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Josh Pate's College Football Show
National Championship Prediction + END Monday Title Games & Portal Chaos
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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
Surely not. Is this calendar right, Jesse? It still says we're six days away from the national championship game. It seems like semifinals two weeks ago. It is Tuesday. It's January 13th this year of our Lord 2026. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Or does it? We will talk about that tonight. Actually we're jam packed high atop a, I don't know, fairly mild downtown Nashville, Tennessee. I'm told through sources it will not last, but this show will. It's year round college football after all. National Championship Prediction night. Am I terrified? A little bit. And I don't even have to play in the game. But Indiana has made a fool out of me a couple of times this year. Will they do it at least once more? We'll talk about it momentarily. The transfer portal continues to be ablaze. Some shady, shady actions today, not even by entering the portal, but the manner in which one enters the portal. You know the, the general rules of thumb, they're all thrown out the window. We will discuss. There are some whispers about us and espn. Yes, I do have the Internet. I've seen what's out there today. Bradley showed me. So I will talk about that towards the end of the show. And somebody pointed out in the mailbag the other day that I forgot to get to that. It seems like there's a little something off about the playoff. Like it's a little. Oh, what was the word? Anticlimactic. And you know what, I don't disagree. I have my theories as to why and of course on this show we like to come with the problem and the solution. Maybe I'll offer something up, but yeah, I see where you're going. I agree with it. So we're jam packed. We got a lot to get to. They're watching this in St. Augustine, Florida. Buffalo, New York. Conroe, Texas. Calabasas, California. Wherever you're watching, wherever you're listening, thank you. Always. Thank you. We couldn't do it without you. And make sure you are subscribed to the channel. Now I know most of you are thinking doesn't apply to me. I already am. Check and make sure. Believe it or not, there are many, many people out there, statistics show who believe they're subscribed, who are not. So it's free. Doesn't cost you anything, doesn't sign you up for anything. Just helps us out. Here we go. Last game of the season to predict. It's a big one. Immunity. Here we go. Miami, Indiana. That's our national championship game. Apparently if you didn't predict this in July, you don't know ball. I don't know. Well, we don't because we didn't predict it. It is proudly presented to you by Academy Sports and Outdoors. Academy's making the game possible. How about that down there at Hard Rock Stadium, home stadium of the Miami Hurricanes. The table is set. And either way, this is a legendary story. Now some are saying, and I'm not necessarily disagreeing, that if Indiana wins this game, it's the greatest story in the history of college football. That's for later in the show. But if Miami wins this, do you understand they're doing something that hasn't happened since I was a mere youth running around in rural Georgia and I was being taught about what Miami had been and what the U had been. And then, I mean, if you're 19, 20 years old, you got no clue what I'm talking about. You haven't seen them relevant on the national scene in your adult or adolescent life. And now they are led by a guy that for a couple of years people said couldn't get Miami to this point, you know, cause he's only a recruiter, that being Mario Cristobal. So point being, either way, no matter who wins this thing, the possibilities are endless. It's going to be a great story. Corey Heatherman, defensive coordinator from Miami, defensive coordinator under Kurt Signetti. Now, since I'm a sicko, I listen to every second of all the press conferences leading into these things. So I was at the gym the other day, I was listening to Kurt Signetti talk about Corey Heatherman. You know how sometimes a guy has coached on someone else's staff and they just give lip service, but really they couldn't care less. Kurt Signetti talked about Corey Heatherman as if it was a prodigal son but that had left him. Talked about how he had as much respect for him as any football coach that he's ever had on his staff. Now, it just so happened he had Bryant Haynes waiting in the wings to elevate, so the defense for Kurt Signetti didn't really fall off. But I'm thinking about that. I'm thinking about common opponents sometimes in playoff situations, national championship situations. We really don't have a lot of cross referencing in the NFL. You normally have it in college football, sometimes you don't. Well, not only do we have the common opponent here, it just happened. Literally, it just happened in conference championship weekend when Indiana played Ohio State and then it happened when Miami played Ohio State. 13 to 10 was the final in Indianapolis and 24 to 14 was the final in Dallas. What can Ryan Day teach us? Well, he didn't answer the phone when we called him a second ago. So he will not be joining us. Therefore, we have to dig through it, we have to parse through it ourselves and figure this thing out. So here's where my mind starts on the game. It all boiled down to the line of scrimmage. Wouldn't you know that with all these changes in college football, this game still comes down to the two teams that have been getting it done at the highest level on the line of scrimmage. And I want to fill in the blank for you for just a second because I have been saying this and people have been saying this about Indiana games pretty much all year, but especially in the playoffs, and it is blank. Has to deal with Indiana rightfully so because Indiana's been the best team in the country for a vast majority of the season. And so we, whether it be Oregon, whether it be Alabama, you're thinking to yourself on the lines of scrimmage, Bama's got to deal with Indiana, man. Oregon's going to have to deal with Indiana. Hey, Miami's got to deal with Indiana too. However, this is the first of Indiana's playoff games where I've legitimately found myself saying, but, you know, Indiana's really got to deal with them too. Them being Miami. It is a fascinating matchup. A lot of times your eyes follow the ball, which means you just watch the quarterback and you watch the tailbacks. Maybe it goes to a wide receiver or a tight end. This is as big a glue your eyes on the line of scrimmage game as you could really have in college football. And that's with a Heisman Trophy winner playing quarterback in this game. Now, we'll talk about Fernando Mendoza in just a second. But Miami's ground game has really peaked in the playoffs. And I'm not saying they were a poor man's version of themselves in the regular season, but. But Mark Fletcher is doing what you would hope he, he does. And that's playing his best football at the most important time of the year. Those offensive linemen are playing exactly how they were recruited to play and how they were developed to play and how they were taught to play. I was talking to someone about that earlier today, you know, because a lot of teams are very active in the portal. Miami's been very active in the portal. The difference is Miami's guys play with a different edge than any other team out there, including portal heavy teams. So it's not just portaling guys in. And frankly, some of these guys were recruited out of high school and developed there so there's a lot about the DNA of Miami that's authentic to Miami. I'm saying all that to say I'm very excited to see and very interested to see what kind of effect that size differential has. The physicality has. Is there a difference in physicality? Because normally it's been Indiana that's had that edge. Hey, maybe they'll have it here. I just haven't seen anyone have a physical edge on Miami. So clip that, put it in the Hype video. Do whatever you need to do. Miami's run games peaked in the playoff. They have run it for 150 or more against everyone they've played, and that included Ohio State. And that is, at last check, a top 10 run defense. And then they did it against Ole Miss. Of course, they did it on the road at A and M. And that was a game where we had tropical storm force winds and everyone knew no one was going to really throw the ball 10 or more yards down the field. I think the Penn State game is the comp here. Out of all the games that Indiana played this year, stylistically, I think the Penn State game most readily compares here. Penn State carried it 33 times for 117 yards. I think Miami's got to do better than that. I was over on FanDuel earlier, by the way. They're over under. Miami's over under rushing number in this game as of 5 o' clock today at least was 96.5 yards. So I think their number needs to be higher than that because otherwise you may end up asking Carson Beck to do more than you need to be asking him to do. Not to say Carson Beck's a weakness, but I think we've all understood what Miami's sweet spot in terms of offensive balance and play calling is. All right, that's the first thing. Like, does Miami really break through that thicker ice that is the Indiana run defense? Are they really putting up 130, 140? Are they putting up 150? Again, whole different ballgame if they do. Second thing, you can't let Fernando Mendoza settle in. Because as much as everyone was focused on the turnovers