The Real Report - Loaded Lux talks Fabulous vs Banks, battle rap's fall off , Strivers Row, and legendary battle vs Calicoe

Summary

Podcast Summary: Joe and Jada – The Real Report

Episode: Loaded Lux talks Fabolous vs. Banks, battle rap’s fall-off, Strivers Row, and legendary battle vs. Calicoe
Date: June 10, 2026
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jadakiss (with intermittent contributions from Uncle Murda and guests)
Guest: Loaded Lux

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Overview

This episode features iconic battle rapper Loaded Lux, who sits down with Fat Joe and Jadakiss for a charged and nostalgia-driven conversation about the evolution and current state of battle rap. Key themes include the transition of battle rap from YouTube to streaming platforms, the financial elevation (and its consequences), legendary battles and moments (notably Lux vs. Calicoe), the divide between battle rappers and recording artists, Harlem’s legacy, and Lux’s creative projects, including his "Strivers Row" album. The episode is rich in inside stories, hip-hop history, and unfiltered perspectives—particularly around the culture and commercialization of battle rap.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Transition & Commercialization of Battle Rap

Visibility Shift: Youtube to Streaming

• [04:04] Host: "We miss battle rap on YouTube... Do you feel like you miss it on YouTube, too?"
• [04:23] Loaded Lux: "A lot of things, the world today... is subscription-based. Smack built up the platform enough to where exclusivity made sense. But it’s not as visible as you would like it for the masses."

Monetization and Rising Payouts

• [05:19] Host: “It came to a point where you hear guys say, ‘I need $20,000 to battle, $50,000 to battle.’”
• [05:38] Loaded Lux: “Everything ain’t for everybody. You gotta know who you are, what you generating to ask for them type of numbers... This is an industry, you know what I mean? I was there at the commencement. Niggas was on a block.”

The Impact on Battle Rap’s Reach

• Conversation about how moving to subscription platforms limits organic exposure and discovery, making battles “less of a phenomenon” compared to the YouTube era.
• [12:18] Host: “If you can’t see the content, how is it going to be relevant?”
• [12:22] Loaded Lux: "There’s a healthy balance—You gotta release something, even a clip. Tease the people, let them know where to go.”

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Legendary Moments: Lux vs. Calicoe

The Showmanship & Theatrics

• [13:32] Host: “It’s him with Calico. You pulled out the hearse, palm bearers, the suit… That battle changed the fucking game.”
• [14:45] Loaded Lux: “Just showmanship... I’m a real craftsman when it comes to this shit. When you get those pivotal moves... for real.”

Lux's Approach & Preparation

• [16:41] Host: “What made you think to come with the casket and everything?”
• [16:47] Loaded Lux: “I gotta give all the glory to up top... Creatively, I’m gonna go with it. I caught them ideas two weeks before the joint... You gotta take the moment serious.”
  • Recalls there was “some back and forth” on the money before the battle was set.
  • Calico was on a run at the time, “crushing,” which made the stakes higher.

Cultural Resonance

• [21:02] Host: “I never forgot that battle, man. Fourteen years later, I had to ask you that question.”
• [21:52] Loaded Lux: "The world was watching. Battle rap ain't never had a look like that until then... Puff was in the audience, Busta, Q-Tip..."

Writing and Memory

• [47:04] Host: “It’s hard to remember all that shit... y’all remembering 10, 20 minutes of bars...”
• [47:22] Loaded Lux: "And room to improv too... That's an art in itself, you gotta be sharp."

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Battle Rap vs. Making Records

Industry Stigma

• [08:35] Host: “Why do you feel like they keep battle rappers in a box?”
• [08:46] Loaded Lux: “It’s conditioning... People know you for one thing. Like Kevin Hart for comedy.”
• [10:16] Interviewer: “Surf made that transition... On the streets people fucking with Surf's music.”

Transition Realities

• [23:16] Loaded Lux: "I started making music at the same time we was battling... Battling was just fun in my neighborhood."
• [25:01] Loaded Lux: “Every branch on a tree got a rhythm... If it’s making music, you gotta learn the formats... When you get to battling, that’s a rhythm in itself.”

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The Business: Financial Growth and Consequences

Ballooning Asking Prices

• Battles became more lucrative, but that also led to fewer battles and less accessibility.
• [44:16, 44:28] Host & Co-host: “K. Sean and DNA, they up the game… Smack prices went up. Smack wasn’t paying that 1500,000.”

The Cost of Exclusivity

• Debate on whether Smack’s deals with companies like Caffeine and URL shifted the culture in a negative way due to reduced public access.

Market Saturation and Marketing

• [41:03] Loaded Lux: “Y’all gonna have to... We wanna see you on Flex, we wanna see you on Sway... it’s less traffic on YouTube with battle rap.”

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Dream Battles and Speculations

Fabolous vs. Lloyd Banks

• Discussion around a potential battle, with Loaded Lux leaning towards Banks due to his grittier style and comfort in the raw battle environment.
• [28:22] Loaded Lux: "I'm already, I'm with Banks. I'm with PLK... I feel it wouldn’t be such a transition for Banks to get in that space."
• Ongoing jokes about the “neutral Harlem angle” and industry friendships.

Drake or Mainstream Celebrities Entering Battle Rap

• [26:43] Host: "Drake wanted to battle Mook. That shit was changing the game."
• [45:02] Loaded Lux: "Yes, he was gonna do it... When me and Mook come back, I’ll let Mook tell that story."

Other Matchups & Rematches

• Calls for Sue Surf vs. Lux rematch, Mook vs. DNA, etc.
• [43:21] Host: "Let me go to my battle list... I would like to see Sue Surf vs. Lux."
• [44:16] Host: "Back then y’all became so Hollywood, 100,000 a battle..."

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Harlem's Legacy & Strivers Row

Harlem’s Influence on Battle Rap and Culture

• Extended discussion on the history and energy of Harlem, naming legends from Dougie Fresh and Big L to current artists like Fergie Baby and Neith Bucks.
• [36:46] Host: “You got a crowd... You and Mook battling in Harlem – the pressure’s on.”
• [37:25] Loaded Lux: “That’s when Smack was pulling up... I always say Harlem is the Mecca.”

Strivers Row Project

• [34:48] Loaded Lux: “This Strivers Row shit... it was one of those blocks... allowed for minds and vibes to come through."
• [75:15] Loaded Lux: “It’s a vault project... jazz infused... A soundtrack to the times. Every record was built from real energy.”
  • Dropping June 9th, built with Rain.
  • Emphasizes creativity and substance rather than mainstream appeal.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Battle Rap Theatrics:
  "We put out obituaries, did the whole thing... Wasn't no AI... Everything you see in that obituary, word for word, I put all that. I wrote all of that.” – Loaded Lux [18:18]
• On Legacy:
  “You can't even put a price tag on what God gonna give you, right? We talking about something that happened in 2012 that's still trickling... It’s gonna follow you, it’s gonna proceed you.” – Loaded Lux [54:56]
• On Showmanship:
  “I’m a real craftsman when it comes to this shit. I'm a Virgo, so I get extra, extra, like, anal about this... Pause.” – Loaded Lux [15:06]
• On the Division Between Battle and Regular Rappers:
  “Battle rap to me is harder than being an artist because the artist knows their song; battle rappers gotta have all the bars in your head, the timing, the crowd, crowd screaming in your face without fighting... You can't choke.” – Host [19:30]
• On Performance Pressure:
  "People paying their hard-earned money... Michael Jordan said that, some person, that might be the first time seeing me. They paid for that experience." – Loaded Lux [50:18]
• On Harlem's Creativity:
  “That’s how I got nice, though. You gotta be inspired. You gotta hear niggas. Your mixtape run was crazy.” – Loaded Lux [66:24]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:04] – Missing battle rap on YouTube & impact on visibility
• [13:31] – Deep dive into Lux vs. Calicoe, game-changing theatrics
• [16:47] – Creative process behind the Lux vs. Calicoe battle
• [25:01] – Difference between battle rap and making hit records
• [28:22] – Lux weighs in: Banks vs. Fab for a hypothetical battle
• [41:03] – On the need for battle rappers to market beyond platform silos
• [54:56] – The ongoing legacy of battle rap and meaning of creative moments
• [75:15] – Backstory on the Strivers Row project, importance of substance
• [77:51] – The value of having a cult following vs. mainstream numbers

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Memorable Moments

• The detailed storytelling about how the infamous hearse, funeral programs, and obituaries were orchestrated for the Calicoe battle—highlighting how much effort went into elevating battle rap into pure theater.
• Lux and the hosts sharing mutual respect for both the business and artistry of the culture, including shout-outs to new and old Harlem artists.
• Reflections on how easy content discovery and organic fan engagement were during the “YouTube era”—and why fans crave easier access again.
• Candid admissions about money changing the culture’s frequency: “The money.” – Loaded Lux [39:39].
• Loaded Lux discussing his upcoming book, You Gon’ Get This Work, inspired by his most famous battle catchphrase [48:57].

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Concluding Thoughts

The episode is a passionate, unguarded time capsule and critique of hip-hop’s battle culture—from its DIY, block-driven roots to its mainstream, often opaque present. Loaded Lux remains a proud ambassador for the artform, balancing reverence for the craft with a practical understanding of the business’s evolution.
Final vibe: Let’s make battle rap great again—by returning to accessibility, showmanship, and the authentic energy that made the culture legendary.

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Artist Picks of the Week

• Host: Fergie Baby (Harlem)
• Interviewer: Chase Belly
• Loaded Lux: Strivers Row project with Rain (dropping June 9)

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Calls to Action:

• Stay tapped in to upcoming battle events and try to support the scene via their official platforms.
• Check for Loaded Lux’s upcoming project and book.
• The hosts encourage everyone to “like, share, subscribe” and shout out Harlem’s continuing influence on hip-hop and battle rap culture.

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[Host]

To me, there was a time where you and Lux stop. Like, yo, you and Mook stop. Y' all like, man, Hollywood 100,000. The battle. Oh, man. Up the game. K

[Interviewer/Co-host]

up the game. I heard price up, too.

[Host]

Smack prices went up. Smack wasn't paying that 1500,000.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Smack said these.

[Host]

Said they was going to the disco,

[Interviewer/Co-host]

try to flip on you. Smack. Y got it out the mud together. Talk about D. He didn't get stabbed.

[Host]

Shut the up.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Okay, Provence.

[Loaded Lux]

Oh,

[Host]

Yeah. It's the talk of New York.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

It's the boy Uncle Murder, AKA Led Jet. Lenny woke.

[Host]

And it's the real report. Make sure y' all like, share. Subscribe. We got one of the top battle rappers in the world, man. In the world, man. Dead or alive. Make some noise. Loaded. Lux in the building. Yeah, Legend, man.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, Legend.

