Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda on 50 Cent beefs, VladTV & NEW PODCAST The Real Report

Summary

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Joe and Jada Podcast

Episode: Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda on 50 Cent Beefs, VladTV & NEW PODCAST The Real Report
Host: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Date: December 18, 2025
Guests: Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode is a lively, unfiltered roundtable between Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Tony Yayo, and Uncle Murda, taking a deep dive into the culture and history of hip-hop beefs – especially around 50 Cent – the evolution of the rap business, legendary street stories, industry dynamics, and the upcoming launch of The Real Report podcast. The conversation touches on everything from legendary music moments and street conflicts to the changing landscape of hip-hop’s values and fame.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Welcome & Introduction to The Real Report Podcast

• [03:24]** – The hosts introduce Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda as "part of the Volume up family” with their own show, The Real Report, dropping soon.
• Celebration of Collaborations: “They going through the Joe and Jada feed. That means we getting money together!” – Jada Kiss [03:29]
• Organic Connections: The opening sets the tone — relaxed, comedic, full of mutual respect and hip-hop nostalgia.

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2. Fashion, Persona, and Image in Hip-Hop

• Dressing for Success:
  • Fat Joe jokes about having premeditated outfits for certain guests, specifically 50 Cent [08:18].
  • Uncle Murda and Tony Yayo tease the duo about their style: “Do y’ all have stylists or y’all dress yourself?” [07:52]
• Realness & Hustle:
  • Yayo: “Most of the times I pick my own shit… closet got it.” [08:10]
• Presence in the Streets:
  • Fat Joe admits to always getting fresh, even just for the supermarket: “I go to supermarket dip fresh. Fendi sweatsuit, Louis Vuitton sweats…” [09:07]

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3. Industry Shifts: VladTV, Social Media, and Revenue Streams

• YouTube Replacing Music Sales:
  • Uncle Murda: “You don’t have to drop music anymore. All you gotta do is go to YouTube and Instagram. It’s a whole different streams…” [10:15]
• Changing Consumption Habits:
  • Uncle Murda discusses how streaming has overtaken traditional radio listening [10:19].
• Value of Experience Over Money:
  • “It’s the experiences. I got a billion dollars worth of experiences… Like, when we went in the crowd with J. Balvin in Colombia… 80,000 people. I’m ready to start rapping in Spanish for real.” – Uncle Murda [11:03]

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4. Cocaine Cowboys, Street Temptations, and the Line Between Rap & Crime

• Fat Joe’s Real-Life Temptations:
  • Relates stories of friends tempting him with big drug moves, overcoming the allure “when it seems too good to be true” [13:34].
  • “When you caught, you caught. When the niggas grab you, you don’t know what you caught for, but you like, damn…” – Fat Joe [15:23]
• Uncle Murda Weighs In:
  • “The average brother from the street would have did that… I know he needed a Fat Joe to tell that…” [15:42]
• Self-Awareness:
  • Fat Joe recounts a story about losing weight but still seeing himself as “Fat Joe” and the perpetual street mentality [16:12].

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5. Classics vs. New Wave – Reflecting on Movies and TV

• “They can’t figure these new movies out.” – Jada Kiss [18:02]
• Disdain for attempts at sequels (e.g., Scarface 2, New Jack City) and love for Power, Snowfall, Godfather of Harlem, etc. [18:08-19:40]
• A comedic riff about “pre-meditated outfits” for Power premieres.

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6. Hip-Hop Beefs and Inherited Grudges

• The Legacy of G-Unit Feuds:
  • “Everybody we beef with, I looked up to. I was a fan.” – Uncle Murda [21:53]
  • “50 was the bad guy from how to Rob...” [22:17]
• Telling the Untold Stories:
  • Fat Joe reveals for the first time how he confronted and allegedly “put hands” on Young Buck during G-Unit beef days [24:24-28:14]
    • Memorable quote: “He had to poke his head over the cop’s thing for just one second, and the barber hit him!” – Fat Joe [28:02]

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7. The Nature of Industry Beef: Pranks, Setups, and “Grimy Tactics”

• The “Green Lantern” Incident:
  • Uncle Murda and Jada reminisce about a time when DJ Green Lantern was allegedly recorded and fired, demonstrating how cutthroat industry beef used to be [36:19-37:08].
  • “You gotta watch Jada in beef, man. That’s all I can tell you.” – Uncle Murda [35:20]
• Selective Outrage and “Rat” Culture:
  • Fat Joe and Uncle Murda discuss how some industry figures are called out for snitching, while others get a pass.
  • “Even me. I say what’s up to certain rats when I know they’re rats… It’s selective.” – Fat Joe [48:24]

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8. Experience, Fame, and the Double-Edged Sword of Recognition

• International Tours With 50 Cent:
  • Tony Yayo discusses the wild dynamic of rapping worldwide, seeing crowds in Europe know every lyric despite barely knowing English [41:02].
  • “50 Cent to some people is like Superman… In Dubai, they say they learn the news from 50 Cent!” – Fat Joe [41:13]
• Downsides to Fame:
  • “The bigger you are as an artist… you can’t even go outside. You stay in a suite.” – Uncle Murda [41:32]
• Unfiltered Real Talk About “Capping”:
  • Tony Yayo admits the rumor about getting “shot in the head” was exaggerated – it was glass, not a bullet, but it made for good street promotion [90:09-91:47]

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9. Rap Superheroes: Longevity, Legends, and the Erosion of Status

• “Rappers Aren’t Superheroes Anymore”:
  • Uncle Murda laments that street figures and scammers have replaced rappers as heroes in the culture [102:28].
  • “When we came up, niggas was super superhero. Big, Ell, Big Pun, Fat Joe… It was like Avengers.” [102:34]
• On Rap Battles and the Thrill of the Competition:
  • Deep nostalgia for classic beefs, “waiting by the radio” for exclusive diss tracks like Biggie’s “Who Shot Ya?” [102:34-103:36]
• The Difference Between Then and Now:
  • Fat Joe: “It's the entourage… they feel like they’re impressing you… you have to talk people off the ledge… The murder game is something for life.” [104:07]

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10. Beefs That Escalate to Real Violence

• Inherited Battles:
  • Uncle Murda tells raw stories of beef between G-Unit and Jimmy Henchman, and how his own Bentley was shot up, windows shattered, after refusing to shake hands at the Mixtape Awards [69:04–75:33].
• Street Rivalries and Survival:
  • “I was running reckless, just out of jail, didn't care, anywhere… should have never went to no fucking mixtape awards.” – Uncle Murda [70:53–71:27]
• Studio Stories & Legendary Hangouts:
  • Reminiscing on both the danger and glory of being in the game in the late '90s – from studio brawls, to being outside with the “real ones” (Preem, Black Just, E Money Bags, etc.) [78:13–79:14]

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11. Remembering Chris Lighty: Mentor and Peacemaker

• Violator Legacy:
  • Fat Joe details how Chris Lighty “saved his life,” signing him in the middle of the block, and always trying to make peace among artists [80:00–82:12].
  • “When they want to sign, they sign. I signed in the middle of a block. He gave me like 50k. I showed everybody a legit check. I was legit!” – Fat Joe [81:13]
• Street Credentials:
  • “Chris Lighty, I watched him put in work, with my own eyes, in the Bronx.” – Fat Joe [80:04]

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12. Classic Studio Sessions & The Art of Competition

• Legendary Session Stories:
  • Jada: “Being in the studio all together… if there’s a chance you could be in the studio together, it's always going to sound better.” [96:31]
• Biggie’s Process:
  • “I was with Biggie when he did Hypnotize… on paper.” – Fat Joe [97:07]
  • Jada: “He'd be high, knocked, and wake up to drop that verse and wake everybody up like they gave him smelling salts.” [98:36]

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13. Closing Out: Brotherhood, Business, and Passing the Torch

• Launching New Ventures Together:
  • Yayo and Uncle Murda share how their new podcast came about through Fat Joe’s encouragement [49:46].
• Weed Business & More:
  • Guest announce new business ventures in cannabis: “We got the new weed dispensary as well.” – Tony Yayo [106:13]
• Loyalty and Legacy:
  • “We’re not only podcast brothers, we’re brothers as well.” – Tony Yayo [106:28]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It’s the experiences. I got a billion dollars worth of experiences… fuck rap.” – Uncle Murda [11:03]
• “Everybody we beef with, I looked up to… I didn’t have no beef with nobody, but 50 was the bad guy from How to Rob.” – Uncle Murda [21:53]
• “Even me. I say what's up to certain rats when I know they’re rats… it’s selective.” – Fat Joe [48:24]
• “You don’t have to drop music anymore. Go to YouTube and Instagram… it’s different streams.” – Uncle Murda [10:15]
• “The murder game is something for life. There is no jurisdiction... It’s the entourage, they’re trying to impress you.” – Fat Joe [104:07]
• “When they want to sign, they sign… no lawyer, in the middle of the block.” – Fat Joe on Chris Lighty [81:13]
• “When we came up, niggas was superheroes.” – Uncle Murda [102:34]
• “Who the fuck had the best verse on ‘Niggas Done Started Something’? That’s the most controversial question…” – Uncle Murda [94:40]

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Highlighted Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |---------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | [03:24] – [04:48] | Warm welcome and banter, intro to The Real Report | | [08:10] – [09:24] | Dressing, stylists, and public persona | | [10:15] – [11:41] | VladTV, new revenue streams, rap experiences | | [13:34] – [16:12] | Temptation stories – street life and “the layup” temptations | | [21:53] – [22:43] | Beefs with legends, “being a fan of those we beefed with” | | [24:24] – [28:14] | Fat Joe tells never-before-shared ‘Young Buck’ confrontation | | [36:19] – [37:16] | The Green Lantern firing, “strategic” beef moves | | [48:24] | “Even me. I say what's up to certain rats…” – Fat Joe | | [41:02] – [43:12] | Fame overseas and 50 Cent’s global impact | | [69:04] – [75:33] | Uncle Murda’s “Handshakes and Shootouts” story with Henchman | | [80:00] – [82:12] | Chris Lighty’s mentorship and Violator story | | [96:31] | Studio magic – sessions all together vs. sending verses | | [102:34] | “Rappers aren’t superheroes anymore…” nostalgia & loss of status | | [104:07] | The dangers of entourages and legacy of street violence | | [106:13] | Expanding business: podcasting and cannabis ventures |

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Language: Raw, streetwise, and authentic—reflects classic NYC hip-hop sensibility.
• Mood: Equal parts nostalgia, humor, and candor. No filters, lots of laughter, frank admissions, and a brotherly bond despite histories of beef.

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Final Thoughts

This is a must-hear for hip-hop fans who appreciate both the legends of the culture and the real-life struggles, humor, and business smarts behind the music. Heavy on behind-the-scenes stories, brotherhood, and the ever-evolving state of rap, it’s a wild, entertaining, and enlightening ride.

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Transcript

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jada Kiss]

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[Uncle Murda]

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[Tony Yayo]

Definitely we part of the Valium up family.

[Jada Kiss]

They going through the Joe and Jada feed. That means we getting money together.

[Tony Yayo]

Exactly.

[Jada Kiss]

Let's toast some 1800, you heard.

[Tony Yayo]

Definitely, definitely.

[Jada Kiss]

Dropping in January.

[Tony Yayo]

Dropping in January.

[Fat Joe]

The Real Report. What up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack the Dog.

[Jada Kiss]

You know who it is. Your boy, Jada. The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And we crushing. Pardon my friends.

[Fat Joe]

Killing them. Don't pardon them all.

[Jada Kiss]

When you think of today's guest.

[Uncle Murda]

That's right.

[Jada Kiss]

Think of loyalty. You think of controversy.

[Fat Joe]

Somebody give me a lighter. Who got a lighter?

[Uncle Murda]

Think of.

[Jada Kiss]

Of course you think of cannabis. You think of history in the rap game. You think of surviving. You think of starting from the mud and being a part of a legacy of a dynasty. You think of the end of the year. Wrap up. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

This is time. You think of Queensland. Keep coming back at the end.

[Jada Kiss]

East New York, eas, Southside, Jamaica, Queens.

[Tony Yayo]

Oh.

[Jada Kiss]

Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guest today.

[Fat Joe]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Tony Yayo]

I like that introduction kiss.

[Fat Joe]

Whoa.

[Jada Kiss]

No. You know, I always got to take care of my people.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I personally been waiting for this episode since we started the podcast. We started the podcast. This guy said, yo, we fucked with him too much. I said, jada, who you want? And they were saying, Dick Gregory, Bill Cosby, Wendy Williams, mom, Beyonce. Like, I was like, yo, by the way, Jada, I don't know if you know, we ain't getting none of these on here.

[Jada Kiss]

I didn't even know.

[Fat Joe]

And Uncle Murder, I think the ratings would be great.

[Jada Kiss]

I give them a list, and I know they wasn't going to get none of them. Asking me for people, and they really don't get none of my people that they get them.

[Fat Joe]

He wants to rock Brad Pitt.

[Jada Kiss]

Hold on. He's just his adjuvant. I asked for regular, not regular, but I asked for people that I thought would be no brainer.

[Tony Yayo]

Know what I mean?

[Jada Kiss]

They kept spinning. They. I got this.

[Tony Yayo]

Got.

[Jada Kiss]

They call theyself having a meeting. Yo, let's get together. Let's ask Jada. Me, I was in the Crib smoking now. They want to keep playing with me, actually.

[Uncle Murda]

But Jada, you got to hit him yourself.

[Jada Kiss]

I sent them a crazy.

[Fat Joe]

You got to hit.

