Wale tells WILD Kanye West story, talks Rihanna and Usher collabs & new album

Summary

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Joe and Jada Podcast

Episode: Wale tells WILD Kanye West story, talks Rihanna and Usher collabs & new album
Date: November 6, 2025
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jadakiss
Guest: Wale

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Main Theme

This episode features DMV rapper and sneaker aficionado Wale in a lively conversation with Fat Joe and Jadakiss. They cover Wale's upcoming album Everything Is A Lot, dive into collaborations with Rihanna and Usher, tell wild behind-the-scenes stories (including a Kanye West saga), and reflect on the current state of hip-hop, the music industry, and sports culture. The vibe is honest, playful, and deeply reflective, balancing laughs and wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wale’s Upbringing, Sneaker Culture, and DMV Roots

• Sneakers and Culture
  • Wale credits his love for sneakers to growing up in Black culture and the DMV scene, starting heavy on collecting after getting his first jobs.

    "If you was Black, you was on sneakers, you know what I'm saying?... Now, I'm more like, I get clearance rack shit and just pop it off." — Wale (06:18–06:46)

  • He reflects that the passion in sneaker culture had become commercialized and less authentic.
• DMV & Its Spirit
  • The crew shouts out D’Angelo (DMV’s own), Go Go music, and the deep-rooted influence of the region:

    “He just represented a certain type of Black man… in that era.” — Wale (07:40–08:02)

  • Fat Joe reminisces about the importance of BET and Howard University in his early career (04:35–05:14).

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2. New Album: Everything Is A Lot

• The Wait & Inspiration
  • Wale discusses his four-year break, management shifts, and industry layoffs influencing the album’s themes.

    “It’s really about everything that’s been happening from my last album to now—like, with me, like, in my mind and my surroundings.” — Wale (09:38–09:49)

• Sound & Authenticity
  • Fat Joe praises the album’s artistry, specifically the Afrobeat influences, calling it Wale’s most authentic work.
  • Wale clarifies: he’s “African, yes. My full name is Olubawale…Nigerian” (14:29–14:31), and both parents immigrated to DC in the 1980s.

    "You did it right… You sounded African on this." — Fat Joe (14:00–14:29)

• Collabs & Songwriting
  • The intro track is highlighted with a Keith Sweat sample.
  • Wale breaks down the making of “Mirror Mirror on the Bands,” a song about self-reflection and affirmation (16:39–18:40).
  • Discussion on unnamed features, keeping credits mysterious (“let people absorb me”)—echoes industry tradition like LL Cool J's hits where features were unknown (19:23–20:40).

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3. Behind-the-Scenes Stories: Collaborations with Rihanna, Usher & Kanye

• The Rihanna Story
  • Wale recounts finally recording with Rihanna after years of industry proximity:

    “I met her... at Glastonbury ‘backstage’... Then, when I was finally on Roc Nation, she was like, ‘I want to get on the song’… I remember the night she was ready, I said ‘bro, everybody get the fuck out’…” — Wale (26:19–27:10)

  • The anxiety of waiting for a clearance after getting her vocals:

    "I hope…this should get cleared." — Wale (27:28)

• Kanye West: Wild Story
  • Wale describes writing for Kanye in Paris, trying to get him on a track:

    “He was like ‘nah, nah, nah, this is the one’... And then, when it came time, [Def Jam] wouldn’t clear it… He got mad at me like, ‘I gave you one of your biggest songs ever’ — and I’m like, damn, you didn’t even clear it!”—Wale (27:55–28:55)

  • “Ain’t over til it’s over with these clearances.” — Wale (28:59) “Now he delusional.” — Fat Joe (28:55)

• Usher & Hitmaking Process
  • “One of my favorite songs in the world…” — Fat Joe (30:03)
  • Wale shares the art of working with different producers for each hit; credits Jake One and Sam Dew for the Usher joint.
  • Fat Joe jokes about chasing Usher for a feature and some rare Jordans (31:06–32:52).

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4. Music Industry Reflection & Evolution

• Industry Changes
  • Massive turnover in four years: styles, subgenres, “industry plant” debates, fans’ awareness, harder to break through.

    “There’s been artists that came and went in that time… Industry plant stuff… It’s the wild, wild west right now.” — Wale (49:05–49:29)

• Generational Shift
  • Fat Joe and Jada note how labels like Def Jam are filled with Gen Z staffers.

    "It's a bunch of young kids... they in control." — Jada (49:33–50:01)

  • Both hosts and Wale bemoan the lack of passion in today’s music business, the fast pace, and loss of old-school mentorship.

    “There’s not a lot of passion…When you find people that rock with you...keep them…” — Wale & Jada (51:21–51:42)

• Kanye, Protocol & Gatekeeping
  • Discussion about how megastars are often forced to negotiate with low-level execs, even when they generate most of the business.

    “He a billion-dollar dude and they put him to talk to somebody's son…” — Fat Joe (52:52–53:27)

  • “Still protocol.” — Jada (53:27)

  • Advice on embracing both youthful energy and experience in the industry.

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5. Mental Health, Addiction, & Pressures of Fame

• Wale on Industry Trauma
  • Wale admits most artists in the space end up dealing with trauma, vices, and reprogramming their brains to cope:

    “If you’ve been in this zone longer than like six years, you’ve been through some traumatic shit…We all have indulged in vices at particular moments…” — Wale (60:10–60:46)

• Fat Joe:

  “Yo, sometimes they try to kill me Wale, I’m not even lying.” (60:50)

  • There’s a moment of real solidarity about surviving the high demands and hypervisibility of rap fame.

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6. Sports, Sneaker Talk, and New York Hopes

• Sports Fandom
  • Fat Joe explains his loyalty to the Knicks and Chiefs, while Wale roots for Washington teams.
• Sneaker Flex
  • Banter over who’s got the rarest connections (Usher’s Jordan exclusives, Fat Joe’s 20-year-old pairs) (32:39–33:41).
• Basketball “Delusions”
  • Fat Joe claims the Knicks are taking the chip this year:

    "We're winning the chip this year... Basketball's my life, guys." — Fat Joe (44:27–44:35)

  • Wale and Jada both laugh at his optimism ("delusional," they joke).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "Everything’s a lot." — Wale
• “You did it right… You sounded African on this.” — Fat Joe (14:00)
• “He got some incredible features on your life for your career…” — Jada (25:38)
• "I hope, I hope, I hope... this should get cleared." — Wale (27:28) (on Rihanna vocals)
• "Kanye did that to me." — Wale (27:49)
• "Ain't over til it's over with these clearances." — Wale (28:59)
• "We're winning the chip this year. That's what I'm trying to tell you." — Fat Joe (44:27)
• "If you’ve been in this zone longer than like six years, you’ve been through some traumatic shit…" — Wale (60:15)
• "There’s not a lot of passion at all… when you find people that rock with you… keep them." — Jada (51:21)

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Highlight Segments (Timestamps)

• Intro & Wale’s DMV/Sneaker Roots | 03:35–07:14
• Reflecting on D’Angelo | 07:24–08:46
• Wale’s Album Process & Sound | 09:38–15:14
• Authenticity, Nigerian Identity | 13:26–15:01
• “Mirror Mirror” Performance | 16:39–18:40
• Uncredited Features/LL Cool J Reference | 19:23–20:40
• The Rihanna Collaboration Story | 26:19–27:31
• Kanye West “Wild Story” | 27:49–28:59
• Usher Collaboration & Producer Talk | 30:03–31:06
• Fat Joe on NYC Basketball Delusion | 44:27–45:30
• State of Music Industry, Generational Changes | 49:05–54:01
• Mental Health in Industry, Coping | 60:10–60:49
• Outro: New Song “Belly” | 61:22–65:44

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Closing Thoughts

Scattered with barbershop banter and industry insight, this episode is a revealing look at Wale’s journey, the challenge of staying authentic, the unpredictable nature of collaborations, and the toll—and rewards—of a life in hip-hop.
Wale’s new album, Everything Is A Lot, drops November 14th.