[Host]

Lux, man. Glad to have you in the building, man.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Host]

First thing I want to ask you is because me, Murder and Eden, we talk about this all the time. We miss battle rap on YouTube. I know when it went to shout to smack, I know it went to caffeine. Do you feel like you miss it on YouTube, too? How do you feel about it?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I feel like the hype is gone. It's like it got quiet.

[Loaded Lux]

I think that's what went into it a little bit when they removed it from YouTube. Because, you know, a lot of things, you know, the world today is a lot, excuse me, subscription based and things of that nature. You know what I'm saying? So I ain't gonna hold you. You know, smack built up the platform enough to where, you know, him walking into that exclusivity lane. It made sense at the time for what they was doing. So here it is. It's up in the air, right? Cause on one end, you going, damn. It's not as visible as you would like it to be for the masses, right? But then on one hand. Cause the caffeine thing is really kind of what started it. Caffeine wanted, let's get all that content.

[Host]

But you don't feel like the number's going up. Cause guys like you, Mook, and certain guys like, it went, yo, I need 50,000. It came to a point where you be. You hear guys say, I need 20,000 to battle. 50,000 to battle. You know, y' all was you know, some of them guys.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, no, no.

[Host]

So I feel like that kind of slowed the game up, what I seen,

[Loaded Lux]

you know what I mean? Oh, the purses, the type of money they was asking for. I mean, big money, you know.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Can't knock that though. Cause they was generating that money too. So once niggas learn the business and start realizing, oh, this is how much we making.

[Loaded Lux]

Niggas want the money naturally, you know what I'm saying?

[Host]

But N can't afford the battle now. He said n can't afford the battle. Nah.

[Loaded Lux]

But I feel like everything ain't for everybody. Like you gotta know who you are, what you generating to ask for them type of numbers.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Gotcha.

[Loaded Lux]

You know what I'm saying? You gotta make it make sense. Like this is an industry, you know what I mean? I was there, you know, at the commencement. Niggas was on a block.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

No, of course. Now you one of the ones that can ask for a certain number. Cause you gonna generate.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, you know, I mean, look, we put in the necessary steps to do this. Like people like me, Mook. You know what I'm saying? Hollow. Like some people who was just there when it went into building it up. So once it got to a space where, okay, now people coming through the doors, you know, they paying a yard to come through the door. It's different things with the streaming. It's different. Like we looking at the world gravitate to what we was just doing on a regular every day. So I watched it turn in the industry.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You got the rappers highlighting in there.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. You know what I mean? People showing up.

[Host]

You had Joe Buttons Battle.

[Loaded Lux]

He battled Hollow.

[Host]

He battled Hollow. That was battle.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That was some big money.

[Host]

Everybody was talking about the battles.

[Loaded Lux]

So, you know, we generating a lot of eyes at this point, you know what I'm saying? So I'm not mad at people, you know, getting right on they business, you know. But I feel you when you say, now here's the thing. It turns into an industry and then people are looking at all of these different streams to get the revenue. So then now it's like where that content you was just. Yo, for the world of Watch. It's like once they take them certain deals and it's like, okay, that's like what's going on with the Breakfast Club and shit like that. It's like you're not relevant.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Damn, that's crazy. No facts. I know.

[Host]

Nah, you not on it. People miss you on YouTube. Shout out to the Breakfast Club next week.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Shout out to the Breakfast Club.

[Host]

They want to see you on YouTube. I totally agree. Because I'm a fan of Debo. Queen of the Ring.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Host]

I'm a fan of smack. I'm a fan of what was the guys in Canada.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. Oh, Kotd Kot.

[Host]

I was. I'm a fan of them. I met one of them in Canada before. Oh, shit. So it's like every day, it was like there was something new with battle rap. Somebody was battling Ivory, the Chicks. Cause we had Bonnie up here.

[Loaded Lux]

Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Host]

I put the money up Shayna, Ashley, you know me.

[Loaded Lux]

You wanna see Bonnie and Shayna?

[Host]

Yeah, I would love to see that. You know, I.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You know, who you think of win that? Just on the side note, right quick, who you think of win that?

[Loaded Lux]

I mean, I always say in battle rap, it's any given Sunday, okay? Cause everybody, Everybody is formidable. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Bonnie is crazy, Shayna is crazy. So it's who lock in jazz.

[Host]

The rapper's crazy.

[Loaded Lux]

Jazz is crazy.

[Host]

40 bars is crazy.

[Loaded Lux]

Like, you could pretty much bring up any name that's relevant and got some, like, you talked about. Or the streets know him in barbershops. And Beau, if you got a name. Even the dudes that don't got a name lyrically know what they doing.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

You know what I mean? It's technical work, but, you know those that show up, like, for their opponent, for what the situation is. Yeah, man, that's who you gonna get.

[Host]

Why you feel like they keep battle rappers in a box? Like, y' all niggas got Drake fucking balls like Drake and them niggas.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

But they feel like battle rap niggas can't make a record.

[Loaded Lux]

I think that's people. I think that's the state of the world. You know, people receive information how they get it. And then it's the conditioning, so the mind locks on. Listen, I know Kevin Hart for comedy. I'm not going to see him in no concert like Chocolate Dropper. I'm not going to do that. He is, you know, expert in that. So I think, look, people, the conditioning. We seen you in our living rooms doing this thing for as long as we seen you doing this thing.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

We don't want to hear you trying

[Loaded Lux]

to make no, don't up my entertainment.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

We need to know who you battling next type shit.

[Host]

But you don't think battle rappers, like, hang with, like, cuz, no, not too many battle rappers hang with regular rappers. Like, you consider us regular rappers, like.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Now you My friend, I don't like that term.

[Host]

Not regular rappers. I mean, we look like big rappers, but it's crazy, you know what I'm saying?

[Loaded Lux]

I knew what he meant.

[Host]

Know what I'm saying? Like, battle rappers stay in their box. Like, for instance, one of my favorite records, Murder Put Me on was Leaf Ward, Sue Surf and my man Mills, Risk takers. And then I kind of.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That was Leaf Ward, Albiel and Mills.

[Host]

Yeah,

[Interviewer/Co-host]

he got a record with Sue Surf, too.

[Host]

That's how I was shout out to Albl. We gotta get him on the show. But there was another one with Sue Surf, right? And I'm like, oh, shit. Cause Leaf Water is one of my favorites out of Philly. I can't lie.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Free Leaf Ward, man.

[Host]

Free Leaf Ward pumping that nigga shit. It just feels, though, like dope, you know, we want the balls.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You know, Surf made that transition a little bit because niggas on the streets be fucking with surf music on some. Like, for real. So he made the transition? Yeah. N fuck with Surf.

[Host]

Nah, that's what I'm saying. He made the transition. But when I heard him on a record with Leaf Ward, I was like, oh, shit.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Like.

[Host]

Like, I ain't hear nothing from him in a while, but now I'm checking for his shit.

[Loaded Lux]

That's good. See, you had to hear it. You know what I mean? Like, you used to seeing Surf, you getting busy on that stage doing what he doing. But then, look, Leaf, you didn't know them, but that connection to you loving that music and you just happen to hear Surf and go, oh, shit, it sound good.

[Host]

Yeah, man.

[Loaded Lux]

Know what he doing. Definitely. And that's all. People just got to be a little bit more receptive to what's going on in the world. And that's all of us. That's me included. We're conditioned creatures of habit. We go about the day what we used to until, you know, a few things, something happens, and then you may alter, you know, but that's just living.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

How you think we get. How you think we get the battle rap thing back? Popping. Being that it's so many different channels back on YouTube.

[Loaded Lux]

That's it.

[Host]

And great performances and Deebo, bring back Queen of the Ring, man. You playing around.

[Loaded Lux]

That's how you listen. That's why, you know, me and Mook was going crazy.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

It's easy to say that, though. Bring it back on YouTube. But we talking about all this money that N is getting with these other companies and shit like that. So how you just gonna go back to YouTube like that.

[Host]

I don't know.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, but see, here's the thing. I feel like there's a healthy balance. I was telling and bees and them like, I see it now more and more so. But even though they doing it probably like you see it in little ads on the gram and different things. But I was like, we gotta release. You gotta. Even if you don't drop the whole thing, you gotta put content out there.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Got you.

[Host]

But I feel like if people can't

[Interviewer/Co-host]

tease some of the people with the battles, at least put some of the battles on the gram. Let people know what's out there and

[Loaded Lux]

let them know where they can locate it.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Copy. Got you.

[Loaded Lux]

You don't just make the abrupt move like that.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host]

But my whole thing is, if you can't see the content, how is it going to be relevant? You got to be able to see the content.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Because now you got to go sign up to all these other platforms that they got now, right?

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Listen, let me give you the perfect example. Mr. Beast is one of the biggest people on. You would say, on YouTube, right? He does 127 million views on YouTube, but he's on Amazon Prime. So if I ever was to do a deal like that, or any deal, I would want to have an episode of the Real Report on Netflix and an episode of the real report on YouTube. That's just me being truthful. Just like Drew Ski speaking into existence.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, I like how you just pitched that out there. Yeah, keep talking.

[Host]

Just like Drew Ski talking, my brother. When Drew Ski do. Could have been records and he do. For the love of Drew Ski. He'll have it. Some of it on YouTube and some of it on VH1 or wherever it's at. That's all I'm saying. So when I used to wake up. Cause there was a time where everybody just went to YouTube just for battle rap, bro.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's a fact.

[Host]

I'm just keeping 100. I knew every battle. Whatever battle was next, I knew now where I'm gonna find it. You know, I gotta ask Lux. One of the most. I would say it's in the top five of battles of all time.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Which one you talking about?

[Host]

It's him with Calico. You know, pulled out the. You had the hearse. You had the palm bearers.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, You.

[Host]

You had the suit on.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I need y' all to bring all that footage up to what you talking about.

[Host]

All that footage shout to Calico. But I feel like that battle right there changed the fucking game.

[Loaded Lux]

Indeed.

[Host]

It made battle rap 100, 100 more entertaining. Yeah, that state, that battle rap. How many years ago was that? Was it 2012? Yeah, it was 2012.

[Loaded Lux]

14, 15 years ago.

[Host]

And that's one battle 15 years ago. No fighting. No, because, you know, fighting, you always remember battle. You know, one of these punching.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

And Calico was crushing at that time, too.

[Host]

Calico.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

He was crushing.

[Loaded Lux]

That's actually how the battle happened.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Exactly. Cause he was crushing. That's back when I was kind of really into it. He was crushing.

[Host]

This is what I want to know. Because to me, that was, like, one of the most entertaining battles. Top five battles of all time. You rung a hearse out, it was a movie. You had the girls with fucking shit on their face.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. The widowers.

