The Real Report - Mobb Deep's Havoc on remembering Prodigy, 2Pac Beef, Jay-Z at Summer Jam & Almost Signing to Puff & G-Unit

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Podcast Summary: "Joe and Jada" – The Real Report

Episode: Mobb Deep's Havoc on remembering Prodigy, 2Pac Beef, Jay-Z at Summer Jam & Almost Signing to Puff & G-Unit
Release Date: May 19, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Real Report" features an in-depth, candid conversation with Havoc of Mobb Deep, joined by hosts Fat Joe, Jadakiss, and Uncle Murda (aka L Jelly). The crew goes through the history of Mobb Deep, reflects on the legacy of Prodigy, and dives headfirst into iconic moments and beefs that defined east coast hip-hop culture—unfiltered, unguarded, and with plenty of humor and nostalgia. Topics range from world tours, legendary club nights, the beef with 2Pac, history with Jay-Z, fashion trends, stories of wild times on tour, and the realities of loss and transition after Prodigy’s passing. The raw, freewheeling conversation is punctuated with memorable stories, playful banter, and real hip-hop insights.

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Key Topics & Discussion Breakdown

1. Mobb Deep’s Legacy, International Tours, and the Infinite Album

• Legends Reunite: The hosts pay respect to Mobb Deep, ranking them among the top hip-hop groups from NYC, and to Prodigy (RIP), with Havoc representing.

  • "Prodigy…one of the best rappers from New York City, definitely in the top five lyricists, Mobb Deep, top five group." – Interviewer (03:22)

• Recent 40-Country Tour: Havoc discusses the massive global tour celebrating the release of the Infinite album and enduring fan love worldwide, even for the group’s new material.

  • "We were celebrating the Infinite album…The feedback was crazy, man, for real." – Havoc (03:55)

• Tour Stories: Locations spanned Germany, Bulgaria, Prague, Paris, UK, Ireland, Sweden, Amsterdam, Turkey, showing the group’s international impact (05:16).

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2. Early Mobb Deep Days & The Power of "Shook Ones"

• Origins: Havoc details meeting Prodigy in high school—Prodigy already “a fly nigga…even back in high school” (11:47).

• The Making of "Shook Ones":

  • Originated in Havoc’s mom’s apartment in Queensbridge (12:44).
  • “Part 2” became the classic club and street anthem, created after an initial version (13:44).
  • Quote: "Making Shook Ones…it's like if you playing in the NBA and you trying to get that chip" – Havoc (14:05)

• Club Impact: The hosts recall the chaotic energy when "Shook Ones" dropped at iconic NYC clubs, esp. The Tunnel—"Bloodsport music" (10:03).

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3. Stories from the Era: Rivalries, Club Brawls, and the Queensbridge Mentality

• Drinking Tales & Growing Out of Wildness:

  • Havoc discusses sobriety, wild tour stories from the “anger management” days, and how time changes perspectives (06:04, 06:12).
  • "When you get older, you got to focus...that shit don't be hitting like it was when you in your 20s or 30s" – Havoc (06:12)

• Classic NYC Stories:

  • Club tales, fights with Lost Boys, classic New York egos (20:30–25:25).
  • The relationships and rivalries between different NYC housing projects and crews: "You knew that was a little competition ego" – Havoc (21:17).

• The Tunnel: Havoc remembers Chris Lighty letting Mobb Deep in with "shit," emphasizing the real danger and uniqueness of the spot (26:18).

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4. Beefs with 2Pac & Jay-Z and Mobb Deep’s Place in Hip-Hop Warfare

• Tupac & The East/West Beef:

  • Making “LA, LA” in response to events with Snoop and the larger East/West feud (15:58).
  • Tupac’s disses (esp. the sickle-cell line) and how Mobb Deep handled the conflict at a young age:
    • "You, like 19...that shit is, like, fun to you...you like? Word. Come on, fuck it." – Havoc (17:06)
    • Never met Tupac except once as kids at an industry event (17:50).

• Jay-Z Beef & The Summer Jam Incident:

  • The fallout from not being credited for "LA, LA" and Prodigy's response to Jay-Z saying "New York been soft since Snoop kicked the building" (28:24).
  • The Summer Jam screen incident and origins of that infamous Prodigy dance photo (31:28).
    • "That was the first time a n really trolled some shit like that" – Interviewer (31:28)
    • The story of how Jay-Z got the photo: “Somebody that went to Prodigy’s grandmother dance school was really tight with that circle” – Havoc (32:32).

• Hip-Hop As Competition:

  • "Hip hop is a contact sport. Pause." – Havoc (26:52)
  • Hosts reflect on how the best test themselves against the best: “If the best niggas in the game—if Tupac and Jay Z get at you, what that mean? ... You the best.” – Interviewer (34:40)

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5. Production Genius, Consistency, and Mobb Deep’s Iconic Sound

• Consistency & Process:

  • Havoc details inspiration from Queensbridge, obsession with technology, and upgrading from his early equipment to the legendary MPC (38:01–39:41).

• Beat-Making Stories:

  • The bounciness of “Shook Ones Part 2.”
  • “Quiet Storm” built by slowing down “White Lines” by Sugarhill Gang (40:34).
    • “I ran out of samples…slowed this shit down. And then I got the Triton keyboard and just did some keys on it.” – Havoc (40:39)
  • Sample selections from Scarface, The Godfather—original, cinematic moods.

• On Prodigy’s Origin & Relationship with Nas:

  • Prodigy was from Long Island (LeFrak), but absorbed Queensbridge culture (41:33).
  • Havoc and Nas: childhood friends who later collaborated after making it in rap (42:08).

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6. “What If” Scenarios & The Business of Hip-Hop

• Almost Signing to Puff Daddy/Bad Boy:

  • Mobb Deep considered signing to Puff but the "deal wasn’t right," and their style would never match the shiny suit era (56:50–59:16).
    • "I don't think we would have listened to him…we would have had our Timbs on. We wouldn't have been able to come back to QB." – Havoc (58:51, 60:32)

• G-Unit Era:

  • Signing with 50 Cent, what it meant for the brand, and wild moments—the “twin Porsches,” bulletproof trucks, touring, and learning to drive stick (64:26, 65:16).
  • The anger management tour with 50 and Eminem’s legendary scale (67:26).
    • Havoc recounts falling through the stage at Detroit Lions Stadium: "That was scary. I could have died, son." – Havoc (68:11)

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7. Loss, Legacy, and The Future of Mobb Deep

• Without Prodigy:

  • Life, music, and loss after Prodigy’s passing. The emotional weight, brotherhood, and efforts to carry on ("It's like night and day…losing, it's like losing my brother.") – Havoc (46:16).
  • Prodigy’s posthumous impact: Havoc working with his unreleased verses feels like “a puzzle…a challenge” (71:06).

• Another Mobb Deep Album?:

  • Hope for a new project using Prodigy's extensive vault, perhaps by year’s end (72:14).

• Tributes:

  • Shoutouts to Prodigy’s family and recognition for his grandmother, who helped buy the original equipment (72:36–73:02).

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8. Fashion, New York Waves, and Hip-Hop Culture

• Fashion Icons:

  • Mobb Deep’s infamous army jackets, Timbs, real QB style: “Army jacket with the line and the green shit—that’s all we was that… straight grimy, but fly.” – Interviewer (61:20).

• Fashion Debates:

  • Heavy D and The Fat Boys as early plus-size fashion icons, with Run DMC setting the Adidas wave (62:06–63:16).

• Club & Party Culture:

  • The evolution of New York’s party violence, nostalgia for a raw but unified hip-hop culture (63:11–63:59).

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9. The State of Hip-Hop & Final Reflections

• Today’s Rap Game:

  • Havoc’s view: not all new music hits, but he's not mad—technology changes everything, and there’s still quality if you look for it (69:51–70:41).

• Closing:

  • Encourages listeners to check out the Infinite album and leaves open the door for Mobb Deep’s continual influence, with a passionate thanks to fans and shoutouts to Prodigy’s family.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "When you get older, you got to focus…that shit don't be hitting like it was when you in your 20s or 30s." – Havoc (06:12)
• "You, like 19...that shit is, like, fun to you…Come on, fuck it." – Havoc on the Tupac beef (17:06)
• "Hip hop is a contact sport. Pause." – Havoc (26:52)
• "I don't think we would have listened to him…we would have had our Timbs on. We wouldn't have been able to come back to QB." – Havoc on possibly signing to Puff (58:51, 60:32)
• On the relentless street energy in the 90s club scene:
  "When Shook Ones came out, you knew it was gonna be like a fight or a shootout…It was like bloodsport music." – Interviewer (10:03)
• On not being credited for LA, LA:
  "How could he say that if we made LA LA?" – Havoc (28:51)
• About Prodigy's legacy and vault:
  "He wrote like Tupac, man. He got like ten thousand songs in the book." – Interviewer (71:19)

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Noteworthy Timestamps

• 03:55 – Havoc discusses the international Infinite album tour
• 10:47 – The street and club impact of "Shook Ones"
• 12:44 – Creation of "Shook Ones" in Havoc's mom's apartment
• 17:06 – The real mindset during the 2Pac beef
• 26:18 – The danger and unique stories of The Tunnel club
• 28:24 – The real story behind the Jay-Z / Mobb Deep beef
• 31:28 – Jay-Z using Prodigy's photo on the Summer Jam screen
• 39:41 – Havoc discusses his production process and the legendary MPC
• 40:34 – The making of "Quiet Storm"
• 46:16 – Coping with the loss of Prodigy
• 56:50 – Mobb Deep nearly signing to Puff Daddy
• 64:26 – Wild times on the G-Unit/Anger Management tour
• 68:11 – Havoc recalls falling through the stadium stage
• 70:41 – Havoc reflects on today’s hip-hop culture
• 71:04 – Discussing the possibility of a new posthumous Mobb Deep album

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Conclusion

This episode is a masterclass in hip-hop storytelling, straight from one of New York's most influential voices. Full of humor, realness, and deep emotion, Havoc opens up about the triumphs, tensions, and transitions of Mobb Deep and East Coast hip-hop. It's essential listening—and this summary is your key to the episode’s best stories, rivalries, wisdom, and celebration of the Mobb’s legacy.

