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Jamie Lynn Sigler
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Brian
I'm Brian. I work at Unite Healthcare.
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Josh Pate
So Brian, why do you care?
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Brian
I care because I don't want to leave anybody behind. I oversee one of the biggest resource center in UnitedHealthcare. I see people walking in my office every day just like my parents. They have no idea about the healthcare. I feel like they are my uncles, aunties. I treated people like family. I'm Brian and I'm committed to care.
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Jamie Lynn Sigler
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Josh Pate
All right, we got no time to waste. It's another edition of the Pate State Extra podcast. It's just a mailbag, blah, blah, blah. You know the drill. College football and a little bit above and beyond. So we had a massive, massive blowout fight in the Pate State household no more than 24 hours ago. As you know, or well, if you watched or listened to the Sunday show, you would know I came in and and off the top of the show, I just like to share whatever's on my mind. Normally it lasts 10 seconds. And I said something along the lines of I'm excited that it's March. I'm excited that spring is right around the corner. I'm excited that especially in a town like Nashville, which is one of the most eastern cities in a time zone, we get to maximize our daylight. Because in Nashville, during the winter the sun goes down at like 4:20 in the afternoon. It sucks. It sucks. Terrible. I don't even have seasonal depression and I get depressed during that season. So I said what I thought were universally shared views, especially for people who live here. Turns out there is a Judas Judith walking amongst us, and her name is Savannah State. And so I come home, you know, ready to eat, ready to wind down, ready to watch an episode or two of whatever show we're watching and then hit the sack for the evening. And instead I. I walk in tired. You know, I've poured my heart and soul out for the college football public and I don't even have the door closed behind me before I get this. You're wrong about spring. You're wrong. You're. That's stupid. You're wrong about that. I didn't even. I just looked. I just looked because I didn't really need to ask for the next sentence. I knew it was coming in. It was. I like. I like fall and winter. You're supposed to like fall. Don't you cover college football? Don't you claim to be a college football fan? Don't you want to be the commissioner of this sport? Yes. That gets used on me in my own personal life now. Great. So I think it's a joke. I realize it's not a joke and come to find out I am married to someone who doesn't like spring, who power rates spring as her fourth out of four seasons. Vampires don't even feel that way. So I've got a lot going on in my life that I'm a little confused about. But I also would like to know very unofficially, because there's no way to take a poll on this, given it's a podcast. Do you know anybody else? Or dare I even ask, is anyone else like this? Do you seriously like spring the least out of the four seasons? I have no idea how it happens. Now I will tell you. When I was really, really young, I grew up in the Deep South. So in the Deep south, sometimes you don't really get winter. And if you were fascinated by weather like I was growing up, you're watching the Weather Channel and you see like, Detroit and Bismarck and Syracuse and all these places get snow routinely. And you're thinking to yourself as a kid, that would be awesome. That would be awesome in the same way that eating cotton candy for breakfast, lunch, and dinner would be quote, unquote, awesome to you as a kid. Kind of grew out of that. Not that I don't still get fascinated. If we're Gonna have a big snowstorm. But that's just it. It's a novelty. I live far enough south in Nashville where we get a couple, maybe three winter weather events per year, so there's still a little novelty aspect to it. But by and large, I don't get excited about cold winter the way that I used to as a kid, because it was all hypothetical in my mind. Well, with the spring thing, like, I've become a big, big fan of spring because I just. I hate a lot of darkness in the winter. I don't know, I like it warming up. I don't like to wear layers outside. All of these things, I think, should be met with 80% plus approval ratings. And instead, we're 50. 50 in my own house. So I say all that to say I'm recording in my kitchen right now and she's out of here this morning. And dare I even say, she requested to appear on this pod, but that was not happening. I'm not ready to have that conversation yet. Now, I expect I'll get some feedback on this internally and externally. And if I find out that this psychotic approach to life has some support out there, I may platform her and I may let her have a solid 60 to 90 seconds to speak her mind. But I can't believe that people are walking around existing like that. Spring is awesome. Even if there's no college football, spring is awesome. I didn't say I don't like fall. Fall is my second favorite. I just. I hate the concept of daylight savings time, or whichever one gives us the least amount of daylight and it coincides with fall, and I just hate it. So we take the good with the bad. All right, we have a loaded mailbag. And so I'm going to start with this one because this one is another hypothetical that I'm glad I never have to be met with. But I think it's very important in March, this time of year that we expand our minds a little bit. We walk through a lot of ethical and moral dilemmas. And here's one from Kyle. He lives in Chattanooga. He said, how much money to never watch another second of college football? So how much would you have to pay me to never watch another second? I'm giving it up for my entire life, the rest of my existence on this earth, I can't watch a second of college football. I can't go to a game, but I get an amount of money. Well, this is really where I know confidently there's no amount of money that you could pay me. It could be $10 billion. It could be a hundred