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You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review.
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What a bizarre thing we've created now.
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With your host, Adam Thorne. This might either be the worst podcast or the best one.
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One. Go. Enjoy the show.
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Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the JRE Review. First off, I want to say that we are gearing up for a very special episode release that's going to drop somewhere around Christmas, maybe New Year's. We haven't quite decided where. We have Kagan Gill on F18 pilot. We are discussing their long awaited release of the documentary what the hell is it called?
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Totally forgot the Age of Disclosure.
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There we go. And the UAP discussion that has been all over the Internet. It was a wild conversation. It blew my mind. I know Brandon's still in shock. I can see on his face.
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I'm shaking. Yeah, I'm. It changed everything. It was actually amazing. He has some personal experiences with UAPs and tells some stories and give some insights on what he sees in the future and where he sees all this going as well as like some more insight into UFOs, aliens, UAPs. Just some really interesting stuff. It was really awesome and kind of an honor to talk to him. Just amazing guy. Yeah, it was great.
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It was one of the best pods, the. The most enjoyable pod I think I've ever done. For sure. Keep your eyes out for that. We will be releasing it soon, kind of the end of the year, little special treat and yeah, pretty exciting and I know you guys are going to love it. Who are we reviewing today? Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke on jre. What a good guest. What a nice guest. Good December, end of the year guest. This guy is an absolute legend. If you are a movie fan and you don't like Ethan Hawke, I don't even know what to say. He's up there with Denzel. He's that cool.
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Yeah. Better keep your mouth shut, Tarantino, because this guy, this guy's the best one of like just such an amazing actor, man. So incredible. And it's cool how not only is he a great actor, but he's just like such a down to earth cool dude at the same time.
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Yeah, he definitely sounded. He was just like I expected him to be. You know what I mean? It's like how Matthew McConaughey was just that way as well. Often, often like the, the rock stars and the actors get on Rogan or you see him on interviews and they're just weirder or wackier or kind of like more stuck up or full of themselves than you would expect. And it just kind of ruins it a bit. Or they're a bit like, I don't know, they're a bit kind of like ass kissy or just like empty vessels almost, just kind of like crowd pleasing. I felt like John Cena was a bit like that.
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But.
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But sometimes you get someone that's just very real, very down to earth like you. You just for sure know if you met them anywhere, this is what they're. This is who they are. This is a real person. And to be famous for as long as he has been and as good of an actor as he has been and to just be that normal, that normal sounding is. Is. Is pretty damn impressive. I mean, he can't go anywhere without people recognizing him for sure.
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Yeah, it was a real fly on the wall conversation where it didn't feel like a production in terms of their conversations, his awareness, it just felt like two dudes at a bar shooting the shit, catching up after a while. It was so good, man. It's like why I love this conversation is not only does he seem like someone you would want to be friends with, but he had some amazing insights too. Just a really knowledgeable guy. And his views on acting, everything he learned from his parents, his childhood, really interesting stuff.
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Yeah, it was like a cool biography. Almost definitely autobiography. And those are really the best ones. When you get somebody on an actor for the first time and it kind of really breaks down the behind the scenes. Obviously, you know, we've seen his movies and them through the years. Often you've seen kind of a bit of their personal life. You know, with actors, often you've heard some of the controversies, you at least know who they've dated, you know, but to get. Get that extra bit of an insight and to hear some of the hardships too, the challenges that they faced and, and how they kind of overcame some of those things, it's. It's really cool. And also what inspired them.
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Yeah, and how some of those hardships were like, great to have happened. You know what I mean? Like with that first movie flop, how that really like changed his trajectory and like, mindset. He actually went to school after that, had a little bit of a normal life before he really dove into acting where, you know, they talk about if that first role took off and really did a lot for him, he could have been, you know, on the podcast, coming straight out of rehab, 18 ex wives, you know, and they dive into that, how important having an actual childhood is and how so many child actors just spiral and it's just not good for you to. Joe has that whole concrete analogy, which I agree with. And it's just cool to hear, like, a child actor come out of it and survive and have his insights and his stories, because it really makes you, you know, see this in a whole new light.
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It does seem like so few of them make it out. Well, Jody Foster was the one they talked about. Right. That they think is.
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Yeah.
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And she was very young.
