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Guest Singer
I got a girl I love her so madly I treat her so fine she treats you so badly and dang attitude. Happy ding, dang day.
Evan
Welcome back to Keeping It Clean podcast, brought to you by Jokerman Podcasts and Al Jardine.
Ian
There we go.
Evan
Podcast. Keeping It Clean with Al Jardine.
Ian
That's what we're doing here today.
Evan
We were, I think, pressured a little bit, and I think the pressure came from within, really, to do this.
Ian
I was all. I always wanted to do this.
Evan
When I say within, I mean, that's you. Yeah. I just didn't know if we were going to do this for a minute. I thought we weren't going to do this necessarily. But I have to say that after meeting the man, it seemed like, come on. Of course we have to honor him in this way as he has honored us with this music. That's right. I'm Evan, by the way.
Ian
I'm Ian. It's a postcard from California.
Evan
The.
Ian
The first and to date last formal solo album by our good friend Al Jardine. He has released a few other singles and ep, I think just last year, in fact, in the. In the year since. But this is the one album Al. The Al. Get that. Al the album. The Al Jardine Bum. We've done. I mean, look, we've done. We did like all of the Mike Love celebration shit. We did First Love and Country Love. We did that Bruce John, that insipid Bruce Johnston solo album. We did the Dog Shit Carl solo albums. Obviously, we did the great Dennis solo album and some additional material. It's only right that we pay it forward and we honor Al the same way that we've honored all the others so far with a formal look at a postcard from California.
Evan
Yeah, from 2010. That's right, 2010. 15 songs on this.
Ian
That's right.
Evan
I. I like this.
Ian
This is great. I'm. This is. I was thinking about it. This is closer to the best solo album to come out of the beach. It's much closer than is the worst.
Evan
And I, I think some maybe, possibly newcomers or people who miss those episodes might have just bristled at you calling the Carl Wilson solo albums dog.
Ian
I stand by it, but I, I'.
Evan
Not, I'm just not going to say anything more than what you said here. I think that they are. I think what we really came down on was that like they're, they're not quite dog. They were like the dry, desiccated. Like you can't tell if it's. If it's dog or human. You wouldn't really mind stepping in it cuz it's just like dust. Like a rock.
Ian
Petrified.
Evan
Yeah, it's past the point of being disgusting because even that would be like a feeling, you know, it's more just like. What's that? Oh, okay, yeah, whatever.
Ian
It's. It's a tough thing. But fortunately that's not what we have here on the, on the Al solo album, A Postcard from California, which we'll get to in a moment. I do there, there is a little bit of, of follow up, some, some closing. Closing the. Closing the circle. Returning to a couple points that we've talked about in the past I want to get to before we go any further. This is the first because we did our Chicago trip recently. Great time in Chicago, beautiful city. We had to bank a couple episodes before that trip and so this is the first time we're recording since that trip took place basically a week ago already. And so we didn't get to remark on one of the conversation threads that came up in the episode with Ray on that lucky old son. I don't know if you caught this in some of the comments. I just wanna make sure that we're not skating over this. There was a brief tangent in that episode about oh, what's the deal with Scott Bennett, Brian Wilson's collaborator on that record, Scott Bennett.
Evan
Oh, you wanna talk about this?
Ian
I mean, I think we should just acknowledge we didn't know at the time. We have since been informed, Scott Bennett,
Evan
that he was convicted of sexual assault
Ian
rape in the following years and summarily dismissed from the Brian Wilson orbit, never to be heard of or seen from again. So just establishing that we know now, we could put that in the box.
Evan
I don't think any of us were like, oh boy, this guy is so great. And one thing I love about him the most is that he's never raped.
Ian
Well, just wanted to get that out there. Just get that out there on the record. The Second thing, and this is maybe a little more actually worth talking about here for a moment. Bruce Johnston has been dismissed from the Beach Boys.
Evan
So is it, it's officially dismissal rather than him parting of ways? Cause I don't want to. You know, that might seem like semantics, but it's important.
Ian
I think that's the question. And there's a lot of scuttlebutt in online Beach Boys world about what exactly has happened here. I believe the way it has been framed is that Bruce has retired from touring and is stepping back to follow new pursuits. 80 year old Bruce Johnson's onto bigger and better things. Exactly. Is opening a new chapter in his life.
Evan
Hey, we of all people shouldn't be scoffing.
Ian
That's true.
Evan
No shit, right? And in fact, first of all, if it were the case that he just wanted to quit. Come on, he's very old. He's past like the typical retiring age. But on the other hand, if he does want to pursue new ventures, come out with a sequel to, what was it called? Going Public, Going Public, Going Private or Going Public Again, I would for one applaud it.
Ian
I would applaud it as well. We know he's been spotted with some of the hottest tastemakers in 21st century music over the last several years.
Evan
He's been seen with Jack Antonoff lately. Well, he's gonna.
Ian
From the Weeknd, Abel Desvey to our good friend in the pod, Ariel Pink.
Evan
But when, Where? Well, what was that?
Ian
We went over the Bruce Johnston Ariel Pink thing on.
Evan
Well, yeah. Weren't they just like at the same studio at the same time?
Ian
Yeah, they were hanging for whatever reason.
Evan
What about, what about the Weeknd? What do you mean?
Ian
He had like a credit on one of the songs on one of the Weeknd songs from the last, I don't know, five, ten years. I forget.
Evan
Hey, get out there, Bruce. Maybe he is gonn in there and get some points for, you know, making, making songs to getting credits.
Ian
He said it himself, he writes the songs. He made a whole song about how he writes the songs.
Evan
I don't even think he wrote that song.
Ian
He. No, he did write that song. He gave it to Rod Stewart.
Evan
Okay, I write the song.
Ian
He wrote that song about how he writes.
Evan
I roll the nickels, I deal the cards.
Ian
Anyways, Bruce is not in the Beach Boys anymore. And some people, you know, the official story is Bruce has stepped away and is pursuing other ventures. Many out there seem to believe that Bruce has been, has been given. Given the boot by old heir love. And there's some other guy from YouTube who's been brought into the group to replace him.
Evan
Old who love air.
