do the shit all over again. This was him every day, you know what I'm saying? I have videos and all kind of shit from us backstage and all kind of shit. So you know, to see them. I remember one time When Chris Tucker, he got on my tour bus, we took my tour bus out and Chris Tucker got on the bus. Chris Tucker was hot on Def Comedy. Jamie, he sat on my bus, he said, yo, I ain't never been on the tour bus before. Yo, this is crazy. I've never seen no like this before. Look at that. Two years later, he was making $20 million, making moves.

[Murder]

Crazy.

[Kid Capri]

Two years later. the time, I was getting paid more than he was.

[Turbulence Tony]

Look at that.

[Kid Capri]

You know what I'm saying? So could happen in an instant, you know, depending on how much ground you put into it. That comedy jam put those dudes out. Because today you see everybody, Cap, We Ain't lying.

[Turbulence Tony]

Everybody, all these dudes, everybody that came

[Kid Capri]

up, that came from that, you know what I'm saying? So it was a big platform for, for all of us.

[Murder]

What's the list? What's the list of everybody who's done?

[Kid Capri]

Hell yeah.

[Murder]

That's crazy.

[Turbulence Tony]

I remember Kevin Hart from Death Comedy Gym.

[Murder]

Kevin Hart was Tiffany Hadish.

[Kid Capri]

That's the tip of the iceberg.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah. Cuz there was so many.

[Kid Capri]

There's the ones that didn't make it big, you know what I'm saying? You know, the Charles, Charlie Burnett and like, people like that that didn't make it with the big name and them was incredibly funny as shit, you know what I'm saying? And they tore the shit down, you know, but everybody couldn't go. It was so many, we gave so many a platform.

[Turbulence Tony]

What surprised you the most on stage?

[Kid Capri]

I'll tell you who surprised me as a guest the most. And that was Dolomite. When Dolomite popped his ass out there, that shit was, was like Dolomite. Dolomite was on Def Comedy Jam.

[Murder]

Get out of here.

[Kid Capri]

Crazy. I was like, oh, Rudy Raymore, he was on there. I was like, wow. So, yeah, we brought a lot of people out and everything. Like. And the great thing is when you seen the guests, all the guests that was there. But you know, the crazy thing is a lot of shows I've done, you know, I've had Michael Jack, Michael Jordan sitting right next to me while I'm tearing down. That's crazy, you know what I'm saying? Like, place that, you know, that's dope. People don't like Donald Trump. I'm not a Donald Trump supporter. None of that or what he does. Nothing against, I'm not political or nothing. But I did a party in Donald Trump's house. I did Martha Stewart's first hip hop party. Like, you know what I'm saying, like, I did a lot of shit that

[Murder]

people don't really know, right?

[Kid Capri]

It was crazy, you know? And at the end of the day, you know, God put you in the position, so you just do what you do sometimes, you know, we have to talk about it, just keep going, you know?

[Turbulence Tony]

Definitely.

[Murder]

That's crazy, bro. You ever work with Michael Jackson?

[Kid Capri]

Nah. But I. I was on the show when we did the. When we did the BET Awards, when we did the tribute to Jam Master J, Rest in Peace, Jam Master James Brown. And Michael Jackson was on that show. I met James. Me and James talked for a while. I didn't get a chance to met. But Janet Jackson, Tito Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, I know all of them. I know Jackie, I know Marlon. I just did it. I just did. They just had me come to do the house, their house in Indiana, in Gary, Indiana. I just came and did an event there for them. Met Marlon and Jackie there. So Janet, Janet. How I met Janet? We were going, me and Jim, we was at the airport, we was on our way, going to North Carolina, go do a show. Met Janet, huh? Right. That's how it went down. We walking into the airport and her husband, at the time, I forgot his name, light skinned dude. He walks up to me, I didn't know who he was. He says, yo, my wife is a big fan of yours. She wants to meet you. I was like, who's your wife? He was like, she's in the van, come to the van. I come to the van, she opens the door, she says, yo, I seen Jen. I was like, oh. She said, I'm your biggest fan.

[Turbulence Tony]

Biggest fan.

[Kid Capri]

I fell in my face.

[Turbulence Tony]

I bet.

[Kid Capri]

She invited me to the show. We went to the show because I had a show in North Carolina. She had a show in the same city we was at, but husbands in the daytime. So we went there, me and MC Light, got on stage at her show, and then I did my show that night, and then I came and did a birthday party. So they cool family, man. Graceful family, man, you know, being rooms

[Murder]

you never thought you'd be in, man. Being one of the best DJs in the world. And not only a DJ, you know. I said Grammy nominated backstage, and Jim and him corrected me, he won a Grammy. So make some noise for that.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh, shit. Okay. All right. Okay. Should I talk about.

[Murder]

Talk about that?

[Kid Capri]

Yeah. Well, how that happened, that was kind of by default, right? I was doing an album. I'm tell you what I mean by that. I was doing an album called Soundtrack to The Streets, right? My first album was Kicking Pretty Tate, where I rhymed on the whole album. I wasn't really into making album when I got that album, Bismarck. Bismarck got me that first album deal on Warner Brothers, right? But he got me the album deal based on I was hot in the street for my mixtapes. I wasn't looking for no album deal, right? So he got me the album deal. Six years later, I decided to do another album where I wanted to be a producer. I wanted to be like the Quincy Jones of hip hop. So I got a deal with Columbia to do this album called Soundtrack to the Streets. Jay Z was on the album on the first record. It's like that. At the same time, we was on the Puff tour and I was playing this track on a plate that 45 King did the beat to, which was Hard Knock Life. That record, Hard Knock Life, was gonna put him on the Soundtrack to the Streets album. While I was playing in the arena. Jay heard it. Yo, kid, what's that? It's the Hard Knock Life.

[Murder]

Shit crazy.

[Kid Capri]

He's like, yo. I was like, all right. I put him on the phone with much 45 king. Two weeks later, he had the record. So I gave it to him. You know, no big deal. I'm not saying anything, but it was going to go on my album.

[Turbulence Tony]

Gotcha gave it to Jay.

[Kid Capri]

It probably worked out better.

[Turbulence Tony]

I gave it to him more than

[Kid Capri]

it was for me, you know what I'm saying? But that's the way, you know, went. And it blew up, man. So. Because it's like that record, my record that was on my album with Jay, he licensed it on that same album. So that's how I won the Grammy. That's what I mean by default.

[Turbulence Tony]

All right, gotcha.

[Kid Capri]

You know what I'm saying now?

[Turbulence Tony]

But that's still dope as, hey, I'm great.

[Kid Capri]

Shout out to J.

[Murder]

That's crazy. So we take it to, you know, to the. You know, he been around all these people, you know, James Brown. But I did my homework on you. Back in the days, I heard you used to go to Harlem, you know what I mean? In the Benzes. I don't know if you had the Benz, the bm, but they said you had some shit. This is the word on the streets. Used to go to Harlem. Cause we gonna go to the mixtape era. Cause the mixtape era is as important as you was talking about battle rap. I love battle rap, but the mixtape era is important, you know, Kid Capri Ron G. Shout out to Kid. Hold on. Shout out to Kid Capri, Ron G, Grandmaster Vic Dog time, my man, D.J. roughands, the Rockaway twins, you know, I mean, D.J. goldfingers, tape master. When niggas was going to the club, Jdell and Relo, when was going to the club bringing 15 or 20 crates, Kikapri is in that race.

[Kid Capri]

Shout out to all of them.

[Murder]

And I heard. Cause ron G, number 10. You and Ron G is like two of my favorites. Shout out to Ron G. What? Ron G, number 10 was a classic, you know what I'm saying? That's when Tim Dog went against the West Coast. He had Compton first. Bronx, you know, Bronx was always crazy. Shout out to the px. I love Compton. I'm not dissing Compton. But he was the first to like, go at Compton in the 80s. I remember. You remember that, right? But I heard you used to sell tapes to, like, all the biggest drug dealers. Rich, Al, Po, Fritz, Guy Fisher. Is this true? Like out the trunk of the Benz or the BMW or. Just explain that. Express that to me. Cause I like that.

[Kid Capri]

Like I said, what happened was start. Let's start here. Hollywood Love Bug, Starsky, Chief Rocker, Starchild and Brucey B. Legend. They were the mixtape gods in New York.

[Murder]

Legends.

[Kid Capri]

Legends, right? So Star Child was playing in the SNS club. The SNS Club was a club that not anybody was just allowed to be in because of the people that was in there. Right? Right. So when I got in there, I'm like, oh, I'm looking at. I'm seeing who's who. I know who's who. I know what's what, you know what I'm saying? And me and Star, Star playing Star was making the mixtapes for them. Me and him start making a mixtape together. When I stopped playing with Starr, I kept making the mixtapes. But I seen something bigger than New York, you know what I'm saying? I seen it bigger. I seen it going out, and I decided I'm gonna sit on the street corner in front of Rucker or the street corner on 145th street next to Willie Burgers, and sell the mixtapes for $20. So I would go to Trader hall and buy a case of tapes, a dollar a tape, and come out, sell them $20 a tape, make $2,000 an hour. I was doing this shit every day, you know what I'm saying? These niggas were selling $20 cracks. I'm selling $20 mixtapes. Right, right. So with that being said, it gave me an awareness. Right?

