Podcast Summary: Jokermen Episode NES 035: Bob Dylan LIVE, 3/18/24
Introduction and Episode Overview
In this episode of the Jokermen Podcast, hosts Ian, Evan, and Steve delve deep into Bob Dylan's latest performances from the Rough and Rowdy Ways Tour, particularly focusing on the March 18, 2024, show at the Crown Theater in Fayetteville, North Carolina. The discussion navigates the potential conclusion of the tour, unique aspects of the Fayetteville show, and broader reflections on Dylan's enduring artistry.
Speculation on the Finality of the Tour
The conversation kicks off with speculation about whether Dylan's Rough and Rowdy Ways Tour might be his final leg. Steve notes the unusual longevity of the tour:
Steve (01:05): “Bob Dylan announcing a tour in 2021 and setting it in 2024 has anyone really explored like how weird that is?”
Ian expresses doubt about the tour's immediate conclusion, hinting at the possibility of an additional fall leg:
Ian (02:19): “I kind of feel like there's going to be one more fall leg. There's something in the back of my mind is telling me that he's not done with this quite yet.”
The Criterion Collection Release of "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid"
The hosts shift focus to the anticipated Criterion Collection release of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. They discuss the inclusion of an exclusive interview with Clinton Halen and the significance of a new cut of the film that aligns closely with Sam Peckinpah's original vision:
Ian (06:28): “There's going to be a Criterion Collection release of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, featuring as a special added bonus element, an interview, an exclusive never before seen interview with one Mr. Clinton Halen.”
Steve shares his enthusiasm for the new 4K edition and the complexities surrounding different film cuts:
Steve (08:31): “There's a Warner cut that has some more of the stuff that Peckinpah wanted. It's also not quite.”
Discussion on Drummers of the Tour
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the various drummers who have been part of Dylan's tours over the years. The hosts debate their favorites, highlighting Kenny Buttrey, Winston Watson, and newer additions like George Roselli:
Ian (19:20): “It's tough.”
Bob (24:41): “I think my picks are...more of a idiosyncratic style because I think it brings out some of Bob's idiosyncratic style as well.”
They also touch upon the evolving lineup, including the recent addition of Jimmy Vaughn, and how these changes impact the tour's sound:
Steve (25:39): “He's also going to shout out my boy, David Kemper. I think he's a great drummer.”
Highlight: Fayetteville, North Carolina Show
The Fayetteville show is hailed as a standout performance on the tour. Ian and Steve praise the roominess of the recording, the vibrant energy of the crowd, and the band's dynamic interplay:
Steve (32:01): “I feel like this is a very different version of the Rough and Rowdy Ways tour.”
Ian (32:01): “It's a pretty different version of the tour...this might be the most different version of the Rough and Rowdy Ways tour.”
Evan shares his personal connection to the performance of "To Be Alone With You," emphasizing its emotional resonance:
Evan (44:46): “I've made up my mind that he manages at this show with this...utterly transformed with the way that he plays the harp on it.”
Analysis of Specific Song Performances
The hosts provide in-depth analyses of specific live performances from the Fayetteville show, highlighting "Every Grain of Sand" and "Key West." They commend the unique arrangements and the integration of the harp, which adds a new dimension to Dylan's renditions:
Ian (43:01): “The harp work again, you know, as we've said, incredible.”
Steve (62:21): “This song, it is so beautifully played. The harmonica solos on every grain of sand.”
They also explore the stripped-down version of "Big River," discussing how Dylan's minimalist approach transforms the song's essence:
Ian (63:29): “What does he absolutely leave behind in every single version of Big River that he's been playing on this tour? The chain gang thump, the acoustic rhythm guitar.”
Integration of Harp and Evolving Setlists
A recurring theme is Dylan's incorporation of the harp into live performances. The hosts marvel at how this instrument enriches songs like "Every Grain of Sand," providing a soulful and ethereal quality:
Bob (48:23): “It's so, it's, really just. There's not a lot there. And it is what you were just saying...”
The discussion extends to how Dylan's setlists have evolved, particularly in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, leading to the inclusion of various cover songs that align with the tour's new dynamics.
Future Prospects and Closing Remarks
As the episode draws to a close, the hosts reflect on the legacy of the Rough and Rowdy Ways Tour and its impact on Dylan's illustrious career. They express hope for future performances and tease upcoming episodes, including an interview with a notable member of Dylan's touring band:
Ian (94:30): “Remind us of the magnitude of what he accomplished over the last couple years.”
Steve (95:50): “We are finally delving into the cast of the Never Ending Tour.”
The episode concludes with heartfelt praise for Dylan's enduring artistry and the exceptional performances that have defined this tour's final chapters.
Notable Quotes
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Steve (01:05): “Bob Dylan announcing a tour in 2021 and setting it in 2024 has anyone really explored like how weird that is?”
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Ian (02:19): “I kind of feel like there's going to be one more fall leg. There's something in the back of my mind is telling me that he's not done with this quite yet.”
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Evan (44:46): “I've made up my mind that he manages at this show with this...utterly transformed with the way that he plays the harp on it.”
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Ian (63:29): “What does he absolutely leave behind in every single version of Big River that he's been playing on this tour? The chain gang thump, the acoustic rhythm guitar.”
Conclusion
This episode of Jokermen offers a comprehensive and passionate exploration of Bob Dylan's Rough and Rowdy Ways Tour, spotlighting standout performances, musical evolution, and the potential closure of a monumental chapter in Dylan's career. Whether you're a long-time fan or new to Dylan's live performances, this discussion provides valuable insights into his artistry and the enduring legacy of his music.