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[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

So if you say Bob Deep, that's pause, too?

[Interviewer / Host]

Nah, Mob deep is cool, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Okay. All right.

[Interviewer / Host]

No, it's not a force.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Is that thinking about that one? Okay.

[Interviewer / Host]

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[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yo, it's the boy Uncle Murder, AKA L Jelly.

[Interviewer / Host]

Right now we got the top five Dead alive rap group from New York City, Mobb Deep and Rest In Peace, Prodigy. And we got the top five best producer from New York City in this mother. Make some noise and have it. Yeah, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Interviewer / Host]

Thank you, man. Thank you. Appreciate you, man.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Thanks for coming through. Have you already, boy?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Thanks for having me Resting.

[Interviewer / Host]

Rest in peace. Prodigy always. Mob Deep never dies. Shout the whole Prodigy family. Condolences to Prodigy, you know what I mean? One of the best rappers from New York City, definitely in the top five. Lyricist, Mobb Deep, top five group, you know what I'm saying? We got havoc here. We gonna get right into it, man. How was overseas? Because y' all gotta understand Mobb Deep never dies. You understand? Mobb Deep never dies. I told him to call out the next album that Mobb Deep never dies. My man just came off of 40. What was it? 40. 40 country tour. Talk about the tour, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Some shit like that. Now the tour is crazy. We were celebrating the the Infinite album, you know what I'm saying? We just put that out definitely in November. So it was only right that we went out represent from all Deep. Represent for Prodigy, definitely. You know what I'm saying? And the feedback was crazy, man. Like, for real. For real.

[Interviewer / Host]

Like, I mean, because how many years is now? I mean, Mob Deep was out before G Unit, before Uncle Murder, before a lot of Mother.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

True. But you know what, though? Like, it don't necessarily mean that. That don't necessarily mean that if you make a new album, that niggas are gonna fuck with it. Not even in Europe, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so if you going out there and they singing the choruses with you on some new songs, like. Cause, you know, I'm used to going out there, you know, singing Survival Shook ones and all of that. You know what I mean? And then sometimes you might do a new joint and they just be like this, you know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Looking at you like, what the fuck is this?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Or because they don't know the song.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It's not like.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It's not like they don't like it, but it's just that they don't know it. But they was vibing with us, so, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to all the countries in

[Interviewer / Host]

Europe and where you were. You went to. I remember you was in Germany. Shout out to Storm. Shout out to M D. I think Noy was with you. Y' all was in Germany. I think y' all Was in Stard. Name some of the places you went. Tell them you Passport gang, too, man. M Deep is.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I need one of those chains.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Passport, Passport game.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I need one of them chains, man. We was in Stuttgart. We was in Bulgaria. We was in Prague, you know, of course, Germany, Paris, uk, Ireland, Sweden, Amsterdam.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You was on the run for real.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Turkey shit. I mean, you know, the list goes. The list goes on.

[Interviewer / Host]

That's why I say murder. Mobb Deep never dies. I remember being on tour and. And when 51st signed, mob deep in mop. And I remember the first day, he was like, what you think? And I was like, nah, these are two classic groups in hip hop culture. What was that like for you when y' all had the twin Porsches acting a fool? We on anger management tour. Cause I know you don't drink no more. You used to get wild off the licks, though. I know.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, I was crazy.

[Interviewer / Host]

Congratulations. How long you been sober for now?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I mean, you know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

It's been a while.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I would say, like three years.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Three. Congratulations on that.

[Interviewer / Host]

Congratulations.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Thank you.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Thank you.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Oh, well, you stop drinking, though, man. The fuck.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Because you know why? You know, when you get older, you got to focus, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, that shit don't be hitting like it was when you in your 20s or your 30s. That should take, like, five days to wear off, you know what I'm saying? I'll be stuck to the bed, like, for, like, four days, and I got shit to do.

[Interviewer / Host]

But when we.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

When we first got something, that time

[Interviewer / Host]

on anger management, when you stood up on the pool table, like, fuck that, man. It's my shit, nigga. Yo, fuck all y'. All. Look, I swear to God, it's worth of my father. Look, I took your shit. Yo. Look, he on a pool table, y'. All. Cause when he get drunk, he get violent. You know what I'm saying? Y' all niggas, man.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Oh, that's y' all niggas stop drinking. Okay?

[Interviewer / Host]

Yo, then my son just passed out, and the security had him like a baby.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Right?

[Interviewer / Host]

Right. I had him like this. I never forgot that on tour. One time, I had a drink in my hand. I swear to God. Yo, I went to fight. Half that day, he don't even remember what happened. I had a drink in my hand, and you crushed the drink in my hand. Like, you ain't drinking. You was pushing. Yo, when he get drunk.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, half. I'm glad you did that to that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

But for me, I was Tight half. When he get drunk, he get out of line. He was on that pool table, y', all, man. Yo, he get angry, bro.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

That's why you stop drinking. Okay?

[Interviewer / Host]

He get crazy.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I mean, you know that. That's that qb, you know what I'm saying? Like, got you. You know what I'm saying? Got you, you know what I'm saying? We get our drink going, you know?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, that Henny, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I mean, you see us in the Shook Was video with the Henny T shirts. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

That was matter of fact, we started the Henny wave.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

When you really think about it, us and Nas, you know, say we.

[Interviewer / Host]

Tupac mentioned y' all was on that Henny early.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

See, now, I can't with that. He though. You know what I'm saying? Because that's. I don't even trust myself.

[Guest / Interviewer]

Gotcha.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I'll be like, dad, like, would you wake up and be like, don't you worry. I gotta talk to you, son. Like, you. I don't even want to hear it. You know what I'm saying? So you got to have. Right now,

[Interviewer / Host]

I was saying, I remember the first time before 50 sound, and we was in the studio with them, and. And it was wild because I forgot who was in the studio. It was.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It was like 40 of y'.

[Interviewer / Host]

All. It was like 40. It was me, Smurf, Banks, mad niggas, right? So who was the two niggas in there again? Was it.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It was me, Gotti.

[Interviewer / Host]

It was Gotti.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Somebody else. I forgot it wasn't.

[Interviewer / Host]

It was Gotti and somebody. It was two of them in there.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

And they left they weed on the table.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I think you told me Smurf went

[Interviewer / Host]

and took they weed.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I remember that.

[Interviewer / Host]

They came back. I'm like, yo, son, you wilding. He went and took they weed like winning they weed and shit. I'm like, yo, this wilding, right? We in the studio, Mobb Deep. He took the weed. And them niggas started arguing like, yo, son, you touched my weed. Yo, that shit was the crack up. But I was. I'm laughing, but I'm like, damn, we in the studio with Mobb Deep right now. Cause, like, the history of Mobb Deep is what I told him. This is what I.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

They started arguing with each other.

[Interviewer / Host]

They started arguing with each other like, you took my weed. They didn't think Smurf took it. But we was smoking. Ain't that was up. You know what I'm saying?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know. You know how I remember it? It was. Y' all came in the studio, fifth recorded the song, Boom, boom, Boom. He bounced, and the Wii was gone. So we called y', all, and y' all made one of them bring the weed back.

[Interviewer / Host]

See, I remember that. See, you remember that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Made the bring the weed back. I don't know if it was. I don't know who it was.

[Interviewer / Host]

Cause 5th get tight. That like, that took his weed. Come on, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He made.

[Interviewer / Host]

He made.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He made bring that shit back.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Look at that. See there?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Bring it back.

[Interviewer / Host]

Wild times. Like, I was explaining the store. Because store don't know, you know, murder. Cause Queens get the money. I love all the Brooklyn rappers, but this guy go. When you look at Mob Deep, right? Like, rest in peace, my man, Fat Shout. DJ Rough Hands. I remember going to the club when Shook Wins came out. I don't care if you a Brooklyn, Bronx nigga, Staten Island, Long Island, Harlem, wherever, upstate, wherever. When Shook Ones came out, you knew it was gonna be like a fight or a shootout or something was gonna break out. Like, it was. It was like Bloodsport music, you know what I mean? I know they got songs called Bloodsport, but how did you feel when Shook Ones came out?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Nah, that was that shit right there. That was.

[Interviewer / Host]

That was like. How did you feel? How was. Like, what was your craziest club experience? Shook Ones, you gonna say the Tunnel. Cause y' all was around tunnel time. And for you kids that don't know you couldn't wear a chain in the tunnel, they ban change. Niggas was checking your shoes, was getting thrown through security, was thrown through. Through glass doors. It was the wildest club in New York City for you. Y. N.S. that don't know.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But the. The Tunnel was. Was cool. But, you know, the Tunnel was like. You know what I mean? It was. It was. It was one of those, you know what I'm saying? You had to be on your A game because Cruz was in there and all that. But when we perform, Sick Ones in the Tunnel, you know what I'm saying? They got a little wild and all that, but it usually be, like, out of state when just be wilding, like, you know what I'm saying? Like Minneapolis, Minnesota. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I was only 19 when y' all came out with Shook Ones, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

We was like, that's crazy when you think about it.