[Murder]

But Alpo and Rich and them was buying your tapes.

[Kid Capri]

Alpo would come to my joint and buy the tape for me for 500.

[Murder]

See, this is what I'm talking about.

[Kid Capri]

Because he wanted to own. He wanted the tape that nobody had while I was recording. So he'll say, he'll, yo, kid, I'll give you 100. Nah, 200, kid.

[Murder]

Yo.

[Kid Capri]

3. Finally they had to take the tape out. So I'll give him tape. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but that's how it went. It was. Them things was. It was like the soundtrack to the drug dealers. Because when they heard their shout out on their name on the shot on the mixtape, and they going down the street playing on that crazy system, it made them feel like a star. Got you. You know what I'm saying? So I had one dude tell me, he was like, yo, when I. When I dress, if I ain't have a mixtape, a kickapri mixtape on me, I didn't feel fly, like it was part of the dressing. You know what I'm saying? Like your chain. You know what I mean?

[Murder]

So it wasn't like niggas paid you for the shout out. They was just paying extra.

[Kid Capri]

No. Yeah, right, exactly.

[Murder]

My tapes paying extra. But that paying extra was like paying for the shout out.

[Kid Capri]

No, no. My tapes were $20. But there was people that would come and just give me $1,000, give me 500 just because of what I was doing. There would be dudes that want this tape. There was only one left. He want. He want to give me 300. This dude gonna give me 600 for it because he don't want him to have.

[Murder]

It was coming through too.

[Kid Capri]

It was crazy.

[Murder]

Which Porter too on the ocean.

[Kid Capri]

Oh, Rich would come through every now and then. No, Az, AZ will come through. A will come through.

[Murder]

Because, you know, that was classic times.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, I see A after all that, all those years after. I see A is A still chilling.

[Murder]

But you was driving the BMW or the Benz.

[Turbulence Tony]

Who, me?

[Murder]

Yeah. No, you was looking like a drug dealer.

[Kid Capri]

You know what I was doing?

[Turbulence Tony]

I'm gonna tell you what I did.

[Kid Capri]

I pulled up right on 145th Street. Everybody out here with all their cars. I borrowed my man's orange camera. What was that shit Camaro? I bought that shit. Pulled up right up in front of Woolly Burgers, jumped up on the hood, sat right there. Everybody was like, you crazy, kid. Everybody out there with fly shit. I had an orange Camaro out there. Some ugly shit. I ain't care about none of that. I still don't care about that today. I Drive a Wrangler. I could drive what I want. I drive a Wrangler, bro. I don't care. Remember, I owned two tour buses. I never cared about cars. I've had cars that stayed factory. Never put no rims on them. Then I put a system in it. But I don't care about that stuff. I care about other things, you know,

[Turbulence Tony]

Legacy making shit happen.

[Murder]

So how was it coming up in the Bronx? Cause, you know, you came up in the Bronx.

[Kid Capri]

I mean, coming up in the Bronx is the Bronx. I lived in a good part of the Bronx, living Kingsbridge, you know what I'm saying? Right next to Riverdale, which I moved to Riverdale later. It wasn't, you know, rough like the South Bronx, but we ain't take no shit. Couldn't come to that block with no dumb shit. And ones that did left their bag. So it was definitely a area where everybody took care of each other. Everybody looked out for each other. Everybody was straight, you know? And then I opened up a hair shop over there called evanesce unisex for 10 years.

[Murder]

Oh, wow.

[Kid Capri]

Me and. Me and Curtis Smith. Curtis Smith was a celebrity hairstylist. He, you know, always going back, just making sure everything's good out there. But. Yeah, but we always had a good time. Never been no real problems in the Bronx, man.

[Turbulence Tony]

Fast forward, right? How did you connect with Kendrick Lamar?

[Kid Capri]

My guy, he reached out when he was doing the damn album. So when he came out to New York, I met him in the studio and he gave me an idea what he wanted to do. I gave him some ideas what he should do. And what. What surprised me about Kendrick is how smart he was and how much history he knew. Because I said this in another interview when I asked him, I said, yo, you could have had DJ Poole or Battle Cat, one of them legends out there in the west coast, to come and do this. Why you didn't call them? And his response was, I know what you did for the music business. I know what you did for DJs. I know what you did as a whole. A lot of people wouldn't be eating if you didn't do what you did. So I wanted that authenticity on the album. I was like, wow, look at that. You know what I'm saying?

[Turbulence Tony]

That's dope.

[Kid Capri]

It was dope for him, you know, he really did his homework, you know what I'm saying? So that's where it impressed me the most. Real smart, laid back, calm dude, you know what I'm saying? And really focused, you know what I'm saying, yo, I'm older than him, and I look up to him, you know what I'm saying? Really good at what he does.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's dope.

[Murder]

I didn't even know you was in the studio with him. That's crazy.

[Turbulence Tony]

On the project, man. On the damn project, man.

[Murder]

You produced it or you just.

[Kid Capri]

No, I just did. I narrated the album. I did about five joints. Yep.

[Turbulence Tony]

Gotta do your homework, mister.

[Kid Capri]

Yay.

[Murder]

Man, I knew the Box.

[Turbulence Tony]

I knew about the Rich and Outpost, all this. I know Kid Caprice, but you ain't know he was on Kendrick Lamar album.

[Kid Capri]

All these new records I got coming out, too.

[Murder]

We off camera, we brothers. That's why I said kick Capri talk all the.

[Turbulence Tony]

He was talking back there. That lights, camera in this music business, right? And you've been doing business for so long. Has anybody ever owed you money, kid, that you find it hard to get?

[Kid Capri]

Bunch of owe me money today. Today. That's why I don't get nobody no more.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh, got you.

[Kid Capri]

Because what happens is, I'm not gonna ask you for it. I'm just gonna remember I gave it to you.

[Turbulence Tony]

Got you. Got you.

[Kid Capri]

You know what I'm saying? And that's the problem, you know? You know, now, depending on what it really is, how much it is, I may come and be like, yo, what's that?

[Turbulence Tony]

We got to do something.

[Kid Capri]

But if it's something that I could do without, it's all good. Hey, for whatever it was, it got you away from me. I ain't gotta worry about you no more.

[Turbulence Tony]

Got you, got you. Got you.

[Murder]

Yo, talk about, you know, shout out to my man Dream. Shout to Kid Capri. He's not only a producer, he's a rapper, you know, Shout to the New York Knicks. Cause he's on his New York shit.

[Kid Capri]

This dude right here. Let me tell you what happened. Let me just talk some shit. Cause J, yo didn't want me to tell you. He didn't want me to say nothing.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh, shit. Well, he didn't want you to say. You definitely got to say.

[Kid Capri]

He didn't want me to say shit, all right?

[Murder]

Allegedly.

[Kid Capri]

This is when I dropped Live from New York, right? I ain't even dropped live from New York yet. He heard Shout to Robbie Rob. Robbie Rob had hit me on the FaceTime. He was with Robbie Rob, and I was playing Live from New York on the FaceTime. Yayo heard that shit and was like, yo, play that shit again. Played it again. He got right on the phone and called Dre, yo, Dre, I need you to make sure this shit is rocking in the States, in the Garden.

[Murder]

Master Square Garden.

[Kid Capri]

Master Square Garden. Now listen, the record wasn't even.

[Turbulence Tony]

You about to give this nigga some props right now.

[Kid Capri]

Yo, I'm giving it to him crazy. The record wasn't even out yet. It was two weeks before the record was even coming out. This was rocking in the Garden. The was all. And they were playing, playing it while they playing the game.

[Murder]

Playoffs, baby.

[Kid Capri]

Then they called me down there to come do a bunch of for the Garden, all that. This wasn't even out yet. So this bro, he really set it off for me for that record before I even got a chance. And now the smart thing was I didn't want people to think it was a New York Knicks record in case they lost. So I waited to for them to see if they were going to lose a win before I dropped the real video out.

[Murder]

Murder. At the end of the day, I had to sound the ear. This guy is a dope producer. He's a rapper, you know what I'm saying? And he's the number one dj.

[Kid Capri]

So that was a dope look. He did that.

[Murder]

So when you go back to battle rappers, I think when battle rappers, the most challenge for them is when they make records. People look at them as one in one pocket. But when you look at Kid Capri, you look at him as more as top tier DJ in the world instead of looking at him as a rapper or a producer. You understand what I'm saying?

[Turbulence Tony]

Got you pass my lighter.

[Murder]

Oh, definitely, I got you. I was about to steal it, you know what I mean? But you know what I mean? Like they look at him as yo, he's number one producer. Because when he get on them turntables and you hear Kid Capri, you know,

[Kid Capri]

the party DJing, you know, there's, there's just. What I do is the party DJ, it's all kind of DJing, you know what I'm saying? I'm not the best. I'm the best at what I do, you know what I'm saying? What I do set the tone for what you see everybody doing.

[Murder]

Yes.

