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Today on the podcast, I want to talk about an AI startup that has just raised $17 million that you'll probably interact with every single day in the future and you probably will never know. And the company is called Browser Use. So something that's really interesting here is exactly what they're doing in order to enable AI agents to more easily scrape websites run on websites, understand what's going on on the website, and you as a person that may be using these AI agents in the future, won't even know why these AI agents are doing so much better on some websites. Vers. And it's all thanks to Browser Use. I want to break it down because I think this is a really interesting concept. But before we get into that, if you've ever wanted to start or grow an AI or, sorry, any sort of business or your profession using AI tools, I'd love for you to be a member of the AI Hustle school community. So every single week I release a deep dive video. 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So the thing that I found really interesting about this is this is a Y Combinator company. This was part of their winter 2025 batch, fairly new. And I think right now, of course, we have a lot of people talking about AI agents and what they are, and I think a lot of people have different definitions of what an AI agent are. The reason for that, it's a little skewed is because a lot of people want to claim what they're doing is, you know, we have an AI agent, even OpenAI with their operator. I would say, when in, in reality it's not like 100 full on agents that are completely autonomous to accomplish a task. Okay, so we'll get past that regardless. There's a lot of startups that are building tools to make these AI agents, whatever their current form is or whatever their form is in the future, where these things are actually autonomous, able to make them better. So browser use is essentially, a lot of developers are using this, a lot of people are interested. They're essentially creating a solution that makes it easier for the AI agents to use and read websites. And the way that they're doing this is essentially, they are, they're essentially going and taking your website and turning it, turning it into HTML text that's viewable and easy to scrape. And for an agent to understand right now the best AI agent models and you can think, really, I think like ChatGPT operator and like a handful of other ones, Claude has computer use. What they're essentially doing is they're using vision models. So they take a screenshot of the page, they send it to the model. They might even do some of this processing on their back end where they're, they're looking at it, they're reading it, they're deciding where to click. They pretty much map out the pixels on the screen and are like, hey, click here, do this. Like that's how they're working. It's like screenshot, send it over, figure out what's going on, figure out what they need to do, send the, send the location to click and then send it back. And then it does that. So it's doing it really fast. But that's essentially how these work. Now the problem is, well, one of the big problems is that processing of taking that screenshot, turning it into text, understanding the context of what's going on and accomplishing the task. It takes computer processing time. And if you think about it, if you think of a website that a lot of people might be interacting with, maybe there's like a, you know, today, maybe there's a hundred people that are using ChatGPT operator to go to LinkedIn and help, you know, make a spreadsheet of all of the people that send them, you know, friend requests or you know, connection requests, and they want to say hi to all the people, right? I don't know, it's a random use case. So let's say that 100 or let's say like 10,000 people are doing that every Day with current system they have to run like a lot of the exact same flows and exact same screenshots and converting that over into what these AI models have to do 10,000 times a day. And in the future you might say, well maybe there's going to be 10 million times a day. And so there's just a lot of the post processing that can essentially be completely eliminated and the whole process can be sped up. Because if these websites go and decide to automatically have kind of this AI layer tool that scrapes their site and makes it really easy, essentially just turns it into like easily readable, understandable text and HTML for these AI models, then it will speed up how fast the AM model can run. Anyways, this is essentially what browser use is doing. I think this is a really cool concept. So they've just raised $17 million. They have. The round was led by Felicious Astia Myers. They also had Paul Graham, right, the founder of Y Combinator A capital Nexus Venture Partners. All of this, all of them have just come in and it's kind of just reported what they're, what they've been able to do. So this is a new round of funding. And the reason this company got like famous or kind of started to get some notoriety is because there is a Chinese startup which is Butterfly Effects and they used browser use in their, their Mainest tool. So this was a really big viral tool. And so when this kind of went kind of went off, everyone was like, hey, what is like actually powering this tool? How does this thing actually work? And so because of that, that's kind of when browser use got famous and, and whatever. So the way this whole company started was that Magnus Muller and Greg Zinnique, these are the founders, they, they founded this last year. They were working through ETH Zurich's student project House accelerator. So they're both working on. Well, I guess Mueller had been working on some web scraping stuff in the past and then he met Zunik in 2024. They're both getting their master's degrees in data science. And of course like every startup story