Ian
Love like H E R R, you know, like Hitler. But we're not here to come down one way or another on what exactly has gone on. But I do find it a little suspect, a little suspicious that Bruce is no longer a member of the Beach Boys group. Which really does make it just Mike and occasionally John Stamos and all of these other NPCs behind him. Kind of a sad state of affairs, to be honest.
Evan
Depends on how you look at it.
Ian
Okay, well, I guess you look at it as a happy state of affairs then.
Evan
I don't know. We'll see.
Ian
We'll see.
Evan
It's so shrouded in mystery. I feel a little bit like, you know, we. It's too, too early to call.
Ian
Shrouded in misery. Yeah. Hopefully. Hopefully the tell all book will be written one day about 80 year old Bruce Johnston's dismissal. Apparent possible dismissal from the Beach Boys in 2026.
Evan
Yeah, if we're still alive by then,
Ian
we should be so lucky. I saw that guy. There's that Beach Boys fan account on Instagram, columnated Ruins Domino who posts some good pictures sometimes.
Evan
He posts great pictures. A lot of the time.
Ian
Yeah, he followed us at one point and then he unfollowed us. So I don't know what that's all about.
Evan
That's why you've sort of hedged your praise.
Ian
That's right. Anyways, he posted in he or they. I don't actually know who's behind it. Whoever's behind it is extremely secure in the belief that Bruce was fired. And they've since posted a petition, a petition to get Bruce Johnston hired into the Al Jardine and the Pet Sounds band for the Love U tour. Right now I just love the concept of like, if enough random people from Instagram sign up on a petition on a random website, then Bruce Johnston gets into Al Jardine's band.
Evan
I was thinking about how that, that would work. Like what, what if, like on the one hand, that maybe that could work. On the other it's like sort of like, hey, you're all, you know, Beach Boys, you, you all get along, right? You just put, get, move him to the other one, you know, the other one.
Ian
Exactly.
Evan
If only things were that simple, I, I would hope that we could live in a world where that's the case. But it seems, I fear anyway, as I do fear about international diplomacy these days, that things maybe are not so easy, that things can't just go, let's, you know, this thing. Let's not do that. Yeah, or let's do that thing. That's not bad. Anyway, this is also the first podcast we've recorded since war with Iran has begun.
Ian
War on Iran has begun.
Evan
Yeah. War on Iran. Yeah.
Ian
Yes. You want to be specific about that? The two, you know, the two official pedophile rapist nations just declaring summary war on an innocent people and trying to wipe them all off the face of the earth. That's, you know, neither here nor there. That's not what you come to Jokerman podcast for. You come to Jokerman podcast for a conversation about a postcard from California, Al Jardine's 2010 solo album.
Evan
Well, I have to say, just on that note, I found this album to be a welcome respite from thinking about mass death and murder.
Ian
I agree. I agree. I feel the same way. I think this is a breath of fresh air and a beautiful. To me, actually, honestly, pretty touching and relevant package of songs from Al Jardine. Because I think as we've documented on the program, as I hope I've documented on the program, I'm a bit of a California, you know, supremacist, evangelist, nostalgist in some cases. And I feel like all those spirits, all those moons moods, all those themes come through very strongly from Mr. Al Jardine on this. I was gonna say postcard, but it's not.
Evan
Well, I wouldn't necessarily praise him for being a supremacist of any kind, nor would I self apply that, but I think those other terms are good. Evangelist, fan, California, uber Alice.
Ian
Come on.
Evan
Is that. What does that mean?
Ian
California above all, California.
Evan
Very good. It's a good state. It's one of my favorites. And I think that this is a great tribute. You could say it's a love letter to the state of California or even
Ian
a postcard from that state.
Evan
A postcard with a love letter written upon it.
Ian
A loving postcard sent from California and also sent to California from California by and for Californians. That's right. Such as Al Jardine, I guess, before we talk about this album, like, what does it mean to have Al Jardine be releasing his first debut solo album in 2010? That, that, that. That concept.
Evan
I've been.
Ian
I've just been sort of tickled by that whole concept since we started listening to this album.
Evan
What does it mean?
Ian
I mean, you know, because think about some of the other solo albums, all of the other solo albums that we've talked about from the Beach Boys so far, whether it's Dennis, Carl, Mike, Bruce, even Brian. You know, they're all coming much earlier in the careers, and they're all clear attempts to, like, do something kind of establish a new lane for themselves. Whether or not those lanes are going to be successful, you know, almost all of them aren't, for one reason or another, but their attempts at, you know, kind of breaking away from the Beach Boys and striking out on their own and becoming, you know, turning a new. Maybe embarking on a new chapter in their artistic careers. And I feel like in 2010, Al Jardine is already like 70 years old and he's just now embarking on his solo career with this very simple, homespun, sweet album that is actually like full
Evan
of features and friends.
Ian
Chock full of superstars. Exactly. But, you know, to me, I just. I appreciate how there doesn't seem. This is like a guileless album to me from Al here. There's no ulterior motives, it seems. I don't think anyone in Al's camp would have imagined that this is going to be the album that rockets him to stardom or that sells 10 million copies or anything. It really feels like a for the love of the game type effort, and I dig that.
Evan
I agree. It doesn't feel like this isn't a cash grab is what it means. It. That's. That's what it means. And it does also, I think if we want to take this into the present moment that we were just talking about with Bruce, you know, it's not out of the question that Bruce could do something like this.
Ian
It isn't out of the question. That's true. It isn't really in the question either, but it's not out of it.
Evan
The existence of this, I think, is some kind of a precedent for if we did. If we were to get another Bruce Johnston solo album. I think it. The existence of this makes that feel just a little bit less implausible.
Ian
Yeah, I think that, that. I think that makes sense. I mean, I don't know that, like, I guess Bruce has never sort of evinced much of a worldview, as far as I can tell.
Evan
I mean, but what's the worldview of this? I like California. You don't need to have that big of a worldview to cobble together some songs.
Ian
I think that is a bit of a worldview. And especially coming from Al, you know, who is a notorious Big Sur personality or Central coast personality. He's lived up there for years and years. And this whole album is sort of a travelogue. About. About California, really. From San Francisco down to Los Angeles. And as you know, someone who lives in San Francisco and came from Los Angeles and drives between both very frequently. That's. I don't know. It's a rich. It's a richer text to me, I think, than I might have expected or certainly that. Than like a Bruce Johnston album, I think would be.