[Kid Capri]

Kick a pre in them, you know what I'm saying? They got some kind of blueprint or something for my chemistry or what I've done. So I mean, I ain't got to sell that to nobody. Everybody knows that. You know, people that probably did my style got it from somebody else that don't know they got it from me. It is what it is. I'm glad to be able to have that influence on people to do that. You know what I'm saying? That's a. That's a gift. You know what I'm saying? But at one time, I ain't like that. One time, I was like, why everybody doing my shit? Fuck is everybody doing my shit for? Find your own shit. I ain't coming sounding like boosie. I ain't coming sound like star. And I came. I found my own shit, and I moved with it, and it worked. Find your shit. Be influenced, but don't be. Don't copy. We don't come from that. Right? But what are you gonna do? You know what I'm saying? So once I got over that and really looked at it for what it was, it was like, yo, kid, you influenced the world, B. You really did that shit. Like, you really did that shit. So once I got into that, it was like, yeah, gotcha. That's dope. You know what I'm saying?

[Turbulence Tony]

Now, you entertained radio for a little bit, but you was never like the big radio DJ guy like that. Why you didn't choose that path? Why you ain't pursue that?

[Kid Capri]

Because everything for me is a stepping stone. The mixtape was a stepping stone. It wasn't a career move. Def Comedy Jam was a stepping stone. It wasn't a career move. Even though we had a dope career doing it, we was always. We was on for nine different seasons. I would have kept going for nine more, but it was a stepping stone. It was the next thing. It's always the album, and then, you know, the next thing, you know. I always try to innovate. This is why I didn't. I don't. I try not to follow. I try to give something that people might want that they never seen before. Because we. Especially in right now, we have an abundance of everybody doing everybody, everything. Everybody's a rapper, everybody's a stripper. Everybody's a. Everybody's everything. Everybody got something to fucking say. Everybody. Everybody. No, there's nothing wrong with the podcast. It's who's doing it.

[Murder]

That's right.

[Kid Capri]

That's. That's what it is.

[Murder]

Just like, everybody ain't kick Capri.

[Kid Capri]

Everybody can't do everything. You know what I'm saying? You know, like. Like the album thing. Now everybody's supposed to be making albums. That's why the album narrative went down. Because make an album and have 12 garbage records on there and one good song.

[Murder]

So now you go get the one good song. That's what. Listen. Who do we blame? Do we bring radio? Do we blame the DJs. Because that's what they changed the game into. I look at it like this. Listen, hold on. Let me say my point.

[Turbulence Tony]

You ain't even say nothing yet, brother.

[Murder]

No. Cause I'm on Kikapri. See, why I think the 80s was the classic era for hip hop for me is because it was all about New York City, right? You had KRS1, you had Eric B. Rakim, Big Daddy, King, Slick Rick, Kumo D. You have records like you have Self Destruction. You have Steph Static.

[Kid Capri]

That's a sonic.

[Murder]

Yeah, saying it wrong. You had a couple of drinks. Let's name more. You had DJ Red Alert. You had what's My Man?

[Turbulence Tony]

The list goes on and on.

[Murder]

It's so many DJs. It. For me, the 80s was like. And then you always gotta say Ralph McDaniels. Cause I'm the. That absolutely was in the crib when I hear that.

[Kid Capri]

You don't get the credit he deserves.

[Turbulence Tony]

He definitely don't, man.

[Murder]

He's. Before bet all this.

[Kid Capri]

He don't get the credit. Ralph McDaniel, he don't get the credit.

[Murder]

When you used to hear that,

[Kid Capri]

it

[Murder]

was like at that point, that was

[Kid Capri]

like on Soul Train.

[Murder]

Yeah, as a word, as a kid, soul trained in that. Soul Train was on Saturday. You want to look on that for the chicks. That's when you see girls in tight outfits as a kid. You know what I mean? But, like, when I heard that. And Big Daddy Kane is on there with the big chain, right? Hey, welcome to Don Slick Rick. Like, for me, like, even Run DMC classic shit for me was It's Christmas time in Hollis, Queens, Mom's cooking chicken. Cause that was like a Christmas song, like a Christmas album. That was just for me. Those are like the best times in my life, man. The 80s, man. Block parties, DJs scratching, you know, there was actual turn. Like, for me. I don't know how to mess with CDJS or nothing. My man, Rough Hands. And like, I went to Grandmaster Vic parties. Like, I went to Jamaica Avenue to buy mixtapes, dog. Tom. Grandmaster Vic. Then here came Clue. You changed the game. We fuck with you, Clue. You changed the game. I like blends, you know what I'm saying? I like. We had Our Share. That's the Queen's anthem. Uh, troubles. I was in them parties, Grandmaster. So for me, I was like, yo, this is classic hip hop. Rest in peace to Freaky Ty, the Lost Boys, Remember when they came, I was around. Like, I was in the streets, like, listening to that. But as a kid, Ralph McDaniels, bro. Talk about that, man. Like Ralph McDaniels, that time in hip hop, to me, the 80s was just all about New York.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, he deserved it, man. He deserved to get more recognition than he got, man, you know what I'm saying? Cause he really put it in, you know what I'm saying? He really put like. He really care about it, you know what I'm saying? And that be the problem would be the ones that really care about it that don't get the recognition that they're supposed to, and the ones that really don't give a shit. You know, they come to the show late. You know, they think they get on stage with a thousand people. They come, do two songs, they rhyming over, they record. They don't really care, you know what I'm saying? They care about the wow factor. Look at me. I'm here. Look at me. It become that, you know what I'm saying? You could tell when somebody that is on stage and they like. I don't like to put myself in it, but I have to use it. When I'm on stage, I look at myself as if I'm in the crowd watching me. And what would make me like me? What would make me want to come back and watch me again? What would make a promoter pay to have me come back again? What would make these people pay again to come see me again, you know what I'm saying? So I become them. It's never about me. And a lot of times, a lot of different artists and people, it becomes about them. And that's where the fall off comes at. They might be popping for that minute, but as soon as they think it's about them, that's when you see the fall off come. It's never about you because these are the people that put the money in your pocket to pay your light. So how do you not give them the best you can give them? How do you not be humble enough to show that they're part of you and they're inclusive, you know what I'm saying? We not fucking better than nobody. We just got a better job. We might have a better job, but we. And tickle and kick a breath.

[Murder]

Stop being modest. You're better.

[Kid Capri]

Just the real shit, though.

[Murder]

You're better than everybody, but it's the real shit, though.

[Turbulence Tony]

It's the real.

[Murder]

I don't want to hear that.

[Kid Capri]

I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

[Murder]

I don't want to hear this. Modest. Yo, listen, bro. No, this is what I'm hearing. Since you being one of the greatest ever, all time, right? What the fuck is the mindset of, like. Cause being a DJ is the toughest job. People say being a rapper is the toughest, but being a DJ is the toughest job. Y' all might get shot at less, of course, right? But definitely, yeah, y' all get shot at less. So y' all a little bit better than the rapper. But think about this. What's the mindset? I'm Kid Capri, right? Okay. How do I work this crowd? Am I going reggae? Am I going hip hop? Am I going R and B? Am I going Spanish music? Like, how does a dj. Cause you know what I'm saying? How do you know how to move the crowd? Like, what would be your advice to a DJ? Like, if I was DJing and I'm in fucking London, what are you gonna tell me? Play Afrobeats? Or if I'm in New York, in Harlem? Like, what is. Tell me what's the mindset? That's what I wanna know.

[Kid Capri]

For years and years, I've been doing this shit. I've been traveling all over, right? It's your job to know what's going on in that city. So I will call the top DJ out in the city or the promoter out in the city and say, yo, what's poppin? What's the top 10 things popping in that city? And by the time I get to that city, I'm doing that. And those people are surprised because these records, if I'm playing, let's say there's music. Those records are never heard nowhere else. They just pop it in that one city. And it's an underground thing, right? So when I come and play that shit, they're like, how the fuck he knows that?

[Murder]

Oh, you do your homework.

[Kid Capri]

It been like that.

[Murder]

How do you play that record first?

[Kid Capri]

Yeah. So when I play it, the crowd is losing.

[Murder]

Oh, you're a genius.

[Kid Capri]

And this is all over. If I'm in Alaska, I know what's popping in Alaska.

[Murder]

Thank you for the secret. Yeah, I just gave y'.

[Turbulence Tony]

All.

[Kid Capri]

I just gave y' all 101 just now.

[Murder]

That's crazy.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah, I do Kid Capri make the transition to rapping now. Cause now you rap. I even get a lot of, what, like dms on Instagram or a lot of ads. And I'll be thinking I'm getting, like, a personal message like, yo, what's up my? But it'd be like, nah, nigga, check out this new. I'm spitting, like, what's good? So how the Transition happened with that kid.

[Kid Capri]

It never was a transition. My first. Before there was a. Before there was a Rough Riders, a Cash Money, a no Limit, a Bad boy. Kick It Pre had a rap album Kicking Pre the Tape. Oh, okay, right.

[Murder]

So do your homework.

[Kid Capri]

Rap records never been my bread and butter. I make rap records cause I want to DJ shit always been my bread and butter, right? So I didn't make records every year, you know what I'm saying? You know, like that. So like I said, when I did the first album, it was a rap album. The second album was a production album. I only rhymed on the album twice. My next album after that was 24 years ago, which was 24 years later, which is the Love album, which I put out in 2022. Since then, I've been putting records out up until last week, but I only have three, four albums. The Hoodies album. Three four albums throughout all these years, because it never been my bread and butter. I didn't want to deal with all the.

