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Chef G
Then she says, have you seen a
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Uncle Murder
And I'm like, who is this person?
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White
How did it feel? How did it feel hanging out with Trump for a minute, Chef?
Chef G
It made me feel. All I was thinking about was like, I remember when I was a kid flipping through the history books and I'm looking at the pictures, I'm like, yeah, that's what I'm about to be. I'mma be in the history books, boys.
Uncle Murder
You looking at it like, yo, they got these niggas for shooting up. And this nigga's next to Trump doing a dance.
White
He didn't get stabbed.
Uncle Murder
Shut the up.
Chef G
Okay, Movies with. Thank you for using Securus.
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Uncle Murder
Yes. The Real Report Jail series.
White
Yeah, we got Chef G. Free Chef
Uncle Murder
G. One of the biggest in the game. Y' all. Make some noise for Chef G in the fucking world. In, man.
White
Whoa, whoa.
Uncle Murder
Yo, Chef, man, you know, I gotta start off, man. You know, not a lot of niggas could, you know, send a girl 100,000 on the street. Give 100,000 the street. Shout to your baby. You sent your lady 100,000 from the pins. That's how we know you really rich. You and Sleepy Hollow winning team. Y' all the fucking richest out. Tell us about that, man. Talk about that.
Chef G
Yo, you know what's crazy, though? Because that guy born. So let me paint this story for y' all so y' all can understand. So, boom. I'm chilling. Me and the bros, you feel? Me and the bros, we breaking on this meal. I'm. I'm in the can. We breaking this million out or whatever. We breaking this down. And I'm listening to a song. Guess what song I'm listening to, though, bro. Listening to. I'm listening to. I'll give money. Guess what part come up.
White
What's that?
Chef G
That's it. Now I'm motivated, you heard? I'm motivated at the highest level. The bro's not hot, kid. You heard I missed the movie Matrix. You heard. So now I'm like, you know what it man? I like your lizzle, man.
White
Shout out to white.
Uncle Murder
I also seen you buy a chain, man. Talk about the chain you bought in jail, too.
Chef G
Oh, yeah, that's a fact. I just spent 230 on the chain. Oh, God.
Uncle Murder
Hold up.
White
You said you spent 230 on the chain.
Chef G
230 on the chain. Oh, God.
White
God damn.
Chef G
Oh, God.
White
Oh, you acting crazy.
Chef G
The G man is Chef G, AKA the G man.
Uncle Murder
The G man is the so, so Chef, what's next? Are you. Are you gonna buy a Ferrari in jail, man?
Charlamagne Tha God
What's next?
Chef G
You know what's crazy, though? On some real. I was really thinking about getting the. The pura sangu, the purasangi. I don't know how you even pronounce it right. You know, we in here reading the Dupont registry. We seen all this matrix. New cars, you see, for me, gotta get the antics. You heard.
Uncle Murder
Definitely the answer.
White
Know what spot they got you in right now, Chef?
Chef G
Yo, I'm in governor, son. I'm all the way up, up, up. You heard? Oh, man. Oh, man, that's a fact.
Uncle Murder
What you. What you think about this P? These P. Rappers not on PC list. I. You know, I'm glad I wasn't on there. Shout to Booy. We gotta make a new one. We gotta new one because we know you're not in PC.
Chef G
Are you crazy?
White
Been knocking out. Don't play.
Uncle Murder
You never been in PC. We know that. Sh. Sleepy, too. We know that. Nobody 100%.
Chef G
100% never, ever PC material. You heard?
Uncle Murder
We gonna make a list for this episode, Chef G. Sleepy Hollow. Yeah, we gonna make that list.
White
The new list.
Uncle Murder
We gonna make the new list. Are you writing up in there, Chef? You writing in there or what?
Chef G
I'll be. I'll be writing, but then I think don't be writing. Cause I don't really be on rapid time in here, bro. But you feel when I call home.
White
Yeah.
Chef G
And I call the town, and I speak to the dog, and I speak to you. Feel me? Then they remind me like, all right, listen, look, you gotta be on this time. And I'm like, all right, y'. All right. I don't want to. You feel me? But most of the time, I'll be just. I'll be just chilling. I'll be. I'm in school. Matter of fact, you heard I'm getting a G.D. you heard?
White
Oh, Chef G in school. Y' all heard that? Chef G in school. Gangsters elevated now. It's all good.
Uncle Murder
What made you want to do that, Chef? What made you want to go? I mean, you.
Chef G
College course.
Uncle Murder
I mean, you already rich already. You know what I mean? So it's like, what made you want to go to school? Like, right now, I got.
Chef G
Hey, yo, I gotta work better on my math, man. I gotta be able to add it up.
White
Got you. I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at that, man.
Chef G
That's a fact. Percentages. Yeah.
White
I ain't Bad at that. What's your plans? What's your plans when you come home,
Chef G
man, I ain't gonna lie on our tv. When I touch down, the plan is to go all the way up. You feel me? Now I'm gonna be able, finally to just really be able to, like, live and just travel and just enjoy the success, you heard? Like, I know they be seeing me. They'd be seeing me go crazy on the crib, you know, showing thread, you know, buying citizenship. But it's like, yo, bro, I came from nothing, bro. You feel me? So it's not like we showing off. We just. That's showing the success. Like, we showing, like, yo, look, this is what we came from. And look what we doing now. When I come home, I'm gonna be able to go crazy, bro. I can't wait.
Uncle Murder
Now, let me ask you a question. You making all the money in the world. I know White is always mad when you and sleep go to jail. He always complaining because there's no rappers out here in New York that's holding it down. Like, y', all, besides, like, a boogie and a couple of other. So what are the steps you take to, like, stay out of trouble? You know what I'm saying? Like, what. What. What's. What's that?
White
Don't know how to stay out of trouble, man.
Uncle Murder
Nah. What's the steps?
Chef G
Look, look, I bailed out 1.5 in 2023. No, no, 2024. I bailed out from that time to the time I came back in jail. It was no problems at all. I came home, the whole New York love me. Everybody loved. It was love. You heard? I'm in the clubs everywhere. You heard? I'm with everybody. Every hood everywhere, everything lit. They don't turn the whole city up. You heard? Respectfully, everybody get a piece. What you want? You get a car. You get a car.
White
That's right. That's right.
Chef G
You spread a love when the circle. Spreading love, for real. That's how you stay out of trouble, man. You feel me? Do some love. Stay out of trouble.
Uncle Murder
Yo, since you helped Brooklyn Drill sound, what you think about the. The drill sound? The drill. The drill sound right now going on in New York City.
Chef G
The drill sound right now, as of right now, I feel like. I feel like it's always going to be, like, different elevations of it. You feel me? Or different versions of it, you heard? Like, because it went from using the UK beats to now using, like, the. The Jersey drill type beats, and now with the sexy drill, you feel me? So it's like, it's just always gonna be a different version, and it's just depending on who brings it out to really stand on that, stamp on that. With the time when I first came out, 2017, and. And we using the UK beats, we stood out. And that's why we still, for me, doing what we doing now, we elevated in the music. Of course, you know, it's a different type of sounds, but that will forever be the official standard, you know what I'm saying? They always gonna remember me for that, for sure. I feel like it's gonna keep, you know, elevating and just keep going different ways.
Uncle Murder
I know you got a lot. We got. We got some music coming out. Because I know you got, like, 10 albums, 20 albums in the cut.
Chef G
Oh, 100. 100. I ain't go front. Like, it's crazy, because before I used to record music, right? And I used to just do, like, two songs or one song a day, a night, right? Until recently when I was in the school and growing, that was talking. I was like, yo, listen, bro, y' all gotta really prepare and prepare. So now we going in the studio making five, six songs a night, seven songs a night. I never did that before, bro. So now I see that that really paid off, because now look. Look at the predicament I'm in. But I'm still able to drop all this music. I got music to last me until I come home. You know what I'm saying? And after, you know what I'm saying? So it's always good to keep working for me, That's.
White
That Tupac work right there, and me and you got a smoker. I'm about to drop two Narcos producers.
Uncle Murder
Tell Black Sam clear that Nipsey record. Yo. Black Sam, clear that Nipsey Chef, because that's not. Yo, cuz, you know what? That's not just drill music. That's classic music. That's what I like about Sleepy and Chef. They don't only just make one kind of music. They make hit music.