billion dollars. You could make me the richest guy on the face of the earth. If the trade off is I have to give up what I love the most outside of faith and family, what I love the most has to be given up. Well, there's really no price tag that can be put on that. I can say that confidently. This is not one of those hypotheticals that a lot of people walk around saying knowing they'll never have to back it up. Now, I do know I'll never have to back this up, but I would back it up. There's no amount of money, no way. In fact, if you told me, hey, I'll give you a certain amount of money, but you have to just never do your show again, you'd be hard pressed to accomplish that. I'm not really even sure what the price tag would need to be for that, because this is what I love doing. What else am I going to do? I don't want to go back and work at the fabric warehouse, which is still there, by the way, but I don't want to go back and work at the fabric warehouse. So this is it for me. So I don't even know, Kyle. Yeah, Kyle, I don't even know that there's a price tag that you could offer me in exchange for never even talking about college football again, much less watching it. Am I alone on that? Surely if we have people who prefer winter over spring, then there's gotta be at least some amongst us, hopefully not many, but some amongst us that would trade college football never experiencing it again for X number of dollars. And then if there is someone out there, what is your dollar figure and how did you arrive at that dollar figure? Now, I do have to accept that I'm doing okay right now in my particular life. But there may be someone listening who has run up medical bills or you know, who is in a just a bad situation in some shape, form or fashion that makes you disproportionately in need of money at this very moment. And if someone offered you a blank check in exchange, you have to give up something you love. You know, like maybe that becomes one of the ethical forks in the road where you say, yeah, it's gonna suck, but this right now, what I'm experiencing sucks worse. So just give me the money. I'll have to do without college football. I'll still have the memories. I'll still be able to close my eyes and just imagine the rose bowl in 2005. And just imagine Vince Young. He sprints off towards that right corner. I hear Keith Jackson. Touchdown Texas. Clock winds down, triple zeros. McConaughey is thrilled. I'm thrilled. There comes the white and orange confetti burn. Orange confetti at that. We're good. Yeah. There went a whale breach, by the way. I guess I could see that, but I don't want to see it. I was not a fan of having to do that mental exercise, but I do appreciate the question. Kyle, next up. I put these in order, but they're not in order. Oh, yeah, here's a good one, which I think a lot of you are going to be able to relate to. We're all travelers, after all. Kelly just asked what is my worst college football travel story? It just happened recently. Semi recently. Last spring, I went up to Ames, Iowa, to visit Matt Campbell, to visit the staff up there. I don't even think we did any content up there. I don't even know if I announced I was up there. I just went up there, as I occasionally did when Matt was at Iowa State. I would hang out with him for the day. So the day's over. Had a. Had a great afternoon there. Watched practice, lifted. Did all the things that you would normally do. Sat with the staff for a little while. Kind of just. Just had laid out to me the. The. What's the best word to use here? The reality, the harsh reality of haves versus have nots in college football. Looking at roster, look at nil situations. Just crazy. So I did all that that day and I was going to fly from Des Moines back to Nashville through Atlanta. Weather's fine in Des Moines. Weather is okay in Atlanta. Now as you. I track this stuff all day, so, I mean, two days prior, I'm looking at forecasting, I'm looking at what could prevent me from getting back to Nashville. Cause worst case scenario, you can drive from Des Moines to Nashville. It's going to take a long time, but I've done it storm chasing before, so I've made that drive before. I've made it there and back before. So I figure looking at the timing, it's a spring system, so there's going to be one of these big fronts that comes through. It's going to have a line of storms associated with it. It's all about timing, right? So I'm looking into Moines. That line's kind of coming through Nashville. And so I think we can make it to Atlanta. I think that line is going to come through Atlanta. As I'm on the ground in Atlanta. When I'm Waiting for my flight to Nashville. So, you know, we may get delayed with a ground stop for a second or two, but I'll get back to Nashville. I'm baking in, like, an hour delay. I'll get back to Nashville. All right, so we take off. Remember, we're taking off from Des Moines. There's a big line of storms between us and Atlanta, so we have to go down south around the line. So the line that you would normally take from Des Moines to Atlanta is just kind of fly over Nashville, which is kind of aggravating when Nashville is your final destination. But I digress. We fly all the way around Birmingham. We fly around Montgomery, actually fly around Columbus, my hometown. And then we're coming up to Atlanta from the south, which took longer than a normal flight would. Well, by that time, the line is close enough to Atlanta, where we can't land in Atlanta. So I have bought the wi. Actually, I have WI Fi. Whatever status I need on Delta, I have it. So I have the WI Fi. It's working good. It's the only thing that worked on this night for me. It's working good. We are circling Atlanta, and I'm looking at the radar, and I understand what's coming, and I understand there's a really solid outflow boundary on this line of storms that's coming through. So concept of outflow boundaries are fascinating. Really simple to understand. If you were to take a giant bucket of water in your hands right now and turn the bucket of water upside down and watch it spill all over the floor, what does it do? It hits the ground, but then what does the water do? It has nowhere else to go. So it goes from going north to south to. Then all of a sudden, it