[Interviewer / Host]

How did you get with Prodigy? How did everything come together?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Well, I met Prodigy in high school, you know what I'm saying? The High School of Art and Design, you know what I mean? I was in there one year before him, and then he came in the next year. And I used to hear that coming up the hole with that used to have, like, Jury, like, Slick Rick. Like, for real, for real. I mean, high school, like, in high school, I used to be like, damn, like, yo, who this walking through, like, Jury, and nobody not with him, and you know what I'm saying? But we had, you know I'm saying, mutual friends, and. And then we became cool. But he was a fly nigga even back in high school, like, you know what I mean? Like, for real, for real. He was the wild one. He used to bring the Crazy Horse to school. We'd be drinking St. Oz in the fucking cafeteria, you know what I'm saying? Like, he used to be bringing all that shit to school. But yeah, Rip, that's my brother, man. For real.

[Interviewer / Host]

So what studio y' all did Shook Ones in? How did that. That was the first song. Would you say that was the first?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I made the beat Shook Ones in my crib in Queensbridge, in my mom's apartment. Wow. Yeah, I made that in there. While, you know, everybody outside playing ball and all that, I'm upstairs just making a beat and, like, I ain't really think nothing of it, to be honest with you. You know what I'm saying? I'm a new making beast and like that. So I'm just like, all right, you know what I'm saying? Beat. I mean, whatever came upstairs, like, yo, what's that? I was like, ah. You know what I'm saying? Some. Some track about the. You know what I'm saying? Turn the shit off. Chill. You know what I'm saying? We took it to the studio. We took it to, I think, like, Battery, Battery Studios. Because, you know, Job Records, they had a studio called, like, Battery. So we took it in there and P came with the hook and it was. It was. Matter of fact, we did a Shook Ones Part one first, you know what I'm saying? And it was all right, you know what I mean? It was like, all right, you know what I'm saying? This is cool. And so we needed to do a remix, and that's why I was like, you know what I'm saying? Trying to make another beat for it, you know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah. Now when you look at the list, it was like three Shook Ones.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Because it's called Shook One's Part two.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah. Shook One's Part two.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

But that was like the main one that was in the clubs, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Right? Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Interviewer / Host]

That's. So that wasn't the first one you made.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah, I made. I had made one before that. It was just, you know, just regular.

[Interviewer / Host]

You made the second one. I know you was like, oh, man, this man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Like, it was like. Like a dream come true. You know what I'm saying? It's like. You know what I mean? You. It's like, if you playing in the NBA and you trying to get that chip, you know what I mean?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I got that when I caught one with that Shook on record. It was like, oh, we from.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We from the ground, from the gutter, like, you know what I'm saying? And we made a hit song, you know what I'm saying, that's going crazy

[Interviewer / Host]

on radio every day.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

The video.

[Interviewer / Host]

But I always say havoc was Kanye west before Kanye west. Because it's rare that you got a rapper that rap and produce like Dr. Dre or Kanye, you know what I'm saying? Or you just numerous or Swiss, you know what I mean? But, like, it's so many beats have. There's not even like, a top five for beats. Like when. When I. When you need to give it up. Came out with the Scarface shit. Damn. Damn.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

They need to give it up. We don't give a.

[Interviewer / Host]

So it was like, what you.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

What the like is? Bye.

[Interviewer / Host]

And this is what I'm trying to tell y'. All. It's not microwave music. This is music that lasts forever, like Michael Jackson and Mark Deep and, you know, it lasts forever, like slick rick and krs1. So it's like I just said, they came. He came off of 40. Date countries, date Rest in Peace without Prodigy. Right? You know what I'm saying? Now, if Prodigy was here. Yeah, Rest in Peace and Prodigy. If Prodigy was here, it would be a fucking problem. Mobb Deep went through eras of hip hop when New York wasn't glazing. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm not saying they glazing now, but you had, like, Haitian Jack running around. Tut running around. It was extortion kings out this fact, you know what I'm saying? The Tunnel was a movie, you know what I mean? Talk about the. The era of, like, the Beef with Tupac when, you know, snooping them at la la, right. Did they come? Did they really get shot out of New York?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

In Brooklyn. Yeah. Yeah. And then y' all came out with la.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

Cause that was the original.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I was so happy when y' all came out with that la. It felt like nobody in New York wanted to do nothing at that time, right? I was so happy when y' all came out.

[Interviewer / Host]

Murder. Let me finish.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Go ahead, brother.

[Interviewer / Host]

So when la. Cause look. No, no. When LA and LA came out. Gentlemen, gentlemen.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Get the fuck out of here with that gentleman.

[Interviewer / Host]

When LA LA came out, y', all, like, he said y' all was the only niggas that said something. The beat was crazy. And Prodigy, Tragedy. Gaddafi was on that one. You. All we knew is Snoop came to la, got shot at. So that was like. Yeah, that was. Y' all was in between the East Coast, west coast beef before Pac and Big. How was that? And Pac dis. You know, he. When he did Machiavelli. Was it Machiavelli? He said Prodigy had Sickle Cell.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, that was my mother back in the day.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah. I mean, that was like. Nobody knew Prodigy had Sickle Cell to. Pac did it. What's the temperature? Like, what's going through Mom? Deep Head and N from Queensbridge and all the gangsters. Heads.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Were you that young? You, like 19, 20, 21. That shit is, like, fun to you. You know what I'm saying? You like? Word. Come on, fuck it.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Let's get it beefy with Pac. Oh, let's go. Let's go.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, fuck it. When we see you, we see you, like, you know, of course you don't

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

care about the city, definitely.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know what I mean? So it was just one of those things. I kind of like. I figured that that beef was probably gonna get real, you know what I'm saying, If we bump heads, you know? Cause it's pop. Of course. Of course he older than us, you know what I'm saying? And they like, he gonna be like, oh, talk. You know what I'm saying? We got a thousand niggas with us. I know they got a thousand niggas with them. It just probably wouldn't have been good. Like, you know what I mean? But it never happened, you know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

You ever ran into Pac?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Never, ever. I seen him once when I was, like, 16 at what. What's that called? Jack the Rapper or How to Be Down.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

So this is before or. This is before. That's all right. Copy, copy.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We was just. You know what I mean? I think we was on four for Broadway, you know, I mean, trying to get our feet wet. And, you know, you. You seen Tupac? Cause you know what I'm saying? He was even famous back then.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, yeah, Facts, you know what I'm saying?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We just kids in the background and shit, just, like, looking like, oh, Shit, they go, Tupac. And that's the only time I ever physically laid eyes on him. There's a picture online with Tupac, and you see Prodigy all the way in the back. Like, word of the Mother. Like, peeing. Yeah, peeing the back. So we was in the same room with him and shit like that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Oh, look at that. That's crazy.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah, nah, it's ill.

[Interviewer / Host]

But even then, he dissing y' all on Machiavelli.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

Because back then, we. We loved that beef. Yeah, we loved it, too. We love that static. Po. We love that static. So hold on. What Biggie had was beef. Was that a pause? Huh? That's a pause. Now, Biggie was beef.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Was beef.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I mean, if I'm singing that in the car, if we going on today's rules and how things go, that might be a. You know.

[Interviewer / Host]

Adam, when's the pause meter coming for this time?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I'm just saying.

[Interviewer / Host]

Huh? Oh, no. All right. That was for pause. Even the producer saying that was pause. We love that static. My bad. But when you think about it, y' all was beefing with Tupac. Like, when y' all in the studio and you chilling, you in Queensbridge. I know. Like, you know, in the. Like, we gonna kill Pac. I know a couple of niggas like, can't wait to kill these niggas. They come to New York. I know it was all kind of shit, like. Cause back then, you was getting wrapped up into the action. Yeah, like I told you, Mobb Deep. Look, I'm on. I'm from 134 and God, Brewer. All I. I was pitching all night. You know, I'm the type of. When everybody say they leaving, I would get happy. Cause I know I'm gonna get all the money. There's no competition. So the whole boulevard was going with the Lost Boys. Rest in peace. Freaky Ty, his brother J Ball, B. Wild. You know, all these. All these niggas from 134 going to show when they come back. You know, couple things got scratches on them. You know, my man Sunshine had blood. He had like a bb.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Bb.

[Interviewer / Host]

One of them BB belts before the time. It was like just some. Some wild looking. But he looked like you could beat a with it. He had blood on it. I'm like, yo, what happened? Like, we had a brawl with Mobb Deep. I'm like, word. So I would have been there if I would have went. You know what I'm saying? I told him that. Talk about that Mob Deep. Lost Boy Bro, I was talking to him on the phone about this.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yo, this actually was like. This actually was our first show ever. It was like our first show ever. And you know, Lost Boys was on the bill. It was on 23rd Street. I never forget it. You know, everybody from the project's happy. Like, oh, y' all gotta multi. Gotta show the whole projects is going, you know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

Oh, Queensbridge, like, literally feeling Lost Boys at the time.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Like, oh, so we about to do some shit with Lost Boys or niggas

[Interviewer / Host]

was like, man, they was in their

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

own Z. I can't even remember if I even knew who they was, to be honest with you. I don't know. Maybe I. Yeah, I think I heard of them because they was like, from South Jamaica and all of that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Oh, so this before they had their record popping.

[Interviewer / Host]

They might have.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

They might have.

[Interviewer / Host]

Popping at that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, they might have had something out.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

But the relationship and all that,

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know what I'm saying? It wasn't no beef between us and them. It wasn't no beef. But it's that thing like, right, Like Queensbridge, Jamaica, Southside. It's like, you knew that was a little. You knew that was a little competition ego.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

So you really, like. You ain't jacking, really, what they doing? Not that it's beef, but you ain't

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

even checking for like cousins. But like, you know what I'm saying? Like, trying to outdo each other. And cuz everybody knows Southside is wild, you know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

Like, yeah, south side

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

from this side

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

of Queens, but, you know. But we still go out there and chill and hang out. I remember one time being out there when we was on fro for Broadway. It was this place called the Nottington House. You remember that? Yeah, the Nottington House. Some little party was going on out over there and we was in there. It was like, it. Yo, go get the Michael. Go rap on the mic and all right it. So get up there, start freestyling. We basically in the back of 40 projects or some like that. You know what I'm saying? So we rapping. All right, cool. That was cool. Get off the mic. The from Jamaica got on. Jamaica got on the mic. They was like, yo, man, all that Queensman. We all looking like we like, oh, it's on. But. But that happened. That happened. It's like, all right,

[Interviewer / Host]

I'm gonna talk about the Lost in peace, freaky time.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I'm gonna talk about the little.