that Indiana forced against Oregon, and those were obviously game changers, I was sitting there thinking to myself, wow, this is a blowout game. However. Well, it ended up being a blowout game. However, I don't care if they didn't turn the ball over. If Mendoza's dealing the way he was against Oregon, Oregon's not beating him, but no one else is beating him either. You cannot let him get zoned in. Now, remember in the game before that, the Rose bowl game, Bama sacks him, what, two times on the opening three plays and you're thinking, oh, here we go, here we go. Bama must be bringing it a little bit differently up front and he's not rattled. And they make a couple of adjustments and they settle in and it's ball game. And they settle in against Oregon and it was ballgame and he's making these third down throws. They end up being 11 of 14. And honestly, I don't even remember where the three were. They felt surgical on third down. You can't let that happen. Now, fortunately, you got to look in the mirror if you're Miami and think to yourself, we won't like we are. These are the cats that can get after you. These are the kinds of players defensively that don't let you settle in on third down because he had more touchdowns than incompletions in a, in a semifinal playoff situation. So that's pretty terrifying. Miami is a top five sack team, which means obviously also they're going to pressure the quarterback, they're going to affect the quarterback. So your twofold hope there, if you think that you're going to get after Fernando Mendoza and maybe, I don't know, it seems so far out of left field, maybe you even force some interceptions, maybe you force turnovers, which Indiana just doesn't really do. But the approach has to be number one. You got to earn the right to rush the passer because nothing renders a pass rush more ineffective than just a bunch of third and twos and a bunch of fourth and ones. And Indiana's very good at doing that. They're very good at staying on schedule. They're so lethal on third down because it's not third and seven plus all the time. They're really good at first and 10, second five, third and two. Move the chains. And so first thing you got to do is you got to earn the right to rush the passer, which means you got to be pretty, pretty stout against the run. Like I said, Miami's got to look in the mirror. We got the number six run defense in the country. We will win early downs and then we'll get you in third down. And we're going to trust being the number 11 third down defense in the country that we're going to be able to get off the field. And if you can do that, that's wonderful. And at that point, it's game on. But Indiana, I think, kind of swings the game here like out of all the other factors and there are a million of them, but that's the number one third down offense in the country. And I'm going to use a phrase that I normally hate because it normally doesn't apply in sports, but it applies here. Indiana is the number one third down offense in the country and it's not close. Like it's not even close. There is a gap between Indiana and whoever number two. Who was number two? Jesse, do you remember Ohio State? Ohio State was good on third down this year. They are looking up a few rungs on the ladder at Indiana. So if it goes that way and then that means Mendoza settled in, you're done, you're cooked. Miami's not beating them. No one's beaten them. Which gives you all the more reason to not let them settle in. This, unlike the previous games, is a game that if you're looking at style, if you're looking at flow, this is one where I theorize Miami should want to grind it and should want to slow it down. Now, that doesn't mean Indiana is uncomfortable playing that way. They're totally comfortable playing that way. But I think in terms of style versus style, it makes a lot more sense to my for Miami to want this. Because unlike these previous games, hey, there's a reason this point spread is what it is. Indiana's favor by eight and a half. They've been the better team so far this year. They've been the better team. I thought about the Ole Miss game that you grinding the game may build the trap door under the game. And if you want to know what I mean by that, go back and watch the Ole Miss preview video because the game played out exactly how we sort of laid it out. Miami looks like they're dominating on the stat sheet, but their style of play just doesn't let them pull away. And Ole Miss is in it at the end. They ended up taking the lead. Now they lost the lead. Miami took it back. Carson Beck goes on a hero drive. And if you get that kind of Carson Beck here, you can beat Indiana too. If you get that level of physicality on the offensive line. If you don't allow 11 of 14 on third now, yeah, you can get yourself into that situation in the fourth quarter. The difference here is I don't think Miami has any business trying to run 88 plays offensively because I think their sweet spot is the kind of game where, I don't know, you run 58, 62 plays, but you lean, you lean. Indiana's not folding. I mean I've watched them plenty. Enough to know they're not folding. So you're looking to win on margins here. It's not utter domination because I just don't think that's possible with Indiana. I'm glad to watch you prove me wrong, but I don't think that's possible. But how much edge do they have? Like, if we really do get into this game a little ways, you know, let's say everyone weathers the storm. No one's up 17 to 3. Because if, if that's a different conversation. So if we get through like that early portion, it's early. Second quarter, 10, nine, eight minutes to go into the half. It's a one possession game. Either way, it's tied. What have we seen Miami able to do physically? Are we watching it and saying, hey, they're bringing it, but Indiana's giving it right back? Are we looking at it and saying, you know, this game's tied, but dude, Miami's done nothing on the ground. Carson Beck's made some really tight window throws on third down, but they can't keep living like this. Or is it a situation where boy, Mark Fletcher's already got 68 yards on the ground, he keeps falling forward. That Miami offensive line is getting a push. That size differential really is mattering. Unlike their previous games, Indiana can't just sit in a too high shell and still stop the run with four. They're having to commit numbers to the box. Malachi, Tony is making plays on the outside and it's a tie game. But I feel good about Miami's chances. I'm really, really curious about what version of that story we're telling. It could be that we're telling none of those. And Indiana's just up big again because they're really good at breaking that dam. They're really good at water pressure here, water pressure there. Oh, there's your crack. Start kicking over there and they start kicking and it breaks. That can absolutely happen here. That's not a fun preview, though. So we don't normally preview games we think are going to be blowouts. We don't think this one's going to be a blowout. Situationals are everything. Indiana, I think, by a mile, has been the best situationally aware team, the most fundamentally sound team. They have been. They have been the excellence of execution. Who was that, Jesse? Bret Hart? Yeah. Best there is. Best there was. And besides Shawn Michaels, the best there ever will be. So Indiana's critical mistakes would shock me most. Think about all the stuff that would shock you. In this game, not aside from the scoreboard itself. What are some things I'll be interested to see the comments section on this actually. What are the things that would shock you the most about this game? Because to me, by a mile, the thing happening that would shock me the most is several critical mistakes by Indiana. It wouldn't shock me if Miami won. It would shock me if Miami won because of self inflicted and because of penalties and because of being minus two turnovers, you know, botched snaps, a bunch of procedural issues, just guys not handling the moment. If Indiana was victim of that, that would genuinely shock me because every opportunity they've had to suffer that Big Ten championship game, Rose bowl last week, the spots keep getting bigger and bigger. They keep getting favored by more and more and they don't flinch. They look the exact same. In fact, I would argue they've played their best ball. I would say about Fernando Mendoza, who kind of embodies this, think about how significant what I'm about to say is he went and played good enough to win the Heisman Trophy, rightfully so. And then he's gotten better since he won the Heisman Trophy because I think he's played his best football in the playoffs. So it would shock me if that was why Miami ended up winning this game. They're second in penalties in the country. They're number one in turnover margin. So the one thing that sometimes creeps into play here is each game has a history and a life of its own. Each play in a game, each has a history and a life of its own. Sorry. Yes, I will grant you because we see it all the time. You look at someone's stat profile, like I just said about Indiana, boy, they're number two in the country in penalties. Well, if you have six of them, doesn't really matter what you did during the season in that 60 minute span, you were penalized. It doesn't matter if you're number one in turnover margin in the country. If, if you are minus 1 or minus 2, you lost the turnover battle that day. So a season is not a game. A game's just four quarters a game, 60 minutes. And then I also ask about sort of the variables here. I don't doubt I'm