Evan
I don't think we need to keep talking about this hypothetical Bruce Johnson album, but I will just say that you don't. To have any kind of perspective to make an album. And so I. I still think I'm still rooting for him to do one. Even if it completely lacks perspective, even if it doesn't have a theme as robust as California. Good Place.
Ian
That's. That to me, that's. That's the most robust type of theme you need.
Evan
Honestly, there's not that many albums that do that, come to think of it. There isn't a Beach Boys album that's only about California. Except for, I guess, Brian Wilson's album about Los Angeles. That lucky old song, that lucky old Son. Yeah, I mean, LA Light album kind of alludes to it, but this is explicit. This is the California album.
Ian
That's right.
Evan
So good for. For Al, honestly, even if he wasn't like Mr. California, he has every right to. To mine that. Like for a Beach Boy to go off on their own and make a record, it's kind of elegantly simple. It's just like. Well, we haven't done one that's just about California yet. Not a whole album.
Ian
Cal Jardine out Nephornia.
Evan
Yeah.
Ian
Yeah. All right, let's talk about it.
Guest Singer
Happy Ding Dang Day.
Ian
A Postcard From California. What a nice little song here.
Evan
Very strong. First song featuring Glen Campbell.
Ian
Glen Campbell. Come on. The first of many star studded appearances that we're gonna get throughout this entire. Throughout this entire album.
Evan
Does this song sound exactly like a different song? I think it does, but I can't place which song.
Ian
There are a couple songs that sound exactly like different songs. This is not one that at least initially occurs to me. I would not at all be surprised if it does, but I don't have the specific reference point if it does.
Evan
I mean, it sounds not very unlike Margaritaville, for example.
Ian
Yeah, I think that's. I mean, it's, it's, it's in that, it's in that palette again in Margaritaville.
Evan
Whatever. Yeah, it's. Which is a good thing. I mean, I like that music.
Ian
Sure. Yeah. I think that Al, you know, he's Got he's. It's a very tasteful, tasteful set of sounds on this album. It's like it's. And when I say tasteful, I mean like in a couple different ways. One obviously in that, like. Oh yeah, this is just simple, easy pop rock music that you can put on and, you know, not think about too hard and just enjoy. That's evident, I think listening to like some of the recent Brian albums that we've listened to. Also though, like. Like the tastefulness of this album to me becomes all the more remarkable because it doesn't really have a lot of that cloying flavor that like we were talking about with Aaron, for instance, where it's got that really glossy, overly smooth tune to all hell type of sound. Like there's a naturalness, naturalism, I think, to the sound of this album that I. I find impressive coming from al Jardine circa 2010.
Evan
Yeah, I think that it feels organic. It doesn't feel overly fussed with. I agree. I like the castanets here. I like.
Ian
Castanets are great.
Evan
Glen Campbell's voice sounds kind of rugged and aged, but in a nice patinaed way. And yeah, it's not overly produced and kludgy. It just sounds like it could have been recorded in the late 70s to now.
Ian
Yeah, there's a. There's a classicism to it, I think that totally works. And I mean, look, listen. I mean, the song I'll be sending you a postcard from California. I'll be missing you each and every day. They say it's cold out here in San Francisco but the sun shines down upon the Golden Gate. You kind of know what to expect going into this type of thing. But that works. That totally works. And I think especially when you think about this album as, you know, if we want to be generous and call it a concept album or a thematic album, the concept or the theme being boy, isn't California great? Which it is. Here again, I think is a way that Al is able to write about Beach Boys shit, like classic Beach Boys type stuff without just reverting to do it again mode 100% of the time. He literally does it again several times on this album with just re recording old Beach Boy songs.
Evan
Yeah. But the ones he chooses to do
Ian
again, they fit in to the. Yeah, to the. Whatever we want to call it. Concept, theme, overall flavor.
Evan
Yeah. It's not just saluting nascar where it's like, what are the ones with the most sales? Can we. All right, let's see if those still have Any fumes left?
Ian
Yeah. What can we squeeze out of there? So I think that works. That makes sense. And it's a success. I think this. This song is a success. And we're on to the next one.
Evan
California Feeling.
Ian
There we go. Boy, I love a California.
Evan
This is sort of like Van Morrison. If you replace California with Ireland.
Ian
Ireland. Yeah.
Evan
Or Celtic anything. Celtic feeling. A postcard from Belfast looking down the Celtic coast.
Ian
Yeah, you really could just kind swap the whole thing out.
Evan
Yeah.
Ian
Celtic dreaming.
Evan
I like Celtic Feeling. I mean, California feeling.
Ian
Is there not a Van Morrison song just called Celtic Feeling?
Evan
If there's not right now at time of recording, there probably will be before too long.
Ian
Celtic Feeling. No. Yeah. I'm getting Celtic New Year. Celtic Reynolds. Celtic swing. Celtic excavation.
Evan
Yeah, yeah. Is there Celtic mystery or is that one I made up?
Ian
I'm not seeing Celtic mystery. But you know what? There might as well be.
Evan
This one's like a plaintive barbershop, sort of inflected one with yes. And you've got also some nice harmonica. It's kind of like got like a Western. Like a Western movie, kind of like out on the trail kind of feeling.
Ian
Yeah, I think it's nice because, you know, I think of a song called California Feeling. I'm thinking, oh, this is gonna be a bright, happy California girls. Let's. Let's, you know, let's boogie on the beach type thing. This kind of turns it on the head a little bit. It's got a little. Little note of. Little note of sadness and regret to it. It's a little slower, a little more plaintive. Should also be noted that this is one of several songs on this record that is a Beach Boys, like, cutting room floor song. Something that had been demoed years before. I think it was initially written all the way back in like the early 70s by Brian and our friend Stephen Kalinich and then was. Was rescued by Al here for this album. A tale as old as time. A Beach Boy just going back to a Beach Boy song scrap from 30 years earlier and re recording it for their album where they maybe didn't have enough other songs to fill it out. But I think this one totally works in slot two on this album.