[Host]

You had the fucking obituaries. Yeah. What the fuck was the thought process in that battle?

[Loaded Lux]

Just showmanship. Like, we was at Webster hall that year. So that was a movie in itself. Like, I'm very, like, 200ft in front of me in terms of, like, when we get those pivotal steps. Excuse me. Those pivotal moves where we, like, you know, get to, you know, have a stage or audience. For real.

[Host]

For real.

[Loaded Lux]

When it's grand like that. I don't know. I just. I'm serious about the craft. Like, I'm a real craftsman when it comes to this shit. I'm a Virgo man. So I get extra, extra, like, and anal about this shit. So pause.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

You know, pause. Gotta pause everything. But

[Interviewer/Co-host]

that hold you down. You know what I mean?

[Loaded Lux]

But when it was going on, when all that was taking place, I'm mindful that. Yo, I still. When that was happening, I ain't been on a set for, like, four joints, four or five years. You know what I'm saying? Cause I started the Lions, then I started getting into that space, definitely. You know what I mean? So once I was doing the Lions, then I wasn't active.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I'm not gonna lie. I thought Calico was gonna get you. Cause you wasn't active, like you said.

[Host]

No.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You admitted he wasn't active. No. Real talk. He wasn't on the scene for a minute. It was like people was calling you to come back for a minute. So I'm like, oh, man, he gonna have a hard time for that.

[Host]

Lux is New York Lux.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Of course.

[Loaded Lux]

That's how it happens.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

But he understand. He ain't been around for a while. He wasn't into it for a while.

[Host]

Niggas like him and Mook and you never sleep on DNA. You Know, people sue surf gun titles. N them niggas are gonna perform.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

He said the gun titles.

[Host]

So you gotta think about it. The thing about Lux is Lux don't just perform for the crowd. He put on a show, he coming, nigga. Like, he's gonna have that. Beloved.

[Loaded Lux]

Beloved.

[Host]

Jay Z talked about that. You know, that was the most classic battle. Like, what was that? 20 years? 18 years, 15 years ago.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

14 years ago. 14 years ago.14 years ago.

[Host]

14 years ago. And that's what I'm like, yo, that's the number one question I wanted to ask him. Like, what was the thought process to

[Interviewer/Co-host]

make you come with the casket and everything like that?

[Host]

What the fuck made you think. Let's get back to that. What made you think of that?

[Loaded Lux]

Nah, I ain't gonna hold y'. All. I gotta give all the glory to Up Top. When I say that. I know how I put myself in a space. And then whatever happens from there, creatively, I'm gonna go with. And I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna do it. So, yeah, I caught the ideas. Shit, sister. I caught that idea, like, two weeks before the joint. Two weeks. I'm like. Cause I'm already drilling. I had at first, when Smack asked me to do the battle, I'm like. He asked me. I said, cool. Then I. It was just some back and forth real quick.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

As far as the money. Yeah,

[Loaded Lux]

some back and forth real quick.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

But it's all good. Gotta get the business right.

[Host]

It's all good.

[Loaded Lux]

It's all good.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

But once the business got right, we got to it.

[Loaded Lux]

So I ain't have too much time. But I had some time. And yeah, Calico was. Cause that year he battled math. And then on this day, he called me out that bad. It's really like. I got that. I'm like, oh, sure. He think it's like, you can't call your Harlem shit. Yeah.

[Host]

He said, more beds than what hospital?

[Loaded Lux]

Harlem Hospital giving beds out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Break down every round that.

[Host]

I'm saying some shit, man.

[Loaded Lux]

Nothing, man. I was saying some shit.

[Host]

That was tougher than that right there.

[Loaded Lux]

Rusty tools in the shared house.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

He had got math. That shit got mad. He got mad that year.

[Host]

No, Calico was on the run.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

He was.

[Host]

But what I'm saying is it wasn't

[Interviewer/Co-host]

like the casket was ill to come

[Host]

out with the casket. Everything was crazy.

[Loaded Lux]

No, listen, if somebody out there and they gonna tune into this, hit me like. Cause, you know, we put out obituaries. Yeah, we did the whole thing. And I Wasn't no look. Wasn't no AI or none of that. All of that. Everything you see in that obituary, if you got an obituary from that battle, word for word, I put all that. I wrote all of that. Yeah, like, you know, we pull that up. Pull that up.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

The obituary.

[Host]

That's what I'm saying, man. So you. When you. When you really, really, really think about it, like, that kind of really propelled theatrics.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, to me.

[Host]

Cause later on down the line now the ill shit is when niggas have the paperwork party. Yo, hold on. N have picture. Baby moms now, niggas. That's what made battle to me. Battle rap to me is harder than being an artist because the artists know they song. We get up there with 50amurder, murder. He might not know the rap up. It's like 10 minutes. You know our song, right? He might forget that. 10 minutes long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Look, he ain't remembering that.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, you. This nigga did.

[Host]

But for a battle rap, you. For battle rap, you gotta have all the bars in your head.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. Indeed.

[Host]

The timing, the crowd, how to play the crowd screaming in your face without fighting, spitting, spitting. Then you got his boys in the back behind you, amping ice, grilling you and a million Goombas. Yeah, you can't choke. You know, once you choke that. They talk about that shit for like. Yeah, yeah. 20 years down the line. Shout out to everybody that choked up.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Mok used to have that tall with him. Remember? The tall, black tall?

[Host]

Everybody had everybody.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

It was always. You never know what's gonna happen at a battle. Rap.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

Nah, it's. It's a movie like the thing. Yo, the thing about it is that's what makes a battle a battle, right? It's the execution under that degree of just traffic.

[Host]

So what was your day like? You was like, yo, I'm spending this on the hearse. I got the girls. What was your day like that?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

How much you paid for that hearse?

[Host]

What was the moment?

[Loaded Lux]

I had a family member did that for me.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Oh, for real?

[Loaded Lux]

Okay, then, look, everybody talk about the hurt, but we bought out the pawn box, though, remember? We?

[Host]

No, I remember the pawn box. You had the everything.

[Loaded Lux]

You had the girls box for them. Yeah, yeah. Brought out the palm box. I had. That day was crazy. My whole hood was just outside. We was bringing the pawn box out, the whole hood outside. We got the hearse outside.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That was crazy, man.

[Host]

Those were the good old days.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Battle rap, the energy.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, listen, why I Pull up and we parked the hearse right there.

[Host]

Yeah, they had the cameras. You had the cameras and all that shit.

[Loaded Lux]

Movie.

[Host]

I never forgot that battle, man. Fourteen years later, nigga. I had to ask you that fucking question.

[Loaded Lux]

Nah, but. But so. And then look to bring it full circle. This is why I feel when. When. When we go, damn, where that. Oh, where's it at? At? Or where I believe in? When you bring truth to the table, when you bring all of what you. Cause, everything. The most I could say to people that went into that, that, you know, that really made it what it was, was just me sticking to the script. You know what I'm saying? It was like, I just really wanted. I knew the people was coming. We ain't never had a venue like Webster Hall. Battle rap is, like, being showcased. We got the lights, we got a stage. I mean, you know, Puff was in the audience. We got Busta, we got Q. Tip was up. Like the world is watching. Facts, what you gonna do, champ?

[Host]

Remember that?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Facts.

[Loaded Lux]

Feel me? The world was watching. So battle rap ain't never had no look like that until that.

[Host]

Yes, sir.

[Loaded Lux]

You know what I mean? And shout out to everything. You know what I mean? Everybody on that card, man. Did they numbers move? That's when rex got the 10. When puff threw out the 10. You like, what, you gonna put the 10 on this round? And Rex went crazy. Like, all of that happened in the building that day. Rex went crazy.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That was crazy.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah. When you bong that, the main thing you remember is that hearse and that.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That shit.

[Host]

I felt like the battle was over once the hearse came and all.

[Loaded Lux]

But look, though, nah. Cause we could have did all that.

[Host]

You still have, boss. Don't get me wrong. You had quotes on there. The Harlem Hospital. Shit.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Beloved Jay Z. How'd you feel when Jay Z was fucking, bro?

[Loaded Lux]

It wasn't even, like, real. Like, that was so surreal. I'm on the phone with my man Uncasa. Me and Uncasa talking. That's crazy. Cause we was talking. Boom, boom, boom. We just hung up. He called me back. I'm on the phone with my pops now. Boom, boom, boom. Talking with my pops. He keep calling like, yo, what happened, nigga? Do you see what. You see the tweet? And then the phone just started going crazy from there. The phone was just. It was just surreal.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Facts.

[Host]

Nah, that's why we gotta transition to the music, Sue Surf doing it. I know a lot of artists doing it. Talk about you transitioning to the music. Back to the music, the bars. We wanna hear that. Cause I know you can make the records.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no doubt. Yo, and that's the thing. I actually started making music at the same time we was battling. Like, battling was just fun in my neighborhood. Like, that's some shit we did, like, after the parties and all of that, you know what I'm saying? But shout out to Head Ice, you know what I mean?

[Host]

The big bro used to, like, Head Ice, Wolf used to take to the

[Loaded Lux]

studio, like, faithfully, like, you know what I'm saying? They used to have me in obsessions, you know what I mean? And so I got a real, like, keen sense of what it took to. Oh, shit, you know, count your balls like this. All of that I got from day one. So at the same time, I was making music. I probably was making music before I was really battling. Okay, but, you know, rapping, like, just on a block, like, that's like, shout out to the Wolf. Shout out to Head Ice. Shout out to gorgeous gangsta Gigi, you already know, said no to. I used to have powwows with the elders, with the. With the OGs. And they used to, you know, huddle up, let me hear something. Like, that was. Nigga, that was duty. Like, they had it on. Like, no, all right, I heard that last week. Let me hear something. And so you had to have your shit ready.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Got to be sharp.

[Host]

Gotta stay sharp. Gotta stay sharp. I mean, the battle rap niggas, like you said, a nigga that don't got a name is still sharp with his shit.

[Loaded Lux]

So, yeah, that's the thing that you

[Host]

see, like, when most of your battles, the whole shit is like, damn, how the fuck. Or a lot of battle raps be like, how the fuck he came up with that? See, like, with a nigga rapping, like, not battle rapping, he got bars, but he could make it into a hit. Cause it's like when you listen to a Drake. Drake got bars, but he could still turn a record into a hit. Cause he could do different things. Melodies.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, shit like that. Yeah, See, you got the cadence, you got the music to work with, you know what I'm saying? So it's different vibes. And that's why, listen, every science, every branch on a tree got a rhythm, you know what I'm saying? So if it's making music, you gotta learn the formats in which. Yo, you know what I mean? Don't color out of the lines, like, you know what I mean? Stay in this pocket. You know, we on topic with this record. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know what I mean? And it's the same like. So when you get to battling, that's a rhythm. And within itself, I know how first round, how I should be depending on who you are and yo it. Yeah, man.