White
Definitely.
Uncle Murder
Even, like, with the verses, with the. The song with Fifth was crazy.
White
No, it was.
Uncle Murder
You know, if they were to do the videos, you know, that should be crazy. I know Fifth would, you know, spend money. They got the AI shout out to y' all on that one. But, like, yo, I heard the record with. With Nipsey Hustle. Talk about that, man. Black Sam, you clear that. Please, man. Shout out to Marathon Burger, man.
Chef G
First. First of all, you know, RP Nip. You feel me?
White
Definitely.
Chef G
I remember when we started Going. I forgot exactly what year it was. I think it was 1817 or 1819, whatever. You feel me? But they had showed us a video, and he was. He was bumping one of our songs. The song was Panic.
White
You heard, oh, look at that.
Chef G
Yeah. He was in the car pumping the music. So we, like, what the what? Didn't know about our music. So now we start reaching out, like, what's up? Just try to get this intact for me. And then Germ, my son Germ, shout
White
out to German, shout out to John,
Chef G
who end up plugging us in. And then we all started chopping it up, and then that's how we got, you know, everything done.
White
And, yeah, that record need to come out, man. That record need to come out.
Uncle Murder
Rest in peace, Nip.
White
Man. That record, definitely.
Uncle Murder
So, yo, what's. What's it. What's the typical. Yo, what's a typical day in the pen, man? Like, you work out in the morning. Like, what. What you do? Like, get stabbed every day. Like, what's going on in there?
Chef G
Hey, yo, look. So I was in a different spot. You heard the spot before was the Matrix. The Matrix is every day you wake up is lit you. Every single day.
Uncle Murder
Every day was lit in there. What. What's the last spot you was in?
Chef G
That was mossy. You could search up Mossy.
Uncle Murder
Kids, stay out of jail. Stay out of prison. Because he's not in. He's not in jail. He's in prison. Riker Allen's jail, where he at? Prison I'm in now.
Chef G
I work out every spot I go to, though. I was. I was working out over there.
Uncle Murder
I'm telling you now we see the pics, you know, you got your weight up. I ain't gonna hold you.
Chef G
You know.
Uncle Murder
Heard you knocked a couple of people out on the island. You know what I'm saying? This is what the jail series is about. That we want you on the outside. We need all our good rappers. That's in jail like you sleep, K Flock. We. We need niggas that changing the game to be out of jail.
White
Definitely, man.
Uncle Murder
You know what I'm saying?
Chef G
100.
White
What's up, chef? You gon wars from the pair.
Chef G
Yeah, they would have started up money wars.
White
They gonna start money wars up from the kid.
Chef G
20, 26. What we doing? That was a lit time in the city, though. Like, you gotta understand, bro. Like, for me, that everybody talking. They. Everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The young boys was turned up as New York. We look good. Like, it's us. What we doing?
White
Definitely, definitely.
Chef G
That Shoe was lit, definitely.
Uncle Murder
It's crazy, because I was telling Merc, I'm like, yo, the average rapper really don't want to be in PC because he. It's left you with the police all day. You with, you know, pedophiles. But people think like, yo, there's always, like, a line where people.
Chef G
You know what's crazy, though? There's no such thing up here in the States. There's no such thing as PC. You can't hide, because if you sign in, that just means you go to a different spot. You're gonna go to a different spot every time. You're not gonna be hiding. There ain't no box for you, ain't no PC for you. They send you to another compound. You have to face the music over there. You understand? It's quiet.
Uncle Murder
You gotta face the music. Oh, there ain't no PC. They put you in somewhere, like.
Chef G
Nah, not upstate. I'm State. This. You facing the music. You heard, you know, hiding up here say who you are. You gonna face that music. That's a fact.
White
Yeah, so we got to remix that list, man.
Uncle Murder
That's why when you go to prison. No. Make sure you know how to fight like Chef G, y'. All. Because I'm telling you, he already said. He said Marcy was the Matrix.
Chef G
Hey, I was in Bear Hill. Bear Hill is the Matrix, Marcy, the Matrix. I was in Green Haven. I was at every spot.
Uncle Murder
Green Haven was the Matrix, too.
Chef G
Yeah. Green Haven was the Matrix. All the spots.
Uncle Murder
When he mean Matrix, people, he mean every day is lit Somebody getting cut for breakf. Breakfast. Stabbed in the yard. Kicking a sword out the ground in the yard. This is what he mean by the Matrix. So kids, stay out the pen. Cause this guy is a millionaire in the pens. He spent a hundred thousand on his girl from the pens. Can't do that in the streets.
White
Yo, Chef, you think you getting married in jail? Yeah.
Uncle Murder
I don't know.
White
I mean, all the stuff you be doing. I'm just trying to figure it out. You know what I mean?
Chef G
What, you think that's against the religion right now?
White
Okay. That's against the religious.
Uncle Murder
Chef.
Chef G
Yeah.
Uncle Murder
Yo, Free man. Free. My man, Chef G, man. He's doing his thing right now, the music. We definitely need all these new records. We need you out, man. They need to give you that time back. How you feel about that? I know you're holding your head and everything, but that's kind of weird to me. Like, you're not getting.
White
I know you was expecting one thing. Yeah. Then A whole nother thing happened, man. Speak on that a little bit.
Chef G
Yeah, bro, that was like a 48. Like, you know, they had me believing one thing. I go in front of the judge and I was some next to you. For me, it's like. It's like, damn. You know, even still now, I'm always working on trying to get that fixed, but it's like, God forbid it don't get fixed. Ain't too much I can do about that. You feel me? From. From where I'm at, you know what I'm saying? We did that. So it's like, you just gotta look at the time you got and then, you know, face it like that.
Uncle Murder
So between, you know, how I looked at it, I looked at it when and shout to you and, you know, sleep. When y' all was with Donald Trump, I look at it like, you know, you got these guys. These guys are shooting. These guys are shooting people. What the hell are they doing with Trump? They come to court, they gonna get pardoned. I felt like the Trump shit was a little reason for that. I'm just keeping it real.
Chef G
That's what you thought.
Uncle Murder
I mean, outside looking in. Because I look at it as politics. Like, all right, who the these guys think they are? You know, they're eating dinners because. Because, you know, everything is always exaggerated. You know what I'm saying?
White
Yeah, yeah.
Uncle Murder
Everything is over exaggerated. Eating.
White
They got a lot of hate. It was 50, 50 love.
Uncle Murder
Come on, man.
White
Tried to hate on them for. With Trump and all that.
Uncle Murder
Yeah, it's 50, 50 love. Cause, you know, radio was mad hot. 97. A couple of places was mad. But for me, I felt like, if I'm a judge, right? You put myself in a judge. You got this nigga making all his fucking money, right? He's next to Trump, he might can get a pardon. Fuck this nigga Tom. He got in there.
White
That's probably how they look.
Uncle Murder
I mean, just think about it as a judge thinking that they looking like, yo, this nigga next to Donald Trump.
White
How did it feel? How did it feel hanging out with Trump for a minute, Chef?
Chef G
It made me feel. All I was thinking about was like, I remember when I was a kid flipping through the history books and I'm looking at the pictures, I'm like, yeah, that's where I'm about to be. I'mma be in the history books, boys.
Uncle Murder
You looking at it like, yo, they got these niggas for shooting up, and this nigga's next to Trump doing a dance 10 years from now, 20 years
Chef G
from now, they gonna open the history books in school. They gonna be like, who's that? Yeah, that was rap Chef g. Yeah, he's 30, look.
White
Yeah, y' all was one of the first ones to be hanging out with Trump, too, man. You know what I'm saying? On the whole new thing, man.
Uncle Murder
Yeah. Yo, y' all be on time. And y' all was with Trump, and that was crazy. And the. There. And shout out to Sleepy, too, cuz. He like Sleepy. I never heard him say two words. Then he said what he said that day. We gotta play that footage. Make sure you find that footage. Sleepy said like, yo, yeah, Trump, he
White
said a couple of words. My boy Sleep said a couple.
Uncle Murder
Don't talk. He's straight. Gangster time all the time.
White
He said a couple of words.
