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A
I was aware of this record's existence, and that's about it. Like, I knew it was out there. I didn't really understand how it kind of fit into the entire piece of, you know, the puzzle of the Beach Boys. And I realized in researching this, you know, there's a good reason why that is. Because it is maybe the most confusing record that has ever existed in terms of just where it is stationed on the Beach Boys series of catalog releases. So it is Live in London. There it is. The Beach Boys Live in London came out in 1970, May 1970, in the UK, in the United Kingdom alone, exclusively. It was not released in the US now, despite it being called Live in London, released in 1970. This tape, this show was actually recorded in December 1968. And we're going to come back to that point when we see the songs that make up this show, right? That's in the UK, but there's a.
B
Reissue called Beach Boys 69 precisely in.
A
1976 in the United States, on the heels of the success of the Endless Summer and Spirit of America sets, that kind of brought the Beach Boys back into the public conscious. They went back to the vault and said, what do we have? What can we just get out there to capitalize on this stuff and sell a few more records? And this UK only live album that had been released in 1970 and was a tape of 1968, Beach Boys was then repackaged and put out as the Beach Boys 69 in 1976 in the United States alone. So, you know, your guess is as good as mine as to when we should actually be talking about this record. But I'm just going with original Release, original year, 1970. Exactly.
B
It is, it's. It's funny to me that they called it Beach Boys 69. I can only guess that people just didn't want to think about the year 1968 in the context of the Beach Boys. Like, I don't know, maybe that. I mean, that year just has such a chaotic and frightening aura, politically and socially, that it was just maybe not, not going down so smooth to the people at whatever, like, imprint, sub label, like in the UK, slash us who were dealing with this material.
A
1969, though, that was a great year for the Beach Boys, for Los Angeles, for the culture. Charles Manson, obviously, that was all two thumbs up. So we want to. We want to emphasize that point in time. Specifically.
B
I think it's just. It's more. The ecstatic truth, so to speak, is that this is, you know, the Beach Boys at the end of the 60s. So why would you call it 68 if it's, you know, you want to just capitalize on what's the closest thing to show, like where they're at. They are a quintessential 60s group and we're trying to repurpose and repackage them for the 70s and beyond. I don't know if I had covers. There's all these three. There's three of them covers too. Like design wise.
A
Yes. Very different looking covers. All equally bad, I would say, in their own ways. But if I had to guess, actually kind of hazard an explanation for why this was packaged as Beach Boys 69. When it again came out in 76 and was a Beach Boys tape from 1968. I would say it's because 2020 came out in 1969 and do it Again was kind of what amounted to a hit for the Beach Boys in that year versus 68 was it was friends and stacko tracks, which were two flapolas. And so the record company might have wanted people to think, oh, Beach Boys 1969, do it again. There's going to be some good stuff here. As opposed to here's the record with Little Bird on it. As much as we love Little Bird might not be top of everyone's mind in terms of making purchases. In any case, this is what we have. Boy. Yeah, all three covers. One is just kind of like an outtake from the 2020 photo sessions. It's kind of like very brown. Everyone's kind of being wacky in it, don't care for it. The one that exists on Spotify is this kind of baffling. It's like split 2/3, 1/3.
B
And there's.
A
There would have been on the. Right, right.
B
It should have just been the COVID I mean, if you go on the Wikipedia, there's a version from 1971. It says that it's just the Beach Boys live in London. And it's this, that photo which is actually taken apparently from their Top of the pops performance in 1970.
A
Actually in 1970, despite the show taking place in 1968.
B
In 68, I feel like we're like.
A
We'Re deliberately trying to be misled and taken down a path of mania. Just trying to keep all of this bullshit straight.
B
Yeah, it's so elusive. You're just like, yeah, it does exist, but it doesn't exist in one realm. It's just this split, odd multiverse of this one random fucking Beach Boys live album. The other cover, the like beige one with their like motion blur is just so unpleasant to look at.
A
Really bad. Really bad.
B
Really ugly.
A
I do kind of like this Beach Boys 69. One that exists with the little newspaper, you know, kind of faux clipping. Do you see that?
B
Well, this is from 76.
A
That's the 76 record that came out.
B
In the U.S. they're kind of going to this, I guess, taking some notes from like the Europe 72. Like that grateful Dead. Like the really, like, goofy airbrushed cartoon graphics on that and like yellow submarine type looking stuff.
A
I like that. It's just got a. It's got a picture of Stone. Like, it's got some pictures up, like, tacked up. It just has Stonehenge. Yeah. Like everyone's favorite, most visually arresting symbol of the United Kingdom, Stonehenge.
B
Well, it is visually arresting.
A
Well, I don't know about this version of it.
B
I like the. There's a postcard, the back of which it says, brian, wish you were here.
A
Wish you were here. Yep.
B
And then it says, Brian Wilson, 7777 Sunset, Hollywood, California, USA.
A
7777 Sunset Boulevard. Is that a real address? Let's find out.
Release Date: December 6, 2024
Podcast Title: Jokermen
Host: Jokermen
Episode Title: Teaser // The Beach Boys: LIVE IN LONDON
Description: Jokermen Podcast serves as a spirit guide to the world of Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys, delving into every song and record. Subscribers on Patreon gain ad-free access and a comprehensive back catalog of legendary artists.
The episode opens with Host A expressing a general awareness of the Beach Boys' live album titled Live in London. However, A admits to a lack of understanding regarding its place within the Beach Boys' extensive catalog.