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[Standout Moment: Kanye Story]

“I wanted him on this song… he was like, ‘nah, nah, nah, this is the one’… he got mad at me a little bit later, ‘I gave you one of your biggest songs ever’… I’m like, damn, you ain’t even clear it!” — Wale (27:55–28:55)

[Standout Introspective Moment]

“If you’ve been in this zone longer than like six years, you’ve been through some traumatic shit…we all have indulged in vices at particular moments…” — Wale (60:10–60:46)

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For more: Stream or buy the album. Support real music. November 14th!

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[Wale]

Bro, if I had that, what you had doing them stories, man, I probably. Man, I don't even care if it. Yo, them jones was entertaining.

[Fat Joe]

These stories true.

[Wale]

I know my be sounding like last, too.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, what up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack the dawn.

[Jada]

It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we haven't failed you yet. And we will never fail you or never let you down. Ladies and gentlemen, please make some noise today for our brother, you know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

DMV zone.

[Jada]

DMV zone. Heavy in the sports, heavy in the sneakers. He makes hits. He had features with some of the most incredible people. I'mma ask him about in a minute, you know what I mean? He gets on his shit every now and then. You might get a rant, you might get what? You always gonna see him, you're always gonna hear him. He's always lit, he's always relevant. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother, Wale. How you like that intro?

[Fat Joe]

I love that shit.

[Jada]

No doubt.

[Fat Joe]

You know, DMV's a very spiritual place for me, you know what I'm saying? And my whole career, you went to.

[Jada]

Church down there a lot.

[Fat Joe]

But BET was in.

[Wale]

I got a crazy anecdote about bet.

[Fat Joe]

Let's start at Howard University. The how can I be downs and all that shit over there. BET was based out of dmv, so I would tell train down there to do all teams, everything. The whole bet was in fucking D.C. so you had to go to D.C. and we was out there so much. Cause they threw all the events out there that I learned so much about DMV culture, man. But what's up, Wale, man? Man, we happy to have you here, brother.

[Wale]

Yeah, it's good to be here. You know, it's surreal because it's like, you know, you probably hear this all the time. A lot of niggas grew up listening to me. Like now we like about to answer questions. But yeah, like that's a little stabbing.

[Jada]

The convo he might have.

[Wale]

Crazy. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, you, you cross, you kind of drop some seeds about some things he's going to come at. That's more than the combo.

[Fat Joe]

Well, my thing is, you know, I woke up this morning, my outfit wasn't so premeditated, but my young boy, UFO Feeb hit me up and said, you know why lay coming? I said, I know. He said, well, you gotta throw something on your feet. Crazy. And I said, you know why lay my. I don't think he wanna. I don't think we doing that. But I went and premeditated the outfit and brought out the TS shits about 20 something years old. Just for the culture, you know what I'm saying? Cause we salute you so much as a sneaker giant. What got you into sneakers and are you still currently. Do you have the passion for the sneaker gang?

[Wale]

I think just culture. Like all of us, wherever you from, if you was black, you was on sneakers, like, you know what I'm saying? And now we ain't really had money till I was like maybe like in high school. And then when I started working, I just started collecting and collecting and then you know how I go. Like any other hobby, you just collect. And as far as now, I don't really got a passion like I used to. It's a little bit stepped on. Like the whole shit burnt out from real. It's just everything is not what it used to be.

[Fat Joe]

Nah.

[Wale]

But they making some good designs, but it's not. So I'm on the whole, like, I get clearance rack shit and just pop it off like these is on clearance. Like, remember these joints came out a long time ago. I'm on it like that. I wear it, whatever.

[Jada]

Yeah, I like that though.

[Wale]

Yeah, I like it. Like I'm saying over there. I'm gonna go over there and I still got joints like without. Like where the Reggie Miller is everybody on dunks now? Like we was doing that. We was doing that. You know what I'm saying? So I'm on. I'm on hoop shoes. Where Ies.

[Fat Joe]

I got one more question before my business partner takes off with the intelligent question. This is the wise and Telling the God wise intelligence over here.

[Jada]

Here we go.

[Fat Joe]

AKA the notary Republic. But check this out, man. Sad day yesterday. DMV zone. D', Angelo, did you know him? What he mean to you coming out of the dmv, you know what I'm saying?

[Wale]

Well, that's more Southern Virginia, but, you know, it's DMV nonetheless. But I just think what he meant to hip hop, the voodoo sound is like a lot of Go Go bands was inspired by that album, you know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people, like, you know what I'm saying? And he just represented a certain type of black man. Like. Like, you know what I'm saying? In that era, like, you feel me?

[Fat Joe]

Like, I came out with that six pack.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Losing weight. I lost two Fat Joes.

[Jada]

Yo.

[Fat Joe]

I said, yo, I gotta get in shape. Listen, that was unreal, right? That two Fat Joes.

[Jada]

How many was left at that? He lost two.

[Fat Joe]

I got one left.

[Jada]

Oh, all right.

[Fat Joe]

It was three Fat Joe, I'm telling y'. All. But d', Angelo, man, shout out to Cool and Dre. It's our brother.

[Wale]

That's our brother right there.

[Fat Joe]

Dre. Dre. That's his favorite. He was fucked up yesterday. He was. He was so sad. You know, everybody got their favorite.

[Jada]

Oh, d' Angelo was Dre's.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, that's it. That's. There's nobody better Dre, isn't it?

[Wale]

D'?

[Fat Joe]

Angelo for Dre. Yesterday I was talking to him and I seen him fucked up in the face. I was like, yo, Dre, I'm on a FaceTime. He was like, yeah, you know this. It wasn't the same Dre. You know, he lost his hero. You know, d' Angelo meant a lot. You know, Angie Stone, one of the first rappers Angie turned into Rest in Peace. You didn't know that she might be first. Second Second rapper. Shot Rock is first. She was a dead ass second rapper in America. And then she came back years later with.

[Jada]

Wrote some songs for Sugar Hill and all.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you, she was there at the.

[Jada]

Before Angie Stoke.

[Fat Joe]

She was at the Inception kiss. You come with the super energetic questions.

[Jada]

Nah, we just kicking it. We gonna grow. You got new project coming. Tell us about what's going on with that.

[Wale]

It's called everything is a lot. Yeah, like, I ain't dropping four years. Like, I had to. You know, I changed management. My contract was out with nmg. Like, had to figure out a couple things. And you know the industry, like, about 70% of the people got laid. Off in the past four years, so just trying to figure everything out. And it's really about everything that's been happening from my last album to now. Like, with me, like, in my mind and my surroundings. I like that. Yeah.

[Jada]

Tour. You got a tour with it?

[Wale]

You know, we tour every album. Song. Yeah.

[Jada]

You stay on the road when you drop song. Any crazy features. I ain't listening.

[Fat Joe]

Well, I listened to that.

[Jada]

I didn't want to listen to it in any race on me, because I was trying to get.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, they definitely got the. You can't rewind.

[Wale]

That was one, Jake. That was my note on the joint.

[Fat Joe]

That was your note?

[Jada]

They tested, man. Like you do on the block, man.

[Fat Joe]

Tina sent that shit to me. She said, he's on tomorrow. How about this? I never did this for no other guests. No other nothing.

[Jada]

I think so.

[Wale]

I think so, too.

[Fat Joe]

You think I'm lying?

[Wale]

Nah, I was talking about something else.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, no, no. Ain't no capping this. I sat down. I'll tell you, your whole album. The intro's bananas. The first joint, that's that. If you really, really want it, all you gotta do.

[Jada]

That's that shit without me. Oh, my God.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, sick.

[Wale]

Shout out.

[Fat Joe]

Keith Sweat. He wrote that?

[Wale]

Yeah. And now I know he wrote it. I saw the motherfucker.

[Fat Joe]

They saw who you paid that motherfucker.