has to spread out because it can't go into the ground. It's a wood floor. It can't go into the ground. Well, air does the same thing. When there's a sudden burst, there's a sudden shaft of rain, heavy rain, all at once that comes down out of a thunderstorm cloud. It pulls air to the ground with it. Well, when the raindrops hit the ground, they just absorb into the ground. When the air hits the ground, the air can't go into the ground. So the air has to then go outward, which is why a lot of times when there's a storm in the distance, you feel breezes kicking up. That's an outflow boundary. Many cases. Well, with thunderstorms, the outflow boundaries are very pronounced. And with lines of storms, they're especially very pronounced. Well, I know how to look at that on radar? There's certain indications you can see on radar that wow, there's a solid outflow boundary associated with this. So they think we're going to land in Atlanta. I know the outflow boundary is already pretty much into Atlanta. There's no way they're going to land in this thing. Sure enough, we get the announcement we can't land in Atlanta. So then they divert us south. Guess where they're going to land us? They're going to land us in Columbus, Georgia. Columbus is not a big airport. I grew up in Columbus. Out of all the airports in this country that we could get diverted to, we get diverted to Columbus Metropolitan Airport. Wedo. Amazing. My hometown spent seven figures to come up with that Logan or slogan. We do amazing. And we don't. At least we didn't on that night. So we are on approach into Columbus, but we circled Columbus for a long time because they were having to divert a lot of aircraft down there. We finally get the go ahead and I am looking in this same outflow boundary that has come through Atlanta is all the way down through Harris county, approaching Columbus. And we're approaching from the west. So we are flying in roughly on a line that goes kind of from Montgomery into Phoenix City into Columbus. We are flying west to east. This line is moving north to south. Basically it will hit the side of our plane. We're on final approach into Atlanta. I have flown I don't know how many hundred times now. I am very used to flying. I'm very used to turbulence. I'm very used to all this. We are less than 1,000ft off the ground. Most insane turbulence I've ever felt in my life. This is not a regional jet, by the way. I think we're on a 737. So it's a good sized jet. We are on final approach, landing gear has dropped like they're ready to touch down. And I'm telling you, I have been in pretty moderate turbulence before. I've been in severe turbulence maybe once or twice. This was the most severe turbulence I've ever felt. And they try and land the plane. There's just no way. It pure white knuckles everywhere. A ton of people were crying, a ton of people were screaming. I legit thought this actually could be it, this could be the one. Because I know what's happening to our plane. I know this is not going to die down as we get closer to the surface, if anything is going to kick up worse and. And so they pull the nose up probably less than 500ft off the ground. They pull the nose up and they have to abort. Well, before they were gonna land us in Columbus, the dude had announced on the PA system, hey, we can only, we can only circle Columbus a few more times. It's a fuel situation. So if they're not gonna let us land in Atlanta, we're gonna have to land it in Columbus. Well, then we try and land in Columbus and then we have to abort the landing last second. At which point I think, oh cool, we're still alive. What's the fuel situation? So then we have to fly down to Dothan, Alabama. This is the middle of the night. Dothan's airport is smaller than Columbus's. They land us in Dothan safe and sound. Pilot and co pilot come out of the cockpit and leave immediately. The flight attendant, I kid you not, this is Delta now. This is, this is not some airline you've never heard of. Flight attendant gets on the PA and says, I have no update for you. The pilot and co pilot just left. This is like a movie scene. But this really happened to me last spring and I had gotten a sense that that crew was probably gonna time out and that we were probably gonna get stuck in Dothan. So what I did as soon as we got on the ground is I booked a rental car for the next day and I booked a hotel room for that night and I booked an Uber as quickly as I could because Dothan is kind of sort of in the middle of nowhere and the airport is really in the middle of nowhere. In Dothan, the Uber wait was 35 minutes. That's only because I got to it first. So they completely abandoned an entire plane full of people on the tarmac because there is no gate for a plane to pull up to in Dothan. So you just kind of get out on the tarmac. An entire 737 DE boards on the tarmac. They walk into an airport that doesn't look like it's been inhabited since the Clinton administration. And that's it. You guys are on your own rebook for tomorrow maybe. So my Uber pulls up, takes about half an hour. I get in. I still don't know to this day what happened to the rest of that plane full of people. I then stay overnight in Dothan, Alabama and then I, I didn't want to risk flying back the next day because we were going to have to fly through Atlanta again. So I just rented a car, went over to Hertz. They technically weren't supposed to rent one way cars from that location in Dothan, our guys behind the counter actually recognized me. They knew of the show, they hooked me up. I will be forever grateful to the Hertz employees down there in Dothan for this. Probably need to send him a chalice of supremacy. And I had to drive all the way from Dothan, which is very close to Florida. I had to drive all the way from Dothan, Alabama back to Nashville on the day of a show. That was why I had to get back. And that was not fun. But I keep thinking back to what the alternative would be and that is we, we just suffer a different fate in Columbus. So that was a not so fun time. Not so fun time. Not quite like Scott Van Pelt in Atlanta after the national championship game where I just have a breakdown physically and mentally right there with someone recording me. Not quite that bad, but close.