[Uncle Murda]

You got to hit him yourself. You gotta. You gotta hit whoever you want on the show yourself. Cause you Jada kiss.

[Fat Joe]

That's what I'm saying.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm just keeping it real.

[Jada Kiss]

That's the next season power, yo.

[Fat Joe]

It's a lot of.

[Jada Kiss]

I like.

[Fat Joe]

I like that.

[Tony Yayo]

I'm paying attention. I'm paying attention.

[Uncle Murda]

I think right now, we in the times where things change, where you can hit the artist yourself. Or like, yo, I need you on the show. There you go.

[Jada Kiss]

We have these relations.

[Fat Joe]

He asking for Cassius Clay. He asking for Red, not Malcolm X. The man want Detroit. I said, that's for straight Red. You have. You know, you twos are partners. This my partners. So when he come with the list, I said, that's for they ass. You know, they kept asking him. They kept with me over here. Want Whitney Houston back like this.

[Jada Kiss]

This is fat.

[Uncle Murda]

He said all the crazy.

[Jada Kiss]

Whitney Houston saying. The craziest that man got. Ladies and gentlemen.

[Uncle Murda]

Pardon.

[Jada Kiss]

Pardon. My partner, he's wild.

[Fat Joe]

Now I'm fried. But yo, we got. Yay, yo.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah, we in the building.

[Fat Joe]

Man got Uncle Murder. Uncle Murder. This is your time.

[Jada Kiss]

Yo, listen, when you see the Christmas trees, you gotta throw a win. How we crushing, nigga? Somehow you gotta.

[Tony Yayo]

You already know. Joe, Joe, Joe told me that as soon as I walked in here. He said, listen, nigga.

[Fat Joe]

Rookies of the year, nigga.

[Jada Kiss]

Rookies of the year, nigga.

[Fat Joe]

That's a fact.

[Tony Yayo]

Y' all crushing shit.

[Uncle Murda]

Y' all crushing.

[Tony Yayo]

That's a fact. That's a fact. Y' all crushing shit.

[Uncle Murda]

So do y' all have stylists or y' all dress yourself?

[Jada Kiss]

Nah, this is all out of pocket, baby. We.

[Uncle Murda]

No, I'm just saying. Do a stylist pick your clothes or do you?

[Fat Joe]

Most of the times I pick my own shit, but I do have.

[Jada Kiss]

We have. Yeah, I got Danny. Shout out to Danny. But today, Danny is with her grandmother.

[Uncle Murda]

You know what I mean? But sometimes the artist playing out of.

[Tony Yayo]

The closet got it.

[Uncle Murda]

Figuring out what to wear.

[Fat Joe]

I do.

[Jada Kiss]

He be out of the closet, too.

[Fat Joe]

He just cut that shit to railna.

[Jada Kiss]

To put it together.

[Fat Joe]

I got an outfit. Cause 50 supposed to come. I got a premeditated outfit for Kid.

[Jada Kiss]

Make his outfits according to the guest.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, no, no. I got the 50 cent outfit. I already got Christmas at Madison Square Garden. That nigga gonna catch the blue, you know. West side, Gunner.

[Tony Yayo]

West Side gu.

[Fat Joe]

When he come on here, that shit gonna be like, flashlight. Then this is the nigga gonna look, he gonna be like, God damn, I shouldn't have came up in this. I got the 50 cent outfit, pre med. I got quick.

[Uncle Murda]

So look, if you rushing, how do you get fly? Cause if you rushing, you know, when you in a crib and you rushing, you just kind of.

[Fat Joe]

I really don't want to tell you, Yayo, because I don't want these people to think of like, I go to supermarket dip fresh. It'll be a Fendi sweatsuit, a Louis Vuitton sweats. That J.

[Jada Kiss]

Let that slide.

[Uncle Murda]

Why you got to get fresh to go to the supermarket?

[Fat Joe]

I got to.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm from the suburbs, man. I be having.

[Tony Yayo]

I'm from the suburbs.

[Uncle Murda]

In the suburbs. Now I got my sweatpants on.

[Fat Joe]

I see you got. I see you got the quarter zip. No more Nike right there. Got that. Boy, you might be the most. See, we all hustle, right? Me, him, all of us, right? You know what I'm saying? One day. You are a highly paid hype man, right? One day you doing your cannabis, opening up cannabis joints. The next day you on Vlad. I think you're the most.

[Uncle Murda]

That's just where I'm gonna give you an example.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no. This is where I'm going.

[Uncle Murda]

Go ahead, I'm give you an example.

[Fat Joe]

I think you have the most. You make more money off of doing your Vlad interviews and doing them interviews. Like, that's a 9 to 5 like that right there. You got that budget. Like, you know how somebody got. I make 200,000 a year. I think you do that with this.

[Uncle Murda]

I don't want to disclose the numbers, but he, he, he, he makes a lot of money off me too. Yeah, it's like, yeah, YouTube. Like, you don't have to drop music anymore. All you got to do is go to YouTube and you got Instagram. Now it's a whole different streams, you know, like when you get in the car, you think about it. You really don't listen to radio no more. Your car got Apple Play. It got all this other Sirius Radio, all kinds of stuff. And then when you in the house, I'm going on YouTube. I'm just keeping it real. It got to be an ill show on TV for me to go to tv.

[Fat Joe]

Nobody could with you. Nobody could with you. Nobody could with nothing.

[Uncle Murda]

You do.

[Fat Joe]

Certain people that whenever they do an interview, I gotta press.

[Uncle Murda]

I think. I think what people like is that I got substance. Like, I think the money don't really mean nothing to. Cause y' all been. Y'.

[Jada Kiss]

All.

[Uncle Murda]

We all legends in the game. Keep it real. Like, I think it's the experiences. I got a billion dollars worth of experiences. I don't got a billion, which I did. You know what I mean? But you gonna turn it into just like we just did. J. Balvin. When we went in the crowd, I'm like, damn, fuck rap. This man got 80,000 people here. Six hour show, real talk in Columbia. Look, none of nobody knew who the surprise guest was. He had 30 surprise guests. I'm like, yo, so he did this 80,000 by himself. Yeah, I'm ready to start rapping in Spanish. For real. Like, you. Like, I'm looking at the crowd. We came out. It's just a whole different type of fucking atmosphere.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murda]

Like, experiences like that, you know?

[Jada Kiss]

These.

[Fat Joe]

These. Well, shout out to y' all for going to Colombia. What was that? Columbia. Crazy.

[Uncle Murda]

Crazy.

[Tony Yayo]

J was sniffing the bags. They serious with them drugs out there, man. I had a bag that some weed came in. Just in. No, it wasn't no weed in my bag, though. The dog knew that it was weed somewhere. He was going crazy on my bag, in my bag. I'm like, yeah, they pulled me to the side.

[Fat Joe]

Leave, like, Honduras.

[Tony Yayo]

He was like, yo, yeah, they were playing Colombia. Yeah, they serious.

[Uncle Murda]

Think about it. You sniffed the. Yo, what you think of Brick? Course in Columbia, she'd probably like 2G. So if you want a private jet.

[Tony Yayo]

They like, yeah, they. They travel.

[Uncle Murda]

Word. But. But like that, them experiences, you know what I'm saying? Going to Columbia, J. Balvin, coming out.

[Fat Joe]

With that like that, you talk about the temptation, right? I had a guy, I told Jada off the. Off the thing one time, but I had a friend of mine, when I say he was the king, like, he had all that crippy, all that shit in Miami, anything they was selling on that in Washington Heights. One day, he did a meeting and looked like the golf ball. But everybody who wanted to kill each other was at the table. I'm sitting there, Fat Joe the rapper, like, Jesus, like this. I know him from Miami. Old Cuban guy. I don't know how he knows these niggas in Harlem, Queens was there. All them niggas was there at the table, right? I'm sitting there with everybody we thought was a. A drug lord in New York. This nigga was the. And he's just my friend from Miami. But the point is, he used to tell me all the time, yo, just fill the tour bus up with the gala. You go up one time I got. And I'd be like, it's tempting. But I was like, yo, I ain't coming up in the game to get caught up with a bus.

[Uncle Murda]

They call that K now. Let's be finished, you know?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but the temptations, you know, anything that seems too good to be true or seems too quick, you know, if you feel like even if you trust a nigga and it's too quick, Scott tells me. I'll tell you a story. Scott tells me. Just me. No, no. One of my man, me and one of my mans. Me and one of my mans fell on hard times at the same time. When I met him, he had 48 condos. And Crip. This nigga was loaded. But the feds, when they. When they took my money for taxes, they caught him for some shit, right? So he comes home, he said, yo, Joe, where you at? I say, yo, come through, pick you up. So he drives me and he stops in the place in Miami. He said, yo, there's a boat there with like 4,000 keys. If I just take it and move it, I can make like 2 million right quick. I know the nigga for 20 something years, this and this and that. So I looked at him, I said, yo, I said, you just did about five. I know shit is fucked up, but you a hustler, man. You gonna find a way to get this bread. You gonna find a way to come back. I don't know. I know you know him for 20 some years, but every single time, it's like Boston George in blow. Every time, it seemed too good to be true, that it's the layup. It's right there. It's something. So he ain't do it now. He's super caked up, know what I'm saying? He flipped this shit to the music business. I don't want to say years, but now when I see him, I was like, you know, I told you not to go in that fucking. Don't take that boat. You know what I'm saying? He took me there. He was like, yo, Joe, they got the boat there. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, I don't think you should fuck with it. And sometimes it's that one little. That one little thing where you know. You know what I'm saying? You know, when you caught, you caught. When the niggas grab you, you don't know what you caught for, but you like, damn, I done did too much shit.

[Tony Yayo]

They got.

[Fat Joe]

Let me see what they got. Stay quiet. Let me see what's going on. Because when they got you, they got you. You know what I'm saying? But you know, thank God he ain't do it. But that temptation that Think the average.

[Uncle Murda]

Brother from the street would have did that. 4,000 keys, keeping it real. Murder don't front like you bolt. Don't say you wouldn't try to snatch that boat.

[Fat Joe]

No, I know, but he needed a fat Joe to tell that nigga most like Skinny Joe. No, you know, I'm skinnier than I ever been. I went to the Doctor, took.

[Jada Kiss]

Your 242. Or you can be 2, 32, 22.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

[Jada Kiss]

Oh, pre meditated.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something, man. I ain't never been 242 in my life. I'm like the movie shallow. How I still think I'm Fat Joe. So when the man told me 242, I said, you sure? He's like, yo, 242. You know, just give or take the shirt. Might be two pounds, you might be 240. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like the movie where the dude keeps saying that he. She sees she fat, but she's skinny. Like, I think I'm Fat Joe. Like, I swear to God, I move like a Fat Joe. But I actually lost mad weight. This shit is bugged out. Like it.

[Uncle Murda]

That first movie you was in as a kid, you was fat in that. I ain't going to lie. Do you look at your movie and be like, on the train. What was that movie you was in?

[Fat Joe]

It was called Prison Song. But I was fat. Watch that man in the hood ever in life was Fat Joey 2 years old. 1 years old. Shit, they was always.

[Uncle Murda]

Cause how old? You was like 16. You was a big kid in that movie. You was like. He was old in it N. He was like 16, 17 in a. Listen, he was playing that move when we. Nah, it was a movie when you was a real little kid, you know what I'm saying? It was probably like the first movie you ever been. You thought he was. No, not Fresh.

[Fat Joe]

I can't with that.

[Tony Yayo]

I'm over here thinking.

[Fat Joe]

No, but I.

[Uncle Murda]

Am Chucky from Fresh, yo. Come on.

[Fat Joe]

Like I am Chucky from Fresh. Meaning if you ever wanted to know what Fat Joe was in his childhood.

[Uncle Murda]

Most of the dope moves, that was my man, right?

[Fat Joe]

Exactly him. Yeah.

[Uncle Murda]

Busting them dope moves. That was a classic.

[Fat Joe]

That was me.

[Uncle Murda]

I always took all the old movies. Is better than the new movies now, bro. Fresh was A classic.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Yeah, but that was me.

[Jada Kiss]

They can't figure these new movies out.

[Uncle Murda]

They trying to do Scarface too. That's ridiculous.

[Fat Joe]

Too late for that, right?

[Uncle Murda]

I think it's just a room I seen yesterday.

[Jada Kiss]

They doing Kareem Akbar from here?

[Odoo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Tony Yayo]

New Jack City. I said, how they doing that? They gonna make it work. I guess they're gonna figure it out.

[Fat Joe]

You know, your man 50 don't put the stuff. Son of a tiger. The. That nigga's on power 67. Like that. Created that. You could bring a back. His cousin, his nephew pop off.

[Tony Yayo]

They like that.

[Fat Joe]

We gonna make it work. Cypher going on. I bet you there's a. Somewhere in there, like, I'm gonna get a spin off like. Like me. I'm gonna Kareem.

[Uncle Murda]

Spin off. Gotta work, though.

[Fat Joe]

No, it gotta work. But, you know, I mean, obviously, that man know how to make the work.

[Uncle Murda]

Of course. And I think with tv, it's timing because there'd be times where there's nothing on tv. Like, all right, cool. You had Godfather.

[Fat Joe]

Harlem.

[Uncle Murda]

That was dope.

[Fat Joe]

I love that.

[Uncle Murda]

You had Snowfall. That was dope. Power was out at that time. I'm locked into all three of them shits right now.

[Fat Joe]

I'm Mayor Kingstown. You know about Mayor Kingstown?

[Tony Yayo]

You better get that.

[Jada Kiss]

Yesterday, the Olympic face.