Evan
It does sound and feel like it could have been on Surf's Up.
Ian
Yeah, I think it was initially written around the Holland era and then I want to say it was demoed out and sketched out for inclusion on LA Light album and, you know, wasn't ultimately included for whatever reason. I can. I kind of. I see this fitting On. On Light album, along with some of those, like, Weird Stone Dennis songs and the kind of like Shapeless Carl songs. I think it's nice. Yeah.
Evan
Looking down the coast.
Ian
Looking down the coast. How about that? Looking down the California coast. This is great.
Evan
This one. We're just. Yeah, we're just. What were you going to say? We're. We're just looking down the coast.
Ian
We're dilking down the coast. Exactly. There's. And I mean, this has got all sorts of. For. For you California heads out there. It's got a couple California references.
Evan
Sure does.
Ian
Like Greg. Greg Turkington right now, sitting at the pentas, looking down on the coastington Pentas. It's. It's in the, like, Monterey area, I believe.
Evan
I'm not familiar with the Pentis.
Ian
Pentis. P E N T E S.
Evan
See drop in your pentas.
Ian
Yeah. Actually, no, I don't know. There's other things here. Partington Cove, a Portuguese coast. Boy, you don't hear about the Portuguese so much in rock these days.
Evan
Well, just you wait because there's a bit more of them coming later in this record.
Ian
Is there more. Is there more about Portugal?
Evan
Isn't there that whole section that's like, the sea is my mistress. I'm. I'm going to like christen the heathens and like. It's about like. Well, I guess what does that. Portugal. That's the Spanish, right?
Ian
Well, I mean. Oh, you mean like. Like the conquistadors. Yeah, and such. Yeah.
Evan
So, I mean, they're not the Portuguese, you know, they're close enough, those motherfuckers, you know?
Ian
Yeah, Partington. No, but Partington Cov. Right there in Big Sur. He mentions Monterey here. It seems to be sort of like a song that's evaluating the California coast over time, over the years. There's some line about this must be Monterey. I see fire lights round the bay the Indians live this way. I must go ashore and find out if the soil is good enough to till.
Evan
That's what I'm talking about. See this part?
Ian
Okay, so that's in this song.
Evan
Okay, that is the one. Okay. Yeah. Keep reading the lyrics because.
Ian
Yeah, we'll take our treasures, trinkets too, and go ashore and inland too. The king wants it that way. We can rule the seas and spread the word of God to every heathen land. Yeah. So this literally is a song about
Evan
like, Magellan and those. Well, not literally him, but whoever.
Ian
You know, any of the folks, the fellows that were sailing up and down the California coast as the explorers and coming Ashore into this beautiful bountiful land. It's got a little bit of the Robinson Jeffers thing to it also.
Evan
Yeah.
Ian
When he's talking about.
Evan
Well, just you wait. Just you wait.
Ian
The California Condor.
Evan
A little bit of that Robinson Jeffers feeling.
Ian
We have that classic Robin Jeffers feeling.
Evan
We've got some of that in spades on a certain track here. And I say track, not song.
Ian
I like that. Just wait till. Yeah. Anyways, this is fun. This is. Again, we're talking about California. We're talking about the beach. We're talking about the coast and the history. Beach boy. Shit. But, yes, there's a concept. There's a little twist to it. There's something interesting here. It kind of reminds me of the traitor a little bit.
Evan
Exactly. Yeah. It's the same type of theme.
Ian
I like when the Beach Boys go anti imperialist. That's a fun and interesting, not so frequently traveled path for them at least.
Evan
Acknowledging imperialism is what.
Ian
Yeah, I guess this one is maybe a little less anti imperialist than the traitor is legit anti imperialist. But this one, maybe not so much. Okay. Don't fight the sea.
Evan
This one is so funny.
Ian
What is funny about it?
Evan
It just gives me, like, such a mighty wind feeling. It sounds just like the.
Ian
Don't fight the sea. Don't fight the sea. Fight the sea. You see or you hear who's singing on this song along with Al, don't you?
Evan
Who is it? It's Carl Wilson.
Ian
Carl Wilson. Dearly departed Carl Wilson. Not the first. Not. Excuse me, the first, but not the last appearance from Carl Wilson on this album.
Evan
And I see he's joined by the Folksman as well.
Ian
The Folksmen. What is that?
Evan
That's just the group from Mighty One.
Ian
Oh, okay. Yes. So this is. This is an old. This is another old 70s beach boys nugget classic, maybe, if you want to be generous with that term. That actually had been fully tracked and demoed out with a complete Carl Wilson vocal and stuff. And so they brought it. Al brought it back to. Brought it back to Postcard from California. And it's. Honestly, it mostly sounds like a Carl Wilson song to me. Like, Al is singing on this. But to me, I hear Carl's vocals first and foremost on here. I don't know how much I love that, but, like, I. It's. I guess coming from Al, it's cool.
Evan
I mean, what are you gonna. It's not like they faked it with AI. Like, he's saying this song.
Ian
Yeah, no, I know that's true. Boy, I'M looking at the. I guess this was the single. This is the record store day single tied to this record. The one single that came off this record. And you know, on Wikipedia, there's that little like, info box where it's got the like, chronology and you can click to like, what came before it and what came after it. There's the Al Jardine singles chronology. And this is the latest. But this is the most recent single from Al Jardine, don't fight the scene, 2011. The only other one that exists is from 2002. It's a song called pt cruiser.
Evan
Wow. I didn't. I didn't know about that song.
Ian
Me neither.
Evan
PT Cruiser.
Ian
Let's, let's. I've never heard it, but let's drop a little bit of that in here for the episode.
Guest Singer
PT Cruiser. Don't you know you're really looking fine. It happened on the beach down at Oceanside. Two BT Cruisers running side by side. A little surf woody there was making a scene. She was shooting the COVID of a magazine.
Evan
Is that on the streaming service?
Ian
I would doubt it. I mean, these songs have barely ever even been listened to. PT or was that like, it's from 2002. Let's see. It's gotta be like on YouTube. That shit's always on YouTube. PT Cruiser. Al Jardine. There it is. Sure enough. 9.5 thousand views. Al Jardine.
Evan
I'll listen to it later.