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Very. Yeah. Macaulay Culkin was definitely an example of one who didn't, but. But managed to come back. He's been pretty good. He's doing very good now. Yeah.
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He actually had a really good episode on Rogan. I thought.
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Yeah, that was a good one. I should revisit that one, actually. But.
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Yeah, but talking about child stars and that first movie flop, I mean, that was with River Phoenix, who, as we know, child star grew up, ended up ODing, I think, at Johnny Depp's club.
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Yeah.
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The Viper Room was massively famous. And, you know, Hollywood hit him hard. And it's just. I mean, it's so much. It just kind of hits you in the face and, you know, like, Ethan Hawke said, like. And I really do believe it. It's easy to kind of say it years later. I'm sure at the time he wished that that movie blew up, but he said that he couldn't be more thankful that it went that way. And it's something important to remember for anybody. It's like, you know, when something doesn't go exactly the way that you want it, take. Try to take a second and not see it as this giant failure that's ruined your life. It might actually be exactly what you needed it to be. I know it sounds a bit cliche. And you. You know, and it's. Who's to say, right? But sometimes it's really clear. I think everyone can look back on points of their life and see where a left turn was made that you didn't want to happen. And then you realize five other things that have become really good in your life you wouldn't have seen at all if you hadn't gone that direction. You wouldn't have ended up anywhere close to it without that.
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Yeah. Failure is only failure if you don't learn anything from it. You know, there's so many learning lessons out of every mistake. And this was a masterclass in picking yourself back up and continuing on. Because look where he is now. You know, I do also want to add that I thought was really cool is just his talk about his parents and his father and how his, his father pretty much kept him in reality the whole time instead of just like, you know, there's so many dads when it comes to child actors who just sell the soul of their kid. This where this dude was like, you know, being so real about it, had real integrity, is like, yeah, but who are you? Who, who gives a. About the money? Who are you really? And it just goes to show like I feel like the, the like parents and it's a con, it's a topic and a conversation that I don't really hear much about of the role that like the psychology of the parents when it comes to the kid. Because it's like, yeah, the kid, you know, gets all this money, gets all this fame it him up. But I feel like a parent can be a safety net potentially. And I think this was a great example of that. Where of course, you know, the first movie flopped and then he went back to school and was able to have a bit of a childhood. But I also want to think that even if that first movie did well, his dad could have helped him enough where he still would have been okay because his dad just seems so level headed and so honest and just so in touch with reality and the horrors and everything that being a child actor can do to a kid.
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You definitely don't want to be surrounded by people that are really excited about celebrity. If when you start becoming a celebrity because then everyone you know starts acting weird around you, you're not, you're definitely not going to get honesty out of anybody. And if you're not getting honesty out of your own parents, that's a bad place to be because the guidance is just gone.
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Because it's. They don't see you, they don't see you as a kid anymore as, as their child. They see you as a product that they're trying to sell and that's so dangerous for the kid. Yeah. And just like, you know, that's you, you talking about how. Yeah. Hearing people talk about you and everything. And then that makes me think of the story where they're in the bathroom and there's some people in the bathroom at like the premiere of their movie, the first movie. And they're like, yeah, was, doesn't that movie suck? And they're in the bathroom just hearing people talk like on their movie, which that has to be good, you know, instead of just the instant gratification of this is awesome. This is, you guys are like gods that, that kill like and hurt so many, so many young actors. Yeah. You know what was cool also Just, I. I've heard a lot of actors talk about, like, immersing themselves in roles, but I, I found this to be really cool how it was described here. I, I really haven't heard it be described like this at all. Where, you know, what is method acting? You know what I mean? And definition of it. I thought that was real interesting how, like, it's not. There's no real strict definition. I always thought there was, you know, you look at, you know, the Joker, there's so many examples of actors that acting where he kind of says, it's really just the eye of the beholder here, where it's not just a strict definition of just pretend, like just straight, I am the joker now. Where everyone has their own definition of it, whether reading 20 books, whether, you know, locking yourself in a prison cell, whatever it is, whatever it takes to unlock that imagination, which I just thought was so cool.
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Yeah, I really like that too. And I was under the same, the same misconception, I guess. Like, I really did think that it was like you just become that person and then you don't get out of character. What was it Jim Carrey did?