[Host]

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[Interviewer/Co-host]

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[Host]

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[Host]

Yeah. I feel like smack up.

[Loaded Lux]

And I'll tell you why. Damn.

[Host]

I'm gonna tell you why.

[Loaded Lux]

That transition was crazy.

[Host]

Talk to your. I'm gonna tell you why. Smack fucked up. Cause you gotta really think of that time, though. I'm really sitting here thinking it was a point where Drake wanted to battle Mook. Yeah, yeah. What the fuck? I'm just like, hold on. That shit was like changing the game. You had Joe Buttons battling hollow. Know what I'm saying? Niggas was throwing big offers to Banks.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

N wanted to see Banks. I know.

[Loaded Lux]

We want to see Fab and Banks, man.

[Host]

Oh, of course. I know what Banks would do to Fab. Fab is nice, though. I know everybody's on Fab spot. He from Brooklyn. He's from Brooklyn. Brooklyn n always stick together. They kill each other on their off hours. You know how that shit goes.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Who you think. Who you think out of family?

[Loaded Lux]

I ain't gonna listen. I ain't gonna hold you. I'm gonna say it right now, straight up. No chaser now.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Cause you neutral. You from Harlem.

[Host]

Let's hear this.

[Loaded Lux]

But no, I ain't really Neutral.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

We got the neutral Harlem guy right here.

[Loaded Lux]

Me and Mook been having conversations about this though.

[Host]

Okay, so Mook is one sided though. He be on some.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

No, we can't. No, don't stop. Oh my God. Look, Mook is from Harlem. Yeah, don't. Mook is from Harle.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, let's go.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I want to hear these conversations.

[Host]

And Lux, you got to keep the G unit hate.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Oh my God. You got to keep the 50% hate this guy.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, listen, listen.

[Host]

A lot of y' all niggas are friends with these guys. You know what I mean?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Listen.

[Host]

All right, go ahead.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Can my man talk for a minute, man?

[Loaded Lux]

Let's go. Now listen, this is how I feel. Honestly, like Mook pro. We've had these conversations so many times. I think though, in a battle. In a battle. I'm already. I'm with Banks. I'm with Plk. What you mean?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

What kind of battle you talking about though?

[Host]

A battle. He just said Banks.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Nah, I mean, what you talking about?

[Loaded Lux]

So look, I'm saying Fab here, Banks here. And yeah, we in the same room and it's going up.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You talking about doing your type of battle. All right. Okay, now.

[Host]

Oh, you want to go record battle?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

No, that's what I didn't know what he was talking about is what I'm asking him. I didn't know because it's different. Different when you asking somebody like, when you ask somebody like Lux and Mo, it's different. That's what I'm asking him. I wanted to know. I wanted to know what kind of. I wanted to know what kind of battle he was talking about.

[Host]

He said in a room, ball for

[Interviewer/Co-host]

ball, ball for ball. You think like Banks to get bad.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. Cause here's the thing. They both, both of their penmanship is, is, is there. But see, when you, you gotta perform in them rooms, man. And you know, only thing, that's what I could say. I feel it wouldn't be such a transition for Banks to get in that space to where it's just, yeah, we here now. It's raw. It's like this is what it is. Fab. I feel like Fab. Fab. It's not that he can't do it, but Willie, that's my thing. Cause here's the thing. In contention, I just, I'm not too like, I feel like Fab, be cool. I don't know. I can't picture Fab in that space to where. Nah, the gloves is off, nigga. Like, it's that now. So I've never me when I go into them spaces, I don't see it. Banks. I've kind of seen Banks cut up to where he'll give you that grit he'll get out of. You know what I mean? It ain't.

[Host]

But for me, this is what I say. Skills pay the bills, right? That's why you one of the best at what you do. You know what I mean? Skills pay the bills. Floyd Mayweather and fucking Javante. Skills pay the bills. Yeah, for sure. Banks is in Germany now. Last time we talked about this, I think he was in France or something. When we talked about it on the Breakfast Club, we was like, yo, what's Fad doing? And what's Banks doing? Banks is in Germany now. He's on another tour. So him, the G Unit brand is so much bigger of a brand.

[Loaded Lux]

I would just. I wanna. I respect.

[Host]

So let's think of who y' all got. Y' all got Big, Big who, Big L what Harlem. Y' all got a lot of heavy hitters.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. I mean, shit.

[Host]

What's Big Al? Mace.

[Loaded Lux]

What's Mace?

[Host]

How'd you feel about Max B saying he better than Mace?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

He said he better than Big Daddy Kane, man.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, he said he better than Kane. No, he said his game shot. Shot some balls out, yo.

[Host]

Kane is.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, I respect Kane. Shout out to Big Daddy Kane.

[Loaded Lux]

Shout out to Big Daddy Kane.

[Host]

We met. Kane and N was paying homage. Me and Murder and Coogee Rap got to. We was trying to figure out why Rakim didn't make it. Rakim was like, yo, I'll make it. I noticed some kind of beef there. I definitely want to find Rakim and

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Kane and Kane is official, man. I told you.

[Host]

They never did a show together.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

They never did a show together.

[Loaded Lux]

It's official, man, but look, they never

[Host]

did a show together, brother, and never did a song together.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Who that?

[Loaded Lux]

Never did a show together.

[Host]

They never did a show. Remember he was supposed. It was supposed to be big daddy came 50 hat on there. Rakim. And Rakim was like, yo, I don't. Nah, I got Covid or something. I don't know. I don't think he would lie, but it was just like, damn, they N never did. We never seen them in a room together.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's crazy.

[Loaded Lux]

What?

[Host]

It's like Jay and Nas. When I look at Kane and Rakim. No, you don't look like that.

[Loaded Lux]

Didn't we had him. Nah. Yo, can you. I see y' all pulling up stuff on.

[Host]

They never did a song together, bro.

[Loaded Lux]

Who we had in the. In the. I mean, we had them in the room together.

[Host]

I've been around all the greats, man. They never been in the room.

[Loaded Lux]

Didn't we have Big Daddy, King Caris Running Rakim and Alliance Den?

[Host]

They might. They never performed together.

[Loaded Lux]

Nah, they ain't performed, but they never do.

[Host]

They have a song together, but they

[Interviewer/Co-host]

was in the room together, man.

[Host]

What live show have they done together?

[Loaded Lux]

Shout out to Kid Capri.

[Host]

Oh, yeah, we had Kid Capri on the show. Yeah, I got a chance to meet all the greats. Kane Coogee, rap biz. Mark E. Was one of my favorites. To me, he commercialized rap. Oh, baby. Cause we. I think we came out. Was it.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's still performing together right there.

[Host]

They on the stage together.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, after a while, you can't, like, should be about the culture, you know what I mean?

[Host]

Who you think is your top five, like, of that time? Cause I always loved the 80s rap. I say I'm not gonna have no order, but I always say Kane Rakim on there. I would put Slick Rick on there.

[Loaded Lux]

See, it's hard. You know why it's hard for me to.

[Host]

Oh, you gotta put LL on there.

[Loaded Lux]

See, I wasn't in the streets, though. See, y'. All, you outside experiencing it. I'm a baby. So when you outside experiencing, not only is you hearing the music n. You watching the vibe, you see the scene. So people be, like, rating different things. Like, yo, yeah, skills pay the bills. But it's everything that comes with an impact.

[Host]

Now, Harlem, y' all got legends, but let's think about the legends. Y' all got Big L from back in the days. Let me think. Dougie Fresh was that nigga, though. Doug E. Fresh. Come on, man. Doug E. Fresh. That's one of y' all top rappers.

[Loaded Lux]

Hell, yeah.

[Host]

I'm fucking with Fergie, baby, right now. Who the Fergie, baby? Oh, yeah, I like Fergie, baby. I like Chuck Cash.

[Loaded Lux]

What you know about Chuck, man?

[Host]

I fuck with Chuck Cash, I think his time is coming.

[Loaded Lux]

Oh, shit.

[Host]

I fuck with Neith Bucks.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You know what I'm saying?

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You talking about I fuck with a

[Host]

lot, but I'm liking Fergie, baby now.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Host]

At Harlem, East River Drive.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

I didn't even know Rob Basis from Harlem.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Definitely.

[Loaded Lux]

What?

[Host]

Well, he's one of them, too, because he commercialized. You watch video Music Box.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You had to know that.

[Host]

I know.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, that's crazy, because you know what I. I want to do for the Project. I'm gonna do something with Ralph.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Oh, that'd be dope.

[Loaded Lux]

Cause I gotta look. No shameless plug, right? But this Strava's Row shit, right? This in Harlem, this was one of them blocks. This was one of the areas.

[Host]

Strava's real.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah. Okay.

[Loaded Lux]

Cause when they first started putting blacks. Get that real estate and come and purchase some of the space that was there. Cause, you know, it was. You know what it was then. But like, around 1919, like, when all of them started coming in that space in that area, I ain't gonna say, like, it made the property value what it was. But for black America, it definitely did. Na mean, you got the who's. Who's being in those spaces and coming through there. So what it did was it allowed for a lot of minds, a lot of vibes to come through. And when it shed light on. You think. We was just talking about what you was telling me, Conway. Talking about, look, the power to pull up.

[Host]

The power to pull up.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, you got everybody who's somebody in that time, though, right? Two, three blocks away from each other. So they commuting the best of the best Black aristocrats. I don't care if you was in arts, music, if you was an educator, whoever. All of the prominent figures was a block away from each other. And it wasn't no social media. They all knew, was aware of each other and would go to your door.

[Host]

Yeah, there's a lot of crazy history in Harlem that, like, a lot of important people. Back in the days, black people in Harlem was, like, successful. It's been a flashy place for a long time. Everybody know you get a new car or something. You go to Harlem, Niggas is outside. It's always a movie. What was it like? You think that being in Harlem helps you be a better battle rapper? Because the pressure's on. You know, you got a crowd of N. You and Mook battling in Harlem in different places.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I feel like.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Who won the U battle, man?

[Loaded Lux]

Um, I think Mook. Well, the first one. The first one they was giving to me. Cause then it was like we rapped for, like, on camera. It might have been maybe five, six rounds on camera. But then we was outside, too, rapping. See, the only thing y' all see now is three rounds apiece. Right? You know what I'm saying? When we was gone, we was still straight off the block with it. You rap until you ran out of rhymes.

[Host]

The essence.

[Loaded Lux]

That's when Smack was pulling up. He Was catching that.

[Host]

Yeah, that was. That was shout to Smack. That was smack.