[Wale]

I said, damn. Got me twisted over you real.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Keith Sweat is a businessman. Yeah. Like.

[Wale]

No, I know.

[Fat Joe]

Over the first new.

[Wale]

Thank you, thank you. Thank you to the lawyers that have the type of clearance.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Wale]

Street runners. Street runners made that jump.

[Jada]

Street Runners get at me.

[Wale]

But the crazy thing is, it sounded so different when he first sent me that jump.

[Jada]

You heard that?

[Wale]

He said Street Runner.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, you can't throw that. Don't do that. You're gonna play yourself. He might, though. He might have my. He might. He might. He might be right about that.

[Wale]

Because I know this.

[Fat Joe]

I know that circle. That circle is caled. I know.

[Wale]

Nah, he might go.

[Fat Joe]

He might got that one. But Street Runner. Ts, man.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

This is the same game.

[Wale]

It's close enough. It's close enough. I won't.

[Fat Joe]

I ain't gonna argue on that one. He got.

[Wale]

He got some more coming. Don't worry.

[Jada]

First time.

[Fat Joe]

I'm gonna let you get. I'm gonna let.

[Wale]

I'm gonna let.

[Fat Joe]

I started Street Runner.

[Jada]

Black Pullback.

[Fat Joe]

I'm G. Street Runner. I started Chris Robinson. I started Jesse Torero. I started. You saying you started.

[Wale]

People's name.

[Jada]

Throw something. Easy, cool.

[Fat Joe]

And Drake. Too early. Premature Cool. And Drake. I started Khaled.

[Wale]

I started Miami.

[Fat Joe]

I started. I started. Yeah, I started One Leg man. I started Howard. See, but you know, what about Wale? I always figured Wale for a nice guy. He's actually. He knows how to throw shots. You see, we saw that. He was like, yeah, Miami rappers. And that's the shit Jada's famous for in the verses. All these New York guys in Miami. I said, damn.

[Wale]

No, when I said Miami, I'm talking about, you know, the little I got y'.

[Fat Joe]

All little.

[Wale]

Y' all get money. Y' all do. Y' all do y' all Miami shit. I know who you be.

[Fat Joe]

I know who you be with in Miami, man.

[Wale]

I like that talk shit, too.

[Fat Joe]

That intro was crazy.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You made an album like, I would love to make an album. For some reason, they stereo cast us rappers. It's the same.

[Wale]

It ain't no different than what you do. It ain't no difference.

[Fat Joe]

But you went in there, you fucked a lot. With the Afro beats you. Is you African or African American?

[Wale]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even consider none of them beats Afrobeats. For real. They kind of like.

[Fat Joe]

I'm asking you a question. Is you African American or are you African?

[Wale]

Is that I'm African. We are African, yes.

[Fat Joe]

But I'm just saying, the way you flowed on them African beats was almost like you from Nigeria, not from Washington. I'm not telling you the truth. You know what you did on that shit?

[Wale]

My parents met at the University of D.C. and they both came into America, like, in, like, early 80s.

[Jada]

That's fired.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, so that's how it happened. Because you sounded really authentic. See, I never did reggaeton because I'm like a New York Puerto Rican. And it would have sounded like, Joe's trying to do that shit, and he don't sound right. You did it right. So in the middle of your album, I'm saying to myself, yo, is Wale African? I'm the one who always say, everybody African. Don't do that shit to me. Well, I'm just telling you, you sounded African on this.

[Wale]

My name. My full name is Olubawale. That's it. Nigerian.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, this the. I'm talking about.

[Wale]

I think everybody was.

[Jada]

You at. You don't notice.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't.

[Wale]

He was too busy making street runners, man.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, you crazy.

[Wale]

It was too busy.

[Fat Joe]

You made all the people.

[Wale]

I'm sure you don't know what the.

[Fat Joe]

Fuck is going on.

[Wale]

I was like, outside Jamaican people factory.

[Fat Joe]

You don't know what's going on.

[Wale]

But yeah, I'm Nigerian. I was born in. Actually.

[Fat Joe]

Born. That's what I'm talking about. And that came out on this ALB album.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And done Perfect. Done incredible.

[Wale]

Thank you.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? I love this album. I. I felt like it was a time that you could have been authentic with yourself. This what that album feels like to me. You did what you love to do and the fire. Right.

[Wale]

Appreciate it.

[Jada]

You gotta get used to this guy.

[Wale]

Nah.

[Fat Joe]

Oh no. He used to be.

[Wale]

I know what it is.

[Jada]

You know what I mean?

[Wale]

I wanna. That's high praise. And I appreciate it though.

[Fat Joe]

Huh? Yeah. Intro I didn't get.

[Wale]

I didn't get the. So you can get the context of the album from the.

[Jada]

Make sure you play fucking loud too.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, it's Afro beats.

[Wale]

Conundrum.

[Fat Joe]

Conundrum.

[Wale]

Conundrum. That's what we're talking about.

[Fat Joe]

Conundrum is fire, bro.

[Wale]

Y' all want to play it?

[Fat Joe]

You don't want to play Conundrum?

[Wale]

Nah, nah. This guy.

[Fat Joe]

This album come out the next day.

[Wale]

No. Oh, the next day after this.

[Jada]

Yeah. We ain't. This ain't right now.

[Fat Joe]

So when we play it, it's going to come out the next day.

[Wale]

It might be too early. I do 14.

[Fat Joe]

Well, listen to your man though. You know, Fat Joe is known as one of the greatest A. RS in the whole system. Or you can listen to him. You can listen to the light skinned guy from the bank who really runs cmb. That's the guy. Christopher Williams over there. That's the guy really on the bank. Nino Brownstone on over there. You can listen to him. I'm telling you what's fire on the fucking album. But it's okay. It's okay.

[Wale]

Yeah. Em and Khaled, man, they. They created each other for real. They created him and Khaled created each other.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Wale]

And then they just started creating everybody else. Okay. We could do mero in the bands. I just wanted to make a self affirmation song, man. That's. That's some fly shit. So.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Wale]

Hello. Mirror mirror on the bands.

[Fat Joe]

Who?

[Wale]

The flies in the room. Who inspired everybody. That's inspiring to you. I won't to my own horn. I'm just wearing it to you and I know you just a mirror but my fear is only you Therefore them little boys ain't nowhere near you don't care but just annoy that I be playing you Those years of paranoia probably took a toll but depressing the toe Mirror, it ain't only you, you deserve everything you do. They gonna try get you in the mood they gonna try cause it work right Should I never stop listening to you? Oh Mary don't you forget remember Glenn Lewis don't feel like you really him But Imma see to it that you feel like you really him cause I' ma need you Cause now we see what this really is. We gotta see it too twin right you deserve everything you do. They gonna try get you on the move they gonna try cause it work right okay. Mirror, mirror on the left the coach send you home you don't know what's coming next you thinking boy stay cool you always been a dog but the porter wasn't knowing they gonna send your ass home before you even get the stretch. Mirror, mirror, mirror look at all your transgressions Niggas think you crazy crackers think you're too aggressed the people think you mad. I ain't mad, just reflecting but still this flower bomb dropping the B been a few years see what we going through yeah so many peers have stopped calling you yeah let's make it clear on who you loyal to save all your tears see what we going to do is mirror look at me no mirror look at me. They try by your style they walk out with crooked te don't self sabotage know the ops to awake if you ever need to talk no I always be in your face saying you deserve everything you do. They going to try to get you in that movie. They gonna try cause it work right? Should have never stop listening to.

[Jada]

You can slide it on the Afro peak.

[Fat Joe]

No, he got real afro. That's afro. Be there. Nah, that's just. That's. That's. It's melodically, yeah, it's like from A Tribe Called Quest. They never sent me the features. You had people on there, but I couldn't tell who it was.

[Wale]

Now we got. You know, that's the new thing. You don't put the feature let people absorb me, you know, who I always been upset with.

[Fat Joe]

And our idol, LL Cool J. Because there's some legendary super platinum songs he had on that we never knew who sung this.