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Man on the Moon.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he did that guy and was like that person for a long time. Supposedly, like, literally became like an asshole for like a long time as well. When he was being him and the end, his performance was spectacular and everyone hated working with him, and it was fantastic. And I'm like, well, but that's how you do that. And it's really good and probably is weird for everyone around you, but it also just kind of makes sense that there could be other ways. Because at the end of the day, it's about making the performance. Because if you think about it, there's people like Matt Damon, who has said that he doesn't do that type of method acting. He's just himself on set. And then he jumps into the role. Leo doesn't do that either. He. He's himself and then he jumps into the role. He has this like, second before scenes where he can become the character, but there's definitely something he's doing to figure out who the character is. Right. Which by definition is his own method.
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Exactly, exactly. And it's a lot more personalized than people think. You can't just. Cause, you know, it's so bullshit. You know, seeing the whole thing with Jared Leto sending like a dead bird and a used condom to other actors, being like, I'm the joker, this I'm crazy. You know, it's. It's. It's more personalized than just pretending to be the dude on set. And this is a such a great insight on that. I, I, it really changed my perspective on acting. Not that I'm an actor.
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Did Jared Leto really do that?
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Yeah, man, when he was, when he was the joker in Suicide Squad, he was just the worst on set. Apparently. He was sending, like, used condoms to other actors. He sent a dead bird in a bag, I think just some craz. Crazy, stupid. And then it turned out to be one of the cringiest performances, I think. I thought he was terrible.
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I mean, to be fair, he was in a long line of great joker actors, to be honest. And that he. I don't even know what to say. That's just like, dude, you were trying way too hard and clearly did not pull that off. That's sad. That's real sad for him.
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Yeah. It's almost worse than bad acting with how committed he was, which is really insulting.
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But, yeah, I did see a thing on Instagram not that long ago where somebody said, list your four favorite jokers actors. And then, you know, because there's been five, right? Like, including even the Adam west, like, TV version. And then even Jared Leno on Instagram wrote, hey, there were five. Or thanks a lot, there were five. And, and like, just how disrespectful, like, that whole setup was. It was like, clearly they left him off for a reason.
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How people aren't even acknowledging him. That's so funny. Yeah, he was just the worst. The absolute worst. And, yeah, you know, and they talk about, you know, he talks about exploring roles through identity. And I love, I love the Kris Kristofferson story. I'm not sure how much of a country guy you are. I love old country, like, outlaw country. And Chris Christopherson's this, you know, was in the Highwayman. Toured with Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, some of the greats. Alcoholic one, just a classic old country guy, you know. And then he talks about in his first film how he's, like, ripping off this, this French director, and he's like, here's what you're doing. You're, you're walking in each room, and then you're sitting down and you're having the bottle of whiskey, and, And Christopherson goes, have you ever been an alcoholic?
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He's like, dude, you're an idiot. I would never do that.
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He's like, I'm drinking that thing, like, out the door of the liquor store. It's like, what, what the hell do you think I'm, I'M gonna do here. It's amazing. So good.
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It's amazing.
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What a legend. He. He died, I think. I think it was. It was late last year. Chris, he was great.
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Great in Blade.
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Yeah, Some shitty roles, for sure.
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Yeah, dude, he was great in Blade. Don't you dare say that.
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I completely forgot he was in Blade. Why the hell was he in Blade?
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Legendary role. God, that was a good movie.
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Crazy. I got to rewatch Blade. It's been a. It's been a while.
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Blade one is. Is. Is up there.
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It's literally one legendary.
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People don't think legendary.
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Yeah, I know.
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No, that was a great. That was a great example because, you know, and. And I think it really speaks to this kind of, like, humbled theme that he talked about throughout, where, you know, he's going in as this famous actor, but he's willing to say, hey, yeah, I am a director, and I think I am good, and I want to be a good actor. But let me tell you this story about this time. I completely missed the. The mark, and I got told by this person, hey, that's not how it would go at all. You're completely wrong. And this is why. And I listened to it, and then the scene was much better. Like, that's cool, man.
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That's your idol, too.
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Yeah, that's. That's really cool that he was able to say that. I mean, also down to that point where he said when he was younger, he went to that kind of acting mentor who said, come here with all of your expertise and all the things that you've done and say that you don't know how to do anything. And if you can say that, I can work with you, and if you can't, then we can't work together. You have to be a beginner again. And that's a really cool thing to think about because I think we all can accidentally think we're good at something. And Brandon, you can speak to this. It was always a death sentence with stand up early on. To ever think that you were good at it? Do you ever notice that? Yeah.