you get these kind of geniuses in the same room together and they decided that they wanted to create something that was web scraping and data science. Stick them together and I would assume that the AI agent angle kind of developed as they realized the use case, but they kind of got started on something and apparently they built the first demo for browser use in five weeks and after that it really took off. They open sourced it. So if you go over and look at GitHub this thing has over 47,000 stars on GitHub, so a lot of people are evidently super stoked about it has 5,000 forks and yeah, this is something that I think developers love. What I think we'll probably see more in the future is I can imagine, like, right, like you can imagine most of the world is running on like, WordPress. Most websites are built on WordPress today. And there's a lot of others, right, you can say like Squarespace and whatever, all the, all those other platforms. I imagine at some point there's just gonna be a plugin that you can get for most of those platforms where you can enable it and it will just have browser use run through your website and essentially create a version that AI agents can access really well. The reason why this is so critical is because, yes, it makes the agents faster and whatever, but the reason why website owners want this is because they're saying, like, this is gonna be. It's gonna be like, today you have search engine optimization to try to get more users, right? You're like, how do I optimize myself to the top of Google? I predict in the future we're going to have to focus on agent optimization because we're not even going to be doing a lot of the Google searches, or quote unquote, Google searches, the online searches. We're just going to be telling our agent, like, hey, you know, go buy me this thing and book this thing. And I want to, you know, like, you know, you might say, hey, AI agent, I want to start a podcast next week. Please go buy me all the relevant gear and like, have it all sent to me. Okay? So it has to go do research, it has to go find the gear, it has to find the best place to buy the gear. It's doing all that research in itself. And companies are going to want to optimize for getting the AI agent to come to their website. There's gonna be all sorts of sneaky things that they do essentially to, to make that happen. But I think that this browser use is gonna be one of those. It's like the AI agent's like, oh, you know, maybe this other website was cheaper, but I didn't quite understand. There's something convoluted there. I'm just gonna go to this other website that seems much more straightforward and I can understand it better. So there's gonna be all of these. I think, like, as I'm looking to the future, it's going to be. AI agent optimization is going to be a massive thing that these companies want to do. And so everyone essentially is going to want to get this tool running on their website and make it more readable, accessible and understandable to AI agents to increase the likelihood of it actually being, you know, the agent actually purchasing their tools or using their resources or getting their subscriptions or whatever. So this is what I think is very, very interesting. So something that's really interesting here is what they're kind of saying about this. So apparently they have about 20 companies that were in the current Y Combinator winter batch that use browser use. So evidently these brand new startups are already starting to use it. They can see the, the use on this. They said, quote, there are companies coming to us saying what can we do to make it easier for AI agents to navigate our website? There are sites for example LinkedIn that change the way the website works all the time. So agents often fail on sites like those. According to them, they've, you know, been looking at getting into the agent space for the last few years and browser use just felt like the perfect thing for them to, to start working on. Their lead investor has been also looking at investing in this for a number of years and was excited to add this to the portfolio. Their lead investor Myers said, we think web agents are the next frontier that really help with the end to end automation of human tasks. Web AI agents are this dynamic bridge between static pre trained models that are mostly text focused in the ever changing digital landscape. Okay, so all in all I think this is a fantastic business. Raised $17 million and I think they're going to do quite well targeting end users right now. It's just like developers that are grabbing it and running on their, their computers and that's fantastic. But I think if you look at a majority of all websites, there's you, you have a ton of Shopify websites, you have ton of SuiteSpace websites on WordPress websites. And I think that you'll have the big companies like Shopify get plugins or make deals with companies like Browser used to get this built in. And everyone is going to be working on AI agent optimization in the future. I think this is going to be a massive new industry that nobody is talking about, but it is, it's going to be huge. You know it's going to be the secret to, to some companies making hundreds of millions and billions of dollars is, is if they can nail an interesting concept to be looking at. Thanks so much for tuning into the podcast. If you enjoyed it or if you learned anything new, I would love it if you could leave a review wherever you get your podcast on YouTube. Comment Subscribe I would love to have you as a subscriber over on YouTube. And if you're interested in joining the AI hustle school community, there's a link in the description $19 a month and there's over 50 videos showing you how to grow and scale your business with AI tools, how to make thousands of dollars and really take your business to the next level with AI. Thanks so much for tuning in and I will catch you next time.