[Turbulence Tony]

Everything it come with.

[Kid Capri]

It come with. Especially make my type of album clearances and all that shit to say, you know what? Let me just do it when I want to do it. And now that we in an era where you ain't got to have no handcuffs on you, you know what I'm saying? You could do things and social media

[Turbulence Tony]

just get the half up. I want to put this shit out.

[Kid Capri]

And you do what you do, you

[Turbulence Tony]

can just do it.

[Kid Capri]

Got it?

[Murder]

You know what I'm saying? You don't think there's a point in time where like. And if y' all agree with this. Cause this is how I feel that people try to, like, devalue the dj. Because like I said. Okay, let's. Let's go. No, I'm telling you, just. We go from the 80s. Terminator. Look. Terminator. Love this 80s.

[Turbulence Tony]

He. You don't.

[Murder]

Go ahead, learn to let people talk.

[Turbulence Tony]

I always let you talk.

[Murder]

Let me talk. Let me. Let me explain my Sinatra absus. Right, right.

[Turbulence Tony]

You heard that?

[Murder]

No, he's been drinking a lot today. Let me do my.

[Turbulence Tony]

Go ahead.

[Murder]

That's a good one. Enjoy your life. Right? So what I'm saying, like in the 80s, right, we knew.

[Turbulence Tony]

Who?

[Murder]

Terminator. What? Terminator X. Right? Terminator X. He had the big glasses, right? We knew Jam Master J. Right, right. Let me. Let me think. Who was Slick? We knew Eric B and Rakim, right? Who was Slick Rick? DJ again, do you know?

[Kid Capri]

Vance White was his dj, but at

[Murder]

that point you didn't know him.

[Turbulence Tony]

I like how you just stopped that question.

[Murder]

I forgot Slick Rick, because I know he always had the Kango and shit. Remember? I ain't know who he was. Now, look, that was an important time of the dj. Then you fast forward to, like, what you say. The 90s, where you had Kid Capri was still. He was in the 80s, but the 90s, you had Kid Capri. The 80s, we would say, what 80s? Red alert. We would say, what year is Red alert? Alert.

[Turbulence Tony]

I'll give him the 80s, too.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Kid Capri]

Where you going with it, though?

[Murder]

What I'm going with. I'm not trying to confuse you. Where I'm going.

[Turbulence Tony]

Confusing me, kid?

[Murder]

Y' all not let me finish my synopsis.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh, that's synopsis.

[Murder]

Look, the 80s, the DJ was relevant, like, to an extent where you was watching Eric B as much as Rakim. Let me keep going. Let me finish.

[Kid Capri]

I know what you about to say.

[Murder]

The 90s, even, like. What I'm saying is, like, Even in the 90s, you had kid Capri, you had Flex. Anything. They had albums at that point. Like, Kikapri had an album. Flex had an album. Clue had an album. Before DJ Khaled, it was more like now. Now you only see DJ Khaled with an album. No disrespect to him, but it was just more shit. Like a Flex album would come out and you'd be like, oh, shit, we got this freestyle. Kid Capri. Oh, shit, he might have this freestyle from a nigga from Harlem. He might have some big L shit. Clue.

[Kid Capri]

Oh, Clue.

[Murder]

Oh, he got a Nas freestyle. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying. It just seemed like it was just. Just more the DJs, it was just more bad. It was just more value to it. I'm not. And I love all the DJs till this point now. That's why we got them on the show. But I feel like niggas don't give just due to certain DJs that or DJs in the game, period, like how they used to in them eras. That was in my synopsis.

[Turbulence Tony]

Let my man, he can synopsis that.

[Kid Capri]

Killing me.

[Murder]

Do y' all agree? Oh, no.

[Turbulence Tony]

But I want to hear his take on this.

[Kid Capri]

I want to know what the question is.

[Murder]

No. Do you feel like. Like, niggas, like, sometimes like a nigga like you we got on the show, like, it's important to have you on the show to show how important you are to hip hop. Like, sometimes I feel like n don't

[Turbulence Tony]

get the DJ Position got paused. Like it's not like niggas try to

[Murder]

DJ like it used to be. Yeah. Like in the 80s 90s to now

[Kid Capri]

to Even when something gets all right, let me back up, let me back

[Murder]

up like they was the stars, nigga.

[Kid Capri]

In the 80 Before Rap records, right, it was Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5. It was grand Wizard Theater on the Fantastic. It was Charlie Chase and the Cold Quest Brothers. What was the DJ name first? Right, records came in and then DJs would scratch on the records a little bit, right? But then they didn't need DJ scratching on the records. They started making records. They were making records with bands, right? So when they didn't need the dj, they'd be scratching on the record no more. The name wasn't there no more. Standing in the front. Now when the 90s come, you got people like Premier that's scratching on the record. But it's a different type of hip hop now. It's more advanced now. Right now when you get to the mixtape ever with me, right now, it becomes a one man show. I don't need a rapper. I don't need none of this shit. I could do everything right. That transformed into now the tape got so popular that we started getting album deals now to make it to make, to take artists. I was the first one take artists, put them together, make an album, right? Right. Now when something gets hot and everybody does it, eventually it's going to get warm. It's going to get warm. It's not going to stay around because everybody's doing it that probably ain't supposed to be doing it. You see what I'm saying? That goes for anything. So that's. Listen, one day somebody said, I'm gonna get a tattoo and everybody got fucking tattoos. One day somebody said, I'm gonna smoke a hookah. Nobody know what hookah. Everybody starts smoking hookah sound cool. You don't even know what that shit is.

[Murder]

Have you seen that overseas?

[Kid Capri]

This is what I'm saying. When something gets hot, we overdo it until it ain't hot no more.

[Murder]

How many DJs had albums? It was only Flex.

[Kid Capri]

You, me, Tony Touch, Flex, Clue. There's a lot of them.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah, it started being a lot of Khaled.

[Kid Capri]

Like it's, it's.

[Murder]

No, there wasn't that many though. I mean.

[Kid Capri]

No, it wasn't that many. Of course not.

[Murder]

Flex, you said Tony Touch, you Flex.

[Turbulence Tony]

Rest in peace. K Slay used to be put.

[Murder]

Yeah, that's really.

[Kid Capri]

I mean that's a good handful for where we came from where DJs wasn't looked at to do that, you know what I'm saying? So keep that in mind. Like, you know, I set the. The Tremor soundtrack to the streets, and that opened the door, you know what I'm saying? But it still didn't bring us to where we on the front page of magazines. They, you know, we on a. You know, we being highlighted the way we supposed to be highlighted at award shows. And, you know, shit like that. It's still a long way. Like, I fought for the fact of I'm not gonna be treated like some nigga playing music, you know what I'm saying? Like, just playing records. You gonna put me center stage like you put the hit artist. You ain't put me on no bottom of no flyer. You ain't treat me like that. You gonna treat me like a homie artist. I'm gonna get paid the same way. Because here's the science of it. If I'm taking a room that and I'm filling this. If you get an artist and he fills this room, sells it out, and you put me in that same room and I sell it out. This man's on stage for two hours, doing two songs. His hit record, his first record, maybe another record. He's out of the door. He ain't really give you no real show. I'm there for two hours shaking this shit. Same amount of people, same amount of bread. You gonna pay me the same way you paying him. Where you gonna look at it? Because I'm playing other people's music, and I'm a D.J. is any different? It's a performance. At the end of the day, if I'm doing my job better than him, it ain't worth more than what he's supposed to get or the same. Nah. So me standing on that made me become who I became. I knew how to say no to people very early. Nah, I'm good. Give it to the next one. Give it to the next. I know the worth, you know what I'm saying? I know what I bring to the table. I know what kind of. One time a dude walked up to. To me, I did a show. I filled up four floors, sold it out. Yeah, he got so excited, he said some shit to me he wasn't supposed to say. He read up on me. Yo, kid, yo, you killed this and was crazy, yo. I made 250,000, $210,000 on you. Just on the ball alone, I was like, word, all right. And from that day on, I got what I wanted Got you.

[Murder]

I was excited he made that Brad.

[Kid Capri]

Exactly. Because look at it this way, he

[Murder]

ain't mad at me.

[Kid Capri]

Look at it this way, right? For years.

[Turbulence Tony]

So it was just your name on that flyer?

[Kid Capri]

Just my name on the flyer. This is all over the country. This is everywhere I go out of the country. This is islands everywhere. I fill that shit up by myself. I don't need no artists. I don't need none of that shit. I sell out where we go. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what we built up. But you're making money from the bar, you're making money from the food, you're making money from the parking lot. And you ain't paying this to the artist. So how do you bitch about what I want from that door? You pay me what I want. And that's why. But, but, but with that, you got to bring a certain amount of artistry to that stage to demand that.

[Turbulence Tony]

Everybody can't demand that.