A [00:01]: "I was aware of this record's existence, and that's about it. Like, I knew it was out there. I didn't really understand how it kind of fit into the entire piece of, you know, the puzzle of the Beach Boys."
The discussion highlights the album's enigmatic positioning in the band's discography, setting the stage for a deeper exploration.
Host A provides a concise history of the album's release:
A [00:46]: "Live in London was released in May 1970 exclusively in the United Kingdom. Interestingly, despite its title, the recordings date back to December 1968. Notably, the album didn't see a U.S. release initially."
This segment underscores the album's unique release strategy, being confined to the UK market despite showcasing a performance from the late '60s.
Transitioning to the album's reissue, Host B introduces the 1976 U.S. release titled Beach Boys 69.
B [01:16]: "Reissue called Beach Boys 69 precisely in 1976 in the United States, on the heels of the success of the Endless Summer and Spirit of America sets..."
Host A elaborates on the motivations behind the reissue:
A [01:21]: "They went back to the vault and said, what do we have? What can we just get out there to capitalize on this stuff and sell a few more records?"
The reissue appeared as a strategic move to rejuvenate the Beach Boys' presence in the U.S. market during a resurgence of interest spurred by previous successful compilations.
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the perplexing decision to name the reissue Beach Boys 69, despite the recordings being from 1968.
B [02:11]: "It is, it's funny to me that they called it Beach Boys 69. I can only guess that people just didn't want to think about the year 1968 in the context of the Beach Boys."
Host A speculates on the possible reasons:
A [02:56]: "1969, though, that was a great year for the Beach Boys, for Los Angeles, for the culture... So we want to emphasize that point in time. Specifically."
The hosts suggest that the choice of "69" aligns with a more favorable perception of the year 1969, avoiding the tumultuous associations of 1968, and leveraging the success of the Beach Boys' activities in that period.
The conversation shifts to the album's cover art, which has seen multiple iterations over the years.
A [03:09]: "I think it's just. It's more. The ecstatic truth, so to speak, is that this is, you know, the Beach Boys at the end of the 60s."
Host B critiques the different cover designs:
B [03:47]: "All equally bad, I would say, in their own ways. But if I had to guess, actually kind of hazard an explanation for why this was packaged as Beach Boys 69..."
The hosts describe the various covers as visually unappealing and inconsistent, reflecting the confusion surrounding the album's identity. Notably, one version features Henry Stone Exhibit and antiquated imagery, while another includes a postcard with the message "Brian, wish you were here."
B [07:11]: "Wish you were here. Yep."
Delving deeper, Host B provides insight into the cultural backdrop of 1969, aligning it with the Beach Boys' peak era.
B [03:09]: "It was friends and stacko tracks, which were two flapolas. And so the record company might have wanted people to think, oh, Beach Boys 1969, do it again. There's going to be some good stuff here."
The discussion touches upon the broader cultural significance of the late '60s, including references to events like the Charles Manson incident, and how these influenced the band's image and the album's reception.
Host A and B point out discrepancies in release information across different platforms and sources.
B [05:10]: "If you go on the Wikipedia, there's a version from 1971. It says that it's just the Beach Boys live in London."
There is confusion regarding the exact recording and release dates, emphasizing the album's elusive nature within the Beach Boys' catalog.
Concluding their analysis, Host A expresses a preference for one of the Beach Boys 69 cover versions, despite overall negative opinions on the album's presentation.
A [06:21]: "I do kind of like this Beach Boys 69. One that exists with the little newspaper, you know, kind of faux clipping. Do you see that?"
Host B concurs, highlighting specific visual elements like Stonehenge imagery as "visually arresting."
B [07:09]: "Well, it is visually arresting."
They wrap up by pondering the authenticity and strategic decisions behind the album's presentation, leaving listeners with a nuanced understanding of Live in London/Beach Boys 69's place in the Beach Boys' legacy.
Release History: Live in London was originally released exclusively in the UK in 1970, with recordings from December 1968. It was later reissued in the U.S. as Beach Boys 69 in 1976 to capitalize on renewed interest.
Naming Strategy: The shift from referencing 1968 to 1969 likely aimed to enhance the album's marketability by associating it with a more favorable year in the Beach Boys' history.
Cover Art Critique: Multiple, inconsistent cover designs have contributed to the album's confusing identity, with hosts expressing dissatisfaction over their aesthetic choices.
Cultural Context: The album exists within a complex historical and cultural framework, reflecting the Beach Boys' transition during a tumultuous era.
Legacy and Perception: Despite its convoluted release history, Live in London/Beach Boys 69 remains a point of intrigue for fans and scholars alike, highlighting the challenges of cataloging and marketing an iconic band's legacy.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
A [00:01]: "I was aware of this record's existence, and that's about it..."
B [01:16]: "Reissue called Beach Boys 69 precisely in 1976 in the United States..."
B [02:11]: "It is, it's funny to me that they called it Beach Boys 69..."
A [03:09]: "I think it's just. It's more. The ecstatic truth, so to speak..."
B [05:10]: "If you go on the Wikipedia, there's a version from 1971..."
A [06:21]: "I do kind of like this Beach Boys 69..."
This episode of Jokermen provides an insightful examination of Live in London/Beach Boys 69, unraveling its complicated release history, marketing strategies, and visual representations. Through thoughtful analysis and candid discussion, the hosts shed light on a perplexing chapter in the Beach Boys' storied career, making it accessible and engaging for both longtime fans and newcomers alike.