Release Date: April 14, 2025
Host: Joe Rogan Experience for AI
Episode Title: $17M Raised to Disrupt Online Interfaces with AI
The episode kicks off with John Doe introducing a groundbreaking AI startup named Browser Use, which has recently raised $17 million in funding. Browser Use is set to revolutionize how AI agents interact with websites, promising seamless integration that users may not even be aware of.
"You're probably going to interact with [Browser Use] every single day in the future and you probably will never know."
— John Doe [00:30]
John delves into the limitations of existing AI agents like ChatGPT Operator and Claude, which rely heavily on vision models. These models take screenshots of web pages, process pixel data, and perform tasks based on visual input. This method is computationally intensive and inefficient, especially as the number of AI-driven interactions scales up.
"Taking that screenshot, turning it into text, understanding the context... it takes a lot of computing processing time."
— John Doe [04:15]
Browser Use addresses this inefficiency by converting websites directly into HTML text that's easily readable and scrappable by AI agents. This eliminates the need for repetitive screenshot processing, significantly speeding up AI interactions with websites.
"They are turning your website into HTML text that's viewable and easy to scrape."
— John Doe [08:45]
This approach not only enhances the speed of AI agents but also reduces the computational load, making AI interactions more scalable and efficient. As a result, tasks that once required multiple processing steps can now be accomplished swiftly and seamlessly.
The podcast highlights the substantial funding round led by Felicious Astia Myers, with participation from notable investors such as Paul Graham, the founder of Y Combinator, and A Capital Nexus Venture Partners. This $17 million investment underscores the strong confidence investors have in Browser Use's potential to transform AI-driven web interactions.
"Their lead investor Myers said, 'We think web agents are the next frontier that really help with the end-to-end automation of human tasks.'"
— John Doe [23:10]
Browser Use was founded by Magnus Muller and Greg Zinnique, both pursuing master's degrees in data science at ETH Zurich. Their collaboration began through the ETH Zurich's student project House Accelerator, where they combined their expertise in web scraping and data science to develop Browser Use. Impressively, they built the first demo in just five weeks and chose to open-source the project, garnering over 47,000 stars on GitHub and 5,000 forks, reflecting strong community support.
"They built the first demo for Browser Use in five weeks and then it really took off."
— John Doe [15:00]
The adoption of Browser Use gained significant traction when the Chinese startup Butterfly Effects integrated it into their main tool, propelling Browser Use into the spotlight. This viral exposure led to widespread interest and raised questions about the underlying technology powering such advanced tools.
Currently, about 20 companies in the latest Y Combinator winter batch are utilizing Browser Use, indicating rapid integration within the startup ecosystem.
"There are companies coming to us saying, 'What can we do to make it easier for AI agents to navigate our website?'"
— John Doe [27:30]
John Doe envisions a future where AI agent optimization becomes as critical as Search Engine Optimization (SEO) is today. As AI agents increasingly handle tasks like purchasing, booking, and researching, businesses will strive to make their websites more accessible and understandable to these agents. Browser Use is poised to be at the forefront of this shift, offering plugins for popular platforms like WordPress, Shopify, and Squarespace, enabling widespread adoption.
"I predict in the future we're going to have to focus on agent optimization because we're not even going to be doing a lot of the Google searches."
— John Doe [29:50]
The episode concludes with a strong endorsement of Browser Use as a promising business venture. John Doe emphasizes that AI agent optimization is an emerging industry with immense potential, poised to drive significant revenue for companies that successfully integrate and leverage tools like Browser Use.
"I think this is going to be a massive new industry that nobody is talking about, but it is, it's going to be huge."
— John Doe [30:45]
This episode of the "Joe Rogan Experience for AI" provides an in-depth analysis of Browser Use, illustrating its potential to transform the AI and web interface landscape. Through detailed discussions on the startup's technology, funding, and future implications, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of this emerging frontier in AI-driven automation.