[Kid Capri]

You. Everybody can't demand that. And if you're going to demand that, you have to. You have to bring what backs that up. You know what I'm saying? And that's where we get a little bit entitled. Where we think we got a little hit record out and we pop it. Cause we gotta hit record out. Okay. Record's going. What are you gonna do for me? To hear your next record or come to your show and enjoy you and buy your merch? Are you gonna. That's what I'm saying. That's a whole big picture.

[Turbulence Tony]

Gotcha.

[Kid Capri]

Before you get in this business, you gotta know that. Cause you be here today, going tomorrow. I don't watch come today be here. It be here today. They can't get a show.

[Murder]

DJing is like rappers. It's competition. And he know that. I know he ain't. He ain't gonna not, not admit to that. And I'm gonna tell you why should be different. Like when you a big dog and I know flex a kid, Capri and all these do that. Like, you know how like the first DJ be there, he open it kicker Priya be like, yo, tell that don't play certain records until I get there. No, sir, no. I'm just saying not maybe not him. Maybe my. You.

[Turbulence Tony]

You don't do that.

[Murder]

But look, not you when you a bitch.

[Kid Capri]

Big dog.

[Murder]

I thought you was allowed to do that to tell if you were open.

[Turbulence Tony]

Listen, let's break it down. Yay. Let our guests talk.

[Kid Capri]

That's not how it go. How it goes is because I want people to get their money's worth, right? I'm not the dude that's happy to do your fucking event. I'm happy to do your event. If everything is treated the way it's supposed to treat for the people that pay to get in to come see me, they're the number one thing. Not me, not the promoter. They are the number one thing. So I don't want to come in the show. And the DJ that's trying to sound like Kid Capri plays the shit that Kid Capri plays before Kid Capri get a chance to play it at the wrong time, right? So what I've done was pay for an opening DJ for years, all the way up until now, to come in. He plays a certain amount of shit that's supposed to be played for opening, and then I do whatever needs to be done.

[Turbulence Tony]

There's no random DJ never opening up for you.

[Murder]

I thought that was the goal.

[Kid Capri]

There's times. There's times we have DJs opening up. But here's the problem. I will go to them and tell them what we need to do to make this shit work in a good way, right? He would yes me to death. I walk in there, he's doing something totally different. I don't say nothing. You do what you want to do, but you won't work with me no more. You see what I'm saying? But the dude that did listen to me, which is like, my man Jesse, right? Jesse James, he been working with us. He worked. He's from Indiana. He been working with us for years. I told him to do a certain amount of things. He did it. This dude goes around the country with me for now, you know what I'm saying? Technician to DJ, you know, technician, he's been with me for 25 years, you know what I'm saying? You've been opening with me for a long time. So these are dudes that really understand and care about what's going on. And they know it's not about them, it's about what the event is. But you have dudes that don't think that way. I'm thinking about the people. I'm not thinking about me. No.

[Murder]

I thought it was like, DJ golden rule. No disrespect, but if you don't, it should be a golden rule. That's how I learned.

[Kid Capri]

It's the same thing as if you was opening for 50, right? You, Tony Yayo, you ain't gonna be doing 50 records before Ricky 50 come out there.

[Murder]

That's what I'm saying, right?

[Kid Capri]

So if you hire me to. Now, these are not my records that I'm playing, but these, but you hire me to play these records, you want the Kick Capri shit, you want that shit. So if you want that impact, how you expect me to play around somebody that's playing the shit that I need to play to make that impact go. Even though there's a million records to play, I don't know what this man's playing. So I come here playing where he playing. I'm not gonna get the impact at.

[Turbulence Tony]

Exactly.

[Kid Capri]

That's the problem that it's not about what you play, it's about what I know you're playing and when you play it. And when you play, you know that to play that shit at 10 o' clock at.

[Murder]

That's what I'm saying.

[Kid Capri]

But you want to get it in because you want to get it in to show you can get it in. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not. That's just.

[Murder]

I thought it was like. I thought it was like, like Golden Rule. I alert, like, see about Bed DJ Rough Hands, twins in them and like tape master them. Like they like, if my man, if hardcore, you know, hardcore, he was like the opening act for Rough Hands and hardcore, he would tell hardcore, nah, nigga, don't play this. It was like golden rule. Like, nah, you, you the ultimate act. My thing is, to me, I thought it was gold.

[Kid Capri]

Listen, it doesn't matter what you play. I don't care. I could play the same Shaft. I'm gonna still do what I do. It doesn't really matter. At the end of the day, there is. You should know if you call yourself a good DJ or a good performer, a good anything you should be able to do with cnd. Yep, CND joints come in there, shake that. And then when you do your own events and you have an opener or you want your event to move a certain kind of way because you have a vision of how you want it to be done. The same way a promoter has a vision of how he want his event to go. It's the same shit as a strategy, as a science. Don't be mad because somebody has a science and you don't. You just free falling. You glad to be attached to the shit. So you let them put you anywhere, talk to you any kind of way, do whatever to you. And you just there because you want to be attached to the event. Well, I'll tell you, go take your event and shove it up your ass. If you ain't going to Respect what I need to be done. You ain't going to come and tell Jay how to rhyme on mic. You ain't going to tell him to stand in no corner. You ain't going to tell Uncle Murder he can't do his wrap up at his show.

[Murder]

I told him, don't do the rap.

[Kid Capri]

You can't. Like. So you're going to tell me how to do what I do and how it should be done. You see what I'm saying? This is what I'm saying. And so. So we got to get that. And like I said, for years it been the DJ was looked at as he's the bottom. Like he's the bottom one. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, not dog. But at the end of the day, everybody relies on the DJ for your concerts, for your radio replayed, your record be played on radio, for your mixtape. You know what I'm saying? The better, the better producers, the DJs like, you rely on the DJ for every day, but you want to look at him as he's the bottom. You want to put him over here on the stage, put him on the bottom of the flat, talk to him any kind of way with your artist walking in, talking to the DJ crazy. Like, you see the thing.

[Murder]

Come on, we love this.

[Kid Capri]

This is what I'm saying.

[Murder]

So this is.

[Kid Capri]

This is why I started back. This is why I started rapping again and going back in the beats and doing my again. Because when I put Live from New York out, real rappers will look at it like, oh, this kid just putting out a party record. He. He rapping. That's cute. And then I put Talk Heavy on their ass, definitely. And when I dropped Talk Heavy on their ass, that let them know you got to push your pen. You know what I'm saying? And it's DJ Kid Capri showing you that. So don't look at us like we just one. You doing one thing. Nah, we can do it right.

[Turbulence Tony]

Definitely.

[Kid Capri]

Right. So that's what, that's why I stand tall and stand on it like that. And you know, that's how a lot of people should think of it. It doesn't have to do with the dj. If there's anything stand on your. Don't let nobody tell you how you see your vision and how your vision is supposed to go, because they don't see it that way. They don't see the worth in it or they don't see that it's supposed to be that way. Or he's a div. You calling Me a diva? Cause I don't want my situated a certain way.

[Murder]

Definitely. Definitely.

[Kid Capri]

You gonna tell your boss he's a diva? Cause he wants you to work a

[Turbulence Tony]

certain way, Motherfucker, Hell no. This is me, man. Yeah.

[Murder]

King Capri, man. I got a question for you, right? If you had an old Caucasian crowd, what's the first. What's the first place? Records you play or Caucasian crowd?

[Kid Capri]

Probably start with I love Rock and Roll.

[Murder]

I love Rock and Roll.

[Kid Capri]

Something like that.

[Murder]

You know that song Murder? I know.

[Turbulence Tony]

I didn't know that song.

[Murder]

You never heard that song? I Love Rock and Roll. That's a good one.

[Turbulence Tony]

I did. Look at that.

[Murder]

Okay, so I learned something new every day. So say we was in Washington Heights. What's the first record? Harlem. We Dyckman. We in the web. Spanish. Spanish.

[Turbulence Tony]

Harlem.

[Kid Capri]

What's the first Spanish Harlem? I'm probably gonna play something about Daddy Yankee. What's that? Gasoline or something? That's old, but.

[Murder]

Yeah, that's gonna work. It's gonna work. That one with that one.

[Kid Capri]

And now, you know, Bad Bunny out.

[Turbulence Tony]

Definitely you're gonna go Bad Bunny with that.

[Murder]

Okay, let's go. Say we got a whole African crowd. Shout out to all my Africans. Say we got an African crowd. What you going with?

[Kid Capri]

Probably gonna go with. Probably gonna go with the Soca Jump Whoopi. Yeah, she's gonna shake.

[Murder]

What about Jamaican?

[Kid Capri]

Jamaican? Just about anything Jamaican.

[Turbulence Tony]

That was a good answer.

[Murder]

Nah. Cause that's the mind. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Kid Capri]

I play anything Jamaican.

[Murder]

That shit gonna say. That's just. That's. No, I'm just saying. Just the mindset of a dj. That's why I think y' all job is kind of harder than the rapper.

[Kid Capri]

Of course it is.

[Murder]

That's how I.

[Kid Capri]

You get up there. Well, I'm not gonna say you. Let's break it down. Your job is very hard. Your job is very hard, brother. It's harder than the singers, too.

[Murder]

No, no, no. I'm gonna give another example. If murder. If, like, if you was to say, yo, yo, we got a DJ in Boston, right? Let me talk now. Don't cut me off.