going to get pretty high level play from Fernando Mendoza. And if I don't, I think it'll be because Miami's defensive front somehow wrecked the game as much as Fernando Mendoza controls. Let me put it this way. I trust him. I trust that dude implicitly. Carson Beck. There's some. If there's some if it may sound disrespectful, whatever. I'm going to pick the game in a second. If I get that fourth quarter, Ole Miss, Carson Beck, for that matter, go back to the first of the season. If I get Notre Dame Carson back, I'm comfortable that Miami can win this game or I'm very comfortable they can give themselves a shot in the fourth quarter. And that's. That's all you can ask for here. Miami's best is good enough to win this. Indiana has consistently shown their best. So my question basically boils down to am I going to get Miami's best? Because I think a lot of people out there have questions of whose best can beat the other. I think Miami's best can win this. I just think Indiana is so good at forcing you to not play your best that they've continued to win games. Let's take a look at what the model thinks. There is differential here from what FanDuel has. FanDuel has Indiana minus eight and a half. Model only has Indiana minus five. I flipped two times, I think. Yes, I flipped two times on this game. Three times actually. So. So I was on something. Went the other way. Went the other way. Now I'm back this way. I think Miami's going to play their best game. So I'm going to ride that hunch that their best is good enough on the line of scrimmage, that Carson Beck situationally is good enough and that the kind of heat they can put on Indiana can force enough mistakes to where they take advantage of some. Now, I don't expect a flawless game from Miami either. I think it's unrealistic to expect to play that way against Indiana. I think they can walk the tightrope in this game because they don't have to do it for a season. They are within 4/4 reach of a national championship. So is Indiana. I think Miami's best is going to be just good enough to not only take them plus the 8.5, I'll take Miami to win outright and Miami wins the national championship in their own building. I don't think a whole lot of people are tailing me on that one, but that's okay. We'll be down there courtesy of Quick trip. We're going down there. In fact, I informed an esteemed member of our staff just moments ago, Prez, who regularly joins us on our Fall Don't Lie tour trips, that he is coming with us to the national championship game. Big news for Prez. Give it up for Prez. However, I Have to make a pit stop in Alabama on Sunday for a family reunion. And since Perez is traveling with us, Prez is also coming to the family reunion. Which we need to tell. We need to tell my sister that. By the way, Jesse, remember that we got to add a plus one so Prez can have a plate. They need to bring enough food. So, yes, Kwik trip not only fueling the Fall Don't Lie tour, they are now on the hook for fueling us to our family reunion. Looking forward to seeing Aunt Winnie and the crew. And then we'll be down in Miami Monday for the national championship game. Hey, look, I just encountered a metric ton of Indiana fans in Atlanta. They were the most good natured people in the world. Probably way nicer than they should have been. Because I've picked against Indiana a few times this year. I won't spoil the ending for you. Yes, I will. They've proven me wrong every time. They may very well do it again Monday night. I just hope, I trust, I pray that you guys have the same kind of attitude towards me Tuesday on the Tuesday show. If you do so happen to win this game as you did the other night in Atlanta. Because they let me off the hook. They let me off the hook and I may need to be let off the hook once more. So if I could just. If I could just have one more little card of equity in the back pocket of Indiana. I may need to call on you a week from tonight.
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Julian Edelman
This is Julian Edelman from Games With Names. Now let's get into the serious stuff. We're talking football food, specifically Daisy French onion dip.
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Odoo Representative
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Julian Edelman
Gotta try these delicious new dips from Daisy. These are so delicious. They're like homemade dips made with real herb and spices and other ingredients you'll find in your kitchen. Also made with some Daisy sour cream. Daisy sour cream is a long standing staple for Taco Tuesday.
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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
You know what I do when I.
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Odoo Representative
Get my street burrito?
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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
I get the squirt Daisy.
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Odoo Representative
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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
And every bite. I know you.
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Julian Edelman
I'm a huge sour cream guy. I love sour cream. So I think burritos can't live without sour cream.
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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
I completely agree with that.
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Julian Edelman
They also have daisy ranch dip. I love ranch dip.
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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
That's great.
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Julian Edelman
I love it with crackers, wings, plain potato chip, the ones with the little crinkles, maybe some bell peppers. So get out there and give Daisy French onion dip a try. You will not regret it.
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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
Let'S continue. Look at this. Look at these names. The Transfer Portal what Else on fire. Now lsu, things have turned for the better down in Baton Rouge. LSU has landed Sam Levitt. Herculean effort by Lane Kiffin. Very rarely does a guy leave your campus and then you just chase him. Lane Kiffin chased him. Good for Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin landed his quarterback. 62195. Now I assume sometimes I take for granted everyone just blindly remembers who all these guys are. Like Sam Levitt, pretty big deal, was at Arizona State, led him to the Big 12 championship a year ago, led him to the playoff, had an up and down season this past year. He was hurt, but he's a former Big 12 offensive freshman of the year. And now he is the presumed starting quarterback for Lane Kiffin. And think about the guys he's developed under. So he's gotten to play under Kenny Dillingham and Marcus Arroyo, please don't forget that name out at Arizona State. And now he's going to be playing under Lane Kiffin and Charlie Weiss Jr. Down at LSU. So by the time he goes to the NFL, he will have played for some pretty high level quarterback development names. We'll see how it goes. Certainly he's not going to have to do it all by himself. I'm not suggesting he did at Arizona State either. But they're going to have to have some weapons around him. Year one, Lane Kiffin got the quarterback domino figured out. I assume judging by the latest work from young Pete Nakos. He's not young anymore, but Pete nakos over at On3. I assume that LSU is probably in the market for a backup quarterback. I'll just trust Shay Dixon to text me when that's done. Oregon's making moves. There's not enough room on the piece of paper. Actually, Oregon's taken three top 100 guys. Dylan Raiola. I don't think this was official last time I talked to you, which was 48 hours ago, but Dylan Raiola is now official. He has signed with Oregon. Now, I saw a lot of reaction out there as soon as Dylan Raiola signed and that went official. That, oh, that must mean Dante Moore is going to the draft. I can't emphasize this enough. No one knows what Dante Moore is going to do. The mock drafts have him in the top five, but no one knows what he's going to do. So it looks like Dylan Riola is comfortable with that no matter what. And remember, Dante Moore did this. Dante Moore transferred from UCLA to Oregon. And everyone's like, you know, we already got a starting quarterback here. And he's like, that's Fine. I need to sit anyway. There are some people in Dylan Raiola's camp that would be totally okay with him sitting for a year if it means sitting behind Dylan or if it means sitting behind Dante Moore. So don't know what's going to happen there. But at the very least they got the fail safe button in Dylan Raiola. That's not all. Coy Parich has committed there and signed. Doesn't matter if you just commit. We got to get guys signed. That is a big time safety backfill there because they're losing a big one to the NFL. And so they got him, he's from Minnesota. And Andrew Olisch is a Penn State tight end and the style of player he is is very, very conducive to the kind of tight end that they utilize in Oregon system. Now everyone's going to be asking, well, who's the next Sadiq? Who is that? Look, I don't know if there is another one out there, but like a more streamlined pass catching tight end, that's what you're getting in Andrew Olis. So Dan Land is making moves. Of course they are. Imagine that existence now, the trade off is you get paid what, eight figures. So you know they compensate