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And a lot of, like, open micrs and everything have that mindset. Even like, you know, the first two years of comedy, I remember just being like. Like, you know, I'd kill. And I'd be like, I'm the fucking best. I'm so good at this. You know, and then, like, I went to Austin and there are so many comics. It's such a humbling. It was such a humbling experience because you're doing, like, you know, I was. When I was in Austin, I was doing eight mics a night, and just some of the mics were just brutal. In Boston, the bar is a little, like. You know, everyone has this thing of, like, the bar so high in Boston, it's really low. And it's so low that, like.
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I mean, it was. It was higher in the 80s and 90s.
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Oh, my God.
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It was.
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It was the highest. It was the highest in the world in the 80s, in the 90s. Now it's like. It's. You know, I. There's a. I don't. And I'll wrap this up real quick. There's a Boston guy. He was. He. Danny Kelly. He got. You know, he was a regular at the Comedy Store, moved back to Boston. He's a good friend of mine, and he said that now, nowadays there's not a single headliner in Boston. And I think that's kind of true, unfortunately. But that was the environment I started in. And then I'm like, boston, one of the greatest comedy scenes in the world. I'm, you know, getting booked on all these shows. I'm having better sets than, you know, some people who are headliners. It's like, I'm gonna go to Austin and kill it. They went to Austin, and it was so humbling, dude. I came back and I'm like, the world is so much bigger than this. This little scene, you know, and. And it just changed my perspective on any. Everything. And this happens in every single art form, you know, And I thought there were some really cool parallels here with comedy. Even Joe jumps into it a little bit with some parallels he's had with. With his life and with acting and comedy. And I thought that was interesting, too. It's not just an acting thing in terms of, like, what he's talking about in his experiences. You can find these experiences in all walks of life, I think.
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For sure. For sure. And, you know, it's that humbling theme that's very important. I. You know, it just doesn't make you any better to think that you're too good at something. It's like, don't get me wrong, if you want to indulge on that for a day, let's say it's Christmas or the end of the year, and you just want to kind of, like, you know, bask in your success and a bit of glory and reflect on your successes and just be like, yeah, I nailed it this year. Well done. And, yeah, I'm really good at that. But tomorrow comes, take a step back and get back to work and be humble because, you know, going into something with a big head is just. It really is just not useful because there are levels to everything, and you're gonna get smashed.
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I mean, and just because Tarantino smashes you doesn't mean you're bad, you know?
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Now that's a good point. And I love that they brought that up. And, you know, Ethan brings up a good point. How much love has come out for. What's that guy's name again?
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Paul Dano.
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Oh, there we go. How much love has come out for him? And let's be fair, how many people have gone back and watched that scene and been like, that's a good scene, dude. Come on. Yeah, there are definitely worse actors.
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The ending of There Will Be Blood is one of the best. One of the best endings in all film. And just Paul Dan is so good in that ending.
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I think he is good. Yeah. I mean, if Daniel Day Lewis says, you're a good actor, you're a good actor, dude. There's just no way around it. I mean, look, Quentin says a lot of things. I mean, Ethan hit the nail on the head. And he also said something else very important as well. And Ethan was fair and I think wouldn't have even upset Quentin with this. He was like, look, you get a few drinks in Spielberg in a quiet corner of a bar, he's going to say some things too. Okay? People just talk a lot, you know, and that's. That's a good point. It's like, that's very true. One thing I wanted to talk about, they hit on critics. And I thought that Joe had a really good point when he brought up that thing about Fear Factor and the critic that was like, you know, after 9 11, do you really think that you should be making this show? That's, like, scary. And, you know, Joe kind of went at him, and this guy was like, hey, that was mean what you said. And Joe just made this point of like, dude, these things are not connected. Yes. I'm the first to admit this show is stupid. Like, I'll give you that. Like, that's totally reasonable. I'm not defending this show, but connecting those two pieces and then getting mad at me, for me saying that's stupid to do is just doesn't make any sense. You can't live in that world, like, circling like that. That's not how to be a critic.