[Uncle Murda]

She put me on. On.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Mayor Kingston.

[Jada Kiss]

How many seasons it came?

[Fat Joe]

Four seasons. But they move fast. You're gonna love this. You're gonna.

[Uncle Murda]

Kingstown. I'm gonna check.

[Fat Joe]

I love that out in uk. That was big.

[Uncle Murda]

You was watching that?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Top boy was crazy.

[Tony Yayo]

I never got to that.

[Uncle Murda]

Top boy was crazy.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you know what? I never got with. And y' all gonna kick. I mean, his flags ahead of time. I throw it at myself. But Snowfall, it started too slow for me. And Rich was watching everybody watching Snowfall.

[Uncle Murda]

Bro, you bugging that one. We produced that again. He passed away, right? Rest in peace. That wasn't classic.

[Fat Joe]

George Singleton.

[Uncle Murda]

What's the actor name that put him on?

[Fat Joe]

John Singleton came to me, okay?

[Jada Kiss]

For Snowfall.

[Fat Joe]

We had no. We had. Yo, you full of shit, yo. This guy. Yo, listen.

[Uncle Murda]

That's what I was thinking. I was. I did think it was so.

[Fat Joe]

Guy's a man. Subliminal. When I watch the episodes, I see him shooting me from that. Like, this guy's the guy.

[Uncle Murda]

You.

[Fat Joe]

You stay here. The Benny Blanco told him.

[Tony Yayo]

No, you stay here.

[Fat Joe]

I watch the episode. I got the. Yo, he's killing me from the side.

[Jada Kiss]

He thought you was about to say John Singleton came to you for Snowfall.

[Fat Joe]

Don't kill me for the.

[Uncle Murda]

That's crazy, yo.

[Jada Kiss]

Kill me from the shop. Y late.

[Uncle Murda]

Y' all are late.

[Jada Kiss]

Y' all are late.

[Uncle Murda]

I needed a red flag for that one.

[Jada Kiss]

See, that's. I didn't even hear that.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all didn't hear that.

[Jada Kiss]

I was too busy thinking they wouldn't hear.

[Uncle Murda]

Give me some more flags. I need some more. What's going on, man? You be a red one, too. That was a red one. Old school, but we know. But come on. Come on.

[Jada Kiss]

He would have been a hell of a Franklin.

[Uncle Murda]

Crazy. Everybody know. They was like. Everybody was. I only want to repeat that one, yo.

[Fat Joe]

That.

[Jada Kiss]

It was either you or the dude from the uk.

[Uncle Murda]

Listen, we in a new generation.

[Fat Joe]

We had beef with y'.

[Uncle Murda]

All.

[Fat Joe]

We had beef with y'. All. We're not elaborating on that. But you know what the biggest used to get me mad when you used to do this. Stick it talking this talking to me. This right here. Yo, that know he doing this. Ah, you know what?

[Uncle Murda]

Everybody we beef with, I look, they.

[Fat Joe]

Thought it was this.

[Uncle Murda]

Everybody we beef with, I looked up to. I be in my man fat shot basement. Rest in peace, D.J. rough hands. I'm playing your first album. I'm playing like I'm a fan. I'm listening to Cam. I'm listening to Jada. So we in the basement listening to y'. All. So for me, it's like, I didn't have no beef with nobody. But, you know, 50 was the bad guy from how to Rob. I bought Pun distanced him.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murda]

On the first album, I was kind of excited about that. Rest in peace to fun. We in the car. Capital punishment.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murda]

I take 50 head off 50 said.

[Fat Joe]

Rapper real funny Gets your nut off in real life, you don't know me. I'll blow your look, we wasn't on.

[Uncle Murda]

So we in the. I'm in the basement listening. Y' all said my name even Jay. I'm about a dollar. What the is 50 Cent? We was excited. Oh, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

That reached and know who he is.

[Uncle Murda]

And it made who you are, you are.

[Jada Kiss]

We going to lax I'm flying home. It's me and Groovy Loop Shout out.

[Fat Joe]

To groove Shout out to groovy it's.

[Jada Kiss]

14 of y' all sitting on the curb Good thing they didn't go like good.

[Fat Joe]

They ain't look to the right.

[Jada Kiss]

Hell yeah.

[Fat Joe]

With the O.J. simpson groove.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah.

[Jada Kiss]

Cause Battle was G unit right there with extra that want to catch felonies. It was one of them. Please let this door right here be open.

[Uncle Murda]

I'mma tell you. I'm going tell you one time I'm.

[Jada Kiss]

In the district, got to run to the gate. Y' all didn't even see us. It was one of them.

[Fat Joe]

Look at that.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm glad.

[Jada Kiss]

18 deep. It was me and my. That only eat plants. You didn't have a standing chance, though. Sit down, please. Let this door right here be open.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, you know what?

[Jada Kiss]

We gonna go in this door and get to the gate.

[Uncle Murda]

I always think nothing ever happened. Like, one time, I'm coming out the diamond district, and you know, Pistol Pete was like. He just was like, considered the most grimiest. Like, yo, this catch you. He's the jail. He done been up north. He's gonna catch you. Knives, all that. You know I told you about the Spanish sombrero.

[Fat Joe]

I wrote that in a rhyme recently.

[Uncle Murda]

I seen that coming out the district. You know when you know these, you just know when are killers. Like, he had two little. These niggas was like four foot one.

[Fat Joe]

They never left the.

[Uncle Murda]

But you could tell. I'm like, nah, these. I had niggas with me too. Thank God. But like, you could tell the two little niggas he had, they get busy. I could just tell. I could see.

[Fat Joe]

I'll tell you breaking news. If I never. I never told nobody or said this story before, but. Cause we saying that I might as well. But you know I caught Young Buck in that time.

[Uncle Murda]

Oh, shit.

[Fat Joe]

I never heard that story.

[Uncle Murda]

You know he ain't gonna tell 50. That.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, caught Young Buck.

[Uncle Murda]

Tell us the story. Cause he ain't gonna tell 50, man.

[Fat Joe]

He got two piece legend. Like, oh, yeah, yeah. Young Buck, man, that nigga tried to front on me. He said.

[Jada Kiss]

They put heads on.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you.

[Jada Kiss]

Supposed to be no head.

[Fat Joe]

No.

[Uncle Murda]

All right.

[Fat Joe]

No story or you want the story?

[Uncle Murda]

I want the story.

[Tony Yayo]

I never heard this story.

[Jada Kiss]

I'm out.

[Fat Joe]

So I'm at like a. A winter jam, not a summer jam.

[Tony Yayo]

Found out Fat Jones done put hands on Young Buck. Now that's thinking of some shit.

[Jada Kiss]

My.

[Tony Yayo]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Uncle Murda]

Just keep writing. Murder.

[Tony Yayo]

Keep right. I'm over here writing while we do.

[Fat Joe]

To this point, he said, yo, Fat Joe Real, you haven't told last. So to this point, he said, I didn't. We was talking.

[Jada Kiss]

You already said it.

[Fat Joe]

All right, It.

[Tony Yayo]

Nah, that.

[Jada Kiss]

Finish that.

[Tony Yayo]

Go ahead. Yeah, finish that shit, Joe.

[Fat Joe]

Damn. I want to go to Nashville, Tennessee one day.

[Jada Kiss]

I was just supposed to go out there and I need.

[Fat Joe]

You ain't got nothing to do with this.

[Jada Kiss]

He just deadted my money in Nashville.

[Uncle Murda]

So what happened, man? Go ahead, man.

[Fat Joe]

You wanted on me. So we in Chicago, right? And if you talk about the pistol beat, little niggas. No, I had the ugly ones with me. The ugly ones, ugly ones with me, right in Chicago. And so I'm coming off stage. It's like a summer jam, but a winter jam. It was winter, right? So everybody on there, Young Jeezy, Fab. There was a lot of witnesses, too. Nobody be. I don't know. They don't never tell my stories with. When I'm the victor, I never hear the story. You know what I'm saying? So I'm getting off the stage, and it's dumb dark. Like, it's mad dark. And there was somebody up on the second thing. He was like, yo, crack. Yo, crack. But I just got off stage. I'm whipping it down Chicago. I'm walking down. Yo, Craig. You hear me, nigga?

[Jada Kiss]

I look up.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, it's Young Bob. I got a water bottle in my hand. Fuck out of here. I throw the water bottle. One thing I said, come down, come down.

[Uncle Murda]

Come down, y'.

[IBM Executive]

All.

[Fat Joe]

No, I'm going crazy. Oh, no, I don't never get, like.

[Uncle Murda]

So when he came down, I don't know.

[Fat Joe]

I don't get tested. Like, it's very hard to test me. Yay. Yo, I'm telling you, I'm going. I just black out. So I'm waiting for the. The up there. He gotta come down his staircase, right? So I'm losing my mind, right? Like, y' all come. There come. He had a bunch of niggas with him, too. A bunch of Chicago dudes with him, right? So the cops come, and they form like a. A barricade. Like, just like five cops, they. They close the staircase so he won't come. He took too long to come down, by the way. Like, you know, when you see a nigga, you ready to tear him up, you down.

[Jada Kiss]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

He's taking too long, right? And so when he comes down, he's in the staircase, and he's trying to tell me, like, yo, this ain't got nothing to do. But he was just talking crazy. He tested me to see if Fat Joe was pussy. You know, a lot of niggas is pussy. They act.

[Uncle Murda]

Like. He said, hell, no.

[Fat Joe]

It was at the height of the beef. Oh, so he's in the staircase. Yo, I wasn't this and that, but he poked his head out just one second over the cops thing.

[Uncle Murda]

What he doing?

[Fat Joe]

The barber hit him.

[Uncle Murda]

So what he do?

[Tony Yayo]

Even the barber hit him.

[Fat Joe]

He hit us with the mop bag. Yo, it wasn't like that. This, this, that.

[IBM Executive]

Damn.

[Fat Joe]

Then we jump. I tell you, I had to. That that was.

[Tony Yayo]

I had the ugly with my bad. I'm just thinking little lines against.

[Fat Joe]

No, I'm just telling you. It was like yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. It happened.

[Uncle Murda]

I never heard this story. It's the first time I'm telling you the truth. That's great.

[Fat Joe]

And I believe a lot of stories we never heard.

[Jada Kiss]

He didn't want to come up here.

[Fat Joe]

He can't come up here anyway because the ain't down with the movement no more. He can't come up here, say his. What he gonna say? I tell him in his face. Come on, Jada, you with listen.

[Uncle Murda]

I know. Look.

[Jada Kiss]

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[Fat Joe]

All right.

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[Fat Joe]

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[Uncle Murda]

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[Uncle Murda]

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[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

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[Jada Kiss]

Hello.

[Uncle Murda]

Hello.

[Jada Kiss]

I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of the podcast smart talks with IBM. I recently sat down with IBM's chairman and CEO, Arvind Krishna, and I asked him, how can companies use AI to its fullest potential to create smarter business?

[IBM Executive]

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[Uncle Murda]

Yeah.

[IBM Executive]

So we are not asking our clients to be the first experiment on it. We say you can leverage what we did. We are happy to bring out all our learnings, including what needs to change in the process. Because the biggest change is not technology. It's getting people to accept that there's a different way to do things.

[Jada Kiss]

To listen to the full conversation, visit IBM.com smarttalks.

[Uncle Murda]

You want to talk about Buck? I never. Look, I never had a problem with Buck. I never kicked him while he was there. I just think, you know, back in the days, you know, come on, we from New York. When we was at war, it was all grimy tactics. I could tell you your grimy tactics. I could definitely tell you your grimy tactics. Remember when he got Greenland fired back in the days? You remember that?

[Tony Yayo]

No Green. Linton sweats on here, man.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah. Green is family.

[Jada Kiss]

Green is family.

[Tony Yayo]

Green is family, man.

[Jada Kiss]

Green family.

[Fat Joe]

No Greenlands.

[Uncle Murda]

No.

[Tony Yayo]

Green is.

[Uncle Murda]

You gotta watch Jada and Beef, man. That's all I can tell you.

[Tony Yayo]

Family.

[Uncle Murda]

Y' all don't remember that?

[Fat Joe]

No. Fry, we don't want. Everybody. Everybody gets it on this. This is Yayo.

[Uncle Murda]

And. This ain't no regular. This ain't no regular.

[Fat Joe]

We talking that what happened? What he do to yo?

[Uncle Murda]

We was talking last night like, yo, we really in the ROC Nation building. What's the plan? But I'll just, you know, shout to rock. That was the red flag.

[Fat Joe]

I'm like, oh, toughest person in this building is Jay Z. Sister, you see how you stay away? Sis don't play that. Sis don't play that.

[Uncle Murda]

Shield and Beef, you don't remember that? They hurt my feelings in a lot of beef.

[Jeff Teague]

They.

[Uncle Murda]

They like to kill you on wreck. They kill you.

[Fat Joe]

Like, oh, no, they going hard.

[Uncle Murda]

I hated that beat. It was nice. I was like, feelings. So look. Nah, n hurt my feelings. So look, Jada styles them hurt your feelings in the battle. You too, Joe. You just be going in. So I forgot what it was. We was beefing and Green Lantern was djing for Eminem. True story. And Jada recorded him. He was talking mad like, yo, them three block.

[Fat Joe]

He didn't even say that.

[Jada Kiss]

He didn't.

[Uncle Murda]

So it was mad. It was mad funny. Y N was talking secret strategic battle. But to this day, I wanted to ask him on the show.

[Jada Kiss]

Green land, strategic green landing.

[Fat Joe]

Did you get him fired?

[Jada Kiss]

He got fired.