[Loaded Lux]

That's when the Harlem, I always say, is the Mecca.

[Host]

How young was the chaos?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Cause I never know. Cause I never know how you get. Like, how they be determining who wins sometime, right? So you said, like, you just said. You said the first one they gave to you.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

What you mean when you say that? Y' all battled more than once.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. You seen the second one was showcase three rounds. Yeah. The second one we did at total slaughter.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

So. All right. You said the first killed this. So the first one you said was you. Then you feel like he got the second one.

[Loaded Lux]

Second one, for sure.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Okay.

[Loaded Lux]

Copy for sure.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Okay.

[Loaded Lux]

This was me and my theme, My Rich Porter shit.

[Host]

Yo, this is why I say smack. Fucked up. Cause even it was damn. No, no, no.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Why you keep saying smack?

[Host]

Cause you gotta think about it.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

No, because that's why he played.

[Host]

Cause it's like, yo, I wanna watch battle rap. But it's like, where the fuck I'm finding in that caffeine you gotta go to?

[Loaded Lux]

Well, look, they feel you, man.

[Host]

Where the fuck I'm finding that?

[Loaded Lux]

Aob. Look, URLTV tv. That's where you gotta go.

[Host]

All right. I guess I gotta go there.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

URL. Now, right?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

URL.

[Host]

I didn't know that.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, they got an app, man.

[Host]

Well, niggas gotta promote this shit and put it out there.

[Loaded Lux]

That's what I'm telling you.

[Host]

It's just. You want to see more of it. Even if y' all get promotion to put more of it and spread it everywhere.

[Loaded Lux]

But he is. They dropping clips and feeds and different things and letting people know, like.

[Host]

But it don't feel the same like before. You know what I'm saying? It was like, more to the league. Like I said, Queen of the Ring. That was one of my shits. Like, so if y' all niggas wasn't battling, I go to Queen of the Ring. So I started liking all the female battle rappers.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I get what you said. Like, I don't even know what's happening right now. So who popping right now? Like, who. Who tearing shit up right now?

[Host]

There's so many.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, like, right now.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Cause I. Like you said, I don't get to see. I don't. I'm not into this, is what I'm saying.

[Host]

But there was a point when we go to YouTube and you just pop up. That's a thing.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

It would just pop up.

[Host]

It was a time where you just

[Interviewer/Co-host]

find yourself watching so many other ones

[Host]

to look for it. That's all I'm saying. Nigga started battling in London. Yeah, it was worldwide. Canada, disaster. All them niggas like fighting. All kind of shit was going on. What's my man that got killed too? He was nice too, that got stabbed, right? Yeah. Rest in peace. To pass state. He was one of them too. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like it was going worldwide, huh?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Who fucked it up?

[Loaded Lux]

The money. The money.

[Host]

He was gonna say that Smack and

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Beasley shout out to my smack and be gonna get them.

[Loaded Lux]

Nah, but look that, that speaks to. Look that speaks up.

[Host]

Cause deep, I heard Debo signed to smack, right? He with smack at a point or.

[Loaded Lux]

No, I didn't.

[Host]

Was supposed to go there or something.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I don't know.

[Loaded Lux]

I don't know your politics. I don't.

[Host]

Queen of the Ring disappeared too.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

But it was. You can't say smacked it up because everybody started going to get their bag. Everybody. Everybody started going to get their own bag.

[Host]

Nah, but when he did the caffeine deal, just felt like it was cut short. Off of YouTube a little bit. That's all I'm saying. Like, I went from. Like I said, murder. It's tough. I went from three to four battles a day. DNA, this nigga Hollow. This nigga Ms. Hustle. Shayna, this. I'm watching everything. Even when Bonnie battled UNP just now, right? Yeah, I caught it. Cause it was like on the gram. But it's like the marketing is less right now. That's all I'm saying. You do a project, you doing a Stravus project. Rain, that's gonna be big. But niggas wanna. Y' all gonna have to. We wanna see you on Flex. We wanna see you on the radar. We wanna see you on Sway. Just for the marketing of it. That's what I think battle rappers gotta do. Go to serious radio, go to Flex. So we know whatever's coming or whatever battle is coming because it's less traffic on YouTube with the. With. With battle rap.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, I feel. I feel you. I feel you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, it did look for somebody. And I'm glad you making mention of this too, because there's a lot of avid watchers that feel like you. You know what I mean, with that vibe. And it's good because the different people that counsel leagues and different things could see that. And I always made it a weirdest smack. I'm like, whoa. That's why you see all my battles was on.

[Host]

Nigga, you know how many face offs Was crazy. Suck my dick.

[Loaded Lux]

Dub, dub, dub.

[Host]

Yo, smd. Face Off. Yo, I slapped your mom. Yeah, Face Off. Course the Face off is. You know, they.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

You know, even the face. The dudes that was doing the Face off with the bow ties and the glasses breaking the fights up. Dudes and each other do switch. Yo, that was content, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that content is gone. Like, you can't. You really don't see it.

[Loaded Lux]

Like, I mean, they still put the face. They still put face offs up. You know what I mean? Different things like that.

[Host]

But they gotta promote it more, man.

[Loaded Lux]

You want that energy. He missed the energy.

[Host]

I want that battle rap energy. There was a time where y', all, like, n wasn't even paying attention to music. It was like, yo, I'm gonna go catch this battle, dog. You gotta make it back. I'm telling you. The people feel like that

[Loaded Lux]

now. I know niggas just be in the.

[Host]

Know what I'm saying?

[Loaded Lux]

Niggas just be like, yo, that's all the niggas watch. But look what.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

It be some good battles right now, man. Would it be some good battles right now? I think that also Fab and Banks. I think.

[Host]

I mean, I think it would get back. I think it would get fabbing.

[Loaded Lux]

Banks will bring battle. Battle. We here. And I like, listen, I wasn't. Cause I be seeing Fab.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

See, I don't think they gonna do that, go ball for ball, no dissing each other type shit. I think when people talk about Fab and Banks, they just talk about putting their music up. I don't see them going like, y'. All, like you. And I don't see them doing that.

[Loaded Lux]

You know, my thing was. Cause they had the aptitude to do. Would really be a spectacle. You know how if we just talking about dudes getting to their bag. What a Fab and Banks battle. Like, we do it. You know how much you could just.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

No, that would definitely. I think that would definitely bring a play.

[Host]

I think we getting off the subject here. I would love to see. Let me go to my battle list. I would like to see Sousurk versus Lux.

[Loaded Lux]

Oh, that happened.

[Host]

I wanna see it again, though. Sue Surf versus Lux.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Who won that one? When it happened, you won that one.

[Host]

Of course.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Okay.

[Loaded Lux]

Why we wanna see it again?

[Host]

I just wanna see it again just to. Okay, I'm gonna see Murder Mooc verse now. Mook and Surf, I want to see.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Did they battle before?

[Host]

No, I want to see Mook verse like a DNA of somebody. I want to see him against DNA. Because I felt like when y', all, y', all. When y' all stop. What's my man? What's my man? That is always with DNA. I'm bugging for his damn high. His bad. His clips.

[Loaded Lux]

Charlie clips.

[Host]

No, not Charlie clips. DNA, man. Now he always battle k'. Sean. My bad. K', Sean, I know who you are. I'm a fan, you know what I'm saying? But I felt like when you like, to me, there was a time where you and luck stopped. Like, yo, you and Mook stop. Y' all was like, my man. Them Hollywood 100,000 the battle. Oh, man. Up the game.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

K. Sean and DNA, they up the game too. Yeah, I heard them it up too.

[Host]

Smack prices went up. Smack wasn't paying that 1500,000 smack.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Said these is fucking the.

[Host]

Said they was going to the.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's going to try to flip on you Smack. Y' all got it out the mud together. The start talking about they need a honey.

[Host]

K. Yo, now think about it. K. Sean and DNA, kind of like, that's when a lot of new niggas was like taking up the slack because y' all niggas was getting too pricey. Like y' all was just to a point where it was just like, damn, I just heard hearing big numbers and sign a contract and what I make, nigga, I make this nigga what you make. It was a lot of money talk on that shit at that point. Cause think about it. Drake wanted to battle Mook.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Did he really want to battle Mook?

[Loaded Lux]

Yes, he was going to do it.

[Host]

That was the pinnacle.

[Loaded Lux]

Hold on, let's wait. Cause when me and Mook come back, like, I let Mook tell that story. Like the way Mook going to tell you that story. He gonna give you the play by play, nigga. It was. It was somebody right about to happen.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Somebody fucked up the play.

[Loaded Lux]

I'm gonna let Mook tell us.

[Host]

We gonna let Mook on the story on the show. But it was about to happen. It was talks of that shit. Yeah, and this is what I'm saying. Like. Like that would have led to Luxx vs. Jada Banks vs. Goods or Hitman Holla or somebody. It would have led to.

[Loaded Lux]

It would open up the floodgates. But yeah, how that fucked up.

[Host]

Let Mook tell the story too.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta let Mook telling you he from Harlem.

[Host]

Can't G. A Harlem nigga.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Nigga can't fuck with this Harlem nigga.

[Host]

Sell shit on the stick, man.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's crazy.

[Host]

Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That was the pinnacle at that time. It was like Joe Buttons was battling Hollow. And then Mook. They talking about Mook and Drake.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Who won the Joe Buttons battle.

[Loaded Lux]

Nah, you remember Joe.

[Host]

That was like on tv. I told.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, that was total. But Joe got out of there. He stopped. I don't know if the second or the third round, but the crowd wouldn't. I guess he wanted it to be completely silent. He put the mic down. So they never really finished that battle.

[Host]

Oh, yeah. It was something that happened to him.

[Loaded Lux]

And Hollow. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

So Joe lost that one when they did that.

[Loaded Lux]

It was crazy. Hollow said one of the dopest lines.

[Host]

Hollow. Nice.

[Loaded Lux]

Edie said, I got 112. I want Joe to see. I forgot, bro. My fault. I forgot. I'm messing your setup. I know, I know, my bad. But the way he put that line together. Oh, man, I got 112. It was something he said before that brought it all the way together. I want Joe to see. Cause he did another R B reference for you.

[Host]

What do you think is the thought process when you write your shit like before you get to a battle? How do you. Cause you know, it's hard to remember all that shit. Like I said, Murder with the wrap up. 10 minutes. Y' all niggas is remembering that shit though. They going. They remembering 10, 20 minutes of bars.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Sometimes he can't even remember 16 bars.

[Host]

Word. Yo, play the track under the.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That is real though, because y' all do be remembering like some.

[Host]

Like how the. You.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

It'd be like three, four, five minute verses and it's like three different ones on top of it.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And.