Ian
PT Cruiser. I just think PT Cruisers were sick.
Evan
They're a distinctive vehicle.
Ian
They sure are there. There's one in my neighborhood that's like kind of like ratty and beat up that I see on the street sometimes. And it looks like shit to me now. But I like what's cool about it or what was cool about it is like it kind of had like a 1930s flavor to it.
Evan
Yeah, it does have like an. An old time car, like transported into the 90s.
Ian
It kind of looks like the type of car, like a car you would see in Batman, the Animated Series, but
Evan
if you like, made it look like dopey.
Ian
Yeah, exactly. It's like I kind of. I admire that they went for something there. I don't think that they ultimately ended
Evan
up pulling it off. It's basically like a Beetle, but you stretched it out.
Ian
Yeah, it's more. There's. It's got more of a front to it though.
Evan
Yeah. Wow. I'm looking at the 2000 PT Cruiser. This looks pretty cool. Honestly. Look at that.
Ian
Doesn't. 2000 PT Cruiser.
Evan
That's pretty cool. Like the silver one at least in this picture, it looks cool.
Ian
It's like I can see what they're going for, but I just don't think that they got there, to be honest.
Evan
Well, I think that Al thought they did.
Ian
PT Cruiser.
Evan
What a. What a world. It was all right, so we. We're. We've not fought the sea. Don't fight the sea is just, like, the most, like, straight up. I mean, I joke. I kid that it sounds like the folksman, but we must remember, like, that Al Jardine is the folksman. Like, he. Actually. That's him, like, in his heart, and that's who he is. He's like one of those guys who's, like, in pursuit of a career doing those type of songs.
Guest Singer
Blood on the tracks Blood in the mine Brothers and sisters what a terrible time 497 went in the wrong hole now in my number 360 there's blood on the cold.
Ian
Yeah.
Guest Singer
I awoke from. I was taken to the Arctic sea
Ian
I like the part in this song. When he is transported to the Arctic and he. And he encounters a polar bear.
Evan
It's like a Disney ride.
Ian
A little bit. A little bit. I awoke from a dream and by a wind on the beam I was taken to the Arctic Sea where the great polar bear on the ice floe there she turned around and looked straight at me. She said, don't fight the sea. That's. You know, that works.
Evan
Don't fight the sea.
Ian
This is another kind of Surf's Up Y type song. I think it's a little bit later than Surf's up, but it's got some of that seventies bird brain ecology shit to it. All right, Campfire scene.
Evan
No, no, that's.
Ian
Oh, excuse me. That's right. How can I forget?
Evan
No, now we're at the real. The secret jewel, I think, of this whole thing.
Ian
Is that how we would describe it? A jewel?
Evan
Yeah, a piece of sea glass. It's the enchanting. The enchanting specimen from the tide pools of this record.
Ian
This is called Tide Pool Interlude.
Evan
And it features. And this is remarkable.
Ian
I gotta be honest. I did not clock who this was the first couple times I listened to it until I actually.
Evan
Just out of disbelief, I just like.
Ian
Of course it is him. You know, when you hear it now.
Evan
No, couldn't be anyone else.
Ian
It couldn't be anyone else. But, like, when I was hearing it initially, I was like, this has got to just be some random guy who. Because who. Who would be doing this on an Al Jardine album?
Evan
And sure enough, Jack Donaghy.
Ian
That's right, Alec Baldwin.
Alec Baldwin
The sea breeze rises up out of me. It stretches its fingers all the way to Monterey, from Big Sur and Carmel to San Onofre. Beautiful majesty moves through me majestically. The wind gathers its force. Seashores naked and rugged as sea, sculpted by wind and rain, carved out of rock and stone, dancing along the centuries. Palm trees shooting straight up into the blue sky like stilts against the landscape. I feel you breathing your warm breath upon my face, Tanning my skin coloring shades of golden brown. Sunlight upon my face, sunlight warming my soul. What is this feeling that I cannot grasp? That is hopeful? California. California, you are everything to me.
Ian
It shouldn't work. And I'm still not entirely sure that it does, but I dig it. I think for me, it totally comes off.
Evan
I think it's great. I'm powerless to say anything against it.
Ian
What am I gonna do? Sit here and say, this is shitty, or something like, this is.
Evan
It's just the sheer force of its existence is, like, way more powerful.
Ian
The spoken word. California Pion Interlude on The Al Jardine 2010 solo album, written once again by Stephen Kalinich and delivered with great gravitas by Alec Baldwin. I'm amazed by this. I'm just. I'm floored. I'm delighted. I'm tickled. Well done, Al. Three stars alone for Three stars for tidepool Inter Tide pool interlude alone I
Evan
was trying to figure out what could their connection be? And we might never know. But one thing that's for sure, their names start with the first same two letters.
Ian
They sure do. That's right. That's a great. That is a great point.
Evan
All right.
Ian
And then we get campfire scene right into California.
Evan
It kind of has like a cabanessence feeling at the very beginning. Just that little. I mean, is the scene. Is it just like those four seconds of harmonica? That's the scene?
Ian
No, it's the 44 seconds of them, like, kind of doing the echoey singing together thing with the little banjo type thing.
Evan
Yeah. So are we to imagine the piano comes in? They're like in a cave around a campfire or something.
Ian
Yeah. You know, I'm imagining. It's just like. It's sort of. It's a memory being told in, you know, through sepia tone. And so it's got a little bit of echo, a little bit of reverb on it. And it's Al and Neil and Croz singing together. I love that. Come on. That's great.
Evan
And it then goes into. Well, it's cool, clear water and Then we have, yeah, the California Saga.
Ian
Just California. The great part. The triumphant conclusion of California Saga. California, the song which is Al's star making Turn on Holland, one of my very favorite Beach Boy songs ever. And here it's Al, Neil, Cross and Stephen Stills as well, singing it together. That's fantastic. And Neil comes in in the middle and takes his own verse. Cross, I think, takes the last. This again, like I'm this. He's like. He's catering to me and like weird guys like me getting Neil Young, 70 something year old Neil Young, to sing California, this forgotten Holland song from 40 years earlier. But if you are a weird guy like me, you're gonna be delighted by this. And sure enough I am.