[Interviewer / Host]

I would have fought y' all back in the days If I would have went, son, you would have had to know.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You would have had to know karate.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Them would have beat you up.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We had karate.

[Interviewer / Host]

Whatever.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We had karate.

[Interviewer / Host]

Karate be wild. Them was crazy karate too. J Bull. I done seen,

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

yo.

[Interviewer / Host]

They wasn. They didn't come back that twisted. Where y' all beat the out of me?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You just said they came back twisted.

[Interviewer / Host]

Now let my man have blood on his belt.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Now let my man have tell his story, man.

[Interviewer / Host]

What happened?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Cause you wasn't there, bro.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

So. Nah, you know what happened. We performed or whatever it is. They performed. But you know, niggas from the projects, they still lingered around. And probably one N1 nigga. And then it just was like a battle royal, yo. In the streets, n was cutting, niggas getting cut back. And you know what I'm saying? It was just. I already had bounce. I already had left because you know me, I just do the show, grab something out.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Did any of your come back a little bruised up?

[Interviewer / Host]

Of course.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Everybody.

[Interviewer / Host]

You know, a couple of come on them. Yo, listen, man from my hood. Them lost boy was brawlers. Them wake up in the morning, drink Devil Springs and fight every day. It was

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

control. I'm telling. I'm telling the nice.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You tried to od.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Have

[Interviewer / Host]

you had beef to this day hav stuff me back in the days?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, right.

[Interviewer / Host]

That happened to me though, too. Look what happened. Security, you know, big house. He's the size of the room. That nigga took me down in one of them clothes before. Pause, pause.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I just said nah.

[Interviewer / Host]

But he did something like, not pause. He did. He did. He did some like. Some like. He did some like sweep his man, sweep me. Pause. And then he fell off the ground. Pause. And then he just. He had a nigga down pause. You know what I'm saying? My house is like £400. But look fast forward. He shady, shady Eminem right there.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

And it's no love, so I could

[Interviewer / Host]

have put back in my guy.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But look, but look, but look. To this day, mad cool is freaky tired. Like, for real.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

For real facts.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Mad cool with them. Like, you know, bumped into them so many times, and for a long time, it was just like beef for no reason. Because it be niggas from your projects, niggas from day projects. The. You know, sometimes the rappers be the cool ones and shit like that. But when there's too many niggas there, somebody gonna bump somebody and just be.

[Interviewer / Host]

Was Queensbridge ever cool? What's the other project? I'm bugging me next next to Queensbridge.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

What Is it Ravenswood?

[Interviewer / Host]

Ravenswood. Y' all never got along? No, yeah, yeah.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

No, no, no.

[Interviewer / Host]

We was kind of cool. You got from Ravenswood in the entourage.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I'm sure, like, a couple of Ravenswood niggas was there, but you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know the politics now, you know what I'm saying? But back then, it was kind of cool.

[Interviewer / Host]

I think Queensbridge and Ravenswood is still beefing.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I mean, you know, I heard some stories, but I don't. I, you know, I, I, you know, I don't know. Yeah, you know what I mean? But.

[Interviewer / Host]

So how was the tunnel? You got any bros in the tunnel? How was the tunnel? What was the temperature like in the Tunnel? Like the Tunnel. Tell me the ill Tunnel stories. I want to hear the shook ones. First time y' all performed there. I want to hear the second time y' all was in the tunnel. Did you see anybody get robbed? Because I know they had the no chain shit.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, check your boots and couple of. I mean, see, look, Chris Lighty was at the door, so we was getting in with shit RIP Chris Lighty had.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I mean, you know what I'm saying? So he was letting us in with it, you know what I mean? So we was just cool, you know, we was chilling. Nothing ever really jumped off, you know what I'm saying? That I could remember, you know what I mean? But the tunnel was a dangerous place. Very dangerous.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Now, talking about that back in the days, the beef the Mob had with Jay Z, right? Pause. Do you think that was good or bad for hip hop at that time? What you think?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I'm not going to say it was bad for hip hop, you know what I mean? Cuz, you know, hip hop is a contact sport. Pause.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Right, right. Okay, you on point.

[Interviewer / Host]

That was.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I'm.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I'm getting it. I'm getting it. But for me, it was just like. It was just kind of unfortunate because I'm like one of those people that I. I be hoping that niggas could get along and join forces because other states be like that, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? They be. And New York is like one of the few places that n. Don't be really together like that as a force, because New York is so separated automatically as soon as we born. The boroughs you from Brooklyn, Queens from Queensland. It's like, so people don't understand it, you know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

I don't know if Myrtle remember this, but this is how I Viewed it. I feel like Prodigy and E Money Bags rest in peace. E Money Bags rest in peace. Prodigy was trying to debo Jay Z that time on the radio. That's when Jay Z had an artist called H Moneybags. You do your homework. E Moneybags was a gangster. Everybody know niggas, Him, Hommo and Troy could take over the whole queens when they had them things in their hand, right? Cool. E Moneybags was on the radio and Jay Z had an artist named H Moneybags. And Prodigy put him on the phone. Is it that how the beef started? The static? I mean, Pause.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah, nah, that's not how the beef started. But that probably escalated it. You understand what I'm saying? What happened was like, we was talking about Lala, right? We made the song LA la and then Jay Z did an interview somewhere. Prodigy saw it, and I guess they asked Jay Z, you know, no. Matter of fact, Jay Z made the song. Talking about, like, New York been soft ever since Snoop kicked the building.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Got you.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But Prodigy felt like we wasn't acknowledged for making LA LA if. How could he say that if we made LA la? You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Look at that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

So Prodigy kind of took it personal, you know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

And I kind of understand that because y' all did rep. Y' all rap,

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

and we didn't really get no recognition for that. Like, you gotta be like a hip hop fan to really know that y' all came back like, the year' cause

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

the song ain't really, you know, on the street level.

[Interviewer / Host]

On the streets. The streets knew what was going on. But, you know.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But you know what I mean, like, on the radio.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I know what you mean.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Copy on the radio like that.

[Interviewer / Host]

I mean, to me, it didn't matter because the DJs was grabbing it. True. Like, once snooping them had New York, New York, big city of dreams. Y' all came to y'. All. This record was like maybe three, four, eight, maybe a week later, a couple of days later. So I remember my man, Rest in Peace, Rough Hands had that joint LA la, Big city of dreams.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

So that's crazy from there. That's what it was. Probably they ain't getting no recognition, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Because then. Because. Because Jay Z did an interview. And then in the interview. No, no, no, no. They was interviewing Pete, you know what I'm saying? They asked him about Jay Z, you know what I'm saying? And he just went off and he called Jay out his name in the magazine. And then Jay caught that, and then that's when the Takeover.

[Interviewer / Host]

How did you. How did you. Where was y' all at? How did you feel? Cause the Takeover was fired.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He was.

[Interviewer / Host]

He was coming at everybody.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah, I mean, you know, Jay is ill. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

Like, how did you feel? Like, yo, fuck that nigga. I'm going to the pool.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Of course, like, after that, you know, I don't know. That shit just felt crazy because we was overseas when we heard about it in the Summer Jam screen and all that shit, and we was, like, looking at each other like, you already know what it is. Like, we gotta get in that booth and just go crazy. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

So I think Jay was in Dismode at that time. That's when. Like, now I know he's not saying dissing everybody is crazy, but when you really think about it, Jay was the most disrespectful. Nas, yo. You know what I'm saying?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He went in.

[Interviewer / Host]

You little. I got money stacks bigger than you.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He went.

[Interviewer / Host]

And then he had Hot nine, seven. Shout out to Hot nine seven. They was jacking with him.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

They was working.

[Interviewer / Host]

He was letting him do what he wanted to do. He had to remember what. Now he had the upper hand.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He had the upper hand. Spaz that blacked out.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

He went crazy.

[Interviewer / Host]

They didn't want to let him hang Jay. And then you gotta think about it. When Jay put Prodigy on a summer grand on a Summer Jam screen, that was the first time a n really

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

trolled some shit like that. Yeah, it was.

[Interviewer / Host]

That was the first troll ever. You was a ballerina. I got the pictures. I seen you.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Interviewer / Host]

Rest in peace to P. But people don't know. His grandmother was, like, one of the most biggest dance choreographers in the world.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But that was od, though. Cause he. He wasn't even dressed like what Jay described, you know, say. But everybody jacked it, you know what I'm saying? He just was at the dance school with, like, a Michael Jackson jacket on. Like, all of us probably wore, you know what I'm saying? At his grandmother's dance studio. But he. But he. But Jay, he milked it. He was like, oh, I see you, ballerina. I see you. But it wasn't bad. It wasn't like that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Okay?

[Interviewer / Host]

Come on, bro. I know, because Prodigy grandmother in Queens is one of the biggest dance teachers back in the days. Queen. So I know mad people. That family, everybody went to the school, so Prodigy probably took some lessons or whatever. But how did Jay get the picture? That's number one Easy.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

That's easy.

[Interviewer / Host]

Expressing money.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

No, not even. Not even money. Not even money. Because somebody that went to Prodigy's grandmother dance school was really tight with that circle right there.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Oh, okay.