you handsomely. But you get your heart ripped out in the Peach bowl and then you fly across the country for like the 19th time in the playoff and then you got to get right to work on the portal retaining your roster and they haven't like some of those guys have left and you're. You've got visits coming in. Just sleep in February at some point. Notre Dame. All right, so the other night, Notre Dame, when we did the show Sunday, they hadn't taken anybody in the Portal. That has changed. Keon Keighley, I think he was formally committed to Notre Dame and then he decommitted and went to Alabama. He didn't make much noise for a couple of years. Made some noise this year, situational pass rusher type. He went in the Portal. He's going to Notre Dame now. And they've taken four on defense and two on offense, which stats and info tells me adds up to half a dozen players that they've taken since the other night. So they got Keon Keighley, friend of the program, by the way. Keon Keighley, love that dude. Quincy Porter, wide receiver, Ohio State, number 19 overall player in the portal. He was a five star coming out of high school. I don't know, I mean, I guess the loss of Brian Hartline matters here. Yeah, feels that way. Also, about an hour or two ago, Mylon Graham, another wide receiver from Ohio State, also commits up there. Look, it doesn't look like they're done. Doesn't look like they're done. What is a joke are some of the off the field stories about Marcus Freeman lately up in South Bend. If you don't know, don't waste your time. It's nothing. And the people responsible are also nothing. But as far as the portal, there's a lot of something happening there right now. Jordan Seaton. Jordan Seaton. All right, here's the good news about Jordan Seaton. He's a really, really talented offensive tackle. That's the good news. The bad news for Colorado is he's going in the transfer portal. He is the number seven overall player in the portal. I want to pause for just a second. Certainly, I'm not speaking about any one individual here, but rather collectively, every one of you out there who is considering going in the portal, anyone out there who is considering making any kind of an announcement that you're leaving anywhere, my humble advice to you is do not commission the creative media department inside the building you're about to leave to edit a video for you under the auspices of you staying, only to then leverage that video and utilize it to announce your departure. Not the best. Look, can we all agree to that? Yes. We're all okay. Head nods everywhere. All right, Texas involved, Oregon involved, Ole Miss involved. Lsu, Miami, the usual suspects. He's a great. He can be a great player. He can be a great player. Remember, this is a guy that Deion in Colorado took and just basically announced. I know he's a senior in high school. He's going to start for us, and he did. And he'll probably be a plug and play tackle wherever he goes. What is Miami's move at quarterback? I imagine somehow, somewhere out there, someone is new to college football and they've just been scrolling through YouTube and the algorithm's doing its job, and it just put our show in front of you tonight. But you don't know a lot about college football, but you're thinking, I want to get to know college football. I'm going to ask you to ignore the next two minutes as we talk about how screwed up our calendar is. Have you muted. Okay, you've muted our calendar. So screwed up, we have Miami on one hand, six days away from playing for a national championship, and on the other hand, like, the subplot of all this is, you know, they don't have very long to figure out who their quarterback's going to be next year. Where are they going to go in the portal? Reportedly, they went very hard after Ty Simpson. I mean, a huge offer, over 6 million per year. It would be one year over $6 million, reportedly for Ty Simpson to say nevermind to the NFL and to go to Miami. It doesn't sound like Ty Simpson's taking them up on that. So Ty Simpson off to the NFL. And I'm not totally sure where Miami's going at quarterback. Now, I assume knowing the 25 hour days that Dennis Smith and the crew are working down there, I assume they have sort of like a floor option, which is very, I don't know, like a derogatory term to use for actual people. But when I say floor option, I mean like picture. I got a lot of seniors in high school. I got a lot of sophomores in college right now. And you guys are out there in the dating scene. Most of you have in your mind, okay, if worst comes to worst, she'd say yes. Well, likewise in the quarterback portal world, yes, they're the guys you really dream of. And then, yes, they're the backup candidates. But all the while, you know, okay, if it all falls through, we know we got him. Who is he? I don't know. I don't immerse myself in this stuff, but I don't know. But I'm wondering that because right now, I just don't know. Maybe I'm wrong about Emory Jones. Maybe I am, but I don't know that Miami's quarterback of 2026 is on the roster right now. I kind of say the same thing about Tennessee, only Tennessee's got more promising guys that are already on campus than Miami does. So I know it sounds great that you're in the national championship and it is next week, but there also is a pressing issue at quarterback that you can't put off. All right, now, those of you who are new to college football, welcome back. Everything's great, guys. Everything's wonderful. Nothing is wrong whatsoever. Calendar's fine, sports fine. It's all fine. They're watching us in Joplin, Missouri. Denver, Colorado, Austell, Georgia. Great rail fanning to be had in Austell, Georgia, as I'm told. Let me see. I didn't bring my lip balm. I know. Oh, hold on, Jesse. I don't need to use yours. I found it. Okay, we're good. So the mailbag was overflowing the other night. There's a whale breach. So we decided to bring some of the overflow from the mailbag on tonight's. Show. I got better reviews on the mailbag portion of the show the other night than the part of the show that we actually formatted. So maybe we just need to be a mailbag show. Weston hit us up from Santa Claus, Indiana, which is a real place, he said. Where does Indiana and Kurt Signetti rank for the best sports stories of all time? All right, Weston, I'm going to do you a favor and I'm going to say let's assume they win the national championship Monday night. For the sake of the answer to this question, let's assume they win the championship Monday. I'd call it the best college football story in my life. Now I'm trying to think. I'm pausing. This is a live show, so I'm thinking through it as I was looking at the question. It's certainly subjective, however you define best. Like, I would guess most Notre Dame fans aren't going to be in love with this story. Maybe Purdue fans don't actually love it all that much. It doesn't fill your heart with the warm fuzzies. But I grew up in Harris County, Georgia, so Indiana football meant nothing to me. Growing up, Indiana football was the team that the other Big Ten teams hoped was on the schedule so that they could guarantee at least one W in conference play. And now they are the eight and a half point favorite in someone else's building to win the national championship. And if they do it and come from out of nowhere en route to doing it, yeah, that's, that's an incredible story and it's a great story. They never were like some of these teams at one time at least, were. Indiana never was. And I love the impact that it would have, should have on the sport. Because if I'm thinking about it from, from an Indiana fan's perspective, I don't need to tell you why it would be significant to you. By the way, like, how, how long is the hangover for an Indiana fan? Like, you're just living in Fort Wayne up there and you win a national championship. Do you even pay attention to spring practice? Like, are you even back by Big Ten media days? How long does it last? The limit does not exist. But I'm thinking outside of Indiana, just sitting here in Nashville, looking at the sport from 50,000ft, I'm thinking about the impact that it could have on the sport because it's a lot of good, a lot of really good impact that it has on the sport. All due respect, if at Pate State we just go load up on Portal mercenaries and we Win a national championship. Yeah, it's great for us, but not, not a great impact on the sport. But if Indiana wins a national championship, I think about the numerous benefits that it has on the sport because at any given point, a majority of the sport feels like they're chasing something or someone, like they're trying to emulate something or someone. If I can get a majority of the sport trying to emulate what Kurt Signetti just did, it's, it's all for the good. It's all for the greater good. Because if you guys are starting to value the principles and the belief system and the evaluation and development system in Indiana, if you're valuing retention of roster and then supplementation via the portal, if you're valuing process oriented approaches, if you're not yelling about disrespect every other minute as being your primary source of fuel, yeah, sign me up for that. I'm all in for that. Also, here's another bit of good news. Imagine how this changes coaching searches, and this has already happened. It doesn't matter if Indiana wins or if they lose by 30 Monday night, Kurt Signetti has fundamentally changed the way coaching searches operate. Because for a long time, up until five minutes ago, it was so incestuous. It was pond water. It was the same group of candidates