[Uncle Murda]

Did you record him? Keep it real.

[Fat Joe]

You recorded him before, and that's dangerous.

[Jada Kiss]

It was involuntary. He was involuntary.

[Fat Joe]

You a recorder. I gotta watch the.

[Uncle Murda]

During the beef.

[Jada Kiss]

And he put it and it.

[Uncle Murda]

How to get out.

[Jada Kiss]

How did that get up before instant this before.

[Uncle Murda]

It was strategic.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I'll be talking with J. I'll be like. I'll be talking to Jada. I'd be like, man, these white over here, man. They trying to dissing this.

[Uncle Murda]

Let me ask.

[Fat Joe]

You might be under.

[Uncle Murda]

When I used to with you on that record, I always with Joe. Cause you was a gangster to me. I'm like, nah, these niggas a gangster. But I never got it. While you were scared to fly.

[Fat Joe]

I was scared. I'm still scared to fly. I looked out the window today, I was like, thank God I ain't got to be on the plane. I could never get over that.

[Uncle Murda]

Evan.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all be private all the time. Let's talk about this.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm not scared.

[Tony Yayo]

Bowling.

[Fat Joe]

What. What's the best you ever ate in Turkish?

[Jada Kiss]

Eating bison burgers.

[Fat Joe]

This waffles, yo. This guy. Yeah.

[Jada Kiss]

Caviar.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, listen, Let me tell you something. We used to have a little. Little, Little beef with Jay Z, right? We won't elaborate on that, right? Hip hop. And that man would say, nah, nah, nah, that's. That's good.

[Tony Yayo]

That's not a boy. Yeah, that's not.

[Fat Joe]

But the man, every time I thought he said a verse around me, he would be like, in Puerto Vallarta, hundred million dollar steak flying over this guy. He don't like the. I'll be like, damn. All he got to do is touch that. That paper. Ain't nobody seeing him with the paper. That's your shit. When try to diss you, you be like, yeah, I was eating the Turkish bolognese eggs in the morning.

[Uncle Murda]

Look, you could have more money than me. I have a billion dollars worth of experiences like, how you say, Jay? I'm in the Swiss Alps doing my own tours, so y' all could do that, but certain artists can't do that at Jada. Y' all could go overseas and do shows. I'm quite sure you do.

[Jada Kiss]

We.

[Uncle Murda]

Where was we at? We was in Turkey.

[Fat Joe]

Germany.

[Uncle Murda]

Germany.

[Fat Joe]

We had breakfast.

[Uncle Murda]

Y' all got legendary.

[Tony Yayo]

Came about having breakfast in Journey.

[Uncle Murda]

We had breakfast. We ate bread.

[Fat Joe]

Holland Del A. We sat down. He start slopping. He said, man, who would have thought we'd be eating breakfast with each other in this?

[Uncle Murda]

Absolutely all that. We in the whole other country and then on at that. When you in Europe, there's no guns really like that. You know, it's laid back. You know, there's no food coloring. You ain't gonna find Frosted Flakes and all that. You gonna find caviar and all that in your.

[Fat Joe]

Last night. I was at Nobles with my wife, and for no reason. Security nigga, he looked like Israeli or something. Like, he was like. He staring at my table. I'm like, right, that nigga dead ass staring at me. I'm like. I felt uncomfortable, right? I'm eating that because we a Noble. Everybody's hump. Why do I gotta be the thug nigga? You wanna. He obviously was somebody's security, and he was on me like I was do. I'm chilling with my family. I'm looking at him. Then he gets up. His David Beckham, Victoria Beckham walks out the Noble. I'm saying, but why had all niggas in here? They told him, watch him. I'm not bothering him or nothing like that. I'm sitting there like that. But, you know, that's that stereotype shit. Like.

[Jada Kiss]

You know, now y' all been to some incredible. I'll be following y'. All. I can't even pronounce some of the places y' all been doing shows.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jada Kiss]

What is it like in them other regions? And they sold out and crazy.

[Tony Yayo]

What is it to me that should be crazy? Like, I've been rolling for the last trenches. Like, you know, for me, for the last 10 years with fifth, that been like, next. Next month make 10 years. That should just be crazy. Like, you know what it'd be to me seeing that these people barely know English, right? But then when we go perform these records, they know all the words to the records. It's like, now they know English.

[Fat Joe]

I was like, get the out of the. Like Superman.

[Tony Yayo]

This is amazing.

[Fat Joe]

50 cent to some people is like Superman. Yeah, that should be bugging my people in Dubai. They say they learned the news from 50 Cent. All they news in America. They tell me 50 cents the news. They watch him. Okay? This is what's going on. And that's how they know in Dubai. 50 cent report the news, too, for me.

[Uncle Murda]

For me, I. I always say I don't want to be on a. Like a 50 cent, Jay Z, Nas level or certain artist level, because it's like you can't go outside and still you don't even have to do that. Yeah. So for me, you'll be in a suite. You staying in your room. 50 staying in his room. All right. Bet we got but to connect some dude. Yo, we gonna go to stay in Paris. We gonna eat at that restaurant. Oh, yo, we gonna go to Dubai. They got a fancy restaurant for us to eat. Or they wanna go to Ski Dubai in the mall or something like that. So the bigger you are as an artist, me just gets a little.

[Fat Joe]

I'm the reason Khalid got security. We went to Turks and Caicos. It was Covid. I did my 50th birthday right. Khaled took me out there. And we in the middle of the ocean. I look at the nigga, I said.

[Uncle Murda]

Yo, you too, too.

[Fat Joe]

You too big of a star now. He was like, what do you mean? I said, you need. Because he never had security. I was like, you need security. I said, like, real security. He said, what you mean? I mean, like, niggas in front of your house and all that. Cause you know, Selena, it was her number one fan who killed them. This everywhere I go with him is, oh, oh, everybody wilding. I'm like, you might get killed by one of your fans. Like John Lennon and all of it. Now I'm telling you, it's like that. You get to that point, I do a show, I tell you a story. I do a show in Miami. I sell it out. Maybe like 3,000 people, Bayfront. I'm sitting in the back. Five fans snuck in the back to get a little autograph. You know they snuck through, right? Yo, Crack. Yo, one pick this. All right, cool. Unannounced, Marc Anthony comes out of nowhere. He pulls his boat up, comes unannounced, 1000 niggas in the back. Oh, my God. Picture Marquette. I said, yo, it's different levels of fame. That man cannot go in the restaurant.

[Uncle Murda]

Yo, bro, we. We did a show. I think we was in Columbia again. This. This years ago with Yinsen and Vindell. And, yo, I'm telling You shout out to Edgar, this. This dude. That's why I tell you about the lat market. We playing soccer with JLO early in the morning.

[Fat Joe]

I'm like, what the fuck?

[Uncle Murda]

That's JLO niggas playing soccer. Just fuck. That's the experience I could tell you about. So she bought Mark Anthony out. I got pictures of him on Instagram and everything. So he came out and he started singing and the mic went out and the crowd just kept going crazy. Of course, Egga fired the mic man the next day, but he was like the Michael Jackson of fucking Latin music.

[Fat Joe]

Yes, yes.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm like, oh, shit.

[Fat Joe]

He's the only guy. Well, he's one of them now. Cause that. That whole shit just got big. But for many years, he was the only guy that could come today and be like, concert in Madison Square Garden tomorrow. That shit sold out of 10 minutes. Like, he done ran that fucking play so many times. Like, he'd be like, all right, Barclays. All right. Madison's like, he just. And it's sold out, sold out, sold out, sold out, sold out, sold out. Like this. It's never been a sold out show for Mark Anthony. He's like Mary J. Blige and R. Kelly combined type shit. Like, he's that like, Mark Anthony. We going.

[Uncle Murda]

You still listen to R. Kelly?

[Fat Joe]

Huh?

[Uncle Murda]

Still listen to R. Kelly?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I still listen to R. Kelly.

[Uncle Murda]

I ain't gonna lie. I was listening to Big shit. Can't. You can't.

[Tony Yayo]

Because I feel like his music didn't catch his sh.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah, you want to.

[Tony Yayo]

I like that one.

[Fat Joe]

So you listen to Gunna. Hold on, hold on. We got conversation. So it's no problem if a guy rats. You listen to their music and stuff.

[Uncle Murda]

I think right now people really don't care no more.

[Fat Joe]

Niggas don't care no more. We like dinosaurs.

[Uncle Murda]

It's like if you make good, if you could make good music regardless. To what? Look at Six Nine. Like, oh, I'm gonna still. I don't think he made good.

[Tony Yayo]

He didn't make good music.

[Uncle Murda]

Okay, okay. No, but listen, Joe, that nigga bottom of the barrel.

[Fat Joe]

That nigga's the gook in the project.

[Uncle Murda]

Hold on. When Six Nine got out of jail, right?

[Fat Joe]

I can't do it.

[Uncle Murda]

Did he have a record with Nikki right? When he got out of jail?

[Fat Joe]

When he got out of jail, he went on live and had 2 million people.

[Uncle Murda]

It was a hit at the time.

[Fat Joe]

It didn't age well. It didn't age well.

[Uncle Murda]

The views, man.

[Tony Yayo]

It didn't age well, it didn't age well. You got the era, and it got, like, some paid promos. And then if it dropped right after that.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, listen to me.

[Uncle Murda]

Listen, Joe, we in. Listen to me.

[Fat Joe]

All right, Well, I.

[Uncle Murda]

People don't care. They just want good music.

[Fat Joe]

Joseph Anthony Cartagena has the right not to say a nigga's a fuck nigga. And I ain't fucking with nothing he's doing or nothing he's saying or nothing he's doing or nothing.

[Uncle Murda]

And I don't. Everybody on that case took a plea.

[Fat Joe]

Hold up.

[Uncle Murda]

But no Gunna took a plea. Thugger took a plea. Cause it was on camera. You a rat. It's not like he cooperated. He was guilty already.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not calling him a rat as I'm here.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm just saying it all took a piece.

[Fat Joe]

You triggered something. Cause we started with R. Kelly, we went into Gunner. You're podcasting now. You gotta know that we're potting out here.

[Uncle Murda]

Oh.

[Tony Yayo]

Oh.

[Uncle Murda]

Changing my life, everybody.

[Fat Joe]

Why not?

[Uncle Murda]

Changing my life.

[Fat Joe]

Why not? If the young boys are doing the streaming and they caking up, why you can't hold on?

[Jada Kiss]

Should we just do our toast now?

[Uncle Murda]

Let's. We gotta make.

[Tony Yayo]

You know what? I agree.

[Uncle Murda]

Come on, let's do a toast. Let's.

[Tony Yayo]

I agree.

[Uncle Murda]

First.

[Jada Kiss]

Shout out to 1800 to Leela.

[Fat Joe]

Strictly the. The best.

[Tony Yayo]

Can we get some assistance over here?

[Jada Kiss]

Matter of fact, I was about to. This is Joe and Jada.

[Uncle Murda]

I thought I had beef with him. He got a Wu Tang shirt on.

[Fat Joe]

You have beef with you, Tank?

[Uncle Murda]

Look, everybody that I feed 50 beef with.

[Fat Joe]

50 ain't beef.

[Jada Kiss]

What are we doing? The mixed drink.

[Fat Joe]

I gave.

[Tony Yayo]

I gave Ghost Face. I gave Ghostface a pound at this. At the power premiere, right?

[Jada Kiss]

Y' all go straight up.

[Tony Yayo]

Real talk. I turned around and looked at my man.

[Fat Joe]

Yay.

[Uncle Murda]

Yo, straight.

[Jada Kiss]

Let me go straight.

[Tony Yayo]

He said, oh, moving funny, huh?

[Uncle Murda]

Supposed to be my man.

[Tony Yayo]

I said, what happened? He said, you know, I got issues with this.

[Fat Joe]

I said, whoa, I forgot. I'm not gonna lie to you, J. Y'. All. I said hi two days in a row to two suckers. I said hi to two suckers two days in a row. I'm not gonna lie to you. I won't tell you who, but I'm just saying. Another rat, he ratted on y'. All. I'm up in the. The store, and he happened to be up in there. He sticks his hand out. I'm like, yo. He tried to actually like my. I was like, yo, boom. That Was. But I wasn't supposed to say hi to him, right? And then today when I came up in some dude, you know, he was like, yo, Joe, you remember me? I'm such and such. I was like, yo, another sucker nigga like two days in a row.

[Uncle Murda]

Can I ask you a question? Is there such thing as selective niggas that we know as rats and certain don't want to say?

[Fat Joe]

Very select. Even me.

[Uncle Murda]

If it did for me, I would look at Joe.

[Tony Yayo]

I can't fight Joe say even me.

[Fat Joe]

Even me. I say what's up to certain rats when I know they he's a rat. I ain't got no business saying hi. It's selective.

[Uncle Murda]

Shit is real now. Cause just because. Could we agree just because he is real.

[Jada Kiss]

Yeah. What about the rats that are killing?

[Uncle Murda]

They'll kill you.

[Fat Joe]

No, no.

[Jada Kiss]

Killer rat.

[Tony Yayo]

That's a killer rats out here.

[Fat Joe]

Thank you, brother. Damn, he gave me the big shit now, yo.

[Jada Kiss]

1800. Ladies and gentlemen. You gotta make a large extensive announcement.

[Fat Joe]

You heard.

[Jada Kiss]

Welcome to Real report to the Volume family, which is Tony. Yeah, Uncle Murder. They have their own podcast on Valium.

[Tony Yayo]

Definitely. We part of the Valium up family.

[Jada Kiss]

They going through the Joe and Jada feed. That means we getting money together.