[Interviewer / Host]

Gotcha.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Was really tight with that circle. So y' all kind of try to guess who that is. Like, you know, I ain't dropping no names now. It's over now. But they went to the school, and they was, you know, they was, you know, they was right in that circle. Cause I told people, I said, come on, you already know how they got that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You know.

[Interviewer / Host]

Oh, somebody and his camp went to the school.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they got that.

[Interviewer / Host]

Oh. So they went to the studio.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It was a good test.

[Interviewer / Host]

Not Jay is smart.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

We know it was a good chess move.

[Interviewer / Host]

But it was. It was definitely, you know, a good time at war. But I felt like Mobb Deep was one of the classic groups in New York City at that time. So I feel like it kind of built Jay career when he was dissing niggas. I'm not saying he wasn't nice. He had shit. But come on, take over. I remember when that came out. I was living on Springfield Boulevard. I remember when that shit. That was like a big diss record, like the takeover. You know what I'm saying?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

You know, and then Hot 97, you know, every time.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I'm keeping it real. Can you talk about yellow? That's my man. I know. Get the out here with that. I'm just keeping it real.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I know, but I'm just keeping.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Don't want to hear that.

[Interviewer / Host]

That.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I'm reminiscing.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I'm reminiscing.

[Interviewer / Host]

I think it's.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I was having on that Henny. He would have crushed your cup, right? He would have grabbed your cup and

[Interviewer / Host]

said, listen, shut the out. I like him junk more. I like him junk more. Nigga would have been like, yo, shut the.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You got about.

[Interviewer / Host]

Nigga have cool right now. Think about it. Look. No, I ain't lying. Yo, look, look. You gotta look at this. How I look at Mob Deep. Queens all day. Queens get the money. You know what I'm saying? You know?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Well, you're acting like you Brooklyn right now.

[Interviewer / Host]

I'm not acting like

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Brooklyn.

[Interviewer / Host]

This is the point. If. If the. If the best niggas in the game, if Tupac and Jay Z get at you, what that mean? That means, of course we know. We know that. We know the history snooping them is getting at you. You the best.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Of course.

[Interviewer / Host]

So I'm here to talk about the history of Mob D for people that don't know they beef with Pac they beef with like when Pac said P had sickle cell we waiting on the P this record we waiting on the mob.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

D better believe but we dropped Japa

[Interviewer / Host]

Jim on him and that was a

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

hit and not but what's so crazy? He died like two weeks after that. He died like two weeks after we dropped it. And the record was picking up.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It was. It definitely was picking up. Definitely was.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He got shot and he died and then we just had to pull the record.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Word.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

That was crazy.

[Interviewer / Host]

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[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

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[Interviewer / Host]

so when you started making, like, what, what made you start with the npc? Because I know you had the NBC back then, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

So what, what made you start? Because like, you, you, you're not regular. You're not like, you know, we have producers, you know, you got dudes that made what up gangster, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Right.

[Interviewer / Host]

He made that was like, to me, his biggest even punch that made seductive. I feel like some, some producers just. I'm not gonna say they one hit. You say they one hit producers.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I mean, they get, they get that

[Interviewer / Host]

one, they get that one record, it's still a big record. So you give them recognition. But what I'm saying is how do you stay consistent? Like, what's your thought process making a beat? Because you're definitely like top five in producers.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You go crazy on the market.

[Interviewer / Host]

You up there with Swizz Timbaland, you up there with Just Blaze. You up there with Eminem, like, like, what the. What the fuck? Like, what's your process when you getting

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

that energy from the hood, you know what I'm saying? That energy is crazy, you know what I'm saying? So it's powerful, you know what I mean? When you trying to make it up out of somewhere, you know what I mean? And, and you focused and you're not going to parties and you're not doing none of that. You're just like, man, it, I'm working on this music. So you know what I mean? I, that's, that's how it came. So you make it Shook once you make a survival, then you come with the next album. You make a hell on earth, you know what I mean? And then after that, you, you make it. It's mine and Quiet Storm and all those things, it's just like, it's momentum, you know what I'm saying? And you just, you just keep going. And the reason why the NPC is because I love technology. See, I didn't make the shook ones Part one on the npc. But when it was time to make Shook Owns Part two, I was introduced to the npc. And I just loved that shit. Like, you know what I mean? I really loved it. And I just used it with a keyboard and that.

[Interviewer / Host]

You know what's crazy? When you say part two, that's really part one. Because the other one I don't really listen to.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

We only listen to the part probably. Yeah, part two, that's the main one.

[Interviewer / Host]

That's the one. That's why I was bugging when I was playing it the other day in the car. And I'm like, it do say part two. And I was bugging like that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It's a red.

[Interviewer / Host]

Nobody even really know that until you look at the albums.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yo, you know what? You'd be surprised. You know that song by Big Pun? What's that song? He got the song and he used Prodigies. Beware a killer kid.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that. Okay, that's crazy.

[Interviewer / Host]

Okay, beware.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I gave you fair warning. That's. That's what I want. So was listening to that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Look at that. Okay, got you.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But we just needed something more bouncier, you know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

So. So what was your. What was the thoughts when you made Quiet Storm? Because that's another one.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I was in my crib.

[Interviewer / Host]

What sample is that?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

That's White Lines by Sugar Hill Game.

[Interviewer / Host]

That was crazy.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I ran out. I ran out of samples. I was just. I was like, damn. I listened to all the records already, and I'm looking at, you know, the Sugar Hill Gang. We all. We all know the beat, you know what I'm saying? We love the song, but it's like you can't really do nothing with it. It's just like it's a record. Just. Just did in your stats. I said it, man. Let me just. You know what I mean? So I put the record on. I said, what could you do to this? And I just slowed this shit down. Yeah, I slowed it because the record is fast. I just slowed it down. And then I got the Triton keyboard and just did some keys on it. And I left it in the computer for like a month. No lie. And then P used to come to my crib every day, go down straight to the basement and just be listening to the beast that I made. I'd be upstairs, sleep, and I came downstairs, he's like, yo, have. What's this? I was like, ah.

[Interviewer / Host]

You know what I'm saying?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Whatever.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

No, I was confused about something too, right? P was from Queensbridge No, P was

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

from Long island left Rack, left rack,

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

and Long island left rap. Okay, copy. Okay, copy.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But when he came to Queensbridge, I mean, that nigga soaked that shit up like a sponge.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Copy that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Like you, I seen the argument online. Somebody, two motherfuckers was arguing with each other, saying I was from Long island and P was from Queensbridge.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Gotcha.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know, that's how much. You know what I'm saying. P embraced.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah, because they said he from Hempstead, Eric B from Long Island. I mean, Rock, him from Long island, too.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

And did y' all know Nas before all that shit? Like, before?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Before the whole rap thing took off like that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, I knew Nas since I was about 7, 8.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

All right.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know what I'm saying? We used to go to the same daycare together, all of that. And then I hung back out with them when I was about, like, 14, 15. We used to hang out, shit like that. I knew his mom's brother and all that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

So when y' all started making music and all that shit together, well, you

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

know, we didn't really make music together until, like, both of us made it. You know what I mean? He made it first, I made it second. Me and Pete made it second. And you know what I mean? Nas jumped on. He jumped on. IPhone

[Interviewer / Host]

rolls by we even got Brooklyn on it. That's why Jay had to get at the mall. Come on. They was the greatest, you know, Let me blow shots at these. Well, I'm saying let me blow shots at Nas.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

Cause Brooklyn was Biggie. Was Biggie out yet?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Biggie was out Big and J was out.

[Interviewer / Host]

I saw y' all really. Y' all had Big and J. But know Queens, we like Nas. We can't forget about Kapone and Noriega. Strategy. Queens was running shit at that point, but out of everybody, tragedy, Gaddafi, all them niggas was fired. But the mob Deep was like, everybody know, like I said, a lot of niggas, even Brooklyn rappers, none of them really had. Some of them Brooklyn rappers don't got Blood Sport records like, Shook ones was like when that shit came on in the. In the clubs. Cause I've been in things gotta understand. I've been in every club that been shot up, every Hole in the Wall club by some hardcore.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, we like the raw.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Pause.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Might have to say pause.

[Interviewer / Host]

But that was fun. Y' all got that one, I reckon, was fun. But if we have a debate, shout out to mop. But if we have a poll, if we have a Poll. If we have a poll. Pause, I guess. Shook Ones was real murder music. Like when that came on. It's time for DJs to pack up. You heard Eddie. It's time to pack up. That's when you know, oh, shit. About to get shot up. These niggas in here. Oh, it's crazy. Pack up the records. Like, you know, when that come on in the first, it wasn't in the thing that makes Shook Ones a Hall of Fame. Killer record is because when that come on, that's when you start packing up

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

that you stuck off.

[Interviewer / Host]

A lot of Brooklyn don't got shit like that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Shut the up.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah, I'm trying to tell him that's fight music. Prodigy, come on. Prodigy really was on the same level as Jay Jake. He got at it because the best get at the best. Mobb Deep, Look, Tupac was mentioning him. Come on. The Takeover was about. The Takeover was always. The Takeover was a disc towards for real, Boys. Come on. Illuminati got my mind solemn. We ain't even know what Illuminati was back then. DJ don't get me whacked over there because DJ's Illuminati. He only eat peanut butter sandwiches. Illuminati shit he be doing over there. But he was like, illuminati got my mind, soul in my body. Secret society. Come on, man. Jay had to get at the Queens niggas. Cause it was the Takeover to keep it real. That's why he called it the Takeover. Think about it. He got at Nas and Mobb Deep, the whole record.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You back to that, my nigga. I'm just saying. You back to that. This nigga went back to that.

[Interviewer / Host]

I'm not going back.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

He went back to that.

[Interviewer / Host]

All I'm saying is the best. Look, the best. Had to go at the best.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Of course. That's hip hop.