Uncle Murder
He said that. Partying on the island, doing the Trump dance. Come on. He'd be home soon. So we. We. We good. He be home soon. We need that interview. When sleep. When sleep hit, you know? But y' all come on, man. Y' all the dynamic duo, man. Y' all like what y' all do for New York City. The void is there. We miss y', all, man. You know what I'm saying? And that's what these jail series is like to see, you know, what's going on in there. Like you said, I'm glad you're not in the Matrix, because you just said using the Matrix three times.
White
He can handle the Matrix, though.
Uncle Murder
Oh, no, I know that. I mean, we know that. But what I'm saying is glad he ain't in there. Just wake up. Of course, just my little stint on the island just, you know, waking up smelling other nigga shit. Nigga fighting with his girl. He has money. Look, the thing is, people know he's going home to something.
White
Yeah.
Uncle Murder
Cause his times come on. He got short. His time's shorter than anything. That shit ain't about nothing. We gonna turn around. He gonna be home.
White
Yeah.
Chef G
Set.
White
Be here in a hot minute.
Uncle Murder
So for me, it's like he's a person. He knows he's a target. Like, when you a rapper and you decide not to be in PC, you know you a target, so you really gotta be on it.
White
Yeah, yeah.
Chef G
But, yo, you hear me The. The question? I. It's like, I always think about it like this. How could you think you could be more dangerous than they go with everything? That wouldn't make sense. You can't be more dangerous than that.
Uncle Murder
That is true.
White
Some people say sometimes a with nothing feel like he more dangerous because he Ain't got nothing to lose.
Uncle Murder
I mean, you gotta think.
White
That's how. That's how a person think sometimes.
Uncle Murder
You gotta think hypothetically how you gonna
Chef G
be more dangerous than that.
White
I know what you said. Something. I got. I get busy myself and I put that bag on you. Stop playing with me.
Uncle Murder
Hypothetical. Hypothetically. Hypothetically. Hypothetically.
White
I know what you're saying, sir.
Uncle Murder
I know what you said, you know, hypothetically. 10.
White
Allegedly. Allegedly. I'm dangerous and my money dangerous.
Uncle Murder
What's up? Allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah, you know, I know hypothetically because we know a could get stabbed for 10 soups in there. So everything is hypothetical, you know what I mean? So stay out of prison, y'. All, and stay out of jail. They don't understand for like, you and sleep. It's a vacation. Like, sleepy. I see him on Rikers, you know, it's a vacation. It's you a vacation, you know?
Chef G
It's crazy though. You see everybody in here and everybody want to go home. And I was like, want to go home more than ever. Because now you got so much going on in the town. That's that they can see is going on.
White
Jail is whack, man.
Chef G
But they now they start to realize, like, every time I came back to jail and I see certain things I see since I was like 16, 17, they still here. So they would tell me like, damn, bro. Like, I was just watching you on the tv. You feel me? And I'll be like, damn, again, this shit real. You feel me? Now everybody trying to get home. Everybody trying to get home. Nobody want to stay up in this shit.
Uncle Murder
You gonna see the light. But this is another question I asked you. Cause I remember rest in peace to Maserati Fox from Queens. He was a nigga that turned like a one year bid into seven year bids. Just getting it on, getting it shaking. Cut niggas, how do you keep your time, you know, cut? Like, how do you. You know what I'm saying? How do you keep the balance of that, like. Cause I know, I know when you in there, you can't think about the time. Yo, I only got four years, three years. That ain't nothing to nobody, you know what I'm saying?
Chef G
That ain't nothing. Everybody certain n got more time than others. So everybody time to you to like another nigga. My time right now be like, yo, that ain't shit. Then you got other like, damn, if I had that time, I'd have been stressed. So everybody does their own time. And everybody gonna feel stressed about the time they do. Whether it's a year or five or 10 or 20, you heard. It's all about how you deal with it, though. And who. Who you with, how you feel me, how you move, who you are as a person, and your reputation. Your reputation is everything. Your name, your word is everything in here. Don't care about nothing else. It's your name and your word, and keep your word, and your name is always sturdy. Then you a sturdy. As soon as your name is tainted and your word is painted, it's quiet. You gonna go through hell. You. You gonna go through a real life hell. Like, real life hell.
Uncle Murder
That's crazy. So how many you knocked out on Rikers? Because I heard you knocked out. Let's get into that. It's the room. Hypothetically. Hypothetical. Yo, what's the. Yo, what's the first thing? I got, like, three things. When. When you come home, like the first day home. Questions. Because you'll be home in a millisecond. Where's the first place you want to go? I know you just had a baby. What did you have a boy or a girl?
Chef G
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not announcing that yet. But you know what's crazy?
White
Oh, good answer.
Uncle Murder
Oh, yeah. I thought you had the baby.
Chef G
So, look, that's my ex now, so now I got another girl. So my first thing I'm doing, I'm getting her pregnant.
Uncle Murder
Oh, yeah.
Chef G
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
White
Oh, yeah. Yo, Chef, you stressing my son white out, man. I just see them shaking his head.
Chef G
Yo, you straight.
White
Yo, you stressing my son white out, man.
Uncle Murder
Hold on, Murt. Let the man talk. NBA youngboy got 10 kids. My man's just starting. Go ahead, man. Got all that money he could do. When you got the money, you could do it if you have the money for the kids. Just don't be a deadbeat. You know what I'm saying? Come on. He just spent the 100,000 in jail, bro.
White
So for the record, the 100,000 that you spent in jail, that's the ex. Now you got a new girl.
Chef G
Yeah, that's my ex. That's my bm. You know what I'm saying?
White
Boy, I tell you, boy, I tell you. Yes.
Chef G
Just clearing it up.
Uncle Murder
So how many Chanel's in How many Chanel's you got her before you broke up with her? Because I'm trying to learn the game. Young rich, huh?
Chef G
You said. You said Chanel.
Uncle Murder
How many Chanel bags did you buy before you broke up with a 10? 20? Because I know. I see you on the gram don't disclose the information.
White
The other people gonna start thinking, is
Uncle Murder
it over three Chanels that you bought both of us?
Chef G
Yo, yo, yo, yo. You gotta think about it like this. You feel me? When you in a relationship, right?
White
Right?
Chef G
And you. You that, right?
Uncle Murder
Yeah.
Chef G
You got a reputation to. To uphold. That's right. You said you are.
White
That's right.
Chef G
So being as you claiming this is what you do now, you gotta show that. Do what you do.
Uncle Murder
For sure.
Chef G
That's me. I don't be scared to do exactly what I want to do. You heard? I'm doing it. They could be playing around. They be playing. They'd be front for the ground. I'm not front. I say I'm doing something, I'm doing it. Lizzie gonna be mad at me later. It doesn't matter. That's the bro. You're gonna love me regardless.
White
It ain't tricking if you got it. It ain't tricking if you got it.
Uncle Murder
So what? So what cars you liking? You liking a Ferrari truck right now? What you liking? What you. Because I know you got some toys already.
Chef G
I'm jacking the purasangi.
White
We have to pull that up.
Uncle Murder
The Ferrari truck. That's what it's called.
Chef G
That's the Ferrari truck.
Uncle Murder
Oh, yeah. That's sexy.
Chef G
Yeah, that paint, that right there. And I know that.
Uncle Murder
What color you want? I see a silver one right now.
Chef G
Like black, black, white. You know what I'm saying? Sturdy, you know what I mean? Probably custom made anyway. I'm probably wrapped that. You know, I think that's just 30.
Uncle Murder
Yo. What, what, what? What artist? Because I know, you know, like I said, I'm always gonna bring up that Nipsey Hussle record. I heard it a while ago. Black saying, please clear it or put it on his album. Nipsey album or put it on your album. But what artists would you want to collab with? Like, because, you know,
Chef G
to be honest, I would really collab with anybody who would, like, be good with me on a song. Because that's what it's about. It's about if we gonna go good together on a song. Not just about the collab, you feel me? Because the Names is going to be sturdy regardless. But are we gonna make a hit? We gonna go platinum? Like, what we doing? You feel me? So it's like, that's who I don't really know. But I'll work with anybody, though. It don't even matter.
Uncle Murder
Can we talk about your goal on platinum records, man? Let the people know, man. How you still getting paid.