[Wale]

Right?

[Fat Joe]

Your girl never got a box.

[Wale]

I don't know who's saying well. Yeah, doing well. Natasha from Bone Thugs. God bless her for saying her name at the end of the song. Tasha. Cleveland definitely in the house. Thanks, Tasha. Because Billy's in the house. Wishes in the house and flesh. And then Tasha. I hope Tasha doing all right about.

[Fat Joe]

The girl that said that froze in the house yeah.

[Wale]

Hey, who's singing? What more can I say?

[Fat Joe]

That froze in the house I always wanted to know.

[Wale]

I asked Guru. I don't think he. Nobody gave me an answer.

[Fat Joe]

Who sing on what?

[Wale]

What more can I say?

[Fat Joe]

What more can I say?

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Damn. I don't know. That sound like a sample to me.

[Wale]

He could have said, you crazy for this one. Whoever that was, he probably was talking about light. Shout out.

[Jada]

Get the light. Shout out.

[Fat Joe]

Get something, man.

[Wale]

More niggas might want to get. What can I say on these things?

[Fat Joe]

Records that never like. Tupac had mad hit records. I don't know who was singing on there.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Or who even produced it.

[Wale]

Years later, pocket for a cigarette and let him get on the record.

[Fat Joe]

That's crazy.

[Wale]

You know the songs, y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[Wale]

I ain't gonna he let. It's the only feature. But they got a million stream with anybody on.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but you know he left from the heart. Yeah, you do that now, they'll sue you and say they made up the.

[Wale]

Whole song or they're just this crazy. It's just a little bit. It's a less honor.

[Fat Joe]

You can't even allow in the studio these days. Be like, yo, you said that wrong. You do it over shit you did. They'll talk about how they wrote the shit, how they did. Like, it's incredible out here. Like, you gotta watch who you got in the studio. No, it's real talk. I know of Lawsuit. I know one guy in particular who was hanging out with the Backstreet Boys. He's in the studio in Orlando hanging out with the Backstreet Boys and say, they said, I'mma do it like this. He said, yo, you used to say, we gonna do it like this. The man sued him like he did something in the studio.

[Wale]

Sounds kind of.

[Fat Joe]

Sounds like a smart guy.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, he's truck they stealing anyway. Oh, man.

[Wale]

What?

[Fat Joe]

The Backstreet Boys.

[Wale]

You can take that out. Nah, fuck.

[Fat Joe]

Nah. They was.

[Wale]

You know what they stealing from, man?

[Fat Joe]

Who you say, Boyds to? Men or a new edition? Who would you say?

[Wale]

The Backstreet. I'm not saying nothing because now I know it's going to be a headline, and it's going to be like a whole clickbait.

[Fat Joe]

But we could talk out, man. What's up, man?

[Wale]

What's up with them? Giants, man.

[Fat Joe]

Giants.

[Jada]

You know how to segue out of that.

[Wale]

Are you a Chiefs fan?

[Fat Joe]

I'm a Chiefs fan. Oh, you made.

[Wale]

You made mine.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, Travis Kelce. I got him on the box and rewind it.

[Wale]

Oh, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Why fight the time when you could rewind the time? Travis Kelsey, my guy in my business partner, yesterday on the box.

[Wale]

Yesterday's price.

[Fat Joe]

Yesterday's price. It's not today. That wasn't Travis.

[Wale]

That wasn't Travis Swift on that jump.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something. My first time ever, by the way, we're the number one seller in cvs. I was in LA and I went in there, CVS to give me some sugar free candies they got in there. And I'm online and there's this white dude there, and he got a box of rewinding. And he turns around, I said, man, you. You buy. He said, I'm a faithful customer. He don't know who the hell I am. And I'm like, yeah. He said, if this guy wears it, I could wear it too. And he showed me Travis Kelce. I said, wow, Travis, man, the Swifties, this. He was like, yeah, I'm about to go do my. I was like, we had a customer. First time I called a customer online in the store. It felt great. Guys, I get it.

[Wale]

Roc Nation. Roc Nation. Where's the hard cam? Yeah. Hey, I get it. I get it. I get it, I get it. You can't fucking David Letterman over here for real. I get it. I get it. I get it. Jada. I get it. I get the whole thing.

[Fat Joe]

Jaden Smile.

[Wale]

I get it. The courtside shit.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, the. God.

[Wale]

I know.

[Fat Joe]

I see the.

[Wale]

I see the whole vision now. I get it. He said, you want to do streaming games? Watch this. I'm going to be the media master. Watch this. Bro, if I had that, what you had doing them stories, man, I probably. Man, I don't even care if it. Yo, them jones is entertaining.

[Fat Joe]

These stories true.

[Wale]

I know my shit be sounding like laughs, too. I got.

[Fat Joe]

They be looking at me like I'm crazy. I seen one guy, he said, see that quick? Nah, that quick. I seen one guy on Instagram. We probably blowing him up. Jada don't like this, but he was like, yo, one time I was on 131st and Fat Joe's man owned the shout out to Bambop. OB Megatron. They own the rim shop. And Joe was just chilling in there. So I pull up with my man, I want to play him music. And we caught him off point. He looked like he was shook. I said, listen, I gotta do it. I gotta go. In the comments, I said, you are very blessed. You didn't try me. Because it would be a messy situation in there. And how about you come 20, 25 and try to play with me, see if it ain't gonna get messy. I could guarantee you. Whatever. I don't remember what he's talking about, but I promise you, if we was In Harlem on 131st, 8th Avenue, it was heavy in there.

[Wale]

Heavy.

[Fat Joe]

Fat Joe ain't just going to be sitting up in the middle of Harlem. It would have got real messy.

[Wale]

I don't know. I don't know how we got here, but I believe you.

[Fat Joe]

No, you better believe it.

[Jada]

You're going to go all. You're going to go a lot of places before you leave it.

[Wale]

New Yorkers are good with that. Like, they can keep you engaged. I believe it, though. New Yorkers know when we got there. I know. Niggas know the joke.

[Fat Joe]

New Yorkers know.

[Wale]

I know.

[Fat Joe]

But let me tell you something.

[Jada]

How about we let him tell us something?

[Fat Joe]

I want to ask you about the song you did, that you got Rihanna on.

[Jada]

Yeah, that's what I was about to start asking about. Some of the features. No, go talking about that one first.

[Fat Joe]

That one. That one's a serious one.

[Jada]

He pulled off. He got some incredible features in your life for your career. Follow me.

[Wale]

Get to know me.

[Jada]

Yeah, you know.

[Fat Joe]

No, you are charming.

[Wale]

Got songs with J Kiss.

[Jada]

Facts. Don't tell him that, either.

[Fat Joe]

Don't made up, so don't tell them that.

[Wale]

I got songs.

[Jada]

Came to the studio with. He's been in D block studio next to me.

[Fat Joe]

No, Emit Jadakiss, man. You're a great rapper, man.

[Jada]

We talking about him.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, we gonna.

[Jada]

I don't want to talk about.

[Wale]

Let me tell you about the time I made Jadakiss.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, I was somewhere in Yonkers.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Whoa.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, yo. It was a dark, cold night in Yonkers, all right?

[Wale]

Nah. But the Jones with Rob, like, she. She just. We. I met her, like, a long time ago. Like, before I was even. I was still. I was still in school, for real. It was right around the time I dropped out. I was on tour with Mark, and, like, I think backstage at Glastonbury, there wasn't too many, like, black people. Like, so we just got cooled in. And then I started, like, you know, getting bigger and bigger. And then I remember, like, it getting back to me. This is my third album now, and I'm on ROC Nation. So, you know, Jay Brown, the whole thing. She was like, I want to get on the song. And she said that. Yeah. And then. I mean, then I had to, like. I remember, like, she kept going to the club like, every other night. And I was like, one of these nights we going to the studio soon as. And the day that she was ready, I said, bro, everybody get the fuck out. Like, yo, what y' all want to eat? They was like, McDonald's. I was like, oh, cool. Had some Js. So I like getting a vibe. And then she just did it. And then I think we ended up, like, I tried to get, like, a different beat because I really wanted a real remix.