[Tony Yayo]

Exactly.

[Jada Kiss]

Let's toast some 1800.

[Tony Yayo]

You heard. Definitely, definitely.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out, my brother.

[Jada Kiss]

Dropping in January.

[Tony Yayo]

Dropping in January.

[Fat Joe]

The real report.

[Jada Kiss]

I need them to have 500,000 subscribers out of the game.

[Fat Joe]

Well, let me tell you.

[Tony Yayo]

And we definitely wanted. And this happened crazy. This happened on the strength of Fat Joe. We seen them in Germany. Can't even lie. We seen. We seen Fat Joe at Germany. Me and Yay was talking about some things that we was trying to do. And no. Joe was just like, why?

[Uncle Murda]

What done?

[Tony Yayo]

I'mma get you the situation then. Yeah, he actually got the situation. So Joe Rich play. I see you Rich.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out to Rich too.

[Jada Kiss]

Hold on, hold up. I have to kid. I don't want to thank me. They came to me and said, what do you think about murdering yo?

[Uncle Murda]

I said, hell yeah. Let them hold.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out to my kiss you hurt. Shout out to my J to kiss.

[Jada Kiss]

Flowers for that my business part.

[Tony Yayo]

Damn, Joe, you ain't mentioned that. Joe.

[Uncle Murda]

Joe be busy, man.

[Jada Kiss]

My job.

[Fat Joe]

I can't sleep right if I don't get my partner some money.

[Uncle Murda]

So I love it.

[Fat Joe]

That's my job.

[Uncle Murda]

Hello.

[Fat Joe]

Okay. So I'm always thinking about my business partner. And whatever we do, I can't have this shit fail. I can't have him walking in the streets. I'm like, yo, you believe I put in six, eight months with Joe, man, we ain't making a dollar. This, this. I need him to win because he believed in me. And I said, yo, let's do this. So I need him on the mountaintop.

[Jada Kiss]

This is the Vapors, man. They ain't think we could do it, man.

[Fat Joe]

No, we knew we can.

[Tony Yayo]

N. Y did that, man. Y did that.

[Jada Kiss]

I did that.

[Uncle Murda]

And they the best dress.

[Jada Kiss]

You know what the vape.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something.

[Uncle Murda]

I think what's your dress but all that. What's y dress but. Cause I'm not spending all my money on that.

[Fat Joe]

You ain't got to do that if.

[Jada Kiss]

You don't quarter sit.

[Fat Joe]

Don't start it.

[Jada Kiss]

Oh, regularly.

[Uncle Murda]

You good.

[Jada Kiss]

Get your set where you can smoke. Make your shit leisure for you.

[Uncle Murda]

Well, you. You know what they always say about G.D. n? They know how to dress. Cause we mad long of just wearing hoodies. These niggas is good.

[Fat Joe]

My name is 50.

[Uncle Murda]

N was on that Hermes and all that way back, niggas was wearing the uniform. Yeah. So if you wear in a uniform, that's how the G Unit clothes were selling.

[Fat Joe]

Let's not talk about G Unit fashion. Yo, listen. Yo, Mur, let me tell you something. No, I do. I do. Something I never understood. Murder. Something I never understood. How did you get into G? Like you and fucking. Yay. Yo, how did this happen? How did you get Fitz like Tetris with the. Well, he wasn't in the original G Unit.

[Tony Yayo]

You know what it was fifth tried to sign me damn near before Jay Z, right? Cause I was. I was. God rest in peace. I was managed by Chris Lighty.

[Fat Joe]

I remember that.

[Tony Yayo]

The rest in peace, Chris Lighty. Chris was trying to cover. He tried to make the whole 50 play happen.

[Jada Kiss]

Before Jay Z seen that you fit with the.

[Tony Yayo]

He seemed like, yo, this is perfect. But you know what it was. I had a meeting up there with Chris. He called me to the office one day and he like, yo, we gonna. I just get there, me and a couple of my guys. And he don't tell me 50 is coming in the meeting. He don't say, like, yo, we gonna meet with 50 today. So I'm just there, Me and a couple of my guys, we chilling. Everybody, you know at that time, niggas running around so crazy. Everybody got their shit in their pocket. We also. We there, 50 just busting the meeting.

[Fat Joe]

Boom.

[Tony Yayo]

What's up? Looking for a deal. And at this time, I said certain shit about 50 like, coming up. So I was Already talking shit about everybody in the game. So when he pop up, I'm like, oh, nah, he on some bulls. This is setup. That's exactly. Cause he coming in like, nigga, you looking for a deal real? I'm like, yeah, not from you. He like, yo, listen, man, I heard that you said about me. He said, you don't know me, though. He said, ain't no real beef. You don't know me. But young. So at the time, I'm thinking he's trying to line me up. You know what I'm saying? So we have. We going back and forth, having mad dialogue, talking about. He's like, what you think Jay Z.

[Fat Joe]

Gonna come for you? I'm like, yeah, Jay gonna come.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah, Jay gonna come for me.

[IBM Executive]

Brooklyn.

[Tony Yayo]

He talked. We going back and forth. Then he asked me and my previous one, he said, yo, man, man, what y' all niggas think y' all gonna sell if you drop? I said, what? Oh, we gonna go. Shit, we gonna go gold.

[Jada Kiss]

Platinum.

[Tony Yayo]

The first week, nigga. In his head, he was like, you know what? It don't matter. He told me years later, he was like, yo, at that point when y' all niggas was like, yeah, we gonna go gold to platinum. He said, I knew it didn't matter what I did for you. At that time, y' all would have felt like y' all already was gonna do that on your own, so you probably was gonna flip on the N. Say, because you thought this shit was be gonna gonna. You thought this was gonna cross off.

[Uncle Murda]

Anyway, this is the you real talk.

[Tony Yayo]

So he thought, like, he was looking like. He was looking like, yo, damn, you. At that time, y' all already thought y' all was bigger than what it was. So I couldn't do nothing for y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[Tony Yayo]

You would have flipped on the. You would have thought, nah, we was gonna do this already. So he was like, yo, it's crazy how now everything worked out perfect. How it was like, now. Cause it was crazy. After Jay came for me after that time, I seen him. So I seen the matt. They're like, yeah, I thought you said Jay wasn't coming, nigga. He was like, oh, well, let's see what he do. Cause we. I still had to go to Valley over.

[Uncle Murda]

You know what I'm saying?

[Tony Yayo]

So we still a bumping to each other. So he like, all right, let's see what Jay do. Like, I had the Brooklyn record. I'm feeling myself, nigga. Brooklyn record. I think I'm popping. Jay leaves Def Jam shortly after that. I run him the fifth again. He brought everybody out of that Governor's Island. I think you was there too. He brought everybody outta Governor's Island. He caught me in the truck. Cause I didn't even know he was in the truck watching all the artists get on the ball boat, going to the. To the island to perform. So fifth was. Just happened to be in the truck. So somebody came to see your 50, want to talk to you. Like where? He had to stay right there in the truck. I get in the truck, he go, yeah, what happened with that Jay Z? I'm like, yo, yeah, it didn't work out. He said, listen, if I get another situation, we gonna make this right this time. And that was it years ago. But then we wind up making it right and worked out perfect. Worked out perfect. You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Murda]

No, you know what was the problem? When he was so stupid that, yeah, this guy go. He was 50 cent. He was dumb.

[Tony Yayo]

But you know what's crazy though? I did.

[Uncle Murda]

And that's it.

[Tony Yayo]

We felt like.

[Uncle Murda]

Just like how you had Terror Squad and certain artists could feel like they are Fat Joe after a while. Same thing. Delusional.

[Fat Joe]

My.

[Uncle Murda]

So he was delusional. The bag was.

[Jada Kiss]

You felt like that.

[Tony Yayo]

You felt like that.

[Uncle Murda]

The bag was there for.

[Fat Joe]

He understands it now just like you. We all understand it. Me, I always knew my position. If I was number two, my brother was number one. I hold the door for him. I don't give a fuck. I'm not lying. The umbrella for pun. I don't give a fuck. I know my position. I've always played. But right now, I could play my position right now. If a Billy come and be like, yo, we find the whole Joe and Jada. But, yo, you gotta. I know my position. Give me my 100 million. I know my position. They can say, give me 100 million.

[Tony Yayo]

Based on my position.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, I gotta.

[Uncle Murda]

Nah, I gotta eat. It'd be hard signing artists and having artists because they start feeling like, you know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

They the most ungrateful niggas. How about hip hop? Right? Hip hop. If we talk about hip hop in a whole.

[Uncle Murda]

Oh, man, you want to get into that for real? It'll be a debate in here.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know what a. What you think I'm talking about.

[Uncle Murda]

Oh, I. Like, I was.

[Jada Kiss]

You don't even know.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Murda]

Let me hear him.

[Fat Joe]

Let me hear him. Jada.

[Uncle Murda]

I was going to say, like. Like, like, for me, like one of my biggest debates on Nori's show was when niggas said. Said Ice Cube was better than Biggie, right? So I'll just be looking at like. I heard DJ Self say, yo, Ice Cube better than Nas. So I'll be looking like, no, he delusional. I just be bugging. Cause like, I'm always gonna give my honest.

[Fat Joe]

Ice Cube is one of the greatest ever lived in the history of mantime. But better than Biggie. Look, I got Biggie at. At number one and maybe number two.

[Uncle Murda]

I got Biggie. You. You rap with me. Yup. You know what I mean? You rap. So for me, like, when I'm out of town, I'm arguing with Slim Thug backstage on.

[Fat Joe]

On.

[Uncle Murda]

On tour. And the first thing, they always use this one line against Biggie. That just get me tight. You look so good, I'll suck on you.

[Fat Joe]

Suck your damage. Look, it's the original pause before Pa even invented.

[Tony Yayo]

But it's still a pause if you say it now.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but they got.

[Jada Kiss]

I got his light when it.

[Fat Joe]

That was Pa. Yo, B, I don't know if you know how changed I rolled for big.

[Tony Yayo]

I had so much problems in the West.

[Fat Joe]

No, you tell him we could have helped you, huh? O came out after you left. Check this.

[Jada Kiss]

That's how Illy was. He died mad years before Pa even invented.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, what I'm saying though. You see B out there, you be like, yo, B, that people use when.

[Uncle Murda]

They talk about Big, he looks so good. That. Didn't that come from like a comedian or something like that?

[Fat Joe]

It don't matter.

[Uncle Murda]

Old school. But that's the. I fight for New York. York. When I'm out of town, I fight for New York.

[Jada Kiss]

It's like the Fed.

[Tony Yayo]

Well, I'm not.

[Fat Joe]

I'm gonna keep it real with you. I'm a New Yorker. But if you nice from anywhere, I give it up on the left.

[Uncle Murda]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jada Kiss]

Give it up more than with the Mecca. I take us against anybody.

[Uncle Murda]

Thank you.

[Fat Joe]

Of course, of course. But what I'm saying to you is right now, you know, now the way they try to switch, they try to act like Eminem wasn't the greatest at where he came by.

[Jada Kiss]

Eminem is that nigga, if you don't go.

[Fat Joe]

Let me ask question. You don't hear them saying that.

[Jada Kiss]

I hear stupidity.

[Fat Joe]

You don't know what in the 1800, I'm better at Tequila. He's starting to speak with fluidity, this guy. You know, this guy is.

[Jada Kiss]

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[Fat Joe]

This is bad.

[Jada Kiss]

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[Fat Joe]

Netflix. What's up baby?

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[Uncle Murda]

All.

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[Jada Kiss]

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[IBM Executive]

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[Jada Kiss]

To listen to the full conversation, visit IBM.com smarttalks. Oh, speaking of fluidity, I was watching the Knicks game and you can never take class. God's job if you can't use words like ubiquitous, he can use the word ubiquity. I was ready to call you, say, oh, hang it up. Try.

[Fat Joe]

His grandma. His grandma. You Rick. You wish. This guy, Clyde Frazier, you know, we doing good. You a Nick fan?

[Uncle Murda]

You know, of course.

[Fat Joe]

Look, we're winning. It's never been a time where you could just look at the Knicks and just assume we're winning. I watched the game last night for no reason. We won by 20. I'm watching.

[Tony Yayo]

You know, they gonna win, you know.

[Fat Joe]

But what I'm saying is they keep coming up to me. White, Jewish, ladies, Asian ladies, everybody saying, yo, Karl Anthony, gotta go. We need Giannis. So I'm this, ladies, Giannis, Giannis, this. If Art. What is it? Art Bazu. They coming up to me, hey, Nick fan. I'm like, hey. He was like, call Anthony. Gotta go. Damn, we need y'.

[Uncle Murda]

All.

[Fat Joe]

I said, damn, we winning.

[Uncle Murda]

I don't think so.

[Fat Joe]

We went to the final.

[Jada Kiss]

Leave it. Leave it how it is.

[Fat Joe]

Leave it how it is. Right? That's what I'm saying.

[Jada Kiss]

But if we. If we could get Giannis without giving ring.

[Uncle Murda]

They gonna want you to give up the whole team. Damn near the whole team for Giannis.

[Tony Yayo]

They trying to give up OG too, right?

[Fat Joe]

They talking about og I know he giving up the whole team for.

[Jada Kiss]

He stuck with Brunson and Giannis, Then we gonna be back to Gramps, Then everybody gonna be mad.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah. Ain't lying, leaving.

[Jada Kiss]

They already changed.

[Tony Yayo]

I see that.

[Uncle Murda]

I see that.

[Fat Joe]

We gotta rewind the tape to the Stephen A episode where he was up there, he hiding with somebody.