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Brian
I'm Brian, I work at Udadah Healthcare.
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Jamie Lynn Sigler
So Brian, why do you care?
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Brian
I care because I don't want to leave anybody behind. I oversee one of the biggest resource centers in United Healthcare. I see people walking in my office every day just like my parents. They have no idea about the health care. I feel like they are my uncles, aunties. I treated people like family. I'm Brian and I'm committed to care.
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Josh Pate
Hello. Hello.
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Malcolm Gladwell
I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of the podcast Smart Talks with IBM. I recently sat down with IBM's chairman and CEO Arvind Krishna and I asked him, how can companies use AI to its fullest potential to create smarter business?
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IBM CEO Arvind Krishna
My one advice to them, pick areas you can scale. Don't pick the shiny little toys on the side. For example, if anybody has more than 10% of what they had for customer service 10 years ago, they're already five years behind. If anybody is not using AI to make their developers who write software 30% more productive today with the goal of being 70% more productive. Yeah, so we are not asking our clients to be the first experiment on it. We say you can leverage what we did. We are happy to bring out all our learnings, including what needs to change in the process. Because the biggest change is not technology, is getting people to accept that there's a different way to do things.
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Malcolm Gladwell
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Josh Pate
Next up oh boy, this one could be its own podcast. A lot of you sent me this. We'll go with Murray. No, Mike's Mike probably said it better. Mike said the allegations of SEC and Big Ten homerism are really shining through. Why aren't you speaking out more about the fight between the Big Two and everybody else right now? I am. I want all the details, but I kind of am. I kind of feel the same way you do. You're not calling me an SEC homer on this. You're not calling me a Big Ten homer on this. So what's happening right now? It's kind of boring, but if you just look at the cloud tops instead of trying to dive deep, it's pretty fascinating. So right now the SEC and the Big Ten have a stranglehold financially and otherwise on the college football landscape. Right? Everybody knows that then over the past year or so there have been these growing movements to do things like pooling all the media rights. And what that would do in theory is make everybody a lot more money, including the SEC in the Big Ten. But it would really serve to make the leagues downstream of the Big Two a lot more money. And it would serve to make enough money where you could fund the non revenue generating sports, the Olympic sports, women's sports, the ones that right now are threatening to be cut. And the SEC and the Big Ten are pushing back on that saying, oh, that's well intentioned, but it won't actually work. And they're not really giving good reasons why it wouldn't work. And here's what it reeks of. I'm keeping an open mind on this because it could very well be that the SEC and the Big Ten are right. What I'm saying is I haven't heard reason enough to disprove the theory that pooling media rights would set us on a better course than we are right now. And they keep giving these really, really intellectually dishonest counterpoints. Now, that doesn't necessarily disprove their stance. What it could mean is they have the right point. They're providing the wrong logic behind the point. But more times than not, if someone's providing faulty logic, it's because they don't have sound logic to back up their point, because their point doesn't really have a leg to stand on. They're just hoping you don't realize it. Right now, I lean towards that being the case with what the SEC and the Big Ten are saying. And so if you were to ask me, okay, Josh, well, where do you think their head's really at? I think their head is in a place where they realize they are the co kings of this nation right now and they don't want to give that up. That's not crazy. I don't think if the Big 12 and the ACC were in a similar position, they'd want to give their power up. So it's not even an SEC or Big Ten specific problem. It's a power issue. It's as old as time. And that's why in college football, I would love for there to be centralized authority. And then a lot of people want to make political parallels to this. Like, oh, if you believe this about college sports, that must mean you believe this about politics. No, not at all. Oh, if you believe this about the economics of college football, that must mean you're a so and so economically. No, it doesn't. All it means is, for my entire life, I've looked at college football sort of like a nature preserve. I've looked at college football as having these imaginary fences around it. And I have viewed college football as different than everything outside the fence. Just like a nature preserve. I have used this metaphor or analogy, I guess, many times in Nashville, we have certain places where they are nature preserves, which literally means if you're driving along, there's a huge condo high rise and, oh, there's a big industrial complex. All of a sudden well, there are all these trees and animals. Well, how can that be? Well, it's a nature preserve. That's how it can be. Well, how did that come to be? Well, it's because a civil society here, living in this part of the country, decided that while we do want to make progress here, here and here, this particular place, we want to maintain the sanctity of. So we want to keep this area because everyone has agreed. They love the wildlife, they love the vegetation, they like walking around the lake. So we're going to set aside this specific place and we're going to govern it with different laws than we do the rest of the city. And everyone's just kind of okay with it. Well, in a sporting sense, that's how I've always viewed college football. Anybody who has passed a high school economics course understands that if you allow pure free market principles to run rampant in college football, college football implodes in on itself as we know it. Now, the SEC wouldn't implode, the Big Ten wouldn't implode. But you see what's happened to the PAC 12, partly due to their own mismanagement, but partly due to free market principles working their way into my nature preserve here in college football, we had a gate that swung open and some stuff worked its way in that I would prefer not work its way in. So right now, when I look at it, and I would love to have centralized authority and I would love to have a commissioner's office, whether it's me or someone else, that really gets final say on all this. That's not because in real life, I think we should have a king of the United States. It's because