[Loaded Lux]

And room to improv and. And yeah, yeah.

[Host]

To improv. Stop the crowd.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah. Point now that is right.

[Host]

This is the. That'll me up. Cause the be like, bring it back.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Then they could be like, he gotta bring his, you gotta bring his.

[Loaded Lux]

Cause the N wanna say it with you. Very rare.

[Host]

You give me the bring it back, yeah. Shout to all the battle fan rap. To me, the good old days was the crowd to see the crowd. Them rowdy crowds. Niggas don't care. You fuck up, they on you, bro.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Cause now you seeing I'm a big battle rap fan. Banks too. Yeah, Banks. This is what I'm saying. I just wanna see more of it. Maybe somebody step up. Maybe a Eminem or somebody. Or listen, somebody step up and really put that shit out there. Smack is doing his thing.

[Loaded Lux]

Cool.

[Host]

But you gotta Put that shit out there. Smack.

[Loaded Lux]

I'm gonna say this look, and then look. Cause I got Smack gonna come up

[Interviewer/Co-host]

here and let y' all know exactly what's going on.

[Host]

Cause like I said, from having Drake, if Drake would have battled Mook, imagine how that would have been. You would have had a. This guy against Jadakiss or somebody. You know what I mean? You would have had.

[Loaded Lux]

I got a.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

What happened with the Drake and Mook shit?

[Loaded Lux]

I got a. I got a Look, he gonna try to leave out. I tell you, I love it. Brooklyn Mooc all up. No, I got a book coming out too, for the years out as well, too.

[Host]

All right.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

It's fire dope, man.

[Loaded Lux]

I got a transcriber. Shout out to Dr. Emden. Dr. Chris Emden.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

What's the name of the book, man?

[Loaded Lux]

You gonna get this work.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Okay. You gonna get this work. Oh, I like that. Perfect name. Perfect name.

[Host]

Come on. You know that ain't going nowhere.

[Loaded Lux]

Perfect.

[Host]

Yeah, you gonna get this work.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Perfect day.

[Loaded Lux]

And I give people mindsets in. In every battle I was in.

[Host]

Yeah. Cause you say some crazy in your. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Thank you. Thank you. Do you still want to battle?

[Loaded Lux]

If it. If it's right and it makes sense.

[Host]

And.

[Loaded Lux]

And why, I mean, that is.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Because that's the Hollywood shit you was talking about. Yeah, niggas. If it makes sense, all that. I heard you. Yeah, heard you.

[Host]

Money man be like, whoa, whoa. Listen. Smack. Be like, whoa, whoa. Beasley. Beasley. Do the karate and all that. Security guard. If it makes sense.

[Loaded Lux]

Be up there.

[Host]

If it makes sense.

[Loaded Lux]

If it makes sense. Look, be up there. Make it look effortless. You know what I'm saying? People don't know what go into that. My sister Tiff Lux always tell people, yo, listen. Cause I tell a whole team, they know how I work when it come to them spaces. So you gotta think for to whom much is giving, much is expected. People paying their hard earned money.

[Host]

Cause when you used to, like, see King of the Dot battles, and a lot of battles with King of the Dot, they had a big, like. Like arena or some shit. Yeah. So you. I'm doing the head count, like, looking like, pause. If that's a pause, you know, you counting because y' all are filling venues. It was like venues was getting bigger and bigger. Yeah. You know what I'm saying at that point? And that's all I'm saying is.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah. So the money gotta make sense. I get it.

[Loaded Lux]

Trust me.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I get it, man.

[Host]

No, so I mean, for me.

[Loaded Lux]

Cause people paying they hard earned and they coming to see you, it's like, you know, it's like. I never forget Michael Jordan saying that. And that was beautiful. He said, some person buy a ticket to come see me. Maybe they. That's their first time seeing me. Facts feel me. They. You don't know what they.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I seen somebody said that even when he was playing on the Washington Wizards. And I think it was his last game and he was still going hard. And somebody asked him like, yo, it's the last game. Mike, why you going so hard? He said, man, somebody in here paid for that Michael Jordan experience. He said, all they know is they came here thinking they're about to get that Michael Jordan experience.

[Loaded Lux]

Feel me?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

And I'm gonna give you want that word. You gotta respect that.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, I was in London, man. People was coming from Amsterdam, all type of places. Like, yo, listen, I'm here to see you. Like, you better show up.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Gotcha.

[Loaded Lux]

And they sit through all of that to that last battle that you know

[Host]

how summer madness used to be.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

So you're saying that money that they paid to see you, something that need to be going to you, if not at least most of it.

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[Loaded Lux]

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[Loaded Lux]

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[Loaded Lux]

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[Loaded Lux]

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[Loaded Lux]

Look, look, you can't even put a price tag on what God gonna give you, right? Cause look, we talking about something that happened in 2012 that's still trickling all the way into. You know what I'm saying? Like your legacy, you know what I mean? It's gonna follow you, you know, it's gonna proceed you. So that's my thing is I wanna give my all, man. Like that means something to me. So when we gotta do those performances. Nah man, I gotta, I got this moment. Means everything to look, not just that one show, but the culture I'm up there representing. Like if Somebody never saw battle rap before, you know what I'm saying? Somebody go, oh, turn on load of luts or put on, you know what I mean? They go to the. They gotta get that, man. And the love that we put into it is what gives. Makes the culture sustain itself. You know what I mean? And that's the thing where you. What brought you to the well, you feel me? You saw some things that was like, hold up, nigga.

[Host]

Yeah. You gotta think about it. You know how niggas got microwave music? There's microwave battles.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

So with like me talking about this gonna make me go back and watch the calico. Yo. I gotta find that shit just to go back. It's 14 years later and I had to yo have this nigga on the show to ask him what the fuck was the thought process. Yeah. You know what I mean? Nah, nigga come with a pallbearer, a casket, yo. Fucking. You know what I mean? Yo telling you I got that. And then that's what I said. Then it went to. To niggas pulling out paperwork or nigga baby moms cheating. It was just. It got to me that makes the battle illo.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

Nah, yeah. Cause you know what battle rap taught me? What? How to live.

[Host]

Why you say that?

[Loaded Lux]

How to truly live. Look, it's no holds barred up there, man.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

You feel me? Yeah. Anything you done did murder, nigga will find anything. And if he know what he doing, he could take that one section. I've seen it, I've done it. N take a one section. That ain't really. But I could shift the whole perspective on it, you know what I'm saying?

[Host]

Shit might not be true, but n go in on your baby mom.

[Loaded Lux]

You feel me?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

You know what I mean? All type of shit. I mean, we gonna call those out, shout them up, my bro, you know what I'm saying?

[Host]

I don't know how niggas could do is spit on.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

So we gonna call those out. Yeah, yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

We gotta call those out, though. Nah, nah, listen. Because look, what makes it what it is is when you hear based on a true story like, oh, nah, nigga, this happened. That gives, you know, the extra validity, you know what I mean? It brings you more into. You're more compelled. So when somebody going and talking about background checking. Oh, nigga, you said. But n found out you like this. When you go into that, you know what I'm saying?

[Host]

Hold on.

[Loaded Lux]

You're exposing somebody to a whole nother space or area. That. So when I say it Taught me how to live, you know what I mean? And how to be true, you know what I mean? Because, bro, you up there. What you did is on the table from one day to the next, man.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Facts.

[Loaded Lux]

So you get out here and get out of pocket.

[Host]

All the battle rappers are the best rappers, man. Them niggas be like, no, you sold the work. Well, here's the paperwork. He got his man already passing his shits out. Like, it's the most creative. It's. It's as good as wrestling, man. It's better than wrestling. Cause it's bars. But the theatrics, for me, I just miss it. No disrespect to smack or none of them. Cause whatever, they KOD all the battle leagues. Battle leagues in London, Canada. Like, we just. I just wanted to people to see it the way it was.

[Loaded Lux]

Oh, that's a beautiful thing.

[Host]

Cause the Drake and Mook shit was, what, 2020, when that was supposed to happen?

[Loaded Lux]

What year that was? It might have been before that.

[Host]

It might have been 2019. 2020.

[Loaded Lux]

Nah. Yeah, but 20 Iceman. Yeah, between 2016, probably, or 2015. 2016.

[Host]

2014. Oh, yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

See?

[Host]

All right, cool.

[Loaded Lux]

Look at that shit.

[Host]

That felt like it was just yesterday, you know what I'm saying? Like, I remember that. And I was like, damn. I was like, yo, these niggas about to battle Drake about to battle this nigga. Cause Drake was one of the biggest fans of battle rap everywhere.

[Loaded Lux]

Hell, yeah. N. Look, one thing I could say about.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Let's make battle rap great again.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. Nah, it's the performances, man. And look, even now, right? We was just talking about the Joey Badass joint.

[Host]

Yeah. Shout out to Joey Badass. Joey Badass. Love battle rap. Come on, everybody.

[Loaded Lux]

Love battle rap.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Joey Badass and Luck got a joint

[Loaded Lux]

like me and Daylight was supposed to. That's how that whole thing went on. But, like, it's certain battles that. That demand certain attention to where even the players, the artists understand the magnitude of this matchup. So they rise to different occasions. Like, you know what I mean? It's like even like.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Like, Daylight used to do a lot of crazy shit, right?

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. But he know when it's time. Like, nigga, cut it out. Like, this is one of them.

[Host]

Daylight is a technician.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, I could say that. Like every. Like those. That. That's them dudes. Like, how we do it. We know when it's. Oh, this one ain't for play. Play. This is where. Nah,

[Host]

I could describe. Daylight's the type of nigga that's gonna Say some shit like outta space.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, he gonna. I don't know what he gonna do.

[Host]

He gonna go Lux. Luxx is charismatic. Like typical Harlem confidence.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

We gonna get this work indeed crap. Oh, those are classic. Mook is more. He's a. He got the Harlem and shit in him, but he's like more aggressive. Bars.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Like, you know you gonna get that pain, but it's not coming as smoother as this guy. It ain't gonna Mook you, but he gonna kill you. Cause everybody Harlem had the spitters, you know what I mean? Jersey, you know, you had a lot of Jersey niggas. That was nice too, you know, like it just from every barrel there was somebody. Holla the dawn. DNA. Yeah, yeah, but come on, man. See what I'm saying?

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, that was that thing.

[Host]

Come on, man.

[Loaded Lux]

That

[Host]

man.

[Loaded Lux]

No, it was a move. And look, the energy that day.

[Host]

Look at that crowd.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, the energy that day.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I got like a hundred thousand a piece that day, right?

[Loaded Lux]

Hell no. What the.

[Host]

See that?

[Loaded Lux]

That's the.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's the problem. That was the problem.

[Host]

That's the problem. That was the problem.