for every job. And to an extent, it still is that way. But I guarantee you in future coaching searches, you've got someone smart enough in the room to say, guys, I'm looking at this piece of paper here and it's the same five names. And I just want to know, do you think Kurt Signetti was on any of these lists that get passed around a few years ago? Answer no, he was not. That's why he was available for Indiana to go higher. Where at James Madison. Where before that? Elon. Why was he available? Because he was a candidate that was a little off the beaten path. But that doesn't mean that he wasn't qualified. It just meant someone had to shine a light in the proper direction. But that takes, it takes, it takes a little intestinal fortitude and it also takes vision, which most people are scared to have. It's a very, very copycat business when it comes to being an athletic director and making hiring decisions. You go the safe route. You go the route that the donors nod their head to because, hey, if it doesn't work out, it's not on me. I can just look at him and say, well, you guys wanted that guy just as much as I did. Indiana didn't take that approach. And they hired Kurt Signetti and now they're the beneficiaries of that. I don't need you to go find the next Kurt Signetti. I just need you to consider more candidates in these coaching searches, cast a little wider net. And I think Kurt Signetti will have a very, very positive effect on the way coaching searches operate in the future. And I still get the sense that this is so new that people are refusing to believe it's this easy now. They work their tails off there. So I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that making it happen has been easy. I'm saying the approach is pretty easy to figure out. The nuance, the layers, that's different. But the approach itself. Kurt Signitti is not even bashful about talking about. And I recognize that I've heard successful people talk like this their whole lives. Kurt Signetti is just the latest one. They're not bashful or hesitant to share their process because they're not worried about you duplicating it. Because it's no great mystery. It's not like proprietary data that they own that no one else owns. It's not like these top secret ingredients that they house at Indiana that no one else does. They're just basic success principles. It's just that high achievers know how hard it is to put them in practice and to get a building full of people, an entire organization full of people, including young people, to buy into the principles and values of the organization that they don't trust that most people can pull it off. They pulled it off. Kurt Signetti's pulled it off. And yet it gets labeled as Coach Speak. You watch and see people still chuckle at him. You listen to Signetti. He barely breaks a smile when people ask him about it because it's not funny to him. But people listen to it and there's like, hey, what's the secret to your success? We're just about discipline and we're about being process oriented. We're about defining the goal and then putting it to the side and focusing on the process that it takes to achieve the goal. We're about each play like it has a history and a life of its own. We're about reinforcing the values and principles of the organization and recruiting people and hiring people that reflect those values. People think that's coach speak. They chuckle when he says it. And he just kind of looks back blankly as if to say, do you think I'm joking? Like, what are you laughing at? I'm not joking. People think There has to be more. There has to be more. The more is in putting it in practice. But the values, he could probably write them bullet points on a piece of paper in two minutes, and he could hold it up in your face and say, here, I got the formula. I've got our formula for success here. And people would look at it and say, okay, yeah, but where's the real formula? And that very reaction is why most are not capable of achieving what Kurt Signetti is achieving right now and what any other high achiever succeeds at achieving in their life. It's not about the plan. It's about the action. And I just. I don't know that many other people are going to be able to pull this off. So if the byproduct of them making this run, that more people attempt to pull it off in the manner in which and in the approach in which Kurt Signetti has pulled it off, I'm all for it. So in that sense, yeah, I'd say it's the best college football story of my life. Seatgeek Is what you doing, Jesse? What? Oh, you want me to read that? It's fine, okay? It's fine. It's not a crisis. It's our show. We can just go back and cut it out. Oh, we're live, pal. We're live. No, we can't. It's okay. For the sake of the VOD cut. Bradley, none of this ever happened. But if you're watching live, if you're watching the full show, it's happening. Someone else hit us up about Indiana, and they said, hey, cut and dry. Is Indiana better than 2019 LSU? I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. Are we going to do this until the end of time? Like, is this a prerequisite every time you make a national championship game if you win the title? We just got to Compare you to 2019. I was watching Nacos shoot. Papa shot out in the office earlier today. He sunk three in a row. I think the desk printed a headline. Is nacos better than 2019 LSU? It's like, anytime you do anything good in life, are you better than 2019 LSU? I don't care, is my answer. I just don't care. Here's what I do know. If Indiana wins the national championship this year, it means they were better than Everybody else in 2025 season. Is that that thorough enough? All right. Now we can move on. At long last, I can inform you that if you're going to the national championship game, you must Be rich. So congratulations on the wealth. You can keep some of it, because I'm going to get you $100 off any order of national championship tickets down there in Hard Rock Stadium if you go to SeatGeek. Now, if you just buy them from a scalper on Biscayne Boulevard, I got nothing for you. Good luck. Hope they're real. But if you buy them from SeatGeek right before you check out, last thing you do, you go into that promo code bar, and you type in p a t e1,00, translated to pate 100. And that'll get you $100 off your order. Can't get you, like, $3,500 off your order, but I can get you $100 off your order. Seatgeek. Now, look, you can go there. You might take us to a lot of stuff. I just happen to know if you're watching the show at this point, probably the sporting event you're most likely to be shopping for Right now on SeatGeek is the national championship game. But I look forward to seeing you guys down there. And like I said the other day, I know. I know it's pricey. You just got to ask yourself, I'm not trying to make your decisions in life for you. I'm just asking yourself. And maybe to an extent, SeatGeek is asking through me to you. But I would give you this advice either way. Are you about fun or are you about memories? Because we're purchasing a memory here. You guys go down there and you win the national championship, don't really care who it is. That is a memory that lasts a lifetime. Is it going to cost you a couple of thousand bucks? Looks that way. Minus $100 with Pate 100 promo code. But that memory in the year 2056, it's going to be really fun to share. Going to be really fun to share. Take a few pictures and then put the cell phone down. By the way, soak it in. I promise you, I got it on good authority ESPN is going to broadcast this game, and the replay will live forever. And those shots, all due respect to those of you in section 324, are going to be better than anything you get on your iPhone. Put the phone down and soak in the memory that you paid so much money for. But not quite as much as you would have paid without. Paid 100. All right, let's move on. Boy, oh, boy, did this hit home. Because I've been. I've been on a little rant about this all day. Ethan, just in time from Greensville, South Carolina, said, why are the playoffs so long? It feels like it's just dragging to an anticlimactic end on Monday, Ethan, I feel this. I felt it last year. We were in Atlanta for the national title game last year. It was the same Monday it always is. And I remember we were walking out of the Weston Peachtree Plaza, downtown Atlanta. We were waiting for our ride, and I said, does it feel like a national championship Monday to you guys? And that's with Ohio State and Notre Dame in town. And I just remember thinking to myself, that word right there that you used, anticlimactic. That was the word I used. And it's pretty obviously because the thing drags out a month longer, nearly a month longer than it should. Well over half a month longer than it should now. It doesn't devastate me because anyone who's watched the show for a long time knows the regular season's my super bowl in college football. The playoffs, just whatever. I mean, I go to the games, I watch them, I'm glued to them. I cheer for whoever wins the national championship. But this stuff doesn't bother me nearly to the degree that it bothers most people. But I get why it bothers most of you. And you're right. Yeah, it is anticlimactic. The season's got to be fixed. Like, the schedule's got to be fixed. It's easy to say. It's harder to do. That doesn't need to be a deterrent. Just because right fixes are difficult doesn't mean you look at him and say, oh, well, it means you get the right people in the room. I have a strong working theory right now and have for a while that the right people aren't in