I think college athletics should operate differently than the country should, because I think it has to have special provisions to maintain the best version of itself. And in college football terms, that means I don't want to have to count on Greg Sankey and the SEC or Tony Petiti in the Big Ten, to quote, unquote, do the right thing, because that's not their job. And for all of the demonization that happens for those guys, I don't do that because I think most people who had their jobs, if they did, would end up making the same decisions because it gets really nuanced and layered and complex and complicated. And sometimes you have what are called level 10 decisions where there really is no right and wrong. There's a. There's a bad one and then there's a worse one. That's it. That's the end. So when you have university Presidents breathing down your neck. When you have investors, when you have all these nameless, faceless people to you that those guys really answer to, you kind of are in a situation, I think the fridge is going off behind me. You're kind of in a situation where given the information at your hand, you have to do something that you know, you as a fan would not have wanted to do. So my, my theory is I would just love a world where it's taken out of their hands entirely. But right now, the more and more by the day that the messaging from Smash Capital or the messaging from the Save College Sports Group goes public and it gets articulated properly, the more that happens, the worse off. From a perception standpoint, the SEC and the Big Ten are, and I told you that weeks ago, the big problem here has been messaging. No one has garnered a super majority of public support on this because no one has articulated their message properly. They just keep meeting in back rooms or they keep going to Washington and meeting with congressmen and women or lobbyists. And all the while, 98% of us are just sitting out here living our lives. And it's, it's kind of like anything else that's politics. You listen to it, but it's over there in its own silo. You're not gonna let it bother you in your day to day life. And that's kind of how college football has been for a little while. But I'm not holding the water for the SEC or the Big Ten on this. Frankly, a lot of the proposals on the other side of the fence appeal to me more. And I've spoken about it not from a revenue standpoint. I've spoken about it purely from a fan's standpoint. I just love the fact that if you pulled media rights, if you had a college football TV deal, I love what it would do for the consumer. I don't care about the revenue because I'm not getting the revenue, nor are you, nor will most of us ever see a dime of it. But what it could do is it could lead to a lot more attractive scheduling apparatus and it could lead to a lot more attractive broadcast apparatus. Meaning if you're the University of Florida right now, you know every one of your games essentially is going to be carried by the ESPN family of networks. There's nothing wrong with that. It's top tier broadcast quality. But in, in the interest of diversity of programming, wouldn't it be a little more interesting for you to maybe occasionally play on CBS or then play on Fox or then play on NBC? The way that you would if you were a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. You know, you're going to see your team play on a number of different networks, you're going to get exposed to a number of different broadcast teams, you're going to get exposed to a number of different broadcast windows. But then more importantly, on the whole, what that does is it takes Fox as an example and it deincentivizes Fox from just pumping the Big Ten or it deincentivizes ESPN from just pumping the sec. These are the most popular allegations that are thrown at networks right now. And the allegations have a little bit of truth to them, understandably so, because those networks have deals with conferences, they don't have portions of the overall college football deal, they have deals with conferences. So of course it's in their best interest, it's in their best vested financial interest to promote the conferences that they have deals with. I just hate that that's the setup we have right now. So from a viewer standpoint, from a fan standpoint, the reason I love the idea of pooling media rights above and beyond how much more money it would make them and above and beyond what it would do for women's sports, Olympic sports, even if you wiped all that out, I just love it on the surface, selfishly, because of what it would do for me. Because then at the end of the day, every one of those networks, the talent at those networks, the shows on those networks, they are motivated and incentivized to cover college football as a whole instead of covering a conference. That's how the NFL does it. And in this case, the NFL, I think, is dead on the money. Next up, this was Frankie, friend of the program. How jacked are you for storm chasing this season? I couldn't be more jacked if my life depended on it. I used to take pre workout called Jack 3D. This is like Jack 16D. I'm ready. I'm ready. I've got my eye on a little complex setting up in Oklahoma over the next couple of days. But it's March. This is go time. April is really go time. The biggest challenge in my life right now is scheduling the spring speaker series. Locked in two more head coaches yesterday, by the way, but scheduling the spring speaker series around storm chasing. And I just let a few coaches know I need to talk with you as early in the morning as I can because I don't know what's going to happen on April 6th. As an example, there could be a major outbreak going on on April 6th. And worst case scenario is like you Remember last year, one of the stupidest moments in my life. One of the most, what do you call it? Like, McAfee talks about this all the time. Oh man, we live the stupidest life imaginable. Well, that's code for him saying, I can't believe we get to do this. Well, I had one of those moments last year where we went down to Florida State. Can't remember the date. We went down to Florida State and did a sit down with Mike Norvell that morning in Tallahassee and we expected a big tornado outbreak that day. Some of you probably remember this. And I was really obnoxious about it and I apologize, but I couldn't get over the fact that we were doing this. So the folks at airstar, which is a company that we partner with from time to time, if we need to charter air service, airstar sends us a plane down to Tallahassee. I do the sit down with Mike, we're done by, let's say 10 or 10:30. We get on a plane and they fly us straight to Memphis and we're in Memphis by noon. We storm chase the rest of the day. And I figured, first off, again, let me reiterate, it is completely and utterly insane we get to do this. Secondly, I got a great gif out of it that I use from time to time. Thirdly, it was a fair amount of turbulence landing in Memphis. Fourthly, I figured that's got to be the blueprint moving forward. If we get ourselves in a situation where we have a sit down scheduled, I'm not going to call sarcasm