Evan
I just like that it seems he's sort of charged up his beam of gets, you know, of like people he can have be featured.
Ian
Al.
Evan
Yeah, like he didn't do it for a long time and now that he's ready, the world has come to meet him and to take their part in the fellowship of Al's record, calling in
Ian
all the favors on this one. He knew there wasn't going to be another one down the pike. Although honestly, Neil actually is on a song on the album that came out last year also. So I think he and Al must be tight.
Evan
I like thinking of that as like Neil and Al, as like a sort of alternate version of like Bob and George. Like there's. It's just like another kind of like these other guys that have this thing where they're like, I see you, I
Ian
get you, they're homies. I think that makes sense because Neil. Neil did live in Northern California at one point. I think he's in Southern California these days, but. But I'm sure he and Al were just like hanging, you know, drinking, smoking together for years and years.
Evan
Smoking together for years and years.
Ian
Smoking, smoking, ganja.
Evan
Yeah. I think it speaks well of Al that so many people are willing to come out of the woodwork to put this thing across.
Ian
Absolutely. He's a beloved character. I'll tell you this. Mike could never. I don't think any other Brian probably could never. With the guest stars on this album. You actually get a little bit of
Evan
this for different reasons, I think.
Ian
Yeah, probably you do get a little bit of the Brian Wilson guest star situation on no Peer Pressure, but it comes off maybe not quite so charmingly as it does.
Evan
Or like Brian is the guest on those songs.
Ian
Yeah. And I dig again the way that these Beach Boy songs are being worked into this little like personal Al Jardine trick, travelogue thing, this.
Evan
Giardiniera.
Ian
Giardiniera. Yeah. There you go. There we go. That's when we opened the Jokerman Hard Rock Cafe.
Evan
Yeah.
Ian
You're getting a hot dog with giardiniera and Italian beef.
Evan
I had one of those in Chicago.
Ian
So did I. I got one on the. That was my last meal before we split. It was delicious. That's a good sandwich.
Evan
It's a beautiful sandwich.
Ian
It is a beautiful sandwich. All right, then help Me Rhonda, you know, with Steve Miller.
Evan
Of the Steve Miller Band.
Ian
Of the Steve Miller Band, that's right. Of all people.
Evan
Well, I mean, not of all people. I mean, think about. Doesn't he do it never rains in Southern California? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Ian
No, that's. That's Albert Hammond. Very different. Albert Hammond. Father of Albert Hammond Jr. Of the fucking. The motherfucking Strokes, who I'm seeing in a couple weeks with friend of the pod, Al, Alex Cameron. Cannot wait for that show. Probably gonna rig up an instant reaction pod on that one with my dear old dad who's coming up to see that show. Can't wait for that.
Evan
Yeah, you're right. They are different. They're different people.
Ian
They are different people and they make different music. I honestly. I know the Steve Miller Band by name, but I could not tell you
Evan
a single Fly Like An Eagle.
Ian
Okay, sure. I mean, I know that song. I don't know that. That's Steve Miller. Like, what is it?
Evan
You know what his most popular song is called?
Ian
Steve Miller.
Evan
Steve Miller Band.
Ian
I know it, but why don't you. Why don't you tell the audience?
Evan
It's called the Joker.
Ian
The Joker.
Evan
Oh, okay.
Ian
I know that song. Boy, maybe we got to do the Steve Miller series.
Evan
Because I'm a joker. I'm a joker. Yeah, I'm a funny joker.
Ian
Whatever. It's a pretty unremarkable Help Me, Rhonda, but it is a reminder that Help Me, Rhonda is a great Beach Boy song that Al Jardine sang, you know?
Evan
It did, actually. I'm not even being flippant or facetious here. I think that honestly listening to it in this form, sometimes this type of scenario helps me to appreciate the song.
Ian
This is. This is your preferred version of Help Me Run.
Evan
Not saying that, but it's like. It's like adding a little water to your whiskey. Like, you gotta, like, sort of take a. Something. Sometimes you gotta add something, like a diluted version or a diluted thing to then sort of like, start to get all the notes. And honestly, like, hearing it just played again, it's like a good case, I think, for covers in general. But even for covers of, like, diminished potentially, or like lower key versions by the original person, it can just make you sort of realize, like. Like, hey, that's a really good song. Like, str. It's just solid. Like, it's still good. Even if you take something of its intensity out, the structure of it. It's inherently sound, you know, So I. I didn't mind hearing it here, if anything. I thought it's. It was nice.
Ian
I don't mind hearing. I never mind hearing it. I've always known Help Me ran it to be not just a good song, but. But one of the very best songs.
Evan
But some people would, I think, say, well, we don't need this half baked, wimpy version of Help Me Rhonda. I would say what I've just said, which is that actually it's good anyway. You take it.
Ian
Yeah, I think it fits into the context of the album. We don't need this version of Help Me Rhonda, certainly compared to the two other versions of Help Me Rhonda and probably a zillion other versions that have been covered in live albums and stuff.
Evan
But it's just for the joy of the game.
Ian
Yeah. Listen, we were on this little California getaway with our friend Al, and of course we're gonna sing Help Me Rhonda. What do you expect?
Evan
Yeah, it's one of his great accomplishments with the Beach Boys, if not signature Al Jardine moments. Yeah.
Ian
Help Me Rhonda.
Evan
And also, as we've made very clear in our appraisal of it in the past, one which really frames Al as a sexual being.
Ian
That's right. And that's. There's not that. That there's nothing wrong with that. It's valid.
Evan
I like this next song, San Simeon.
Ian
This is one of my favorites on this album. San Simeon. Fantastic song.
Evan
Just like how much of it is San San.
Ian
That's great. Come on, San. Clearly, Al just went down to Hearst Castle one day and had a great time taking the tram up with the Alex Trebek narration, taking the tour.
Evan
That happens.
Ian
You've never been to Hearst Castle.
Evan
I've been there, but I didn't realize. Just like you didn't realize that we had Alec Baldwin. I didn't realize Alex Trebek was the one.