[Loaded Lux]

Damn.

[Host]

Look at that crowd. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That.

[Host]

And that's a no mercy crowd pack to.

[Loaded Lux]

To. To capacity in that.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's no Mercy vs. Mo.

[Loaded Lux]

No. This is Calico.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Damn. Y at least got 50. You got 50k out there.

[Loaded Lux]

What we don't we a talk about the numbers. Let's just say this though. Sometimes what it means to do. But look, the craftsmanship, it don't matter.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

This last forever.

[Loaded Lux]

You feel me?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

This is a different kind of blessing. That made more money money off that than what they got paid a. That made so much money just because of this. So it's like.

[Loaded Lux]

That's what I mean.

[Host]

Real talk.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I got you. I got you.

[Loaded Lux]

That's why I got you. I believe in so many different forms.

[Host]

Yes, yes.

[Loaded Lux]

That's why you got them.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Blessings come in so many different forms, man. That's it.

[Loaded Lux]

I got you. I was totally. Creativity at that point. It was just like, all right. Smack. It wasn't even about that. It was.

[Host]

Nigga had Calico on the obituary. Nigga crazy.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah. And look, I'm so.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Calico. Calico still battling.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Okay.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, shout out to Calico. He got Winter Madness.

[Host]

Fuck with Calico too.

[Loaded Lux]

So Calico. Yeah, Calico got a dope ass setup, man. He do Winter Madness in Detroit. Like that shit.

[Host]

So no, Summer, man. They still do Summer Madness.

[Loaded Lux]

No, but he got Winter Madness.

[Host]

Oh, we gotta check that out.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, okay. Gotta tap in facts.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Host]

This is what we.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, we gotta retune in, like, you know what I'm saying? Everything was going on. Yeah. All this shit was crazy. Like, doing all of this.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's the fake Ms. Casket right there.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, but like this. Yo, Myrtle, we really. The dude who's showing us everything. He ain't know nothing. He didn't know what was going on. We really went there to look at caskets. And we talking and having dialogue with him about, yeah, we gotta ship the body to New York. We need it on this date. Like, we walked the whole thing. Like, this is what, you know, showmanship. That was crazy. You know, give it the 247 type of shit.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Instagram wasn't out back then, right?

[Host]

No, nah, nah.

[Loaded Lux]

It might have just been getting popping or some shit, like.

[Host]

Yeah, nah, it was. Everything was pretty much on YouTube.

[Loaded Lux]

Yep, yep. That's what's going on.

[Host]

That was like my. Honestly.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, See, this is what I'm saying. Yeah, we was having fun.

[Host]

This was. Honestly, the battle rap was kind of my introduction to YouTube, when I really think about it. That's what I just learned to today, cuz I was on. I really was.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Y' all can see this guy, like, was really into his battle rap stuff.

[Host]

No, this. Yo, Banks too. Other rappers, Summer Madness, Cipher.

[Loaded Lux]

Or a battle with Banks. Who? I was going to ask you that too. Like. Like out in Queens, like, just seeing Banks get busy.

[Host]

Banks used to destroy. Pause. You would say, Banks used to.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

No, that was good. That was cool.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, we know. He is destroy niggas.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Banks.

[Host]

Banks was a nigga that was like.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Maybe not.

[Host]

Maybe he come like. Cause you gotta remember, we was hustling when Lost Boys dropped. So when Freaky Todd them niggas recipes. Freaky Todd niggas was like, with the cracks. So niggas used to go to my man fat shy crib. We used to rap over there. So I kind of found. Discovered Banks. Cause Banks had balls. Like, he was. He was like 15. Talking about he got the razor blade and the Trapper Keeper and all this shit. I'm like, oh, shit. So 50 was like, oh, shit. Like, he just one of them niggas that sit. This is why I feel like niggas can't fuck with him. Cause he'll sit in the crib and just write, come on, Come on. Like, all day. Like he's one of them niggas. I'm not saying fab is not nice.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I could see him how we get back to that?

[Host]

No, no, no, no.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

This guy is crazy, son. Yo, my man. Yo, my man, my man.

[Host]

Nah, what I'm saying is Fab is type of dope outfit. He gonna get liquor in the studio, light up, he gonna catch the vibe, and he out. Banks, the type of ain't leaving.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

This guy's crazy.

[Loaded Lux]

That's what I'm saying.

[Host]

Bank say anything about nothing but the bars.

[Loaded Lux]

This guy's crazy. Listen, this is always ain't how the Fab and Bank situation come up. Even if they don't never battle. I will say this, and I gotta say this. I appreciate. I promise you I appreciate y' all brothers, B. Everything y' all did in hip hop, man.

[Host]

I appreciate both of y', all, too, man.

[Loaded Lux]

Like, y' all the penmanship, y'.

[Bethenny Frankel]

All.

[Loaded Lux]

Y' all are part of the DNA, man. As far as all. All of us that get busy, that's about that penmanship that really know what it is as a New Yorker, you know what I'm saying? Got my next color's on as a New Yorker. Thank you, brothers, man, y' all save lyricism in ways that y' all have no clue. Them verses, them mixtape verses will live forever. Like, come on. In the minds of those that get busy.

[Host]

This is all bullshit. You saying.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yo, man, listen.

[Loaded Lux]

No, I really mean that.

[Host]

This guy's a killer, man. Of course.

[Loaded Lux]

But that's how I got nice, though. It's like, you gotta be inspired. You gotta hear niggas.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

We ain't lying about that. We ain't lying.

[Loaded Lux]

I lied. Like, them niggas, man. Come on, y' all niggas know y'. All. Y' all mixtape run was crazy.

[Host]

I'm just saying right now, a lot of rappers. I think if, like, me murder banks 50, if we got in the studio and, like, we went song for song for song, we would destroy niggas. Like, right now, I know, like, Banks versus Fab. Banks got. I hear his record. He got heaters. Like, right now, he got shit that will shut a lot of niggas up.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, we just need to do the

[Host]

Fab Shut a Lot of bank mix. Shut up. All you critics.

[Loaded Lux]

They should just do the mix.

[Host]

No. And I'm not. Yo, I'm not glazing. That's what they call a glazing now.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

I heard the records. Know what I mean? Fab would kind of be under pressure if Banks started dropping those records, bro. I'm gonna keep it real. He would try to rush him. Like, he's the Nigga that he got him. He probably got him, but he definitely don't got what Banks got. You too, Murder. Murder got some shit, too. He just waiting for niggas to pop shit like Fifth.

[Loaded Lux]

He don't be.

[Host]

Can't check, right? I'm just letting this notice be the funny shit.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's crazy.

[Host]

Cause, like, you know, a lot of niggas, they be like, yo, Fif, you gotta rap again. Cause 5th will troll you today.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

He trolling you from the jet, though, right? In the check. So he ain't thinking about balls. And so when a nigga come at him with the balls, Fifth be like, all right, fuck it. I'll write again, fuck it. Whatever. You know what I'm saying? But if niggas. If niggas was the lock in, y'

[Loaded Lux]

all would have the city on fire.

[Host]

Let's think about it.

[Loaded Lux]

G Unit mixtape right now. New.

[Host]

Think about, think about, think about. Let's. Let's talk about the mix. Like, let's talk about the mixtapes with G Unit. We are always going to be the bad guys. Nobody likes us, fine. It's cool. We live like that. He had to wrap up. Nobody ever liked him. You know what I'm saying?

[Loaded Lux]

Nah.

[Host]

The rap folks, Chris Light, everybody, he was with Chris Lightyes, Chris Lighting. But we never got along with nobody. And then N. Always had an excuse for G Unit. Cause N. S hate us so much. We were so successful. Cereal, socks, sneakers. These niggas, you know, get the money. So N. Started hating us so much. Like, well, they're not outside. We had Hip Hop Police hating us. No G Unit. No dipset. Swear to God. N. I used to go to the club. No G Unit. Yo, get outta here. Swear to God. Nah. Hip Hop Police used to follow us around. We was number one. We was the bad boys of the game. We was number one on their list. Hip Hop Police was heavy. You had Superman. Tall, Tall White Boy. We could make a movie on them. Tall White Boy, grab you from your belt. I just want the guns. Knew everybody's name. Them knew everybody's name. Super Feds. Know what I mean? You had Curly Top. Remember you screaming on Pete Diddy in front of the club? Okay, who you are, Curly Top? You don't remember Curly?

[Loaded Lux]

Nah.

[Host]

Curly Pop, man. Them. We went to the club one night, four different cars. They pulled over everybody's car. Separate. Everybody went separate ways. Somebody told me, yo, they watching y' all with binoculars from there. Hip Hop Police. So we got banned. So they be like, yo, why G Unit was never in the clubs. N fine, yo. Hip hop police didn't want us in the clubs. Them niggas used to call up promoters and be like, yo, dub it, G unit. Dub it. 50. Yeah. Yo. Nah, dub it.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

It was a little black.

[Host]

So we was the bad guys of the game.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Little black books they used to have.

[Host]

And the thing with the game is we already know how the rap game is. Stand next to the fire. I heard Chris Lighty and a lot of people say that thing before. Rest in peace, Chris Lighty is business. Stand next to the fire. Diddy hot. I'mma stand over here. 50 hot. I'mma stand over here. We French, and everybody was around us. French is a smart nigga. Acorn hot. You went from Acorn. You know, Callous hot.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Acorn is acorn, man.

[Host]

Acorn. Acorn.

[Loaded Lux]

I thought he was funny.

[Host]

Like, I don't know what's going on. My fault, you know what I'm saying? But French was around us. G Unit hot. Stand next to the fire. P Diddy hot. Stand next to the fire. Oh, them over there hot. Stand next to the fire. Who hot? Kanye hot got. Stand next to the fire. G Unit. Oh, Khaled. Remember when Khaled dropped? Khaled hot. Everybody was standing next to that fire. Stand next to the fire. You gotta think niggas wasn't fucking with us. There was no fire to stand next to. Fab could do that. Other niggas could do that. There was no fire. There was no Kumbaya. There was no fire. Banks didn't have that. Yo, Fab had that. Fab can stand next to any fire. Did he? Hot. Stand next to the fire.

[Loaded Lux]

I feel you.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yo, how we get back to that, sir?

[Host]

50 hot. Look, 50 hot. Go on tour with 50. Stand next to the fire. Jay Z. Oh, 50 hot. First album. I'll put him on tour. Stand next to the fire. Seagull. Y' all better watch out. Stand next to the fire. Gayo never had no fire. There was no fire to stand next to. Except for 50 banks and around. There was no fire, yo, which had a motherfucker. So you gotta think that's the friendships advantage. Cause the game is about standing next to the fire, too.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

Murder.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Murder.

[Host]

Standing next to the fire.