[Interviewer / Host]

That was hip hop.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

We're a competitive sport.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, it's competitive sport.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It's a competitive sport, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Battle tested.

[Interviewer / Host]

Mobb Deep got classic battle tested.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

Hall of Fame.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

So how has life been, really? A little bit as far as the music and just everything overall, like, without project. Because I actually met his daughter one time. Shout out to his daughter.

[Interviewer / Host]

She loves music and all that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Shout out to her.

[Interviewer / Host]

Shout out to his son, too. Too.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

How that whole transition been, like, still trying to make the music and all that, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It's very, very different. Like, you know what I mean? It's like. It's like night and day, like, you know, I' ma Still try to do what I do. But you know, losing, it's like not like, you know, saying I lost my brother. You know what I'm saying? No matter what we went through, you know, brothers fight. Of course. Of course. Go through and whatever, Whatever. But, you know, every time I think about it, you know what I'm saying? That's it. It me up. No, definitely it me up. Cause you know, I lost my real brother in like killer black 90s. Killer 97.

[Interviewer / Host]

How was killer Black? How he was? He was a crazy. Cause y', all, y' all said, wow. We felt like we knew him. Cause you always said you ain't lying about that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You repped him a lot. That's a fact.

[Interviewer / Host]

What was this about? What was the. What was the. I think when y' all was talking about the drinks.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Drink away the pain

[Interviewer / Host]

y' all had so much. Like, that's what I'm saying. Mob deep just got. I'm still bumping Mob deep in the whip, dog.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

No facts.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I play that. Cause I be trying to tap in sometimes, you know what I'm saying? Like, think about, you know, to talk to my 19 year old self. Just listen to it real quick and like that. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

Cause y' all made some hits. Only one you didn't make was Shout to Alchemist. Keep it thorough.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Which one? Keep it though. And that was Fire. That was. That was. Yeah, that was fire.

[Interviewer / Host]

You know, because you know how I be feeling like with production. I don't know, maybe I'm old school. I don't know. The beats was just different back then. Like it was like a make a beat and nothing sound like that, right? Like Quiet Stone. You know what I'm saying?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Right? Right when you did nothing sounds like that.

[Interviewer / Host]

Like you. Come on, man. You sampled the out of Scarface and Godfather. Like nobody was thinking like that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Godfather Part three. What?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I'm surprised.

[Interviewer / Host]

Hey, yo, and the skits was crazy. You see that right there?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

Right here, son. Yo, hit him, hit him. Pause. Hit him, hit him. Pause. Hit him, hit him. Pause. You on point.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You on point. I'm over here watching you on point.

[Interviewer / Host]

That's how the skit is now. Everything's a fucking poor. Eat a hot dog. You gotta eat a hot dog at your own barbecue. Gotta eat hamburgers. Everything is a pause, man. I'm keeping it real, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

What's that dude they be having online with the Jamaican voice? Be in the back of bti, boy.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, you better believe it. You better believe it. Can't be playing out Here nowadays, man, this too real, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Wait, hold on. You gotta say pause for get the orange juice.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yo, with this everything.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You good with that? You good.

[Interviewer / Host]

Like I said, beefing with pop, that was crazy. So when y' all heard the pop, when you heard Machiavelli, do y' all like, listen to the whole album when y' all was listening?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Like, nah, I ain't gonna lie.

[Interviewer / Host]

You ain't listen to the song?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah, I really, I never even really at that time, I didn't listen to the whole album. But then I later.

[Interviewer / Host]

You listen to the Diss record?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I listened to the Diss record. I listened to the Diss record. But I later on found out that he dissed us on like four songs. Like, if you listen to the album, like. Like he was going in. That's just the main one that everybody heard.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, but he was taking the same.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But if you go, if you listen to the album, you like, oh, shit. Like, he was like really pissed. He was angry, y'.

[Interviewer / Host]

All. And Snoop was the first East Coast, west coast drama. Cause it was like, you know, you know how the west coast is west coast, best coast, cuz them niggas don't LA is la. They stick together. Like Detroit stick together. New York, we used to stick together. Like it used to be New York versus did we. I feel like it was like that a long time ago. New York versus everybody.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I talked about half women rappers used

[Interviewer / Host]

to come back in the MOBB deep days. Rappers used to come down here and get booked, not get greeted and all that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

That's, that's. That's not sticking together because came out here and got robbed. He talking about. That's different. Yeah, used to come out here and get robbed, but wasn't sticking together.

[Interviewer / Host]

But if New York go somewhere, they was od. New York is in the building is wilding. Like it used to be like that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But you know what though? Did used to stick together. But it was behind the scenes shit that never got recognition. Like. Like, you know, Big and Nas, they visited each other, but you never knew that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You start finding that out years later, like just now, damn near, right? You start finding out how koolaid was, but you never knew that. Back in the day, you thought Big and Nas didn't like each other. The way I used to look at it, it felt like it was competition where they didn't like each other. From the outside looking in, you would have thought they didn't like each other half, right? But you find out years later, these was cool pulling up on each other. All type of.

[Interviewer / Host]

In the beginning had a record, so.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

In the beginning? Yeah.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Didn't they do a record for somebody to get? No other. They never had a record. They never had a record together?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I was thinking about Shaq, but who Shaq had to get on the record back in the days. I forgot Biggie. He got Biggie, but he had somebody else on it as well.

[Interviewer / Host]

He didn't have Nas on there.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It wasn't.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Now, I think he had two people on the record that never did a record together.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Exactly. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He's the only one that did it.

[Interviewer / Host]

It might be.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It might be. It might be Nas and Niggas.

[Interviewer / Host]

I don't remember no record with Biggie. Biggie and Nas never had a record.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah. But on the Shaq record, Shaq got two artists together that never did.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

That's what I remember from back in the day.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It's something like that.

[Interviewer / Host]

I don't remember it being Nas. I would remember that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It might.

[Interviewer / Host]

It might be entrepreneur, conseur or what A connoisseur.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Shut up. Yeah. Yo, all this I wouldn't remember.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

All on one song.

[Interviewer / Host]

But they was on one song. Oh, there you go. What the fuck are y' all talking about? Oh, you don't know what you're talking about?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It wasn't on one song.

[Interviewer / Host]

Biggie and Nas was on the song together. What? Never heard of that. Which one?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Which one?

[Interviewer / Host]

He's saying it was on the album. But they wasn't on one album. But they all.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But they never was. None of them was on the song together.

[Interviewer / Host]

Biggie and Nas was never on the song together, brother.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Who Shaq had on the record, who was it Shaq featuring?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

What?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Because he had two people on the same record.

[Interviewer / Host]

It wasn't Nas and Biggie. I would have heard that record.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah. Shaq featuring Biggie and who?

[Interviewer / Host]

If you talking about that, make it that rain. You can't stop the rain. Yeah, but that's on the album.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Well, you know what? Yeah, you might. You might be right.

[Interviewer / Host]

Nas never did a song with Biggie. There was a little something there, you know, have. You just don't want to talk about it. Nas come up here and talk about it. You know, a lot of N was mad. Think about it. A lot of niggas was mad at Nas and Mobb Deep. We ran the game. Queens ran the game at that time.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

Like Jay and Jay and Big. They came. But come on. Mobb Deep was. Pause, pause.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yes. Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

So Mobb Deep was before Big, right? Y' all was. Y' all blew up before Big all around the same time.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

No, no, no, no.

[Interviewer / Host]

Big came first.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Big had party and Big was first.

[Interviewer / Host]

Big came out first.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

But we was out before Jay Z.

[Interviewer / Host]

No, but Big had party and bullshit. What year, dog? What year was party and bullshit?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

93, I think that was like 93.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

94. 95.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

94.

[Interviewer / Host]

And what year Ship Ones came out?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

No, no, no, no. It was 9 3. And then Biggie came out with his album in 9 4.

[Interviewer / Host]

What? What year did shit ones come out now?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

5. I mean, not full. My bad. Not 4. Not 4.

[Interviewer / Host]

And you said Biggie album came out in 9 4.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

His album came out in 9 4. And then we came out with Shook Ones in 9, 4.

[Interviewer / Host]

Damn. I thought Shook ones came out before that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

No, 9 4. And then we came out with the album in 9, 5.

[Interviewer / Host]

You ain't a crook, son. You just a shook one.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

That was that, man.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah. Cause Queens was running Nas and them and Jay, you know, now Biggie and Jay was on it.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, Queens was managing. Yo, yo, Queens was. Brooklyn was running.

[Interviewer / Host]

Why you think Nas and Biggie have a record? Something there, that's his competition.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

That's the egos.

[Interviewer / Host]

You don't know how them balls. Biggie had balls. But if Nas and Biggie was on the record, that's a debatable. Who got the best verse? Shit, that's a real debate.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Of course that would have been a debate back then, man. Of course.

[Interviewer / Host]

Because you had a song with Jay which was a classic.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

What was that?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

22 Brooklyn Record.

[Interviewer / Host]

Brooklyn Finest.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, Brooklyn Finest. Brooklyn, Brooklyn.

[Interviewer / Host]

How was you feeling on the i4? And now, because that was.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Is that the song that go Brooklyn, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

Nah, Brooklyn Finest don't go like that.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

No, no, we. You talking about Brooklyn finances. That's what Jay Z and Big.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Oh, oh, that one. Oh, that one.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yo, but how was it you. You produced out for a too, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yep, I did that. I did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I made that right in the studio, right in front of everybody. It's right there. Made the beat real quick.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

That was in this bag.

[Interviewer / Host]

Did you produce more money, more murder, more homicide?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

No.

[Interviewer / Host]

Oh, I don't think that too.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I might have, but. You sure?