Ian
I don't know if he still. If that is still how it goes, because of course, is no longer with us. But for years and years, it was always, you go To Hearst Castle. You get on a little tram, you drive up the hill to La Cuesta. Encantada, as they say in the song. And Alex Trebek is giving you the whole little spiel over the. It's like the Disneyland tram. You know, the little speech about the Getty one. Or the Getty one. Yeah, you pass the. Like the zoo, you know, the abandoned zoo at Hearst Castle. And it's timed so as you're passing the zoo, Trebek says, and over, over to your left are the cages where William Randolph Hearst's exotic lion collection was kept or whatever.
Evan
Yeah, that's fun.
Ian
I have fond memories of Hearst Castle.
Evan
I guess after the first time I went, I didn't think ever again that I needed to go back.
Ian
I think I've only done it twice and I did it in between without maybe a. A 7 to 10 year span in between. I think that's about the right amount of time that you should wait before you go back to her.
Evan
Yeah, I think I'm due about a decade. I could go again.
Ian
I feel like you and Ruby should hit it next time you're driving up the coast.
Evan
Yeah. You can go up there and just. I remember part of the experience is just sort of thinking to yourself, like, so this is where Charlie Chaplin got his dick sucked, I guess.
Ian
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Honestly, it's like kind of. I love all the ghosts and the spirits that clearly still haunt the grounds of Hearst Castle.
Evan
And what a cool pool.
Ian
Very charming song. Chiming, easy breezy, beautiful covergirl.
Evan
Yeah. San.
Ian
He's talking about the elephant seals and stuff.
Evan
Yeah. Make friends with the elephant seals.
Ian
Oh, I love it. Just makes me want to, like, you know, pull off and take some pictures of the ocean and then go like, pull. Yeah, like pull off the highway.
Evan
I know what you mean.
Ian
Yeah. And then go get like a not very good plate of fish tacos or something. That's a quintessential California experience to me.
Evan
Speaking of, I think this next section of the album starting here, really. Oh, here we go. You could argue that a California saga. You're already starting to drive. And then. Help me, Rhonda. You're in the car singing San Simeon. You're at San Simeon in your car. And now finally we're acknowledging the fact that we've been. We are driving.
Ian
Driving. This is a perfect song to me. This is exactly what a rock song from Al Jardine featuring Brian Wilson in 2010 should sound like. This is purely. This is peak male performance driving by Al Shardi.
Evan
Yeah, we're driving Just driving.
Ian
Just the Dad's weekend garage blues band riff in this song. Do do do do do do do do do do do. And there's zero effort or thought put into it. Beyond. Yeah, I'm driving.
Evan
Well, hey, you're not listening to the lyrics. There's a whole drama that unfolds. We're not driving, just surviving.
Ian
They. They do. They do find a clever way to give it a bit of a twist. But the. The refrain solves returning to drive. Fantastic.
Evan
We're not driving. I was like, whoa, whoa. Run it back. I thought. I thought, well, if. Anyway, the next song. Honking down the highway.
Ian
You got it. You got it. Before we go, you. You just know Brian was digging this one. You know, he was in there thinking, just like, oh, yeah, this is a great little rock. Great little rock rock number. We're driving. Doo doo doo doo doo to do.
Evan
I was really looking forward to pointing this out. I don't know if you caught it. The part about surfing.
Ian
Surfing.
Evan
Gonna surf the rock. It's got the biggest waves. Gone surfing.
Ian
Yes.
Evan
And then, clarifyingly, body surfing. This comes from Brian. We're go. Yeah, I want to go surfing. Body surfing. Not actually surfing, but I do body surf.
Ian
Texaco. You're killing me, man.
Evan
Yeah. Hey, just wait.
Ian
Al was more right than he knew with this one.
Evan
This song is very prescient.
Ian
Yeah, that's right. And then we're just honking down the gosh darn highway. This is great. I mean, look, this is fantastic.
Evan
Before we move on, I just have to. We have to point out that after he says texco. You're killing me, man. The last thing he says is, I love driving.
Ian
Driving. I'm thinking of driving the same way that I think of, like, Bob saying, bragging, driving, bragging.
Evan
Did you listen to that? This old man?
Ian
No, but I saw. I saw someone mention that before you sent it to us.
Evan
Yeah, you have to listen to that.
Ian
I gotta listen to it. Is it good? Good?
Evan
Oh, is it? Yeah.
Ian
Okay.
Evan
All right. Oh, it's good.
Ian
I'll listen to it after this. Honkin.
Evan
Yeah. Well, we mentioned this when we talked to Al in per on our podcast. Not in person, but I had to point out that we were both. We both appreciated that we got driving straight into honking.
Ian
That's right. Al said it was. What'd he say? He said it was like a little bit of method song. Like method acting on his album or something. Driving into Honkin. Which, you know, honestly. True.
Evan
Well, method would mean that you recorded this while honking and or driving.
Ian
Take it up with Al. He's the one who said it. I think it's great. And I think we maybe take for granted the fact that Honkin down the highway is a classic and a universally beloved song these days. Especially as Al is touring all across the country playing the song night after night. But pretty remarkable that again, 70 year old Al Jardine in 2010 is re recording Honkin down the highway and putting it on a postcard from California. Forward thinking.
Evan
Yeah, yeah. I mean this is very long before the critical reappraisal en masse, I think. I think it was like still pretty. It existed, but like only in like the hardest core of which is to say like anybody on a Beach Boys forum probably.
Ian
Yeah, exactly. The super nuts, you know, were aware of this and would have dug it, but like there were many fewer of them and the whole like concept of the Beach Boys as, you know, the Beach Boys are just as much of a. A meme or a fandom type thing as Bob Dylan is these days in certain corners of the Internet at least. And so none of that really existed, at least to the level that it does today. So, yeah, kudos to Al for just having fun. That's the thing. He's just having fun. And I totally love listening to someone just have a good time without any other ulterior motives. That's what we love to hear.
Evan
It is funny that it ends with that last line about I must have a way with girls.
Ian
Yeah. The way they all like kind of have the chorus come together and turn it into this big like. I don't even know what that is. It sounds like a Queen type song or something all of a sudden.
Evan
Yeah. It's like a gospel choir for.
Ian
Yeah, it's a fun way to wrap it up.