[Fat Joe]

Let me ask you a question. How did you feel when she jumped in the suv? I'm presuming she left. And you have Rihanna's vocals on your song. Like, what the.

[Wale]

I hope, I hope, I hope. This should get cleared.

[Jada]

That's a fact. It ain't all. It ain't over.

[Wale]

It ain't over.

[Jada]

Yeah, it's not over. It's not done yet.

[Fat Joe]

Shit you got.

[Wale]

I know some artists right now that would. They. They love to go to N sessions and hear their new shit. Drop them to give them two verses and then tunes.

[Jada]

These don't clear them.

[Wale]

Kanye did that to me.

[Fat Joe]

Now, I had to deal with that. A lot of times.

[Jada]

He did that.

[Fat Joe]

He did that to me.

[Wale]

I don't even know how it happened, but when I was out there writing for him, like, and this was Paris. This is a long time ago. For who? Kanye. Okay? And then I remember, like, I wanted him on this song that I had called Girls on Drugs, and he was.

[Fat Joe]

Like, nah, nah, nah.

[Wale]

You know how he get like, nah, nah, nah. This is the one. And then played me this song and Todd Dallas, and I was on it, and he was like, this go, go shit, right? I'm like, go, go. Don't sound nothing like that. Like, but I. You know, I get it from me, Kanye West. So I did his own. I didn't really like the song, for real. I mean, it wasn't like. It wasn't fucking with nothing on my album, but it's Kanye. So I let it ride and shit like that, you know? He's like, yeah, you should put on that one. I'm like, fuck it. Having a on the album, I can't hurt. I don't like the song. So when it came time to what's his name, the label, Homebound now, Def Jam, they wouldn't clear it. They said Kanye wouldn't clear it. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? And then he got mad at me a little bit later down the road, like, I don't think you appreciate. I gave you, like, the biggest one of Your biggest songs ever. And I'm like, damn, I ain't even.

[Fat Joe]

Clear the, like, ain't even now. He delusional.

[Wale]

Ain't over till it's over with these clearances.

[Fat Joe]

My favorite rapper.

[Wale]

But he said definitely, Definitely an inspiration to my whole show.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no.

[Wale]

I just probably finished the Paris for that.

[Fat Joe]

Wait till I tell you the Kanye story, but go ahead. This might be for another.

[Jada]

How the hell did you meet Jerry Seinfeld?

[Wale]

I was just always an outside. Like, I just was a kind of a different. Like, I had different interests, like, we all hang together, whatever, but I used to just, like, watch different shit. And I remember, like, I had an injury and I couldn't. I couldn't do shit, like, for a while. And I had them joints on dvd and I was just watching them just. I was like, man, there's a lot of psychology in this shit. And then I just made a mixtape around that when I. When I was still living in my mother crib. And I was like, I don't know if they gonna understand it, but I put it out and it just kind of caught. Then I did part two right before I signed the Interscope, and I think right before I did part two, he caught wind of the mixtape, and then he had a show in Baltimore when he wanted to meet me. Wow.

[Jada]

Now how the hell did the Usher joint? That's one of my favorite songs in.

[Fat Joe]

The world, by the way.

[Wale]

Appreciate it, man. You know, I do say I'm one of the biggest rappers that don't have a main producer, and I kind of think so because all my songs might hit from somebody else. And I remember one day Jake one.

[Fat Joe]

Was like, man, by the way, I don't want to. That's an art to be able to work with different producers and make hit records with different producers. A lot of guys just got one guy who give them that sauce. It's actually hard to leave somebody you just made a hit with to fuck with another producer and get a hit from them. Sorry for cutting you off, but that's very cool.

[Wale]

I wish I could do that more. I'm like more of an introvert now. I become more. Cause I know too much. So I just don't be really around nobody. But. But like, Jake 1 was like, man, this is around the time of like three years in a row. I had like the number one most played on urban radio song three years. So Jake one made a joke. He was like, man, I want to do one of those with you. I was like, well, send me a beat like that, man, I just started putting this shit together. And then me and Sam do put that hook down. And then N was like, yo, Usher would sound great on it. Didn't overthink it.

[Fat Joe]

Usher did it. Yeah, and clipped the man. Usher never did for me, man. Yo, Usher, you owe me about a hundred favors. What Usher, I need a taste, man. Yo, Usher, I've been chasing you for my whole man. Usher might think I'm whack, man. I ain't gonna lie. Chase Usher, plenty of time. He's a. I consider him my friend.

[Wale]

You don't skates now, man. You can't catch up.

[Jada]

Can't catch up. Now.

[Fat Joe]

You go to us's show. Bro, I'm in Vegas. I had a show, I think. What's the club?

[Jada]

Dreus.

[Fat Joe]

Dreus, man. And I fucked around and told Natina, give me some tickets to Usher. I fucked around. I sat in them seats for two minutes. Then it was the Fat Joe greatest hits. 10 records in the world. Usher had me performing 10 fucking records. Breath, sweat, bullets, ripping the place down. I mean, you get Usher ticket, it's coming with some fake songs. You're performing live ways.

[Wale]

You earn them joints.

[Fat Joe]

I can't lie. He came to my show after he came to Dre's and hung out with me. And that was against his contract. He couldn't really.

[Wale]

But, oh, yeah, they vicious, man.

[Fat Joe]

Usher, you owe me sneakers. You owe me all type of shit. No, Usher owe me. Usher owe you sneakers. Usher owes me sneakers. Usher had me perform Rick Owen Jones. He can't stand up his goddaughter's sweet 16 fat joe greatest Hits. And he looked me in my eyes and said, yo, I got you with the Jordan that been skating for me forever.

[Wale]

He has Jordan connect any more than yours?

[Fat Joe]

No, I know, I know Ushers, he.

[Jada]

Just want a pair that they made for us.

[Wale]

No. Yeah, I want the US ACR joints.

[Fat Joe]

I want. I want this.

[Wale]

You want them to say confessions on the side.

[Fat Joe]

I want this to say simple. I want that shit to say simple.

[Wale]

You see what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

Y' all got the camera. I want. I want the Ushers to say something.

[Wale]

You need something exclusive from us?

[Fat Joe]

Yes.

[Wale]

I didn't know he had any.

[Fat Joe]

Thank God I ain't got no holes on my socks. You know what I'm saying? Oh, no, he got him.

[Jada]

They made him some footage.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no.

[Jada]

Making them some.

[Fat Joe]

He made one for his wedding.

[Wale]

Oh, that's like. I could call MJ myself club.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, he got it.

[Wale]

Yeah, yeah, he got.

[Fat Joe]

He got.

[Jada]

He Got exclusives they like for us. You know, I can't see you with a pair of his joints.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, he got pause. He got threes.

[Jada]

No, they, but they, they, they be dazzled up, though.

[Fat Joe]

They got shit on Justin Timberlake's them shits with all that shine and all that.

[Jada]

Watch your way inside.

[Wale]

He don't care. He just wants to care. You want them easier. I just want them.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I want him for that clearance sale, you know.

[Jada]

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[Jada]

Football season. You play football?

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Jada]

What was your. You aspired to make it to the NFL.

[Wale]

Everybody thought they was going to the league when we little like. But shit. My first day of camp in college cause I was recruited as a wide receiver because I was playing running back my whole life. But I was too small to play running back in college. But then I seen them Florida niggas running routes the first day. I said all right, let me. I'll go back to running back. So I had to work my way back up that jump cause I was not running like that. Yeah. And then I got kicked out.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out My man Freezy out there.

[Jada]

In Miami, they kicked him out of Robin Morris. I know y' all caught the vapors now.

[Wale]

Coach Joe Walton. Coach Joe Walton, he used to coach the Jets. That was my coach. And then I transferred to Virginia State and I was, I was. I was getting to it out there.