Chef G
But the first time I went gold, I was in. I was in the box. I was in Rikers island box. You feel me? I was in the box because allegedly, you know, people was lying on me, talking about, somebody got you, whatever. So I was in the box. You know what I'm saying? Doing my little one, too. And I want to fall asleep and sleep at home. I'm like, yo, sleep. What's going on? You're like, yo, gang, yo, he just went cold. And I'm like, huh? I'm like, what that mean? And he's like, yeah. They talk about his sleep went platinum at that time. You heard people went platinum. Oh. I'm like, yo, what the. I'm like, what this mean? So when he started explaining to me, and I'm happy, I'm screaming on the phone that Sleepy, he's sitting there just like, go. I'm like, yo, bro, why you not celebrating?
White
He'd be so calm. My boy Sleepy so calm.
Uncle Murder
Y' all do 100. Y' all could do 200 million views on YouTube. And Sleepy will be calm. You'll be more excited.
Chef G
I think he went like five times platinum on one song. My son got a billion streams on just one track alone. We got like seven. Seven billion plus streams. This is.
Uncle Murder
Hey, y' all hear that? Seven billion plus plus.
White
Seven billion plus ain't counting.
Chef G
Ain't counting. That's 100 fact. This is. No. You feel me? They can search it up. Research, right?
White
They putting up the numbers.
Chef G
We don't be bragging about it.
White
Yo, how did you feel when. How did y' all feel with Ebro and Hot 97 was trying to hate about the whole Trump. How y' all felt?
Chef G
Awesome. Real awesome. Real. You gotta remember, I just. I just came home from a prison bid, so I learned how to deal with people so good that I didn't even feel no type of way. I understand that. Everybody got their own opinions, and everybody gonna react how they react. So from the time when we chose and we decided to do what we did, I already know people had their own reaction, so that was their reaction. So now when we actually linked up with some of the same people that was mad at us and they seen us and spoke to us personally, one on one, it was a different story.
White
They got to know y'.
Chef G
All.
White
Right, thanks.
Chef G
Yeah, they got to know. So they're like, ah, we understand. I do whatever. You feel me. So it's all love still. It don't even matter. You heard me later. It is what it is.
Uncle Murder
You Gotta look at. And then you gotta look at it like this. When we came out, we had one lane. We only had radio, you know what I'm saying?
White
Now these, these young boys don't need radio.
Uncle Murder
They got 10 lanes. You got tick tock, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. So they got Spotify. The list goes on. Apple Music. The list goes on and on. They got kind of more lanes. So the rest. I'm not saying they didn't respect radio, but you got got some of the biggest artists, like Chef Sleep, NBA, YoungBoy, Tyler, the creator. You don't hear these niggas on radio spinning like that. They right, but they could sell out clubs, sell out arenas, sell out stadiums, you know what I'm saying?
White
And.
Uncle Murder
And get recognition all over the world. Talk about the tour before you left, man.
Chef G
Oh, yeah, we did a tour. We did two different ones with the tour. I remember when we first we went to PlayStation Theater, you heard right? And it was sold out. And it's the first time, like, I'm really back for a minute. So I'm like, all right, let me see. I'll fake nervous, you heard? So I'm like, why am I nervous? It's my show. Like, what's going on here? You heard? I'm nervous to go on the stage. Everybody start bugging. Ain't no word for word, bro. Word for word ain't like that. She was crazy. Even, even that. Rolling Loud. I remember I went to rolling Loud, you know, It'd be like 10,000 plus people. You see whatever. I don't know. I'm seeing these people. I'm like, yo, gang, I can't do it. Just relax. Get in your zone. I'm like, yo, I can't do it. I be sleepy. I be sleepy. You feel me? And sleepy. I couldn't have pull up at the time. I'm tight. I get on the stage, I start going crazy. I get in the zone. I take my shirt off, I threw the shirt in the crowd.
Uncle Murder
I'm in the crowd. It was that adrenaline. I know we know exactly what, what you talking about. Every artist get that adrenaline rush. It's like a high before it's nervous. Be nervous too. No matter. Every show is like nervous and adrenaline mix. You know what I'm saying? Now you in shape. Now you. What the is the workout looking like, man? What y', all, what's going on in the yard?
Chef G
Workout plan, man. This is the workout plan.
Uncle Murder
What's the workout plan?
Chef G
You got through burpees.
Uncle Murder
How many pull ups? How many burpees? Two. Thousand a day. What are you doing?
Chef G
We do 10 down first, then you jog. You do two, three laps, then you do. You do the whole 10 down. Then you do pull ups, push ups and dips in a set, you heard. And that's all you need. Man, I don't even with the weights because the weights blow me up. I'm gonna be mad big. I'm trying to cut down, you know. I'm trying to fit into some. Into some jeans, you see? Two GS just to make it one when I was home.
Uncle Murder
Yeah, the chrome hearts here and all that. Because, you know, you. They not wearing. Nobody's wearing the Mary no more. That. That's talking.
Chef G
Yeah,
White
I was trying to tell. Yeah, Mary.
Uncle Murder
Dad, I know. I've seen these guys as Rick owens out, you know, if he sent his baby mama 100, 000, broke up with her, bought like 20 Chanels.
Chef G
I took two healthy pants. I had to buy both of them. It was just like four or five bands, whatever that cost. I. I teared one down, made them tailor it into one pants, you heard. And they bought the cheese jacket just to. Just to sauce it up.
Uncle Murder
Yeah, that's the whole. They used to do with Biggie in them back in the day. Mad big they got. You gotta buy two.
Chef G
That's.
Uncle Murder
That's what I got the idea for.
White
Look at that.
Chef G
That's what I got the idea.
Uncle Murder
You buy two when you put it together. When you're too big to fit, certain.
Chef G
That's not. That's when you're too rich. Man
White
said, get it right. Not too big, too rich.
Uncle Murder
Like I said, 20 chanellies, 100, 000. And break up, baby.
White
Oh, man.
Uncle Murder
To the next, man,
Chef G
that's some funny.
White
Yo, for that record we got, I'm gonna do an AI video, too. Being at you in the cam, man, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna make sure this come out real dope, though, you heard?
Uncle Murder
Oh, cut off channel series, man. Make sure y' all like, Share. Subscribe. Chef G is the first person on this show. Oh, how we doing? Me and Uncle Murder, we. Come on, man, we can'. Yo, yo, Chef, Even.
White
Welcome back.
Uncle Murder
Yo, even the computer make you feel like it's bad in there to prevent suicide. Sounds scary. That sound like a scary call, brother. I don't want to be in the Matrix, man. That's the new vibe right there.
Chef G
This the Matrix, you heard, man.
Uncle Murder
Yeah, man.
Chef G
You gotta have a strong mental, though. Like, your mental is really more mental than physical, you heard, like, once your mindset it's sturdy. You're gonna be good. It's just like certain lose their mind because they be thinking about so much and they think about the outside so much that they end up losing themselves. And now they start throwing, you know, playing with species, a whole bunch of you feel me? So I watch that happen to mad people, you heard? Especially in the box. In the box. Lose their mind.
Uncle Murder
Bloody toilets, blood, the toilet, all the water. Be everywhere.
Chef G
Yeah. Be wilding. That's a fact.
Uncle Murder
That's crazy, man.
Chef G
It can be buggered. That's an old fact.
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Chef G
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Uncle Murder
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Uncle Murder
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Uncle Murder
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Uncle Murder
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Chef G
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Uncle Murder
I don't know.
Chef G
You meet the. Like the president. You think? I know if the president.
Uncle Murder
You think Canada has a president?
Chef G
You think China has a president? Let's walk through that. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time.
Charlamagne Tha God
What color?
Chef G
I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep, it was a good one. I like that saying.
Uncle Murder
It's an actual Polish saying. It is an actual Polish.
Chef G
Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Uncle Murder
Yes.
Chef G
Which.
Uncle Murder
Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift. Who said that for the first time? I actually. I thought it was. I got that wrong.
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Uncle Murder
The Justice Department through, I think we
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Uncle Murder
So, yo, Chef, we know you went through mad cases, man. Let's keep it real. And. And can you just tell you still young, you and Y N still. You know what I mean? But can you tell the other yns without money how much money it costs for these lawyers? Man,
Chef G
it cost everything, boy. Man, everything costs more. You heard? It's not worth it. Trust me. I'm telling you, boy, cost everything plus more.
Uncle Murder
Yeah. White is shaking his head right now, shaking his head's got 2 million in lawyer fees, man.
White
Yo, what's.