[Jada Kiss]

Stephen A said, give him the D, I'll give him the Knicks dick.

[Uncle Murda]

Get rid of everybody. To be honest, I give up the.

[Jada Kiss]

Dancer, give the dances a couple trades, couple people off the bench. If they. They gonna want Karl Anthony Towns, OG Bridges.

[Fat Joe]

So let me ask you something, right? Our beef in the past was more like, if we bump into them, it's.

[Uncle Murda]

On World War 73.

[Fat Joe]

But you allegedly had beef where they shooting at your house and shit like that. Is this true? No, no. I'm asking you, like.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

So they were shooting at your. You're eating dinner and bullets are flying through the window.

[Uncle Murda]

Every beef that we had, thank God.

[Jada Kiss]

Nobody got hurt off.

[Uncle Murda]

That, to me, was inherent, right? So, of course, look. So when you look at Chris Lighten, rest in peace to Chris Lighten, you know, that's all we knew was Chris Lighty. We go to the office, you know, any kind of artist is there. Everybody's getting managed by Chris Lightning. Right. So down the block was Henchman. Henchman was down the block from Chris Lighty's office. Right on the block.

[Fat Joe]

40.

[Uncle Murda]

40 was on the corner. Henchman was right here, and Chris Lighty was right there.

[Jada Kiss]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murda]

So that was more like an inheritance. Like the beef was inherited. There'd be a lot of like, yo, 50 hate now. It be a lot of behind the scenes. Don't even know that. I could tell you that's like, ain't no henchmen. And Bitey had a fight at daddy house. I ain't never them got it on. Yeah, like. Like Henchmen was pressing that. You know what I'm saying? You know how it was. It was golden era back then. You remember when Chris had beef with my son and them back in the days, like, it was a lot of going on.

[Fat Joe]

He got a job with positivity. I think I squashed that beat.

[Uncle Murda]

So I'm not. Look, I'm not going to say look with ex.

[Fat Joe]

Yes, sir, bro. Don't play with me, Jada.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah, look, I'm not going to say Henchman. It wasn't.

[Fat Joe]

I had to beat at Parkchester. I had the meeting at Parkchester the very the next day for Chris Lighty to squash that beef.

[Jada Kiss]

Right. Hold that right there.

[Fat Joe]

Go ahead.

[Uncle Murda]

So with the Henchman, I'm not going to say it wasn't a serious beat. If you do something to somebody's son, I expect you. You know what I'm saying? Supposedly to. To get busy. Supposedly. Whatever happened with him, right? So, look, this how everything really started. And I'm not niggas in jail. Everybody know what happened. I ain't telling. I ain't driving. Who kid started the whole thing. I'm gonna tell you why. DJ Hooky. Oh, y' all not.

[Jada Kiss]

Oh, honey, I need a green flag. All right, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[Uncle Murda]

Look, I'm fresh out of jail. I don't know nothing. I don't know. I don't like. All I know is do always tell.

[Tony Yayo]

Me this story, though.

[Uncle Murda]

There you go, man, I'm fresh out of jail. I don't know nothing. All I know is fifth guy niggas on. I was with this from 1998 when he was doing Rider, router, and on Columbia Records. I was with him back then.

[Fat Joe]

You like Kobe? You like Kobe Bryant? I hated him while he was alive, and when he died, I cried 12 hours. This here, I hated him because he rolled with 50. But I love disloyalty. I was like, man, we need A.

[Uncle Murda]

Like, gotta understand I was fucking with 50 since 1998. That was the homie. Like, we was going to Columbia Records. This is before he got shot records with Destiny's Child in the studio. Niggas getting kicked out the studio. I was there for all that. You know what I'm saying? So that's just the homie that's the first nigga. I'm a hood nigga. That first nigga went to Mexico. I think it was the deep cover soundtrack. He was on Rowdy Rowdy back then. And we went to Cancun. I'm like, damn, I'm off the block with DJ who? Kid, I'm fresh out of jail. Niggas give me a Bentley. I got jewelry, I got the Jacob watch.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Fur.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm fur on. I'm fucking running through Brooklyn.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not doing this yet. I'm not doing this yet.

[Uncle Murda]

Look, I'm taking chances that I could have got smoked any day. I'm like in Fort Green. I'm in the plazas. I'm fucking seeing Mayno in Brooklyn. I'm in Harlem, running the niggas like I'm in the Bentley. I'm everywhere. Anywhere. I just didn't care. I came out of jail, was reckless. Young nigga didn't know nothing, right? So UK is like, yo, what's my man that passed away? Let's go to the mixtape awards. Was it dj? Just rest in peace, DJ Justo Mixtape Awards. I'm hyped because we was on all the mixtape. I didn't know Apollo was gonna be Rikers island when I got there.

[Tony Yayo]

Should have never went to no fucking mixtape.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, look, versus his shit was like, Riker's Island.

[Uncle Murda]

That's what I'm saying. So look, we get to the mixtape awards. I had no idea. I'm just out of jail. I'm like, I ain't know she was gonna be Rikers. Allison. Apollo was Riker. Niggas. Attica Green. That shit was walking the yard. Little niggas in there.

[IBM Executive]

I got a story.

[Uncle Murda]

Crazy son. Wasn't no chicks.

[Fat Joe]

None of that was crazy.

[Uncle Murda]

Look, it was no chicks.

[Fat Joe]

I know those environments.

[Uncle Murda]

Nothing but gangsters. So I'm looking around.

[Fat Joe]

No, you walk in the wrong environment. You like, yo, what is this? C76?

[Uncle Murda]

Who you think it was hosted by?

[Tony Yayo]

Who?

[Uncle Murda]

Jimmy Henchman? Who was we beefing with at that time? The game.

[Fat Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Murda]

Right?

[Fat Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Murda]

Think about it. About it. That's why you. You know, I always say, yo, I don't know how game is with henchmen. Because henchmen is always mentioned with pop. Just hate when you keep it real because I'm always logical. So back to the story. So was henchmen. So we there now. You know how henchman is. This is a gangster. You know how that go. Trying to put the fake press on me. Come over there. It's like Haitian Jack. You know, you got a patient Jack and tut and all these wild running around back in the days, grimy like, yo, Sockpa said. So I'm looking at him, and he got his hand out. I'm like, yo, I don't want to go back and report that I'm giving this. That I can't do that. I'm just a real like that. If I don't with you, I don't with you. Like, yo, get the out of here. He go, what you a rapper? You know, you're a street. So he think, get out of you a rapper. So he. And then it just insinuated from there. But it was really because all the gang. Cause I didn't understand because I was on Game first album. So I'm an appreciative nigga. I'm the nigga. Like, yo, I've been in the studio with Dr. Trey right now. I'm one of them niggas. Like, if I'm in the studio with y' all niggas, I'm an appreciative nigga. Like, yo, I can't believe him in Dr. Dre. He's opening a cabinet full of Henny. He fucking got the guido bud. Like, yo, this shit is crazy, niggas. I don't even care if I made it. He made it. I'm just happy to be here. I'm in the studio with Eminem. Oh, oh. I'm at parties with Serena Venus. And what I'm not stepping them and saying. I'm just like, oh, I can't believe I'm in the party. Jim Carrey. Out of here, man. See this on tv. One time we was at a party seeing Wesley Snipes. I started tweaking, started thinking about New Jack City and all that. I'm tweaking like, oh, let's call this Nino Brown. So for me, it's the experience of. But back to the henchman. That's what it started over. And then my Bentley got shot up. And back of the pilot.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not gonna say, oh, that night.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah, that same night when I was like, get the out of here. It was mad funny shit going on. Maserati Fox did another dumb out Rest in peace to Mazi. Crazy nigga from Queens. He there. So we in that shit. It's like Rikers Island. So now when I say get the fuck outta here, he had his man's there. Some niggas from, like, you know, I think they from Staten island named Teflon. He. He was part of his case and all that, right? Words was being said. So my man Kev, he just fresh up north from, like, doing, like, 14 years. So one of henchman mans had, like, a bottle behind him. So my man turned around and said, what the you gonna do with that? I was kind of surprised. I'm like, Damn, that did 14 years. Don't care about a. With a bottle behind him. I would have been like, he got a bottle. He just. What the you gonna do with that? So it was like mad going on, pulling out him, you know what I'm saying? Was crazy. So I got the Bentley in the bp. I jump into bp, came walk by, lit the Bentley up in Harlem. That's why I always say, watch them Harlem streets.

[Jada Kiss]

What about, piss on it? What about, did they set your BP on fire and you was in it and you had time to call and fire my man?

[Uncle Murda]

My man's had the BP league and shot up the crib and hit up the bp Monster, all right? They shot up his windows. And Monster was bugging because he was beefing with. And he moved to Staten island, but still was in the hood. And it was crazy because the. That was Henchman man was from Staten island, so he'll drive my Bentley and had a Bentley there. So knew, you know what I'm saying.

[Fat Joe]

Where he was at.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah, knew, like, the shot up his window, you know, and, like, set the garbage on fire. That was crazy. It was a whole bunch of shit. I ain't gonna lie. That henchman was like. That was like, you guys had some.

[Fat Joe]

Serious beefs out there. Ours was the lightest one, you know what I'm saying? Y' all was out here. I'm like, yo, they. I said, these guys got a lot of problems out here. My best friend that ever lived, I got his. The only tattoo I got is Tone Montana.

[Tony Yayo]

Huh?

[Fat Joe]

Tom Montana to fly. He was similar to 50 Cent, like fat Joe, believe it or not. It's a tough guy, but I'm a guy you could talk to and get it.

[Uncle Murda]

You could squash it with me.

[Fat Joe]

I'm a diplomatic guy. This guy had beef with everybody we ever knew, Love, whatever. And I got. I understand. I gotta stand there and be like, yo, Tone, this. So I'M be like, yo, man, fuck that, my nigga. You know, this, this, that. And I'm standing there in the hallway with him. I'm like, this, niggas, we know and all that, and it gotta happen. There's only one time I folded on him. My man. Rest in peace, Black Dave. I mean, we was in kindergarten together. Tone start arguing with. I mean, we brothers. Like, I mean, like, I want to Dave, yeah, Tone Montana, my best friend in the world. But Black Dave, I wanted him to marry my sister. Rest in peace. This is my brother, right? And then Tone start arguing with him. But Tone do allegedly that he don't do this. Black Dave, these. We used to call him Slam Master. So I said, yo, Tone. So Dave don't care. He's not scared. He don't think you're gonna hit him. We from the same hood. He's like, yo, he give yo, Tone, I fucked you up. And I'm in the middle. I'm like, yo, let's leave it alone. This, this, that. So Dave grabs him, slams Tone. And Tone looking at me like, yo, you ain't gonna give it to Black Dave. I was like, your Tone, I can't give it to Black Dave like this. Want you to give it to everybody. Like you're. And we had special languages where the could smile at you. And he lining you up. Yo, Sc, that be yo, like, we had that. You didn't even know the was coming. I'll be like, no, scare that boom. He be like, SC that boom.

[Uncle Murda]

Think how GR it was back in the day.

[Fat Joe]

Crazy out here, baby.

[Uncle Murda]

Even like with the Josh, like Sony Studios back in the days. Look, I was there for that. Like, that was a crazy experience because you had both studios. You had studio on this side, studio on that side. Y' all remember that, that block? What was it? 28th Street?

[Jada Kiss]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, that was that shit. 28th. That was 50.

[Uncle Murda]

You never know they had the studio.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you needed money to be in them studio.

[Uncle Murda]

That shit was great. Like, I used to see fucking Wyclef. He'd be with Jackson back, Scooter Tut henchmen. You see? Oh, these look like three you don't want to see at night.

[Fat Joe]

I'm gonna tell you the craziest thing, right? Those guys, I swear to God, I don't know why I'm not really. I know everybody think I cap and all that, but I'd be standing there with $2 million of Jew telling jokes to Haitian Jack the Crybaby. All them. Them crazy, right? Right? Maybe like Joe One second and go across the street, rob a nigga for some shit. This thin come back, Joe tell his story. Like, yeah, you know, these niggas, this pussy nigga, this. I thought, joe, you crazy. This, this, this. They never tried me. Like, I used to be in front of them, loaded with jury. Them niggas. I used to be like, what? They'd be like, yo, you see the rapper? I'm going to rob them right now. I'm like, what N We know? They come back with the niggas change. Oh, finish the story, Fat Joe. Yo, this, this. This is the crazy niggas.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Always loved me, don't know why.

[Uncle Murda]

Me too. I feel like that, too. I feel like that was a. That. Like, how you say you was always outside? Like, I was outside when. When there was Carl Michaels, the. The restaurant in the gas station at Baisley. You know, when seeing Pream and my man in Oopdy, yo, don't scratch his car. That's preen. The whole project's gonna kill us. I was the on the block black. Just come to the block with Nas. I was one of them outside. Like, I've seen all the real niggas outside. E money bags come through, all looking for N beefing with N. You know what I'm saying? I was one of them N always, always outside. That was just me. So for me, I never thought I was gonna leave the hood. So when I got in the game, I was just excited. Every beef was inherited. Like I said back to Chris Lighty and henchman. That was never my beef.

[Fat Joe]

Chris Lighty saved my life. Celeste, you mentioned him too much for me not to explain.

[Uncle Murda]

I love Chris Lighty.

[Fat Joe]

Chris Lighty. I watched him put in work. Work, allegedly in the Bronx with my own eyes. You know how we say we outside.

[Uncle Murda]

Of the same black judges, the tunnel and all that? No.