[Loaded Lux]

Standing next to the fire.

[Host]

Future. Stand next to the fire. Murder.

[Loaded Lux]

But if y' all did a G mixtape right now, this summer, that hit, that have hit, that would hit.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I like how that sound.

[Host]

Banks. 50. Yeah, that's fire. Murder got records. I don't rap no more. Murder got Records get paid. Empire, he getting good money.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Shout out to Empire, shout out to G, shout out to Nema. You know the vibes. The whole crew over there. Bobby Empire, Empire. The truth.

[Loaded Lux]

You did. Nah, that. Yo, your rap, the wrap ups. I'm saying I'm glad you. You rapped. You went out. You went out the way you supposed to went out. But I definitely gotta give you.

[Host]

But we can't get nobody on the show. Cuz of that, though. He dissed everybody.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

What the.

[Loaded Lux]

If a mad at that. She was so creative. She was so fired.

[Host]

I done seen Jermaine Dupree tell me. Yo, don't put me in that. When I seen Reverend Jermaine Dupree, Reverend Run. Reverend Run said, yo, bro, don't ever put me in that, man.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

That's my God too.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, that was just so. It just was so dope though, man. The way the was, cuz he. It was fire too. It was funny, but it was fire.

[Host]

I think he should just skip a year. One year though, because we got the podcast.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I might skip it this year. Man, I ain't gonna even hold you.

[Host]

I might ruffle too many feathers. Jermaine Dupree won them. Everybody want to get the.

[Loaded Lux]

But this how. This how dope it is though.

[Host]

Trick Daddy wanted to kill him.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Trick Daddy, we need. Trick Daddy. We need you on the show too, man.

[Host]

What's the pastor dude that took all the money. He wanted to fight him, remember? What's that?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

What's free? The pastor, man. The Brooklyn pastor.

[Host]

I a go look, I a go to his names. I Casanova 50 all y went to his church. I ain't go to his church.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Damn.

[Loaded Lux]

Why you.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

We did go to his church. We didn't know what was going on before.

[Loaded Lux]

Y' all went to his church?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, he went to his church. Yeah, he went to his church.

[Host]

I ain't go to his church. They didn't know what's going on. 50 said he was robbing God's people.

[Loaded Lux]

They saying that that jusi skit was about him. Did you.

[Host]

He said when. I know. He said when he started showing his suits and all in his closet, I was like, this guy's crazy Phantom playing Biggie. He was. You don't remember that pass?

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, the had the outfits, man. Didn't he have like Rolls Roy Su?

[Host]

Yeah, he had the Rolls Royce. He was showing Gucci suits. You know what's going on?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, he bugged out once.

[Host]

I saw that Want to fight murder. I was like, yeah, this is a different kind of. When you See the Gucci suits?

[Loaded Lux]

No, he didn't.

[Host]

Yeah, he was doing the juice Ski early.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

He was doing the juice, man. Free to pastor, man. Got like nine years or something. Free to pass.

[Host]

And then you remember robbed the church that time. I don't know if he owed bread or whatever. Oh, in the church with hammers. Oh, that was murder, man. That was murder.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I can't fuck murder.

[Host]

And Casanova was in that nigga church this, yo.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Oh, yo, Free casting over to it, man.

[Loaded Lux]

Yo, Free cast.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

We was in his church.

[Host]

That nigga was robbing G N. Yo, hold on.

[Loaded Lux]

That. That happened in Brooklyn.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, it happened in Brooklyn. It happened in Brooklyn, man.

[Host]

I think murder put him in the wrap up. He wanted to fight him.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Yeah, he did.

[Host]

Never heard a pastor pull him out. Out of everybody asked to call you out. It's time to chill. No, stop.

[Loaded Lux]

Oh, my God. Yo, what's wrong with this nigga? Yo, y' all son knows Free to pass, yo.

[Host]

Free to pass. Can we talk about Shivers Row with Rain House?

[Loaded Lux]

Oh, Strivers row. Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Excuse me.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, no Strivers Row. So look, it's.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

It's what you call the Yay Striver House.

[Host]

But Stop smoking. Shout to the unit. Dispo. Go ahead. I'm gonna stop smoking.

[Loaded Lux]

Nah, no Strivers Road. It's a real concise project. It's a Volt project. Like, we did it a while back and it just. We didn't find the right time to shout to. Rain.

[Host]

Rain is nice too.

[Loaded Lux]

Rain. Rain dope.

[Host]

He's one of them. You can make some records.

[Loaded Lux]

He. Yo, he definitely. Yeah, just. It's jazz infused. It's just a. It's like a soundtrack to the times that was going on in. And what was so beautiful about the project, though? Me and Rain, when we was building it, we were definitely in transformative spaces. Let me say we was challenging each other creatively, right? Or how we was living, you know, the conduct and how we was like, just moving about. We infused that. Like, we. We went off that energy and everything we did with each record as we was building it, it's just, bro. Creatively. What? What? How we was moving, how we was living, where it was taking the project, man. Yo, you ever had some shit that, you know, it's just. It's just happened. It feel like. Like something else is surrounding it. Like everything was just hitting aura behind it.

[Host]

I know how you are, man. You aura guys very, very much so. So I know it's one of them. Yeah, but you got to think too much of something, don't make it exclusive no more.

[Loaded Lux]

So.

[Host]

So it's a lot of microwave music, so niggas are looking for something different. Like Alchemist doing something with Erykah Badu. I want to check that out. I would love to see you. You produced with if you had an Alchemist track. You. You and Rain. I'm gonna check with that.

[Loaded Lux]

Oh, man.

[Host]

I know you said there's a project

[Interviewer/Co-host]

with Moot coming too.

[Host]

I'm gonna check with that because it's like with music now. It's like, all right, I listen to Drake all for like the last two weeks. What's next? And then sometimes too much or something.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe that.

[Host]

It's like sneakers or clothes. Like a lot of brands be big and then they flood the market.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, like they'll. Oh, that's what's working right now.

[Host]

Yeah. Something's exclusive and different. You checking for that. So I know if you and Rain do something, I'm definitely gonna check for that.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. Cause it's not like we trying to mainstream the price. Definitely not one of those. This shit was totally about, yo, that's the vibe.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Feel good.

[Host]

Let's just go.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Let's just give it to who rocking with us.

[Host]

You know what's crazy? I look at things totally different. I think it's all about having a cult following. So before it's like, what kind of artist would you sign? Would you sign this artist that fills arenas or this artist that's doing House of Blues? And I said, they're both artists. I used to think it's just, you know, of course, arenas, you're gonna make more money. But having a cult following of fans, that ain't going nowhere.

[Loaded Lux]

Yep.

[Host]

So you got guys like, Lucky he dropped the same thing. He's number four. But my kids love him. He has. He has a fan base. The Don Oliver dude, right?

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, yeah, Don Oliver.

[Host]

He's, you know, in New York City. He just. He sold out usbs, Jersey, and Madison Square Garden. He has a cult following.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Host]

Nah, I think that's what it's more about is building a cult following.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Host]

And you have that.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. And that's why, you know, we always gave him the sound. You know what I'm saying? So that's why after a lot of battles, I'll drop a project just to remind people, Listen the conversations. Just imagine these conversations, these thought provoking conversations with good vibes, good music behind it. And that's pretty much what the project was. It was just really giving you substance. The world is surface, the Substance is where you want to go with it in terms of just everyday life. Right? People, sometimes you feel like this, you feel like that. But this right here, there's some thought provoking shit.

[Host]

I ain't gonna hold you. And then a project with Mook is some flashy Harlem shit.

[Loaded Lux]

Or this. That's that. Nah, I'm gonna say this. That thing with murders. That's.

[Host]

Yeah, I gotta hear that one.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. That's some grit, man.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Okay, okay.

[Host]

You gotta throw Fergie, Baby Chuck Cash on there. Neath Bucks. Yo, who else you liking?

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Bucks?

[Loaded Lux]

I like everybody you just named. True story.

[Host]

But anybody else?

[Loaded Lux]

I don't know shit. You need to. Anthony King. Shout out to Anthony King.

[Host]

Check him out.

[Loaded Lux]

He getting his R and B space. He's fire. Who else? You should be. Shit. You need to. My God. What's my. Chase. Chase Belly. Oh, Chase. What's your shit? Chase? Chase gonna kill me right now. He gonna kill me right now. Chase Belly, he got a joint with Max, too. With. He just got a drink with. I think Bigel in French.

[Host]

Okay.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Too. Okay, okay.

[Loaded Lux]

Chase. Damn. I forgot how you say. Yo, you gotta check for chase. You got a 4G finesse. Yeah. My young boy. Kels, you gotta check him. Nah, I'mma. I'm. I gotta send you some stuff.

[Host]

Yeah, send me some stuff.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I'm always looking facts. Facts.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Loaded Lux]

And I got. Yeah.

[Host]

Some.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah, you see it? Yup, that's it.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

Chase Belly.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah.

[Host]

Better dog since we in Harlem. I'm going with. I'm gonna go with Fergie, baby. My artist of the week. Harlem.

[Loaded Lux]

Okay, okay. Dope, dope, dope.

[Host]

I'm going. Who you going with? Harlem. From Harlem right now.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

From Harlem.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I'm not up on the young guys right now. But you know who I'm gonna go with, though?

[Host]

Chase Belly.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I'm gonna go with.

[Host]

Go with Chase Belly.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

You know what? I'll go with Chase Belly.

[Host]

He got a song with Max being French right now. Let's go with Chase Belly. Who's your artist?

[Loaded Lux]

Artist of the week with me.

[Host]

Yeah. It could be any. It don't have to be from Harlem. We just went Harlem.

[Loaded Lux]

Oh, that's what y' all did. Yeah. Shit. I ain't gonna front right now. I ain't. I've been listening to this Driver's Road, bro. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Host]

All right?

[Loaded Lux]

And that shit sound crazy.

[Host]

Shout to you and rain. Yeah. All this of the week.

[Loaded Lux]

Yeah. I'm being.

[Host]

When that's dropping. Tell them when it's dropping on the 9th. June 9th. All right, cool.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

June 9th, June 9th.

[Host]

Make sure y' all get that. Shout to my man.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

I gotta go ahead.

[Host]

This Chase Beverly record Loaded Lux. Shout to the whole battle rap world. Yeah, we here to put y' all on this platform. I love battle rap. I got a school murder. I got a refresh his memory. Shout to Banks. Banks know battle rap. And we got one of the top five best battle raps ever.

[Loaded Lux]

Blessed to be in y' all gone thoughts.

[Host]

You know how Harlem do you already know real report. Make sure y' all like share. Subscribe, make some more noise for Loaded Lux. We out.

[Interviewer/Co-host]

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