Uncle Murder
What's.
White
What's one thing people on the outside won't understand about jail, Chef.
Chef G
I think. I think they don't understand that this shit is, like. It's like an unpredictable real situation. You feel me? I think they think it's like some. The movies, right? This is real. It's not unpredictable and real and stressful. What if you don't got a good support system? You're gonna lose it mentally gone facts.
Uncle Murder
But some people don't have nobody. So that support system really means something to them, right?
Chef G
Exactly. Exactly. Some don't got nothing. Nobody getting no visits, no packages, no commissary. They can be up for me. They can just be starving.
Uncle Murder
So they'll be like, so somebody up, like. So when somebody's up like that, what. What. What's the best advice, what the I'm gonna do?
Chef G
You could do about that. You feel me? But a like me, like, I come to the spot, right? And like, in the crib, I'm in right now. You feel me? When holiday season come up, I'm making sure. Yo, we ordering turkeys. You feel me? I got the cook. I got the. That's cleaning everything. So a gonna go and make the food. Gonna feed everybody for me. I'm feed this. I'm feed everybody. Everybody's sturdy.
Uncle Murder
Come on, man. You know you're eating like good fellas in there, man.
Chef G
That's another thing I think people don't understand. I'm eating steak. My breakfast contained. You heard this one? My breakfast contains. I'm eating eggs and blueberry waffles with cheese, and, you heard, sometimes drinks. It might be something else.
White
We got to get you some caviar pancakes in there, man. We got to figure out a way to get you.
Uncle Murder
Go ahead. Let's hear the rest of the menu. Let them talk. Let's hear the rest of the menu.
Chef G
Broccoli and mashed potatoes still, you feel me? I got sirloin steak and, like.
Uncle Murder
Oh, so you're not making, like, the jacknack and. And. And, you know, like, you read. You eating real meals up top, yo.
Chef G
Yeah, yo, come on, man. You know what's going on, bro. I'm eating steak every day, bro. I'm eating steak and chicken, bro. I'm not playing with no Jack Mack and Noodles, man. Not eating no soups up here, man. Crazy.
Uncle Murder
Damn. My bad. That's for the poor people like me, man.
White
You know what I want to know, Chef Shop. Yo, yo, chef, you want to get. Yo, Chef, you know what? I want to know something that all the rappers be doing, right? I'm curious. Is you gonna make a first day out wrecking when you come home?
Uncle Murder
Of course.
Chef G
I ain't gonna front the kid. I can't. I really got towards this. It's not my first day out. This is. It's like the third time out. Fourth time.
Uncle Murder
I mean, yo, look, Gucci. Yo, look, Gucci, look. You like Gucci mane? Cause Gucci man, if you look. How many Gucci man got about two. He got about four or five first day outs.
Chef G
Yeah, I'm sturdy. I'm sturdy.
Uncle Murder
Yeah, we need. Yo, listen, we need that first day. Our record, it's like from you and sleep. We need that. Might need that word that got dropping 24 hours.
White
Yeah, we might need that done. We might need that.
Uncle Murder
I ain't gonna lie. I would love to hear you with a record with Shiesty. That's a. I could hear y' all with Shiesty. NBA young boy.
White
That would be dope. We speaking into existence.
Uncle Murder
Hey, Boogie, I could see y' all doing a lot of features with a lot of people.
Chef G
Yeah, that's a fact.
Uncle Murder
I could even see, you know, because you could say Sleepy had a record with Doshi anyway already. Yeah, so it's like, I could see y' all doing another one with Doshi. Shout out to tde. Like, there's a lot of big artists I could see y' all working with. Cause y' all got hit records that actually stream, stream. Yo, how many? How many? First day out? Scoochie got two. All right. Murder was right. He got two. You sure it wasn't three? Cause it was a list. I could have sworn.
White
I think it was two he had. Maybe two was on the top list. He might have had more, though. You might be right.
Uncle Murder
What rappers locked up right now? We got Tory, Wyan, Melly, Sheff, Sleep. Who else?
White
Casanova.
Uncle Murder
Casanova. Cause we gonna be doing this jail series, man, and tapping in. Cause people gotta understand it's a whole nother world. You wake up in a whole nother world than us. You know what I'm saying? And when you have money, you don't feel like it's worse because you could buy anything you want, right? You could go to Jacob the Jeweler and buy a watch for a half a million dollars right now. Like, but you. You in there. You not out here. That's why I say, like, what you gonna do different? Cause it's like, I'll be looking at you in sleep. Like, y' all never get to enjoy the money.
Chef G
Yeah, facts, bro. That's like. Once this bit is done, it's over. It's over after. This is now straight enjoyment. Now we can take trips and really go places.
Uncle Murder
Like, you know, I never really been nowhere.
Chef G
I never really been nowhere. I found this place, it was like Puerto Rico, you know?
Uncle Murder
Yeah. You got all that money, you ain't been to Dubai.
White
We was turned up in Puerto Rico, though. That shit was live. We was out there turnt up. We was turnt up. We was turnt up. I don't know where that trip.
Uncle Murder
Cause this is how I see it logistically, right? When you. I done seen you in all the strip clubs. Heavens starless strout to strike. Shout out to Atlantis. And I see you throwing. Oh, God. I think y' all didn't y' all do something with G herbo in there? I don't did. You heard one. The record came out. Did it come out? It came out.
Chef G
No, it didn't come out yet. It didn't come out yet.
Uncle Murder
Shout out to G herbo. That's. That's another one. That's hot. The record with G herbo and you know, the room in heavens.
White
I got some with future too. My guys got some shit.
Uncle Murder
I didn't know that. See, but listen, the rumor was y' all did like 50 to 100,000 in this and y' all it up like, for me, I'm looking at it. Do you ever look at it like, damn, I threw all this money in the club. Which is nothing wrong with shoutout strip clubs. But you could have been in like, the burge in Dubai for that money. You could have been like eight star hotel.
Chef G
Like, you gotta be saying that. Like, people be telling me that. You know what I'm saying? The same be spending out here, like, over there. Do something else. Let's like, yo, bro, there's no place like home, though, bro. You feel me? Like, this is. This is where it's at though, gang. This way you only as good as your last performance. You heard?
Uncle Murder
Oh, I definitely know that.
Chef G
You feel me? So it's like, yo, we gonna step out, we gonna perform every trip. The last memory you gonna have. Like, yeah, this was bugging every trip. Yeah, he was bugging. He was bugging. Yeah, you got them right. Always bugging. It's a movie. That's a fact. You gotta leave a statement everywhere you go.
White
You man turned down for what real.
Uncle Murder
That was your lady in the video that jumped on you in the video that Video. It was a video you was wilding out.
White
The last one, I think. The last one, yeah, put out.
Uncle Murder
It was like, one of your last videos. I know you was. I know you was wilding in that video.
White
He said, don't talk to me about nobody I'm not with no more, man.
Uncle Murder
Listen, I'm just talking about the video.
Chef G
It was scripted. That was just scripted work.
Uncle Murder
For sure, man.
White
Good answer, Chef. Good answer. He said, man, that was scripted.
Uncle Murder
Yo, Chef, you ever think about writing a book while you in there or getting into some movies? I don't know if white is. I know white is the type of guy. Well, that'll tell you something like that. So I just was wondering if, like, in your time writing a book about your life.
Chef G
I never thought about writing a book, but I did think about, like, having a. Having a movie done about. About, like, my whole life and every situation. For me, that would be. That would be sturdy, definitely about the
White
whole case that y' all just went through and all that, man.
Chef G
Everything, facts, making a movie.
White
Start writing. Start right? You got a little bit of time on your hands. Start writing.
Chef G
I might just do that. I might do that.
Uncle Murder
I mean, you do. You do got 50 cent that love you and love your music. So, I mean, that's perfect. You got a book, your script, and then you got. And then you got some of the guys in there that, you know, got some of the most amazing stories, you know what I'm saying? In there. That's not coming home. That got stories for days, you know what I'm saying? They could tell you, bro. So it's. It's a lot of gems you get in there, too. You know what I mean?
Chef G
That's a fact. I don't know. I might think about it, man. I don't really know, man.
Uncle Murder
I'm telling you, man, that's definitely something.
Chef G
That could be, like, day two, though.