charge of college football. That's pretty obvious. I think that's a broadly shared consensus, but specifically on this issue, it's like, not enough people run college football like their lives depend on it. Now, in reality, I don't want your life depending on college football, but I certainly want you to make decisions like your life depends on college football. Right now, the decision makers treat college football like as a rental car. Like, I don't really care what state this thing's in five years from now, it won't be in my possession five years from now. And whether it be one of, like, 10 different compartments that decisions have to be made in, in college football, that's how the decisions get made. Should we expand the playoff to 24? Why not? Oh, but won't it have a detrimental impact on the regular season, who cares? I won't be here in five or 10 years. That's kind of the attitude. And with this right here, when should we have the title game? Oh, let's, let's put it on Martin Luther King Jr. Day on Monday, third week in January. Isn't that stretching it a little too far? Immunity, they would ask, who cares? I won't be here by the time it bites us. Got to get those people out of the room and got to get people in the room that when you tell them the fix is going to be hard, they just roll up their sleeves. Or in an ideal world, they're not wearing sleeves to begin with. We need some short sleeve wearers in the room right now. We need some folks not scared to show forearm in January, hopefully not the third week of January, but in January to get the job done. College football in my dream world would crown a national champion on January 1, New Year's Day. Now that's my dream world. And that means starting the playoff the first week in December. If you've got to have four rounds of playoff, which you don't have to have for me, but if you've got to have the structure we have right now, or if you guys insist on expanding the 16 and no more, start the thing on the first Saturday or first weekend in December so that we can crown the national champion on January 1st. But Josh, we can't do that. Say what? You can't do that. Have you even tried to do that? I had a conversation with someone about this the other day and they said, well, of course, you know that college football can't have its national championship that early in January because that means their broadcast windows would have to run up against the NFL. And just. I gasped. I lost my breath for a second. You know how terrified I am of the NFL. Oh, wait, I don't care. I don't care. Neither should you. And in the college football world, hey, I get it. If you run a major network, if you're a conference commissioner, if you're a university president, and this is, this is your main lifeblood financially is those playoff checks. I understand. I'm a realist. I get that. You can't just be going head to head with the NFL with playoff games. So either get creative or negotiate with them. I've always had that feeling on this show. Now I'm college football first, second, third, fourth and fifth. Okay, so I'm admittedly coming at it from a slanted angle, but I think I'm right on this. I Think a water polo fan would agree with me. The NFL has no farm system. They don't need a farm system. What does a farm system exist for? Well, exists for development, but the NFL doesn't need to develop its players. College football does that job for them. And by the time they show up for the draft, they're mostly developed. And then you kind of got to put the topping on them, but they're mostly developed. Oh, by the way, you don't really watch many guys walk across that draft stage on draft night and ask, who is that? Why is that? Because they've developed their brand and their identity on the college football dime as well. So you've got physical and brand development twofold that take place for the NFL courtesy of college football, free of charge. NFL doesn't have to invest a dime in it. So they benefit greatly from college football. What I would love to do is I would love to find the kind of person with the right relationships, know how and testicular fortitude to walk into a room on Park Avenue and present that argument. And then when the NFL says, what are you telling us this for? Look at them and say, cause I need something from you. I need you to work with me on broadcast windows and specifically on your wild card weekend that Saturday, instead of going mid afternoon primetime, I would love for you guys to go early afternoon mid afternoon as a double NFL playoff game lead in to a primetime national championship game on that Saturday night. That's what I'd enjoy. That's what I'd appreciate. I made that argument the other day. I asked, has it even been attempted? No. You want to know the reason? Who would attempt it? What's the tip of the spear in college football right now? Like, who's driving the bus? Nobody. Bus is moving, but we don't know who's driving it. So, you know, if we could get that national championship game done, it should have been done two or three weeks ago. If we could get that thing done, then we could also have the portal if we insist on keeping this thing the way it is open after the national championship game, where we don't have a handful of teams playing the most important games of their seasons overlapping with arguably the most important talent acquisition period of their year. So that's why I'd love for it to be Ethan. Yes, it does drag out too long. Yes, it does lead to a little bit of. What is this word? Anticlimacticism. Close within an iron. Iron. Yeah, I agree. Okay, I've got great news. We're going to continue the Show, I got great news. I've been meaning to share this with you for, like, a week and a half, and Jesse keeps forgetting to tell me. So back in, I think, October, in the middle of the season, I presented a concept to you called the Magnolia Foundation. And I said that for the first time, we were partnering with a charity on the show. Matt Collins is the guy who runs Magnolia Foundation. Matt's been a longtime friend of the show. Lives in nearby Cookeville. Believe he lives over in Cookeville. It's close to Nashville. So I told you the story. I'll very briefly tell you the story about how we came to know each other. So back when I first moved to Nashville in 2020, about two months into me living here, March 3rd of 2020, I remember the night very vividly. We had an EF4 tornado come through northern Nashville. It crosses the river. It stays on the ground for a long time. Ended up killing 23 people. Matt's little girl was one of those 23 that got killed. And they dealt with the unimaginable mental and also financial toll that that takes on you, an emotional toll. And they looked at it as a family and said, this is horrific. And we're having to deal with this. But that means at any given time, many families in a country as big as the United States are dealing with losing a child. So Matt watches the show. So over time, I would mention that my building got hit in that tornado. I was out of my building for a week, which is an infinitely smaller price to pay compared to what some had to pay around here. But I've talked about it on the show. Well, he reached out and he told me the story of what his family had gone through that night and in the years afterwards. And he told me, we started a foundation called the Magnolia foundation, because what we learned from that is funeral expenses, commemorative care. Like, there are so many costs associated with going through a time where the last thing you should be thinking about is money, that we decided to do something about it. And so I said, we want to be involved. I mean, we had a huge audience. We've got a huge show. We want to be involved. And so we got involved this fall. Now, the way we got involved initially was we put merchandise in the Pate State store that features our branding and the Magnolia Foundation. And then we sent portions of the proceeds to the Magnolia Foundation. But then one night, I said, maybe you don't want to buy a hat or a T shirt. Maybe you just want to give directly. And I gave you the name of the Website, which I'll do again. Themagnoliafoundation.com give. You can go there and give as much as you want to. He calls me a few weeks ago, actually, he came to our live show in Atlanta and he gave me some of the numbers for Christmas. And I just wanted to thank you guys because this is pretty mind blowing. So over Christmas, just from our audience alone, we raised over $30,000 for Magnolia Foundation. They were able to help 191 families. These are all families who have lost children recently. They were able to help 191 families with Christmas presents. And we handled 25 family funeral expenses just from what our audience gave over that short span of time. So I am eternally grateful to you guys. They are too. They don't have a microphone like I do to express it, so I'm expressing it for them. Our work is not done with Magnolia Foundation. You can go there right now if you want to. Themagnoliafoundation.com give. I just wanted to give you a little update of what we accomplished over Christmas because that's no small thing. That's actually a really big thing. So hats off to you guys and we have many, many more ventures with Magnolia foundation in the future. All right, let's move on. Take a sip of water here. You know, Jesse, for the first time in the five years we've done the show, that's a knock on wood in advance. I didn't lose my voice this year a single time. Yeah. Thank you. In the new studio here, I can now see the the staff through the glass. Hey, Bradley.