[Turbulence Tony]

Nobody cut you off, bro.

[Murder]

Let me talk.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yo, he love your. For the record, he loves Sam.

[Murder]

Let me talk.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's like his slogan.

[Murder]

I'm a rapper and look, I used to dj. I'm a rapper and I used to dj. So if you tell me if they say, yo, it's an all white crowd, Caucasian, and we go to Boston, don't say nothing to Murder Kid Capri. What record would you play in Boston?

[Turbulence Tony]

The all white record. Yeah, I might throw some Post Malone on or something like that.

[Murder]

Wrong. And I'll shout to Post Malone. You know what I would play? You know what? Killer crowd.

[Kid Capri]

What?

[Murder]

Sweet Caroline. I'm starting. I'm starting with that because that's because you're not so good.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's why your name is not deep.

[Murder]

I'm not you. I'm not you, but that's what I'm starting.

[Turbulence Tony]

Thank you, kid.

[Kid Capri]

I wouldn't start with that.

[Murder]

You never heard that. You never heard Sweet Caroline.

[Kid Capri]

But again, there's a science. A. Of course I heard Sweet. There's a science to everything.

[Murder]

You don't know. I'm starting with that. I bet you I move the crowd. I bet you money I move the crowd. I'm talking about all Caucasian crowd.

[Turbulence Tony]

Now when you walk in, man, that's my first record. Play some EDM.

[Murder]

I'mma start DJing.

[Kid Capri]

That might not work either.

[Turbulence Tony]

It might.

[Murder]

So what was the.

[Kid Capri]

It depend on the crowd.

[Turbulence Tony]

Got you.

[Kid Capri]

Because there different white crowds.

[Turbulence Tony]

Exactly. There you go.

[Murder]

You know what I'm saying?

[Kid Capri]

You got a different.

[Murder]

So same with us.

[Kid Capri]

Like, you got the.

[Murder]

What would you play? What would you play?

[Kid Capri]

What would I play in the white crowd? It depends. It depends on, you know, who's in front of me. That's the thing.

[Murder]

I look at the crowd you gotta look at.

[Kid Capri]

I walk in, I look and see what's going on right there. I knew what to do. Boom. Jim Watson would do it all the time. I just look, see? Done. Doesn't matter if it's an arena.

[Murder]

Doesn't matter what it is. He just got the eye. I know what he mean, he just got the eye.

[Kid Capri]

I've been so used to doing it all my life. That shit is a second nature.

[Murder]

Like when he go to dc, he know he gonna play some Go Go.

[Kid Capri]

It's the way you play it, though. I know it's the way you play it.

[Turbulence Tony]

Not Sweet Carolina you don't even know about.

[Murder]

Go. Go in D.C. sweet Caroline in Boston. Shout out to Boston Sweet Cat. I'm not listening to the kid competing.

[Turbulence Tony]

I want to know this. How's you and funk flex relationship these days? Are y' all in the good space? Because I remember a couple years ago with some back and forth online. So don't sit up here and say it was never nothing because there was some drama. It was drama.

[Kid Capri]

Personally?

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah.

[Kid Capri]

I didn't never know.

[Turbulence Tony]

Okay. All right. It was more Internet radio type shit like that. Competition.

[Kid Capri]

Competition.

[Turbulence Tony]

Okay. There you go.

[Kid Capri]

Okay.

[Turbulence Tony]

I just wanted to know because I never spoke to you about it.

[Kid Capri]

Flex, cool today. It's all good.

[Turbulence Tony]

Okay. Gotcha.

[Kid Capri]

But after Tom Flex, was he. He needed a little tap on his hand for a minute because he was. He was. He's Flex like, you know, he's. He says what he says, he does what he does, you know, but, you know, you step in my arena, it. You know, it goes the way it goes. And it was all dope, though. But that's my dog.

[Turbulence Tony]

Did you hear that?

[Murder]

Did you hear what he said? Man, you step in my arena, that's

[Turbulence Tony]

how anybody supposed to feel like. You know what I mean?

[Murder]

I'm just saying, the way he said it, that's that cocky shit. I like that. I would love to see DJ battles. The game got soft now.

[Turbulence Tony]

Keep it real. How would a DJ battle. That's interesting.

[Murder]

I'd love to see DJ battle.

[Turbulence Tony]

How would a DJ battle?

[Murder]

Y' all always.

[Turbulence Tony]

Y' all like, you and the Flex having y' all little. Y' all going back and forth for a minute right now.

[Kid Capri]

How would.

[Turbulence Tony]

How would y' all settle something like that? Like, motherfucker, I'm not. How would a DJ battle? And how would you come up with a winner?

[Kid Capri]

It's all about whoever shook the crowd the best.

[Murder]

There you go. What do you mean?

[Turbulence Tony]

Has that been done before with the. With the DJs like that a DJ battle?

[Murder]

Yeah. Cause the game. Yo, Murder, man. Let me. Murder, let me. This is the real problem.

[Turbulence Tony]

I'm talking about it being done recently. Like, you know.

[Murder]

Nah, DJ Battle.

[Turbulence Tony]

It ain't been done in a long time.

[Murder]

Recently.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, you got DMCs. Every year, you got just DJ battles.

[Murder]

All I'm saying, you're talking about knowing

[Turbulence Tony]

he's telling you what happened.

[Kid Capri]

But you talking about party. You talking about a battle that me and Flex would have did. Me and Flex. If it's me. Yeah, Flex, or anybody that do what I do, how would that.

[Turbulence Tony]

How'd that. He probably got set up.

[Kid Capri]

I would have did it an hour.

[Turbulence Tony]

Okay.

[Kid Capri]

And that would have been the battle. All right.

[Turbulence Tony]

Gotcha.

[Kid Capri]

You know what I'm saying? Whatever time. What you did in that hour.

[Murder]

No, what I'm saying is this, right? That's like how niggas don't got to slam dunk no stars do it. If you had DJ battles, like a Flex versus Kid Capri nigga. Not on.

[Turbulence Tony]

That would be crazy.

[Murder]

Look, not on the verses, though. But like, back in the days, like in the club, like the tunnels like in the tunnel, if you caught Kid Capri had a set and Flex had a set. That's classic shit.

[Kid Capri]

But see, that's what I'm saying.

[Murder]

You know what I'm saying?

[Kid Capri]

I'd rather that. I don't.

[Murder]

That's what it was about.

[Kid Capri]

I didn't.

[Murder]

That's what. Listen.

[Kid Capri]

That's what I'm saying. I didn't want that. I didn't want that with me in Flex. Okay, let's get that straight. You know what I'm saying? I don't get. I don't look for the wow fact about knocking another man down, you know what I'm saying? So I don't pause.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah.

[Kid Capri]

Like. Yeah, pause.

[Turbulence Tony]

Got knocking. Yeah, that was a little crazy, right?

[Kid Capri]

That was a little crazy.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Kid Capri]

But. But what I'm saying is, you know, I don't. I don't get nothing from that. So I. I, you know. You know, but it was necessary because of what was going on. And the shit was funny, too. Cause I was putting up a lot of funny shit, you know, and, you know, it became what it became. But he have said things to a lot of people that never say anything back, you know what I'm saying? And this time, something was said back in a way that it was a little stronger than he probably thought it was going to be. But it didn't need to go no further than that. Like I said, it wasn't personal. You know what I'm saying?

[Turbulence Tony]

Got you now. Definitely, definitely.

[Kid Capri]

If he would have called me right in the middle of all that shit going on and said, kid, I need you for something, I would have been right there.

[Turbulence Tony]

Gotcha. And it's probably vice versa with him. Yeah.

[Murder]

You feel me, guys? This is how I look at it. It's all about like. Like I said, you would love to see Kid Capri and not. Not be for nothing but Flex in a club together and whoever had the best set. To me, it's always been about the best set. Like you being a party and.

[Kid Capri]

See, I don't like that, though.

[Murder]

Hold on, let me. All right, let me finish.

[Turbulence Tony]

But why you don't. Go ahead. Why you don't like that?

[Kid Capri]

Because that's the same shit as the Kendrick and the Drake beef. It doesn't become about skill. It become about knocking the one that lost down. It becomes about shooting at the one that lost down. Like, it becomes that. It don't become about, he was dope, he won, done. It becomes some other shit. And then with this Internet shit, it magnifies it to a Whole nother level. So that's why when you heard Jay the other day say that he didn't think battling should be involved with anything. And nowadays that's what he meant. Not that this is based off bad. We. We battle.

[Murder]

Of course.

[Kid Capri]

This is what it is. But when it comes to knocking down careers and knocking down and making another narrative, getting shot at and all that, now it becomes something different.

[Turbulence Tony]

I mean, people been getting shot at.

[Murder]

That been a part of it.

[Turbulence Tony]

That been a part of it. You gotta have tough skin with it.

[Murder]

Rap. Listen. Cases one. Yeah, listen, kid.

[Turbulence Tony]

Everybody got a comment with the Internet.

[Murder]

That's what KRS1.

[Turbulence Tony]

Everybody got a comment.