[Fat Joe]

In the Bronx, Chris Lighty was putting in. By the way, if you don't know.

[Uncle Murda]

His team, what was his team called back in the days?

[Fat Joe]

The Violated, some shit. I'm telling you with my own eyes, I seen Chris Lighty put in work. Just innocent bystander at the end of the party, Club air out. I seen it myself.

[Uncle Murda]

So I'm just telling you this, right?

[Fat Joe]

So I knew who he was. So we getting money. I got the promo out. Red alert's playing the promo.

[Uncle Murda]

Thank you.

[Fat Joe]

Red alert, man. You saved my life. And Chris Lighty come to my block where I'm getting money. We got Benzes, Beamers out there, all that. He says, yo, man, you know who I am. And I said, yeah, I know who you is. You Baby Chris. He was Baby Chris, right? So you Baby Chris. He said, yo, I think you could be a rapper like you the one with the promo, Fat Joe. I said, yeah. He said, I want to sign you. I got this new label, was Violator, was Chi Ali, the beat nuts. Then me, he came to my block and I signed in the middle of the block. No lawyer.

[Uncle Murda]

Wow.

[Fat Joe]

That's why I'll tell you, when the nigga want to sign, he going to sign. All that chasing the nigga or this? Nah, when they want to sign, they sign. I signed in the middle with a block like this. He gave me like 50,000. I showed everybody a legit. You know, I had paper at the time, but I'm showing everybody y' all legit. Check, I'm legit.

[Uncle Murda]

Look, that's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

I'm the just showing the whole hood of legit, y'.

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All.

[Fat Joe]

I'm legit. This is that. And then I changed my whole life from there. I took a big pay cut, right, to be a rapper at that time. I tell them all the time, Flo Jo was number one. I was getting $500 a show, running that bitch up three a week. Mount Vernon, White Plains in the Bronx, the next day, Virginia, Washington, D.C. philly. I'm just, I'm, you know, I got the chitlin circuit, you know what I'm saying? But Chris Lighty saved my life and.

[Uncle Murda]

Saved mine too, man.

[Fat Joe]

One thing he always wanted to do was bring peace between us. Yeah, he sit down with me all the time, be like, yo, Joe and this and that. And I used to tell him, y' all don't trust this guy Chris.

[Jada Kiss]

Sure, this guy Chris Lighty came to the hood meeting with Styles sp. Stabbed the. And got a year.

[Tony Yayo]

Look at that.

[Fat Joe]

At the meeting.

[Uncle Murda]

Hold on. That's when he was on the island for stabbing the in. In the buttocks.

[Jada Kiss]

Yeah, he stabbed the. In the head.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah, I was on the island the same time he was on the island. That's crazy. No, he was locked up. I was locked up the same time Styles was because they was talking about our islands, saying he stabbed the.

[Jada Kiss]

You know, the.

[Uncle Murda]

He didn't have to stab him. It was.

[Jada Kiss]

It was like a. We give him money to go get a 40.

[Fat Joe]

His name was the Uncle Murder. They shot you in the head. That, you know.

[Tony Yayo]

But that story, I didn't really get shot in the head, right? So that. It wasn't.

[Uncle Murda]

I asked him that one day.

[Fat Joe]

It's a one shot deal. It's like, yo, and Murder on the hot seat.

[Uncle Murda]

I.

[Jada Kiss]

This language. A good question, but let me do what this all.

[Tony Yayo]

You know.

[Jada Kiss]

You know, it's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

When I met Uncle Murder. When I met Uncle Murder, everybody was like, that's the. Got shot in the head. That's how I met him.

[Jada Kiss]

Murder was down.

[Uncle Murda]

Rough ride. His first.

[Tony Yayo]

Exactly.

[Jada Kiss]

Let him do it.

[Tony Yayo]

Definitely. I was down with rough, right?

[Fat Joe]

He ain't lying.

[Tony Yayo]

You know what's crazy?

[Fat Joe]

I was.

[Tony Yayo]

I was like, he's shooting at you again. He's shooting at you.

[Uncle Murda]

Nah, that's a flag. You can shoot me in my mouth. He got us the deal, man.

[Jada Kiss]

Everybody was. Nelson Mandela's from the Bronx, Sylvester Stallone. You didn't even know it. You from south side to the bacon.

[Tony Yayo]

And you from Eron.

[Uncle Murda]

I got no wins up here.

[Fat Joe]

I'm Haitian.

[Jada Kiss]

Murder was down with. Look he hate.

[Tony Yayo]

I was down with Rough Riders first. That was my first home. You know what's crazy? I was on the run for a shooting. Allegedly, I shot somebody. Allegedly. Right? Real talk, D. Loved that. I'm on the run for a shoot, and I go to Hot 97 because I. I hear these guys on the radio. I hear the locks. I'm like, damn. If anybody can relate to my story right now. While I'm on the run, it got to be these dudes. All the shit they talking, we are the streets. It got to be them. So I tell my uncle, yo, we got the hurry up and go to high 97. The locks up there right now. This the opportunity. This my only opportunity. I'm on the run. I got to see them right now. He's like, you had to go to work the next morning, too. Like, all right, let's go. My Uncle Pete, we go up there. Never forget.

[Fat Joe]

I think.

[Tony Yayo]

I don't know if your leg was up or some kids, but I know you was already in the van at the time.

[Fat Joe]

This. He got them Kenny Smith shits on.

[Tony Yayo]

I hit him. So I go, I catch them up there. By the time they coming out the station, it's D, Styles ready. They're like, yo, kissing the van. But I spit some shit. Styles just grabbed the yo. Yo, D, this nigga is the truth. Bring him with us, right? He bring me in the van and see Kiss. I spit some shit, kissing it. Kiss like, yo, take my number, Rev. The first time I called Kiss, I didn't even know what the. I just called him, like, yo, it was me, Murder. He like, yo, what's up? I'm like, ain't shit I'm about to go to the studio. All right. I'm like, all right. I really ain't even know what to say. Cause I'm still trying to catch up on shit. Real talk.

[Uncle Murda]

So.

[Fat Joe]

So.

[Tony Yayo]

But the nigga D had me in the studio just around the just watching. They was doing the compilation first at the time. Just watching everybody. I was actually supposed to be on the shit. But my man he a here he be like, yo, man, we got to get back to the block, man. Street like, let's go to the block. These taking mad long. So we went back to the block.

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[Uncle Murda]

All.

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[Jada Kiss]

Hello. Hello. I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of the podcast smart talks with IBM. I recently sat down with IBM's chairman and CEO Arvind Krishna and I asked him, how can companies use AI to its fullest potential to create smarter business?

[IBM Executive]

My one advice to them, big ideas, you, you can scale. Don't pick the shiny little toys on the side. For example, if anybody has more than 10% of what they had for customer service 10 years ago, they're already five years behind. If anybody is not using AI to make their developers who write software 30% more productive today with the goal of being 70% more productive.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah. Wow.

[IBM Executive]

So we are not asking our clients to be the first experiment on it. We say you can leverage what we did. We are happy to bring out all our learnings, including what needs to change in the process. Because the biggest change is not technology. It's getting people to accept that there's a different way to do things.

[Jada Kiss]

To listen to the full conversation, visit IBM.com smart talks.

[Tony Yayo]

At the time I got grazed in the head. It was a better story to me at the time to say I got shot because I'm doing the whole rapture. I'm just down with Jay Z and everything. And I'm telling Greenland like, yo, we need something crazy. And I'm telling Chris and at the time I'm telling Jay and them too, because I'm signing at the top. I'm like, yo, we need something crazy to happen at this time. Right? So when did, when did shoot the cop.

[Uncle Murda]

What? Say he got shot in the head.

[Fat Joe]

They introduced it to him. Yo, the school murder. I shot. He st jo, all right?

[Tony Yayo]

Nigga shot the cop. I was there. But I guess the.

[Fat Joe]

The.

[Tony Yayo]

The gun wasn't his, like, of course. But the bullet, I guess, hit the glass, and the glass cut me a little bit. So then you had glass from the car, too. All over my face. So you and little blood. So as I'm in there, that's where.

[Fat Joe]

You did your photo shoot at, Uncle.

[Tony Yayo]

I'm like, you know what? I'm like, you know what?

[Fat Joe]

This a good.

[Tony Yayo]

As I'm in the ambulance, the guy said, yo, did you get shot? I'm like, I didn't get shot, but there's a bunch of blood on my face. Even hip hop police, the curly hair detective, he came. Curly head Sean, he came to the hospital. He said, so what the fuck happened to you? I said, yo, man, police shot me, man. He said, you play too fucking much, right? I said, yo, fucking police shot me, man. This is all is written up in all. I'm like, yo, police shot me, man. He said, you didn't get shot, though. I said, yeah, but that's a better story. I said that. I said, yo.

[Fat Joe]

I said, police shot me.

[Tony Yayo]

He said, there's nothing going on with you because it was just glass and shit, like on my head. But I feel like at the time, saying I got shot in the head was like, like, you said, you know, 50 got to go. I'm like, this is a super movie.

[Fat Joe]

I remember Andy Martinez and you.

[Tony Yayo]

And she was talking about that. She said, hey, you heard about Uncle Mur? You said, yeah, that guy's like your Terminator. I'm like, yo, this is perfect. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm beefing get shot in the head.

[Fat Joe]

Alleged. Everybody had. Everybody ran with that.

[Tony Yayo]

That's the story I was running with. Like, this is a good story right here. If a think I got shot in the head and survived, they got to go crazy.

[Fat Joe]

How many times be with you?

[Uncle Murda]

So he was capping, yo. So he was capping at the end of the day, yo, where's the flag? He was capping. He was capping, man.

[Tony Yayo]

A needed some promotion back then.

[Jada Kiss]

It definitely caught.

[Tony Yayo]

I remember I told Ms. How many times? How come? I told Ms. Info? I said, yo, when the bullet fall out my head, I'm gonna give it to you. You can ask Ms. Info thought I had a bullet for her.

[Jada Kiss]

I said, call you to check back for those guys.

[Tony Yayo]

Probably about six months later, she text, she checked.

[Uncle Murda]

Y' all gonna let him pass with that?

[Tony Yayo]

This info?

[Uncle Murda]

Y' all letting him pass with that cat?

[Tony Yayo]

That's how we do it.

[Jada Kiss]

I'm telling you what it is.

[Tony Yayo]

I'm telling you.

[Uncle Murda]

That's like a dad hat.

[Jada Kiss]

It ain't like a cap.

[Tony Yayo]

There you go.

[Jada Kiss]

He had a little bit of fragments.

[Tony Yayo]

There you go.

[Jada Kiss]

A little bit.

[Tony Yayo]

Glass did come.

[Jada Kiss]

Some cap is if got nothing.

[Uncle Murda]

When we. When this episode, I want you to play back the record of him rapping when he said he got shot in his head.

[Halion Brand Announcer]

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[Uncle Murda]

Put that on the playback so people.

[Fat Joe]

Know I met this somewhere. And he said, hey, I'm Murder, the guy who got shot in the head. You up out here, Joe. Now he capping with that.

[Uncle Murda]

How?

[Fat Joe]

They introduced me to him Uncle Murder, the guy got shot in the head. What's. What's up with your man?

[Tony Yayo]

Who that?

[Fat Joe]

Tell him Blanco sent you.

[Tony Yayo]

I said that to my Guy White. That's about Guy White the other day.

[Jada Kiss]

At the Having Ray show.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah. You know, he actually hit me to come out to that, too. He told me I was gonna.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, that shit was legendary.

[Jada Kiss]

That shit was legendary. Advocate Raekwon pulled at a legendary concert the other night.

[Fat Joe]

Night.

[Jada Kiss]

Mop locks, meth ghost.

[Tony Yayo]

Everybody definitely getting near.

[Uncle Murda]

Don't you love that? The, like, the. The super. It's like, when you look at all these artists from, like, when we started and y' all started, it's like, artist was like a superhero. Like, y' all could still go overseas like Avengers. Like, I see JRU the damager overseas, bro. Still eating. I see KRS1 overseas, bro.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody eats.

[Uncle Murda]

Yeah, it's just crazy.

[Fat Joe]

But Big Smokey Robinson still performing at 85.

[Jada Kiss]

Your fans, you gotta stop aging out. We gotta stop making hip hop.

[Uncle Murda]

Like, you feel like the new music is microwave music or. No, you feel like it's microwave.

[Jada Kiss]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

So right now, you know what it is? We look crazy listening to that shit you pulled up to me in the truck, and I'm playing some iggity viggety viggotty. You gonna be like, yo, this.

[Tony Yayo]

He be bumping that.

[Fat Joe]

When I see older dudes bumping that shit.

[Tony Yayo]

Listen, he be bumping that gun and sit. Don't let him fool you.

[Jada Kiss]

I'm music.

[Uncle Murda]

Listen. I listen to all kind of music. You know, I was listening on the way here. What didn't start or something, right? Hold on, let me talk. Because I always wanted to ask Jada, right. When you hear. When you hear that or ask y' all who the. That's like. If she went crazy on that, he went crazy. Mace, Styles, everybody. Dmx, rest in peace.

[Fat Joe]

She killed them a lot.

[Uncle Murda]

So my whole thing is like, who the fuck. That's the most controversial question. Who the fuck had the best. Best verse on there? And I felt like you and Mace was getting at each other on that record, too.

[Fat Joe]

At that time.

[Uncle Murda]

At that time.

[Jada Kiss]

Let me give you the.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm just keeping it real. I feel like Sheik want the Benjamin, but started something. Come on, bro.

[Fat Joe]

He said that. He said he did.