Uncle Murder
A book. Come on, bro. Like, no, no, no. Young. Young artists is thinking like that right now to come out, write a book. I will buy that, and I think the younger generation will buy it, too. And then if you get into the movies, it'll be dope, too, because I could see you in sleep. Definitely acting sleep. He just had one or two lines. Just kill a. And you just get a od. You know what I'm saying? Cause you know how you get you the wild one, huh?
Chef G
Movies, I think, like, rp. My son popped that movie poppers. And I think we would have. We would have probably been in that movie, too. They used our song like, they used my song instead. But I was fighting the case at the time, so they. They didn't put me in the movie, but I think I was supposed to be in the movie.
White
Oh, look at that.
Chef G
I would have been in that, too.
White
Look at that. Look at that.
Chef G
And that's a fact.
White
Rest in peace, Pop Smoke. We just had his moms and brother up here, too.
Uncle Murder
Definitely recipes.
White
Yeah, definitely, man.
Chef G
Keep my son name alive.
Uncle Murder
Definitely.
White
You and Pop Smoke got some unreleased records people don't even know about. All type of. So much politics.
Uncle Murder
Yeah, of course, man. Yo, we gotta clear that. Steve. Victor.
White
Steve, man.
Uncle Murder
Yeah, Steve. Yeah, whatever you gotta. Or Mama Smoke. We gotta clear that.
Chef G
Yo, that Pop told me, right? The last time I was with him in the stoop, it was me, him sleepy. Polo G had pulled up using quads and for me. So I'm chopping it up with him, and he told me he, like, yo, bro, like, made it, like, feel me? Like, we immortal. Like. Like, you feel me? Like, we did it already. They gonna remember us forever. We chopping it up. Then after that, you feel me? He ended up passing away. And so I was like, damn. But we just talking about, like, this type of. Like, I was just telling him certain shit. He telling me. I went. I got. I got immortality pattern on my face. On the side of my face after that.
White
Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
Uncle Murder
It's crazy. You got records with Pop Smoke, Nipsey Hussle, the list goes on and on. You did something with Polo G, too.
White
I heard that Chef J, Polo G just went gold.
Charlamagne Tha God
You did.
Chef G
Stop playing with us.
Uncle Murder
Come on, man. It's the winning team, man.
White
That's why he buying all that from jail, because records is just going gold and stuff like that. So that's why he buy new chains and sending the bag out.
Uncle Murder
No, I mean, it feels good. Cause you got family. You got a sister, you got, you know, your mom. You got, you know, a lot of people in your family. And I know it feels good that, you know, he could still send the money. Of course, you know, he could. Yo, you need your sister? Need 50,000. I done seen you buy Hellcats and all kind of shit on your page, you know what I'm saying?
Chef G
So I got her whatever she wanted.
Uncle Murder
Yeah.
White
I shout out to baby sis, Word.
Uncle Murder
So it's like, baby sister. That's good. Even when you look at, like, adult circle situation Merc, his deal is so crazy because his kids are still getting money. So that's why when we talked about Pop Smoke, we wanted to know if mama smoking, brother smoke is getting some chicken.
White
Yeah, yeah.
Uncle Murder
Cause Dolph set up. Is he not here no more? You want to set up his kids still good?
White
Yeah.
Uncle Murder
And it's different in the South. He bought plenty mad real estate. The real estate is way cheaper. So he bought a whole bunch of houses out there and stuff, like, with a lot of his flips, you know what I mean? You know, New York, we super expensive. You get a tin can for eight grand, four grand, you're getting a studio four grand in the city. But it's crazy how people have these situations where, you know, God forbid, something
White
go left, they don't even be taken care of. Yeah, Yeah.
Uncle Murder
A lot of people can't do a chef. Drew, you'd be going, all the bills is piled up.
White
Yeah.
Uncle Murder
You know what I'm saying? That's why I was like, damn, if you could sell, you know, send your. Your baby mama a hundred. That's good. I know you, sis, Mom, Everybody good. The crib is good. Everybody good. That's what it's about to be kind of set up. Even though we don't want you in there because, you know, New York right now, you know, it's only a couple of touring right now like that. So we don't want you in there. Cause, you know, we all for New York now.
Chef G
Respectfully. That's a fact. And then, you know, it's crazy when the reason why. It's like, me, I've been around everybody from New York. I've been in the trenches with everybody upstate, you heard, like, not just the five boroughs. I'm talking about Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Utica. You heard, like, this is. I ran into. We done. You feel me? Got it on. You know what I'm saying? Now we all want some family. Like, bro, this is when I say I'm New York. Like, I'm really New York. Every part of New York I didn't touch and been around, you feel me shake hands with. So it's like. Like, I'm not just. Only the Borrows. You heard I'm from. I'm with everywhere.
Uncle Murder
I'm from New York. Hell, yeah. That shit is crazy.
Chef G
Stay behind me. Like, they stand behind me. Like, the spine is my back spine, you heard?
White
Excuse know you official. They already know what's up, man. They know what's up, man.
Uncle Murder
So we heard. We. We heard about the workout. We heard about the. The. The food. Who's the best chef in there? You, Chef G. Are you chefing or somebody else cooking?
Chef G
I ain't gonna lie. I do not cook at all.
Uncle Murder
So who's the best chef in the house? Man,
Chef G
my son got me cooking. You feel me? Like my son cooking that I don't know how to make nothing I make the same with. I'm good. But myself, my son be making all the food for prepping and all that. You feel me? That's just sturdy. Everybody got their jobs. Feel me.
White
Sturdy for sure, man.
Uncle Murder
So. So what's next, man? What's next for you? I know you programming, you going back to school and.
Chef G
Yeah, I'm about to do the tv. Get the college. You feel me? The next thing for me is just. It's the td, man. Once I tv now it's really up and up, bro. Sleepy come home first once sleepy. Touchdown. You're gonna start it up and go crazy. And then I'm gonna come home next, and we both gonna start it up and go crazy, bro. For me.
White
Do y' all got a project y' all dropping together?
Chef G
Yeah. Hell yeah.
White
Okay.
Chef G
Matter of fact, matter of fact, I forgot the date, but we won't. We gonna drop our it pretty soon, I think right around summertime. Probably around the time bro come home. You feel me?
White
Perfect time, perfect time. Perfect timing.
Uncle Murder
Definitely, definitely, man. We just want to see where your mentors at, because you know, you want. You know, you. Like I said, you got money on you on the inside, but you still, you know, you sturdy, you know, you know what you got to do. So your mind say you one of them. That'd be like, yo, I'm not thinking about the outside when I'm inside. Independence.
Charlamagne Tha God
You wanna see?
White
He buying all this. Like he outside.
Uncle Murder
That is true. Yeah, you're right. You absolutely right. That was a dumb question. It. Man, you think about outside.
White
That's all that thinking about. That's all that thinking about.
Uncle Murder
Your wife said he gonna put you. Why you said he gonna put you in Utah with NBA Young boy, stay out of trouble. We gonna have you on. We gonna make a chef G mountain. We get you out of New York. Get him out of New York, let him go to a couple of clubs. Why you sent you out, boy?
Chef G
Yo, but no real, though. Let me tell you some shit, though. Real, though. Real shit. Yo. Having. When you have a baddie, right, it helps you elevate yourself, you feel me? Because now you start thinking different. Like, all right, you know what? Let me not do this dumb and risk going back to jail. I might have to come home to this. You feel me? And make me just stay focused, you know? Me. Everything makes you stay focused. The money, the lifestyle, the rapid everything, the career. It all helps you stay focused. So it's actually a good thing. Okay? You don't want to take that away.
White
Especially, you said we need a baddie to stay focused. You ain't lying. It motivates you, man.
Chef G
Why not murder? Look now. Now you working out something. You taking care of your health. You eating better. You ain't lying.
White
You ain't lying.
Chef G
Your teeth better. Now you trying to look up to
Uncle Murder
do it all for the women.
White
That's right. That's right. That's right, Chef.
Uncle Murder
That's right.
Chef G
Yo, just chill, bro. Get back.
Uncle Murder
So we know you want the. We know we getting a Ferrari truck. You might order that in jail, though. White's gonna be pissed. You know, I'm gonna ask you, what's your favorite watch, man? What's your favorite. You got a lot of watches. What's your favorite, man?
Chef G
My favorite is the AP2 toe. AP.
White
AP gang.