from a hotel room in Austin morning of and say, hey, Steve, Steve. Yes, Josh? Look, the sit down that we've had on your calendar for a month and a half. Can't do it today, bud. Let's push that. I've got a fly to Wichita to storm chase. I just don't think it goes over well. But what we can do is sit down with Sark at 8:30 in the morning and then be in Wichita by 11:45. We can do that. So I don't spend money on much of anything. I wear the same four shirts. I work out at the same gym that I've always worked out at. So we, we've got one or two things that if worse comes to worse, we're going to spend some pate state coin on and that's one of them. If we need to knock out two birds with one stone, we will do it. But yeah, I'm jack for storm chasing. We could have some surprises this Spring, by the way, in terms of who joins us on the road, storm chasing. Just stay tuned, I would say just stay tuned for that. Uh, we have an allegation here. A lot of allegations. I address them all. I'm not gonna duck. Not gonna duck it. Where was this? Yeah, so I don't think this is true. All right, let me just read it. Okay, so Sean accused me of overhyping LSU in Texas again, in his words. And that was it. And then he just left. He didn't provide any context. So let's recap what I have said about LSU in Texas so far. Mind you, it is March 4th as I'm recording this. What I have said about LSU in Texas so far this year is Sark needs to win this year. There's a lot of competitive pressure on him. Duh, there is every year. But it's kind of an all in year for Texas. They're going to be ranked highly. I will rank them highly. Arch is back. They killed it in the portal. Is anything I've said so far untrue? Anybody, I think who pays attention to Texas would agree with this. Even if you think they're going to go 8 and 4, you at least agree with what I just said. You your follow up would be and they're going to crash and burn. But nothing I've said about them is untrue so far. Then about lsu. All I did about LSU is I said they crushed it in the portal too. And they went and got a lot of high level guys and then they got some second tier guys that I think were former big names in recruiting but hadn't panned out largely due to injuries so far. Eugene Wilson from Florida is a perfect example. Blockton from Auburn's a good example. But if they are healthy, then Lane may have killed it on the second tier of guys. And then he got a third tier of guys from Nicholls State and North Carolina Central and a lot of places that are way off the radar. But then again, Trinidad Chambliss at Ferris State was very much off the radar last year. So there are three different, you know, sort of bingo or slot machine levers that he pulled. One of them I'm pretty sure will come up triple sevens. But what if either of the other two do? And then I just said if you combine that with getting Sam Levitt in at quarterback and Lane's ability, his proven ability to not require a roster full of multi year starters to win because he didn't have that at Ole Miss, well, might they need to be considered a Playoff contender. That's what I've said so far about LSU in Texas. I don't think any of that's crazy. And Sean did not provide me with the evidence of how I've hyped LSU in Texas in the past. Now with lsu. Yeah, this, this time last year, we were looking at a situation where Brian Kelly had made some moves and they were. They were going to be ranked highly and they had Garrett Nussmeier returning at quarterback, and it was a situation where there wasn't a lot of proven production returning at quarterback in the sec. So certainly that set up LSU to succeed, had had a good roster. Then they opened the season with a win at Clemson, and it kind of felt sort of like they may be off to the races and they just weren't and it crashed. But when I look back on that, I don't look back on that any differently than the Penn State or the Clemson thing. Sometimes you rank a team highly and you look back and there were reasons that you should have seen. There were red flags you should have seen. I just think those were three examples of teams that were ranked properly, given what we knew about them in the spring and summer, which is all you have to go on. You rank them as best you can. Some teams fulfill on the expectation, some don't. There will never be a year where you go 10 for 10 on your preseason top 10. Someone's going to finish unranked in there. In some extreme cases, maybe two or three of them. That doesn't mean that there were warning signs. It just means it didn't work out. I'll put it another way. Let's say that I have in my pocket right now 10 coins. Eight of them are quarters, two of them are pennies. I'm going to reach my hand in my pocket, I'm going to grab the first coin I touch. I'm going to pull it out. I want you to guess what it is. Eight quarters and two pennies in there. I'm only pulling out one. What's in my pocket? What am I going to pull out? You got one shot. What are you guessing? You're guessing a quarter. That gives you what, an 80% chance of being right? Did you make the right decision? You already know before I pull the coin out, whether you made the right decision or not. What happens if I pull out a penny you lost? Does that mean you made the wrong decision, though? No. You used the information at hand to put yourself in the most advantaged position you can be. You were 80, 20 that you were going to hit two times out of 10, that still means you don't hit. And I look at picking these teams the same way. Penn State last year or lsu, Texas this year. These teams are, they're the quarter in that scenario. And so I'm going to bet on the quarter more times than not. I'm going to hit like more times than not. If you play this upcoming season out, Texas is a playoff team. More times than not. If you play last season out, I think that Penn State is a playoff team. But when you change the outcome of that Oregon game instead of them, instead of Penn State winning that thing in overtime, Oregon wins that in overtime, that is, that is like a 90 degree angle shift in your season. And if you ever have stood at home plate on a baseball field and you looked at the foul lines going different directions, if you walk two steps, there's not a lot of distance between those foul lines. But walk 300ft and then look where the other foul line is. It's often another universe, it's often another zip code. That's kind of the divergent trajectories that a season can take. It's like a huge stone in the middle of a stream. It just diverts that water's path. And that's kind of the way outcomes are. This is not baseball. You don't get 162 outcomes, therefore rendering one individual game pretty meaningless. This is football. We play 12 of them. And when Penn State played that Oregon game and it went the way it went mad, that was kind of it. I certainly don't believe they would have lost the UCLA and Northwestern games had they won the Oregon game. So anyway, I'm not hyping Texas and LSU any more than they should be. It's March. We haven't even done a deep dive on any of them yet. I just feel like they're in a good position right now.