[Jada Kiss]

No, he did, because he got the. I feel like she thought he did.

[Fat Joe]

Sheik took Benjamin, bro.

[Jada Kiss]

But I'm talking about. So on the publisher side.

[Uncle Murda]

Started something. Stay on that record. We were still in that record.

[Jada Kiss]

Those records. We was all together at the same time. So everybody was going. We made that record, got recorded. Everybody's verse right there.

[Fat Joe]

Not one of them tomorrow.

[Jada Kiss]

Send it to Kansas, send it to Harlem.

[Uncle Murda]

You was in the studio.

[Jada Kiss]

Everybody hanging with us every day in Yo X Men Mace locks. We was all in the studio every day for months when we made that. And that was one of them shits. You trying to kill whoever go first.

[Uncle Murda]

So you was trying to kill Mace on that record because y' all sound.

[Jada Kiss]

Like y' all was trying to kill whoever.

[Uncle Murda]

It sound like y' all was doing somebody. Oh, okay.

[Jada Kiss]

No, it wasn't. I was trying to kill. What you gonna do if they put you on the court with Jordan, Ron, Kobe, Shaq, Tim, trying to go.

[Uncle Murda]

You don't want to be done. Started something was. That's one of the ones.

[Jada Kiss]

Is the fact we was all there. No, I mean, with the new way of music, it takes something out of it. If I gotta send you. You and Malibu when I'm in Southside, Jamaica, if we there together, I don't care what's happening, it's gonna suck the Enemy. Even though some serials the only way.

[Uncle Murda]

Some might be going off.

[Jada Kiss]

But if there's a chance you could be in the studio together, it's always going to sound.

[Uncle Murda]

I was in the studio with Big, though. For real. I just always wanted to ask you.

[Jada Kiss]

That illest nigga he had bar he wanted. He never needed his studio. He wrote sometimes I got it.

[Uncle Murda]

He wrote on paper.

[Jada Kiss]

I have a half of. I have like a quarter of. Oh, smoking line optimals that verse. I got the other paper.

[Uncle Murda]

Can I buy that?

[Tony Yayo]

Hell, hell no.

[Fat Joe]

Y. I can't lie to you. I never said that.

[Jada Kiss]

Kids.

[Fat Joe]

I never said that. I never said that.

[Uncle Murda]

You got some pun. Don't tell me you got some.

[Fat Joe]

He said it first.

[Uncle Murda]

I got.

[Fat Joe]

I was with Biggie when he did Hypnotize. He was on paper. I was with.

[Uncle Murda]

He was in the studio bigger, right?

[Fat Joe]

Studio with Biggie sps when he did Hypnotize.

[Jada Kiss]

Somebody got a whole three verses of him written. Because he even the I got is only a little bars then the rest gotcha.

[Fat Joe]

By the way.

[Jada Kiss]

Let me take.

[Uncle Murda]

That was my shit right there too.

[Fat Joe]

That 1800 is a special looking guy.

[Jada Kiss]

Last day. Yo, we still in the hood. So we in the. We in the hood selling crack, they call us. Yo, I gotta come to Daddy's house to get on big album. We still got joints on us we go to. We used to be in daddy's house with packs on the season. Them got finished sweaters and all that great style. We got army floor suits with black.

[Uncle Murda]

So oh, like these we gonna be like them.

[Jada Kiss]

But anyway, we there his day. We we on the block. So we bring like three, four of our with us. We get there big old mafia is there. Big got Branson. Then he got the liquid hay sometimes.

[Uncle Murda]

Oh the we Branson, Branson, the br. Yeah. Shout out to Branson coming back up.

[Jada Kiss]

Mayonnaise, jars of Branson. And he used to sometime was a rare occasion. They get this liquid hat cash that you got to put it on your finger, smear it on the blunt.

[Uncle Murda]

First he was with the hashish back, then his liquid late. Now he's writing them bars, doing the verses.

[Jada Kiss]

We find out that beat is from havoc. Niggas is hyped. We writing this. Everybody lay their verse and is high is knocked. Everybody in the whole studio is cloud 77 half base. As soon as is in a deep slum, yo, let me go and do my verse. Went and he was on a stool, but he was. His leg was still hurt. Dropped that and woke everybody up like they gave him smelling salt.

[Uncle Murda]

Rap superhero right there, bro.

[Jada Kiss]

If you notice on Life After Death, it's not that much features.

[Uncle Murda]

So.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah, it wasn't.

[Jada Kiss]

It was Young Locks, they'd be featured on there. It was a. That was a nice accomplishment.

[Uncle Murda]

Man. Diddy should have had that nigga bulletproof, man. I don't give a fuck. I still say that. Biggie my favorite rapper. All I be fighting old Big. That's my favorite. That shouldn't have been in Cali. So niggas always look at it like that. No disrespect to nobody.

[Fat Joe]

Shouldn't have been in Cali.

[Uncle Murda]

Just got kicked.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no.

[Jada Kiss]

Save it for your show.

[Uncle Murda]

Save it for what I said. He gonna talk about.

[Jada Kiss]

No, no. It's a good thing to talk.

[Fat Joe]

What's the fight?

[Jada Kiss]

That was our first time ever in la. I was with him.

[Uncle Murda]

You was with.

[Jada Kiss]

He was smiling. He was happy to be there. It's not one in the them. I'm seeing all these shits on the gram saying shits. Puff made him go there. He wanted to be there. He was happy. He was happier than I ever seen him at Daddy's house over there.

[Fat Joe]

Little C told us the same thing.

[Jada Kiss]

Party. Listen, I know you get mad, but you gotta keep it right.

[Tony Yayo]

You got.

[Fat Joe]

Let me say my pr.

[Uncle Murda]

I got you.

[Jada Kiss]

I got you down to the party that you see the last picture with the cane. The thing, him, Stevie J Party. Puff, we in there. We was mad. I don't know what son happened with Puff. We was over there.

[Uncle Murda]

Ice Grill.

[Jada Kiss]

We went over to him in that picture you see with the shades. The king, him shake that shit off. He told us was my single release. Whatever's going on with Diddy, we handle it when we get back home. Here goes. So Crystal or Don P, whatever was the thing. Gave us like 2 oz. Said go over there. Shake, smile, shake that shit off. We at my s single. And that was the last shit he ever said to me. Everybody left, went to the party. Then, yeah, that's when that should happen next time.

[Fat Joe]

What I could say to you is.

[Uncle Murda]

But Pac passed already. Why would you have him in la? That's all I'm saying. Pac was dead already. You know, the beef was.

[Jada Kiss]

You think about. It's a hard thing to say because I seen him.

[Fat Joe]

He was happy like Chris.

[Uncle Murda]

He was.

[Jada Kiss]

He wasn't. They come, they want to kill. That was like.

[Tony Yayo]

He was chilling. He was chilling.

[Uncle Murda]

I understand. But I just in my mind when I look at hip hop we got.

[Jada Kiss]

Because we get to look at it now.

[Tony Yayo]

We get to look at being a little older now. Now we older.

[Jada Kiss]

Nowhere near that.

[Fat Joe]

So y' all don't agree, but when.

[Tony Yayo]

We look at it now, you're right.

[Fat Joe]

I He shouldn't have been over there. But what they're trying to say, what him and Little C said on here was he wanted to be there. It ain't like we thinking, but force the nigga to go.

[Uncle Murda]

I'm not.

[Fat Joe]

They said he wanted to be there.

[Jada Kiss]

I was negligent. I be each his own bottle of 1800. If I didn't speak to him, I seen him. He told us. What did I mean? He told me. I see it. If I didn't Even. Yeah, I peed with Yayo. Cause I love that nigga. It crushed me my first time in la. Bi shot. I still had a beeper.

[Fat Joe]

My mind's just beeping me.

[Tony Yayo]

This is facts.

[Uncle Murda]

That's crazy. I didn't even know you was there.

[Jada Kiss]

All the way down, full nav.

[Uncle Murda]

But it's my mom's.

[Tony Yayo]

Because he know you with Big. Of course. Of course.

[Jada Kiss]

That grow. When I go down that block, when I go to that light, to this, I shake. But I seen, I spoke.

[Tony Yayo]

I was next to him.

[Jada Kiss]

He was.

[Uncle Murda]

He was.

[Jada Kiss]

He wasn't you.

[Tony Yayo]

He didn't seem like he was forced to be there.

[Jada Kiss]

He was one of the happiest I actually ever seen him in life. That over there.

[Uncle Murda]

See, the reason why I'm so passionate about it, because I look at it like. Rappers are not.

[Jada Kiss]

Took one of our fucking dances.

[Uncle Murda]

Rappers are not superheroes no more. Now street niggas are. Or shooters are. Or scammers are. Rappers, not superheroes. So when we came up, niggas was super superhero. Big, Ellie Bonnet, Fat Joe, Jealous ones in here, y' all dropping. And no disrespect to Diddy. But no more shiny suits. Remember when y' all niggas went from that era to that era, it was crazy Summer jam. Jay with Nas. Know what I'm saying? Ether, we love the Beef. So when you look at Tupac and Big, that was like one of the most biggest beefs we knew. Like, I remember being by the radio and waiting for. I think Flex played it first when Big played who Shot Ya. And me, motherfuckers be like, yo, that's not a dish, this record. And I'd be like, what? In my mind, when I. I wasn't nobody. I'm coming from Jamaica Avenue, down God Brewer. And I'm like, oh. I'm waiting near the radio to hear who shot you? And I'm like, oh, this shit is hard. Who shot you? I remember when that shit dropped. Records was exclusive. One DJ will happen, y' all n will drop. Maybe one DJ or two DJs will have it. You know what I'm saying? So let's not act like in the rap game, we don't like, be. Cause just.

[Jada Kiss]

Just now it been since the beginning of time.

[Uncle Murda]

We love it. KRS won the episode.

[Jada Kiss]

Start dying. Always been fucked up.

[Uncle Murda]

That's when it gets fucked up.

[Fat Joe]

The difference is. Let me tell you, the difference is. So you said Hip Hop Police, right? So Hip Hop Police, yeah. They want to put 50 in jail, but the bulletin board don't got 50. They got you, your best friends. Of course, you got the niggas that be with y'. All, that this, this, that. And they waiting for them to make the mistake to run that.

[Tony Yayo]

Rico, of course, right?

[Fat Joe]

So you gotta understand that it's the entourage. You understand? They feel like they're impressing you. Y' all gonna go pop this. You know how many times I had to talk people off the cliff? Like, guys crying for me, like, please. He's at the club right now, Cherry Lounge. Let me let him go. I'm like, yo, bro, the whole world knows we have beef with this guy, the planet Earth. If you lay him out, then that's for life. We would have been here 20 years later. Like, you know, he didn't. Like, you know something, you got to live with that. The M game, the murder game is something for life. There is no jurisdiction. There is no this. So you can't, you know, and it be the guys with you. They crazy. So you over here. Yo, this is Tato one two, four. This is. He did 30 years. He's a mass murderer. This guy's Jeffrey Dahmer. 106 six. This the dick. What do you think he thinks his job is? When he sees the guy who got beef with Yayo, his job is to come back and say, yo, I got him. This is what I do.

[Uncle Murda]

That's his job. That's his naughty back days, cuz. I heard you was going to get me first. You was going to kidnap me.

[Fat Joe]

Well, yeah. Yo, let me explain to you.

[Tony Yayo]

This is going to tie you up, son.

[Jada Kiss]

This is a family show.

[Uncle Murda]

Who cares? Cause rest in peace, the pun, Joe.

[Tony Yayo]

Was you going to tie that nigga.

[Fat Joe]

Up, man, I heard punch through who.

[Uncle Murda]

Kid in the back of the van. Who kid. So was you gonna top me up? Heard about it. He said, who kissed that pun? Threw him in the back of the bed.

[Jada Kiss]

I got the okay from the side.

[Uncle Murda]

It really.

[Fat Joe]

It happened.

[Jada Kiss]

This ain't that.

[Fat Joe]

It's no, that ain't this.

[Jada Kiss]

It's crack. Cracking Kiss murder.

[Tony Yayo]

The real report.

[Fat Joe]

The real, real report.

[Jada Kiss]

Get ready. January.

[Tony Yayo]

The real report dropping in January.

[Fat Joe]

You heard? Yo, get ready.

[Uncle Murda]

And.

[Tony Yayo]

And we got the new weed dispensary as well. We into the weed business now. We're by indoor.

[Uncle Murda]

That's right.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, you got some jungle, right? I'm coming.

[Uncle Murda]

We going to Dynasty.

[Fat Joe]

We not only podcast brothers, we.

[Tony Yayo]

We brothers as well.

[Jada Kiss]

I got a dispensary coming out there, y'.

[Uncle Murda]

All.

[Jada Kiss]

We all in the same.

[Tony Yayo]

Look at that. Shout out to my brother Mo Powered by indoor.

[Uncle Murda]

Dynasty commodity. Kiss cafe dynasty commodity doing like, what.

[Fat Joe]

The going on over here? Do you rewind the time instead of other. Rewind the time. Of course you rewind the time. Cvs I try to get 50 from jump. He said, nah, he said. I said, yo, I need you on the box, man. Rewind the time. You know you. Why look 54 when you could be 43? I be 43 when you could be 32. Why fight the time when you can rewind the time?

[Uncle Murda]

Rewind the town, baby boy.

[Tony Yayo]

Up with some of that Joe Hook.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Tony Yayo]

Yo.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, yo, Jada. Right now that hat you looking like Brother Akbar.

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[Fat Joe]

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[Tony Yayo]

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[Fat Joe]

Subject to credit approval.