Chef G
Yeah, the two tone AP. That's the favorite. No matter what. That's my favorite one. I just feel like that's like the Sony. That's the mommy right there. Like, I made it.
Uncle Murder
Oh, you made it, man.
Chef G
You know.
Uncle Murder
You know what I mean?
White
We just got to make it out the can.
Uncle Murder
We just. We miss you out here, man.
Chef G
So I miss everything out there. So I miss all y' all niggas voice, man.
Uncle Murder
Before you left, you was up the clubs. You was up the gram.
Chef G
That's the first time I ever been in the clubs ever. First time. That was all new to me. I never been to a strip club ever in my life. That was the first time that came to strip club. First time I really actually was in a club. The first time for mass. First time I went on tour, like, everything, bro. That was my first time doing everything in one shot. And then all that was just 12 months. Like, 12 months. You feel me? Went home, dropped the hit, made more, bro. We going gold. We going platinum. We did a tour. We in Rolling loud. We in Miami. Like, all I see was just like, yo, crazy. We met the booby trap. That was my first time over there.
Uncle Murder
I've never been to booby trap. I heard it's crazy. I never been there, man. I gotta go there one day. I never been there. I heard it's crazy. I heard you could pull a boat up there, right?
White
Yeah, you can pull up in the boat.
Uncle Murder
That's some dope, man. We gotta go there.
Chef G
That's the matrix right there.
Uncle Murder
So you know. You know you know, I'm tapped in, man. So, you know, I'm gonna ask you a question. How do you feel about, you know, some of your worst enemies, you know, the Blixies, I believe, dropping a flag,
Chef G
you know what I'm saying? For me, it's just like.
Uncle Murder
Cause, you know, that's the talk in the streets, you know, I'm old, but I'll be here.
White
That's how it be, right, son? That's just how I be.
Chef G
Tom is the best teller. You heard?
Uncle Murder
Yeah. Cause I know prison is mad political. And I know, like, when you got everybody against you, it's like they was like, you like, yo, it felt like what everybody was saying in the streets was like they had so much pressure that they had to, like, switch gangs. So, you know, that was just to talk about, you know what I mean? Allegedly. Allegedly. All allegedly.
Chef G
Allegedly. Allegedly. It's like, listen, you know what you signed up for, Allegedly. So it's like, this is not something brand new to you. You know what's going on. You know exactly what's going on. So act like you know, you feel me? Like I said before, you know what I'm saying? If you're a person that tell everybody this is what you do, you better come do it. Because if not, you don't pull your car and your car will get pulled. You feel me? That's. That's what.
White
Yo, how crazy was around a couple days before you had to go in. Got. You got the word 51 is doing sleepy on the record, man.
Chef G
I'm like, what? Because we speaking on a jack. He like, yo, he sent me the song. Matter of fact, he sent it to me and he told me, he was like, yeah, look, you put your verse on his head and sit out. I'll do. I'm like, what? Asking me. Hold on, let me show you something. I went straight to the school track off recorded it. I didn't even text him back. You heard? I just sent the track back. I didn't hear that. You heard? I said 50 heard that. See, put my 5 on you like, yeah, I got that done right now.
White
Yeah, he sent that to me asap. Facts, facts.
Uncle Murder
Yeah. Cause it feels. It felt like y' all was rapping more than, you know, the drill. Boom, boom. You know, it felt less of that. You know, I fuck with the drill, but I know, you know, it felt less of that and more like the bars on that one. Uh huh.
White
Facts, facts.
Uncle Murder
You know what I mean?
Chef G
You gotta step just 50 on the track, so you gotta. You can't be playing around like, you know what I'm saying? You gotta be able to, you know, you gotta step correctly. So that's what the plan was like, I bet. We gotta show out. You feel me?
White
Nah, Facts.
Uncle Murder
Yo, yo, yo. I heard your records, man. You know, you could fight murder when you come home. He played me the exclusives all the time, but he never let me. I'll be like, yo, let me get that. Yo, fuck out of here. You never gonna let me get the record. But I heard the record. You a Murder guy. I love it. I heard the one with you and Nipsey. I haven't heard the pop. Smokey, he never played me that. But you gotta. You got a bright future, my man. And them. And what I like about them records is it didn't. It feels like it's bigger than Drill. Like, I love Drill, but I feel like y' all bigger than Drill. Y' all make worldwide kind of records. So when I hear these records, I'm like, this is not, you know, crap. Boom, boom. And, you know, it's. It's. It's over the. You know, they're passing the ball to Drill. And I love Drill. You know? I love Drill.
Chef G
You got, like. That's. That's like. I'm gonna say, like, shout out to, like, White and Jerry and the team as a whole. John, everybody.
White
Great John.
Uncle Murder
Great John.
Chef G
Yeah, great job. Oh, God. You feel me? They'd be the ones that tell us, like, yo, don't be scared to elevate yourself. Don't be scared to jump on this type of beat. Don't be scared. You feel me? So, like, whenever we started elevating and doing, like, songs like Wait On Me and Break It Bad and like that, and sleeping, doing deep energy, we was. It was not like we were scared to do it. We just didn't wanna. We didn't wanna up what we had going on before. So now when we started doing it and elevating to these different type of music, it took us to the moon. You feel me? So it's like. It's shout out to them for real. It's the team. You feel me? You only as strong as your team. You're right.
White
Definitely.
Uncle Murder
Yo, I've seen this shit happen overnight, man. Like, I seen it happen overnight. I remember when y' all ain't have the jewelry, I was like, yo, niggas, we get some jewelry. Niggas came back. Quarter million, half a million, bulletproof trucks, houses all over the place. California, New York. I'm like, God damn, it's so crazy how there is no, know, artist development. Like. Like, light is not what I learned about White. White is not going to sign an artist if they're not lit already. So it's like Chef and sleep had to be lit.
White
Put that work.
Uncle Murder
It has to be. No. No label is doing that. There is no artist. Remember artist development? Yeah. We're going to build this artist up. We're going to make them something. There is none of that. You got to put out the records. It got to drop.
White
All of that. Yeah. It's different now, right?
Chef G
Yo, yo, look, I remember when I was in court, right? I looked at the judge. The judge like, listen, man, I'mma grant you the bail. We looking around. I'm like, yo, damn, what he about to say? I'm looking at my lawyer like, what he about to say? And they say, yeah, man, $1.5 million. I want said. Oh, God, I'm looking like, oh, that said 1.5.
White
Like, 1.5 million, you know, boy, I
Chef G
look back, I looked at wizard, you know, wizard got up and he just walked out. I said, hold me leg.
White
You know, White looking like that. You know my son White looking like. When I said, I he'd be out tomorrow. You know what I mean?
Uncle Murder
Yo, brother, when you got seven, over seven billion streams, that. That's nothing, man. Don't worry about it. That's, come on, ever. Seven billion streams, bro.
White
That's a fact.
Uncle Murder
That is big, man. You got a bright future. We need you in the town, man.
White
That's a fact, though. That's a fact.
Uncle Murder
And, yo, and we appreciate you tapping into this jail series episode, man. Chef G, man, Winning team White Free Sleep.
White
This, that, this the Brooklyn episode today, baby.
Uncle Murder
Oh, yeah. You. You made this happen.
White
This is the Brooklyn episode.
Uncle Murder
Murder. Stepping it up with the guests, man.
White
This is the Brooklyn. This is the Brooklyn connection.
Uncle Murder
Yo, listen, yo, Chef, every guest on the show. Yeah.
White
We don't care about anything. Murder got murder, my brother White. We got set. Murder got Seth G on here. Shout out to White. We don't care about all that you talking about.
Uncle Murder
I thought it was never gonna happen. I thought it was. Yo, Chef, I thought this was never gonna happen. You know, I see you spending money.
Chef G
You.
Uncle Murder
You. I'm like, you in jail handling business. You know, I don't know what you. You know, you're doing your thing, so I didn't think it was gonna happen.
White
All right? It's my guys. This is right here.
Chef G
You can't be scared to express the success.
White
That's right.
Uncle Murder
That's right.
Chef G
Right. That's right. Making this far to be. I understand. To be humble. That's gratefully. Gratefully. I understand. But don't be scared to show what you. Of course we a make it this far. To be playing games.
White
Yeah. And to act like we ain't got it n. It's all good. We gonna see it. Yeah, yeah. I'm with you with that. I'm with you.