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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
Okay. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this, but I did want to address it. Percy from Shreveport, Louisiana said, I saw the front office sports article on ESPN pursuing you for a bigger deal. Before I overreact, can you tell us what this means for the show? Good question. Absolutely nothing for the show. So obviously a lot has happened for us this year and we've had a lot of involvement on espn. I think I've been on every ESPN show that exists and it's been awesome because I, like many other people my age, grew up on espn. I also grew up on the Weather Channel in Nickelodeon. But a large majority of my childhood, the soundtrack of it is SportsCenter, it's ESPM. And to be working with ESPN, that's, that's a like a dream come true from childhood. So a lot happened this year. I can't tell you a lot right now, but I think I will be able to in the not too distant future. There's a lot that's been happening for the past couple of months. A lot of big conversations when we were in Atlanta for the SEC championship game, especially some really big meetings. Really big conversations, all of it great, all of it really encouraging. But as far as the show goes, as I've told you, anytime we signed any deal around here, I've always been the first person to tell you, and I'll tell you again, we're not doing anything that affects this show at all. No deal we're signing impacts the show. So you're going to find this show same as it is, where it's always been at the times it's always been. And really the only thing that interrupts that is in the spring if we go storm chasing and we have to preempt a show every now and then. That's the kind of that right there, this little poster over my shoulder. That's the sort of thing that interrupts the show, but not any contract that we signed. But here's the deal. Anytime I've met with anyone at espn, I've shared the same sentiment. College football is the number two sport in the country. In my heart, it's the number one sport in the country by 10 miles. But the numbers back up that it is at the very worst the number two sport in the country. It should be covered that way. We do it on this show. We don't even mention any other sport. I want college football to be covered that way. And anytime anyone else aligns with that vision, those are folks that you want to talk to. And I can confidently tell you, and refreshingly tell you, the folks at ESPN right now are very much about that direction as it relates to college football and the way it's presented on espn. Of course we want to be a part of that. Of course we fully intend to be a part of that. So I don't have any announcement for you tonight. A lot of good conversations are happening there. But you know, anytime that any of this has come up in the past, longtime viewers of the show understandably freak out because they think, oh man, a good thing's going to come to an end here. Nothing's coming to an end. I'm not stupid, so I'm not letting that happen. But what we do have is we got opportunity because of the show that we have pursued. We will continue to pursue. But the other fear, which is totally unfounded, is people think like when you go work with a network, all of a sudden something changes. Well, I mean, I've been up there. I've been in New York City several times this year doing get up in person. Like I am sitting in meeting rooms at 6am there with Mike Greenberg. What a point guard, by the way, with Mike Greenberg, but with an army of producers and an army of folks that have been there a long time. We'll go up there with Will and Taylor. Anytime we go up there, they're up there as well. Do you know how many times in I don't know how many dozens of hours of ESPN programming I've been on this year that anyone got in my ear and told me to say anything or even suggested that I say anything? That'd be a goose egg. Zero. And I don't want to just blindly speak for Will Compton and Taylor Lawan, but I'm pretty sure they'd answer that question the same way. It's actually the opposite. It's actually people who know what they're doing looking at a product that works, looking at an audience like ours, understanding there must be something there. So let's work with that and not change a thing about it. That's kind of the condition that you should want to work with someone under. And that's the condition we have worked with ESPN under. And I'm eternally appreciative because I listen to you guys, they listen to you guys. And your ultimate job is to serve the audience. So that's the goal. So that's what's happening right now. A lot of good conversations, nothing official, but I'm sure I'll have something for you down the road. Academy Sports and Outdoors has something for you right now also down the road, depending on where you live, maybe a little bit further down the road. But academy.com is there no matter what. And academy.com as many of you who have watched the show for a long time know, they were with us virtually from day one. I always go like this because we lock arm in arms with Academy spring sports coming up. It could be randomly 20 degrees where you are right now, but it is January. It is a fact that February will follow that and then March after that and Spring springs in March and you hear that faint sound of baseball bat pings and you hear children laughing and that just means you better head to Academy before that. You may need soccer gear, you may need baseball, you may need softball, you may not care at all about sports, but you just want to hang out outdoors. Doesn't matter. All the gear Is there. The clothing is there. The footwear is there. The big league chew is there. Everything is there. I just listed all the essentials in life and Academy Sports and Outdoors has them all. And if you can't get there in person, academy.com is your hookup. Roll it on, Bradley. Jimmy from Dallas, ga. Which program could you see as the next potential to pull an Indiana like turnaround? We are an Indiana show now. I don't think it's duplicable, Jimmy. Now, the thing about what Indiana has done is for it to happen, it'll have to come out of nowhere. So I guess it's like a prerequisite to all of this that I would say as a response to this question, I don't see it. But the thing is, I don't know who the candidate would be. I'm going to answer the question in a second, but I think I got to kind of change the question because Indiana was dog water for decades. There wasn't even a period like in any of our lifetimes. There wasn't even a period where they had been kind of good. They came from nowhere. They just, they can't. I don't know how else to say they came from nowhere. So the closest that you would look in the Big Ten would be like Purdue or Maryland or Northwestern, maybe Rutgers would be it. But these are places that have had success before. Maybe not a ton, but they've had success at various points. Those are teams that looked at Indiana being on the schedule and said, oh, good, at least we'll have a win there. Indiana was worse than all of them. So I don't really know, like, respectfully, I don't really know that you can have another Indiana that comes out of nowhere down in the sec. It would have been Vandy, but Vandy is like the Indiana of the SEC now, a very poor man's Indiana, mind you, but same theme. Been a doormat forever. Frankly, Vandy's got a better football history. I think that's safe to say. They've had little sparks here and there. Bradley picked him to beat Alabama in 2017. So, yeah, I mean, Vandy's made some noise. Indiana's not made any noise. Just a bunch of thuds. No noise. Just thud after thud after thud. I do have one candidate, maybe in the sec, but that's not the first one that comes to mind. All right, so if I can slightly re engineer this question, let's just say, what's the next program out there that could come out of nowhere? Just crash the playoff party. Mind you, these are not predictions, but these are ones where, if it were to happen, I would look at it and I would say, yeah, I guess in retrospect, the signs were there. Maybe Michigan State is that team for me. Michigan State is that program rather for me. They just made the underrated hire of the cycle in Pat Fitzgerald, and I don't know why in the world his name wasn't involved in more coaching searches. Scratch that. I do. The reason was not nearly good enough. Pat Fitzgerald is a phenomenal football coach. Michigan or Michigan State, rather, ended up getting him. It is the steel of the hiring cycle. His pedigree is proven. There's no mystery as to whether Pat Fitzgerald can coach. There's no mystery as to whether he can cast a vision. There's no mystery. It's a new day in East Lansing, Michigan. Now, the difference if you're trying to do the whole Indiana copy paste here, he's not coming with, you know, half a dozen guys with him in the portal. He's not coming with a staff from his previous stop like Signetti did. So, no, it's not an apples to apples thing. I doubt there will ever be an apples to apples comparison to what Kurt Signetti just did. But Michigan State has Big Ten resources. Don't kid yourself. This is not some poverty school. The results have been poverty because they hadn't had the right leadership up there and they didn't make the right hires. I don't doubt they just made the right hire. Now, how long it takes Pat Fitzgerald to turn it around, that's the bigger question. Turnarounds are just capable of happening far quicker now than they were capable of happening a generation ago. So put me down for if anyone else pulls this off, if anyone else even remotely pulls off a whiff of what Indiana has done, Michigan State would be my candidate to come