[Fat Joe]

You know the thing about living in Miami shit be 120 degrees.

[Wale]

Nothing to do with running outside.

[Fat Joe]

They got the fucking equipment on 120.

[Jada]

That's why I learned more about football.

[Wale]

Spending two weeks in Carroll City my freshman year of college than I did the whole first season at Robert Moore. I learned more about football in Carroll City.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I'm the only guy that never played but got thrown out the park. Rich Blair used to play and they penalized him for 15 yards. And then they took away another 15 yards. You could bring Rich in here if I'm lying. They made me get the fuck out the park. The referee, I'm like you Foot Locker. I was going to bad out there. The most dangerous fan is amazing. You know the women, man, the women used to go, yeah Joe, this when they start taking them yards, it was like get the fuck out. Crack. Get. I was costing them the game. I kept Going crazy out there. But Florida, a different thing with the football, bro.

[Wale]

Who's your team? NFL.

[Fat Joe]

Well, NFL. I told you, I'm a bandwagon. I'm Kansas City Chiefs. You know, I'm.

[Jada]

How long you been in Kansas City fan?

[Fat Joe]

Couple of years. Since they've been winning.

[Wale]

Since Travis. Since Travis, Kel. Since Travis. Kelsey did the joint. Hello. But in basketball, it's Knicks, you know. You ain't budging on that?

[Fat Joe]

No, no, I can't do nothing. Why?

[Wale]

Do you feel like if the Giants was, like, doing better like you, you gonna be. You gonna come in with Johnson, Doc.

[Fat Joe]

Go there for no reason, Dog, man, I remember you from where?

[Wale]

Yo, dog, me and your pops, man.

[Jada]

Remember I paid for your pa. Warden.

[Fat Joe]

Jets.

[Wale]

What do you mean?

[Fat Joe]

I got my. I've been around, yo. I've been around too long to get suckered by the Giants and Jets. I've been around too long. It ain't happening. And Miami ain't happening. Miami Dolphins. I lived in Miami 20 something years. I watched them get their ass whipped every week. That on the TV, 21 to 7. Like, one thing I do know.

[Wale]

I'm.

[Fat Joe]

Gonna go with no whack.

[Jada]

What about the Heat?

[Wale]

I had the Heat with him. He wasn't going.

[Fat Joe]

I'm always been a Knick fan, you know, in solidarity with the Heat, you know, I was in the studio. You've been in the studio too many times with them cursing me out every night for years. The Knicks sucked, the Heat was winning. Chips. Do you know the type of verbal abuse these guys were giving me? An hour to 2. You go to studio, 7 o', clock, you talk shit for two hours. Guess what was the two hours? Y' all niggas is trash. This, this, that, yo. I mean, it's crazy. Then they'll play me on the 2k and bust my ass with the Heat on the nick. Like, it's just disrespect for many years.

[Wale]

But we go through that with Redskins commanders. Oh, like there's a lot of. I remember Hov used to be Jonah all the time. Cause he's a Cowboys fan. We ain't had nothing to brag about in a long time. So. I get it.

[Fat Joe]

That's what I'm saying. And your. Your Washington, your basketball team. Ain't nothing to brag about either, huh?

[Wale]

Them.

[Fat Joe]

The last thing y' all had was John Wall, huh?

[Wale]

Yeah, man. Shout out to John. We gon be all right soon, though.

[Jada]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Wale]

Trust the process. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

They look. They look pores lengthy. They look like you got.

[Wale]

You got more bar vocabulary.

[Jada]

Whoa, whoa.

[Fat Joe]

No, they don't. What you call that when they get the out of here, man? You know what the. I'm talking about them boy, he was animating.

[Wale]

He was animating something.

[Fat Joe]

He was animating something crazy.

[Jada]

I take that.

[Wale]

That was describing his with corporate porn.

[Fat Joe]

To be you as a basketball fan. I'm feeling real good right now.

[Wale]

My name you got. I think we went in the chip. Don't get too.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, we went in the chip.

[Wale]

I mean, somebody tell me.

[Fat Joe]

I want y' all pay off Pablo. All of America all over the world.

[Wale]

Talking about secret money, though, Joe.

[Fat Joe]

Huh?

[Wale]

Huh? They talking about the secret money in the NBA with these contracts and all of that. They say that they coming for the Knicks. That's what I heard.

[Fat Joe]

That's the rumor.

[Wale]

That's what they say.

[Fat Joe]

My do whatever they want, man. It's our time.

[Wale]

That's how niggas get you.

[Fat Joe]

Now, once we get our time, they want to come and start corruption.

[Wale]

The Clippers started it, but y' all gonna finish your problem.

[Jada]

You see how they swept that clipping under the rug.

[Wale]

They gonna.

[Jada]

They gonna make the Knicks a big.

[Wale]

He want Fat Joe and every give.

[Fat Joe]

A what they do. I'm telling you that our bench is stacked up. Our starting five is phenom.

[Wale]

You know, when people.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling y', all, people from other countries, Americans. That's how I'm telling you the truth right now. Listen to what I'm saying. He always gets mad at me. Delusion. I get it.

[Wale]

I get it. You're passionate about the next.

[Fat Joe]

We delusional. No, you are. No, we're winning the chip this year. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

[Jada]

You're gonna step out there and say that.

[Fat Joe]

I know so.

[Wale]

All right.

[Fat Joe]

What I'm trying to tell you is basketball's my life, guys. We could tell basketball is my life.

[Jada]

How often you get out there?

[Fat Joe]

He always says Rucker ain't NBA Joe. But what I can tell you is them six championships I won at the Rucker, we were stacked from 1 to 15. The Knicks have a bench and they gotta start in five. Nobody's gonna stop us this year. Y' all gonna see.

[Wale]

So you saying, Chris, I have high stars sitting on them. That the Knicks gonna be good? Cause you know how to coach. No, you.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not saying that. What I am. No, I know all them. Like, yeah. What I'm saying to you.

[Jada]

No, no, that's all I'm telling.

[Fat Joe]

NBA was stacked. Okay? Sorry for everybody else.

[Wale]

I root for the Knicks too. Cause I got a lot. We don't have nothing to root for most of the time in basketball. So I. I get it. I get it. But he kind of. That might be too big.

[Fat Joe]

No, I'm telling you, it's a reach.

[Wale]

It was a reach of reach.

[Fat Joe]

It's now enough. Boston fell apart. Every team. Boston fell apart.

[Jada]

Everybody's gonna be a little tough.

[Fat Joe]

They're gonna be.

[Wale]

I.

[Fat Joe]

They're not gonna beat him. And when they had everybody. We beat them last year. Everybody. Look, this is a Knicks walk in the park.

[Jada]

See, that's where you going. That's where the whole studio supposed to.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, that's.

[Jada]

You can't say that.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you. Locker room material health. With good health, nobody's beating us. I'm telling you, we gonna win this, Chip. We gonna around. Okay? See, and we just gotta, you know, we gotta rough them up a little. Okay. You know what I mean?

[Jada]

I seen you with tips. What's up with them?

[Fat Joe]

We might not want to know, man.

[Jada]

But love, I want to know. The people want to know.

[Fat Joe]

I went to buy that shit, right? I went up in there. I bought shit too. Yeah, you was in Louis. Chay was in them. You was in Louis. And you ain't know. I was across the street in Burdock. So you was like, yo, Joe, you and Louie? Cause I called.

[Jada]

That's where Tibbs was at.

[Fat Joe]

Tibbs was over there and burn off with me, by the way. Tibbs is mad. But I realized Tibbs walked away with 30 million. They fired.

[Jada]

One thing about Tibbs, he's up kind of is this.

[Wale]

That's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

I am. I hate myself.

[Wale]

They on the Belichick like that too.

[Fat Joe]

What do we gotta do? I gotta go to Mongolia to get out of here to make the.