Chef G
Hell, no.
White
But when you come home, we gonna throw a little shade on it.
Chef G
You heard? No. Hell, no.
Uncle Murder
I just want to be invited to the winning circles. The winning circle.
White
Welcome home party.
Uncle Murder
Welcome home party. I told white. I told white. I said, yo, I don't care where they at. If sleep is on the island, pick them up. Make it possible for him to have a private jet and where you at to have a private jet? Because we gotta show back in the movie how to win a team do, baby. The winning circle you got, we got.
Chef G
Respectfully. That's a respectfully. Gangster
Uncle Murder
tours, streams not in PC.
White
Did it all.
Uncle Murder
Knocking out did it all, man. Going to school now.
White
Sending home 100,000.
Uncle Murder
Sending home 100,000.
White
Buying. Buying jewelry for 200. 200,000.
Uncle Murder
Yo, yo, you gotta buy the Ferrari truck from inside, bro. Buy. Let's buy it inside, bro, so we can interview again.
White
Ferrari truck coming soon.
Uncle Murder
Are you doing a met black, or you want the satin black? Black.
Chef G
The gloss black. I ain't gonna lie. Glossy. That gotta be shiny.
Uncle Murder
I could see you now getting speeding tickets, man.
White
He said, don't matter. I'mma pay it. That's right. I'mma pay it. That's facts.
Chef G
I got a car. I got a card just for that. I got a special card that I use just to pay the tickets.
Uncle Murder
For sure. I just want to be in a bulletproof. I'll just let me borrow the bulletproof. I just bought a bulletproof proof.
White
It's parked up. It's chilling. The BP parked up, chilling.
Chef G
It's popped up. Chilling.
Uncle Murder
Yeah, man. The town ain't the same without y', all, man. We appreciate your time, man. We love you. On this jail series episode with Uncle Murder, Chef G, the winning circle, free
White
Chef G. He be home soon.
Uncle Murder
You heard G. Free Sleepy Hollow.
White
Win.
Uncle Murder
The circle circles the team, and it's the real report. Y' all don't jack our style, man. This is what we doing. Jail series calls with all the biggest superstars, man. We only got one minute left.
White
One minute left, man. Chef G, anything you want to say to the people?
Chef G
Hey, yo, man, free me, free sleep, free the gods. Free myself, Billy. Free everybody, man. This jail is not for no man. You heard. Reporting loud for governor. Yeah. Those going on penitentiary boys. Oh, God. Free the gods, man. Y' all love y', all, man.
White
You already know. Love my guy, Chef G. Free Chef G. You know the vibes.
Chef G
It's the real report. Good luck surviving the off season, football fans.
Uncle Murder
At first I was afraid. I was petrified. Football's over. It's like a part of me just died. And 200 days till football's back. But tonight I won't just cry.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Uncle Murder
And that's the place with hard rock.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Chef G
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Chef G
Then she says, have you seen a
Uncle Murder
photo of my son? And I'm like, who is this person?
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Uncle Murder
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Uncle Murder
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Episode: Sheff G on Life Behind Bars, Meeting Donald Trump, Releasing a Track with Nipsey Hussle, and Meeting Pop Smoke
Date: April 8, 2026
Fat Joe and Jadakiss (with co-hosts Uncle Murder and White) connect with Brooklyn drill rap pioneer Sheff G, who is currently incarcerated, for a candid conversation about life behind bars, his perspective on fame and success, encounters with figures like Donald Trump, unreleased collaborations (including with Nipsey Hussle, Pop Smoke, G Herbo, and others), and his influence on New York’s hip-hop landscape. The discussion offers an unfiltered look at the realities of incarceration for a high-profile artist, the evolution of drill music, and the personal resilience needed to thrive, even from the inside.
“I’mma be in the history books, boys." (02:36, 18:08)
“You sent your lady $100,000 from the pins. That’s how we know you really rich.” – Uncle Murder (03:34) “I just spent 230 on the chain. Oh, God.” – Sheff G (04:53)
"There's no such thing up here in the States. There's no such thing as PC. You can't hide… You're gonna go to a different spot every time. You have to face the music over there." – Sheff G (14:15)
“I’m in school. Matter of fact, you heard I’m getting a G.E.D., you heard?” (06:30) “Gotta work better on my math, man. I gotta be able to add it up.” (07:05)
“Your mental is really more mental than physical, you heard. Once your mindset is sturdy, you’re gonna be good.” (33:58)
“You spread a love when the circle. Spreading love, for real. That's how you stay out of trouble, man. You feel me? Do some love. Stay out of trouble.” (09:00)
“When holiday season come up, I'm making sure–yo, we ordering turkeys... gonna feed everybody. Everybody's sturdy.” (40:07)
“It’s always going to be different elevations of it... When I first came out, 2017... we stood out. And that will forever be the official standard.” (09:16)
“I got music to last me until I come home. And after.” (10:11)
“That record need to come out, man. That record need to come out.” – White on Nipsey collab (12:09)
“My son got a billion streams on just one track alone. We got like seven–seven billion plus streams.” (28:09)
“All I was thinking about was, I remember when I was a kid flipping through the history books… I’mma be in the history books, boys.” (18:08)
“I learned how to deal with people so good that I didn’t even feel no type of way… They seen us and spoke to us personally, one on one, it was a different story.” (28:45)
“Every day you wake up is lit. Every single day. Somebody getting cut for breakfast. Stabbed in the yard.” (12:24, 15:18)
“Certain lose their mind because they be thinking about so much and they think about the outside so much that they end up losing themselves… In the box. Lose their mind.” (33:57)
“Your reputation is everything. Your name, your word is everything in here.” (22:16)
“I've seen you buy Hellcats and all kind of shit on your page, you know what I'm saying?... I got her whatever she wanted.” (50:13)
“Every part of New York I didn’t touch and been around, you feel me shake hands with... I’m not just only the Borrows. You heard? I’m with everywhere.” (51:35)
“Pop told me... he like, yo, bro, like, made it, feel me? Like, we immortal.” (48:43)
“Once this bid is done, it’s over. It’s over after. This is now straight enjoyment. Now we can take trips and really go places.” (43:44) “I never thought about writing a book, but I did think about like, having a movie done about my whole life and...” (46:34)
| Segment | Topic/Quote | |----------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:36, 18:08 | Sheff G on meeting Donald Trump: “I’mma be in the history books, boys.” | | 03:34 | Sending $100,000 to his partner from jail – financial flex. | | 04:53 | Buying a $230,000 chain while incarcerated. | | 06:30, 07:05 | Working on his GED, focusing on self-improvement. | | 09:16 | Thoughts on drill’s legacy and evolution. | | 10:11 | Stockpiled unreleased music for future releases. | | 12:24–15:18 | Describing “Matrix” prison life: daily violence, reputation. | | 14:15, 22:16 | On “PC” (protective custody) and the importance of your name/reputation. | | 18:08–18:34, 28:45 | On public backlash and history after meeting Trump. | | 28:09, 28:23 | Discussing massive streaming numbers; team’s impact. | | 33:58 | Mental strength – “Your mental is really more mental than physical...” | | 40:07 | Spreading love; giving back, even inside. | | 46:34 | Movie/book ambitions. | | 48:43 | Last conversation with Pop Smoke – legacy, immortality. | | 51:35 | Sheff G on being “real New York.” | | 53:07 | Upcoming joint project with Sleepy Hollow. | | 62:14–62:38 | Bail set at $1.5 million—Money, legal struggles. | | 64:37 | End – expressing pride, not hiding success, longing for freedom. | | 66:42–67:00 | Final words: “Free me, free sleep, free the gods…” |
Tone & Energy:
The conversation is raw, unfiltered, and alternates between comedic banter, sobering reality checks, and heartfelt wisdom. Sheff G radiates both resilience and confidence, never shying away from discussing hard truths—about street life, the criminal justice system, loyalty, and the trap of fame. The hosts inject humor and nostalgia but also display genuine concern for Sheff G and others still inside.
For Listeners:
Even if you’re new to the Brooklyn drill scene or unaware of Sheff G’s story, this episode provides a vivid picture of the stakes, the culture, and the spirit of New York hip-hop today—underscored by tales of survival, loyalty, and ambition that echo far beyond the bars.