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Yeah. Who also, who the fuck watches Fear Factor and is like, this is like 9 11. Like. Like, what kind of mindset is that of like, oh, I'M scared. Like I was on 9 11. Like, like, like in that, like that perspective also it's like, oh, so should we stop making horror movies too? Like, that is the dumbest.
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Not scared anymore. Things can only be happy after 911 because that was scary.
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We need to ban fear. Like, what the hell are you talking about?
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Well, number one, Fear Factor wasn't even scary. It was more just exciting and disturbing. Scary things are like horror movies, right? They're like things that jump out. I mean, I guess it could make you a bit anxious.
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Your factor heights like, I didn't watch. Ever watch Fear Factor was like, I'm shaking. I'm so scared. I. I am. I'm terrified.
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Gross. Or whoa, that's nuts. They get to jump over that thing.
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Yeah. And those are all things I did not think during 9 11. There's no connection.
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I didn't think any of that. No dumb comparison. Joe was 100% right making that comparison. And to be fair, another thing he said, and you know, I hate to. I'm glad we have critics, right? Like as a job or as a hobby. Like, that's the thing. People should write reviews. They're useful. I look on Amazon and I want to see how many stars a thing has or Google to see, like, should I go to this restaurant? The same with movies though these days it's kind of useless because I'd rather see the audience reviews than the critics because they're often opposite and it's hard to even tell. But you know, back in the day, you would listen to Cisco and Ebert or whatever those guys names were and be like, oh, was it two thumbs up for whatever this movie is, you know, before I go watch it. But Joe is right. It's like they often are people that couldn't write, couldn't act, couldn't do a lot, and they just critique. And I think that's probably true with, like, people that do, like food critics as well. I think I've heard Gordon Ramsay talk about that. Now, the only one I will give credit to is Anthony Bourdain, though I will allow that because he's a legend. RIP.
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B
It's hard to. It's hard to look at that, though. I think there definitely is a fine line because any criticism is someone who hates their lives. Reddit, I, I get, I really understand that because Joe telling that story, famous comedian goes on Reddit and it's like, everyone hates me. And Joe's like, no, dude, they hate themselves. Where I think there is a fine line like when, when you look at someone, like, too lazy to try on YouTube. I don't think he, like, is. I don't think he hates himself. I. I think people are just into drama, you know, I. I think there is a fine line because you also have political commentators. You have political commentators too, who critique politics and politicians. I don't think they all hate their lives. I. I hate my life. So I'm going to go into politics, which honestly isn't rare. But. But I think there is a fine line. And I don't necessarily agree with the opinion on anyone who critiques is miserable.
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No, I don't either. And let me tell you my theory on Elephant Graveyard, for example, and I don't know if we talked about this, but we have reviewed one of his things for our Patreon. I think Elephant Graveyard and why his mov. His little docu comedies are so thorough is because. Or. And so knowledgeable, really, when. When it's like, about Rogan or Kill Tony space or whatever is. Because he must have been a very dedicated fan for a long time. He knows that space inside and out. That's why he hit so hard with the jokes and the. The little things that he said. But now he's obviously a little. Kind of. I think he feels a bit betrayed by the space. I think he's seen some changes within maybe Joe as a podcaster or a comedian and even Kill Tony as a thing, you know, because they have changed a lot. I mean, Kill Tony used to be a cult thing, you know, people used to know it originally, and it was like when we used to pass around tapes of that one band that nobody's heard of, and it was punk rock, and we were like, oh, yeah, they're cool. Check this out. But now, all of a sudden, they're mainstream and we can't think they're cool anymore because they do stadiums.
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B
They used to barely have enough for.
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A lot of people.
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B
Exactly. They used to barely have enough bucket poles. I had a friend who was living in la and when Kill Tony started and he was saying, yeah, there would be like five names in the bucket.
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Dude, that was me. I used to go and sign up. They'd have 10 people.
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B
How insane is that?
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In the Belly Room. And they'd have 40 people in that. 40 people for kill Tony. Like, nobody was, like, excited to go watch it. It was just, you know. But they still had dope guests. There'd be like, top. Like the. You know, Kristalia would be up there. Obviously, this was before the Chris Dalia stuff, so. But he was like, one of the main headliners. I saw Bill Burr on it once, so they had. They had big time guys.