[Wale]

They're gonna give him the same thing like nobody wants.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta go to Mongolia. I gotta get booked at some shows where the is like, yo, be careful, Joe. The gang members came in there with the guns and to make a$, make 30 million on the walk out. Why you not mad like me, man?

[Jada]

Ain't got nothing to do with that, man. Business, man.

[Fat Joe]

Well, Tim said. I told him come on the podcast, you know I love said, hell no. And he said, yes. What? He said, I'm gonna get your number. I said, yo, just. Just ask Worldwide. He said, wets won't be talking to him no time soon.

[Jada]

Yeah, they said, you should have knew that.

[Fat Joe]

He spot him with 30 million on the walkout.

[Jada]

Yeah, now, he wanted coach, man.

[Wale]

Yeah, he want to coach The Nigga Play.

[Fat Joe]

5800 West. Lives across the street from me. I seen him yesterday walking, exercise. I told him what Tim said.

[Wale]

He said, man, that's my guy, man.

[Fat Joe]

He said that, man, I know him 30 years. That man should have sent me some chocolates and champagne. He walked off with 30M.

[Jada]

He wants the coach.

[Wale]

He just can't see past that line.

[Fat Joe]

Somebody please give me 30m.

[Jada]

So could the National. They need 30m's right now. Tell you get out of here.

[Wale]

You out.

[Fat Joe]

I'm taking the 30 coconut. Coconut. But the ones that you could peel the inside with the spoon on the beach. Peace of the gods one fair rising Beloved rises beloved. I don't know what y' all waiting for. Like, yo, this is what we doing it for. You know what I'm saying? Like, let me get out of here.

[Wale]

30M.

[Jada]

How you feel about the state of the music industry? Whatever's left of it right now, man. Way his kids a lot.

[Wale]

My last album was, like, four years ago, and so much has happened.

[Jada]

Change printing, change dramatically for you.

[Wale]

Like, the styles, the sub genres, the. There's been artists that came and went in that time.

[Fat Joe]

That's a fact.

[Wale]

Literally came and went. Like the industry plant stuff that some people think is real, some people not. Like, you know, fans being more aware. It's the wild, wild west right now.

[Jada]

I think I'm on Def Jam, too.

[Wale]

Oh, yeah, you think?

[Jada]

The last time I went there, it was crazy. It's a bunch of young kids. It's like this show on Netflix with the levels that you, like, stay. And I went to the floor and there's a bunch of new youth.

[Fat Joe]

What's the show? Squeaky?

[Jada]

No, it's almost. It's like squid games mixed with the other shit that came out, doing the. The food on the man with the levels.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, the food. Yeah.

[Jada]

It's like that.

[Fat Joe]

Like that.

[Jada]

I went to this floor. I seen nobody I knew, but it was like a bunch of young kids, know what I'm saying? They in control. Then they took me all the way up to the Towers. Then I saw all of the people that I used to know, all of my people that worked on my album. So that freaked me out. That alone, it's a whole. They put the youth.

[Wale]

So many people are like, yeah, mad people.

[Jada]

I don't know. Then a few that I knew, they put them in the chimney.

[Wale]

Well, I never know.

[Jada]

What was that?

[Fat Joe]

The chimneys kind of cold.

[Jada]

Supposed to be kind of hot. Put them Up. I'm like, yo, I gotta meet a whole new.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you know, people gotta work. And the problem is that a lot of people that have been gatekeeping and they've been getting their checks for years.

[Jada]

And years and years and getting exposed.

[Fat Joe]

Lazy, and so they don't really want to put in that work and that pain, you know? I got a friend, he's my brother. I don't want to say his name, but say it. No, I can't do that. But he be telling me, yo, I gotta work. He been in the industry getting the check for 30 years. That's his man. And he's like, yo, they actually got me working. I said, well, what the fuck you think this is? Like, you're getting a check, you have to work.

[Wale]

There's not a lot of passion at all. There's not a lot of passion.

[Jada]

One thing I learned about this industry, when you find people that rock with you and go off for you, you should keep them rapport in relationships, because it's not going to be a lot of them that's passionate about their job and really want to help you. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

You know, I got both. I got. I agree with both of you guys, right? But, you know, it's a time for the youth to show what they know in the industry and all that. And we can't have. Look, what I'm gonna say. I ain't gonna say it because I got. No, no, no. Cause I got too many friends, too many people that I love, too many people responsible for my career, DJs and all that. But when you got DJs, unless they DJing in the greatest hits station, we got those 94, 7 the block WBLS. You can't be 60 trying to control the rap game. There gotta be some young dudes that gotta get up in there and start DJing. They gotta be some young kids that you gotta hire that know what's going on.

[Wale]

I think nobody got the patience. That's my experience with a lot of the younger people, because we trying to build a staff of what we've been with, too. But, like, everybody, they don't realize you gotta go from here to there to there. They think it's this for a couple of weeks and then it's right there. And like, all we know is, like, climbing up like that. But, like, instant gratification is like, you know what?

[Fat Joe]

What this conversation brings me to is Kanye west be bugged out, right? And he do bugged out shit. But I agree with him where the man is saying he's selling every Adidas sneaker. He a fucking billionaire. And they put him to talk to somebody's son when he's discussing his, his sneakers and all that. As a kid there making 90,000 a year, literally telling them what to do. Like, nah, we ain't doing it like that. Yo, we doing that. He like, yo, bro, I'm. I'm keeping the lights on in Adidas.

[Jada]

Yeah, but still, still protocol.

[Fat Joe]

You tell a billion dollar dude to walk up in there and what do.

[Jada]

You think the niggas that gave him that deal, what you think they got? I don't mean this, because he got that. It's still somebody higher than him and somebody higher than that.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, I agree with him. I agree with him. I think there's certain people that if, you know, they win all the time. They keep the lights on. They know how to put it up. Business man don't have no young kids.

[Jada]

You don't get what you asked for. You get what you negotiate.

[Fat Joe]

You know that.

[Jada]

I gotta use the bathroom on that.

[Fat Joe]

Oh. Who was the number one DJ in. In Washington D.C. i was a Z.

[Wale]

When you used to be coming all the time. I remember.

[Fat Joe]

No, that was Flex. Flex was the there of Flex.

[Wale]

DJ Flex and WBDC. Alize at 93.9 and then the light skinned.

[Fat Joe]

That's my man. What's the light skinned guy over there?

[Jada]

Pete stuff.

[Fat Joe]

Quick Silver the man.

[Wale]

Yeah, that's when I first met you, when you came to 93.9. Saw you there and I was.

[Fat Joe]

I was still Quick Silver, half that Joe in the back of his pocket. And every year I perform for his birthday party. I swear to God. Baltimore, D.C. now that he had me, every year he come. Yo, Joe. My birthday. Quicksilver the man. Flex the man. What's my man? Who at the show on bet.

[Wale]

Donnie Simpson.

[Fat Joe]

Joe Claire.

[Jada]

Joe Claire.

[Fat Joe]

Joe Claire. That's all dmc.

[Jada]

Yeah, it's all down there.

[Fat Joe]

We gotta shout them out. Quicksilver, Flex.

[Wale]

DJ Alize. DJ Alize, Bacon Bear.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, Steph, we all peace too, man. It wouldn't be no Fat Joe without peace too. He still. I love you, man. Everything you ever did for me. Quicksilver, Quick Silver, Flex, Steph Lover.

[Jada]

DJ Alize, Analyze, Analyze.

[Fat Joe]

Joe Claire.

[Jada]

Joe Claire.

[Wale]

Donnie Simpson.

[Jada]

Donnie Simpson.

[Fat Joe]

Big last Simpson. Hold up the whole Go Go music. Doing the butt era. Doing the butt.

[Jada]

Ow.

[Fat Joe]

Sex say. Sex say. Yo, that was this.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Watch my man. Let my music up. Don't do that. DJ Cool, bro legend.