Evan
And then we go straight in. I'm glad there wasn't morbid California Dreamin'. Of course, with Glen Campbell back again
Ian
and David Cross and the Cross, the boys, the homies. It's, you know, it's California Dreamin'.
Evan
Yeah. But I will say that in a world oversaturated, probably with covers of this throughout the decades, I think this one is one that feels justified and warranted. You know, it's a responsible use of this song being pulled out.
Ian
Sure, absolutely. Like, who else do you want to sing this song?
Evan
You know, I feel like people just sing this song all over the place and it's just, you know, this is where it belongs. On a house. This is where it belongs. Track 12 of Postcard from California.
Ian
Postcard from California.
Evan
Yeah.
Ian
It is a little hard for me to even hear this song. Not like I can't bear to listen to it, but it's so sort of well trod that when I listen to it, I almost can't hear it anymore, if that makes sense. I dig what they do, but it is such a. Such a totem, such a touchstone that it's tough to even kind of get much out of it for me. But that's. That's a me problem. That's not an owl problem.
Evan
It's certainly not an owl problem.
Ian
And then we have. We have. I guess this is technically the last track on the album proper. There are a couple bonus tracks that exist on the Spotify streaming version, but the album wraps up with this very nice tender ballad from Al and I Always will.
Evan
Yeah, I like this one.
Ian
This is great. It's a very charming, like. It sort of sounds like a Disney movie song a little bit. And I'm not saying that just because we just talked about the Disney music from Brian, although I'm probably partially saying it because of that. But it's heart on sleeve. It's romantic, it's well conceived and put together. I think Al earns it.
Evan
Righteous schlock. I think this is like. It's in the same vein as like One Kind of Love by Brian. You know, I feel like this is kind of Al's One Kind of Love.
Ian
What it really reminds me of is the last song, if you remember this, on miu, which is an owl lead. He didn't write the song. But Winds of Change. Do you remember that?
Evan
Yeah, I remember liking that one.
Ian
Yeah, it's good as far as the stuff on MIU goes. But it's very kind of corny and schlocky and schmaltzy. But he sells it, you know, he makes it. He makes it come together. And I get the same exact kind of sense with. And I always will here at the end of this album. I almost would think that Al is thinking of like. Like let's do the same thing that we did at the end of Miu with Winds of Change with this song here at the end of Postcard From California.
Evan
Then we just have what?
Ian
Yeah, Waves of Love, which Al has released at least three different versions of. This is another old. I don't know if you saw this. There's Waves of Love, waves of Love 2.0 and Waves of Love 3.0, all on Spotify. This is another old Beach Boys song that has been re recorded. And there's a old Carl Wilson vocal attached to it. Interestingly, this was initially slated for inclusion on that's why God Made the Radio. Or at least Al wanted it on there. But for whatever reason, they decided not to end up putting it on that album. And so this got tacked on to Postcard from California a couple years after the fact. Weirdly, I don't know why I know all this random bullshit about this random song at the end of this album, but that's why that's there. And then there's this like pirate. Pirate themed rewrite of Sloop John B. At the very end, which, you know. Yeah, whatever.
Evan
A Pirate's Tale mix. I don't know. What. What is A Pirate's Tale?
Ian
I think it's just. It's. I mean, it's. It's. They're talking about pirates in the song. I think that's the Pirate's Tale. The Sloop John Bee gets sort of intercepted by pirates and boarded by pirates.
Evan
It's all right. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of why that was necessary.
Ian
But why not is why it's necessary.
Evan
Hold on. The 2005 children's book A Pirate's Tale, written by Alan Jardine, also comes with an accompanying cd, which we can presume includes this version. So that's that. Mystery solved. And another feather in the cap of original Beach Boy Alan Jardine. Three stars for A Postcard From California.
Ian
Yeah, sure. Honestly, Better than the Bruce album, better than the Carl albums, better than the Mike albums, better than several Brian albums. This is up there in the Beach Boys solo releases. Totally charming. Weirdly kind of experimental and conceptual in some places.
Evan
Hold your horse.
Ian
Couple just really nice songs.
Evan
Okay. Actually, no, it earns that with at least track five. That.
Ian
Come on. Between the Alec Baldwin thing and the song about the elephant seals at Hearst Castle.
Evan
That's not conceptual. That's just an ode to a great animal.
Ian
Well, the concept is California.
Evan
You're right. It's a concept. I gotta hand it to and to Al. Three stars out of three, by the way, because I, you know, sometimes people don't know that. And I. I think it's worth reminding.
Ian
People listening to the program is aware of how many stars you get. You can award.
Evan
I don't know. That's true. And what about all the people who just tuned in for this episode for the first time because they love A Postcard from California?
Ian
That's right. All of our thousands of new listeners that were drawing exclusively for the Postcard From California episode.
Evan
I don't want to even leave one of them behind. You're all part of this now.
Ian
That's. That's. That's fair. All right, good. I'm glad we did this. This was great. I don't know. This was the best episode, but I've had a great time just listening to this Al Jardine album. And I think it's only right that we honor the man Alan Jardine the same way that that we've honored all of. All of his fellow Beach Boys with a real go at his album.
Evan
Yeah, Jokerman.
Alec Baldwin
I want to read one more down and then just try to pace it up a little bit more, because I'm afraid you might have it. It might be too slow for you.
Evan
Ready?
Ian
Sounds great. Do you want water?
Alec Baldwin
No, I'm good. Thank you. I always sound like I'm choking to death.
Guest Singer
Happy Ding dang day.
This episode is a deep dive into the 2010 solo album A Postcard from California by Beach Boy Al Jardine. Hosts Evan and Ian explore the context, themes, guest appearances, and their personal appreciation for Jardine’s late-career, California-centric record. The discussion also reflects on Beach Boys’ solo ventures, the enduring legacy of the band, and the significance of California as both setting and inspiration.
This episode is both an affectionate tribute to Al Jardine and a playful, down-to-earth celebration of Beach Boys fandom. The hosts revel in obscure details, cameo appearances, and the joyously non-cynical construction of A Postcard from California. Listeners walk away with a new appreciation for Al’s contribution to California pop tradition, and for the enduring collaborative (and sometimes weird) spirit of the Beach Boys universe.