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B
You were there at the Bill Burr episode?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. He was. He was not into the show.
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B
That's a. That's a famous episode. I love that episode. I can't believe you.
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Oh, dude. I used to go. I used to go almost every week to that one. Well, the reason I was always there is because the open mic was Monday.
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Oh, yeah.
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So they used to do the open mic on Mondays. I think they did one. I think it was Sunday and Monday. And then they would have killed Tony as well.
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Yeah.
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And I wouldn't sign up for Kill Tony often. I hated the idea of that minute. It seemed terrifying. It just. But I did sign up a few times. I just never got pulled, and I never got pulled when there was tiny signups. I couldn't believe it. You probably got picked when there was like, 400 people on there.
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Yeah, I heard there was around 400. Yeah. And it was like my second time ever signing up. It was. It was insane.
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A
Got a lottery ticket that day.
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I should have. Honestly, a bunch of people bought me drinks, though, which was awesome. But I. I just want to say this about the whole hate thing. You know, Joe Rogan hates that pyramid guy. The guy. I forget his name. The guy with the. The cigar and he's like, I'm a scientist, Joe. I'm a scientist. I'm not a scientist. Read my book. You have to read my book. Who was that? You know who I'm talking about.
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Yeah. What is his name?
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Joe doesn't agree with him.
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Zahi Hawass.
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I'm not gonna repeat that. Joe doesn't agree with him, and Joe hates him. Maybe not hates him, but. But doesn't like him, and it doesn't agree with him. Does that mean Joe is a miserable person, or does that mean Joe hates himself? No, I think there. It's a fine line.
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But hold on, hold on. There's a distinction to what Joe's saying. To be fair, if Joe was tweeting about it, if Joe was writing reviews about it, like, there is a bit of a difference.
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B
But he did talk about it publicly.
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A
If you're online, you know, all day keyboarding about this stuff, he's just kind of pointing out that there's a specific type of person that does that a lot. That I don't think he's saying anyone that criticizes anyone is miserable. But.
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B
Okay, that's true.
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A
There probably is a bit of a correlation between somebody that does it all day long from their keyboard anonymously. They might be slightly angry.
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B
Yeah. And then that. That brings, you know, that leads to the point of, like, is all criticism of someone online of Joe or Tony, whoever, probably shop is who we're talking about here, who Joe is referring to. But is all criticism just someone who just repeats the same comment all. I think I'd say, like, maybe 70, 30.
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A
Look, some of it's constructive for sure. Like, some of it really is. I mean, it would be interesting to, like, run that through one of the AI systems and say, scan the Internet, look at as much criticism as you can on, you know, Rogan or Brendan Schaub or whatever, and give me a percentage of what you think it could be considered constructive. And what is just hate or bias or bigotry or whatever it would be. Right. And he could source through that, and I'd be interested to see what the answer would be.
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B
Yeah, ring up Peter Thiel.
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A
Should be able to figure that out. Should be able to see, like, who is just an angry asshole or who is like, no, his show has changed. He talks too much about 50 cent AI and it's boring Many men, whatever it is, who knows?
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
But I'll tell you what, let's wrap this up. This was a great episode. I really like Ethan Hawke. I'm gonna go back over this holiday season, definitely watch a few of his movies. And, yeah, I'm. I'm pretty excited about it. It's. You know, I. I give this. This is a solid 8 out of 10 for me.
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B
8 out of 10. You know what, man? I think I'll be right there with you. Eight out of ten, maybe eight and a half. Strong eight. Light nine, potentially. This was an awesome episode. Very good. Short, too. What was it, two hours and 20 minutes?
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A
Yeah, it wasn't too long. Wasn't too long.
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B
Great episode.
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A
And. And lastly, rip Rob Reiner, sad legend. I'm gonna watch a couple of his movies over Christmas.
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B
I'll be watching Spinal Tap tonight.
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A
Great stuff. Yeah, I watched a couple of his scenes from Wolf of Wall street yesterday, and, man, he. He really pulls it out in that Legend.
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B
Legend.
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A
Really, really good, sad stuff.
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B
And.
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A
Yeah. All right, Pete, I don't know what to say. Terrible. Well, we talk to you guys next time. Thank you so much. And when is it? Christmas. We've got more episodes, but have a merry Christmas.
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B
Merry Christmas. Take care.