out of nowhere in the sec. It would be Kentucky. Let me again pause to remind everyone it's not an outright prediction, although I did the other day make a little more noise, frankly, than I thought I was going to when I made an offhanded comment. Not inappropriate unless you're a Louisville fan, but just an offhanded comment about Will Stein. And I was watching them just clean up in the portal. I mean, Kentucky's got quarterback. They went and just stole Kenny Minshew from Will Compton and Nebraska. So they got him. They've portaled in three offensive linemen. I mean, Will Stein's a very highly thought of offensive mind. For those who don't know, he was the coordinator At Oregon for a few years there, and he was the backfield for Kenny Dillingham. Maybe Kenny Dillingham is the comp here. Dillingham, never been a head coach, goes from Oregon to Arizona State. Boom, Arizona State takes off. Can will Stein be Kentucky Dilly print the shirts? I don't know. But we're asking who could come out of nowhere. I don't know. Who else in the SEC could come out of nowhere? Silverfield at Arkansas, maybe. Arkansas's had a measure of success in the past. Kentucky, not so much in football, but they're a top 30 recruiter and they lost close games last year. It's not like they've been in the wilderness. Like, there were people who were very surprised that they decided to move on from Stoop. So the other thing about the state of the SEC is there used to be a canyon between, you know, the, the upper tiers and the lower tiers, and now it's just like a really wide ditch because a lot of the highest trees have been shaved down a little bit. When you're talking about talent rosters and depth, the third one, this is more of a wild card here. So I went with one big 10, one sec. I got to be real with you. I'm going to keep an eye on Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State just went and hired Eric Morris from North Texas, and then Morris brought along his quarterback and his running back. So Messamaker and Hawkins were both top 10 portal additions. But I think the Texas Tech effect is in play here because if you know anything about the Oklahoma State situation as of late, every second Mike Gundy spent as the head coach, there was another second that some of the big money refused to cooperate financially. And a lot of conditions for them opening up their wallet were Mike Gundy leaving. So he's gone now, and they brought in Eric Morris. And when I say the Texas Tech effect, I mean it like this. Just because Texas Tech ended up being the first Big 12 program to really just go all in financially and not even apologize for it and just be upfront about it doesn't mean they're going to be the last one to do it. And this is kind of where it has to happen. The Big 12 is kind of where it has to happen. So Texas Tech's not the only one where you got really deep pocketed people who really, really love football. Oklahoma State's got that as well. They may not have a Cody Campbell, although the stadium is named after a guy that very, very much compared in the past or maybe even surpassed Cody Campbell. I don't want to get into a wallet measuring contest here. You know what I mean when I say that there's some money at Oklahoma State as well. How all in will they be on football? Because if they become all in on football, doesn't take long for them to be a headline team in a lot of these transfer portal Breaking news tweets from Pete Nakos. So I'm going to go Michigan State, Kentucky and Oklahoma State. Those would be the three right now what would you do if I told you that the Heisman odds were open for 2026 on FanDuel? Well, they are now. I have a stat on this piece of paper in front of me. I just circled it for effect. Fan. 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Josh (Host of the College Football Show)
Last question as we get out of here after the question, of course, sports Guy J from Atlanta said, seriously, is Kaylin DeBoer in over his head at Alabama? And then Jay just left. He gave me no context. He didn't really tell me why he's asking this question. But he's not alone. Jesse reliably has informed me this was the most asked question of our last mailbag offering. People just doubting Kalyn DeBoer out there. It's been a long road from that 2023 season at Washington, so I can't really tell. Are people asking this because of the Rose bowl result? Are they asking this because of some transfer portal attrition? Is it a little bit of both? All just into one crimson and white sandwich of doubt and you're just taking a big bite out of it? I think it's a little of both this best I can tell, it's a little of both. Alright, so Bama's lost some players in the portal. They recently added a couple of players in the portal. Stood to reason they were going to lose more than they added that. That is backed up by data right now. So let me just walk you through something. I don't think Kaylin DeBoer is in over his head is the first answer to that question. I think he's doing fine. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, they just want a playoff game. So I think he's doing okay. Could be a lot worse. He's doing okay there. But forget about Bama for a second. Although this will apply to Alabama. Like, what do you think works in college football? What do you think works winning games, right? How do you win games? What puts you in the best position to win games? So if you're down on Alabama right now and you're doubting Kalyn DeBoer, I want to ask you, what about them are you doubting? And if you're saying, well man, they're losing guys in the portal and they're not landing a bunch of big names in the portal, I want to ask, fair enough. What is your formula for success? How do you build a sustained winner? I'll tell you how I build mine. And I've shared this many times, so this isn't even specific to Alabama. I could just assume be talking about Georgia or Texas A and M or anyone else. My blueprint would be number one. You got to kill it in high school recruiting, which means you've got to kill it in evaluation and development, which means land the guys. Bama's had two top five classes under DeBoer. And then you've got to develop them. So get the right players, develop them and then thirdly invest in them. Meaning take most of your nil money, most of your rev share money and pay the players that you properly evaluated and you're in the process of developing to stay on your team, which is what their strategy there has been. And then the third component is you supplement via the portal. If you can go get a Ty Heywood. Go get a Ty Heywood. Noah Rogers. Hey, solid hurdle in the bowl game. Why not? Let's go get him. We just off Isaiah Horton. Let's backfill with Noah Rogers. That doesn't sound too dissimilar to what my actual blueprint would be. I think Kirby's doing something similar at Georgia. Like that's what my blueprint would be. So I'm not about to say anyone's in over their head when all they're doing is kind of how I would run it if I were running a program. But here's the note. I don't need to look at the comment section on this. I know what the replies are going to be. Josh, aren't you knocking Clemson for taking that very approach? No, I'm not. I'm knocking Clemson because they've. They've just stubbornly not even looked the portal's way until recently. Until this cycle, begrudgingly, I've knocked them for like almost in dereliction of duty fashion, not taking the Portal seriously, which Georgia and Alabama don't do. But also it doesn't matter if you're recruiting and retaining if you're not eviling and developing properly. And I think Clemson's fallen a little short there. And that's where, I don't know, it still remains to be seen with Alabama. Like, of course they love that they're signed in top five classes and of course they must believe in their guys enough to where they're investing in retaining those players. But you can't be watching Indiana do what they're doing right now. And you can't be praising Kurt Signetti for having all these veteran guys that have been through the wars with him and he's retained that roster. You can't do that. But then look at Bam and say what are they doing? Or to a degree Georgia. What are they reinvesting in their recruiting classes? Banking on developing guys through their system? Ugh. What's wrong? What's happening there? Are they in over their heads? You got to sing out of one hymnal or the other. So I don't think that about Alabama. Hey man, that doesn't mean they're going to win the national title next year. I haven't even looked at what those odds are. But I don't think it's the craziest concept in the world to try and recruit really good high school classes, hit on those guys, develop them and then invest in retaining them and then sprinkle portal additions in. I can't get up in arms about that. It may be because I'm not so much in the weeds that I'm freaking out with every move. Like I don't immerse myself in the portal. So sometimes I don't even know what's happening on that front. But I don't know. It just doesn't seem like the crisis at Alabama that some people in the comment section made it out to be. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe a little short. Maybe I'll go six and six. Maybe I'm short sighted there. Appreciate you guys. Make sure you are subscribed to the channel and if you think you are, just check and make sure and then check and make sure that mom and dad are and sister and brother are and aunt and uncle and Meemaw and Peepaw are because it doesn't cost anything and it helps us. For director Bradley, producer Jesse, I'm Josh. Take care. We'll see you Thursday night. Until then, enjoy your dinner and God bless.
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