[Murder]

We know hip hop was always about competition, bro. Like, it ain't nothing negative. I know sometimes it might go to some. Let me talk, daddy. Look, but like, like, like, even 50 said, we from Queensland. Come on, y'. All Motherfuckers got shout outs on. On all that shit that nigga KRS said. And Queens keep on faking it. We was still listening to that. Like, but you know what? Yeah, Bronze keep creating it. We could keep on taking it. And Queen keep on faking it.

[Kid Capri]

Like what it stayed.

[Murder]

Listen. But look, the beat was so hard and what he was saying was so crazy, niggas had to respect it. MC Shan beat, we liked it. Nas and Jay don't act like you didn't like. That was incredible.

[Kid Capri]

That's what I'm talking about. What I said was. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about when it turns from

[Turbulence Tony]

okay, y' all for battle is being

[Kid Capri]

from a battle being two dope to people getting shot at because one don't like the other one because the crowd the same thing. They shooting at Drake at his crib because. And they're Kendrick fans. Because they're Kendrick fans. When it becomes that, that's something different.

[Murder]

We don't know that.

[Turbulence Tony]

Like, that.

[Kid Capri]

That's what I'm talking about. So, yeah, of course you want battle. It keeps your shot. It keeps your edge sharp. Like, yeah,

[Turbulence Tony]

it's exciting for him. Hip hop.

[Kid Capri]

It's exciting. It's beautiful if it stays where it's supposed to stay. Like Jay and Nas did. They did a battle next to you doing business with. How's that?

[Murder]

That's not talked about. The baby seat. Not the. The baby seat with Nas daughter. What are you talking about? Talk about Jay said in the battle, nothing should ever go too far. Right? Yeah, that's what he said in his. Right. When we look at the well in his song. What did he Say it's not about what he said. I got it on the baby seat.

[Kid Capri]

It's not about J. O. You're not paying attention.

[Murder]

You can't say.

[Kid Capri]

Yo, it's not about what he say. It's about the end result. It was a battle regardless what he said. They end up doing business afterwards. Not nobody shooting at each other.

[Murder]

Okay, hold on, let me, Let me revisit. No, no, no, no, you.

[Turbulence Tony]

No, no, no, you no, you, you,

[Murder]

no, you, no, you. Listen, Hold up. Pause, pause.

[Turbulence Tony]

Super pauses. Another pause again.

[Kid Capri]

But get your point across.

[Murder]

Pause. It was too many right there. Pause. What I'm saying to you, you is listen. Jay said. Listen. Jay said, no. Cause I hate. One more. I'm. Keep it real. Jay said in the interview, right?

[Turbulence Tony]

Get your point across.

[Murder]

Jay said in the interview that battle rap goes too far, right?

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah.

[Murder]

In the him and Nas battle, did he refer to being in his baby mom's car and coming on the. Excuse me, YouTube. Mute that. Something on the car seat. Didn't he say that in that battle?

[Turbulence Tony]

Okay, now listen, now let me say something. I gotta say is, yo, you better.

[Kid Capri]

He's drunk.

[Turbulence Tony]

No, he. Hello. But I gotta get my brother. I gotta give my brother. I gotta. I got. I gotta give him his props on that. You know what, though? I gotta give him his props in that. Because. Because when you do say. When you do say battle line, some things go too far, right? Between him and Nas. That was a little too far. That was too far for Jay. I'm not gonna front. When you think about could have. It could have went to the next level. It didn't, right? It didn't. But behind saying something like that, it could have went to the next level.

[Kid Capri]

Do you know how much personal shit real battle rappers say to each other?

[Turbulence Tony]

We're not talking about them battle rappers though, right?

[Murder]

Now, what do you got? Now you go,

[Turbulence Tony]

because battle rappers is there. They in front of each other. They saying certain things. They prepare for that, right? They, they. They talking about that. We talking about battle. We talking about, like, what are you talking about?

[Murder]

See, certain.

[Turbulence Tony]

Like, you want to see.

[Murder]

You supplied the weapons.

[Turbulence Tony]

Drake, you want to see Drake vs. Kendrick, right? But people did feel like when the, like the little pedophile things, like, all right, that was going too far. When. When Drake started talking about the BM and his girl and the kids and shit like that. And baby might not be in his. People feel like, all right, now the battle is getting a little, like, they going a little left with it, right? But to criticize that to say that all I'm saying from what he was saying, right? For Jay to say when certain things going too far. And then you mentioned something like kids and coming on baby seat. That was far. And things could have went left. And we had social media back then, right back then. When Jay said that if social media was alive back then, that could have went crazy.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, no doubt it could have went crazy.

[Turbulence Tony]

But of course, Jay matured now when he get it, he realized now damn certain things you say I it could up. You know what I'm saying? Because a mature now he get it. Damn certain things shouldn't have been said back then. You know what I'm saying? But when you young want to come up, you don't understand that. Or when you're in the heat of the battle, you don't really give a what you're about to say. All you know is I'm about to destroy this. I don't give a how I destroy him. I' ma destroy him. His battle is beef. Imma destroy this. But social media make it feel like nowadays because everybody gonna have an opinion. Everybody gonna comment on something. Now people feel like they gotta hold their tongue or bite their tongue or you can't say something now. Well, now that's. This was built off that. Like really?

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Turbulence Tony]

Hip hop. Hip hop was built off.

[Murder]

You gonna disrespect the DJs are the arms dealers in the war. Cause once that Machiavelli come up home with all that Machiavelli, y' all gonna play that. Who shot you?

[Kid Capri]

You.

[Murder]

You gonna play. You're gonna play that Drake come out. Y' all gonna play that Kendrick, y'

[Kid Capri]

all the don't give a about that. I'm talking about nobody getting.

[Murder]

You keep talking about battle rap. That's why I get confused. Shout to battle rap.

[Turbulence Tony]

I know what kid was trying to say.

[Kid Capri]

Thank you.

[Turbulence Tony]

I know what Kim was trying to say. He was trying to say battle rappers say the most disrespectful to each other. But I don't know, it's different with the battle rappers and the rappers is a difference in a way. It's a difference because it's a whole. I don't know, I feel like it's just two different worlds.

[Kid Capri]

Talk about my mom's imma punch you in your. You talk about my mom's in the battle. I'm punching your. You talking about my mom's on the record. I'm a punching. Yes. But the battle rap no different.

[Turbulence Tony]

But the battle rappers is built different for that because they. I guess they used to. That they used to standing up in front of each other and disrespecting each other, saying the most date.

[Kid Capri]

They used to go watch official Battle.

[Murder]

But let's keep it real. Let me ask both of y' all a question. And I'm gonna ask y' all a question too, right? We'll say, right? Like we'll watch the Biggie and Tupac Beef, right? They was on Vibe magazine, Billboard magazine. Some of the biggest publications you've seen in your life was East Coast, West Coast. And you probably met Biggie and Pac. Am I correct? Of course. There you go, right? That was the biggest shit you seen East Coast, West Coast. You know, Suge Knight at Death Row. We don't do the dancing, we don't do the singing. None of that niggas fed into now. Let me talk to you about it. Every. The industry feeds into all of that. Since way back then. East Coast, west coast, it just wasn't on Internet. It was more the magazines and all that shit. Word of mouth, East Coast, West Coast. We knew it was a beef, right When Biggie came with. With who shotcha. And 50 came. I mean, and Tupac came with Machiavelli. We love that shit. The industry feed into it. The DJs play it. Y' all scratching the shit out of a diss record. Come with Wankster wank stuff. Y' all was just playing Ja Rule, but now you're playing 50 Wangster. You just was playing Tupac. Now you're playing Biggie. Like y' all niggas are the arms dealers. And then when somebody gets shot, niggas is like, yo, peace, man. Yo, y' all niggas are the niggas that was spinning the shit. Billboard look

[Turbulence Tony]

say about that. Y. D.J. be playing this.

[Murder]

That's what make the industry. I love all of y', all, but come on. Y' all amped all the beef. Y' all love the East Coast, west coast beef. Everybody made money. DJ radio stations, magazines. Everybody made money. Coogees, Versace made money. Everybody made money off the Biggie. Tupac Beef. And y' all love that. Bro, get out of here, bro. Unless you come build that up to destroy and just be like, oh, my God, somebody got shot. Y' all amped it up. Y' all played the out of Kendrick record. No disrespect to him. Once start shooting, we gotta keep it peaceful. That's why I don't with the industry. Listen, I'm the that big. You can't cancel somebody that I could walk on here, though, as 50. They banned me from Red Coffee, so I've been cancelled. I don't care. You can't cancel me. But the industry's full of y' all amp up. DJs scratching the. Flex, all y'. All. Once bullets start flying. Yo, we gotta keep the peace, man. Words the industry out of here.

[Kid Capri]

Hey, man, out of here. Kill yourselves.

[Turbulence Tony]

I don't give a.

[Kid Capri]

Do it.

[Murder]

Kid was trying out there. Kid was trying.

[Turbulence Tony]

He was trying, but he.

[Murder]

Battle rappers are the only ones that could disrespect. Get out of here, man.

[Turbulence Tony]

You crazy, crazy Kid. I didn't say that.

[Murder]

You said they the most disrespectful.

[Kid Capri]

They the most disrespectful to each other,

[Murder]

but they know how to. They the best. Best at that.