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Brian
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Hello.
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Josh Pate
Hello.
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oh boy. So yeah, there it is. We had a question about haters. This might as well have been from my mom. This is from Jessica. She was. She was saying, how do you handle all the negativity and haters in your line of work? And the answer is by ignoring them largely. It's not really the way it appears like you Remember, we did the Trump interview a couple of weeks ago, and we got a. We got some positive feedback, we got some negative feedback. People took issue with me saying, hey, most of the negative feedback is from bot accounts. It was. It was 1000%, mostly from bot accounts. That didn't mean all of the negative feedback was from bot accounts. So you got to filter that stuff out as best you can. And we're in a pretty good position to filter it out. So what you do is you filter it. I would say, at least conservatively, 90% of the negativity we got was bot accounts. But that means 10% was legit. So then out of the 10%, okay, what part of that 10% is our audience, and what part of it is people who swooped in to say something that would never otherwise watch the show? So then you filter that out, and whatever you're left with is legitimate feedback from your audience. I listened to all that, and some of you know that because some of you I personally corresponded with. So you kind of get misquoted. And I knew this was coming. Like, a lot of people misquoted me as saying any negative feedback I got about us doing that interview was from a bot account. Well, that's not what I said, because that would be stupid. Most of it was. And then people who understood me correctly pushed back and said, no, you can't possibly know that. No, I can. I can, because I saw all the feedback. You didn't see all the feedback, so how could you know which percentage I'm right and wrong about when you didn't even see the volume and totality of the feedback? And I did. So anyway, Jessica, to get back to the point, the feedback that we got from members of our audience, that was legitimate on that topic, it wasn't hate. Very few of them were hateful. It was a bunch of, hey, you always said that this was about college football. This was a politics free platform. I'm disappointed in this or that. And I listened to that. And we'll adjust the strategy moving forward for that, because it really doesn't matter how I feel about stuff. If a big enough chunk of our audience feels a certain way, it's your show, it's not my show. So I've got to stack it that way. But it wasn't hate. It wasn't hate at all. Very rarely do real people who are in our audience act hateful. We don't deal with that. There's toxicity on the Internet, but there's that all the time, no matter what you do. And in person. When we have interactions in person, I'm on the road every year. When we have interactions in person, they're 99% positive. So I think a lot of times people in public positions, like front facing positions, they talk about that stuff because they want you to feel sorry for them. And I'm not saying that there's no one out there that doesn't experience it. That was like a triple negative. Yes. Some people experience legitimate hate, some people experience legitimate threats and all that. That's a different world. I just mean I know for a fact a lot of people in my space spout off at the mouth about, oh, how toxic it is and how mentally taxing it is. Well, don't pay attention to it would be my advice. Don't pay attention to it. You'd be shocked at how therapeutic it is to just make what other people think about you none of your business. And that's the best I can do. That's the best advice I can give out this morning. Jessica, I hope it made you feel better. It did make me feel better. Tim hit us up. Tim said, personally, Personally, I hate Nil. Do you like it or not? If you don't like it, what do you think is the worst thing about it? Cause to me it's an entire stack of pancakes that taste awful. Well, there you go. Tim has given us his take on Nil. Look, I'm like most people, I'm like most people who are more traditional minded, who love college football, let's say, and that is we look at it. Most of us never said we don't want those kids making a dime. Most of us never said that. Most of us looked at it and said, yeah, they deserve money. Can we accomplish that in a way that keeps the sport structured? And the answer so far has been nope. So I guess that's the part, Tim, that I dislike the most. But if you really want me to drill down on it, rivalries. What it's done to rivalries is just disgusting to me. I look at a guy who once played for Michigan, who transfers to Ohio State, I look at a guy who once played for Alabama, who transfers to Auburn, Florida State, Florida, whatever. And I think to myself, there should be laws against that, but there really shouldn't need to be laws against it. It should just be ingrained in you. That's a no, no. No one needs to tell me if I play for Ohio State that it's a no, no to transfer to Michigan. It's just this unspoken but understood moral contract that you should take in exchange for playing the sport. But then here's the worst kind of person. The worst kind of person is the one that comes in and you say, man, no one should ever transfer from Ohio State to Michigan. There's a guy who comes in and says, well, you can't. You can't do that. You