[Jada]

DJ Cool. Everybody do. Listen. We all been booked to do halftimes at NBA shit. I just seen you rip Dubai. Nobody risked halftime like, DJ Cool. He did something I never. His shit wasn't off. They put his DJ on the court with. He tore the built. His was better than the game.

[Fat Joe]

Let me clear my throat. Have mercy, baby. You know I don't lie.

[Wale]

What?

[Fat Joe]

Let me clear my throat this thing.

[Jada]

I haven't got the words right to a song in years.

[Fat Joe]

I don't even get my own lyrics right there.

[Wale]

We feel it, though.

[Jada]

He switching auto Monty.

[Fat Joe]

I don't even get my own shit right. Yo, Remy. Fuck a podcast. Remy been disrespecting me forever. She was like, yo, bro, what the fuck wrong? You don't even get your words right. I said, you know I'm fried, yo.

[Jada]

Shout out. Shout out to North Carolina A and T. I just did their homecoming.

[Fat Joe]

You caught up body at that shit. I watched you on Instagram.

[Jada]

Let Fendi rock with me. Me never get. He was on the Feelings. No, he's saying his feelings was Yugoslavian. It was Sylvanian. It was everything except what they. I'm like, finley, you're not even saying American. You're saying, jim, don't say nothing in the same. He's filling it in. I'm saying this. I'm about to mess up the whole. I start laughing. I'm like, yo, no, shut up.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, I'm in Miami gibberish for the Philly. I'm in Miami. And you know how that shit happened. You definitely know. You one of the kings of this shit. I caught a miracle bag. They called me from Cancun, said, busta Miles, they coming.

[Jada]

Thank you.

[Fat Joe]

Man, did I need that bag right? So they sent a private plan. We went out there. Rich player was my hype man. Ooh, the worst performance ever seen in a yo stint of football. My nigga, yo, he still. He still be bragging about that 15 years later. Remember the time I hyped you up like, yo, that was the worst. Yo, we just can't do that money Monday morning quarterback. You let your man hype your up. That should be the worst. Fendi, he was good on nothing.

[Jada]

Like with the Aggie Pride. This, that. When there's no words when they drop this song. He should have just stepped back. He had a flashback. He thought he was Styles Luch. He thought he was mad people with money to get nobody right.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, Fendi's my man. I had a good. I love him, but I, I, I.

[Jada]

His eye man skills in finish, so he's never doing it.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Fendi Just stick to looking pretty, baby. Stay out the way. Let's go to the last song off the new lp.

[Jada]

Everything is a lot, man.

[Fat Joe]

You gotta love this album. This album is really, really great. He put in that work.

[Jada]

November 14th. Man, before you go, buy some. Purchase you some good music to do. You know what I mean? Stream it.

[Wale]

No, buy it.

[Jada]

Buy it.

[Wale]

Strings is cool.

[Jada]

The streams is cool, but we need per. We need sales.

[Wale]

There you go.

[Jada]

You know what I mean?

[Wale]

There you go.

[Jada]

We need sales.

[Fat Joe]

So I stream more albums. So what's the difference? You.

[Jada]

Nothing.

[Wale]

How you don't know. How you don't know.

[Fat Joe]

I don't have a sound system. I don't know how to buy.

[Jada]

I go and say that, ladies and gentlemen, he's delusional, right? He buys you artists, we buy your music and let's reciprocate.

[Fat Joe]

Let's toast to this now some Mesa spade. I see that. Sorry, I'm right there.

[Jada]

Everything's a lot. November 14th. All platforms shout out to my brother still going crazy. All you suck.

[Fat Joe]

Let me ask you one question before we go to that song. I seen you talking a lot about drinking and addiction and drinking. Did you go through a time?

[Wale]

I think everybody in this industry, if you've been in this zone longer than like six years, you've been through some traumatic shit. Like, regardless, I don't. I don't. I've yet to see any of our peers that have been in it for longer than six, seven years. It's like one or two traumatic things that kind of rewire how your brain is. So I think we all have indulged in vices at particular moments, like, for whatever reason, to push through something, to numb something, or simply because, like, this shit wasn't made for all this. Like, we wasn't made to see all these opinions and all that. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's just too much. It's too heavy. It's a lot. And then you have. Everything's a lot.

[Fat Joe]

And then you gotta act like you perfect and all that.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

This game.

[Wale]

You can't. This game.

[Fat Joe]

Yo. Sometimes they try to kill me. Wale. I'm not even lying.

[Wale]

Nah, they do. They come for you.

[Fat Joe]

Sometimes I be like. I be like.

[Wale]

But everybody. We all go.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody. But I be thinking it's the price we pay. Unfortunately, I don't know if it's just our community because we always got to refer back to the Jews and these guys, whether they get along.

[Jada]

We play the song.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jada]

What the.

[Fat Joe]

I'm trying to tell you now.

[Wale]

Hey, so look, everything's a lot. November 14th. This song is called Belly.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta finish one up.

[Wale]

And this song is called. This song is called Belly. Right? And it's just really about what we.

[Fat Joe]

Were just talking about, making it look like I was saying something bad.

[Wale]

I just. When I.

[Fat Joe]

How much my Jewish friends don't get along. They work together and they make money together and they do business together. And for some reason, I feel like in this industry, everybody try to knock you down for doing good. I'm just saying that the new song. Let's go, let's get to it. I like how you clean that up. It's the truth, though. That's all I was gonna say.

[Wale]

And welcome back. My name is Wale. This song's called Belly. And it's just really about balancing both sides of my life from the reality of the situation I'm in, trauma I've been through, and, like, survivor's guilt. Like, all of that in one.

[Jada]

This is called everything's a lot. November 14th.

[Wale]

Let's change this.

[Fat Joe]

Everything's alive.

[Wale]

They say the strange fake the box running this thing way Still I gotta make that band count My cheesecake all size this is my free play A man turning from my bible get your free f oh, wait tell me where we at Though I'm looking through the windows of your soul I own back though I lost some good man cuz they couldn't see the back though we black bearing arms now keep it in the satchel page all this hating on me isn't natural But God gave me this and atheist could see the passion and y' all lame hydroplaning with the crash out but everything a lot so bring everything yeah, we celebrating my opposition ain't not the missing God's good but I often question him when he listen the hate is bigger than me the weight is bigger than me they crashing out I feel like I'm at Talladega winning Chocolate City win we supposed to be good Never thought I'd see Rap11 on social media they out they cotton picking minds they don't know the details Me and cash talking silk temple Beverly Hills Southwest Southwest shout out to 106 every show I had a platinum they was getting me lit Everybody show you love when you giving them one day you say no and no longer pretend to be friends that's right, man don't sketch God drawing and I lost to dippers I lost some defense I lost it all when I got it all on my target again when Everything you do again defensive you be hard to defend I'm going.

[Fat Joe]

Love this Top rapper.

[Wale]

Fans on Melro chain on mayday I rest patient friends on jpeg hacking can I express and the that got me rich that depression and the pressure is the look wine drinking and Malibu is a ma used to buy ten dollar pieces with nine bucks a dollar short a day late with broad ways I'm sorry I'm not for play play small conversations I vacate they all say we brothers I feel like I'm Bison daylight I got a stripper from LA my cousin just had a wedding I put her ass in the K yeah maybe I'm way too careless I'm maybe need to appear to my parents I'm on the same wave the ebb and flow of this talent is like a balancing neck but my parents gave me my stage name Bands on Melrose chain on Mayday IRS patient friends on jpeg how can I express in the that got me rich that depression and depression is the trans all Melrose chain on mayday I rest patient everybody waiting how can I express in the that got me lit the depression depression the same thing and the ballet and the ballet gotta be.

[Jada]

I was not.

[Fat Joe]

This ain't that that ain't this Crack and kiss Give it up for our guest, the one and only Wale.

[Wale]

Thank y' all very much for your hospitality.

[Jada]

Everything's a lot. November 14th you heard me.

[Wale]

Let's get it.

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[Wale]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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