[Kid Capri]

And nobody gets killed. Nobody gets shot.

[Murder]

What? We get beat up. Shot. Oh, Pistol Whip. Oh, you bugging.

[Kid Capri]

Get beat up that don't know what they doing. About the real battle rappers.

[Murder]

The real ones. The real.

[Kid Capri]

They say some of the most craziest. And after the battle is over, they go on the drink.

[Murder]

Nah, got shot. You bugging.

[Kid Capri]

You can look who got shot.

[Murder]

Mad got shot. We can look it up. We'll find it. Remember Math for Punching back in the days. What are you talking about? It was Mad magazine slapped with guns. All kind of. They be saying it in the raps later on. You gotta check it out. Kicker Pre. You gotta do your homework.

[Turbulence Tony]

They'll be saying it in the raps later on.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, yeah.

[Murder]

Yo, yo, Got Pistol Whip and Rob be saying that really happened. What is you think? Gangsters? The don't happen to battle raps shout to the battle rappers. It's even more gangster over there. Who. What's my man that just got him from Jersey, you know.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh, T Surf. T Surf.

[Murder]

That just get out the feds. Facts that was in the Feds walking the yard. You know his paperwork was correct. He was a battle rapper. Yeah, he got shot and all that. Like 50 and walking the yard. Up top, Polok.

[Kid Capri]

I mean, there's exceptions.

[Murder]

You talking about like it's Kumbaya over there.

[Turbulence Tony]

I'm just saying.

[Murder]

Battle rappers Kumbaya.

[Kid Capri]

Like I said. I didn't say that.

[Murder]

Nobody getting killed. Yes, they are.

[Turbulence Tony]

All right.

[Kid Capri]

Y' all kill yourself then. Y' all can't fuck and smoking.

[Murder]

Y' all the. You flex. Everybody. When we was dissing J R, Flex was dropping bombs.

[Kid Capri]

Boom, boom.

[Murder]

Yeah, Flex. Yeah. Y' all love that. Shut up with that. Know you love that. You moved the crowd. You Came up off all that. You was in the. You was in the. In the 80s. Where was getting shot and taking the bullets out they self back then in the club in the Bronx. He know what I'm talking about.

[Turbulence Tony]

Kid take 80s. Kid was not around nobody getting shot, taking the bullet out.

[Murder]

He was in the Castle. In the fever. Real was in that. Oh, it wasn't the fever Castle. My f. But the Castle. I thought the fever too. Somebody gave me the wrong information. He said you never did the tunnel.

[Turbulence Tony]

He said kid was in there when getting shot and they took the bullet out they self.

[Murder]

He was in the Bronx in the Castle. Was kidnapping back then. How ill you had to be a DJ back then?

[Kid Capri]

A whole lot.

[Turbulence Tony]

A whole lot, man.

[Kid Capri]

A whole lot.

[Turbulence Tony]

Kid been doing the whole life. Started a record label. All type of, man.

[Kid Capri]

All kind of.

[Turbulence Tony]

How did that record label come about, kid? How did your new record label come about, man?

[Kid Capri]

Making records, man. I want my own. Do my own. Ain't got to answer nobody. That's right.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's right. That's right.

[Kid Capri]

In 2023, I had caught cancer.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah, I knew about that, man. How did that. How was that whole experience, man? God is definitely good, man. You here with us today, trust me.

[Murder]

Jesus. Thyroid.

[Kid Capri]

Thyroid cancer. They take thyroid out. And so in 2023, nobody knew how to do all this stuff. I bought Debbie G out Yankee Stadium. I hosted the BET Awards. I did. Did a lot of shit. And then when I got rid of it, that's when I told everybody about it. Since then, I started a business, Herbal Reset plus, where I sell natural herbs from soursop to south spirella. Me and my man Robin got together and started a business. And we sell everything from Chaney root to macaroot.

[Murder]

Well, we could find it somewhere online.

[Kid Capri]

Herbalresetplus.com got it all there.

[Murder]

Make sure y' all love it.

[Kid Capri]

Taking care of y' all bodies, man, because they're not gonna tell you what's right for you. They gonna make. Make you keep paying that money as long as they keep making you pay that money. But if you go and you take initiative and go see what's going on, start using the doing the right thing. Keep in mind, a few months ago, maybe seven months ago, I was 267 pounds. I lost 67 pounds. 63 pounds.

[Turbulence Tony]

Congratulations on my brother. Congratulations. Congratulations.

[Kid Capri]

So I've been on my health since that incident, you know what I'm saying?

[Turbulence Tony]

How did you deal with that? Like, mentally and spiritually.

[Kid Capri]

That's what I'm saying.

[Murder]

Like, you gotta Be careful, kid.

[Kid Capri]

You gotta put that shit in the back of your head. Murder. Because doing all the work I was doing, if you worryin about that, you won't be able to work. You know what I'm saying? And then the worrying part is what makes you sicker, right? So I put it in the back of my head. The main thing was go to all the appointments, do everything I was supposed to do on time. And when I got rid of it, the doctor had said to me, you know, kid, like, I'm glad that you. He was like, I wanna congratulate you. He was like, you'd be surprised how many people were canceled Hustle and come back three months later, four months later, they got much further. Now we got to work that much harder to get them. Get them right. Some people we can't even get right because they stayed too long. So you did all your appointments, you made everything. So me doing that and getting right, and when God blessed me to be good.

[Turbulence Tony]

God is good, man.

[Kid Capri]

That's what I said. You know, I'm gonna just do different. So I eat different. I got a whole different lifestyle of how I do, right? So that's what kind of inspired the herb business. And Montel Jordan, as a matter of fact, you know he had cancer.

[Turbulence Tony]

Yeah, he had cancer.

[Kid Capri]

He just got rid of his cancer. He was buying my herbs from us.

[Turbulence Tony]

Oh, look at that, right?

[Kid Capri]

So it's kind of helped him along the way.

[Murder]

Be careful with that though, kid. You know, doctors, once you start doing that, come hit, hey, man, come see corporations come hit you with the. Come and see me, Dr. Sebi, all that. What you think is be like, yo, I'm doing something with Dr. Sebi. Don't do anything. Hey, man, shout out to that. And they in Houston. I with they. You just gotta be careful with that on the net.

[Kid Capri]

I don't think so.

[Murder]

You don't see what. Yo, bro, you don't see what's going on. You ain't see all of them. Like, you ain't see everything that's going on. So look, y' all ain't see how like, all these, like, nuclear scientists got smoke? Like all these niggas that astronaut.

[Kid Capri]

Why you putting this shit out there like that?

[Murder]

I don't give a fuck. Niggas can smoke me, nigga. Damn.

[Kid Capri]

God damn.

[Murder]

But like, all these, like, nuclear scientists. Oh, you don't want to talk. You was talking about healing niggas.

[Kid Capri]

Yeah, you talking about I'm trying to heal you trying to kill him.

[Murder]

Look, there was a whole bunch of Scientists that got hit, like, mysteriously. Like dying and missing, like, so once start talking about healing. I got the herbs. Don't go to these companies, man.

[Kid Capri]

That herbal reset plus dot com, man.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's right.

[Kid Capri]

You know, Sarsaparello, Crazy sour SAP.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's right.

[Murder]

Good stuff, man.

[Turbulence Tony]

All that good stuff, man.

[Murder]

Yo, we got the world's greatest DJ here. Make sure y', all, like, share, subscribe. I know this is one of the crazy episodes we talked about. The most legendary in hip hop. It's the real report. Signing out with my turbulence. No, I'm turbulent.

[Turbulence Tony]

You turbulence. Tony, man, you've been drinking so much of that brass.

[Murder]

You've been drinking too much of that the Branson boys.

[Turbulence Tony]

That's what it is.

[Murder]

Go ahead.

[Turbulence Tony]

This is your boy L, J, L. We got Kid Capri in the building. Legendary KRI.

[Kid Capri]

Yo, take your ass to that YouTube and watch those videos I got up there. Don't play yourself. Kick a pre101. The Instagram, Twitter.

[Murder]

Oh, yo, that's right. Hold on. We forgot about his daughter. Music, too.

[Kid Capri]

Talk about love shaking. Vena. Love is doing her thing. Make sure you go to her page and look at all she is rocking. Crazy.

[Murder]

So that's how artists of the week we sounding out.

[Turbulence Tony]

Hold up. And my boy also got inducted to the Bronx Walk of Fame.

[Murder]

Oh. Shout out to the B.S.

[Turbulence Tony]

the Bronx walk of Fame.

[Murder]

My Bronx created the Bronx Walk of Fame. Bronx created the game. Walk of Fame.

[Kid Capri]

Good luck surviving the off season, football fans.

[Murder]

At first I was afraid. I was petrified. Football's over. It's like a part of me just died inside. 200 days till football's back. But tonight I won't just cry.

[Kid Capri]

Cause I've got a ways to play.

[Murder]

And that's the place with hard rock. Bet I will survive.

[Kid Capri]

Offered by a Seminole tribe of Florida.

[Turbulence Tony]

Must be 21 and physically present in

[Kid Capri]

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[Murder]

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[Murder]

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[Murder]

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