[Interviewer / Host]

I don't know.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I gotta.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I gotta. I gotta hear it. You know what? There's a lot of beats that I did that I be forgetting.

[Interviewer / Host]

What made you go in your Scarface bag on that one window? Because we was Watching that every day out of Scarface.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We was watching that every day. We was watching it every day. So I'm like, yo, this intro sounds crazy. Intro sounds crazy. So I made the beat in my head. Vanita Apple Bomb drums. Scarface B it, let's go.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

This smoke don't know.

[Interviewer / Host]

Bonita Apple Bone is like such a classic from Queens. Another one.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

I remember when that come on in the clubs back in the days. That's what I'm saying. Like shook ones that. Like those like. I don't know, man. Just for music. It was just a crazy times to be a young in the club, man. And them shits come on. Like I'm telling you. Getting a eight ball jacket stolen. And you know what I'm saying, Rob for this once that come on, Sean. To all the killers in the hundred dollar bills. Because I don't been in parties and see niggas south side, north side. I remember being in parties like that. Like it'd be a whole bunch of south side, north side American or whoever. I've been in house parties like that. You're getting kicked in, you know what I'm saying? Because. Because every. It was a lot of DJs around my away. Shorty Black, my man Lowe's. Troy. They used to DJ mad parties. Know what I'm saying? So used to be. I remember partying127 Merrick. That came on and I'll never forget that. To all the killers in the hundred dollar bills. South side. No, I'm shot. Shots start ringing off.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Y' all heard rumors before. Back in the day, y' all was supposed to sign with Puff. That was true. Yeah. I was supposed to do some shit.

[Interviewer / Host]

Serious.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah. I mean, we.

[Interviewer / Host]

We stop.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We no dead ass. We used to like, pause.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Said dead ass, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Pause. My bad. Dead ass.

[Interviewer / Host]

Damn. Everything's not.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I don't give a.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Back in. Back in. Back in high school, me and P used to be like, you know what I'm saying? Going to Checkpuff sometimes. He had a club called like. It was like Daddy's Night or Daddy's House. You know what I'm saying? Some. Like that pause.

[Interviewer / Host]

Pause.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I thought it was.

[Interviewer / Host]

It was getting mad ridiculous.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

He just trying to say too much pork.

[Interviewer / Host]

No, no, that was crazy,

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

yo.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Soon as I said it.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Soon as I said it, I seen his eyes.

[Interviewer / Host]

Like, I said, daddy, yo said it was daddy's night.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Or daddy's yo yo soon.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I said I was looking at it.

[Interviewer / Host]

Said daddy's night. I'm like, what is he talking about? That's a po. Oh, so Mob D was about to be in shiny suits like that. No, man, my nigga's about to be. No, man, my nigga's going to be a shiny suit. He had a.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He had a. He had a club night, man. You know what I'm saying? He had a club night. We used to go there, you know what I'm saying? And chill. Then we used to go to his record company and shit like that, and he wanted to sign us, but you know what I'm saying? The deal wasn't right. You know what I mean? The deal wasn't right, and we ended up signing to what, 4th and Broadway maybe or something like that. That shit was whack. And then we signed with Steve Rifkin, like, a year later.

[Interviewer / Host]

Steve Rifkin.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

So that probably was the best. One of the best decisions y' all made was not probably signing with Puff. Correct.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah. Because you already know he liked to control what the artists do as far as the music, how they look, and all of that. We from the project. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, but I. I'm not.

[Interviewer / Host]

You know, I don't.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I don't. I don't think we would have listened to him. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just gonna be honest. If he would have been like, yo, put this on. I don't think.

[Interviewer / Host]

Did he got game?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Like, nah. That.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah. We'd have been like, no. We would have had our Timbs on.

[Interviewer / Host]

No. What happens. What happens is for the first time, you might throw the outfit on. Like, how locks did not.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah.

[Interviewer / Host]

I mean, listen, then you're gonna be like, no more shiny suits. Listen, I.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It can happen to anybody for the bread. I mean, they probably did it because it made sense for the record of whatever they were shooting right.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Exactly.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

At the time. That's why they did it, because of what they were shooting at the time.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

And to be honest,

[Interviewer / Host]

back then, look. But also, they was known for that fly. Mason coogees and all that Fly. The shiny suits.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Right.

[Interviewer / Host]

It wasn't the locks image. So it wasn't.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It wasn't the. Maybe. It might have. But I would say this. It was of the time.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

You understand what I'm saying? It didn't make them. I didn't think it made them look crazy, right? It didn't make go.

[Interviewer / Host]

It didn't make go.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Oh, man, what they doing? It was cool because you knew they was down.

[Interviewer / Host]

They still said no. They the ones that said no shiny suits.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I know. Of course they probably didn't.

[Interviewer / Host]

That was classic.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

They probably didn't like it at the end of the day, you see what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

That was classic hip hop. But what I'm saying is Diddy would have had havoc and pee in shiny suits.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I don't think so, man. I don't think so. I'm telling you, we wouldn't have wore it.

[Interviewer / Host]

We wouldn't have wore it.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We wouldn't have been able to come back to qb. Come on, son. We wouldn't. You know what I'm saying? Not saying. Not saying, like, nothing's wrong with it, but I'm just saying niggas is critical, you know what I'm saying? Like, we wearing car hearts all day. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

When you think about the Timberland wave, I know other. I think somebody was saying they did Timberlands first. I don't know who it was, but I know New York from New York Timberlands, right? When you think about the wave, it's like when you looked at you, Nas and Prodigy, the army jacket kind of shit came from y'. All. The army jacket with the line and the green shit, like, that's all we was that, like, them niggas had a style that was straight grimy, but fly.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It was affordable.

[Interviewer / Host]

I remember getting.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It was affordable.

[Interviewer / Host]

I remember everybody got the arm, the 10 army jacket, green, black with the tan tims. You was crispy and queen.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Classic.

[Interviewer / Host]

Back in the days, those classic, they were starting waves.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Army went with. Right, right to the army and navy store.

[Interviewer / Host]

So that's what I'm saying with the locks. That's what I'm saying with them is like Diddy just had, you know, Biggie was like the first fat. You seen really get fly besides pun, you know what I'm saying? Cause that coogee Heavy D was on his flash. Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Heavy Duty used to be on his flash.

[Interviewer / Host]

He was I can't Rest in peace heavy D. That was one of my overweight lover. That was. You know what I mean? Is that the pause?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yes. Yeah, you said that was one of mine.

[Interviewer / Host]

Like, nah, I said that was one of my favorites. The overweight lover.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

That was the name.

[Interviewer / Host]

Pause. Rest in peace Heavy is Heavy D a pause Heavy D can't even say rest in, rest in peace heavy. But he was the first fat. Or would you say the fat Boys was the first fly? You would consider the fat Boys fly?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I mean, if you got three movies under your belt, that's some fly on that.

[Interviewer / Host]

So we say. Yeah, you would say the Fat Boys was the fly for y'.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

All.

[Interviewer / Host]

Y.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

The Fat Boys, fashion wise, I want to say they was on no fashion

[Interviewer / Host]

Fly, but they did some Adidas.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It was early. It was early in the game when they come out, it wasn't fashionably on the fly. They was just, you know, they was mad, like.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, they was just doing.

[Interviewer / Host]

I mean, they was on the Adidas wave. They had a little. They just was big, you know. Yeah, but Adidas. Because, remember, back then, Adidas was kind of bigger than Nike, then Jordan, then Nike and all that came. Cause, you know, Run dmc, shout out to Run DMC my Adidas. I'm saying that was like. Everybody's running to get Adidas. I'm saying, like, how girls was running to get Reeboks. The good old days, you know, Barbecues. Not getting shot up, y'. All. Bus trips. Dancing.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Doing backflips back then, too, man.

[Interviewer / Host]

No, it was. But, you know, it was less shoeings. Maybe one or two niggas had the.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

No, it was more. See, that'd be.

[Interviewer / Host]

Maybe 20 had the hammer. But they were chill, right? They were chill. I'm just saying there was a lot of shoes back then, man. I'm not saying. Look, Murder.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I'm not saying Brooklyn was on fire.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, Brooklyn was on fire.

[Interviewer / Host]

But what I'm saying is Merc. But Merc. What I'm saying is there be times where niggas have beef and they wouldn't violate the good old Ecstatic and wouldn't violate.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Facts.

[Interviewer / Host]

You know what I'm saying? So for me, I'm like, now it's like more violence. Like, I remember going to backyard parties. Yeah. Some of them got crazy parties. But it wasn't like, as crazy as now. To me, it was crazy.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

But, you know, back in the day, used to be nowadays, they highlighted more because of these cameras and. But back in the day was going down, man.

[Interviewer / Host]

But ain't have a button back in the day.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Different about that switchy.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah,

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

it's a whole different game.

[Interviewer / Host]

Is different, man. So have. Shout to 50, man. Shout to 50 the boss. You know what I'm saying? I mean, how was it when y' all signed? You know, Mobb Deep signed, Mop signed. It was a big moment for G Unit. We turned into a record label empire. Yeah. You know, with the. We was with the greats. We went on anger management tour. I know y' all got the twin Porsches.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

Is stick shift for pause because I'm. I stick shift pause because you didn't know how to drive stick shift?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah, I learned. I learned on that car that Fifth got us. I learned in, like, three days. Word up. And I became a pro at that. But back then, yo, you know, it was mad fun, man. You know, Fifth called me up one day because we had got dropped from Job, and 5th called me. I never spoke to him on the phone before in my life. He's like, yo, this 50? I was like, man, get the out of here. He's like, nah, this is 50. So then we started kicking in. He's like, y' all heard your free agents. I said, yeah, I with it. You know what I'm saying? You gotta holla at Pete. You know what I'm saying? Holland at P. Next thing you know, he was on G Unit. And, like, almost immediately, he was sending us songs, mad songs. So we almost had the album done, and then we jumped on that. What was that? The Mascot tour?