can't restrict those players movements. Hey, dude, I never said that they shouldn't be legally allowed to. Or if I did, I was joking. I said it should be understood. It's no different than if I'm at Publix. I don't really need a law to tell me not to leave my buggy in the middle of the parking lot. I'm just supposed to know it. Like, there are certain parts of the societal fabric or parts of the sporting societal fabric that are supposed to be understood. But when you enter this equation where the bedrock principles of college football are devalued and you've got people in your ear telling you the only thing that matters is how much the bottom line is for you in a given year, how much you can earn in a given year. And that matters well above and beyond anything else, then you're going to have that kind of approach. And again, I don't want to lay it in the lap of a kid solely because I haven't been in that position. So I've never been 19 years old, having balled out my freshman year at Clemson, only for South Carolina to come along and say, we'll give you $1.2 million to transfer here. Mind you, you grew up on food stamps. You had no idea where your next meal was coming from when you were growing up. Your family's counting on you to financially provide for them. We're going to pay you triple what Clemson will pay you if you transfer here. Well, that becomes a whole different world, doesn't it? That becomes a whole different, as Meemaw would say, a whole different kettle of fish. I get all that, but that's an individual hypothetical case well within the old overall, like, grand scheme of what it is. So it doesn't change the fact that I hate it. Even if there are individual circumstances like that. What I would love is for there to exist a world where everybody kind of knows they're getting a big enough chunk of revenue share, especially if you're playing for a major conference team, that no one's leaving out of pure life necessity. No one's leaving for survival. Okay? At that point, you're leaving because you're choosing to leave. And I don't know that we can ever get back to it. I happen to think we can. I happen to think that there are mechanisms and levers that you can pull in college football to sort of right the ship a little bit, and it will again become really taboo for that concept to exist. But I just hate that. I hate that it's. It hasn't diminished or it hasn't erased the value of a rivalry. It has muted it just a little bit. When you have guys who just transfer from one side to another or even this. I'll give you one. One worse, I guess not. One better one. Even worse than that is when there's a guy who plays a pivotal role in, like, big moments of a season for you, maybe it was in a rivalry game, but plays big moments, an instrumental part of a season, and then he transfers. Like, how are you supposed to look back on that? I think about, man, when was this? What was the year? It was the fourth and 31 play. I think it was Isaiah Bond, maybe that Milroe threw the ball to. It was 4th and 31. I know where I was. I was in Detroit's airport watching this. Whoever caught the ball, like Jacore Brooks or Isaiah Bond, whoever that was, he transferred right after the season. So you look back on this iconic moment in Alabama football history, and it kind of gets saturated, because the guy who caught the ball, you know, in a former generation, in a former life, you would look at that and he would be like a legend, and, oh, he'll never have to buy a meal in Tuscaloosa again. Crimson Tide for life. He wasn't even Crimson Tide. A month later, he transferred to Texas. And so I just. I hate that concept, man. I get why it happens. I get why it exists. I get what it probably takes for it not to exist. I don't have the power to snap my fingers and make that happen, but I just hate the cumulative impact that the Nil Portal era has had on that part of the fabric. The sanctity of tradition, the sanctity of rivalries. And I just always thought to myself, let's say I go and I enroll at Penn State, and maybe I'm a little homesick to start off with, and maybe I'm thinking, oh, maybe I'll transfer out. But I've always thought to myself, once I get in, especially once I become an integral part of this team and doubly, especially if I make some impact plays to help this team in some big games, I'm in now. I'm in because I like to think that I would view it in terms of legacy. And I'm thinking 20 years from now, if I just made this big play here, but then I just transferred, how are they going to remember me? There is a lot of equity that's built by creating a legacy in one uniform, but I know no one's thinking like that now. I certainly know agents aren't in their clients ear telling them that agents aren't making a whole lot of money off legacy. Agents are making money on you getting a 40% raise by transferring. I get all that. Everyone's looking out for themselves right now. I get all that. That doesn't mean I have to like it. It does mean that we're done with this though. Please make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel, which this is not on. And please make sure that you're following in the podcast feed wherever you get your pods, which is a sentence I always hate because everyone says it. But wherever you're listening now is where you get your podcast. So I appreciate you guys so much. We'll be back regular show Thursday night. Until then, appreciate everyone. Take care. Have a great rest of your day and God bless.
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