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah. No, it was. I think, yeah. Was it anger management? I think it was anger management.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It was anger management because Eminem was there.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah. We had the buses with our faces on it.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah. Yup. That was crazy. And that's around the time that that P had the bulletproof truck and all of that, you know?

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah, he had the bulletproof. Let's talk about that. P had the bulletproof truck with the ham on him going down the one way. I think he was trying to get the Alchemist condo right there on. By Madison Square Garden.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yup, yup.

[Interviewer / Host]

So what was that like? I know Scott Lehman was furious. Probably shout out to Scott Lehman.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

That was crazy, because I already did.

[Interviewer / Host]

You had a bulletproof truck, too?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Nah, nah, I passed on that. I was like, you know what I'm saying? That was a lot of money. Money.

[Interviewer / Host]

I always said, why him? Why P had the hammer and the bulletproof truck? Well, it makes sense.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

He was like that. You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Throw some back.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, he was like that. So, you know, he. He got the. He. He got the. The bulletproof truck. He's like, you'll have. You want to get one? I was like, nah, nah, I'm good. Whatever. So. But Pete always kept a ham on him. You know what I'm saying? And.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah, what was the. What. What was the first one of the singles with 50? Remember? We were shooting a video in LA. Do you remember that? What was that?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

That was the one with Buck was on there. Give it to me, baby don't play games.

[Interviewer / Host]

Nah, there was one. Y' all shot in LA. That wasn't it. Y' all had 50. Forgot what it was. Was it? No, I was. I was.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I think I wasn't out of control because out of control was in New York.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah, I think I missed that one.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Out of control.

[Interviewer / Host]

It was one y' all did in la. I'm trying to think, what video was it? Because I never forget that. You remember when. Rest in peace, my man. Pretty shy. The girl came on set for the video with the baby. You remember that? Nah, she was like shot. Where are you? I got your baby. That was crazy. Back in the days, it was y' all video Shoot with 50. I remember that.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I don't remember what song was. Because we did so many. You know what I mean? Those videos, man, you just had to be there. It was just so crazy.

[Interviewer / Host]

Historic moments. Anger management.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Do you remember that time when we was performing? Because we used to come out during like the middle of the performance.

[Interviewer / Host]

Did you fall through the stage?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yes, it was a hole.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah, you fell through the stage.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Hell, yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

That was. That was Detroit. Detroit was the Lion Stadium. Yeah, Lion Stadium.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Always talk about.

[Interviewer / Host]

Y' all always talk about that. What was y' all doing? Quiet. What was y' all doing?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I forgot what's.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yo. Everybody was like, yo, where the is havoc? Y' all was doing some for my life. I think it was Quiet Storm. I put lifestyle table lines. Y' all was doing Quiet Storm.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Oh, God.

[Interviewer / Host]

And Prodigy was up there. Half was up there. We turned around, we on stage and was like. Like, yo, where the is Havoc? And the fell through the black box. The Eminem come up in. Yeah, he fell through. That was like.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

That was scary. I could have died. Yo, that was son. My. The. The square was big. So we performing and somebody was like trying to wave, like, yo. And the next thing you know. And you know what? That was the time.

[Interviewer / Host]

Lion Stadium.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

That was the time when I said, yo, let me chill from drinking. You know what I'm saying? I said, let me chill for drinking. So I ain't drink like in three days. And I fell through that and I caught myself. I was holding like I'm hanging off a cliff.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

And you would have been done.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It's over.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Done.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

It's over.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yo was like, yo, where the is happening? Imagine they perform in Lion Stadium because they would 50 and Eminem was doing stadiums, not even arenas.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, it was crazy.

[Interviewer / Host]

It was Lion Stadium. It was a big ass stage. I'm gonna be on stage and like, yo, we'll have it go. You ain't a crook, son. Is Havoc. Yo, he fell through the man fell through the barrier. Those are good times on anger management, man. Tour was best tour of my life.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I was on.

[Interviewer / Host]

I was on fed parole and state pro and state parole, and they let me go on that tour. Shout out to the lawyers 50 got for us. I think it was Al Heyman, you know, I mean, the lawyers was always good. Let us travel. Look at that, you know what I'm saying? I just, I just couldn't be on a bus with the gangsters. I was on 50 bus. Violins, caviar. They didn't want me around the felon bus, you know? Mob Deep. Mlp.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah. You couldn't be on that one?

[Interviewer / Host]

No, I couldn't be on that. Thanks, everybody. Olivia.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

That she was fired. That she was fire.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

What you think about the whole hip hop game now, though? What you think about the state of hip hop, as they would say?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

I mean, you know what I'm saying? It changed, but you know what I'm saying? I'm not mad at it, you know what I mean? I always knew eventually that gonna change, you know what I'm saying? And I would be of the older generation and they'll probably make some shit that I don't understand, you know what I mean? But me being a music person, I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying, for what they doing, however they doing it, even if it's not some shit that I would make. And I just, I always say it like this too. I ain't like everything in the fucking 90s, you know what I'm saying? So I ain't gonna like everything now, you know what I mean? So. But there's some shit out there that I do like. So I, you know, I ain't mad at the state of hip hop. It's different because of technology, you know what I'm saying? Anybody and their moms could put out a song. So, you know, I just try to focus on quality, you know what I mean?

[Interviewer / Host]

Now this is the number one question. Is we getting another Mob Deep album? Because I know prodigy has like 2 million verses.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer / Host]

You know, I really miss.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Word up. Shout out to aoc. I, I, I want to put out another Mob Deep album. I ain't gonna lie, you know what I'm saying? Because I. Because you know why? Because I have fun doing it, you know what I'm saying? Even before the album came out, just to, you know, take Prodigy's vocals, listen to it and put.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Figuring out how to put it together,

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

you know what I'm saying? And just put it together. Like a puzzle. It's like a. A. It's a challenge for me. You know what I'm saying? And I would. I would definitely love to do.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Do y' all have some more verses?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Oh, absolutely.

[Interviewer / Host]

Prodigy wrote, like, Tupac, man. He got like 10, 000 songs in the book, but you got him an alchemist.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Alchemist got some verses.

[Interviewer / Host]

Talk about the album, because for the album, my favorite song was you, Nas and Porter, Henny.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, Paul Henning. The album's just one of those things.

[Interviewer / Host]

Nah, we.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Now we ain't do a video for that one. We love the way. Oh, that's what you talking about.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yeah, that one. I feel like. I feel like even. Like the kids gravitated to that one record.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah, you know, that was the younger generation. That was one of them records that just came together, you know what I mean? We got Georgia Smith on there, you know what I'm saying? Nas was on there, P on there. And, you know, even though it's like a record for the shorties, it's like, you know what I mean? Everybody could relate to it, you know what I'm saying? Everybody could relate to it, you know what I'm saying? I really love the record. I. I appreciate it. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer / Host]

So you think for this year, next year, we might get another mall?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know, I'm hoping by the end of this, this year, maybe.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Okay, that sounds good.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

RIP Prodigy forever.

[Interviewer / Host]

Yes.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Shout out to his daughter Tasia.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Definitely.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Shout out. Shout out. You know, his wife Kiki.

[Interviewer / Host]

Shout out, Kiki.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Yeah. Shout out to Kiki and Tasia and the sun. You know what I'm saying? Little. Little P to P's moms. Fatima Johnson, beautiful lady. She. She helped us from the. From the beginning.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Definitely, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know what I mean? And. And. And rip to P grandmas, because she the one that bought us the equipment for me to even make beats.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Look at that, man.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

She paid it forward.

[Interviewer / Host]

Crazy. That's. You told us some deep, man. Everything is a pause.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

So if you say Bob Deep, that's pause, too.

[Interviewer / Host]

N M Deep is cool, right?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Okay. All right.

[Interviewer / Host]

No, it's not a force.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

It's not thinking about that one.

[Interviewer / Host]

We got Mob deep in the building. Rest in peace, Prodigy. We got havoc in the building. What's the name of the album again?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Infinite Album. If you don't got it.

[Interviewer / Host]

If you don't got it, it's out now. Infinite out. Make sure y' all go cop that. Recipes to Prodigy. Shout this family condolences. To everybody and we out of here. It's the real report. Make sure y' all like share and subscribe. Yeah, Fried rice. What else they got over there, man?

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

So good old Chopper.

[Interviewer / Host]

Okay, okay. Courtesy of Top House.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

We're gonna buy

[Interviewer / Host]

going on. Appreciate y' all coming to the show, man. Brook was one of New York's finest. We need to die at party. Appreciate you coming through.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Oh, baby.

[Interviewer / Host]

Oh, baby. Chop took care of us today, baby. Love you guys. When Brooklyn Chop coming deliver. You know you got the juice now, boy. I know. Don't worry. Somebody's going home with me too.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

What's this? Tasty.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

She like berries.

[Interviewer / Host]

Okay. With the bud and the licks. Shout out to Nathan Nation's cannabis too. You heard good Smoke me and Burs come. They bring gifts. We know Checkhouse New York City.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

You know what it is, man.

[Interviewer / Host]

Ain't y' all open this somewhere else too?

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

Yeah, we just open Miami Abu Dhabi.

[Interviewer / Host]

Oh.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Bad or not.

[Interviewer / Host]

As. Danny Thanksgiving cannabis. You know how we heal, baby. It's the real report. It's fresh. But I too get his knife eating here.

[Uncle Murda (AKA L Jelly)]

I'm proud of y', all.

[Havoc (Mobb Deep Member)]

Earl.

[Interviewer / Host]

Nah. Go love him, dad. They're proud of you, my brother. You're never gonna lose.

[Podcast Host]

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